Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so excited because we now have Barbara on
Speaker 2: and Barbara played Nathan Scott, Nathan Scott's mother deb Yeah,
Speaker 2: we never met apparently, which I just don't. I feel
Speaker 2: like we did, but I guess we didn't.
Speaker 1: No, I feel like I know you, but we never
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we didn't cross paths on the show,
Speaker 1: but then you think, like post show, we would have,
Speaker 1: but I really don't think we have.
Speaker 2: I want to know your least favorite part about working
Speaker 2: on the show, and then your best. Start with the least, okay,
Speaker 2: and with the best. We're going to go do it,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to go I want to know
Speaker 2: my personal stuff because I just found out something that
Speaker 2: I had no idea about and I'm really excited to
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, Okay, I'm going to deep immediately.
Speaker 2: Okay, go worst part.
Speaker 1: So worst part is sort of post show when I
Speaker 1: found out all the stuff that happened on the show,
Speaker 1: and me being like a maternal figure in my own life.
Speaker 1: The fact that I wasn't almost like you don't know immediately,
Speaker 1: I didn't know half the stuff I didn't know any
Speaker 1: of the stuff that was going on on the show,
Speaker 1: and I wish I had been there, and I've I've
Speaker 1: already like offered many apologies to my co stars, and
Speaker 1: I just wish. I feel like I could have made
Speaker 1: a difference because I like being a sounding board. I
Speaker 1: have a good ear, and it just broke my heart
Speaker 1: when I heard that. You know, obviously things weren't happening
Speaker 1: to me because I was like one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: years old according to no But seriously, I was in
Speaker 1: that environment. I was so you know, it didn't happen
Speaker 1: to me, So I was just oblivious to everything. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the worst part of it, because honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't have anything bad to say. While I was
Speaker 1: on the show. It was such a great experience for me.
Speaker 2: Because how old were you when you started the show?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have no idea. They're like thirty
Speaker 1: six maybe the sex Yeah, And it's so funny that
Speaker 1: the writers were painting us the parents is like the
Speaker 1: old people, and we're like thirty six years old, And
Speaker 1: I think I felt old because of that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that was one of my questions too, for you,
Speaker 2: because I just played a mom in a movie to
Speaker 2: oh the f sixteen year old, and I really struggled
Speaker 2: with It's.
Speaker 1: Like, do they see me that old?
Speaker 2: Well, so I've played a mom before, but to littles
Speaker 2: to a teenager. But I was like, am I old
Speaker 2: enough to have a sixteen year old? And my best
Speaker 2: friend Catherine, She's like, well, I have a sixteen year old?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, but like we're like, but
Speaker 2: like you started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's movie mom, It's Hollywood mom. Like it's different.
Speaker 2: But there was something though when I was filming that
Speaker 2: and where I was just like I really had it
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I've now aged out? Have I officially
Speaker 2: aged out of the my thirty you know, mid thirty
Speaker 2: year roles? Am I now just always going to be
Speaker 2: the mom? And I had a really really hard time
Speaker 2: kind of rest and I'm like and I but I
Speaker 2: am a mom, Like I'm a mom to three, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's so it was just but I think
Speaker 2: that the older kid piece of it was that I
Speaker 2: struggled with for some reason, I know, because I've always
Speaker 2: just thought like, no, I'm the the young door right now,
Speaker 2: but I'm not an important I.
Speaker 1: Know, the first time that you're not the youngest person
Speaker 1: in the room right anymore. Like I'm looking around like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a weird feeling. But as long
Speaker 1: as you stay young up.
Speaker 2: Here, yeah, no, for sure, cliche. That's that's true, and
Speaker 2: we grow and that's great that we continue to be
Speaker 2: casted in those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as long as you're hoping that's all that.
Speaker 2: Been right, Okay, So yeah, no, I don't beat yourself
Speaker 2: up about not for this. I can understand that would
Speaker 2: be really tough. But even then, it's he was going
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, I mean I still we had he
Speaker 2: I remember he texted me one time and it was
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I'm flying you out to New York.
