1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Late fifteen ten touched up What's Up, guys, Welcome into 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: a brand new episode of. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly at the Bolt, as always, joined by the 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: voice of the Chargers, Matt Buddy Smith. The start of 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: OTA's This Week Money, I know you were there on Tuesday. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: It was not observations, my friend. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a lot one, you know, 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: start with just I think everybody saw the highlight Ladd 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: and Herbert and that beautiful toss down the left sideline 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: that he tapped to himself. That was fun to see. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: I thought, Trey Harris, you know, a couple of his tart. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: You know, the new guys are always fun to kind 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: of just put your eyes on him. For the first time. 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: I saw him catch a go ball that was kind 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: of cool. And then you know, the Justin Herbert to 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Mike Williams reunion was fun to watch as well. I 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: don't want to leave anybody out and stuff, but you know, 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: Q was catching everything that was thrown his way. But 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: the one thing I think that probably stood out the 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: most to me was just how big the running backs 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: are when you see them clustered together. And it's a 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: different in Hampton and Sanders and it's just and Hassan, Like, dude, 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: these guys are all over two hundred and twenty pounds. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: I mean, Naji's two forty. You know, Sanders is too thirty, 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: and you just you see it. You're like, man, that's 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 3: a big group of dudes. And then you see Makai 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: Beckeden and Joe Alt standing next to each other, and 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: it's like that's a big couple of dudes, and it 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: just kind of lets you sort of imagine what this 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: thing can look like, you know, this year with some 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: of the pieces they've added, and how physical, how this 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: team wants to play physical football, and like that's just 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 3: the nucleus of it. When you look at that group 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: right there, like, okay, yeah, that that should be able 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: to play in the world of physical football. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's hard to really see a 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: ton from OTAs. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: But the theme at the press conferences was. 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: The defense, right and you from from Kim and Tarhebe 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: and coach Klink and Tony Jefferson. And the one thing 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: that kind of struck me through the forty five minutes 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: of press conferences was just Tarheb. 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: And his growth from year one to year two. 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: It seems like he's he's really kind of coach Klik said, 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: He's just a different guy from the end of the 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: season and now it's what it's end of May. Working 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: with Khalil Mack being in the weight room every single day, 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: it seems like Khalil has rubbed off on some of 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: the young guys. 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's you know, it's it's why when we 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: talked about the off season and Joey and Khalil and 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: money and how can you pay all. 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: These money and money? 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clear that like Mac means like what Mac 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: means to his team, and like that was just such 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: a cool story to illustrate it. Here's a guy that's 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: not even been here for a year, you know, that's 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: that's in the weight room and Khalil's like, why aren't 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: you in here on Friday? And it's like, why don't 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: you work out with me? And it's like that, you know, 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: talking about like I don't want to say a kid, 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: he's in his twenties, but you know what I mean, 63 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: like a second year player and now here's this future 64 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer and one of the greatest players of 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: his era that's got his arm around you, and it's like, hey, man, 66 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: let's go. And I think that to what coach kling 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Scale was talking about, that rubs off, right, and that 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: helps you become more of a professional. And like when 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: he said, tar Heep's kind of turning into a leader 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: in that room now, and it's like, yeah, that's that's 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: sort of the Khalil Mack effect. And based on the 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: way he played last year makes sense, Like yeah, I mean, 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: you know, I played his tail off, played great, has 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: some huge moments and some big games, and obviously you know, 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: feels like he's ready to do that based on how 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: he played. So it's you know, I think the one 77 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: thing I took away most from all those pressers was 78 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: just how tough it's going to be for some of 79 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: these guys. You know that, and by that I mean 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: like to make the team like that is a competitive 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: deep room, you know. And I know we've talked about 82 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: this before with like blue chip versus depth, and but 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: just like the depth of that room, man, there's there's 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: guys that are that are you know, maybe not gonna 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: make the initial fifty three, that that are going to 86 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: get scooped up like that because of how deep that 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: room is. 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to make the team on special 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: teams and coming up, we have a great conversation with 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: with Ryan Ficken. 91 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: You guys are not gonna want to miss that. 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: But it also goes back to just kind of having 93 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: vets in the room that you can lean on and 94 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: coach Klink talked about how Darwin James is the reason 95 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: he gets up in the morning to coach a guy 96 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: like that, to have coach herb in the weight room, Khalil. 97 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Having a guy like Tony Jefferson, right. 98 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Tony is the consummate pro was 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: out of the game for a year. Talked about just 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: kind of getting his body back in shape, but also 101 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: being a scout slash coach and being a resource for 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: some of these guys in the secondary. 103 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony said, best man. That was a really fun 104 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: presser just to hear his For those that didn't hear it, 105 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: you should check it out. Just watch it. And it's 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: tirety on the Chargers dot Com. He's such a great guy, 107 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: such a thoughtful person and someone who's been around the 108 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: game as long as he has. And you know, he 109 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: talked about what Ben Herbert meant him and we heard 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: this coming in, right, We heard that when when coach 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Harbaugh was hired that he was adamant that that Herb 112 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: had to come with him. And you know, and and 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 3: you heard from J. J. Watt, you know, and saying 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: what coach Herbert meant to him at the University Wisconsin 115 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: and how important he was. And then you hear Tony 116 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: Jefferson say, man, I was out of football. I wasn't 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: going to make this team. And now he's standing at 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: the lectern talking about how I'm in a completely different headspace, 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: like my body's different, I feel different, I'm I'm a 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: football player, you know. And I think last year he's 121 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: coming off a year of scouting and thinking about walking 122 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: away from the game, and now he's like, dude, I 123 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: got to figure out how to make this team. And 124 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: because that's what he was talking about, how deep the 125 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: room is and how competitive the room is. And to me, 126 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: you think about what he meant and when he was 127 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: called upon how well he played in a couple of 128 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: those games, you know, not just the preseason game against Dallas, 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: been in the regular season, and it's like, man, that 130 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: just contributes to it, you know, because you obviously have 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: when you draft, you know, Mickens now you've got Mickens, Molden, 132 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Gilman Derwin. Now you're gonna add you know, Tony to 133 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: that mix. Yeah, five in the safety room, man, And 134 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: then you look at the corners and you signed Dante 135 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: Jackson and Saint just and of course you have Cam 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Tarheb and then you've got John Dean Leonard. Like, man, 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: that's that's a freaking tough nut to crack to try 138 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: to make this fifty three. 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: But it speaks to Tony's perseverance too, because he admitted 140 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't in shape in mini camp. He got of 141 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: worked himself into shape. That's why he played almost every 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: snap in that Dallas game, and he had to wait 143 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: his turn in the regular season, but sure enough it came. 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: So it's about kind of being ready for your moment 145 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: and playing different positions. You're right, the presser was great 146 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: because he also said jesse Minch was a genius. And 147 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: I was put on to jesse Minzer before a lot 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: of you guys were because of their time in Baltimore. 