1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You're about to hear a clip from one of our 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Patreon exclusive episodes. To hear the entire episode, sign up 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com Slash Jenkins and Jones. Okay, Gentlemen, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: on a scale of true and not true, I would 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: like you to rate the following statement by Jackson staff 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: on this Celtics game has reached peak Warriors level as 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: a garanteed big offensive run in every single game they play. Gentlemen, 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: how do you evaluate that statement? How do you evaluate 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: that statement? 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: We got to give Jackiet to fall on that one. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: First dog. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: They were up twenty two straight playoff games. 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: I think I was right about that. 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 4: They What I didn't what I left off was the 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: inevitable collapse. Oh that, oh Joe, the rugs part I 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: actually kind of nailed. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: So you got the boy, you know I meant. 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: And they took a big run to ninety points last game. 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 5: They were up by twenty points in the I'm. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: Gonna say, you're comparing them to the peak Warriors, and 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: they scored ninety points at home. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 4: That's because they didn't hit a few goals for seven minutes. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: It wasn't because of the big run they had in 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 4: the first half, it's because they didn't hit a field 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: goal for seven minutes. 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: You don't feel like that's contrary to the state you 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: made and comparing them to the best offensive team fourth quarter. 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: See the thing about. 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: Those Warriors teams when they had to those leagues, when 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: they had those third quarter runs, you knew the game 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: was overdough like, like you could not watch the fourth quarter. 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 6: It was a rap. 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: If you were going to beat that Warriors team, you 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: were going to win by six or eight points in 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: a rock fight, right like you weren't going to to 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: come back when they went up twenty on you. So 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of the distinction here between those squads. 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: It's fine. 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: And if you're down fifteen to the Warriors, if they're 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: you're only up fifteen, that ain't shit. That's a two 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: and a half minutes. They could be up in five 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: by five, you know what I mean? 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: So very different. 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, twenty point comebacks and back to back games, 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: and I hate Big Saint Louis nigga, My mom my, 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: Mom hit me up. I'm like, mom, Miss Saint Goop 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: with a crib left, Like damn double down? 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: How bad it is right now? 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: For Jason Tatum. I didn't know why. I don't know 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 5: why they did this, or maybe they it was just 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 5: planned and the timing is unfortunate. I just got a 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 5: text five minutes ago from a to a Twitter link 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: of a Superman commercial they just dropped for Jason Tatum, 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: Who's gonna replace He's dressed like Clark Kent and there's actual. 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Superman and Superman. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Again. 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: I just watched on you thirty seconds before he started, 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 5: and Superman goes away or something, and they're like, who's 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: going to replace Superman? 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: Who's going to replace Superman? 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 5: And Jason Tatum is walking around dressed like in a 62 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: suit like Clark Kent. 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: So I mean maybe putting money behind it. They got 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to y'all boss, you know it was was was on 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: his show talk about he checks every box. 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 6: For Fay No no Colin. Colin kind of hopped off that. Remember, 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 6: he was like, you close your eyes, think of MJ. 68 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 6: You think of moments, close your eyes, think, close your eyes, 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 6: think of Tatum. 70 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing like remember he did that fitted recently. 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Bro. 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: I think tat a bad wagon. 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: I see things when I think of Jason Tatum. 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: I'm a big. 75 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: Fan of the man, but God damn dog, you know 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: what I mean? 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: They were They were calling of Jason tatoomb on Twitter, 78 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and people were earnestly being like, it's disrespectful to button. 79 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: You can't no. 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: That final shot, that final. 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Possession. 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: No, my, I mean the possession before that boom got 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: the boom? Cool? 84 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 6: You feel me? 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: Aggressive when needed? He showed up, you know what I mean, 87 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: final possession. But I didn't understand any of that. No 88 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: decision that was made once he crossed half court made 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: sense to me. 90 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Crazy, man, I want to say this, man, I think 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Tatum is an incredible player. Yes, you know, he's six'. 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: Ten he can, shoot he can, dribble he's great at, 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: facilitating he can, defend he can do everything you wanted 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: to do, Right and it feels like it's an annual, 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: thing a yearly conversation during the regular season where it's, 96 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: like we're not talking About Jason tatum. ENOUGH i don't 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: think people realize how Good Jason tatum. Is jason's almost AN. Mvp, yeah, 98 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah Jayson tatum should be in THE mvp. Discussion Jason 99 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: tatum's top, three top, five and we don't talk about 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: this guy. Enough wait till this. Postseason then the postseason, 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: happens and it's, like, NOW i think we talked About tatum. 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: ENOUGH i think, NO i think we properly evaluate. Him 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: he's a top fifteen ish guy or, so you, know 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: AND i think THAT i think that we properly do 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: not boost him up during the regular. Season, hey this 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: postseason ship, matters, dog you. 107 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: CAN i. 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: Know but last week we're talking about the. Postseason he 109 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: was solid the. Finals he didn't look like, himself but 110 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: he was solid in the. Postseasons AND i feel me he's. 111 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: Had Two blackbustern, finals, like let's. 112 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: Finally, yeah, okay, finals but. Postseason you said, postseason my, 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: nigga this Ain't Dames, Harden, okay he'd. BE i mean 114 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: the nigga will drop a thirty forty ball in the. 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: Postseason you, know he looks solid as fuck. 116 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: ME i mean giving up two twenty point leads at 117 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: home where you just, say, yeah where you are two? 118 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Games that's not, Okay. Chang, Look i'm my whole thing 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: Is i'm not changing the EVER i. Said we're properly 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: evaluating this. Dude he's talking in the top, fifteen and 121 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: we do not even put him in these top three. 122 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: Combos like people advocate for him doing the regular, Season 123 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: that's What i'm. Saying, Look, bro you cannot give up 124 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: two twenty point leads at the crib and in those 125 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: final moments you are doing step back threes On Jalen. 126 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: Brunson Mical bridges is coming into the fourth quarter having 127 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: zero points and instant the game having more points than. 128 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: You after you play forty two minutes of that, game 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: you Are you're. Total you are shooting twelve for forty 130 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: two in these two. 131 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: Games, bro bro b that's a nasty. 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Stretch. 133 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Louis we SHOW i still think The setters can. Win 134 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: they've proven that they're solid when they actually fucking play, 135 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: basketball you know WHAT i. 136 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Mean against The. 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: Knicks, hey, bro we'll, see but all valid points, Understand 138 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: i'm not going and this nigga can't show up in 139 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: the fucking. Postseason, No i'm not there. 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: YET. Tho, okay we're learning That john Loves Saint louis 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: more Than jackson loves The. 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: Celtics i'm just letting that's that's. 143 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: Why, actually Like i'm sitting in, This i'm just. 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: In child like. This LIKE i, Said i'm not bearing the, 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: dude my whole thing is is we have these discussions 146 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: every regular, season like this, postseason he's gonna take that 147 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: leap and establish himself as a top three dude in the, 148 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: world and it just doesn't. Happen he's going to be 149 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: a top ten guy, forever it feels, like and that's. 150 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: Incredible that's incredible to. 151 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: Be, Yes, Yeah i'm not mad At that's All i'm. 152 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 6: Saying m