Speaker 2: You're going to become a serious regular, like can't wait
Speaker 2: to celebrate. Maybe I'll just like maybe I'll come to
Speaker 2: your room. And I remember calling my boy at the
Speaker 2: time of going, I need you to get to New
Speaker 2: York because I don't know what to do. When he like,
Speaker 2: he's the he just made me a series of the show,
Speaker 2: and so my boyfriend flew to New York for that
Speaker 2: to be there and then when he knocked I was
Speaker 2: like he showed up I'm sorry, you know, like I didn't,
Speaker 2: and then he went to someone else in the guest
Speaker 2: So once he knew that I was, you know, not
Speaker 2: available for that, he then moved on to someone else.
Speaker 2: So when it was you know, it's it's sick.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, it's just like I honestly wish
Speaker 1: I knew and I probably could not have made a difference,
Speaker 1: but in my mind I think I could have. I mean,
Speaker 1: just to be someone to talk to, just to be
Speaker 1: the mother figure to all these girls who didn't have
Speaker 1: mothers there in Wilmington, North Carolina, you know, just like,
Speaker 1: let's all get together and figure out what to do here.
Speaker 1: And when all this came out later, I was in denial.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it happened because I thought I would
Speaker 1: have known.
Speaker 2: I think the piece that always frustrated me was did
Speaker 2: you just hire me because you thought, oh ex or
Speaker 2: did you hire me because I was a good actress?
Speaker 2: And I think that piece kind of wrestled with me
Speaker 2: a little bit because, yeah, you know what, you have
Speaker 2: hired me if I was married, I know, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe not. There's something, Oh do you want to get
Speaker 2: into that?
Speaker 1: You know? Sold me two stuff. I can tell you
Speaker 1: so many stories. Take your ring off for an audition,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's disgusting. But anyway, here are you. How
Speaker 2: were you? You were married, you have kids? You were
Speaker 2: married for how many years?
Speaker 1: Twenty something?
Speaker 2: Twenty something years? And then you have how many kids?
Speaker 2: Have three kids?
Speaker 1: Three girls? They're all actors.
Speaker 2: When did you get divorced six years ago for a reason?
Speaker 2: Or was it just like a long time it was
Speaker 2: a long time coming. Okay, yeah, it was one of
Speaker 2: those were you scared to start over?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I tell you something?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So there was. I was just telling the girls. There
Speaker 1: was a period of my time in my life, there
Speaker 1: was a period of time where I sort of looked
Speaker 1: for people who were struggling, Like whether it was watching
Speaker 1: a movie, you're watching a TV show, or watching a podcast,
Speaker 1: anybody who was struggling.
Speaker 2: Just totally come on.
Speaker 1: My entering was accidental that I saw one of your podcasts.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm getting goosebumps now, and here I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you and you were talking about and you
Speaker 1: were just an open book talking about your struggle, what
Speaker 1: you were going through with your ex, and it made
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it made me feel so good, like
Speaker 1: misery loves company kind of thing, but you're so beautiful
Speaker 1: and young and vibrant, and like, if she's going through it,
Speaker 1: it made me feel tiny bit better that I was
Speaker 1: going through it. And seriously like that it your misery
Speaker 1: made me feel sorry.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, but I mean but I get it though,
Speaker 2: But it was a misery.
Speaker 1: It was that you were open about it. And there's
Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of because you know, these things
Speaker 1: happen to everybody, and let's all share the story and
Speaker 1: we'll all feel like we're all in the same boat,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're not perfect. No, and if anyone
Speaker 1: can relate, I have stories to tell. If anyone can
Speaker 1: relate and benefit from it makes me feel better.
Speaker 2: What was the piece that did you think that you
Speaker 2: would find love again?
Speaker 1: Or no? No? And I was okay with that, Like
Speaker 1: I really came to terms. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: keep saying like it as you get older, but as
Speaker 1: you do get older, and I have my girls, They're
Speaker 1: my love, they're my relationships, they're my romance, they're my everything.