149 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: So I do think that it's worth listening to every 150 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: minute of that press Come. 151 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned Bridges by the way for the corner room, Like, 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: think about that that's seven. That's seven dudes, you know, 153 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: and that's it's a great thing. Like I think about 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: sort of where where we've been in in this particular 155 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: moment going into a season, and just like, man, this 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: guy goes down what they you know, and now it's 157 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: just like the depth on this team you feel so 158 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: good about, you know, that room and if if somebody 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: God forbid, you know, gets hurt, okay, let's you know, 160 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: now you got this person to put in there, you know, 161 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: defensive line. It's like, yeah, you know, you unfortunately lose Poona, 162 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: but you draft cald Well, you bring in Jones, you 163 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: bring in Hand, You've got Tito, You've like you bring 164 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: back Tier. Like there's just depth. And that's the other 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: thing that kind of jumped out to me at OTA's 166 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: is I was watching the tight End group and I'm 167 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: just like, man, look at these dudes, like watching Tyler 168 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: Conklin just run seam routes and snatch Herbert threw him 169 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: a laser and he just snatched it straight out of 170 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: the air. There was you know, I know I'm rambling here, 171 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: but Omarion had this this just quick out and you 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: just had real good suddenness in his break and as 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: he turned around that ball was on him and just 174 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: to see him snatch it and immediately get upfield, it's like, oh, 175 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: this looks this looks different. It looks like this looks 176 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: this looks a little bit different. This year with Conklin 177 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: and Gadsden catching some of those balls and the way 178 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: Hampton look catching that ball, it's like, I think about 179 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: what that was last year, just that those that particular 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: group and what it looks like now man, And it's. 181 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, a year ago, money we were we 182 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: were excited about Hayden Hurst because he did look good 183 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: in the all season and just injuries kind of he 184 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: had an injury renal season, was not able to be 185 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: on the field, and you know, Will Disley was kind 186 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: of put into situations that aren't necessarily his strengths. 187 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: But he had a great year. But now you add. 188 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: Gadsden and Conklin to the Disleey room, it's just it's 189 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: gonna look different. You're one year two. You know again, 190 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: if you told us on May thirtieth last year that 191 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: we'd be talking about cam Harten Tar, he's still the 192 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: way we're talking about them right now as potential starters 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: on a on a team that were, you know, their 194 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: fifth round picks last year. Cam Hart was was great 195 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: as well. You know, he kind of had an injury 196 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: riddled rookie year, but he showed the necessary flashes and 197 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: if he can play seventeen games and he got a really, 198 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: really tough sick secondary. 199 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's a big one and there's a reason 200 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: why I slipped to the fifth round. And that was it. 201 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: You know, he's a guy that dealt with injuries throughout 202 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: his entire time at Notre Dame. And no one's doubting 203 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: the talent. You see the size, I mean, my gosh, 204 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: he's huge, you know for playing corner. You see how 205 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: fearless he is and how aggressive he is. And you 206 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: know what coach Minner told us, you know he wants 207 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: to do and what he preferred to do. I mean, 208 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: cam Hart fits right into that. So him staying healthy 209 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: and that was something coach Clean Scales talked about as well, 210 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: is you know, let's doing stuff off the field that 211 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: you take care of your body to make sure you know, 212 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: you can be available for seventeen So of course they're 213 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: all then nobody wants to get hurt, you know, and 214 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: you hope that there's a way that he can stay healthy, 215 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: because if he can, he's a heck of a player, man, 216 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: no doubt. So yeah, I'm just trying to think of 217 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: some other things I was watching because I had a 218 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: very great vantage point. I was up on the second 219 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: floor balcony doing my radio show, so I had a 220 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: chance to just kind of see everything from above and 221 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: I could just follow with my binoculars all the different groups, 222 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: which was really fun to be able to do. Justin 223 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: looks a lot bigger, for sure. You can kind of 224 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: see it the way he's kind of put together, and 225 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: that was so it was fun to watch him. I 226 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: saw Jamari kind of working some of the drills with 227 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: the pads and you know, getting low and coming out 228 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: from underneath the tarp there and you can see everything 229 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: that we saw on film at Houston, and sort of 230 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: the quick feet an organ as well. He's a big dude, 231 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: so that was fun to see. And then of course 232 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: the offensive line that was kind of an income. You know, 233 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: that's the grade you give there is incomplete. Rashan wasn't there, 234 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: and it looked like they were doing some stuff with 235 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Zion on the side, so it was kind of hard 236 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: to piece together. How that thing's going to look outside 237 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: of you know, Mackai and Joe on that right side. 238 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incomplete. 239 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: I think Poper in his observation's heads like Taylor and 240 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Jamar Sawyer as the starting five. 241 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sall your left tackle and and Branson Taylor 242 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: is the left guard for a while, and it's. 243 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Like, I don't think that's what it's gonna be in Brazil. 244 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 245 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Last thing before we get to coach fick In is 246 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: that you know, again a year ago, it's very rare 247 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: to see a strength coach get at the podium and 248 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: talk for twenty five minutes. 249 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: Coach Harb is as advertised. 250 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: We talked about him all year, and it's just every 251 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: guy you talk to, from a young guy like Tarheb 252 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: to a grizzled bit like Tony like they swear by coach. 253 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: Harp Yeah, no doubt and and look, it's it's important, 254 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's a cliche for a reason. 255 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: The best abilities availability, and that's what he's tasked with, 256 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: and it's very hard to it's a very hard job 257 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: considering how violent the game is and the attrition is 258 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: a very real part of it. But based on how 259 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: the players you know, talk about him, it's a true advantage. 260 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a real win that this franchise has 261 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: maybe over some other organizations because you know, he's still 262 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: he's here and he's here again for another year and 263 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: it's another year in his program, and you see the 264 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: participation out here and a lot of the guys saying, 265 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I was around here working out with Herb 266 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: a lot in the off season, and I think that 267 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: just speak You think about how many of these guys 268 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: go home and they want to be with their trainers, 269 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, like Tony was saying, you know, and his presser, 270 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, my trainer told me to take some 271 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: time off and I was like, I can't take I 272 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: gotta go. I'm ready to go. I gotta and you know, 273 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: and he was talking about working here with with Herbs. 274 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: So it's it is it's great to see because I 275 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: think that just builds more and more camaraderie and you know, 276 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: cohesiveness and guys being together. So you know, for Khalil 277 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: instead of working out at home with his personal trainer, 278 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: because he certainly has the money and he's been in 279 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: it long enough to probably have his own guy. It's like, no, 280 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here with herb And now I've got 281 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, Tar, You've still under my shoulder, and I've 282 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: got an opportunity to show this young man the way. 283 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: And and I think that just speaks to the culture 284 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: that that coach Harbaugh has created with all these other coaches, 285 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: that guys want to be around here and look at it. 286 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to be here? My gosh, you knows 287 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: where else you're gonna go. You gonna go plan fitting 288 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: them and that and say that I don't Yeah, I 289 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: don't know who's who's paying the bills. So this place 290 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: is great. I'll leave it there. 291 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: Imagine if you're Tarhe and you say, hey, I'll see 292 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: you on Monday. 