1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: How sweet must it be to be in the business 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: of creating problems that you get to come up with 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the solutions to like someone else created the problem. I 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: just described college football on the administrative side of things, 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what we're going to talk about. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: It is the Lake Extra Podcast. Happy that you're here 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: with us. It's probably probably Tuesday, February twenty first, the 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: year of our lower twenty twenty three, wherever you're listening, 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: But hey, we call this evergreen for a reason. It 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: could be Saturday for all week here. A ninety eight 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: percent of what we talk about here will still be relevant. 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys so much. Forty seven percent of our 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: podcast audience is still not subscribed. I'm not going to 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: ask you why. I'm not even gonna blame you. I'm 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna give you a forty eight hour amnesty period, No 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: questions asked. Just subscribe to or follow the podcast. That's it. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: That's our only request. And with that we dive into 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: the waters of the Late Kick Extra mail bag. If 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: you want to submit a question, it's pretty simple. Every 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Sunday or Monday, I put the call out on Twitter 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: and Instagram at Late Kick Josh and you can submit 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: questions and we get to as many of them as possible. 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Let's dive in. I wanted to start with this story 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: from Ross Dellinger. So Ross Dellinger, great college football reporter 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: and insider for Sports Illustrated, how to report. This comes 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: out on Monday morning, well timed, by the way, and 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: it essentially talks about what's been rumored around the college 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: football watering hole for a long time, and that is 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the powers that be had been meeting behind the curtain 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: over there that you and I don't get to peak behind, 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: and they've been talking about how to shorten games because 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: apparently length of games is all of a sudden, this 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: existential crisis. It's a hard word to say, it's a 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: harder concept to grasp. Let me tell you what Ross 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Dellinger reported again he's the messenger here. He said, they've 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: come up with four proposals and this is not fine, 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: this will go before a committee and blah blah blah, YadA, 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: yah YadA. Here are the four proposals, two of which 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: have broad support, and you and I don't have a 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: problem with the first one is they're going to prohibit 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: consecutive timeouts. So if you're lining up for a field goal. 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: They can't burn all three of their timeouts in a row. 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: That's cool. No one has a problem with that, or 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: at least most people wouldn't. Second proposal, no untimed down 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter or third quarter. 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: No one cares hardly ever happens anyway. The third one 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a little more pushback, but I still expect 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: there to be a majority consensus approval on this, and 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: that is the clock runs after first downs except inside 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: of two minutes. That's the NFL rule, and people have 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: called for that for a while, some people, not all people, 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: but I think if they do that largely, you won't 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: even notice the difference, because again it's the NFL rule. 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: When you get inside two minutes before halftime and before 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the end of the game, the clock does stop on 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: first downs. That's how it would work in college football. 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: In the NFL, they've done that for a long time. 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: So here's the fourth one. The fourth one's completely absurd. 59 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: The fourth one is the clock runs on an incompleted 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: pass once the ball is spotted. That fundamentally alters the 61 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: game for no reason whatsoever. So here's what happens. In 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: college football. College football essentially is a bunch of people 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: who threw a rock through a window and they broke 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: the glass, and then they scream to the neighborhood, we 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: got to fix this problem over here, and everyone knows 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: you caused the problem. Like I look at length of 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: game and I look at the argument they're making, and 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I think about two different things. The length of the 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: football game is not all that different than how long 70 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: a football game took to play in nineteen ninety seven. 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: You're talking about the difference in a couple of minutes. 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: And you may say to me, Josh, that's not possible, 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: because I watch these games and they last way longer. Yes, 74 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the presentation of the game lasts way longer. I'm asking you, 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: is it the trappings around the game, is it the 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: formatting of the game, or is it the game itself? 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Because if you understand formatting of broadcasts, then you understand 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: why games take so long. Now, if you understand how 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: absurdly long a lot of review processes happen unnecessarily, then 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: you understand why games take so long. As sometimes they 81 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: go three and a half, three forty five sometimes four hours. 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't need to be that way there are very simple 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: tweaks that you could make. Unfortunately, some of those tweaks 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: would involve you giving up a little money. And this 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: group of folks, in no shape, form or fashion, is 86 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: ever going to explore any kind of possibility that costs 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: them a cent. That's not going to happen, mind you. 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: My evidence is this is the same group of people 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: that claim to be needing to shorten games for player safety, 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: as they're about to expand a playoff and ask some 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: teams to have to play seventeen games to win a championship. 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: No one cares about player safety, or at least if 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: you do, you're being disingenuous with your posed solutions. The 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: answer is simple. The reason the games take longer is 95 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: because you've got longer ad breaks, commercial breaks as you 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: would call them. You have also got games that don't 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: kick off at the top of the hour. I'll give 98 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: the ESPN credit. ESPN kicks off their noon game at noon. 99 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: You've watched college game day before, and as soon as 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: they come out of College game Day, they toss to 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: the stadium. Teams are lined up, they kick it off 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: because they got to get that thing out of the 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: way by three thirty. But by and large, what happens, 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what has happened. What has happened 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: is if you factor in let's just say ten commercial breaks, 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: there are more than that. I'm just gonna be conservative 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: on the estimates. Here ten commercial breaks, you add one 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: thirty second AD break more per game. That's five minutes 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: of extra time in that game. You've then added reviews 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: into games. We didn't used to have reviews. We have 111 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: reviews now, and I don't know how long on average 112 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: those take. I'm gonna say, let's just say you've got 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: five minutes of reviews in a game, or way longer. 114 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Some may not be that long. I just added ten 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: minutes to a game. The intro from a broadcast presentation perspective, 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: and tosses to break, and the way that halftime has 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: subtly been fattened a little bit because all of those 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: rights have been sold. That adds you another five or 119 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: so minutes. And I'm geting a conservative on these estimates. 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: I just added fifteen minutes to a game, and I 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't change a thing about the football field. I didn't 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: change a thing about the rules. I didn't change a 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: thing about the game broadcast television, and a lot of 124 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: the formatting of the way the game is structured for 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: television is the reason your games are taking so long. 126 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: If you want to shortened games, you don't have to 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: screw with the game itself, your answers in the mirror. 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: There's nothing on that field that needs to be altered. 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: And again I'm telling you, I don't have a problem 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: with two of those proposals. Really probably wouldn't have a 131 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: problem with the third proposal. But you're talking about fundamentally 132 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: altering a game that's perfectly fine for reasons that are 133 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: well within your control, and it's absurd. And for the record, 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect that fourth rule to pass. I think 135 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: even if you read Ross Dellinger's report, he made sure 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: to characterize these as really sort of still being on 137 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: the table. He made sure to qualify that fourth rule 138 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: proposal as being one that is getting the most pushback. 139 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: He said, the third one, the NFL first down rule, 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: is kind of fifty to fifty. The fourth one is 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: getting a lot of pushback. It should It's stupid, it's 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: not the way football should be played. An incomplete pass 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: to remind you what the rule is. I want you 144 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: to imagine, like a minute and change left in a game, 145 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and it's second and ten, you're out of timeouts, and 146 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: you throw an incomplete pass like thirty five yards downfield. 