Speaker 1: And I got to a point where I was really
Speaker 1: okay with that. Yeah, and you know, I hang out
Speaker 1: with their friends. They're my friends. And I don't go
Speaker 1: to bars and I don't really go out. I'm a homebody.
Speaker 1: And where am I going to meet someone? And I,
Speaker 1: you know, my girls sign me up for the dating apps. Ew,
Speaker 1: It's just like and then when you least expect it
Speaker 1: and it met your person. So cliche, but it happened.
Speaker 2: I just found this out. I didn't watch the Golden Bachelor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so I just found out that you were dating
Speaker 2: someone who was on that show. Yeah, so okay, help
Speaker 2: me get that timeline.
Speaker 1: Okay, was he I want to know the truth or
Speaker 1: do you want to know the story? We tell?
Speaker 2: I heard her rumor that you slid into his dams.
Speaker 1: Well that's the truth.
Speaker 2: That's the truth, okay, And that's okay. My husband that
Speaker 2: I'm married to now slid into my DMS and he
Speaker 2: hates He literally hates it when I say that. He's like,
Speaker 2: I respectfully reached out to you politely and wanted to
Speaker 2: meet you. I was like, but you slid into my DMS,
Speaker 2: like you straight up, So it's like you wanted to
Speaker 2: meet That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And why is it a little bit different if
Speaker 1: a girl does it to a guy. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but maybe it makes more.
Speaker 2: How did you see him? To begin with?
Speaker 1: So his daughter was on the Bachelor's testing, and so
Speaker 1: they went to their hometowns. And this is coincidentally, I
Speaker 1: was which.
Speaker 2: The which show? Which which Bachelor? Joey Joey? Okay, I
Speaker 2: didn't watch that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot, So I was on the couch. This is something.
Speaker 1: This is like a tradition. Oh, like a year I
Speaker 1: don't know, like a couple of years ago, like the
Speaker 1: last season, not the one that's the one before it,
Speaker 1: I think. And we've been watching The Bachelor forever, me
Speaker 1: and my girls sitting on the couch like what not
Speaker 1: to do? Like training. We call it school because I
Speaker 1: homeschooled them, Like okay, got in our school. So I
Speaker 1: was talking to my youngest about this is you want
Speaker 1: a guy that looks at you and smiles and like
Speaker 1: welcomes people. And coincidentally, we were watching the show and
Speaker 1: this guy in the background, who is the dad, smiled
Speaker 1: and I said, That's what I'm talking about right there,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Kind of forgot about it,
Speaker 1: and then they asked him to be on the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 1: And like, oh, there's my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I was joking, the Golden Bachelor, the last one, the
Speaker 2: Golden the Golden Bacherette.
Speaker 1: I asked her to be a contestant because I guess
Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one who noticed his smile when
Speaker 1: he was in the background. And he ends up on
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelorette, and I was joking with my daughters like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my boyfriend's going to be on the show.
Speaker 2: He's oh my god, what play Wait? How long were
Speaker 2: you on the show for?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about on the show? And he was.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch that one either.
Speaker 1: It was a contestant, so he was on until the
Speaker 1: very end.
Speaker 2: Were you like the final runner up?
Speaker 1: He was, No, there's more So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we cannot because I slimmed his damns and we connect
Speaker 1: and we're talking.
Speaker 2: So angry at you right now.
Speaker 1: And I did not I did not know. This is
Speaker 1: the first time I'm talking about this, by the way,
Speaker 1: I did not know whether he was still on the
Speaker 1: show or not. Like he could have had this girl
Speaker 1: in Bachelorette in his closet in the back room. I
Speaker 1: had no idea because I refused to talk about the Bachelor, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't want that to be the reason we were talking.
Speaker 1: And so I would watch the show with this guy
Speaker 1: I just connected with. Is he going to kick it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: He's still on the show. She chose him, He's still
Speaker 1: on the show. And then I would get a call
Speaker 1: from him like we're talking, and he's.