293 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Khalil says, why Yeah, why are you going to Thursday? 294 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: Tomorrow? 295 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Friday to Friday. Sorry, let's go see tomorrow. Yeah, good idea. 296 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Hey, we've had a blast talking all these coaches. And 297 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: we talked to Jesse mitter you and Jalil did a 298 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: month ago. 299 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 4: Uh uh. 300 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Jill Hortiz a couple of weeks ago, uh. 301 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: Coming up a fantastic conversation with Special Teams coordinator Ryan Ficken. 302 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, guys, has promised. 303 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: Ryan Ficken joins us on Chargers Weekly and coach, appreciate 304 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: your time. 305 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. How is the opening week of OTA 306 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: has been for you? 307 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: Man? 308 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: That's been great. 309 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: I mean it's just getting out on the grass with 310 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 5: these guys, you know, kind of getting a flow and 311 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: just being around everyone right now has been a lot 312 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: of fun. And uh, I just enjoy being out there 313 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 5: with the coaching staff and the players and just eager 314 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: to continue to look forward to OTA number three tomorrow. 315 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: It feels like, you know, with with young players, you know, 316 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 3: you're you're the guy that's that's got to get these 317 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: guys in here, get them rolling. So what's it like 318 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: every year you hear all this guy could could make 319 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: the team on special teams when you bring in all 320 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: these undrafted free agents, all the draft picks, and what's 321 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,239 Speaker 3: your process and kind of getting them sort of acclimated 322 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: to what you want them to do for special teams. 323 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's just getting everyone on the 324 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: same page first and foremost, you know, give them the 325 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: reality check that everyone here at this level they got 326 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: to play special teams. They got to find a way 327 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: to increase their value in some form of fashion, whether 328 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: it be a quarterback and he's got to be a 329 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 5: holder to where it's d tackles, where they got to 330 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: be on field goal block and some pun return stuff. 331 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: They got to find a way to increase their value 332 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: in some form of fashion. But again starting at the 333 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: very basics and starting with the foundation. You know, who 334 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: we are as a unit, what we want to be, 335 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: what our goals are going to be for this upcoming year, 336 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: and making sure that we set that foundation with what 337 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: the roles are and so they can go ahead and 338 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: help our team, you know, be successful this year. 339 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: You know you kind of have that baseline. 340 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: You talk about a guy like like Nickens who played 341 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: a lot of special teams at Clemson, and then KeAndre 342 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: who didn't play much special teams, it all burned. How 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: do you go into an off season, especially with rookies, 344 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: knowing that some may have more experience on special teams 345 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: than others and get that player or players who don't 346 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: have as much experience on special teams up to speed. 347 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts with meetings with all that meaning with 348 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: these guys, these guys have been great. I mean they're 349 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 5: coming up to our offices, eager to learn more. So 350 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: just in terms of the nuances of the rules with 351 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: Special teams, it's it's completely different than it was with 352 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: college and so just like say the kickoff kickoff return rules, 353 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 5: So really get getting a baseline and a foundation for 354 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: these guys. And I'm assuming that they don't know anything 355 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: about it because they don't in terms of this type 356 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: of rules that they're going to be in the speed 357 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: of Special Teams. But these guys have been phenomenal. They 358 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 5: are eager to learn, you know, Canard has been you know, 359 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: a great want and to always meet you know, Mickens, 360 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: all the young guys, even you look at the Trey Harrison, 361 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: Lamarin Hampton, they're really just how can we help this 362 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: team be successful? 363 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: And so that. 364 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: Makes our job a little bit easier at their eagerness 365 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: and willingness to be able to do more, which we 366 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: were very appreciative of. 367 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: What, uh, I guess there's a lot of different ways 368 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: you can answer this, but but what goes into making 369 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: a great Special Teams player? Because you've had some good ones. 370 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: I think Nick Name and who just left, you know, 371 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: seemingly was always in the right spot at the right time, 372 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: like what is it that that goes into that that 373 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: that makes these players like a Matthew Slater, who year 374 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: in and year out is at the top of you know, 375 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: sort of the class of of you know, what are 376 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: they doing differently than everybody else? 377 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's the willingness in them embracing 378 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: the role, you know, understanding, hey, I'm not just the 379 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: linebacker or for you know, Matthew Slayer's spot. He was 380 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: a football player. I mean he was you know, I 381 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: coached him at UCLA back when he was in college, 382 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: and you know, he was a track guy, and he 383 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: was he could do anything and everything he was on 384 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: offense and defense. But just finding out which role is 385 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: in embracing that and that role and how we can 386 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: help this team win. And I think that's what makes 387 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: a great you know, special teams or a good special 388 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: teams player into. 389 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: A great one. 390 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 5: Just that desiring effort and this disciplined, be great you 391 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: know after role. And then obviously the physical traits you know, 392 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 5: you like to have, you know, the guys that have 393 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 5: you know, some kind of dynamic trade and elite trade, 394 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: and then that's for us to go ahead and continue 395 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 5: to build on those traits put them in those positions 396 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: to be successful, but then also continue to develop the 397 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: other traits that we need to go ahead and make 398 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 5: them a well rounded player. 399 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: You know. 400 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Coach, what I think is so cool about your career 401 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL is that you're in Minnesota for as 402 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: long as you were, but you span three different coaching staffs, right, 403 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: so you head with Childress, Frasier and Zimmer and then 404 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Staley and Hardball here you've been that constant, right, So 405 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: these new administrations, they want you to stay a part 406 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: of their culture and what they're doing. How do you 407 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: balance kind of being authentically you because obviously there's a 408 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: reason why they want you, and kind of adapting to 409 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: different coaching stats and different styles of doing things. 410 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 5: I think it's like you hit it. I mean, you've 411 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: got to be yourself, you know, first and foremost. You 412 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: can't try and be someone else, you know, And I 413 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 5: also believe, you know, always learning from these coaches. I mean, 414 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: these coaches have been successful, you know at their trade, 415 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: and uh, it's very important that I learned and take 416 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: something from each of them and try to better my 417 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: game with that. But just to be able to make 418 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: us a well rounded special Teams unit and a better 419 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: team with that. But I very appreciative all the coaches, uh, 420 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 5: you know, being able to learn under you know, it's 421 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 5: been a blessing with that. And then you look at 422 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 5: the current regime now just the experience and how much 423 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: success they have had, uh and being able to adjust 424 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: and and uh, you know, implement what they're trying to 425 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 5: achieve too. And you know, I think it's just being 426 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: willing to want to learn and continue to improve. 427 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: This could be an incredibly dumb question, but I'm gonna 428 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: ask not anyway, And. 429 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: And Armies, there are no dumb questions. 430 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: Is is there one? Is there one that's harder to 431 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: teach than the others? Field goal, kick, kick return, punt, 432 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: punt return? Is there one that that needs to be 433 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: specifically more technical? 