147 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: They are just suggesting once that ball spotty clock keeps running, 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that fundamentally alters football stupid should not ever work that way. 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: And the other question I ask is, where is this 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: line of people, where's this army of that think it's 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: such an existential threat that games last a little bit longer. 152 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Now I'm with you, I'm normally in a stadium. I'm 153 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: normally on the sideline. You may be at home, you 154 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: may be in a stadium. None of us like how 155 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: long commercial breaks are. But I get that this is 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: a for profit industry. I benefit from it. It would 157 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: be very hypocritical of me to say shame on these 158 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: networks for generating all this revenue. That's how I get paid. 159 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: I get that, So I'm not being hypocritical. What I 160 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: am saying is the formatting of the game is the problem, 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: not the game itself. And the other thing that I 162 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: would ask is, even having said all that, like, there 163 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of problems that the typical fan you 164 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: guys have with this game. Length of game is never 165 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: what you complain to me about. You complain to me 166 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: about process related issues all the time. You hate the 167 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: way targeting is or isn't enforced. You don't like conference 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: realignment for the sake of the almighty dollar. These are 169 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: things I hear about from you daily, hourly. I tried 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: to think earlier today. We open a mail bag to 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you every week. It's the way we format this presentation. Actually, 172 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. I have yet to have 173 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: one of you ask me what we should do about 174 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the length of games. I'm a kid, you not. Not 175 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: a single one of you has ever asked me that. 176 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: And yet I got a group of folks who have 177 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: never buckled a chin strap in their life, who meet 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, who are claiming that length of games 179 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: that's the biggest threat facing the sport right now. That 180 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: is priority one A that we have to address. And 181 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: it's just absurd. So to answer the question, I didn't 182 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: think much of the report at all. The report team 183 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: was great. It's not a knock on Ross DELANDR. I'm 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: saying what he was forced to report, which is just 185 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: the facts. The facts kind of suck, especially the fourth 186 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: fact kind of sucks, and I hope it doesn't. Hope 187 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't make it anywhere past that report. The other ones, 188 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm fine with. Other ones, I'm totally fine with. I mean, reviews, 189 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: those things could be overhauled immediately. It is. It is 190 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: so dumb that we take officials off the field and 191 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: still have them put on a headset and watch a monitor, 192 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: when when the NFL's got that figured out, someone in 193 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: New York could be doing that. You don't even need 194 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: to leave, just stand on the field, get ready for 195 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the next play, and wait for that voice in your 196 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: ear to tell you whether the play stands or not. 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: It's so simple, it's almost like it's almost like we're 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: theatrical in the way that we make officials go through 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the review process. It's dumb. If we were to reinvent 200 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: the game today, we would never have it operate that way. 201 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: I would also argue, if you want to find a 202 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: little extra time, I probably would not reinvent the game 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: today and make halftime as long as it is. But 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: if you've sold halftime advertising and naming rights to Ford 205 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: or Chevy or Target, then all of a sudden, we 206 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: can't cut into the profits. We can't do that, but 207 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: I better keep my mouth shut because again, that's how 208 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: we generate revenue around here as well. Next question this 209 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: lovely Wednesday morning. Depending on when you're listening, could be Tuesday. 210 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, be next Monday. Max from Gresham, Oregon said, 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: is there a viable way to limit the same four 212 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: to five teams from having eighty percent of the blue 213 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: chip players in America on their roster? It would help 214 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: prevent college football from turning into a regional, mostly southern sport. 215 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Max is being a little hyperbolic there. It's not quite 216 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: just four to five teams that horrid eighty percent of 217 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: the talent, but it's not far from that. Max has 218 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: a point, and yes, I have an answer for you. 219 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: The secret lies with Charlotte. That was one of the 220 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: answers to the riddles in one of the National Treasurer movies. 221 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: The secret in college football doesn't lie in Charlotte. Go 222 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, which is the college football team in Charlotte. 223 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: But the secret doesn't lie in Charlotte. The secret lies 224 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: in southern California, Texas and Florida, because that's where the 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: talent comes from. This has always been the case, and 226 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: I have told you as long as we have done 227 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: this show, which is going on three years. In fact, Colin, 228 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you're in the other room. I don't know if you 229 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: know this. We are five days away from our three 230 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: year anniversary of launching Lake Kick. Here at twenty four 231 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: to seven. Where's our balloon? We have no balloons, Jesse, 232 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: get on it. We need balloons for our anniversary. Yeah, 233 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: So those three states? What have I said? Since I've 234 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: been here, everyone's talked about parody and anytime we've gotten 235 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: into the playoff debate, some of you just want the 236 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: playoff to expand because you want an expanded playoff. But 237 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: some of you want the playoff to expand, and your 238 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: main reason is I want more competitive balance in the sport. 239 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I want the talent to be more evenly distributed. Now 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you know my thoughts. I don't think that's the result 241 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: that you're going to get. But that's just opinion. Could 242 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: be wrong, could be right, whatever. But I've told you 243 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: I don't think you need an expanded playoff to divvy 244 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: up the talent in a more even fashion. You just 245 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: need Florida State to be better. You need Miami to 246 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: be better. You need Florida to be better. You've needed 247 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Texas and Texas A and M to be better. You've 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: needed UCLA and Southern California to be better. It wouldn't 249 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: hurt if the Arizona schools were better. So point being, 250 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the same teams, the same three 251 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 1: or four or five teams, Well, who have we talked about? 252 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: Think about the past decade, which teams have had the 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: best rosters in the sport? Alabama has had the best roster. 254 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: You don't go to the state of Alabama and take 255 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: a ton of talent. University of Alabama doesn't get the 256 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: lion's share of their talent on their roster from their state. 257 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: They go to South Florida, they go to Texas where 258 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: Bryce Young play his high school football played at in 259 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: Southern California. Tua came from Hawaii and there was concern 260 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: that he couldn't adjust to the English language. That was 261 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: a real thing. By the way, for a little while, 262 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the most famous message board threads I've ever 263 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: seen was over on Tim Wats's message board Bama online 264 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: dot com. There was this guy who was concerned about 265 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: the language barrier for Tua. Which language did he think 266 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: he was speaking? In Honolulu, Hawaii, Awna. But Tua comes 267 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: on campus and the first time a mike is put 268 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: in his face, he says, Hey, I'm Tua. It's good 269 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: to be in Tuscaloosa. Any questions. You can speak English? Yeah? Yeah. 270 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: It turns out everyone in his family could because they 271 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: all speak English. So anyway to it was from a 272 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: little bit further away than the point I'm making with 273 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: California players. If you did nothing more, then have Southern 274 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: cal and UCLA keep more players at home in Southern California. 275 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: If you did nothing more, then have Texas and A 276 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: and m doing what they're pretty much starting to do 277 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: right now, which is keep more Texas players home. And 278 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: here's the key. If Florida, FSU and Miami had their 279 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: act together on a high level basis, and Miami did 280 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: a good job of it this last cycle and they 281 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: were landing top ten classes, you got your answer, Max, 282 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: That's all it would take. That's it. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio 283 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: State for years have raided the states I just mentioned, 284 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: the regions, the territories I just mentioned, and those those 285 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: programs haven't been able to do anything about it because Alabama, Clemson, 286 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: and Ohio State have been able to look them in 287 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: the eye and say, we're proven we win. You may 288 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: want to stay closer to home, but can you really 289 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: stay closer to home and win right now? And the 290 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: answer has been no. Simple. That's what's had to change. 291 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: And that's why you hear me talk so much about 292 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Mario christophal in Miami. I talk so much about Sarkin Texas. 293 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: I talk so much about Lincoln Riley and USC and 294 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: some of what even Chip Kelly's doing at UCLA and 295 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: the portal. I talk about it because that's the key 296 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: to fundamentally changing the sport. That's the key to basically 297 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: chopping off the peak of the mountain and all of 298 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: a sudden you're looking around the landscape and there is 299 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: no huge disproportionate gap between the top tier and then 300 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: tier two, which is the way it was for a while. 301 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: And I think we who knows Fingerscoff, we maybe aren't 302 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: our way to realizing that a little bit. In college football. 303 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: It's a good question, though. I mean, truth is, there 304 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: are probably more than just that one way that you 305 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: even or more evenly distribute talent. I just have always 306 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: been of the opinion to continue to be that expanding 307 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the playoff and a few more teams making the playoff 308 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: is not going to be this magic elixir that some 309 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: people hope. I don't think that that's the case. I 310 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: do think that just those programs in general getting their 311 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: act together, that would help you out, and it would 312 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: help everyone else in return. Because see, even if Texas 313 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Tech does not necessarily vault into the top ten and recruiting, 314 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: just the mere fact that some of the big boys 315 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: are coming back down to earth a little bit more 316 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: gives a Texas Tech a little bit higher percentage chance 317 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: of winning each week or the weeks that they play 318 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: those big boys. Ditto for Washington in the Pac twe 319 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: of Washington's probably not ever going to be a top 320 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: five recruiter, but if the talent's more evenly distributed, who knows, 321 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Hoops knows all right, next question, Dylan came at us 322 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: and said, will a rebuild year still be a valid 323 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: excuse in the future of college football with a transfer 324 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: portal being such a big deal now from Oxford Alabama? Dylan, 325 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: it's a good question, and I think the answer is 326 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: up in the air. And basically what Dylan's saying is, 327 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: once upon a time, not too long ago, like five 328 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: years ago. It used to be that when your head 329 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: coach was hired, it was understood we got to give 330 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: him time. Then you have the Sonny dikes Is of 331 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: the world doing what Sonny Dikes just did at TCU, 332 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden people look and say, were 333 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: we wrong all this time? Because this dude who was 334 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: at SMU just took the TCU job and played for 335 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: a national championship in his first year? Am I reading 336 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: that right? Am I hearing that right? Yes? You are. 337 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: For that matter, Lincoln Riley in his first year at USC, 338 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: the question was kind of about the transfer portal. Lincoln 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Riley ended up adding seven wins onto USC's win total 340 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: in year one. They went eleven and three played for 341 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve championship. Who knows if Caleb Williams stays 342 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: healthy how that game would have turned out. The point is, 343 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of kidding yourself if you don't think fan 344 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: bases and other athletic directors around the country aren't watching 345 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: that and keeping it in the back of their mind 346 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: for down the road when they may have a new 347 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: head coach and that new head coach comes in and says, 348 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: I need some time. You know what they do. In 349 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, they say you got it. In 350 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, they're gonna say, no, you don't get that. 351 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Number one because we think, since we pay you a 352 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: whole lot of money, it reinvents the formula for success somehow, 353 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: just pop it in the microwave, pop it out twenty 354 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: seconds later, give us what we want. And number two 355 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Sunny Dykes did it. Why can't you do it? Lincoln 356 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: Riley did it? Why can't you do it? Think that's 357 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I absolutely think it's gonna happen. They 358 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: may not say it out front, they may not say 359 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: it at the press conference, but that's absolutely gonna be 360 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: the expectation. And it's not just an athletic director thing. 361 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned fans on purpose. I think that you're also 362 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: kidding yourself if you don't think when your new head 363 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: coach walks in maybe twenty twenty four, twenty five, maybe 364 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: you got one this year. If you don't think that 365 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: your own fan base, a portion of your own fan base, 366 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: it can gonna look and say, remember what TCU did 367 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: in year one, Remember what USC did in year one? 368 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: What do they have that we don't. You're kidding yourself. 369 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: That stuff matters, especially if those fans happen to be 370 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: some of the ones with deeper pockets. You might know 371 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: them as boosters or donors. It matters, So, Dylan, it's 372 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: a big concern. I think it's why buyouts are not 373 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: going anywhere. You know, a lot of folks look at 374 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the buyout structure in college football and they think it's 375 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: crazy that some of these coaches get paid so much 376 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: to get fired. But the caveat is you'd be out 377 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: of your mind not to require that kind of buyout 378 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: in exchange for the pressure cooker you're walking into. Think 379 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: about Hugh Freeze. Now this is not the best example, 380 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: cause he did not have much leverage with which to negotiate, 381 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: but let's use Hugh Freeze anyway. Hugh Freeze takes the 382 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: job at Auburn. These are some of the most impatient 383 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: people on the planet, and I love them. I grew 384 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: up right down there, forty five minutes away from Auburn, 385 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: but they reside in the same state as Nick Saban 386 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: and Alabama. They have to compete every year against Georgia. 387 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: It's their two biggest rivals are the top two programs 388 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: in America Right now, You think that doesn't put pressure 389 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: on the head coach at Auburn. The expectations are still 390 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: sky high, Yet you've got to face You're the only 391 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: team in America aside from Tennessee that has to face 392 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: those two every year. Then you got Brian Kelly and 393 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: LSU just for good measure. There are some schedule projections, 394 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: by the way, which we'll talk about a little later, 395 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: that suggests in the new SEC format, Auburn will play Bama, 396 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: Georgia LSU every year, which they already do, but in 397 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: the future, everyone else is going to get their schedule 398 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: calibrated to ward. The permanent rival opponents consist of maybe 399 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: one or two big boys and then a Missouri, no disrespect, 400 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: not Auburn. So yeah, Hugh Freeese is gonna walk in there. 401 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: And the reality Shaneemer's dealing with this, although he's overachieved, 402 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: But Shane Biemer's got a heck of a tough job 403 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: on his hands. But people, as much perspective as they 404 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: claim to have in August, when they get to December, 405 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: all they see is your win loss record. They don't 406 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: care about your strength of schedule. They don't care about 407 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: how banged up you were. They don't care about any 408 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: of that. They just the logic get sucked out of 409 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the room and it's all about result with no context whatsoever. 410 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: And if you only win seven games and the other 411 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: guy won nine, that's why you got to buy out 412 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: the size that a lot of these guys buyouts are. 413 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: So put some chapstick on here. The sound effect was 414 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: not necessary. That was from me, by the way. Next 415 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: question a question here from Lincoln to Georgia. Do you 416 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: think college football could become internationalized? And if so, what 417 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: country or country is do you think football would be 418 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: really big in I've got thoughts on this, and we've 419 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: never talked about it on the show. I don't think 420 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: maybe once maybe when we were back in Columbus. I 421 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: think it's a bad idea and I've got reasons for it. 422 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: So think along with me here wherever you are you 423 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe in the gym, driving around somewhere. Maybe you're in 424 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln and Georgia, good people in Lincolnton. Do you think 425 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: it's in college football's best interest to do stuff like 426 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Nebraska in Northwestern just did to play a game in Ireland, 427 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: for example. I think Stanford has opened in Australia recently. 