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Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: just so you guys know, we are doing almost every

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Speaker 1: So we'll remind you about that.

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Speaker 2: But we're certainly very very very excited about that. Senator.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to chat about tonight, including you

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Speaker 1: going into the lines then where I live for seven years.

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Speaker 1: I at first I got a text on him and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: what bet did Ted Cruz lose to go on CNN

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Speaker 1: with Caitlin Collins.

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Speaker 2: That's actually a very good question. It was not with me.

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Speaker 2: It would have been a great bet.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden I get text message you're on there,

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Speaker 1: I start watching and it was some fireworks.

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Speaker 3: Well tonight I went on CNN with Caitlin Collins, and

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Speaker 3: I did so because CNN has been pushing so much

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Speaker 3: misinformation in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. I wanted

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Speaker 3: on the whole both sides ism that it's really both sides.

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Speaker 3: It's Republicans and Democrats that are engaging in violence. It's

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Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats that engage in hateful, violent rhetoric, and

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Speaker 3: so both sides are equally responsible, and that is a lie.

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Speaker 3: On our podcast just two days ago, we broke that

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Speaker 3: going to stick with it. We're going to play that

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Speaker 3: forth that we had. We're also going to play what

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Speaker 3: was released earlier this evening, which is the text exchanges

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Speaker 3: aftermath of the shooting. And we're also going to talk

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Speaker 3: about how ABC News gushed about it, treating the two

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Speaker 3: Pitter patter, Oh, how exciting the two of these sick

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you real quick about the IFCJ

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe it's been nearly two years

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Speaker 1: ago since the terrorists that murdered more than one two

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Speaker 1: hundred innocent Israelis and took two hundred and fifty hostages

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Speaker 1: actually happened. Today, it seems as if the cries of

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Speaker 1: the shouts of anti Semitism and hatred, and the most

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Speaker 1: forgotten already by many, and that's by design for many

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Speaker 1: around the world. Yet the world looks away and we

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Speaker 1: I want you to get involved in for the people

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Speaker 1: of Israel, and it is called the Flags of Fellowship

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Speaker 1: and it's organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

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Speaker 1: On October fifth, It's just a few weeks away, literally

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Speaker 1: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in

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Speaker 1: And you can be a part of this movement as well.

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Speaker 1: Your church can be a part of this movement as well.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get more information about how you

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Speaker 1: can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the Fellowship

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Speaker 1: online at IFCJ dot org and you can get what

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Speaker 1: That's IFCJ dot org one more time, IFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 1: And you can also get your church involved, as so

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Speaker 1: their entire congregations. IFCJ dot org. All right, so let's

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Speaker 3: That's how actually you and I have done interviews. We've

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Speaker 3: It's idiosy, it is idiocy. So we're going to play

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Speaker 4: CNN, and joining me now is Senator Ted Cruz. And

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Speaker 4: Senator I think you've probably been part of some theatrical

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but can I ask you on just the Antifa

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Speaker 4: But on what you just said, they're about investigating.

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Speaker 4: Kirk, Senator. I don't think that anyone should separate regardless

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to take a moment to talk

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Like you said, we all saw the videos and unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: And that's really where burna comes in. You know, depending

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Speaker 1: You can get more information for you or your family

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Speaker 1: Go to burnaby RNA dot com. That's burner by RNA

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Speaker 1: real quick. There's a great list put out and it

437
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Speaker 1: said when when Democrats are angry, you get BLM riots, ANTIFA,

438
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: church shootings, Trump assassination, chimp, Charlie Kirk assassination, pro life

439
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: pregnancy centers are put on fire, TESLA vandalism, attacks against

440
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: ice agents at tax against police, attacks against federal courthouses,

441
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: and This is just merely a partial list. And what

442
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Speaker 1: happens when we are attacked we have prayer visuals and

443
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: we clean up profanity that is put on Britain. Is

444
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: by the way, you went viral for that, well done.

445
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: We didn't even mention that earlier. I for Pere, they

446
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know what happened.

447
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: Sunday.

448
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: We did our show and then you saw online. I'm

449
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: assuming we haven't even talked about this online. I think

450
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: you must have seen the picture that someone had put

451
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: up on one of the overpasses not far from where

452
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: you live and I live, Charlie Kirk, and you just

453
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: said all right, I'm gonna go paint over it, and

454
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: you did it and then put it on the internet.