434 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 4: You know, I think there's a bunch of nuances with 435 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: a lot of them. 436 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: You know, you could talk about from position specific with 437 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 5: the specialists, uh to the holder. I mean, the other 438 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 5: people just see the you know, the snap, the hole, 439 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: the kick and operation in one point three seconds. But 440 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: there's a lot of you know, details that those guys 441 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: you don't have to work daily. And that's why the professionals, 442 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: and they make it look seamless and easy out there. 443 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: But I think it's it's more of the situations in 444 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 5: terms of the phase of what makes them difficult in 445 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 5: the game flow, uh, that you have to deal with 446 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 5: because say field goal, you're dealing with, you know, different 447 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: type of athletes and that place happening one point three 448 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: seconds as opposed the punt pont return is going to 449 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 5: be a little bit you know longer obviously from snap 450 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 5: to pont to end of the play. But I would 451 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 5: say to answer your question, uh, just going off of 452 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 5: what the new rules are kickoff, kickoff return, learning that 453 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 5: because it's essentially you know, when I was on offense, 454 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: it's like say, hey guys, this is power right now. 455 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: This is gonna be a new run play. 456 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: Here, and just teaching a complete different scheme, different techniques 457 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 5: where you're learning on as you go and through experience. 458 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 5: So I would say a kickoff kickoff return to answer 459 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 5: your question. But they all have their you know, the 460 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: little piece that makes it difficult and challenging, which I 461 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 5: don't say difficult, but challenging, which I really enjoy. 462 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: You know that part of special teams. 463 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: You know, for us, it's been a joy to get 464 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: to know Cameron Dicker on and off the field. 465 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of kickers, it just. 466 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 2: Seems like when the stakes are the highest, he is 467 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: the most calm. What's it like being in a room 468 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: with Cameron Dicker and what attributes does he have as 469 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: a kicker that you think really separates him? 470 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing. 471 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 5: Obviously he's talented, we can see that with his leg 472 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: strength and his accuracy, but I think it's the mental part. 473 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: He's always willing to work. He has zero ego. This 474 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: guy attacks every day that he wants to get better. 475 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 5: But he's a true professional, and I think he is 476 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 5: a professional, you know way before he was actually a 477 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: rookie because he came in here so mature, understand understands 478 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: his craft, knows you know, he's going to continue to improve. 479 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: But I just love his mind makeup and the way 480 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: he goes ahead and approaches the game. How Again, like 481 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 5: I said that, he doesn't have any ego and what 482 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 5: he's out there, he's just trying to go ahead and 483 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: you know, help this team win by kicking those balls 484 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: to the field will post and then obviously on kickoffs 485 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 5: to help so with field position. But he's I learned 486 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: it every day from this guy. I mean, the way 487 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: he approaches the game. You know, it's been a true 488 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: blessing with that. 489 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: Do you do you have like an idea I would have? Again, 490 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm asking the dumbest questions. Man, does 491 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: each stadium do you have a range? Like, Hey, we're 492 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: hit Arrowhead, this is where I think his range is. 493 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: Now we're at Ford Field, and now I think this 494 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: is what? Like what is it like? And how much 495 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 3: goes into all of that kind of determining where you 496 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: think the border is of where you're comfortable saying, yeah, coach, 497 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: let's let's go ahead try that field goal here. No. 498 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: No, that's a great question, and a lot of it 499 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: comes with situational football where you are in the game, 500 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 5: you know, because I know Dicker can go ahead and 501 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: make him from you know, where we go ahead him 502 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 5: out there and he's going to attack it like hey, 503 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 5: this might be other side of the ranch. He's he's 504 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: gonna attack and he's going to go ahead and you know, 505 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 5: put it through there. But yeah, it's all about the situation. 506 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 5: If you're outdoors, obviously, the wind, the type of wind 507 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: where it is in the game. If you know, if 508 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: you attempt a long field goal for so whatever reason, 509 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 5: it doesn't go through and you're given. 510 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: Up field position. 511 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: So I think the spread situation is going to depend 512 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 5: on how far you challenge them. And that was game 513 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 5: winning situations off. So you can go ahead and you 514 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: got the journaline going, and you can go ahead, and 515 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 5: the stress it a little bit more stretch. It's more 516 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: indoors obviously the flight. But uh, he hit such a 517 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: true ball and he does a great job with his approach, 518 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: and you just have so much confidence in him, you know, 519 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: with myself, but the organization and you know, so I 520 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: think he makes our g our jobs a lot easier. 521 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: You know, a special teams play can can flip everything. 522 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: And I just I go back to last year Thursday 523 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: night football, I guess the Denver Broncos right before the half, 524 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: when seemingly everything was going the opposite way, that one 525 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: moment which we haven't ever really seen happens. Take me 526 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: through that moment for you and just what that was 527 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: like for your unit in the team in general, and 528 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: how that kind of was a springboard to win that game. 529 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 5: No, I mean, first and foremost I was more excited 530 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: just because of it did help our team win a 531 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: game and it changed that momentum. And that's what we 532 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 5: talked about. One of our core philosophies is you know, 533 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: either be a momentum answer guy or a team or 534 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 5: you know, making sure we do a great job creating 535 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 5: momentum for our team and then that phase right there, 536 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: I think we did a great job creating a momentum 537 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: for our team going into halftime and coming out in 538 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: the second half and a completely different ballgame. But you 539 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 5: know that is our role where a one play series, 540 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: which we got to go ahead and do that. But 541 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 5: in that situation, it's always those situations we got to 542 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 5: make sure we always prepare for. We will talk about 543 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: o tas we'll hit it. We'll do it in training camp, 544 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 5: and then once a season hits we cover once a week, 545 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: and then we make sure we walk through those situations 546 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: once a week because you could do it where it's 547 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: every quarterly or once a year, like, oh, we already 548 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 5: covered it. But the way our roster changes now, as 549 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: with practice squad and how you can elevate guys, you 550 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 5: almost have to cover it every every week with a 551 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: walk through because guys might play different positions, and and 552 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: just the nuances, the little intricacies of that rule with 553 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 5: it's a different kind of alignment with the kickoff, you know, 554 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: different with the kickoff return. The clock start starts at 555 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 5: a different time, it doesn't start, you know, rymony catches it. 556 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 5: So it has to be a perfect, you know, situation 557 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 5: in which you know occurs. So in that situation, the 558 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: answer question was, you know it is a pun return 559 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: in which you know there's amount of time on the 560 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 5: clock in which if you go ahead and fair catch 561 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: right there, and you go ahead and go with the 562 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: free kick, you got to make sure that clock expires 563 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: on the free kick, so they don't have an opportunity 564 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: right there. So I just take my hats off to 565 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 5: all of our players because they are dialed in. They 566 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: were ready to go. It doesn't matter how much you 567 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 5: go ahead and talk about it, but they accept the challenge. 568 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: They knew about it. So all my hats off to 569 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 5: those guys and going out and executing, you know, with 570 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: starting with the part return part where d D fair 571 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: catching it and I know you got the pilody. However, 572 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: if he doesn't fair catch a certain that ball, or 573 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 5: if he tries to return it, that situation does not occur, 574 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 5: so him having an awareness, you know, that was gonna 575 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: be a fair catch situation. So then our guys going 576 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 5: out there and getting a ligne correctly for the kickoff, 577 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: and just the nuances where you're bringing JK. Scott out 578 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: there as the holder, which now you don't have a 579 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: holder on kickoff anymore because of you know, everyone's at 580 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: the forty yard line. 581 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: The holder will be the actual punter as a twelfth guy. 582 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: But in that situation, he's coming out there and now 583 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 5: you got to bump the number two and number three 584 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: outside of the number. 