428 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that's a smart thing. Do you think 429 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: it benefits our game and benefits your fan bases, benefits 430 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: your university, your players, etc. I'm not talking about the 431 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: stuff like Harbaugh does. Harbaugh's taking his players on spring trips. 432 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm all for that. That's a great experience for players. 433 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: If you can afford it as a program, go for it. 434 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: We're talking about internationalizing the game, I assume in terms 435 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: of taking college football games overseas, which I think is 436 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: a terrible idea. Hear me out on this. I'm not 437 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: saying I don't want international viewers. We get viewers from 438 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: all over the globe. It's wild how many fans check 439 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: in when I give the shout outs for the cities Okanawa, Japan, 440 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: which I know is a lot of military, but still 441 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: we got folks all over the globe. None of them 442 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: ever tell me I need the games to come to me. 443 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: I gotta have the games come to me. It's because 444 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I think a college football fan understands why they love 445 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: college football. The NFL game, I think is made to 446 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: be internationalized. I think the NBA is made to be 447 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: internationalized because those games don't matter from a venue standpoint, 448 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: With very few exceptions, an NFL game is sort of 449 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: a made for television broadcast that might as well be 450 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: in a studio. I know different NFL stadiums have different fields, 451 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: but if you just zoom it way out, remove like 452 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay, which is totally unique, most NFL venues are 453 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: just the same. To an outsider, They're the same in NBA, ditto, 454 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: just the same. College football is not like that at all. 455 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: If you're watching a college football game and it's at LSU, 456 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: there's no mistaking that that's LSU if you have a 457 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: clue what you're watching, And the fact is the pageantry 458 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: and the in stadium experience, the atmosphere, the presentation, the 459 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: spectacle of what it's like to watch a game happening 460 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: in Lincoln, Nebraska is not duplicable. You can't take that 461 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: on the road. If you watch a Broadway play, yeah 462 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: it's great that you can see it on Broadway, but 463 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: there's a reason those plays eventually tour around the country. 464 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: You can load up the set, you can load up 465 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: the crew, you can find venues all over America and beyond, 466 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: and you can pretty much duplicate the presentation You can't 467 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: package up in Arborn, Michigan and take it on the 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: road with you. You can't package up Aughtson Stadium. You 469 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: gotta be in Eugene, Oregon for people to experience that. 470 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: What is an Oregon football game if it's not in 471 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Aughtson Stadium? Like what is an Alabama football game if 472 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: it's not in Bryant any Stadium? So for that reason, 473 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't think internationalizing college football should ever mean taking 474 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: the games to the international audience. Physically, what I think 475 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: we would be very wise to do is market the 476 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: game internationally and say we've got a product. Now it 477 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: has to stay here, but you may love what you see. 478 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: You guys, I've got this here. You may like this 479 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: a lot. If I want to go see the Statue 480 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: of Liberty, for example, they don't bring the Statue of 481 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Liberty to Forts and Georgia. I know it's in New 482 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: York City and I go to New York City, or 483 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: I could read books about it in Forts and Georgia. 484 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: But I know that thing's in New York City. It 485 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: would be dumb to try and replicate it anywhere else, 486 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: even though I know we have like two other ones 487 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: somewhere around the globe, but no one knows about them. 488 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: They know about the one they're in New York City. 489 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: Same thing with college football. So internationalizing the game I'm 490 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: okay with as long as we understand keeping the game 491 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: fixed on the stage it's supposed to be on and 492 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: having the global audience focus their attention on the stage 493 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: where the stage is. That's the key. If you want 494 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: to internationalize the game, I'm cool with it. Just let's 495 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: make sure we understand what we're marketing. Good question, though, 496 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: I think you know who's running the sport right now, 497 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know what's at the forefront of their motivation 498 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: and imagination. So it wouldn't shock me at all if 499 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: we don't see more test cases. Hey, since the NFL 500 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: plays a couple of games and we got to I mean, 501 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: the NFL can't cough and sneeze without us doing the 502 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: same thing. I don't know why, but that's the way 503 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: it is right now. Hornsby head and quoted Bruce Hornsby 504 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: in a while. Next up, hypothetically speaking, what would it 505 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: take to unseat the Week thirteen trip to ann Arbor 506 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: this year? Hoops? Are the programs and matchups you're looking 507 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: at to possibly unseat that game, Sorry Auburn, not this year. 508 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: That question comes from Charleston, South Carolina. What that question 509 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: entails is a knowledge of our show and our brand. 510 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: The first way I can tell is because he said 511 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: hoops instead of who. Five bonus points for that. And secondly, 512 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: he's already looking at this falls tour and I don't 513 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: even know what the tour is going to be named. 514 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: You may be brand new around here. Research indicates like 515 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: two percent of every show audience is new, so a 516 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: lot of you are listening to this for the first time. 517 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: We get to go on the road every Saturday in 518 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: the fall. We get to just choose where we want 519 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: to go, get us a couple of sideline passes, and 520 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: we go and we experience the best that our sport 521 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: has to offer. And given a name, we call it 522 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: a tour. We dress it up well. I last couple 523 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: of years have been able to tell you well ahead 524 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: of time we're going to be at Ohio State, Michigan 525 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: or Michigan Ohio State. And it could very well be 526 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: the case again this year. If I had to place 527 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: money on where we're going to be in Rivalry week, 528 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: I would say we're going to be in ann Arbor, Michigan. 529 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Two years ago, we were up there snowstorm, especially after 530 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: the game. I know you guys don't call it a snowstorm. 531 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Let me reintererrate or iterate. There's no end. I come 532 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: from west central Georgia. Forty eight degrees is coat weather 533 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: where I'm from. It's a big deal to see frost. 534 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: So when I'm up there watching a football game played 535 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: in the snow, and then afterwards when it's snowing sideways 536 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get from ann Arbor to Detroit 537 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: International Airport to fly home, which somehow I was able 538 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: to do in a rental car with front wheel drive only, 539 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: it's a big deal and we were up there and 540 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: it was a crazy scene. That was the one where 541 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: Michigan won for the first time in a while, to 542 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: be confused with the next year where they also won 543 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: in Columbus this past November, we were at that one too. 544 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: I think about Rivalry Week and the question, by the way, 545 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: is if you don't go to that game, which game 546 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: would you hypothetically be at. I saw the question came 547 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: from Charleston, South Carolina, So I can't help but think 548 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: that there may be a suspicion that South Carolina hosting 549 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Clemson could be the answer. What do we think about that? 550 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: There was a follow up if you didn't notice where 551 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: it's at, Sorry, Auburn not this year. So the insinuation 552 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: there is the Iron Bowl's not going to be a 553 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: valid candidate. I would probably agree with that, although crazier 554 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: things have happened. I wouldn't bet on Auburn Alabama right 555 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: now being that game. Clemson South Carolina could be that game. 556 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Look what I'm doing my hands here? Yeah, yeah, the 557 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: old what do they call this? Twiddling of the thumbs? 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: That means I'm thinking probably harder than I should. Immunity. 