455
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it pissed me off. This was on Highway fifty

456
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: nine in Houston, right in the middle of Houston. Where

457
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: this happened was about a mile from my house. It

458
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: was very close from where I live. It was at

459
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: fifty nine and Shepherd for anyone from Houston, it was

460
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: right at the Shepherd exit. And I saw on Twitter

461
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: the image of someone had spray painted F Charlie Kirk

462
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: and they did not abbreviate F, and it just it

463
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: pissed me off. I mean, Charlie was a friend of mine.

464
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 3: He was an extraordinary person, and that kind of hate

465
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: was wrong. And so I decided I just that after

466
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: I went down. I could tell where it was from

467
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: from the highway sign. And I went down with with

468
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: some paint and a roller, and I just covered it

469
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 3: up and I and I painted over it and I

470
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: erased it, and and and and then I put out

471
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: the pictures and I said, look, some some uh despicable

472
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: bastard put this up. Uh and and and and I've

473
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 3: covered it up text out the Texts Department Transportation has

474
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: been notified. Uh, they will almost surely remove this expeditiously.

475
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: But I've removed it now so that not another text

476
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: in fifty nine is a very busy freeway. So there

477
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: there are thousands or in time millions of people that

478
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: are driving up and down fifty nine. I didn't want

479
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: them to look at that message, and so I just

480
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: covered it up in white paint. And when text dot

481
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: removes it, great uh. And And you know, I will

482
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: say that went viral. I got a lot of folks

483
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: who texted me and and and said thank you for

484
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: doing that. And I got to say. My response to

485
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: all of them was just that it needed to be done,

486
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: that this was grotesque and we needed to just cover

487
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: it up and say that this is not okay.

488
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I want to move to the text messages that have

489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: come out, and it's very interesting to see all of

490
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: the evidence that is now we are seeing the transparency

491
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: of these text messages that were between the shooter and

492
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Speaker 1: his transgendered boyfriend. And I also want to say, there's

493
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: some people that are saying, oh, you're taking this hook

494
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: line and sinker. I don't know if they plan the

495
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: text messages. I don't know if this is him trying

496
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: to protect the roommate and act like the roommate knew

497
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: nothing about it.

498
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of that.

499
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: But what was shocking about this is how the media

500
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: decided to play it and romanticize their relationship through the

501
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: text messages and the weirdest, creepiest way I've ever seen

502
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media do this.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going

504
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: to read you these text messages because they're horrifying. But

505
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 3: it makes clear there is no doubt that this murderer

506
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: is guilty. And by the way, there is a reason

507
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: I won't say the murderer's name, because anyone who engages

508
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: in a mass murderer and horrific crime like this. Part

509
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: of the reason they do this is they want to

510
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 3: be famous. I don't repeat these bastards name. I will

511
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 3: call him the murderer or the assassin or the defendant,

512
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: but I will not say his name. But the murderer

513
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: and his boyfriend we're exchanging, exchanging texts, and and the

514
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: murderer left under a keyboard in their apartment a note

515
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: saying that he had the opportunity to kill Charlie Kirk and.

516
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: He took it.

517
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: And and is his boyfriend, who is a man who

518
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: is transgender and transitioning to be a woman, responded what

519
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: with like a whole bunch of question marks? And you're joking, right,

520
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: And and here's the exchange. The murderer says, I'm still okay,

521
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: my love, but I'm stuck in orum for a little while.

522
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: Longer shouldn't be long until I can come home. But

523
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: I got to grab my right rifle still. To be honest,

524
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: I had hoped to keep this secret till I died

525
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: of old age. I'm sorry to involve you boyfriend, you

526
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: weren't the one who did it, right for question marks, murderer,

527
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: I am, I'm sorry, boyfriend. I thought they caught the

528
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: person murderer. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then

529
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab

530
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: my rifle from the drop point shortly after, but most

531
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet,

532
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering, Boyfriend.

533
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: Why murderer? Why did I do it? Boyfriend? Yeah, murderer.

534
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: I've had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be

535
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: negotiated out. If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen,

536
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: I will have left no evidence. Going to a to

537
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't

538
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: seen anything about them finding it. Boyfriend. How long have

539
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: you been planning this, murderer, a bit over a week.

540
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: I believe I can.

541
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: Get close to it, but there is a squad car

542
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: parked by it. I think they already swept the spot,

543
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: but I don't want to chance it. Murderer. I wish

544
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as

545
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old

546
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: man would do if I didn't bring back Grandpa's rifle.

547
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if it had a serial number, but

548
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about Prince. I

549
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits,

550
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: didn't have the ability or time to bring it with

551
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: I might have to abandon it and hope they don't

552
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: find prints. How the f will I explain losing it

553
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: to my old man. Only thing I left was the

554
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets.

