1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Robert Lammin. This is The Monster Fact, 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: a short form series from Stuff to Blow Your Mind, 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: focusing on mythical creatures, ideas, and monsters in time. This week, 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm devoting the episode to a kind of mini review 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: of the latest film in the alien franchise, Alien Romulus, 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: directed by Fede Alvarez. First and foremost, I had a 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: great time in the theater with Alien Romulus. I'd been 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: pregaming for months, obviously with fresh viewings of my favorite 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: alien films, several sessions of the Alien RPG and several 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: alien related episodes of The Monster Fact and Weird House 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: Cinema here in the Stuff to Blow your Mind podcast feed. 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: So I was geared up for it. And there's always 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: a certain amount of sunk cost with these films as well, 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: an opening weekend tick and a collector's mug will set 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: you back a pretty penny, so I have no regrets, 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: but hey, that's how sunk cost works. So I went 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: into the theater with a great deal of optimism, but 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: not without some caution. While Ridley Scott's producer credit was 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: reassuring I mostly know Fede Alvarez for the twenty thirteen 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Evil Dead gore Fest, which I enjoyed, and twenty sixteen's 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: Don't Breathe, which I just have no interest in seeing. 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: Not perhaps my brand of horror, but I respect those 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: who dig it. One of my friends expressed hesitation in 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: seeing the film, giving Alvarez's tendency for, in their words, 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: a sort of meanness perhaps and maybe a little bit 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: of suffering beyond the point of their comfort level. So granted, 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: there's always suffering in an alien film, and perhaps meanness 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: as well, but it's a careful balancing act. So I 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: too was kind of unsure about where things were going 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: to land on that point. My other point of caution 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: concerned the Alien universe at large. I really enjoyed all 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: six previous films, you know, some more than others, obviously, 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: but I felt like each of them contributed nicely to 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: an ever expanding fictional universe. Alien and the sequel Aliens 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: set the tone, and I love the way Prometheus and 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Covenant expanded the lore and confronted philosophical ramifications of the setting. 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: So I feared a narrowing of the Alien universe, in 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: which previous entries would be ignored or minimalized, or some 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: other move might be taken to unbalance the current state 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: of things, upsetting the lore of the Alien RPG and 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: other bits of extended media. Luckily, most of my concerns 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: proved completely unwarranted. To its great credit, Alien Romulus is 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: a film that embraces aspects of the entire Alien cinematic universe, 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: minimizing nothing, while also including nods to the excellent video 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: game Alien Isolation and proving very faithful to the Alien RPG. 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: In fact, as I've seen others point out online, the 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: movie could easily be a cinematic campaign for Free League's 49 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: xenomorph infested role playing game. The film does a great 50 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: job exploring the harsh life of interplanetary colonists, as well 51 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: as the machinations of the whalan Utawni Corporation. It lovingly 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: brings face huggers, chest bursters, and adult xenomorphs to life, 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: and also shows us a few things that we hadn't 54 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: seen before. It gives us some interesting android drama, and 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: above all else, delivers a thoroughly satisfying, pulse pounding sci 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: fi horror ride. I would say it kept me on 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: the edge of my seat, but the theater chair was 58 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: a recliner. The performances were all solid, with Kaylee Spainey's 59 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Rain and David Johnson's Andy as the standouts. Now two 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: major points of frequent criticism that I should comment on. 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: First of all, yes, there are a lot of callbacks 62 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: in the dialogue to previous Alien films, in addition to 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: visual and musical cues. Many of these are rather pleasant 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: examples of mild fan service. I quite enjoyed hearing entry 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: of the Gods into Valhalla as our characters entered the 66 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: gloomy space station, but the instances do build up to 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: a point that may exceed your personal tolerance. There is 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: also the film's use of the android character Rook created 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: in the likeness of the late Ian Holme, who lived 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty one through twenty twenty, who of course played 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: the android Ash in the original Alien. So much work 72 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: clearly went into recreating this performance, and I'm to understand 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: it was done with his family's blessings, But at the 74 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: end of the day, I would have much preferred a 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: live actor in the role, someone who could have truly 76 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: brought the part to life in a unique way, while 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: also honoring the synth performances that came before. I mean, 78 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: I can easily think of numerous examples of living actors 79 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: who could have really sunk their teeth into this role, 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: and I'd be talking about it right now. Is one 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: of the highlights of the film. As it is. The 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: effects provide us with a synthetic rendering of Ian Home, 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: which is uncanny, much in the same way that the 84 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: digital Peter Cushing from Rogue One was uncanny and missed 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: the mark. Even allowing that Rook is a synthetic person 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: and a glitchy, damaged one at that it just never 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: felt right, and it just also felt largely unnecessary. Now, 88 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: if I had more time, I might discuss that there's 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: at least one character in the film whose sole purpose 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: seems to be prolonged suffering and death. I'm not sure 91 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: how I ultimately feel about her portrayal. I may have 92 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: to come back to that later in my own thoughts, 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: but I do want to touch on the Offspring, a 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: creature we encounter in the film's climax, a product of 95 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: Waylan Newtawni bioengineered black goo and Zeno corrupted human pregnancy. 