559 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I think it could be Clemson at South Carolina. I've 560 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: never been to that game recently for obvious reasons. I 561 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: did not know, for example, that South Carolina was going 562 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: to upset Clemson in Death Valley this past year. But 563 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: then again, I was at Michigan Ohio State, so we 564 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: were still at the right place. But I think I 565 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: think it could be Clemson at South Carolina. I think 566 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: it could be we'll see. Next question Brendan asked from Kingstown, 567 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Rhode Island, North Kingstown, Rhode Island, mind you, he asked, 568 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: assuming you have control of all conferences, what would be 569 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: the ideal conference? Aka? Would you move teams back and forth, 570 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe have more of a big East, or would you 571 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: keep them where they are now? Well, I definitely move teams. 572 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't like the setup right now, candidly, I don't 573 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: like it. I sometimes don't even like this set up 574 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: within conferences. I don't like that Missouri is in the 575 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: SEC East and Auburn is in the SEC West. Makes 576 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: no sense to me. But even beyond just interconference goings on, 577 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't like that West Virginia has to travel one 578 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: thousand miles for their nearest road game. Don't like it 579 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: at all. I don't particularly like that Texas and Oklahoma 580 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: are about to be in the SEC. It boggles my 581 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: mind that UCLA and USC are about to enter a 582 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: situation where they play conference games in College Park, Maryland 583 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: and Piscataway, New Jersey. Sometimes you can slowly boil yourself 584 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: to death the old boiling frog metaphor analogy whatever, and 585 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: you just you just slow bake yourself into absurdity. And 586 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: that's why you want to heat the water up to 587 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: boiling and toss the frog again, because the frog just 588 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: jumps right out that water's hot. I don't want to 589 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: be in there. Imagine yourself if you were alive in 590 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, most of you were, and you 591 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: loved college football back then. Imagine just pausing life and 592 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: then unpausing it in twenty twenty three and waking up 593 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: to see where the sport was and where we are now, 594 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: and think about how hard you would laugh and then 595 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: morphing into how badly you would just weep for where 596 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: the sport is right now. There's no excuse, none, for 597 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: a USC to be in the Big ten. None the excuse. 598 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I understand why they did it. I'm saying there's no 599 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: excuse for things to have gotten to that point, no excuse. 600 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: It's it's crippling amounts of ineptitude due to people having 601 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: their hands on the wheel who had no business having 602 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: their hands on the wheel. And that's how you get 603 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: such a disproportionate strength or balance of power in college football, 604 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: a sport already prone to certain amounts of that. But 605 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, if you think football on 606 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the West Coast ever had any business slipping into the 607 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: abyss that it had slipped into, to the point where 608 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: the Big Ten could come poach those two. You're crazy, 609 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: and so conferences to me would always be geographically based 610 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: because I love the regionality, the territoriality of college football. 611 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: Love it, absolutely love it. It's sort of high school football, 612 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: but on a little bit more broad scale. Like in 613 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: high school when I was playing at Harris County High School, 614 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: we played Hardaway High School, Shaw High School, Columbus High School. 615 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: We played teams that we could reach via school bus 616 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: within an hour, and even now that's changed in high 617 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: school sports. I know, you guys in Texas live a 618 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: different life, some of you have to travel eight hours, 619 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: but in most parts of the country, especially east of 620 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: the Mississippi, things you to be or maybe currently still 621 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: are based on geography who are you closest to and 622 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: then you got to take into account obviously the student 623 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: population size. But absolutely that's how college football should work. Absolutely, yes, 624 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: that's how I should work. And absolutely it's not how 625 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: it works right now. I mean, you look at rumors 626 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: these days, not the album, but the actual rumors around 627 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: college football, and you see, hey, the Big Ten may 628 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: be looking at Miami, Hey the Big ten may be 629 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: looking at Washington. Think about what I just said, that's real. 630 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Like what I just told you, those are real rumors. 631 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: The Big Ten Conference, which is I think headquartered in Chicago, 632 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: it's a Midwest conference, is simultaneously looking to add a 633 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: team in Miami, Florida and Seattle, Washington. And it makes 634 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: sense to people. That's the world we're in right now, 635 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: where we may add someone from Miami in this once 636 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: upon a time I'm geographical sport, this regional sport. We 637 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: may add a team from Miami or maybe a team 638 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: from Seattle, or who knows, maybe we'll just add both 639 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: of them. And given the current direction of the sport, 640 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: people go, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I could see it. 641 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: Gross when I'm college football commissioner, changes are coming, changes 642 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: are coming. Sad Next up, I don't even want to 643 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: talk about that anymore. He depresses me. The direction of 644 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: the sport in some cases depresses me. That's why it's 645 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: best just not to think about it. Next question was 646 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: from Nathan. Nathan asked, what are your thoughts on Dion Sanders' 647 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: comments on The Rich Eisen Show about wanting lineman who 648 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: grew up in single parent households and quarterbacks who grew 649 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: up in two parent homes from Jerusalem, Israel. I told 650 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: you we had an international audience, so I got to 651 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: pull out the old Trustee laptop for this. I had 652 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: producer Jesse send me these exact quotes. These are Dion's words, 653 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: not mine. I think a lot of you heard this. 654 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: For the few of you who didn't listen to this 655 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: eye opener, three quotes here. Different positions are different, Dion 656 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: says offensive lineman. I look for guys from dual parent homes. 657 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: A strong father, they adhere to smart kid at least 658 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: three point three gpa and above, tough and physical. That's 659 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: not controversial, he continued, defensive line. Totally opposite. I want 660 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: kids from a single parent household, single mama trying to 661 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: get it. He's on free lunch. I'm talking about just 662 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: trying to make it. He's trying to rescue mama, like 663 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: mama barely made the flight, and I just want him 664 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: to go get it. It's a whole different set of 665 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: attributes you look for in different positions, and we have 666 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: that stuff just chronicled. We know what we want and 667 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: we go get it. Third quote, quarterbacks are different. We 668 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: want a mother, a father, two parent household. We want 669 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: that kid, to be at least a three point five GPA, 670 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: because he has to be smart, not bad decisions off 671 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: the field at all. He has to be a leader 672 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: of men, and so many different attributes in what we 673 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: look for when we see a quarterback er there. What 674 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: do you think about that? Now, there was a group 675 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: of people who recoiled at this. I saw the reaction 676 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: the other day. I waited, candidly. I waited to react 677 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: to this because I wanted to see. I wanted to 678 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: see what the reaction was from other corners of our industry. 679 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: Now it was sharply divided, as I imagined it would be, 680 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 1: And on one side were people who understand how sports work. 681 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying everyone who's never played was on 682 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: the other side of the fence. But the folks I 683 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: saw pushing back on this and saying this is a problem. 684 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: You can have that opinion. What I noticed is a 685 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: majority of them did not have a full working knowledge 686 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: of how recruiting works and how decisions are made. So 687 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you what Dion said there is not revolutionary. 688 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: It's only revolutionary in one sense, and that's het it publicly. 689 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: Because this has been a going philosophy for a long 690 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: time for several coaching staffs, several major, high profile programs 691 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: and head coaches. And it's not hard and fast. By 692 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: the way, there are exceptions to every rule. It's not 693 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: like if you look at the next Joe Montana, for example, 694 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: or in a more modern sense, if you see the 695 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: next Trevor Lawrence, but he only has one parent in 696 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: the household, Dion Sanders is not going to pass up 697 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: offering him a scholarship. That's not what he's saying. He's saying, 698 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: we have fairly strict parameters, and then we always have 699 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: room for a manual override. But he's saying, by and large, 700 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: because of the qualities we want at this position, and 701 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: because by and large the kind of person that this 702 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of environment provides fits these parameters, that's how we're 703 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: going to set our criteria. And I have heard this 704 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: for a long time about recruiting defensive linemen. You want 705 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: people who carry themselves a certain way off the field, 706 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: but when you get them on the field, they gotta 707 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: have a little different something in them. And there are 708 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: all kind of adjectives you can use. Coaches, especially when 709 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: you get them off the record, will not hold back 710 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: and using those adjectives. You got to have a different 711 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: mentality to play defensive line, to be an edge rusher, 712 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: and to really maximize impact on a game, to really 713 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: fully bring out your God given ability on a football field. 