555
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: The effing messages are mostly a big meme. If I

556
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: see notices Bulg's UWU on Fox News, I might have

557
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: a stroke. All right, I'm gonna have to leave it.

558
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 3: That really efing sucks. Those are the text exchanges now

559
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: number one. Reading those text exchanges, it is one hundred

560
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: percent clear. It's not ninety nine percent. It's not ninety

561
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: eight percent. It's one hundred percent clear. This defendant is

562
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: the murderer. He is the assassin. He is confessing to

563
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: his boyfriend, I did it. He is confessing details of

564
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: the crime that only the murderer would know. He will

565
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: be convicted. He was charged today he will be convicted,

566
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: but he is guilty today based on that evidence, it

567
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: is one hundred percent certainly he is guilty, and his

568
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: motive is clear. You know, Caitlin Collins and CNN and

569
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: MSNBC they say, we don't know the motive. Maybe he

570
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: just dislike tall people. Maybe he was just you know,

571
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: firing his gun and celebration and it accidentally hit the throne.

572
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: A certainly somebody that was there excited just to see

573
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and it went off randomly like.

574
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: The level of him. By the way, an idiot commentator

575
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: at MSNBC said, maybe it was a supporter of Charlie

576
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: Kirk firing his gun and celebration. Now thankfully that commentator

577
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: got fired for that idiocy. But the motive is absolutely clear.

578
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: He hated Charlie Kirk. He's a left wing ANTIFA activist,

579
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: he's a transgender activist. He is sleeping with a transgender

580
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: man who is transitioning to be a woman, and so

581
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: the motive is that there's no ambiguity. But CNN hates

582
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: that motive. They cannot admit that's what happened. Oh my goodness,

583
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: that would undermine their entire political agenda. So they desperately

584
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 3: have to say the motive is unclear. By the way,

585
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: Caitlyn Collins said repeatedly, well, law enforcement hasn't laid out

586
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: the motive. Yes, they have. They repeatedly laid out the motive.

587
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: They said it's a left wing activist was radicalized. The

588
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: bullets had carved on the mantifa and transgender messages. I mean,

589
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: this is not subtle. He was not hiding his motive.

590
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: But I have to say, as repulsive as CNN's reaction was,

591
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: ABC's was worse. I want you to listen way worse,

592
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: way worse. Like you can't overstate it, Okay, I want

593
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: you to listen to ABC News's reaction to this text

594
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: exchange between the murderer and his transgender boyfriend. Here, give

595
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: a listen.

596
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 6: You have seen an alleged murder with such specific text

597
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 6: messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hitting,

598
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 6: how it was placed, what was on it.

599
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 7: But also it was very touching in a way that

600
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 7: I think many of us didn't expect, a very intimate

601
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: tortrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the

602
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 7: suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,

603
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 7: calling him my and I want to protect you, my love.

604
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 7: So was this duality of someone who, the attorney said,

605
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 7: not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd,

606
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 7: but was doing it in front of children, which is

607
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 7: one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on

608
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 7: the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner,

609
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 7: so very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David.

610
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I love how they say it's a riveting press conference center.

611
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: It's riveting and just you know, he referred to him

612
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: as my love, and this is just so sweet and sincere.

613
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: It's like, what in the world are you guys doing

614
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: over there at ABC News with your special report, live.

615
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: Coverage, touching and loving? Oh these text messages. I murdered

616
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: this person for you, Oh my love, Oh my love. Patter,

617
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: pitter patter. That is repulsive. It is repulsive that ABC

618
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: News is gushing over this psychopathic murderer and ABC News,

619
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: oh they're touching in sweet text messages. He is confessing

620
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: to a deliberate murder because he hates what somebody is saying.

621
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: He murdered a husband, he murdered, a father of two

622
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: little kids, one boy, one girl, and ABC News thinks

623
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: it's so sweet that he confessed to his transgender boyfriend,

624
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: which of course they call his roommate, even though he's

625
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: calling him my love, Like there's no ambiguity when you

626
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: call someone my love what exactly the relationship is? But

627
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: ABC News cannot admit to them it is sweet and beautiful,

628
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 3: this radical leftist murdering Charlie Kirk I got, I got

629
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: a message for you guys. It's not sweet and it's

630
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: not beautiful.

631
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, side note on this, I don't

632
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but ten minutes after that,

633
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: like the internet exploded over it. They he went back

634
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: on and doubled down on it and basically did the

635
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: same thing again. Like, I'm not backing down from this.

