WEBVTT - Being a Caregiver for a Parent with Jennie Garth 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:03.720 Hi everyone. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.680 I'm Holly Robinson, pete actor, author, advocate, do it All mom, 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.680 and I'm also a caregiver. And this is care Walks, 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.759 a podcast from iHeartRadio and Voltaian Arthritis Pain Gel. It's 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.920 a show for family caregivers who give everything to everyone 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.160 and need to make time for. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:23.800 Themselves through movement. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.320 Every episode is designed for you to walk as you listen, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.800 So just think of me and my guests as your 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.520 weekly walking buddies. We'll discover a community ourselves and maybe 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.320 even alleviate some joint pain due to arthritis in the 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.600 process as we walk together and connect to the best 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.120 parts of being a caregiver. So glad you could join 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.159 us for another episode of care Walks. You know what 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.720 I love most about our time together. It makes me 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.800 feel like we're building a community, a community of family caregivers. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.960 And with each walk we take together and each conversation 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.560 we have, it makes me feel a little less alone. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.560 All right now, just a reminder. Right now you're listening 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.840 to the full version of this episode, but if you 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.399 don't have time for a full walk today, then go 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.640 check out our bridged version of this same episode. It's 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:20.039 like cliff notes for podcasts. Okay, In today's episode, we're 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.400 going to be digging into the shifting dynamics when adult 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.880 children become caregivers for their parents. Now, this is something 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.880 I know a lot about, as I was a caregiver 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.840 for many years for my dad, and I'm not going 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.720 to lie, it's a very unsettling change to that relationship. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.120 We love our parents, but it can be really strange 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.920 when all of a sudden, they're no longer the ones 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.280 taking care of us, and we are the ones taking 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.399 care of them. We're setting the rules, and we're the 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.760 ones who are awake at night worried about how they're doing. Now, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.240 as a parent myself, I can see the other side 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.800 of the coin how those changes in the relationship can 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.600 also really be challenging for parents who need care. I 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.800 am looking forward to speaking with today's guest on this topic. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.920 Not only is she an actor, advocate, and podcaster, but 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.320 she is also a family caregiver who took care of 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.079 her father when he suffered from a heart attack. I'm 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.360 talking about my friend Jenny Garth. I've known Jenny for 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.520 many years and I'm looking forward to connecting with her 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.520 and comparing our experiences of caring for our parents. Yes, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.760 it's challenging, for sure, but there's also something really special 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.560 about being a caregiver to a parent as their adult child. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.800 It gives you a whole new opportunity to get to 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.560 know them, and I'm really interested to hear Jenny talk 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.960 about how it may have shaped her life and relationship 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.600 with her father in really positive ways. I also know 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.639 that Jenny has struggled with joint pain, as so many 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.120 of us caregivers do, so I'm going to ask her 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.919 about her own relationship with movement and how she keeps 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.200 active with osteoarthritis. Before we get to our conversation with Jenny, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.959 let's get moving and start our walk with intent, an 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:09.160 intention of gratitude. We sometimes forget to express gratitude to 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.160 even the simplest gifts in our lives. There's a lot 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.600 to appreciate about where we are in this moment. Show 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.760 gratitude for your body on this walk and all that 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.520 is doing to keep you moving forward. Think about how 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.920 the parts of your body must work in harmony for 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.600 you to do the amazing things you do every day. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.840 It's not always easy, I know, but your body shows 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.480 up for you. Use today as a reminder to share 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.400 that strength, appreciate your movement, and consider how you can 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.600 connect with someone who might need that little nudge to 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.240 find that gratitude today too. We can only be as 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.680 strong as the connections we make, whether that is sharing 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:56.560 a beautiful memory or deepening your connection with yourself. Give 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:04.240 thanks for the important connections in your life as you 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.920 settle into the rhythm of your walk. I'm going to 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.840 keep talking and share with you my conversation with our 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:18.640 guests Jenny Garth, and together will widen our community of caregivers. Today, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.080 I have the pleasure of talking to not only a 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.080 great friend of mine, but also a magnificent actress, fellow 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:30.359 podcaster and caregiver, Jenny Garth. Like me, Jenny cared for 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.160 her father for many years, and she has recently spoken 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:37.120 out about living with osteoarthritis. Jenny, thank you so much 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.080 for joining us. Hey, Holly, I'm so glad to see 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.440 you too. This is an awesome way to have some 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.000 girl time catch up. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:45.440 I know. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.240 I just follow you on the Instagram. I see all 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.080 your work. I saw the whales in Vancouver. Oh my god. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.440 Oh well, I follow you as well, And that's social 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:55.279 media use for good. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.200 It keeps us in contact with each other. Yes, exactly. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:03.400 This program is really designed to support caregivers. Share a 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.880 little bit with us about your journey as a caregiver. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.040 Well, it started off really young. I was about thirty 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.960 when my father suffered his first massive heart attack. We 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.560 lived in Illinois on farm. Everything was perfect and idyllic, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.320 and my dad was, you know, this big strong man. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.679 All of a sudden he was, you know, incapacitated, and 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.400 having a heart attack back then, all those years ago, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.640 was a lot different than having a heart attack now. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.919 So it was much more invasive and disruptive to life 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.479 and so much harder to come back from. So that 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:44.000 really changed my life as a young girl, uprooted our family. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.479 We had to move to Arizona for a drier climate 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.080 for him, leave some siblings behind. It was really a 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.520 pretty traumatic experience. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:53.000 Then. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.559 This was a few years later. My mom was having 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.840 to work and continued to like do what she needed 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.800 to do to keep the household going, and so I 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.120 would fill in for her. And that was when I 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.359 was already living out in la and acting. But I 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.440 would take breaks so that I could go back and 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.000 take care of my dad. I think what's so great 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.799 about our conversations that we both had to be caregivers 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.520 at a young age. My dad was diagnosed with Parkinson's 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.279 disease when I was just eighteen, headed to college, so 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.479 many new things in my life, and really considered just 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:30.839 not going. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.719 To college so that I could take care of my dad. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.120 What do you think the biggest adjustment is that you 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.200 had to make as a young caregiver. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.640 I mean just the sacrifice that you have to make 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:47.520 to be there for someone on that level. It's if 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.400 you know, it's an all encompassing sacrifice. So when you 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.160 are actually taking care of someone like that, you're one 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:58.640 hundred percent responsible for another grown, adult human being. It's 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.680 not you know this when you have a baby and 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.880 you kind of like ease your way into being a mother. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:09.200 This as a young girl was like, okay, wow, I'm 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.080 going to jump in and do this the best I 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:15.360 know how, And it was a lot I think that 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.000 it had a lot of, you know, impact on just 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.240 every aspect. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:20.400 Of my life. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.160 Yeah, I mean becoming a caregiver for a parent. You mentioned, 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.239 you know, when you have a baby, it's a different thing, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:32.400 You're completely different dynamic. But when you're when it's your dad. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.400 You know, what were the biggest shifts in your relationship 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.400 with your dad when you became his caregiver. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.800 Well, the shifts had already, unfortunately started to happen as 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:47.280 he went through his health problems associated with cardiovascular disease 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.000 and all the things that came with that. He was 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.200 my you know, this big, strong hero to me and 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.400 there was nothing he couldn't do. And then when he 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.040 got sick, that just changed and I saw him on 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:05.040 such a vulnerable level, and it was so hard to 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:10.400 watch your hero, your dad, decline like that. You know, 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.280 a lot of it came from his own self doubt 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.000 of his own self worth, how he felt as a 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.240 man and as the provider for our family, and all 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.720 of those shifts that happened, and then being dependent on 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.400 other people was very, very difficult for him. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.240 So it made it. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.160 Kind of frictious sometimes when you know, he didn't want 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.520 to be taken care of and somebody had to take 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.080 care of him, had to help him up and down 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.319 into the bathroom and to bathe and all the things 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.640 that you have to do. From that point forward, as 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.240 a young girl, something inside of you switches and you 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.160 become uber responsible for you feel like everything. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:57.320 I would say that's the biggest dynamic that shift for 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.120 me was just going from being just the daughter and 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.360 looking up to my daddy, my big, strong daddy, and 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.960 then now being responsible for his care and and like 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.640 you said, you know, we just didn't have a lot 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.240 of information back then about health and wellness, and we 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:19.040 didn't have you know, Google, and we didn't have all. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.080 These search podcasts. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.000 We didn't have podcasts. We didn't have anybody to talk 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.920 to about this. We just we just white knuckled it, right, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.320 We just you just pushed through. And I will say 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:36.160 that one of the best things about being a caregiver 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.400 was going through sort of this evolution of emotions about 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.200 my dad. And we had an interesting relationship like many 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:48.360 people do with their fathers many daughters. But there were 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.240 a lot of things that we hadn't said to each 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.720 other and dealt with my dad a lot of baggage, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.439 and so I found that we had opportunity to have 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.160 a lot of talks because we spent time together. Did 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.679 you find it hard to set boundaries as a caregiver 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.960 and connect, you know, you want to try to be 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.120 there and talk and connect with your dad but you also, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.559 you know, you're sort of in charge. That was an 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:12.960 interesting dynamic for me. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.040 Yeah, it's weird to be in charge of your parent 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.600 and they don't like it either, so it makes us 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.760 super challenging. When I would go and take care of 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.840 my dad on my own, it was just me and him, 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.640 and we're both very very quiet people, like we are 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.720 the kind of people that don't need to talk just 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.520 for the sake of talking. Our energy is enough for 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.480 each other, and we would just go on drives a 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:47.480 lot and be in silence and just really enjoy that connection, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.000 that unsaid bond that we had, which was something that 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.920 I miss because there aren't a lot of people in 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.920 the world that I can just hang out with and 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:03.079 not talk to special. Yeah, so we got to spend 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:08.880 a lot of really quality time together, and jeez, I'm 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.440 so grateful for that. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:16.200 You know, like many caregivers, did you go through like 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.960 an evolution of emotions throughout your experience as a caregiver 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.800 and what or who were the strongest support systems for 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:25.319 you and your family? 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.120 For me, back then, with my dad, I had my 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.760 mom to talk to. I have my siblings. Now with 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.000 my mom, I have my siblings to talk to about it, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.839 to sort of share stories and the ups and downs 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.600 of it and the frustrations of it. And I feel 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:45.679 like that's so important to have somebody or more than 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.079 one person that you can just talk to and kind 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.480 of vent with yes and let go of all that 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:56.560 responsibility for a minute, know how valuable you are, and 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.559 pat yourself on the back, Like give yourself that accolades, 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.840 give yourself that acknowledgment of how much you're doing, how 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.640 much is on your plate. They always say, when the 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.920 oxygen mask comes out of the ceiling on the airplane, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.000 put it on yourself first, and then put it on 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.520 someone else because of you. If you don't take care 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.560 of yourself like we've talked about, you really aren't going 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.080 to be able to take care of anyone else. That 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.280 burnout is so real, and if you don't address it, 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.240 I feel like it's just a disaster waiting to happen 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.600 because you can't handle it all on your own. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:40.520 It's so so true. How was watching your father's health challenges? 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.600 How did that change how you think about your own physical. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:50.040 Health seeing him struggle? It didn't really affect me at 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:55.920 that young age, but when I did turn thirty, I 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.200 started taking things much more seriously because that was my 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.760 dad was thirty seven when he had his first massive 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.840 heart attack, and so I was like, I'm gonna get 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.440 ahead of this. I'm thirty, I'm ahead of him by 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.720 seven years. I'm really gonna like look into it. So 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.719 I started to really dial in on my own healthcare 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.760 and like being my own advocate. And I felt like 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.680 I was ahead of the curve at the time, you know, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.480 like being thirty, because oftentimes you wait too long until 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.240 you've already got a problem, or you're starting to feel, 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.520 you know, ill, or you notice something's not right. It's imperative, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.120 in my opinion, to take the bull by the horns 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.280 and get in there and take care of yourself before 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.839 something goes wrong. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.839 Isn't that interesting? 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.280 I did the same thing, Jenny, when my dad he 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.680 was diagnosed with Parkinson's at a very young age, young 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.280 on set Parkinson's and in his forties. And when I 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.040 turned the age that my dad was when he was diagnosed, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.319 which was around forty six forty seven, I was watching 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:03.080 for tremors. I was I went to a neurologist and I, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.440 you know, I said, is there anything I can do 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.280 to get ahead of this, and and they were like, relax, Holly, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.200 you know you can't. That's not the way this goes. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:10.800 You. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.760 You know, definitely take care of yourself. But but isn't 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.840 that interesting when you when you're the age that your 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.960 your parent was when they got a diagnosis or or 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.640 a health crisis happened, how you you sort of go 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.000 inward and go okay, and let me start looking at 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.440 my own health and wellness. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.120 And maybe maybe that's, you know, a gift, that's one 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.920 of the gifts of it is that if this hadn't 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.760 happened with my dad, I wouldn't have been so conscious 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.720 of my health and been so proactive in it, and 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.040 I could be in the same boat that he was, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.120 you know, who knows. And that continues as you get 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.360 older because you just you want to stay healthy for 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.680 as long as you can. I just started to eat 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.440 much more healthy. I've always been a healthy eater, always 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:59.080 been vegetarian. And also knowing your family history, like researching 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:05.760 your actual lineage and your biological parents and their parents 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.240 and how what is passed down in a generation after 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.760 generation of your family, because some families are more prone 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.080 to cardiovascular disease. Some families are more prone to cancer 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.440 and you can kind of see the pattern before it 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.600 becomes a problem. And then from your family knowledge, going 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.360 to the doctor and getting baseline of your own health 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.840 like what is your blood pressure, what is your cholesterol, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.200 what is your BMI, and talking to your doctor and 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.720 forming a relationship with them, letting them know like, these 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.240 are my genetic my family predispositions to an illness, and 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.080 these are the things I like to keep an eye 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.800 on and be really targeted at looking at. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.960 Yeah, being really proactive with your own health is so key. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:57.040 And again, we went through caregiving situations with our dads 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.840 pre Internet, pre Google. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.200 So we we're the real MVPs. That's what I'm saying. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:09.200 I'm claiming that. Oh my gosh. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.440 More from my conversation with Jenny Garth. After a brief 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:23.800 commercial break, and now back to my conversation with Jenny Garth. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.400 I want to talk a little bit about joint pain. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.160 You recently shared that you are dealing with osteo arthritis 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.120 and I would love to know what did the road 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:39.960 to your OA diagnosis look like. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.000 Well, it was full of denial. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.720 Let's start with that, because who wants to say, oh, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.320 I have joined pain. I feel like I might have arthritis. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.800 Like for me, that was like something that old people 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.240 had to deal with, and I was just not ready 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:03.400 to cross that bridge or just acknowledge it. And the 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.760 fact is, it's not an old people's disease quote unquote. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.840 You can have osteoarthritis or forms of arthritis. You can 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.200 have joint pain at any age, and it's just specific 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.080 to who you are, your genetic makeup, and what your 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.199 lifestyle is like and the foods that you're eating, so 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.679 it all contributes to it. But for me, I've always 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.120 had bad hips. Like it's a family thing, like both 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.439 my parents had hip replacements, and I knew it was coming. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.040 I don't even think I've ever shared this with anyone, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:39.800 but in two thousand and twenty, right after the hospitals 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:45.440 open back up, I underwent a hip replacement because I thought, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.679 I'm young, I want to I know this is coming. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.080 I'm having a lot of discomfort and my quality of 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.199 life is diminishing. I couldn't hike with my dogs, I 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.959 couldn't play golf, I couldn't sit comfortably all the things. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.359 And so I got ahead of that and did the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.280 hip replace and recovered beautifully. I was like up and 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.000 going almost instantly. Wow, Yeah, that was it. I was 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.480 only forty six five seven eight something like. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:11.520 That, right, right. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.840 But it was interesting because from that I felt like 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.679 I was a little bit even more in touch with 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.600 my body, especially my joints, because that major hip join 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:23.480 is a big deal. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.040 And I had felt like. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.280 The stiffening of my knees a little and you know, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.520 when you wake up, your hands are kind of sore 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.240 when you bend them around, and you know, you're like, wait, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.400 what is this feeling? Like, what is why am I hurting? 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.679 You know all the time. So just listening to my 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.960 body and listening to how my body healed from the 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.359 hip replacement and how my body sort of compensated for 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.919 the redistribution of weight during all of that, it had 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.080 a major impact on the rest of my body. So 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.840 it was during that time that I started to notice 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.920 that the signs of arthritis were coming. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.520 You mentioned products that you users are anything that you're 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.200 doing or products that you're using specifically that have really 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.760 help with your OA joint pain. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.760 Well, there's over the counter voltairean arthritis pain gel is 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.959 something that you can rub on and get relief with that. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.040 I use it, My siblings all use it, and then 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.600 people come out of the woodwork like, oh Voltaire And 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.960 I use Voltairean too, because it's like it really does help. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.040 Because there's nothing that they can do at this point 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.760 to cure arthritis. I don't believe, or to make it 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.560 completely go away, so treating it at this juncture is 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:44.719 what we can do. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:46.359 My daughter. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.680 I still have my almost sixteen year old at home 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.520 with me, and so I'm continuing to drive her around 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.919 Los Angeles like an uber driver constantly, which is hard, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.639 like driving and sitting in it like that physician in 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.639 traffic for hours upon hours. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.560 Sometimes it's you can get stiff. 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.960 So getting up and getting out of the car and 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.399 moving around is really important because driving is one of 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:10.359 the hardest things on me. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.359 Yes, I have five dogs. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.680 I'm constantly bending and lifting and taking care of them 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.040 and playing, and you know, I just want to stay 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.480 really active. And also, Holly, oh my god, I'm so 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.439 excited that I'm going to be a grandma someday. 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:27.760 Not yet. Wait, I thought you were going to break 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:28.480 some news to me. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:29.560 I wasn't ready. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.480 H No, no, no, I'm not ready either. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.240 But I'm really looking forward to that, and I want 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:39.320 to be super like active, and I want to stay like, 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.719 you know, tip top shape, not just for me and 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.440 my dogs anymore, my husband, but for my grandkids someday. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:47.640 Yes. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:48.679 Absolutely. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.840 I mean I'm fifty seven now and a lot of 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.520 my friends are becoming grandparents and and I'm like, wait, what, 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.800 You're the same age as me, How is that possible? 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.280 But then you know, I'm like, I got twenty my 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.679 twins are twenty four, Jenny, I'm like, it's going to 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:03.720 happen at some point. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.240 So I'm very. 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.800 Much like you in that I want to stay active. 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.000 I want to stay healthy. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:11.399 I want to. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:17.199 Stay moving, realizing the importance of exercise and movement the 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.800 whole package, the whole like physical, mental, emotional, all the 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.320 well beings that go on with a person, like all 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.399 the parts of me that I need to keep well, 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:29.040 that's my goal. 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.080 You got your daughter still home and still there, And 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.080 does she ever work out with you or move with 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.520 you or hike with you or is it just you 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.240 and the dogs? She just wants to ride to a party. 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:43.040 Pretty much? 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:43.680 That one. 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.480 Yeah, no, unless it's like a TikTok dance that she's 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.440 trying to get me to do no. But my older daughter, 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.760 I have a twenty five year old and a nineteen 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.560 year old. They're both in New York right now, so 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.880 I go visit them and we walk like so much. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.040 There's a funny story when when I was visiting my 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.480 daughter's one time, I was experiencing some hormonal flux. Let's 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.120 just say this was not that long ago. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:10.400 I'm feeling you, uh huh. 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.200 And it was a hot, sweaty day and they wanted 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.040 to go on a city bike ride. So I was like, yeah, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.399 let's do it. They've got our city bikes. And all 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.280