WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Have They Done Enough Yet? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:17.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.640 label broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:28.320 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and new He scrugs. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.919 All right, players last on a Friday, eleven thirty social time. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.760 You know we're coming at you here. I'm knew, he scrugs. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.960 Longtime Cowboys reported joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.000 I guy, Danny mccraig has taken the week all We 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.559 have a full hour with a whole lot of topics 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.720 to get to. We are going to give you our opinions. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.440 You may not like it, but we're gonna tell it 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.600 like it is. That's the job of the players. Und 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.840 Here brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Church. How 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.480 are we doing? Man? I'm blue good man. It's a 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.800 beautiful day out there in the Metro place. Man. The 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.760 sun shining might get around, the golfing might not, but 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.399 you know, it's a beautiful day and I'm on the 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.959 plays now. So like I said before, Man, where else 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:14.399 would you rather be? I thought about what time do 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.319 you do you like your tea times for golf morning afternoon. Okay, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.640 I'm more of a morning guy because, like you know, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.600 I dropped my kid off at school and I like 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.280 to get on the course right after that. So I'm 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.360 more of a you know, nine am type guy. Knock 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.240 it out, knock the three and a half hours out 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:31.839 and they still have the rest of the day. I'm 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.840 not I'm not a big one afternoon golf because you 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.360 feel like you did a whole day and you get 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.199 the whole days gone. So I'm more of a morning guy. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.959 But speaking of that newing, you need to get out 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.600 there with me. Man, I'm telling you you need to 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.800 get out there with me. Have you played Craig Craig 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.800 Ranch at all? No? I had not played Craig Ranch. Hit. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:52.200 I had not. Okay, Um, I've got a date right 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.280 now to play next month, and UM let me see 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.400 if I can get you squeezed in on this. Um, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:05.640 I'll tell you everything. Okay, I'll do that. I'll do that. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.560 We'll try to make make it make a morning to 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.120 on that out there in McKinney. M the Cowboys with 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.440 a whole lot of news this week last night making 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.880 news where they signed Demante CAZy, a free safety with 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.000 the Atlanta Falcons, who defensive coordinator Dan Quinn would had 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.040 him when he was a head coach, and um the 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.840 secondary coach of the Cowboys, Joe was with him last year. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.640 So this is a guy locked in here. Church, You 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.120 and I we spoke about this, and I set my 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.880 desire that if you're going to hire dan Quinn, you 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.320 need to allow him to bring in the players who 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.800 can teach and explain his system. Do you want a 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.240 free safety in this type of system? That's what he 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.440 had in Atlanta, which Super Bowl had Earl Thomas up 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.640 there in Seattle. So here's a guy that comes in 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.040 here now, Kazy And by the way, it's pronounced Kazy 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:59.200 like jay Z. CAZy has miss town Achilles in Week four. Okay, 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.280 but he's a seven years old. Here's the guy that 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.520 led the NFL one year and picks. So you have 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.760 gone through a tourn Achilles. What does it take to 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.720 get back and what should Cowboy fans realistically expect from 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.440 Kazy next year coming off that Achilles which you tour 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.960 a week four rollo, I mean Achilles Achilles injury. Admits 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.640 it's not it's not what it used to be, you know, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.760 in the past, like the early nineties, early two thousands, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.560 where if you had an Achilles injury, it was over, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.040 your career was done. Medicine has brought us a long way. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.639 Technology and all that has brought us a long way. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.240 So achilles, they aren't as devastating as they once were. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.280 You still, I believe you still never get that same explosiveness, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.040 that same pop that you had previous to the Achilles, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.440 but you can't get close to it. And thankfully for 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.960 Kaz when he comes out here, he has a training 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.880 staff with the Dollas Cowboys who are very familiar with 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.360 the Achilles injuries. I mean myself, they rehad me. I 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.200 was able to come back, started every game from thirteen 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:01.200 to sixteen. And Tyron Crawford is another case. Tore his achilles, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.520 and he's a different body type. He's a ors a 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.760 defensive lineman, and they were able to rehab him and 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.440 get him going and he was able to sound a 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.960 big contract afterwards and have a lengthy career. So for me, 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.320 they have a lot, they know a lot about the 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.680 injury and they know how to rehab it. So Casey 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.800 should be in great hands with this training staff. But 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.640 in saying that, realistically, I feel like CAZy when he 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.440 comes back that first year out of your achilles injury, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.680 it's a little tough. It's a little tough, your little stiff. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.039 But as you get back going into things, he should 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.159 be able to get back and get back rolling quick 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.800 because he's a younger guy, so he should be able 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.680 to get back in there and get rolling quick. And 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.120 this is a guy, like you said Nui, who knows 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.040 the system he was in then quint system. He knows 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.279 that he's that high whole safety, and he has some 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.440 versatility to him because he can play the nickel as well, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.760 so he's a versatile rangey safety. And that's when he 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.440 and you have been clamoring for this whole offseason, we 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.640 need a vet guy in the back end, like a CAZy, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.559 who knows the system, who can get these young guys 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.720 lined up. It looked like it was between him or 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.560 Hook and they chose Hazy. To me, I'm not so 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.320 sure about that. Maybe we'll talk about that a little 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.880 bit later. But the guy they're getting, he's a ball hawk, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.520 win healthy, and if he can get back to any 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.720 type of semblance of what he was when he was 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.839 in Atlanta and that whole safety. He can be a 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.320 benefit for this defense. Let's just hope he's able to 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.960 kind of recapture that ball hockey mentality when he gets 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.880 here in Damas. All right, let's stay right there. Okay, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.160 you want You spoke about Malik Hooker for a first 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.240 round draft pick from Ohio State. So did you want 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.520 Hooker over Kazy? Oh? Yeah, I mean nothing against Casey, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.480 but I just felt like Hooker. He's a bigger body. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.320 I felt like he can be more interchangeable because I 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.880 know they'd like to run his high hold. But if 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.640 you get interchangeable safeties, you can go back and forth 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.520 and offenses can't just key on them. Oh this guy's down, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.160 they must be in this type of defense, or when 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.920 this guy comes in, they must be in man to man. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.760 So I feel like he'd be more interchangeable. They're both 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.000 good ranging safeties, but they come off of injury history. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.840 As if we know the Hooker, he's coming off with 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.719 achilles as well, so they both had their injury histories. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.080 So for me, a raw I would have chosen Hooker 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.720 because I feel like he's more of an interchangeable guy. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.080 But CAZy is not. You know, that's not a knock 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.960 against Casey because he can go into that slot as 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.200 well and play Nicols. So they're both versus guys. But 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.719 I think I would have leaned towards Hooker, but not 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.640 a bad sign at all by getting Casey. See, I'm 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.320 the opposite on this. I wanted Kazy because I go 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.000 back to this thing we've talked about bringing in someone 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.200 who knows and understands your system. And I got this 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.359 from former Dallas Cowboys defensive back Thurman Thomas. He was 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.000 an assistant in Baltimore with Rex Ryan, and so when 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.080 Rex Ryan got the head coaching job with the Jets, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.560 he went with him and he became the defensive coordinator. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.920 So they brought Jim Leonard, the safety who could teach 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.839 the guys on the back end. Then they brought in 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.520 Bart Scott, the linebacker who could teach those guys right 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.120 there in the middle. And I can't remember who they 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.880 brought in on the defensive line, but they brought three 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.800 guys from Baltimore with them, and they had to pay them, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.120 but that was what they were trying to do. Hey, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.320 let's teach these guys the defense and look the Jets. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.840 From a defensive standpoint Underrect Ryan, they were a good 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.279 football team and once a playoffs. Offensively, they had their issues. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.080 And I go back to my time when I covered 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.600 the Lakers where Phil Jackson took over and he brings 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.840 in a John Salis. John Sali's biggest experience was he 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.720 could teach Shaquille O'Neil what a big man needed to 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.080 do within a triangle. And then Phil also brought in 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.960 Ron Harper and once again the experience that he brought 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.520 that the most valuable asset was teaching Kobe Bryant. Hey, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.320 this is what we're looking to do. This is what 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.640 tex what wants run, this is what Phil is looking for. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.280 And for me, when I look at Kazy, hey, if 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.800 you've finally got somebody here as a safety who can 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.120 tell these guys and I'm expecting them to go with 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.080 young corners, Okay, you already got dig Let's say they 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:42.880 use one of those draft picks on the corner that 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:48.560 here's a guy, right, but tell people this is what 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.160 you want, this is what you want to do. And 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.080 I just think that's a benefit, and that to me 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.440 is why I would I said Kazy over Hooker because 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.800 now Joe Vitt also knows he could talk to this guy. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.320 So now you've got two people in the room speaking 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.880 the same language to anyone and everyone else. The head 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.360 I mean, the assistant coach at your position, your defensive coordinator, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.600 and now you've got him adding Keyan O'Neil, who they 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.119 also signed. Um. I just think now you've got two 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.880 levels where people have an understanding of what is wanted 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.920 by the defensive coordinator. Neil is going to start in 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.800 the linebacker room. Got that from head coach Mike McCarthy 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.680 yesterday when I went out to the start. He spoke 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.080 to the meeting and we got to meet with him 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.240 for the first time and over a year. So I 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.760 want to get your take. Also, one year deal for Casey, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.319 one year Neil for one year deal for Neil who 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.719 also played down in Atlanta for Quinn and Joviti. Your 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.319 take on him. Yeah, I think that was an extremely 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.800 solid acquirement of you know, Keian o'mill. Like, I don't 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.760 think it's a you know, flashy big name like, oh, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.559 we're just one pick that we're one Keyan O'Neil away 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.800 from being a super Bowl contender. Like I don't think 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.080 it's that type of pick, but I think in the 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.040 role that he'll play, hopefully the role that he'll play, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.440 I think it's an extremely solid pick. I don't like 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.480 him as in every down safety. I know you said 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.400 he's gonna start with the linebackers, and I hope that's 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.480 the case. I hope they found like a little niche 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.160 for him there that I don't like him as in 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.400 every down safety. He's more of that box safety. It 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.600 can blitz, he can cover the tight ends a little 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.240 bit here, and Mary can play some zone, be that 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.200 enforcer type guy in that secondary, kind of like a 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.000 Cam Chancellor. So I see the role that he wants 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.400 to that he might build a niche for is that 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.679 sub package linebacker, whether he comes in for Vander esh, 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.720 whether he comes in for Jalen Smith, because we know 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.560 both of those linebackers on third down can be liabilities 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.200 in coverage. And I'm not saying, you know, Keyan O'Neill 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.480 is is you know, Earl Thomas or something. He's covering 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.280 all the wards stuff as well. But I think he's 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.800 a better guy in space and a better coverage guy 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.000 than those two linebackers. So I would love for him 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.120 to come in on third downs, be that sub guy, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.880 be that guy, that that enforcer, that blitzer kind of 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.480 cover the scatbacks or the tight ends here and there. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.480 I like that role for him, that he won't be 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.040 in every down guy, so when he comes in, he'll 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.079 be super fresh, and I think that's what they need 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.120 out there. We talked, we talked about this on earlier 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.719 podcasts with the Players Lounge, that you feel they need 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.839 that cover linebacker and he might get a safety back 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.640 you know by nature, but he can come in. He's 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.640 big enough to be that guy. He's big enough to 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.160 be that cover linebacker, and I think he can. He 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.480 can benefit being in that role as a third down 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.120 kind of sub guy to help this secondary and help 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.520 this team overroad. I was talking with Rodney Harrison of 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.920 NBC Sports and Rodney lives down in Atlanta, and that 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.600 was the thing he told me about Cantley. He says, 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.920 don't put him in safe and can't come he cannot cover, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.360 But he says, put him down there in the box 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.480 and having covering some linebackers, he can help you. And 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.920 to me, I look at this and say, did you 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.400 improve your football team? I feel like they improved the 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.440 football team, and yes that and this is where fans 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.080 get get old, you know, a little salty and one 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:58.560 year deals you're looking at, in my opinion, some stop gaps. Hey, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.920 let's just put let's plug this hole in right now. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.600 It's not permanent, but it's gonna plug it right now 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.280 and will make it secure. So maybe there are more 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.200 additions that come via the draft. Maybe there's an addition 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.480 that comes that there's a post June one cut and 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.880 somebody is able to come to you, But for now, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.839 it's about can you put a group that you can 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.160 line up on defense right now? And to me, I 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:26.640 look at having Kasey as an improvement over Xavier. To me, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:32.040 that's how I feel, and I think that, okay, all right, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.600 and bringing in Neil is an improvement. On the third linebacker. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.200 You have Sean Lee. Loves Sean Lee personally, but he's 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.080 older and Sean Lee's availability was always in question and 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.120 Joe Thomas has gone. So I look right there and 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.840 I say, okay, this is this is major football team 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.120 better and they know what the coordinator wants. How many 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.520 times did we do the players allows last year? And 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.040 you said, do guys know what in the world they're 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.920 doing out there. Do they have an understanding of what 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.080 right wants? And I think that's the biggest thing that 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.200 dan Quinn hopefully he can bring down to this Dallas 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.280 defense is just a simple, simplistic style defense where guys are, Okay, 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.280 this guy motioned over here, we gotta check to A 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.080 and B or this down emotion over here, we gotta 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.319 have a check here. You saw the gears turning last year. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.640 It was just too much. Guys were thinking too much 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.960 out there and it costs his team. So hopefully he 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.320 can bring down that simple defense. He got some tools 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.880 with him. We talked about the carpenter needed his tools, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.960 so he brought some tools with him. He asked Kaz 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.600 as the whole safety. And now we've got keyan O'Neil 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.960 hopefully being that sub linebacker, that third down situation guy 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.200 coming in there to fill in that cover spot because 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.360 we knew we knew these two last year Jaden Smith 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.600 and Lvee they were big liabilities in coverage. I feel 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.600 like keyan onil can come in and do what he 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.520 can do on third down against the tight ends or 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.960 against the scatt back. And overall think I think this 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.480 defense has improved. I think bringing up the guys that 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.040 they brought him, it has improved. And I think one 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.520 of the biggest moves that they made was telling all 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.079 this Smith he's not going to be back. I mean 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.720 that opens the door for Randy really need to get 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.360 a lot more snaps. It opened the door for Randy 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.959 Gregory to get a lot more snatched, and I think him, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.160 paired with d Law on that edge, I think they 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.719 could be something fearsome. So I think so far these 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.040 moves as they're not as flashy as some of us 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.240 might want. I think they're solid of raw and they 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.520 improved this team well. When we were speaking with the 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.760 head coach in the media yesterday, Alden Smith was brought up, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.680 and that David Moore, the Dallas payn who's asked the question, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.160 Mike mccarthur was like, hold all player, he said, I 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:40.000 haven't on Alden Smith. That's what that's what hedges And 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.320 so to me, this is just my interpretation. Either Jerry 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.199 hasn't told him we're not bringing him back. But what's 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.480 the thing. We see they've brought back the people they wanted. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.840 Jordan Lewis get self the contract, you know they wanted 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.800 to have him back in the fold. And if they 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.199 wanted Alden Smith, and especially we're talking about a pass rusher, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.400 if you wanted the pass rusher, you'd have made a move. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.920 They didn't make a move. Yes, free agency, free agency 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.680 start anything. Guess what, Nobody else made a move here. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.800 So he's trying to leave it like, hey, it's not 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.520 over all. You know, we could bring it back. And 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.520 I'm just sitting to myself saying, the only way I 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.160 can see Alden Smith. The only way as if they 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.240 don't find anyone in the draft or in free agency 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.320 post June first, then they can go get I just 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.280 I just don't see that guy back, based on how 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.960 we've watched the Cowboys do business so many times. Yeah, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.920 I don't see it at all. I mean, like you said, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.160 Jerry never left the guys. He wants to get out 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.120 of the building. And like you said, he goat Lewis 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.440 back on his deal. We signed a couple of other gas, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.560 we signed a couple of deal women, and we could 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.440 have had that allocation towards I don'tunderstand because I don't 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.160 think he's demanding that much on an open market right now. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.720 But as we've seen last year towards the end of 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.960 the season. Matter thak was, it was probably midway midway 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.080 through the season and beyond where he kind of just 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.600 fell off this cliff, you know. And and I don't 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.480 know if he'd be better suited as a rotational guy 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.720 or and not a starting out of every down guy. 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.280 Maybe he'll get more production that way, But like you said, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.840 I don't see them bringing him back unless something, you know, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.600 maybe an injury happening, he's still on the market, or 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.640 you know, I just don't see an overall coming back. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.280 The production just wasn't there. And there's guys that we 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.200 have in the building now that need the reps. Randy Gregor, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.320 he showed out last year. He deserves to get more 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.680 snaps out there and be that guy opposite the Marcus Lord. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.600 So bringing all the Smith back, I think it just 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.760 clouds the room a little bit. He had a you know, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.720 he had a great story, but I think it's better 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.720 than they both part ways man. And I looked at 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.200 Smith and I was trying. I was trying to find 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.400 out my phone right there because I thought I bookmarked it. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.960 But his production, I mean, you talk about it started 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.640 hot and then basically from the last three months of 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.760 the season. He didn't do anything. You know, the facts, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.440 the pressures, everything was just down. So basically he did everything, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.440 all of his damage in the first month of the 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.200 season and then he fell on And so I just 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.640 think that that whole Olden Smith thing is just like 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.800 Mike Nolan, you tried it, you know what, it failed, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.160 move on along. And I know there's some well they're trying, 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.080 but they're his supporters say, well, knew it was just 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.640 the first year. Let's see what he could do it. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.120 I'm like, no, no, you got a new coordinator. Move on. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.040 And one of the problems I've had buried through the 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.200 years is the Cowboys are the kings of having holding 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.400 on the guys two years too long. Just he's like like, here, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.760 you know, just just move on. You tried it with 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.680 Aldon Smith. It didn't work. McCarthy tried to say, well, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.000 I don't want to get into whole four three three four. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.240 You're trying to run different fronts, multiple fronts all the way. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.640 But no, Alden Smith, no, move on along. I don't 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.480 see them meeting him. It just didn't work. It started 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.840 how it ended, and you can't bury you've played the game. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.400 You know yourself. You can't lie to yourself and if 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.119 you're and I feel like Mike McCarthy's lying to himself 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.240 because he likes all the smith personal exactly like the 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.679 old saying goes man, you don't have to lie to 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.919 kick it all right, Like may my my god, little 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:14.680 we know, you don't want to burn bridges. You don't 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.040 want to make the guy you know you like them 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.480 as a guy. You don't want to kind of just 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.360 cut the acts like that. But we all know, I mean, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.879 this production fell off immensely, and we all know. You know, 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.000 Randy Gregory's right there in the fold. I don't want 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.639 to say we don't beat them, because you never know 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.160 what injuries. But it's just now, I don't think it's 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.159 a good match coming back and going forward. And and 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.440 that's speaking of that Mike McCarthy conference. I mean, he 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:35.960 said a lot of things. You know, we're gonna bring 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.840 to the three four, elements of the three four and 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.680 properties of the fourth three, we're gonna mix them together. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.920 I don't think we need to go down that road. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.520 I mean, we we looked at Las year with Nolan 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.199 with all these multiple looks and different factors and all 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.679 this other stuff, and we look like a complete dumpster 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.320 fire out there. On defense. I think what I think 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.800 needs to happen on this defense, which dan Quinn hopefully 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.440 can bring here, it's just make everything cut and dry. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.560 We're in covering three man. Look, we're in covering three. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.040 You know when we're in let's go, let's play. And 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.640 he had his best success when he had those type 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.440 of defenses. Now he had better players on that defense. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.440 But according to everybody out there, dan quinns a solution. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.160 He could have come in here and make these guys 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.760 sat back into that twenty eighteen form where they were 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.720 Pro Bowls and all over the place. So if he 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.920 can bring there and bring that simple style, I think 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.399 it will been up to us. But we didn't get 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.080 rid of this multiple look, multiple scheme, these properties from here, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.199 these properties from there. I just think it caused too 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.440 much confusion, and it showed last year in this defense. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.240 Here's something I took away from what he said, which 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.280 in my mind I didn't really like what I heard. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.280 I think the best people know exactly what it is 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.960 they do. They know exactly what it's and I would 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.520 like to ask dan Quinn. Dan Quinn, what are you 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.120 running for? Three? Are you running multiple? Three? Four? I mean, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.520 to me, the best ones know who they are. If 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.440 you ask an offensive guy, hey are you are you pass? 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.280 You know your offensive? Passing? Offensive? Running offense? I mean 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.080 you know what you're gonna know what you are. You know, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.920 Andy Reid's a passing offense. That's what he does down 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.240 there in Tennessee. Before Arthur Smith loved to become the 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.160 Atlanta Falcons and coach, you know that was a running 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.679 offense here. You know what you are. Tell me what 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.480