585 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: So a lot of different rules. 586 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: But if those guys didn't go ahead and take you know, 587 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 5: full responsibility, accountability throughout the weeks and the meetings when 588 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 5: we cover those and would have been able to be 589 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: successful because the guy would have been misaligned, and then 590 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 5: we would have been like, oh what if you know? 591 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: So I'm just happy for those guys to help our 592 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: team win. But what I love though the most thing 593 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: out of anything. I mean, we got the W but 594 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 5: you know, coach was fired up. He made sweatshirts for 595 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: the whole all the guys that are on the on 596 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: the field and the cartoon figure. So that was that 597 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: was pretty cool. 598 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: That was really cool. 599 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: You mentioned JK a long time ago. I'm not gonna 600 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: say names or years or anything, but there were some 601 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: complaints about the holder that that was maybe an issue 602 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: what what goes in and how hard is it to 603 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: be a good holder and what kind of work does 604 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: JK put in to do that, because it certainly seems 605 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: like that whole operation is just dialed. 606 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: No, they do. 607 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 5: I mean, we got three great guys, you know, veteran 608 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: guys that but they attack every day, you know where 609 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: it's They want to get better and they want each 610 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 5: other to have success too. So that's what I love 611 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 5: about these three is, you know Josh. Obviously, it starts 612 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: with Josh as being our leader for not just our specialists, 613 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 5: but he's the leader for our core special teams unit. 614 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: And uh so it starts with him. And but they 615 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: all want success for you know, for Dicker. They all 616 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: want success for JK when he's punning it, and they 617 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: all three of them are those two the punter Kickers 618 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 5: definitely want success for Josh as well. So that's what 619 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 5: I love about them. But going with the holding, I mean, 620 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: there's a lot of interacies to it in which h 621 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: JK does a great job. 622 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 4: He works at it. 623 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 5: Him and Dick are always working, you know, together and 624 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 5: making sure they go ahead and find tune and everything 625 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: and depend on the win until they're always over communicating 626 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 5: with one another, you know how they like it. And 627 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: I think JK is a really good holder and he's 628 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 5: been great and and that's that's part of his value. 629 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 5: Not he's not just a punter. But you switch out punters, 630 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: then you also got to switch out holders and you 631 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 5: change the whole dynamic of everything. And uh, and there's 632 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 5: some growing pains with some of that stuff. But that's 633 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: why he has such great tremendous value for this organization, 634 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 5: not because he can hit a five to six punt, 635 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: but also because he's a really good holder as well. 636 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Money alluded to this at the beginning. 637 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: You know, during the off season in training camp, Man, 638 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: you're one of the most important coaches in this building 639 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: because all these guys are trying to make the team. 640 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: On special teams. 641 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: When you have so many players probably knocking on your 642 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: door trying to figure out how they can make the team, 643 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: how does your job and your role in the offseason 644 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: change versus the regular season. It seems like you're gonna 645 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: have so many guys that you have to talk to 646 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: in the offseason about potentially making the team versus then 647 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: you finally get the squad on the field. 648 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's first and foremost is making sure 649 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: we lay that foundation, uh and understand what their expectations are, 650 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: how they're going to help our team win football games. 651 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 5: And that's the biggest goal, you know, and everything and 652 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: and just making sure that we put them in situations 653 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 5: to be successful, you know. So we want to make 654 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: sure that, you know, we call at that time to 655 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: meet with these guys they come up. You know, we'll 656 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: have a meeting here, coming up here with a bunch 657 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 5: of guys that just want to get some extra work 658 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 5: and just watch tape and just and a lot of 659 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 5: times when it's outside of the ours, you have accountability 660 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: within the organization. 661 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: Those leaders, leaders like Josh Harris, you. 662 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 5: Know, Lohi Gilman, it was Nick nam And and Troy Die 663 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: you know, where they'll run those meetings together, you know, together, 664 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: so they're all on the same page. So it's about 665 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: creating that foundation first and foremost, and right now we 666 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 5: are laying that foundation which we've got to make sure 667 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: we do a great job with and that starts with 668 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 5: you know, obviously us as the coaches, but the player. 669 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 5: But and then we got to build off that once 670 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 5: we get into training camp. If we can't be great 671 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: at something, there's no way we're going to go ahead 672 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 5: in advance like two point zero and three point oher 673 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: in terms of what we're trying to do. So we 674 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: got to make sure we're great at something so we 675 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: can hang our hat on it and then continue. 676 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: To build as we go in and put this thing together. 677 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: How does it work with you and the rest of 678 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: the coaching staff when it comes to a player that 679 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: might be elevated to you know, a starter and it's 680 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: going to be getting more. I think about tu Lee 681 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: and you know where he may end up and watching 682 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: in OTAs the other day saw him out there with you. 683 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: But but what is that conversation like and what special 684 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: team snaps might take out of somebody that may be 685 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: elevated to play in more snaps on either offense or defense, 686 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: and how that affects you and your squad. 687 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a great question because what it 688 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: affects in different kinds of ways too. And now obviously 689 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: with say injuries, but you know, first and foremost is 690 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 5: we want to make sure we go ahead and develop 691 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: these guys where we want them to become starters, you know, 692 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: on offense, defense. And like I give a case in 693 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: point where we had Adam Thielen. He was a tryout 694 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: guy back in Minnesota. He wasn't drafted. He was now 695 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: a free agent signing. He came to a rookie mini 696 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: camp and tried out, and he stuck around on special teams. 697 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: He created his value on special teams. 698 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: First and foremost he developed, uh you know, he got 699 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: better as a wide receiver, allowed him and gave him 700 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 5: some time to continue to work his craft as a 701 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: wide receiver. And then once he got those opportunities as 702 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: a wide receiver, because special teams kind of gave him 703 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: that time to go ahead and get to that spot, 704 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 5: he took off. And we know what he is as 705 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 5: a wide receiver. I mean he was running the punt team, 706 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 5: blocking field goals and punts, you know, as on special teams. 707 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: And then now he's just an elite receiver and he 708 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 5: knows he'll and he'll tell you like I would always 709 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 5: have him. Talk to our special teams here and especially 710 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 5: the young guys. Hey, you know, here's a guy that 711 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: you know was in those seats and learned, and so 712 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 5: you know that that's the big thing in terms of 713 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 5: you know, developing, I think with those guys as we 714 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: you know, walked through and put these guys together. But 715 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 5: to answer your question in terms of like the two 716 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: of you, the starters, we got to be able to 717 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 5: adapt because once they get to the starter and that 718 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 5: it's like, all right, Mitt's take something off your plate, 719 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: maybe almost everything. 720 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: The role's changed. 