Speaker 2: Wait, you guys were talking at this time already because
Speaker 2: you mhow airs later?
Speaker 1: Okay, you know.
Speaker 2: You DM him then when before he was on the show.
Speaker 1: I think I DMed him during when he went to
Speaker 1: the final I don't know women tell all something. I
Speaker 1: don't know something later Oh, okay, the show. Then he
Speaker 1: ends up on the show, got it, And toward the
Speaker 1: end of the show, we start dming. We started texting
Speaker 1: each other, and so we were full on talking for
Speaker 1: a couple months and me not knowing if he was
Speaker 1: Literally I didn't tell you. We just didn't. We didn't talk.
Speaker 2: What are you crazy? No, that would have been my
Speaker 2: first question, Are you engaged?
Speaker 1: No? I think I knew this a woman. I think
Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't changed, and he was home, so
Speaker 1: it made sense. But I seriously did not want to
Speaker 1: talk about the damn show.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we just connected, you know, and he doesn't live
Speaker 1: in La so we didn't see each other. Otherwise I
Speaker 1: may have gotten more specific, but we're just talking, you know.
Speaker 1: And then the night he got kicked off, my daughters
Speaker 1: were there with me, and we're celebrating.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, why did he get kicked off?
Speaker 1: Because it was faith that he was going to be
Speaker 1: with me?
Speaker 2: Right? Is he happy he got kicked off? I'm looking
Speaker 2: at him, I'm like, I see, I see I had not.
Speaker 1: Is he happy that he got kicked off? So?
Speaker 2: Okay, So how long are you guys? I'm dating for how.
Speaker 1: Long he's better with? How long? Five months? Five months?
Speaker 1: Six months?
Speaker 2: What makes us different than anything else?
Speaker 3: Oh? You know what?
Speaker 1: You know? You just don't know how bad you had
Speaker 1: it until you have one thousand and I always apologize
Speaker 1: to him, like I want to say. When we first met,
Speaker 1: I say, you have no baggage, everything's good, you know,
Speaker 1: don't worry like and then you're in it and you're
Speaker 1: being treated right, and you realize you had baggage, and
Speaker 1: you have baggage because.
Speaker 2: What is one of the things that you bring to
Speaker 2: the table that isn't the prettiest version of yourself.
Speaker 1: It's hard to just accept kindness.
Speaker 2: Now something else, give me something.
Speaker 1: Else, something that I bring that's not good.
Speaker 2: That he would be that you really.
Speaker 1: It's just because that's too like Sacraine sweet, this accepting
Speaker 1: kindness thing. Oh god, I bring so much. He's just
Speaker 1: so accepting of all my horrible things.
Speaker 2: But we'd be like, I need to work on this.
Speaker 1: My insecurities just because I became insecure in a relationship
Speaker 1: that wasn't perfect. And you meet someone and you wonder
Speaker 1: why they love you, because.
Speaker 2: Does that insecurity come out in ways of insecurity?
Speaker 1: You know, just like insecurity, you know, just tell me.
Speaker 1: I know you do, but tell me. I know how
Speaker 1: you feel, but just tell me. But he tells me
Speaker 1: in so many ways, all the damn time, all the time, and.
Speaker 2: Then you realize how it should have been the entire time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all are in love? Do you want to
Speaker 2: get married again?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He's just giving me the eyebright raises. He's just mister
Speaker 2: GQ in the corner over there. He's like, I got
Speaker 2: a peek in which I would love for him.
Speaker 1: Care, can you come here?
Speaker 2: I'm on Mark Marketing Mark. He wants his come on,
Speaker 2: come on in.
Speaker 1: He would have gone through glam if he had known.
Speaker 2: You know, did they ask you to be the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 5: It's an application process, the application process.
Speaker 2: Would you have done it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: Wow, the show wasn't for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what piece of it was wasn't for you? What
Speaker 2: piece wasn't What piece of it that was? Like? What? What?
Speaker 2: Why wasn't it what you liked?
Speaker 5: Because I already have something?
Speaker 2: Well no, no, I know, but when you were on it?
Speaker 5: I mean I went there.
Speaker 4: For a specific like I was looking for something when
Speaker 4: I went there, and for me, I didn't find. Like
Speaker 4: the experience for me was fantastic, Like it was the
Speaker 4: best thing that could have happened to me at that time. Sure,
Speaker 4: because it helped me grow as a person because of
Speaker 4: the other men that were there.
Speaker 5: That was for me, like the experience of a lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it could ever be replicated, you know,
Speaker 3: like I could never I don't think that could ever improve,
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't think that could be ever
Speaker 3: done again.
Speaker 2: Have you all mingled the kids together?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: How is that?
Speaker 1: We had Christmas? We all met in Branson, Missouri, all
Speaker 1: of our kids and spouses and boyfriends and girlfriends, and
Speaker 1: it was wild because all of our kids are about
Speaker 1: the same age and so it was I don't know,
Speaker 1: possibly the best time I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 2: Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy, games like constant, like just like
Speaker 1: drinking games and games.
Speaker 5: And outdoor ping pong, pool like botchy ball like name it.
Speaker 1: We did it as Joey, his son in law to be,
Speaker 1: is an ex or maybe current tennis instructor. And there
Speaker 1: were racquetball or what is it pickleball?
Speaker 2: Course you were there, no, I know it's trending in the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he was teaching everybody and there's ping
Speaker 1: pong and like, oh, it was just like it was heaven.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's something to be said about the
Speaker 2: relationships you find post divorce when you're older, because not
Speaker 2: only have I grown post my divorce, but also I
Speaker 2: know my husband, my now husband, has too, and he's
Speaker 2: learned how to love me better in this marriage too,
Speaker 2: and I know how to love I think if we
Speaker 2: would have met even in my thirties, I don't think
Speaker 2: I would have treated him the way that I know
Speaker 2: a man deserves to be treated, and I think vice
Speaker 2: versa so I think there's something to be said. Taking
Speaker 2: some of the things that we didn't do perfectly in
Speaker 2: our marriage before, whether it was our fault or not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then bringing you know, the growth into a new
Speaker 2: relationship I think is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: So, but I do believe that you've been a great
Speaker 1: guy and giving and carrying your whole life. I may
Speaker 1: not have been, but you have been. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really believe he's been like that forever. And I want
Speaker 1: to I have not met his mother yet, and I
Speaker 1: just want to hug her and thank her because someone
Speaker 1: raised you right, man, like you're a good person.
Speaker 2: And you want to get married too. Yeah, I love
Speaker 2: this stry to do it right now. I'm actually an
Speaker 2: ordained minister. I'm not at all that is that is?
Speaker 2: And are you still acting?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You still do? I wait, you just did a were
Speaker 2: you on Lifetime?
Speaker 1: I probably?
Speaker 2: I feel like I just saw you in something? But yeah,
Speaker 2: we need my.
Speaker 1: Daughter and something. Now, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's do it and not the jealous type.
Speaker 1: No him, Yeah, I think he. I haven't given him
Speaker 1: the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Okay, because if you ever been with an actress before, No,
Speaker 2: because my husband struggles with that piece of it, I.
Speaker 1: Think he might like if I like, I'm talking for you.
Speaker 1: But and you know what, if he didn't have a
Speaker 1: problem with it, I would have a problem with the
Speaker 1: fact that he was.
Speaker 2: Just going to say. And I love the fact that
Speaker 2: he is, like my husband's like you are you know
Speaker 2: you're mine and you know you're my girl, and I
Speaker 2: don't want you around like that.
Speaker 1: And so if he said, by honey, knowing that you're
Speaker 1: going on like.
Speaker 2: Some god ever didn't care, and I'm like, you don't care,
Speaker 2: like not even a piece of you who is Like
Speaker 2: there's a carry.
Speaker 5: Like but there's a little difference between something you've done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something you're doing right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean to see like to watch the
Speaker 5: one Tree.