714 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: It's a violent sport. You got to have a violent 715 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: mentality to play that position. You don't have to have 716 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: a violent mentality to be a receiver. I'd love for 717 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: you to have one, especially when it comes to fighting 718 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: for fifty to fifty balls, especially when it comes to 719 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: being able to stalk, block and help me in the 720 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: run game. I'd love for you to have it, but 721 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to have it. You don't have to 722 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: have a violent mentality to be a quarterback. I need 723 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: you to be cerebral, like Dion said, I need you 724 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: to be a good decision maker. You need to have poise. 725 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: I need you to have accuracy. I need other people 726 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: to look at you you and want to follow you. 727 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: You got to have leadership characteristics. But you don't have 728 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: to be a violent person or you don't have to 729 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: have a violent mentality necessarily defensive line. You do. There 730 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: are no soft defensive linemen. They get weeded out pretty quickly. 731 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: And I've talked about this in another context on previous 732 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: shows that have nothing to do with football. Like I 733 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: told you, I am a big believer that there is 734 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: this swath of the American youth right now and has 735 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: been for a while that came up in a two 736 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: parent household. They weren't rich, they weren't poor. They were 737 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: just tweeners that don't have that defensive lineman dog in them. 738 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: And they may not even play sports. They're not hardened, 739 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: they're not soft. They didn't grow up needing for anything. 740 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: But they also didn't grow up with everything handed to them, 741 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: and they just kind of float around for a little while. 742 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: They don't have their backs against the wall from birth, 743 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: but they also aren't born on third base. And I 744 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: grew up like that. Now, on the economic scale, we 745 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: were probably a little bit lower than we were higher. 746 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't exactly call us middle class. But I grew 747 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: up with two loving parents, and so I did not 748 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: grow up thinking the world was out to get me. 749 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up thinking I am my family's only shot. 750 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up knowing I had to raise my 751 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: loved ones out of abject poverty. I didn't have that 752 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: kind of fire in me. My motivation comes from other places. 753 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: But I didn't have that in me. But I had 754 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: friends who did, and I played sports with them. And you, 755 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: if you've ever played, if you've ever been in a 756 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: locker room, you know exactly what I'm talking about. You know, 757 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: the guys who didn't have it easy, didn't have it 758 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: as ready made for them growing up. Maybe didn't have 759 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: a dad, maybe he didn't have a mom, maybe grew 760 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: up in foster care. It is a touchy subject. It's 761 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: tough because a lot of truth has been deemed controversial lately, 762 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: and this right here is just truth. Your reality is 763 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: your reality. If you're growing up in a single parent household, 764 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: it's not your fault. But at the same time, it's 765 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: not a coach's fault, it's not a teammate's fault. It 766 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: just is. It just is what it is. If it's 767 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: raining outside, it's no one's fault. It's just raining. So 768 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: you can either open an umbrella or get soaked. And 769 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: if you're growing up in that situation, or if you're 770 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: having to recruit kids, you can either acknowledge the obvious. 771 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: These are the needs I have for my defensive linemen. 772 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: And that's the group of kids who tends to have 773 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: those characteristics, or you can get a run over. You 774 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: can have a lot of nice kids who get planted 775 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: on third down because there's going to come a time 776 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: where the other team needs two yards to move the 777 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: chains and milk the clock away, and you got to 778 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: have guys that prevent them from getting those two yards. 779 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: What kind of kid do you think more likely to 780 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: prevent it? That's what Deon Sanders is saying. It's not controversial, 781 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable. It's not controversial. There are a lot of 782 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: things that are uncomfortable that aren't necessarily controversial or shouldn't be. 783 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: So when I heard it, I knew two things. I 784 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: knew number one, he's not saying anything different than a 785 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: lot of coaches think. And number two, oh boy, he 786 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: said it. He actually said, Wow, Deon Sanders just has 787 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: the leeway to say that sort of thing. I'm not 788 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: sure I would have done that segment unprovoked, unasked, but 789 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: now we had an excuse too, so we did it. 790 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: Next up from a Racine, Wisconsin, what becomes the hardest 791 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: job in the country with realignment? Does Auburn keep three 792 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: permanent games with Bama? Georgia and LSU, or does someone 793 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: else get a worse draw or does that even matter? Yes, 794 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: it matters. And the hardest job in college for football, 795 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: I've said for a while is Auburn, and I've given 796 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: you the reasons. It's harder to win at Miami of 797 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: Ohio than Auburn. However, at the same time, the expectations 798 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: aren't nearly as high at Miami of Ohio as they 799 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: are at Auburn. At Auburn, to be clear, I think 800 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: we just talked about this like twenty minutes ago. At Auburn, 801 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: to be clear, the expectation is that the donor class 802 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: gives a lot of money. The fans sell the stadium out, 803 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: They are every bit as passionate as their rivals within 804 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: the conference. Their every bit is invested. They expect the 805 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: same return on the investment, which is totally fair. The 806 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: difference is the challenge at Auburn has been disproportionately harder, 807 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: as we have spelled out, and as was spelled out 808 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: in the question. Even in the future, we're looking at 809 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: a reformatting of the SEC schedule. It looks like Auburn 810 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: may have to play Bama, LSU, and Georgia every year. 811 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: No one else is going to have that draw. So 812 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: when you balance the challenge of schedule with expectation level, 813 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone has it harder than the 814 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: head coach at Auburn. Now that happens to be Hugh 815 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: Freeze right now, and once upon a time that was 816 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: Gus Malson. And I tell you, I don't think we 817 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: can tell this story enough how crazy it is being 818 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: around the Auburn program. Every Auburn fan knows this to 819 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: be true. You can love that program, but you also 820 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: got to admit. You tell the story of Auburn football 821 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: to someone who's agnostic, who may just be a soccer fan, 822 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: and they know nothing about college football, Just tell the 823 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: story of the twenty seventeen season, just the one season, 824 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: and they would have their mind blown. How well do 825 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: you remember that? The twenty seventeen season. So it starts 826 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: and Auburn's pretty highly ranked, I think, And it didn't 827 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: start off so well so Malson. By the time they 828 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: went and played a game at LSU, Malson's on the 829 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: hot seat and it's being called a do or die game, 830 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: and he lost the game. It was like a late decision, 831 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: but he lost the game. I was there, and I 832 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: went in the postgame press conference. I've told this story before. 833 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: I go in the postgame media room for Auburn and 834 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: the media beat guys are already in there. Christy Malzon, 835 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: Gus Malson's wife is in there, and I'll never forget. 836 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: She's leaned up against the wall, and I will never forget. 