721 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: And now these younger guys they've seen him do it, 722 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 5: they've seen how great of a job he's done it. 723 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 5: Now those it's time for those guys to take over. 724 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 5: And that's part of the foundation of having it. And 725 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: I know, again a long wind on this one, but 726 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 5: with ssayk injuries, they say, a running. 727 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: Back goes down. 728 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, knock on wood, someone goes down and it's not 729 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: like the runn back room. But all right, the next 730 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 5: running backs up. You know, we'll go next guy, he's up, 731 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 5: he's going. 732 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: All right. 733 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 5: So with us, that's going to change about four different 734 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 5: depth charts because and that might be now a linebacker 735 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 5: fulfills his role on punt and maybe a safety fulfills 736 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 5: his role on kickoff. So different position groups that are 737 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: all interchangeable. But the end of the day, it's all 738 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: of them and guys collectively, what do we got to 739 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 5: do to go ahead and get the job done? And 740 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: all my hat, my hat's all off for these players 741 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: because they embrace that and they do a great job. 742 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Mentioned the coaches that you worked for, but you also said, 743 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, you learn from guys like Cameron Dicker and 744 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: you just mentioned Adam Thielen. 745 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: You worked with Adrian Peterson early in your career. 746 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Who are some of the players that have really had 747 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: an indelible impact on your career that you've taken stuff 748 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: from you can really apply to, you know, some of. 749 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: The guys here. 750 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'll say one that comes off in 751 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 5: my mind right now was Marcus Shows as a punk returner. 752 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: I have' you know, worked with him extensively with him 753 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 5: being a punk return he's the you know, leading punk 754 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: returner and biking history right now, and he was a 755 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 5: tryout as well, was never drafted, but just talking about mechanics, 756 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: what he sees to say at Cordero Patterson, the way 757 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: he returns, you know, to Randy Moss when I was 758 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: working with wide receivers, and the way he approached the game, 759 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 5: the way he studied the game, how he could talk 760 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: about offense and defense of the opponent. 761 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: Uh, and just his knowledge of the game was was unbelievable. 762 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: But the Adrian Peterson's explosive this, but there will be 763 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 5: guys where I'll put while learning, like a Terrence Newman 764 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: on punk return. He was playing corner for us, and 765 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: there was this little step that made sense to me, 766 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 5: and we called it the Terrence Newman step. It's just 767 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: a quick little six inch step inside right there, just 768 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: to go ahead and you know, just make sure we're 769 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 5: still down the tempo and and right then and there, 770 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, that's I'm not it's not 771 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 5: my mine more. It's the Terrence Newman step now. And 772 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: so that kind of carries way though then with these 773 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: other guys, when the young guys like, well now, I 774 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: got to kind of say, hey, maybe maybe they don't 775 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: know some of these guys now, but anyways they're like, hey, yeah, 776 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 5: Terrence Summan, he's all, you know, Hall of Famer. 777 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: He became late in his career. 778 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and just something if we can learn from these 779 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 5: guys because they've been in those positions, they've learned, and 780 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: I would be naive and ignorant if I didn't learn 781 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: from them. I don't think I'll be doing the players, 782 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 5: you know, the satisfaction tick, go ahead and approve them, 783 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 5: because I think that's my my job as well, is 784 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 5: you know, make sure we put him in those positions 785 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: to be successful. But you know we can go ahead 786 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 5: and help. Hey, if that works for you, let's see 787 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 5: how it might be able to work for other people too. 788 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: So we saw him a lot more returns last year, 789 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: but I think we you know, in my opinion, I 790 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: felt like we saw a lot more touchbacks and I 791 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: thought we were going to with it being at the thirty, 792 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: just with the new kickoff, with the dynamic kickoff, how 793 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: you assess giving a team the ball at the thirty 794 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: versus trying to drop that thing right in there to 795 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: be returned and you know the potential plus landing it 796 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: in the landing zone. And there's a lot that goes 797 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: into it of how you determine you want to attack 798 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: that has that changed it all from last year to 799 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: this year with them now tweaking the rules even further. 800 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, And I think you could see the 801 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 5: change in the way people attacked it in the philosophy 802 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: change midway through the year last year, just the way 803 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 5: they would approach the game and situations of it. The 804 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: drives start being almost average on the thirty and when 805 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 5: you include the touchbacks and at that as well. But 806 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 5: you know, I know it was slightly lower than the 807 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: thirty when you actually challenge them on the kickoffs, but 808 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 5: they also had the risk in terms of the big returns. 809 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: And that's for anything and everything. But I think this 810 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 5: rule is great for the game. I think it's great 811 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: for the players as well the fans. It's more exciting 812 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 5: now you'd be able to see these guys play. And 813 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: then these players get to have the opportunity to go 814 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 5: ahead and cover kicks or make plays on kickoff return 815 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: and you see that their value be like a nickname 816 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 5: in his you know, he had great value, adding nice contracts, 817 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 5: you know, coming out of here, and I was very 818 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 5: happy for him. 819 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 4: So you know, you like to you you. 820 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 5: Root for those guys those situations as opposed well, if 821 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 5: it's just touchbacks. 822 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: And it's kind of a dead play. 823 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 5: So I think it's an exciting for the NFL, you know, 824 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 5: as we go ahead and approach it, and yeah, I 825 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 5: think there will be there's definitely gonna have to be 826 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 5: posh philosophy. Uh, philosophy changes in terms of you know, 827 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 5: going into this year because of the drive start now 828 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 5: being the thirty five on a touchback, and so yeah, 829 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: you're going to have put more balls in play and 830 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 5: more challenging kicks that you may have. So you know, 831 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: Dick or being able to do the things that he 832 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: can do, you know, bry spreading the ball around and 833 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: different types of kicks increases his value, increases the coverage 834 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 5: guys value. 835 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: It's going to increase the third running backs. 836 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 5: Value in terms of you know, playtime that more tackles 837 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: they get the returners. So I think it's great for 838 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: the game, and you know it'll be exciting. 839 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned guys coming and going, you know, 840 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: Nick Nemeas, I hear. But you bring a guy like 841 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: Phillips Troy Dies back. How excited are you to to 842 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: get some of the existing guys back and then add 843 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: some some vets to the mix. 844 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 4: No, I think it's great, you know, and I appreciate. 845 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 4: And it's not just me. 846 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: I think our organization appreciates the way you know, Joe 847 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 5: Hortiz and his staff assembles this roster. 848 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: Along with you know, Coach Harborov. I mean, they do 849 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 4: a great job. 850 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: Because they have a vision and uh and they're you know, 851 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 5: always you know, eager to listen. But they got a 852 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 5: great vision in terms of how they're building this roster 853 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 5: and you know, so that's exciting and to find guys 854 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 5: to come in and compete. And that's what Coach's vision 855 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 5: is is it's all about competition. You know, competitors are welcoming. 856 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 5: So I think that's great just trying to bring in 857 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 5: the top guys as a matter you're seven year vet, 858 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: if you're a three year vet or a rookie, they're 859 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 5: going to bring in guys to go ahead and compete, 860 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 5: compete for the jobs. And you know, we're definitely blessed 861 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 5: to go ahead and get adult Sean Phillips in here. 862 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 5: Just what he brings to the table with his athleticism, 863 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 5: his length, and then his experience, like you mentioned before, 864 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 5: you know, things we can take from him that he's 865 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 5: been at different places. By all right, what worked for 866 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 5: you all right, that might work for uh, you know, 867 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 5: another guy on a roster, young guy. Let's go ahead 868 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 5: and see if we can implement some of this stuff. 