1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm so excited because we now have Barbara on 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: and Barbara played Nathan Scott, Nathan Scott's mother deb Yeah, 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: we never met apparently, which I just don't. I feel 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: like we did, but I guess we didn't. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: No, I feel like I know you, but we never 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we didn't cross paths on the show, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: but then you think, like post show, we would have, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: but I really don't think we have. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: I want to know your least favorite part about working 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: on the show, and then your best. Start with the least, okay, 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: and with the best. We're going to go do it, 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: and then we're going to go I want to know 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: my personal stuff because I just found out something that 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: I had no idea about and I'm really excited to 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: talk about it. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: So, oh my god, Okay, I'm going to deep immediately. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Okay, go worst part. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: So worst part is sort of post show when I 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: found out all the stuff that happened on the show, 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: and me being like a maternal figure in my own life. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: The fact that I wasn't almost like you don't know immediately, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: I didn't know half the stuff I didn't know any 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff that was going on on the show, 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and I wish I had been there, and I've I've 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: already like offered many apologies to my co stars, and 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: I just wish. I feel like I could have made 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: a difference because I like being a sounding board. I 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: have a good ear, and it just broke my heart 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: when I heard that. You know, obviously things weren't happening 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: to me because I was like one hundred and thirty 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: years old according to no But seriously, I was in 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: that environment. I was so you know, it didn't happen 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: to me, So I was just oblivious to everything. So 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the worst part of it, because honestly, 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't have anything bad to say. While I was 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: on the show. It was such a great experience for me. 38 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Because how old were you when you started the show? 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have no idea. They're like thirty 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: six maybe the sex Yeah, And it's so funny that 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the writers were painting us the parents is like the 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: old people, and we're like thirty six years old, And 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: I think I felt old because of that. 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's that was one of my questions too, for you, 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: because I just played a mom in a movie to 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: oh the f sixteen year old, and I really struggled 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: with It's. 48 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Like, do they see me that old? 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, so I've played a mom before, but to littles 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: to a teenager. But I was like, am I old 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: enough to have a sixteen year old? And my best 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: friend Catherine, She's like, well, I have a sixteen year old? 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: I know. 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I know, but like we're like, but 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: like you started. 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's movie mom, It's Hollywood mom. Like it's different. 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: But there was something though when I was filming that 58 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: and where I was just like I really had it 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: because I'm like, I've now aged out? Have I officially 60 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: aged out of the my thirty you know, mid thirty 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: year roles? Am I now just always going to be 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: the mom? And I had a really really hard time 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: kind of rest and I'm like and I but I 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: am a mom, Like I'm a mom to three, and 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's so it was just but I think 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: that the older kid piece of it was that I 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: struggled with for some reason, I know, because I've always 68 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: just thought like, no, I'm the the young door right now, 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: but I'm not an important I. 70 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Know, the first time that you're not the youngest person 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: in the room right anymore. Like I'm looking around like, okay, 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a weird feeling. But as long 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: as you stay young up. 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Here, yeah, no, for sure, cliche. That's that's true, and 75 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: we grow and that's great that we continue to be 76 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: casted in those things. 77 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as long as you're hoping that's all that. 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Been right, Okay, So yeah, no, I don't beat yourself 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: up about not for this. I can understand that would 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: be really tough. But even then, it's he was going 81 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, I mean I still we had he 82 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: I remember he texted me one time and it was 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: he said, you know, I'm flying you out to New York. 84 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: You're going to become a serious regular, like can't wait 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: to celebrate. Maybe I'll just like maybe I'll come to 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: your room. And I remember calling my boy at the 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: time of going, I need you to get to New 88 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: York because I don't know what to do. When he like, 89 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: he's the he just made me a series of the show, 90 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: and so my boyfriend flew to New York for that 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: to be there and then when he knocked I was 92 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: like he showed up I'm sorry, you know, like I didn't, 93 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: and then he went to someone else in the guest 94 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: So once he knew that I was, you know, not 95 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: available for that, he then moved on to someone else. 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: So when it was you know, it's it's sick. 97 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean, it's just like I honestly wish 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I knew and I probably could not have made a difference, 99 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: but in my mind I think I could have. I mean, 100 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: just to be someone to talk to, just to be 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: the mother figure to all these girls who didn't have 102 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: mothers there in Wilmington, North Carolina, you know, just like, 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: let's all get together and figure out what to do here. 