837 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: I just talked to her about this this year. I 838 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: saw her on the road. I talked about this exact thing, 839 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: and trust me, she remembered every detail. She's leaned up 840 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: against the wall over there, and the guys in the 841 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: room are just openly speculating who the next coach at 842 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: Auburn is gonna be. He hasn't been fired. They're just 843 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: they're already assuming, Okay, Malson's out, and like, yeah, his 844 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: wife's standing over there, but who cares. We're just gonna 845 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: disrespectfully talk about this with an earshot of her anyway, 846 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, because he gets paid a lot of money, 847 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: so feelings don't matter. Well, Malson didn't get fired. Then 848 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: he ends up beating number one Georgia. Then two weeks 849 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: later he beats number one Alabama. This is not even 850 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: the year where you had the prayer and Jurden hair 851 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: and the kick six. This is another year that they 852 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: pulled that off. This is another year Malzon found the 853 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: way to beat both of them. So Malzon beats Georgia 854 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: number one at the time, beats Bama number one at 855 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: the times, first time anyone's ever done that. They go 856 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: to the SEC Championship Game. The week leading up to 857 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: the Championship game, there's six days between the Iron Bowl 858 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: and the SEC Championship Game. Malson and his agent Jimmy Sexton, 859 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: and mostly Jimmy Sexton pushes Auburn up against the wall 860 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: and says new contract right now. And Auburn did it. 861 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: They had no other choice because at that time, for 862 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: anyone who says that was a bad decision, at that time, 863 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: Tennessee was up in flames. That was when they were 864 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: trying to hire a new head coach. They had fired 865 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: Butch Jones and it was just a disaster. So Auburn, 866 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: on one hand, they're watching their guy who was on 867 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: the hot seat once upon a time, beat back to 868 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: back number one teams and he's going to the SEC 869 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: title game and they're thinking, if we do fire him, 870 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: who's to say we look any different than Tennessee. And 871 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: they were right, Like, what coach in their right mind 872 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: was going to take the Auburn job Seeing that the 873 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: guy who just beat back to back number one teams 874 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: they told wasn't good enough. There's no security in that job. 875 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: Why would I go there? So anyway they extend him. 876 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: That was just twenty seventeen guys. So the Auburn job 877 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: has been that way for a while, and I think 878 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be that way. It's just crazy because 879 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: like around every corner there could be anything. You never 880 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: know what's coming at Auburn. You never know this is 881 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: coming either. And we're back. I heard from the other room. 882 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: Producer Jesse says he saw the AD break toss coming, 883 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: which is we all know is of course ridiculous, but 884 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: he says he saw it coming. I just got an 885 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: eight out of ten on the out of the blue 886 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: scale on the AD toss. And I take a lot 887 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,240 Speaker 1: of pride in you not knowing when the AD toss 888 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: is coming, and I think I accomplish my mission to 889 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: But there are dissenting voices in the room. So if 890 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 1: you are riding around right now in Tacoma, Washington saying 891 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: I heard it come in. I disagree with you, but 892 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: just know that you're not alone and ultimately we're all 893 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: in this together. That's almost never the case. But if 894 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: you just say that, people can't argue with you. Okay. 895 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: Next up, Connelly hit us up and said, what's the 896 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: best place you've eaten whilst traveling for the Every Given 897 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: Saturday tour from Nashville, Tennessee. There are a lot of 898 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: contenders here, but I do have a favorite. My favorite 899 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: is a place called Wright's Barbecue up in Fayetteville, Arkansas. 900 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: And it's probably because number One, the food's great. Number 901 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: two the way we got treated up there was first 902 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: class all the way. And mind you, I had never 903 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: been to an Arkansas game before this past year, and 904 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: I'd made a big deal about it. As those of 905 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: you who watched Late Kick Live well know, or listen 906 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: to any of the pods, you well know I make 907 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: a really big deal or made a bi deal about 908 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: how how have I not gotten to an Arkansas game? 909 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: The new Arkansas is going to be Oklahoma, by the way, 910 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: how have I not been to an Oklahoma game? But anyway, 911 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: I was making a big deal about it, and the 912 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: fine folks at Arkansas they took heed, they heeded, they 913 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: headed up. They took head of my complaints that I 914 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: hadn't been up there. So finally when I announced that 915 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: I was going up there, it was great. We've never 916 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: been treated better than when we went to that Arkansas game. 917 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: They played Cincinnati week one, and even though I couldn't see, 918 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: as I have documented for you due to caffeine overdose, 919 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't really see anything. But that's okay because you 920 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: don't have to see to be able to eat. And 921 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: that's a fact, always has been, always will be. We 922 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: went to Writes Barbecue, Jordan right up there. He welcomed 923 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: us in, He loaded us up free of charge, comped everything, 924 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: didn't have to do that, comped us with basically the 925 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: entire menu. And I got to tell you Writes Barbecue 926 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: as a staple amongst the Fayetteville, the Northwest Arkansas culinary scene. 927 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: And so that line was long, and not since I 928 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: bought a flash pass at six Flags have I felt 929 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: as guilty skipping a line and going right to the 930 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: front and getting the prize At Says Flags, it's roller coasters, 931 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: it Writes barbecue. It's just all the pulled pork you 932 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: could possibly imagine and sidings and everything else. So it 933 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: was great. So I'm going to say Writes Barbecue, and 934 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: even if you're passing through town and there's not a game, 935 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: check out our friends at Writes Barbecue. Good people up there, 936 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: good staple in the community. All right. Next up had 937 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: a question that is what we would call a classic conundrum. 938 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: Me mal would call this a classic conundrum. And the 939 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: question is more it's a question, but it's just more predicament. 940 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: Here it is from Johnson City, Tennessee. My brother is 941 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: going to play at an interconference rival from my college. 942 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: How do I go about this? There is no right answer. 943 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Life's 944 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: just going to be tough for you for a little while. 945 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: I want you to picture this for a second. I 946 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: want you to just put yourself in the position of 947 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: like a Texas lifelong, die hard football fan whose brother 948 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: gets a scholarship to Oklahoma? How serious are you? And 949 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: then on the other hand, it's how thick is brotherly love. 950 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm just leaving it open ended. That's what the pause 951 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: is for. I don't have an answer. It's very much 952 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: a case by case basis, where your brother and you 953 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: close growing up, most brothers are I mean till death 954 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: do you part? Right? Well, I mean sometimes these rivalries 955 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: are kind of life and death. At least that's what 956 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: it feels like. And that's only sort of hyperbolic. Think 957 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: about the Red River shootout. 958 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 2: Think about what you feel like in not the day, 959 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: but the week leading up to that game, and all 960 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 2: of a sudden, your blood is going to defect and 961 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 2: he's going to go play for Oklahoma hoopst Is he 962 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: what gives him the right? 963 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: Well, in reality, it's his life. He can do what 964 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: he wants. But you know what you can too. You 965 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: know what you can do. You can text him the 966 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: morning of the game and say good luck, bro, I 967 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: hope you play well in an otherwise miserable afternoon for 968 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: your team. I'm not against it. I'm for it. Now. 969 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: Some people would tell you that's wrong, and some people 970 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: would tell you that it's selfish for you to care 971 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: about your own desires over the greater good of the family. 