869 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 5: And Troy's leadership, you know, while I was with him 870 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 5: in Minnesota, and I've always been fan of him, just 871 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 5: the way he plays the game, the way he approaches it, practices, 872 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: he practices. 873 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: You know, full throat all every play. 874 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 5: And so I knew when he was first available coming 875 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: out of Minnesota, I was like, we got to go 876 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 5: after this guy, just the way his makeup is. And 877 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 5: I was like, he's right, you know, exactly what coach 878 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 5: is looking for. And and then we you know, signing 879 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 5: another guy. Uh, you know, maga talking about that linebacker 880 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: room that Delshaun Phillips Maga, you know, I mean, we're 881 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 5: excited about that piece that he brings, the physicality, the 882 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: athleticism that brings. But to answer your question in terms 883 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: of Nick Neeman, I mean, it's never easy to replace 884 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 5: one specific guy, you know, uh, and that's why everyone 885 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 5: else got to pick up, you know, pick up the 886 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 5: torch and go ahead and make sure we collectively we 887 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 5: pick up you know, the misspiece. And I think this 888 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 5: this roster we have and what coach has built with Joe. 889 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 890 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 4: It's exciting. I can't wait to go ahead and get 891 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 4: to some of the games with the. 892 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: New on side kick and just kind of well, it's 893 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: new in multiple ways, right since when you were doing 894 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: it where you can overload the one side and we've 895 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: seen the lack of success with it, But we'd love 896 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: to know your take on what we grew up watching 897 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: that on side kick, which is you know, pound it, 898 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: get that second bounce to Now I think we see 899 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 3: kind of young Way doing in Atlanta a lot where 900 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: you're kind of putting that thing on the ground and 901 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: trying to spin it. Have you noticed, like, is it's 902 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: weird to think of developments and on side kicks? You know, 903 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: is the game has progressed, But is there a way 904 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 3: that you think is more effective or is it just 905 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: a really hard play to execute because of how the 906 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: NFL has this thing laid out? Now? 907 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 5: You know, I think I think what is really important 908 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 5: the way the NFL has it, you know, mapped out, 909 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: is obviously player safety, which I think is very very important. 910 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 5: And so I get back I support that one thousand percent. 911 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 5: And in regards to that play, yeah, the success rate 912 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 5: isn't high, you know. But also this, you know that 913 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 5: the team you're trying to reward with the onside kicks 914 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 5: has been is losing too, So you know, so I 915 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 5: think the play will get better. We did a slight 916 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 5: rule change, you know, with that in which you're want 917 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 5: to move them up with yard and so again another 918 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 5: rule change with it. But they're going to be towing 919 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 5: that thirty that five that thirty five yard line to 920 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 5: be able to get a little bit closer to the ball. 921 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean in these kickers, they can do 922 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 5: a lot of great things in terms of the spinning 923 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 5: that you talked about, and you know Denver did that 924 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: to us a couple of times, you know, last year, 925 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 5: and it's a timing. But how can you go ahead 926 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 5: and attack you know, a weakness that you might see 927 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 5: on tape or buy our opponent, you know, are they 928 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 5: overloaded on a certain side, a type of ball of 929 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 5: personnel where they are All that factors in in terms 930 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 5: of how you can go ahead and get some of 931 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 5: those recoveries. And you know, we had a couple of 932 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 5: close ones, like you know against Kansas City, you know, 933 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: I think it was twenty two, and you know, ball 934 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: was free. It's just didn't have you know, didn't have 935 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 5: enough guys right there to go ahead and get it. 936 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 5: But it's just those opportunities where you get it free 937 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 5: to have guys, you know, buy that ball to make 938 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: the play. And you know that's all we're trying to do. 939 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 5: And and you know, I think they're you know, hopefully 940 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 5: not on our watch. Is not more recoveries maybe when 941 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 5: we're on the on side, but hopefully we have more 942 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 5: hands teams than anything that I was trying to kick 943 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 5: those on sides to go ahead and give another play. 944 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: But you know, it's just. 945 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: Also the hands team doing a great job defending against 946 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 5: it too. 947 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: So you're coaching every NFL stadium, but week one in Brazil, 948 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 2: it's it's a different animal. What do you know about 949 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: that stadium? The grass And I'm sure that you're already 950 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: h looking looking ahead. 951 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 5: Well I will say that, and maybe this is still 952 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of full disclosure here and 953 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 5: I might be saying this out too much, but uh, 954 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 5: it's been I want to say, twenty years since I've 955 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 5: been to Brazil. I've been this actually some Paulo Brazil 956 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 5: coming out of college. Uh, some friends we took a 957 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 5: trip down there, so yeah, but yeah, so I have 958 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 5: to go ahead and brush up on my Portuguese. 959 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 4: Not very good with that. 960 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: But anyways, as the game, I mean, it's I think 961 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 5: it's great for the NFL and what they're trying to 962 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 5: do and just broaden this and you know, make a 963 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 5: worldwide sport because it is it's I think it's I 964 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 5: think it's the best game, uh in the world, in 965 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 5: all sports, and that maybe I'm biased, but I think 966 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 5: it's an unbelievable game and so much parody amongst the 967 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 5: talent level. But to be in such an amazing country 968 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 5: and my you know, my wife she's Colombian, you know, 969 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 5: South America down there, and so just being in that 970 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 5: that country will be amazing, especially bringing to the fans 971 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 5: down there. 972 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 4: I'm excited to be a part of it. 973 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 5: I'm very you know, very blessed to be able to 974 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 5: be fortunate to be able to go down there for 975 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 5: week one. 976 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 3: Now. 977 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 5: I've been to London twice, uh so going there, it's 978 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of fun. You know, the travel 979 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 5: will be you know different, so I know, the sleep 980 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 5: and all that. Making sure and they got this dialed 981 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 5: in in terms of when to sleep when not to sleep. 982 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 5: Uh So, so we can go ahead and get on 983 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 5: that that time zone quickly. And now you know, just 984 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: excited to get there, but it'll be there soon enough, 985 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 5: but it'll be a lot of fun. 986 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, since you've already been there, I'm gonna put you 987 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: in charge of you know, hey, guys, why don't we 988 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: go down a couple of days early. You know, let's 989 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 3: maybe get down there four or five days early, just 990 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: to make sure we get settled. 