636
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: I think it's genuine and sweet and sincere in a

637
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: love story.

638
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: You know what a romantic Romeo and Juliet story. You know,

639
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: psycho leftist murderer killing people because he's filled with hate.

640
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: I can't think of anything more beautiful than that. Certain

641
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: certainly ABC News is very persuasive in that regard.

642
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it he'll be the face of the network before

643
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: you know.

644
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: It, God help us. Did he really double down? Did

645
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: he really go back on air and do it again?

646
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

647
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: Yes, Do you want to hear it, because I've got

648
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: it if you want to hear So this is yes,

649
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: this is this is Matt Gouman.

650
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this, so play it for us.

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Speaker 1: So this is ten minutes after he said on ABC

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Speaker 1: News Live. It's heartbreaking on so many levels. Obviously, Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, there is this duality of every

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Speaker 1: portrait of a of a again his exact words of

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Speaker 1: a very like this is like love story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, touching. So this is this is ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: Later after the internet And I'm I have no doubt

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Speaker 1: that he knew that there was a problem, right, So

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Speaker 1: he knew hundred percent, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Here he is ten minutes later.

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Speaker 6: It is It's heartbreaking on so many levels, Kira. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd

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Speaker 6: of thousands of people who watched him being shot through

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Speaker 6: the neck and then essentially bleed out in front of

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Speaker 6: him and I think one of the things that the

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Speaker 6: attorney here made a very fine point about is that

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Speaker 6: a lot of these charges seven charges were aggravated because

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Speaker 6: children were present, children witnessed this, children were put in

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Speaker 6: harm's way, and that was.

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Speaker 2: Something that obviously is aggravating here.

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Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons that this suspect, in

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Speaker 6: addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, is

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Speaker 6: facing the death penalty. They're going for the death penalty.

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Speaker 6: And on the other hand, there is this duality of

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Speaker 6: a very a portrait of a very human person, a

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Speaker 6: very human experience from this entire family, as you mentioned it,

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Speaker 6: the mother who essentially discovered that it was her son

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Speaker 6: who had done this, the kid who had got a

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Speaker 6: thirty four out of thirty six on the acts, who

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Speaker 6: had a four point zero, who got a full ride

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Speaker 6: to college here that that kid was the one who

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Speaker 6: allegedly perpetrated He saw those pictures and said identified him essentially.

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Speaker 6: And then those text messages, And I don't think I've

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Speaker 6: ever experienced a press conference in which we've read text

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Speaker 6: messages that are as fulsome so robust, so apparently allegedly

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Speaker 6: self incriminating, and yet on the other hand, so touching

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Speaker 6: right with the suspect reaching out to his roommate who

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Speaker 6: is allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, identified

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Speaker 6: as male at birth now identifies as female, and the

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Speaker 6: terminology he used. He was trying to protect him. He

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Speaker 6: kept calling him my love, My reason for doing this

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Speaker 6: is to protect you, you know, but also asking him

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Speaker 6: to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: So there's this this heartbreaking duality that we're seeing very

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Speaker 6: tragically playing out.

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Speaker 3: If that's not doubling down, I don't know what is

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Speaker 3: fullsome touching loving Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: I am breaking.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't know who this particular reporter is, but

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Speaker 3: but I will say it's it says something that this

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Speaker 3: speaks to him in such a touching, moving way. I

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Speaker 3: see depraved maniacs who just committed cold blood and murder,

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Speaker 3: and and his boyfriend, his boyfriend is like not saying,

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Speaker 3: dear God, what the hell.

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Speaker 6: Did you do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like, oh, oh it was you, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, And he didn't. The boyfriend never said there

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Speaker 3: is anything wrong with murdering Charlie Kirk. He was perfectly

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Speaker 3: fine with it. There ain't not nothing touching about these

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Speaker 3: two psychopaths reveling in their cold blood and murder, and

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Speaker 3: for ABC to think it is that that really tells

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Speaker 3: you how messed up ABC is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'd be very interesting to see if

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Speaker 1: ABC tries to walk this back, if it comes out

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Speaker 1: with those textansges where I cover your ass moment to

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Speaker 1: try to save the boyfriend roommate, I will be very

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Speaker 1: interesting to see.

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Speaker 2: How they manage that. Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: We do the show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and we

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Speaker 1: do the show to talk about these types of things

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Speaker 1: and what the media is doing and exposing it.

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Speaker 2: So hit that.

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