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: And when all this came out later, I was in denial. 105 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it happened because I thought I would 106 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: have known. 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: I think the piece that always frustrated me was did 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: you just hire me because you thought, oh ex or 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: did you hire me because I was a good actress? 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: And I think that piece kind of wrestled with me 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: a little bit because, yeah, you know what, you have 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: hired me if I was married, I know, you know, 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: maybe not. There's something, Oh do you want to get 114 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: into that? 115 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: You know? Sold me two stuff. I can tell you 116 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: so many stories. Take your ring off for an audition, 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, like. 118 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's disgusting. But anyway, here are you. How 119 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: were you? You were married, you have kids? You were 120 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: married for how many years? 121 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Twenty something? 122 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 2: Twenty something years? And then you have how many kids? 123 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: Have three kids? 124 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Three girls? They're all actors. 125 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: When did you get divorced six years ago for a reason? 126 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Or was it just like a long time it was 127 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: a long time coming. Okay, yeah, it was one of 128 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: those were you scared to start over? 129 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I tell you something? 130 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 131 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: So there was. I was just telling the girls. There 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: was a period of my time in my life, there 133 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: was a period of time where I sort of looked 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: for people who were struggling, Like whether it was watching 135 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: a movie, you're watching a TV show, or watching a podcast, 136 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: anybody who was struggling. 137 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: Just totally come on. 138 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: My entering was accidental that I saw one of your podcasts. 139 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm getting goosebumps now, and here I'm 140 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: talking to you and you were talking about and you 141 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: were just an open book talking about your struggle, what 142 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: you were going through with your ex, and it made 143 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it made me feel so good, like 144 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: misery loves company kind of thing, but you're so beautiful 145 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and young and vibrant, and like, if she's going through it, 146 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: it made me feel tiny bit better that I was 147 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: going through it. And seriously like that it your misery 148 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: made me feel sorry. 149 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, but I mean but I get it though, 150 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: But it was a misery. 151 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: It was that you were open about it. And there's 152 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of because you know, these things 153 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: happen to everybody, and let's all share the story and 154 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: we'll all feel like we're all in the same boat, 155 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, like we're not perfect. No, and if anyone 156 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: can relate, I have stories to tell. If anyone can 157 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: relate and benefit from it makes me feel better. 158 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: What was the piece that did you think that you 159 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: would find love again? 160 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Or no? No? And I was okay with that, Like 161 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I really came to terms. And I don't want to 162 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: keep saying like it as you get older, but as 163 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: you do get older, and I have my girls, They're 164 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: my love, they're my relationships, they're my romance, they're my everything. 165 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: And I got to a point where I was really 166 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: okay with that. Yeah, and you know, I hang out 167 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: with their friends. They're my friends. And I don't go 168 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: to bars and I don't really go out. I'm a homebody. 169 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: And where am I going to meet someone? And I, 170 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: you know, my girls sign me up for the dating apps. Ew, 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: It's just like and then when you least expect it 172 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: and it met your person. So cliche, but it happened. 173 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: I just found this out. I didn't watch the Golden Bachelor. Yeah, 174 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: and so I just found out that you were dating 175 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: someone who was on that show. Yeah, so okay, help 176 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: me get that timeline. 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: Okay, was he I want to know the truth or 178 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: do you want to know the story? We tell? 179 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: I heard her rumor that you slid into his dams. 180 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: Well that's the truth. 181 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: That's the truth, okay, And that's okay. My husband that 182 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm married to now slid into my DMS and he 183 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: hates He literally hates it when I say that. He's like, 184 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: I respectfully reached out to you politely and wanted to 185 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: meet you. I was like, but you slid into my DMS, 186 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: like you straight up, So it's like you wanted to 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: meet That's what it is. 188 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And why is it a little bit different if 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a girl does it to a guy. I'm not sure, 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: but maybe it makes more. 191 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: How did you see him? To begin with? 192 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: So his daughter was on the Bachelor's testing, and so 193 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: they went to their hometowns. And this is coincidentally, I 194 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: was which. 195 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: The which show? Which which Bachelor? Joey Joey? Okay, I 196 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: didn't watch that one. 197 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot, So I was on the couch. This is something. 