972 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: And to that I spit on it. That's what I do. Listen, 973 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: fandom is a selfish world. You don't have to appease 974 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: everyone else with your fandom. You got to appease people 975 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: in every other aspect and facet of your life, just 976 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: have them give you this one thing. And it's not 977 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: like your brother didn't grow up knowing where your allegiance 978 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: is lied. It's almost like he's testing you, because I 979 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: can virtually assure you if he had an offer from Oklahoma, 980 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: he probably had an offer from Texas. And you know, 981 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: good and well, you know as well as I do. 982 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 1: Some of these siblings out there go against the grain 983 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: just for the sake of going against the grain. Well 984 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going with you, That's what I'm saying. So 985 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: they're in Johnson City, Tennessee. I don't know what the 986 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: particular dynamic is. I don't know which side of the 987 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: rivalry you're on. I don't even know which team you 988 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: root for. But I'm telling you right now, if brother 989 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: is living his own life, forging his own path, you 990 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: forge your own path too. And if it means rooting 991 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: against the logo and his helmet on Saturdays, so be it. 992 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: Family reunions will be just the same forty years down 993 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 1: the road, no matter which color pomp on you wave. 994 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 1: What a quote? What a quote? All right, let's wrap 995 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: it up here with a question that gets a little personal, 996 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: and I don't know what the answer is going to be. 997 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: So let's see if I figure it out along the way, 998 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: we're going to jump out of the plane with no 999 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: parachute on. The question was from Denver, Colorado, and it 1000 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: was what would you be doing if you weren't working 1001 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: at CBS. I have no idea what I would be doing. 1002 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm a believer that we all have different talents in 1003 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: a abilities. No one is talentless. I believe we all 1004 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: have talents and abilities. I believe we all have passions. 1005 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: And my philosophy has always been, let's find the intersection 1006 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: of our talent and our passion. Hopefully there's a career 1007 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: or several careers there for us. Now, the reality is, 1008 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: most of the time, if you're observant enough, there are 1009 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: several career paths at the intersection of your talent and 1010 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: your passion. So I'm sure I would figure something out, 1011 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: but just off the top of my head. I am 1012 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: not like one of these folks who very very quickly says, oh, 1013 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: I'd be working at the bank my dad owns, or 1014 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: oh I'd i'd be in finance, or I'd be in 1015 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: accounting or i'd be this and that. I don't know. 1016 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: You know my backstory. You guys know where I came from. 1017 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: It is not a conventional route to get here to 1018 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: begin with. You know that my two biggest hobbies outside 1019 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 1: of this building are storm chasing and train hopping, and 1020 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 1: neither pays particularly well. So I don't know. I hope 1021 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in the fabric warehouse. Still, I hope 1022 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be making a minimum wage on a construction 1023 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: site or installing heating and air conditioning units. Still I've 1024 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: done all that. I hope I wouldn't be working in 1025 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: local news, because while it is an invaluable training ground, 1026 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: you make no money working in local news, and more 1027 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: times than not it is. It is a tough road 1028 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: to hoe, which I always thought was road, even though 1029 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: I grew up in South Georgia farming country. For some reason, 1030 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: I never knew it was rod to ho and it 1031 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: always sounded inappropriate anyway, So let's just move on. I 1032 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: don't know what I would be doing, but I guarantee 1033 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: you whatever I would be doing would not make me 1034 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: as happy as what we do right now. It is 1035 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable that you can figure out a way to get 1036 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: paid to do what we do, but I always use it. 1037 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: I love speaking to colleges, love speaking to anyone I 1038 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: can speak to, because it was foreign for so long 1039 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 1: to me, the concept that you can enjoy your job. 1040 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: Because I came up, I was never taught this. It's 1041 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: not like my parents ever sat me down and said 1042 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: your job needs to make you miserable. No one ever 1043 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: said that to me. It's just that you guys live 1044 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: life just like I do. Did anyone need to tell you? 1045 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: I guarantee you A lot of you are at jobs 1046 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: you hate right now. Does anyone need to tell you 1047 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: you're supposed to hate it? Or do you just hate it? Like, 1048 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: let's be real, I've worked jobs I hate. Some of 1049 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: you right now are working a job you hate. I 1050 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know what your situation is. I don't know how 1051 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: old you are. I'm just saying I thought that was 1052 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be the way it is for a long time. 1053 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: Your hobbies are what you do for fun, and your 1054 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: job is what you do Monday through Friday from nine 1055 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: to five, and it just sucks, and you just pray 1056 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: for the weekend to hurry up and get here. Only 1057 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: later in life, not like fifty years old or anything. 1058 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: But only a little bit later into my twenties did 1059 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: I finally realize, Wait, those people on TV are real people. 1060 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: It's actually feasible that you could do that for a living, 1061 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: and a good living. You're talking to Look, I'll be 1062 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: wide open with you. I started out making twenty six 1063 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a year in local news, and that 1064 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago, by the way, And so that's 1065 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: the salary structure I'm used to. That's the world I'm 1066 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: used to living in. I remember some of our folks, 1067 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: like on the meteorology side, when they would get up 1068 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: into the forty five to fifty k a year range. 1069 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: That was absurd to me. I mean, like other worldly 1070 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: absurd money. And I also came from Fortune, Georgia, so 1071 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: that is what it is. But all of a sudden 1072 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: you start to realize, wait, that fantasy world, that's a 1073 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: real world. You could really You got to kick, and 1074 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: you gotta fight, and you gotta punch, but you can 1075 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: work your way into that world, and not only can 1076 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: you make really really good money, you can do what 1077 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: you love to do. It's always a cliche when people say, oh, 1078 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: you need to find out what you love and do it, 1079 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: and you won't work a day in your life. I 1080 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: thought they were lying. They're not lying. That's a real thing. 1081 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: It's fortune cookie material. You might as well go to 1082 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: PF Chain's and open a fortune cookie. That's what it 1083 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: will say. But they're right, and anyone who is fortunate 1084 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: enough to experierience it, or blessed enough is the right 1085 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: term to experience it like we get to do like 1086 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: I get to do. Man, they're right. So you may 1087 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: not have this as your passion. You may not be 1088 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: talented enough to do this, but you're talented enough to 1089 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: do something that I probably suck at, and you're probably 1090 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: passionate about something I couldn't care less about. Find that 1091 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: intersection and go do it, and you may very well 1092 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 1: be asked one day what would you be doing if 1093 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: you didn't do this? And you'll probably say, I have 1094 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: no clue, because that's my answer right now. I have 1095 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: no clue. I do know this though the show is thriving. 1096 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: We actually you can't tell, but we had to stop 1097 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: recording midway through because we had a big meeting about 1098 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: a project we're working on right now. I can't tell 1099 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: you anything about it. It's sworn to secrecy, but you're 1100 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna love it, and it's just going to be a 1101 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: continuation of us getting to do new things because you 1102 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: have grown the brand to such a point that we 1103 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: actually have a portion of the company that revolves around us. Now. 1104 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: I imagine that because we didn't exist three years ago, 1105 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: two and a half years ago, we had just been 1106 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: blip on the radar screen. And now you guys have 1107 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: blown the show up to the point where I mean, 1108 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 1: we walk in the room and people notice. So we 1109 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it because it's not us, Believe me, it's you. 1110 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: You drive the bus, not us. Do me a quick favor, 1111 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: just a couple of them. Make sure you are subscribed 1112 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: to this podcast if you haven't already. When I say that, 1113 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: we get a lot of attention now it's because you 1114 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: have done those sorts of things. I will never require 1115 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: you or even ask you to do anything associated with 1116 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: this show that costs money. Ever, so everything I ask 1117 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: you to do is free subscribing, sharing the show. You know, 1118 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,479 Speaker 1: swipe in mom's phone while she's not looking, and making 1119 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: sure she's subscribed as well, because don't worry, it's not 1120 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: going to hurt her. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. Yeah, 1121 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: all that is smiled upon around here and not frowned upon. 1122 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I encourage such activity. That's about it. That's all I need. 1123 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much so. For director Colin, 1124 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: for producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so much for 1125 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: listening to the Late Extra podcast from us to you. 1126 01:00:51,880 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day and God bless