991 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 4: And we get this. 992 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 5: We're gonna stay in that hotel because it will be 993 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 5: fun just to just to be down there and just 994 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: see the city. Absolutely, because we're going down there to 995 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 5: to do one thing, and that's to win that football game. 996 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 5: And you know it will be a great start to 997 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 5: the season, and you know, just to go ahead and 998 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 5: get that trajectory going, you know somewhere excited about last one. 999 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 3: For me, I got asked that it's one watching the 1000 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 3: highlights from what he was doing at Iowa State, but 1001 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 3: then two seeing coach Harbaugh just the way he says, 1002 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: Steve O. Klotz, just the name, and I think back 1003 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 3: to Derrek Watt when he was here with a great 1004 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: you know fullback, it's a great special teams player. Kind 1005 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 3: of your initial impressions of Steve O. Klotz and what 1006 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 3: he might be able to do for you. 1007 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 5: You know, I think the best for him is still 1008 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 5: in front of us about what he's going to bring, 1009 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: and that's the physicality, because he he is a hammerhead 1010 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 5: in terms of he is a physical hit and we 1011 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 5: can't obviously have paths on right now. So you know, 1012 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 5: watching him at I always stay. There was a coach 1013 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 5: that kind of put me on him early in the 1014 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 5: kind of evaluation process for the draft, and he was 1015 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 5: a four core guy and they you know, I know 1016 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 5: they're talking about port and all of them, which are 1017 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 5: you know, elite special teams players as well and as 1018 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 5: in respect to the position. But I think the one 1019 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 5: thing that he brought is like they're like, this guy 1020 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 5: was the captain, and you know, he kind of drove it. 1021 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 5: Just he set the tone, the tone setter for everything 1022 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 5: they do. And I was like, you know, I'd like 1023 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 5: to go ahead and get more of those guys, and 1024 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 5: you know, excited about that. And it felt that what 1025 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 5: he brings, he's gonna go ahead and just you know, 1026 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 5: mess right in with our guys, and so he's doing 1027 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 5: everything right out there, you know, the technique, the fundamentals, 1028 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: the mental part, learning from these guys, uh, coming in 1029 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 5: and wanting to meet extra But I'm looking forward to 1030 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 5: seeing him in training camp, preseason games where you get 1031 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 5: to see that physicality part uh take over. And that's 1032 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 5: where I think he's gonna go ahead and really flourish. 1033 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: Coach last one for me and for US eleven wins 1034 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 2: last year, year two with Coach Harball, what was your one? 1035 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: Like, you know, just meshing with a new coaching staff. 1036 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 2: And then how different is this time this year versus 1037 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: this time last year? 1038 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 5: You know, I think, you know, Coach Harbor, it is 1039 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 5: a true blessing to be around him and just watch 1040 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 5: the way he works because he's a mastermind and what 1041 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 5: he does and everything is so well thought of. Uh, 1042 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 5: you know, it's not he's not just thinking, all right, 1043 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 5: let's go ahead and this what this sounds good for today? 1044 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean he's thought through this, you know several times. 1045 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 5: I Mean he's you know, with the schedule changes and 1046 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 5: he wants what's best for the players in the organization, 1047 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 5: But what is it going to give us that edge? 1048 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 5: And that's how he sees everything and everything we do. 1049 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 5: And when you have a coach like that and who's 1050 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 5: had success, uh, it's it's difficult not to go ahead 1051 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 5: and gravitate and just fall right in line and you know, 1052 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,479 Speaker 5: just try and do your best so you can see 1053 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 5: him have success as well and see this organization have success. 1054 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 5: So I think it's you know, I'm learning a lot 1055 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 5: every day. You know, the way he goes I approaches 1056 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 5: the you know, the team, the way he approaches each 1057 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 5: player individually. You know, I think I'm I'm the I'm 1058 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 5: the lucky one in terms of being able to learn 1059 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 5: all that and being able to take a bunch of 1060 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 5: nuggets from him, and the way he uh tries to 1061 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 5: you know, set up the foundation for the team on 1062 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 5: what he wants and then just see that they take off. 1063 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 5: For the difference in terms of what it was last 1064 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 5: year and this year, I think, uh, I want to say, 1065 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 5: more comfortable. It's more we know what to expect, you know, 1066 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 5: not coming from Michigan with him being here. 1067 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 4: Uh. You know, so you know, for your you're one 1068 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 4: is like all right, this is how he likes some. 1069 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 5: Practice and everything, and and now having an understanding of 1070 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 5: that I feel we can continue to you know, give 1071 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 5: more and continue to do more and just continue to 1072 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 5: build off, you know, the success that we had from 1073 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 5: last year, but then knowing that there's a lot more 1074 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 5: work that we need to do as Special Teams wise 1075 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 5: to be able to get to where we want to go, 1076 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 5: and that's obviously to win a world championship. 1077 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: Loved it, really enjoyed it. Oh you know what we 1078 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 3: should do? Shout out Chris, what a heck of a 1079 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 3: coach you got as well on the on the staff. 1080 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 3: I meant to do that earlier. 1081 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 5: But Coach Gold, I would say that I've been finding ways, 1082 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 5: but this he is, he is phenomenal. He is the 1083 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 5: best coach around and been a part of very fortunate 1084 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 5: to be. You know, I don't see him as an assistant. 1085 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 5: It's him and I are linked on the arm and 1086 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 5: this thing, and uh we would not have a success 1087 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 5: you know for this uh Special Teams unit if it 1088 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 5: wasn't for him. He's just a phenomenal football coach and 1089 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 5: uh what he does and his families you know, just 1090 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 5: class a you know Sam and and his little guy A. 1091 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 5: So but very fortunate. You know, he's sticking around and 1092 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 5: he just makes us all better. 1093 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: It's great, big, great partnership be here before you know. 1094 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 4: Brother, Oh, absolutely appreciate your time. I appreciate it. Thank 1095 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: you very much. 1096 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: Thanks good Well Monday. 1097 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: Another gym Ryan Ficken, one of the coaches that I 1098 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: just have so much appreciation for his longevity in the 1099 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 2: league and just what he's done with this special Team's 1100 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: gonna going into your four. 1101 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 3: That's an important part of the team, you know. I mean, 1102 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: how many big kicks have we seen Cam Dicker make? 1103 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 3: How many big punts to pin a team deep? Have 1104 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 3: we seen JK. Scott make? You know? And not to 1105 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 3: mention him as an evaluator and helping construct this team. 1106 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 3: And who's going to be that fifty second, fifty third 1107 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: guy that can cured a tribute on special teams and 1108 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 3: then becomes a more integral part like he was talking 1109 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: about Adam Thielen of the team Austin Eckler. You know 1110 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 3: here we think about it's the one story we always 1111 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 3: tell about special teams, and you know that then he 1112 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: goes on to being you're you're starting running back and 1113 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 3: a guy that's you know, leading the league in touchdowns 1114 00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 3: over the course of two seasons and a lot of 1115 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 3: that goes into the special teams coordinator being to evaluate 1116 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 3: and recognize talent and how they can contribute with limited 1117 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: amounts of snaps not available to them for their particular position. 1118 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: But they can stick on the team because of what 1119 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: you know, these guys seeing them and it's it's it's 1120 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: a wildly underappreciated and underrated part of a football team. 1121 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 3: And you know, the special teams coordinator has got to 1122 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: know everybody and be able to tap into all of that. 1123 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: And you know, three phases are three phases. It's not two, 1124 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 3: it's three, and special teams is part of it. And 1125 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: since coach Ficken has arrived, the charge has been one 1126 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: of the best in the league at it year in and 1127 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: year out. 1128 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately, all right, guys, there's no offseason here at 1129 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: the Bolt. We got OTAs next week, we got mini 1130 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: camp coming up, a very brief break before an early 1131 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: training camp as we get to the Hall of Fame game. 1132 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a lot of fun here in 1133 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: El Segundo over the next month or so. 1134 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: Take a little break and then we'll be back and 1135 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: then more interviews coming up to with. 1136 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 3: U Roman having to coach Roman was pulling out a 1137 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: second ago. 1138 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: Was that was that him? 1139 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 3: No, it was him right before that. Okay, so I 1140 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 3: don't know who that was. They just waved, So I 1141 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 3: wrote that more coachy it was. I saw him walk 1142 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: through his car was earlier too, Yeah, I was like, 1143 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 3: I think that was I think it was. Yeah. So 1144 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna get everybody though. We'll make sure we get 1145 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 3: everybody on and we always appreciate talking. Let me know 1146 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,959 Speaker 3: that people enjoy the content. 1147 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 4: No question. 1148 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: All right for money, I am Chris. This has been 1149 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: charges weekly. We'll see you next week.