198 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: This is like a tradition. Oh, like a year I 199 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know, like a couple of years ago, like the 200 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: last season, not the one that's the one before it, 201 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: I think. And we've been watching The Bachelor forever, me 202 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and my girls sitting on the couch like what not 203 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: to do? Like training. We call it school because I 204 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: homeschooled them, Like okay, got in our school. So I 205 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: was talking to my youngest about this is you want 206 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: a guy that looks at you and smiles and like 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: welcomes people. And coincidentally, we were watching the show and 208 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: this guy in the background, who is the dad, smiled 209 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: and I said, That's what I'm talking about right there, 210 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Kind of forgot about it, 211 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: and then they asked him to be on the Golden Bachelor. 212 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: And like, oh, there's my boyfriend. 213 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: I was joking, the Golden Bachelor, the last one, the 214 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: Golden the Golden Bacherette. 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: I asked her to be a contestant because I guess 216 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one who noticed his smile when 217 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: he was in the background. And he ends up on 218 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelorette, and I was joking with my daughters like, 219 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, my boyfriend's going to be on the show. 220 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: He's oh my god, what play Wait? How long were 221 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: you on the show for? 222 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about on the show? And he was. 223 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: I didn't watch that one either. 224 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: It was a contestant, so he was on until the 225 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: very end. 226 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Were you like the final runner up? 227 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: He was, No, there's more So all of a sudden, 228 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: we cannot because I slimmed his damns and we connect 229 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: and we're talking. 230 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: So angry at you right now. 231 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: And I did not I did not know. This is 232 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: the first time I'm talking about this, by the way, 233 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: I did not know whether he was still on the 234 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: show or not. Like he could have had this girl 235 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: in Bachelorette in his closet in the back room. I 236 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: had no idea because I refused to talk about the Bachelor, like, 237 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want that to be the reason we were talking. 238 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: And so I would watch the show with this guy 239 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: I just connected with. Is he going to kick it? 240 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 241 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: He's still on the show. She chose him, He's still 242 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: on the show. And then I would get a call 243 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: from him like we're talking, and he's. 244 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: Wait, you guys were talking at this time already because 245 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: you mhow airs later? 246 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay, you know. 247 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: You DM him then when before he was on the show. 248 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: I think I DMed him during when he went to 249 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the final I don't know women tell all something. I 250 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: don't know something later Oh, okay, the show. Then he 251 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: ends up on the show, got it, And toward the 252 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: end of the show, we start dming. We started texting 253 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: each other, and so we were full on talking for 254 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: a couple months and me not knowing if he was 255 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Literally I didn't tell you. We just didn't. We didn't talk. 256 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: What are you crazy? No, that would have been my 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: first question, Are you engaged? 258 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: No? I think I knew this a woman. I think 259 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't changed, and he was home, so 260 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: it made sense. But I seriously did not want to 261 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: talk about the damn show. 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 263 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: So we just connected, you know, and he doesn't live 264 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: in La so we didn't see each other. Otherwise I 265 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: may have gotten more specific, but we're just talking, you know. 266 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: And then the night he got kicked off, my daughters 267 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: were there with me, and we're celebrating. 268 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Like, oh, why did he get kicked off? 269 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Because it was faith that he was going to be 270 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: with me? 271 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: Right? Is he happy he got kicked off? I'm looking 272 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: at him, I'm like, I see, I see I had not. 273 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Is he happy that he got kicked off? So? 274 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So how long are you guys? I'm dating for how. 275 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: Long he's better with? How long? Five months? Five months? 276 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Six months? 277 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: What makes us different than anything else? 278 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: Oh? You know what? 279 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: You know? You just don't know how bad you had 280 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: it until you have one thousand and I always apologize 281 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: to him, like I want to say. When we first met, 282 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: I say, you have no baggage, everything's good, you know, 283 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: don't worry like and then you're in it and you're 284 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: being treated right, and you realize you had baggage, and 285 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: you have baggage because. 286 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: What is one of the things that you bring to 287 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: the table that isn't the prettiest version of yourself. 288 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to just accept kindness. 289 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: Now something else, give me something. 290 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: Else, something that I bring that's not good. 291 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: That he would be that you really. 292 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: It's just because that's too like Sacraine sweet, this accepting 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: kindness thing. Oh god, I bring so much. He's just 294 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: so accepting of all my horrible things. 295 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: But we'd be like, I need to work on this. 296 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: My insecurities just because I became insecure in a relationship 297 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: that wasn't perfect. And you meet someone and you wonder 298 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: why they love you, because. 