WEBVTT - Where There’s a Wilmington, There’s a Way with Barbara Alyn Woods 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.320 Okay, I'm so excited because we now have Barbara on 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:17.919 and Barbara played Nathan Scott, Nathan Scott's mother deb Yeah, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.279 we never met apparently, which I just don't. I feel 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:23.760 like we did, but I guess we didn't. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.279 No, I feel like I know you, but we never 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.760 I mean, I know we didn't cross paths on the show, 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.560 but then you think, like post show, we would have, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:32.919 but I really don't think we have. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.120 I want to know your least favorite part about working 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.960 on the show, and then your best. Start with the least, okay, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.240 and with the best. We're going to go do it, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.159 and then we're going to go I want to know 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.839 my personal stuff because I just found out something that 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.680 I had no idea about and I'm really excited to 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:48.360 talk about it. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.840 So, oh my god, Okay, I'm going to deep immediately. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.040 Okay, go worst part. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.480 So worst part is sort of post show when I 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.120 found out all the stuff that happened on the show, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.200 and me being like a maternal figure in my own life. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.480 The fact that I wasn't almost like you don't know immediately, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.679 I didn't know half the stuff I didn't know any 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.160 of the stuff that was going on on the show, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.520 and I wish I had been there, and I've I've 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:18.039 already like offered many apologies to my co stars, and 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.840 I just wish. I feel like I could have made 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.360 a difference because I like being a sounding board. I 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.280 have a good ear, and it just broke my heart 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.759 when I heard that. You know, obviously things weren't happening 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.399 to me because I was like one hundred and thirty 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:37.399 years old according to no But seriously, I was in 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.360 that environment. I was so you know, it didn't happen 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.280 to me, So I was just oblivious to everything. So 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.000 I think that's the worst part of it, because honestly, 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:47.680 I don't have anything bad to say. While I was 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.800 on the show. It was such a great experience for me. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 Because how old were you when you started the show? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.440 Oh my god, I have no idea. They're like thirty 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.040 six maybe the sex Yeah, And it's so funny that 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.600 the writers were painting us the parents is like the 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.760 old people, and we're like thirty six years old, And 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.480 I think I felt old because of that. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.320 Well, that's that was one of my questions too, for you, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.959 because I just played a mom in a movie to 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.079 oh the f sixteen year old, and I really struggled 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.080 with It's. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:18.880 Like, do they see me that old? 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.480 Well, so I've played a mom before, but to littles 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.040 to a teenager. But I was like, am I old 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.680 enough to have a sixteen year old? And my best 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.480 friend Catherine, She's like, well, I have a sixteen year old? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:28.600 I know. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.320 I was like, I know, but like we're like, but 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.520 like you started. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.480 Yeah, it's movie mom, It's Hollywood mom. Like it's different. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.399 But there was something though when I was filming that 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.760 and where I was just like I really had it 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.520 because I'm like, I've now aged out? Have I officially 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:49.040 aged out of the my thirty you know, mid thirty 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.200 year roles? Am I now just always going to be 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.520 the mom? And I had a really really hard time 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.760 kind of rest and I'm like and I but I 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.519 am a mom, Like I'm a mom to three, and 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.000 you know, it's so it was just but I think 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.480 that the older kid piece of it was that I 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.640 struggled with for some reason, I know, because I've always 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.920 just thought like, no, I'm the the young door right now, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:11.880 but I'm not an important I. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.360 Know, the first time that you're not the youngest person 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.840 in the room right anymore. Like I'm looking around like, okay, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.200 you know, it's it's a weird feeling. But as long 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:21.120 as you stay young up. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.040 Here, yeah, no, for sure, cliche. That's that's true, and 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.720 we grow and that's great that we continue to be 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:27.480 casted in those things. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.840 Yeah, and as long as you're hoping that's all that. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:35.920 Been right, Okay, So yeah, no, I don't beat yourself 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.480 up about not for this. I can understand that would 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.440 be really tough. But even then, it's he was going 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.840 to do. Yeah, I mean I still we had he 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.680 I remember he texted me one time and it was 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.680 he said, you know, I'm flying you out to New York. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.600 You're going to become a serious regular, like can't wait 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.240 to celebrate. Maybe I'll just like maybe I'll come to 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.280 your room. And I remember calling my boy at the 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.800 time of going, I need you to get to New 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.000 York because I don't know what to do. When he like, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.840 he's the he just made me a series of the show, 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.720 and so my boyfriend flew to New York for that 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.440 to be there and then when he knocked I was 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.560 like he showed up I'm sorry, you know, like I didn't, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.599 and then he went to someone else in the guest 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.960 So once he knew that I was, you know, not 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.560 available for that, he then moved on to someone else. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.479 So when it was you know, it's it's sick. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.080 I'm sorry. I mean, it's just like I honestly wish 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.000 I knew and I probably could not have made a difference, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.960 but in my mind I think I could have. I mean, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.960 just to be someone to talk to, just to be 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.360 the mother figure to all these girls who didn't have 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.919 mothers there in Wilmington, North Carolina, you know, just like, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.120 let's all get together and figure out what to do here. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.120 And when all this came out later, I was in denial. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.839 I couldn't believe it happened because I thought I would 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:54.280 have known. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.159 I think the piece that always frustrated me was did 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.200 you just hire me because you thought, oh ex or 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.520 did you hire me because I was a good actress? 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:02.960 And I think that piece kind of wrestled with me 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.640 a little bit because, yeah, you know what, you have 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.960 hired me if I was married, I know, you know, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.880 maybe not. There's something, Oh do you want to get 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:11.279 into that? 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.760 You know? Sold me two stuff. I can tell you 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.640 so many stories. Take your ring off for an audition, 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:17.440 you know, like. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:22.040 Uh yeah, it's disgusting. But anyway, here are you. How 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.279 were you? You were married, you have kids? You were 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:25.599 married for how many years? 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:27.160 Twenty something? 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.119 Twenty something years? And then you have how many kids? 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:31.000 Have three kids? 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.400 Three girls? They're all actors. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:38.040 When did you get divorced six years ago for a reason? 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.760 Or was it just like a long time it was 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.240 a long time coming. Okay, yeah, it was one of 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.560 those were you scared to start over? 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.000 Oh my god, can I tell you something? 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:48.640 Yeah? 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.800 So there was. I was just telling the girls. There 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.120 was a period of my time in my life, there 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.720 was a period of time where I sort of looked 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.679 for people who were struggling, Like whether it was watching 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.279 a movie, you're watching a TV show, or watching a podcast, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.160 anybody who was struggling. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:07.400 Just totally come on. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.960 My entering was accidental that I saw one of your podcasts. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.120 Oh my god, I'm getting goosebumps now, and here I'm 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.359 talking to you and you were talking about and you 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.840 were just an open book talking about your struggle, what 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.760 you were going through with your ex, and it made 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.360 I'm sorry, but it made me feel so good, like 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.960 misery loves company kind of thing, but you're so beautiful 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.839 and young and vibrant, and like, if she's going through it, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.040 it made me feel tiny bit better that I was 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:43.880 going through it. And seriously like that it your misery 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.599 made me feel sorry. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.520 No, I'm sorry, but I mean but I get it though, 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:49.440 But it was a misery. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.160 It was that you were open about it. And there's 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.240 nothing to be ashamed of because you know, these things 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.720 happen to everybody, and let's all share the story and 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.279 we'll all feel like we're all in the same boat, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:06.120 you know, like we're not perfect. No, and if anyone 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.120 can relate, I have stories to tell. If anyone can 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.800 relate and benefit from it makes me feel better. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.920 What was the piece that did you think that you 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:16.880 would find love again? 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.440 Or no? No? And I was okay with that, Like 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.880 I really came to terms. And I don't want to 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.280 keep saying like it as you get older, but as 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.600 you do get older, and I have my girls, They're 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.040 my love, they're my relationships, they're my romance, they're my everything. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.320 And I got to a point where I was really 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.240 okay with that. Yeah, and you know, I hang out 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.920 with their friends. They're my friends. And I don't go 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.480 to bars and I don't really go out. I'm a homebody. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.480 And where am I going to meet someone? And I, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.239 you know, my girls sign me up for the dating apps. Ew, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:55.040 It's just like and then when you least expect it 0:07:55.480 --> 0:08:00.520 and it met your person. So cliche, but it happened. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.600 I just found this out. I didn't watch the Golden Bachelor. Yeah, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:18.480 and so I just found out that you were dating 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.120 someone who was on that show. Yeah, so okay, help 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.240 me get that timeline. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.120 Okay, was he I want to know the truth or 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.320 do you want to know the story? We tell? 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.360 I heard her rumor that you slid into his dams. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.679 Well that's the truth. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.360 That's the truth, okay, And that's okay. My husband that 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.680 I'm married to now slid into my DMS and he 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.240 hates He literally hates it when I say that. He's like, 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.719 I respectfully reached out to you politely and wanted to 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.880 meet you. I was like, but you slid into my DMS, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.640 like you straight up, So it's like you wanted to 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.040 meet That's what it is. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.320 Yeah, And why is it a little bit different if 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.360 a girl does it to a guy. I'm not sure, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.680 but maybe it makes more. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.960 How did you see him? To begin with? 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:01.760 So his daughter was on the Bachelor's testing, and so 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.800 they went to their hometowns. And this is coincidentally, I 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:06.360 was which. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.439 The which show? Which which Bachelor? Joey Joey? Okay, I 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:10.080 didn't watch that one. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.760 Yeah, shoot, So I was on the couch. This is something. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.360 This is like a tradition. Oh, like a year I 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.080 don't know, like a couple of years ago, like the 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.319 last season, not the one that's the one before it, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.599 I think. And we've been watching The Bachelor forever, me 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.520 and my girls sitting on the couch like what not 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.640 to do? Like training. We call it school because I 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.480 homeschooled them, Like okay, got in our school. So I 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.960 was talking to my youngest about this is you want 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.960 a guy that looks at you and smiles and like 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.360 welcomes people. And coincidentally, we were watching the show and 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.920 this guy in the background, who is the dad, smiled 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.960 and I said, That's what I'm talking about right there, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.280 That's what I'm talking about. Kind of forgot about it, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.880 and then they asked him to be on the Golden Bachelor. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.160 And like, oh, there's my boyfriend. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.240 I was joking, the Golden Bachelor, the last one, the 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.280 Golden the Golden Bacherette. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.040 I asked her to be a contestant because I guess 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.600 I wasn't the only one who noticed his smile when 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.480 he was in the background. And he ends up on 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.400 the Golden Bachelorette, and I was joking with my daughters like, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.200 oh my god, my boyfriend's going to be on the show. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:25.200 He's oh my god, what play Wait? How long were 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:25.840 you on the show for? 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.480 That's what I'm talking about on the show? And he was. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:33.520 I didn't watch that one either. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.680 It was a contestant, so he was on until the 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:36.280 very end. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:37.960 Were you like the final runner up? 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.280 He was, No, there's more So all of a sudden, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.400 we cannot because I slimmed his damns and we connect 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:45.840 and we're talking. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.559 So angry at you right now. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:51.440 And I did not I did not know. This is 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.520 the first time I'm talking about this, by the way, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.200 I did not know whether he was still on the 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.319 show or not. Like he could have had this girl 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.160 in Bachelorette in his closet in the back room. I 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.880 had no idea because I refused to talk about the Bachelor, like, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.840 I didn't want that to be the reason we were talking. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.400 And so I would watch the show with this guy 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.199 I just connected with. Is he going to kick it? 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:14.360 Oh? 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.640 He's still on the show. She chose him, He's still 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.040 on the show. And then I would get a call 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.400 from him like we're talking, and he's. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.640 Wait, you guys were talking at this time already because 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.319 you mhow airs later? 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:25.240 Okay, you know. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.760 You DM him then when before he was on the show. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.840 I think I DMed him during when he went to 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.160 the final I don't know women tell all something. I 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.719 don't know something later Oh, okay, the show. Then he 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.880 ends up on the show, got it, And toward the 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.200 end of the show, we start dming. We started texting 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:51.600 each other, and so we were full on talking for 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.120 a couple months and me not knowing if he was 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.880 Literally I didn't tell you. We just didn't. We didn't talk. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.640 What are you crazy? No, that would have been my 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.360 first question, Are you engaged? 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.920 No? I think I knew this a woman. I think 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.840 I knew he wasn't changed, and he was home, so 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.400 it made sense. But I seriously did not want to 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:13.640 talk about the damn show. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:14.200 Okay. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.960 So we just connected, you know, and he doesn't live 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.600 in La so we didn't see each other. Otherwise I 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.480 may have gotten more specific, but we're just talking, you know. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.760 And then the night he got kicked off, my daughters 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.040 were there with me, and we're celebrating. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.720 Like, oh, why did he get kicked off? 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.920 Because it was faith that he was going to be 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:33.200 with me? 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:38.280 Right? Is he happy he got kicked off? I'm looking 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.720 at him, I'm like, I see, I see I had not. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.360 Is he happy that he got kicked off? So? 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.160 Okay, So how long are you guys? I'm dating for how. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:51.920 Long he's better with? How long? Five months? Five months? 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:52.920 Six months? 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.840 What makes us different than anything else? 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:55.600 Oh? You know what? 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.839 You know? You just don't know how bad you had 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:06.000 it until you have one thousand and I always apologize 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.480 to him, like I want to say. When we first met, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.600 I say, you have no baggage, everything's good, you know, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.000 don't worry like and then you're in it and you're 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:18.000 being treated right, and you realize you had baggage, and 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.720 you have baggage because. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.560 What is one of the things that you bring to 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.320 the table that isn't the prettiest version of yourself. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.960 It's hard to just accept kindness. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.959 Now something else, give me something. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.319 Else, something that I bring that's not good. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.439 That he would be that you really. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.840 It's just because that's too like Sacraine sweet, this accepting 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.680 kindness thing. Oh god, I bring so much. He's just 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.040 so accepting of all my horrible things. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.240 But we'd be like, I need to work on this. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:59.199 My insecurities just because I became insecure in a relationship 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:03.439 that wasn't perfect. And you meet someone and you wonder 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.120 why they love you, because. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.640 Does that insecurity come out in ways of insecurity? 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.520 You know, just like insecurity, you know, just tell me. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.880 I know you do, but tell me. I know how 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.840 you feel, but just tell me. But he tells me 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:25.160 in so many ways, all the damn time, all the time, and. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:30.320 Then you realize how it should have been the entire time. Yeah, 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:44.720 I mean, y'all are in love? Do you want to 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:45.360 get married again? 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:46.480 Yeah? 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:46.880 Do you? 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:49.760 Yeah? 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.280 He's just giving me the eyebright raises. He's just mister 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.280 GQ in the corner over there. He's like, I got 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.960 a peek in which I would love for him. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.920 Care, can you come here? 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.040 I'm on Mark Marketing Mark. He wants his come on, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:07.680 come on in. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.680 He would have gone through glam if he had known. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:15.040 You know, did they ask you to be the Golden Bachelor? 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.600 It's an application process, the application process. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.400 Would you have done it? 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:19.040 No? 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:19.240 No? 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.120 Wow, the show wasn't for me? 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.640 Yeah, what piece of it was wasn't for you? What 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.880 piece wasn't What piece of it that was? Like? What? What? 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.200 Why wasn't it what you liked? 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.720 Because I already have something? 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.440 Well no, no, I know, but when you were on it? 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:42.960 I mean I went there. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.640 For a specific like I was looking for something when 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.800 I went there, and for me, I didn't find. Like 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.920 the experience for me was fantastic, Like it was the 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.520 best thing that could have happened to me at that time. Sure, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.480 because it helped me grow as a person because of 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.600 the other men that were there. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.640 That was for me, like the experience of a lifetime. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:14.160 Yeah. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.040 And I don't think it could ever be replicated, you know, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:24.000 like I could never I don't think that could ever improve, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.960 you know, like I don't think that could be ever 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:26.520 done again. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.840 Have you all mingled the kids together? 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:31.680 Yes? 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:33.240 How is that? 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.720 We had Christmas? We all met in Branson, Missouri, all 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.640 of our kids and spouses and boyfriends and girlfriends, and 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.080 it was wild because all of our kids are about 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.200 the same age and so it was I don't know, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.280 possibly the best time I've ever had in my life. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:51.920 Like it was. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:57.440 It was so crazy, games like constant, like just like 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.080 drinking games and games. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:04.440 And outdoor ping pong, pool like botchy ball like name it. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.760 We did it as Joey, his son in law to be, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.480 is an ex or maybe current tennis instructor. And there 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.920 were racquetball or what is it pickleball? 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.600 Course you were there, no, I know it's trending in the. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.120 Yeah, and so he was teaching everybody and there's ping 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.040 pong and like, oh, it was just like it was heaven. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.280 I feel like there's something to be said about the 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.040 relationships you find post divorce when you're older, because not 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.000 only have I grown post my divorce, but also I 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.840 know my husband, my now husband, has too, and he's 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.400 learned how to love me better in this marriage too, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.639 and I know how to love I think if we 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.520 would have met even in my thirties, I don't think 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.000 I would have treated him the way that I know 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.800 a man deserves to be treated, and I think vice 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.919 versa so I think there's something to be said. Taking 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.520 some of the things that we didn't do perfectly in 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.919 our marriage before, whether it was our fault or not. Yeah, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.959 and then bringing you know, the growth into a new 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:05.520 relationship I think is a beautiful thing. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.359 So, but I do believe that you've been a great 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.800 guy and giving and carrying your whole life. I may 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.560 not have been, but you have been. I mean, I 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.400 really believe he's been like that forever. And I want 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.320 to I have not met his mother yet, and I 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.439 just want to hug her and thank her because someone 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.960 raised you right, man, like you're a good person. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.920 And you want to get married too. Yeah, I love 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.560 this stry to do it right now. I'm actually an 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.280 ordained minister. I'm not at all that is that is? 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:42.560 And are you still acting? 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:43.200 Yeah? 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.800 You still do? I wait, you just did a were 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:46.480 you on Lifetime? 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:47.440 I probably? 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.000 I feel like I just saw you in something? But yeah, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:51.600 we need my. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.159 Daughter and something. Now, let's do it. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.080 Let's do it and not the jealous type. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:02.439 No him, Yeah, I think he. I haven't given him 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:03.320 the opportunity. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.800 Okay, because if you ever been with an actress before, No, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.520 because my husband struggles with that piece of it, I. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.680 Think he might like if I like, I'm talking for you. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.760 But and you know what, if he didn't have a 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.879 problem with it, I would have a problem with the 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:17.680 fact that he was. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.080 Just going to say. And I love the fact that 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.199