Speaker 2: Hill, right you did you see Won Tree Hill before
Speaker 2: she slid into your damns? Not at all. But I've
Speaker 2: just finished you well, Okay, Alan's got to get a
Speaker 2: talking to you because he still will not watch. I
Speaker 2: mean I haven't either, but like he you know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: but I see what you're saying.
Speaker 5: But it's different to see it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 5: like a relationship.
Speaker 6: I would imagine that she's had relationships before we met,
Speaker 6: you know, it's just that you don't see it right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would recommend not going to a set when she
Speaker 2: does have to have a kissing scene because it's just
Speaker 2: not comfortable for anyone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean and that part I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's I've never experienced that sure, right,
Speaker 6: So I mean as a career, right, I would.
Speaker 5: Never say you can't yeah, right, but I would need
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't like when that time.
Speaker 2: Comes, right, Guys that haven't you know, And I get
Speaker 2: that just does have.
Speaker 5: A hard time with that for her if I were
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 2: Well, yes and no, because it's like if we've dated
Speaker 2: actors before, because that's what I always tell my husband.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I've dated actors. It's not a big
Speaker 2: deal because we know that it's not anything. It's just yeah,
Speaker 2: literally nothing. It's not it's not sexy, it's not intimate.
Speaker 2: The I always believe the intimate stuff happens in the
Speaker 2: trailer when it's when the yell cut. That's that's when
Speaker 2: you have to be careful crossing lines and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So really, on camera, it's just there's so many people watching.
Speaker 2: It's not a sexy thing. And that's what I always
Speaker 2: try to tell my husband because it's like, it's not
Speaker 2: what you think it is. I have zero feelings for
Speaker 2: this person. I have zero butterfliester like nothing like, it's
Speaker 2: it's all mechanical. Yeah, but you know, I always say,
Speaker 2: he's like, well, you wouldn't like it if I did.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not an actor, so you haven't done
Speaker 2: it a lot.
Speaker 1: I really wouldn't.
Speaker 2: So yeah, not an actor. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's like, well, maybe I'll do it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: Like this is like that you're not an actress. I
Speaker 2: don't understand that piece of it. But but I also
Speaker 2: understand their insecurity. Sure, you know, going to the office
Speaker 2: and making out with someone like, I get that. But
Speaker 2: we'll see when it happens. But seriously, my d can
Speaker 2: issue go get a pint.
Speaker 1: So I would be like like, yeah, yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 1: is work today, honey, that's okay. Yeah, we'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: see how you act if that ever happens.
Speaker 2: Well, stay tuned. Yeah, and thank you Mark for joining us.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Barb Brah'm say so glad we got
Speaker 2: to so great. Finally do this, Let's go, Let's go
Speaker 2: to Paris and go shopping.
Speaker 1: Do that. Yeah, I have a list, I know what
Speaker 1: I want to get there.
Speaker 2: And this is just a reminder to the ladies out
Speaker 2: there because I cried in my bed too when I
Speaker 2: got divorced and I was like, no one will ever
Speaker 2: love me. And then you finally meet the person you
Speaker 2: love yourself and then you finally meet the person that
Speaker 2: how you should have been treated the entire time.
Speaker 1: And I do think this is also cliche, but you
Speaker 1: do need to like focus on you the time for
Speaker 1: every while. You can't just jump into something else, which
Speaker 1: is what I've done in the past. So focus on
Speaker 1: yourself and you can't lie, like you can't say, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's all about me now and then I'll meet somebody.
Speaker 1: You just have to be unaware. You have to truly
Speaker 1: make it happen. I want a love with yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always wanted to leave knowing that I had
Speaker 2: an OP and I realized and that I was like,
Speaker 2: all right when I was leaving and I knew I
Speaker 2: had no options, and I really that's what I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I have like I am doing this. I
Speaker 2: have to do this myself. And figure out how to heal,
Speaker 2: and you know, we learn. Yeah, we live and we learn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good. It all works out in the end.
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 2: It does all right. Love you, Thank you, Jason, thanks
Speaker 2: for coming up.