299 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: Does that insecurity come out in ways of insecurity? 300 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, just like insecurity, you know, just tell me. 301 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: I know you do, but tell me. I know how 302 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: you feel, but just tell me. But he tells me 303 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: in so many ways, all the damn time, all the time, and. 304 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: Then you realize how it should have been the entire time. Yeah, 305 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean, y'all are in love? Do you want to 306 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: get married again? 307 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 308 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: Do you? 309 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: He's just giving me the eyebright raises. He's just mister 311 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: GQ in the corner over there. He's like, I got 312 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: a peek in which I would love for him. 313 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Care, can you come here? 314 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm on Mark Marketing Mark. He wants his come on, 315 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: come on in. 316 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: He would have gone through glam if he had known. 317 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: You know, did they ask you to be the Golden Bachelor? 318 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: It's an application process, the application process. 319 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Would you have done it? 320 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: No? 321 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: No? 322 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: Wow, the show wasn't for me? 323 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what piece of it was wasn't for you? What 324 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: piece wasn't What piece of it that was? Like? What? What? 325 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: Why wasn't it what you liked? 326 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: Because I already have something? 327 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: Well no, no, I know, but when you were on it? 328 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: I mean I went there. 329 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: For a specific like I was looking for something when 330 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: I went there, and for me, I didn't find. Like 331 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: the experience for me was fantastic, Like it was the 332 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: best thing that could have happened to me at that time. Sure, 333 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: because it helped me grow as a person because of 334 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: the other men that were there. 335 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: That was for me, like the experience of a lifetime. 336 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 337 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: And I don't think it could ever be replicated, you know, 338 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: like I could never I don't think that could ever improve, 339 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, like I don't think that could be ever 340 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: done again. 341 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: Have you all mingled the kids together? 342 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 343 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: How is that? 344 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: We had Christmas? We all met in Branson, Missouri, all 345 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: of our kids and spouses and boyfriends and girlfriends, and 346 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: it was wild because all of our kids are about 347 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: the same age and so it was I don't know, 348 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: possibly the best time I've ever had in my life. 349 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: Like it was. 350 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: It was so crazy, games like constant, like just like 351 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: drinking games and games. 352 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 5: And outdoor ping pong, pool like botchy ball like name it. 353 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: We did it as Joey, his son in law to be, 354 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: is an ex or maybe current tennis instructor. And there 355 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: were racquetball or what is it pickleball? 356 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: Course you were there, no, I know it's trending in the. 357 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he was teaching everybody and there's ping 358 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: pong and like, oh, it was just like it was heaven. 359 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: I feel like there's something to be said about the 360 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: relationships you find post divorce when you're older, because not 361 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: only have I grown post my divorce, but also I 362 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: know my husband, my now husband, has too, and he's 363 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: learned how to love me better in this marriage too, 364 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: and I know how to love I think if we 365 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: would have met even in my thirties, I don't think 366 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: I would have treated him the way that I know 367 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: a man deserves to be treated, and I think vice 368 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: versa so I think there's something to be said. Taking 369 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: some of the things that we didn't do perfectly in 370 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: our marriage before, whether it was our fault or not. Yeah, 371 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: and then bringing you know, the growth into a new 372 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: relationship I think is a beautiful thing. 373 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: So, but I do believe that you've been a great 374 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: guy and giving and carrying your whole life. I may 375 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: not have been, but you have been. I mean, I 376 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: really believe he's been like that forever. And I want 377 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: to I have not met his mother yet, and I 378 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: just want to hug her and thank her because someone 379 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: raised you right, man, like you're a good person. 380 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: And you want to get married too. Yeah, I love 381 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: this stry to do it right now. I'm actually an 382 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: ordained minister. I'm not at all that is that is? 383 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: And are you still acting? 384 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 385 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: You still do? I wait, you just did a were 386 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: you on Lifetime? 387 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: I probably? 388 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I just saw you in something? But yeah, 389 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: we need my. 390 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: Daughter and something. Now, let's do it. 391 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: Let's do it and not the jealous type. 392 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: No him, Yeah, I think he. I haven't given him 393 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity. 394 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: Okay, because if you ever been with an actress before, No, 395 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: because my husband struggles with that piece of it, I. 396 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: Think he might like if I like, I'm talking for you. 397 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: But and you know what, if he didn't have a 398 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: problem with it, I would have a problem with the 399 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: fact that he was. 400 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: Just going to say. And I love the fact that 401 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: he is, like my husband's like you are you know 402 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: you're mine and you know you're my girl, and I 403 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: don't want you around like that. 404 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: And so if he said, by honey, knowing that you're 405 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: going on like. 406 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Some god ever didn't care, and I'm like, you don't care, 407 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: like not even a piece of you who is Like 408 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: there's a carry. 409 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 5: Like but there's a little difference between something you've done. 410 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, something you're doing right. 411 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean to see like to watch the 412 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: one Tree. 413 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Hill, right you did you see Won Tree Hill before 414 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: she slid into your damns? Not at all. But I've 415 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: just finished you well, Okay, Alan's got to get a 416 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: talking to you because he still will not watch. I 417 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: mean I haven't either, but like he you know, but yeah, 418 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: but I see what you're saying. 419 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: But it's different to see it's kind of like, you know, 420 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: like a relationship. 421 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 6: I would imagine that she's had relationships before we met, 422 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 6: you know, it's just that you don't see it right, right, Yeah. 423 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: I would recommend not going to a set when she 424 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 2: does have to have a kissing scene because it's just 425 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: not comfortable for anyone. 426 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean and that part I don't know. 427 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's I've never experienced that sure, right, 428 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 6: So I mean as a career, right, I would. 429 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: Never say you can't yeah, right, but I would need 430 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't like when that time. 431 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Comes, right, Guys that haven't you know, And I get 432 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: that just does have. 433 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: A hard time with that for her if I were 434 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: to do it. 435 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: Well, yes and no, because it's like if we've dated 436 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: actors before, because that's what I always tell my husband. 437 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, but I've dated actors. It's not a big 438 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: deal because we know that it's not anything. It's just yeah, 439 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: literally nothing. It's not it's not sexy, it's not intimate. 440 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: The I always believe the intimate stuff happens in the 441 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: trailer when it's when the yell cut. That's that's when 442 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: you have to be careful crossing lines and all that stuff. 443 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: So really, on camera, it's just there's so many people watching. 444 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: It's not a sexy thing. And that's what I always 445 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: try to tell my husband because it's like, it's not 446 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: what you think it is. I have zero feelings for 447 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: this person. I have zero butterfliester like nothing like, it's 448 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: it's all mechanical. Yeah, but you know, I always say, 449 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: he's like, well, you wouldn't like it if I did. 450 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not an actor, so you haven't done 451 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: it a lot. 452 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. 453 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, not an actor. So I'm like, you know, 454 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: he's like, well, maybe I'll do it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, 455 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: Like this is like that you're not an actress. I 456 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: don't understand that piece of it. But but I also 457 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: understand their insecurity. Sure, you know, going to the office 458 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: and making out with someone like, I get that. But 459 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: we'll see when it happens. But seriously, my d can 460 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: issue go get a pint. 461 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: So I would be like like, yeah, yeah, yeah, how 462 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: is work today, honey, that's okay. Yeah, we'll see, we'll 463 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: see how you act if that ever happens. 464 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Well, stay tuned. Yeah, and thank you Mark for joining us. 465 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Barb Brah'm say so glad we got 466 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: to so great. Finally do this, Let's go, Let's go 467 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: to Paris and go shopping. 468 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Do that. Yeah, I have a list, I know what 469 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: I want to get there. 470 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: And this is just a reminder to the ladies out 471 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: there because I cried in my bed too when I 472 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: got divorced and I was like, no one will ever 473 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: love me. And then you finally meet the person you 474 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: love yourself and then you finally meet the person that 475 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: how you should have been treated the entire time. 476 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: And I do think this is also cliche, but you 477 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: do need to like focus on you the time for 478 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: every while. You can't just jump into something else, which 479 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: is what I've done in the past. So focus on 480 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: yourself and you can't lie, like you can't say, Okay, 481 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: it's all about me now and then I'll meet somebody. 482 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: You just have to be unaware. You have to truly 483 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: make it happen. I want a love with yourself. 484 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always wanted to leave knowing that I had 485 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: an OP and I realized and that I was like, 486 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: all right when I was leaving and I knew I 487 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: had no options, and I really that's what I was like, 488 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: all right, I have like I am doing this. I 489 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: have to do this myself. And figure out how to heal, 490 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: and you know, we learn. Yeah, we live and we learn. 491 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good. It all works out in the end. 492 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: It's all good. 493 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: It does all right. Love you, Thank you, Jason, thanks 494 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: for coming up.