96 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: The spirit of the choice is very much in keeping 97 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: with various ideas explored in the Alien RPG, and is 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: in many ways a new take on the Newborn creature 99 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: from Alien Resurrection, and it's certainly nasty and terrifying. However, 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: much like the Newborn, I had reservations about the design. 101 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: I loved its creepiness and the inclusion of engineer genetic notes, 102 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: also felt it to be a tad anticlimactic after so 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: much absolutely on point classic hr gig or xenomorphaction. My 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: thoughts on this might change that sometimes do, but I 105 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: would have personally preferred an alternate design approach. I don't know, 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: maybe it could have been tweaked one way or another. Finally, 107 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: we have to discuss the law of the conservation of mass. 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: As I discussed in my house stuffworks dot com article 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: how the Alien xenomorph Works back in twenty twelve. This 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: has always been a potential problem in xenomorphiology as far 111 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: back as the original Alien film. We see the chest 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: burster grow to enormous size in no time, but cut 113 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: script material and extended universe insights always allowed that perhaps 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: the creature ates something to put on that mass, be 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: it in Nostromo food stores, or chunks of the ship, 116 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: something to allow for the fact that if a creature 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: is to take on x amount of mass, it needs 118 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: to absorb or convert x amount of mass or energy. Now, 119 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: I haven't rewatched every alien movie recently, most of them, 120 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: but there are a few I haven't gone back to. 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: I feel like we always had at least a little 122 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: more wiggle room on this issue. Fudgeble time in which 123 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: a fresh Zeno could conceivably bulk up to its adult form. Romulus, however, 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: really throws this idea out the air locks. Cenomorphs grow 125 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: in size at a crazy pace in virtually no time, 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: though thankfully we don't observe it in real time. I 127 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: want to stress, though, that this is a minor quibbled 128 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: that this didn't actually detract from my enjoyment of the film. 129 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: It was still a tremendous time. But I couldn't help 130 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: but think about it. I can't help but apply that, 131 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, the science podcast or brain to it a 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: little bit. As Joe pointed out to me, we were 133 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: talking about this before I came into record. There's at 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: least some mention made in Romulus of a remarkable cellular 135 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: property of Zeno cells that Rook hasn't completely worked out, 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: and you know, we see some of that in some 137 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: footage of an old experiment in the film. So perhaps 138 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: this is a nod to their ability to grow at 139 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: such a pace, and the film is just you know, 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: accepting it and wrapping this into the lore. And also 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: I understand that you know, ultimately you're trying to tell 142 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: a thrilling story, so it's also a pacing choice as well. 143 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: So fair enough. As I mentioned in the twenty twelve 144 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: How Stuff Works article, fast growth spurts are common here 145 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: on Earth. It's one of the primary ways to ensure 146 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: a creature's offspring will survive by allowing it to reach 147 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: maturity as soon as possible. For example, one mind blowing 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: example of this that I brought up in that article 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: is that a newborn blue whale grows at a rate 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: of two hundred pounds or ninety one kilograms every day, 151 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: consuming its mother's milk. But again, it's consuming in order 152 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: to grow. Other examples of interest here. According to the 153 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: American Museum of Natural History, the t rex Tyrhnosaurus rex 154 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: is thought to have grown at an estimated rate of 155 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: four point six pounds or two point five kilograms per 156 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: day for about fourteen years, and on a much smaller scale, E. 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: Colide bacteria can double its population every twenty minutes, subject 158 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: to environmental conditions. Again, all and all, Alien Romulus was 159 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: a tremendously fun ride that I thought honored the tradition 160 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: and a welcome installment in one of my favorite film franchises. 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing it again. Tune in for 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: additional episodes of The Monster Fact, The Artifact, or Animalia 163 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: Stupendium each week. I believe Animalius Dupendium is going to 164 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: come back, If not next week, then the week after. 165 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, as always, you can email us with recommendations, feedback, 166 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: or in this case, your thoughts on Alien Romulus at 167 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: contact at Stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. 168 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow Your Mind is production of iHeartRadio. For 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 170 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows