1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I was so thrilled last night to listen to John 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Dickersons with with Steve Colbert, and I really can't say 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: enough about John Dickerson slicing and dicing is the chief 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: political correspondent at CBS and all that they're doing with 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: the nightly news here in the future and joining us now. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan and knows John Dickerson so well. I'm absolutely fascinated. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan of our CBS regroups off of the first 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday of November and reaches out to America with a 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: heritage of Walter Cronkite being Midwest, not being New York. 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: How will CBS reach out to America in the coming 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: days and weeks. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Well, on Sunday, we'll try to understand what's coming next. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So we will speak to Bill Haggerty, the Center from Tennessee, 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: who is widely expected to become a cabinet member and 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: a future Trump administration. He was a US ambassador to 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Japan for Donald Trump and the first term had a 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: role in the transition. We want to talk to him 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: about what reality looks like. You know, there's one thing 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: to say things on the campaign trail. There's another thing 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to actual governance. But what is this 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: mandate that Republicans have with the Senate majority and possibly 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: control of the House. What will it indicate for delivering 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: on some of the campaign promises. 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: I look at this, Margaret, and you know, everybody of 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: all different persuasions just sort of thunderstruck by how America spoke. 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: What have you learned in your reporting from your correspondence 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: in the last four days. What sticks out to you 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: is that one conversation you had with the CBS team. 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: You know, Anthony's Toronto, our head of Elections and Surveys. 30 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: I've fought back a few times to things he said 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: in recent weeks that were, in hindsight, clear warnings for Democrats, 32 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: like they had topped out their support on the issues 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: of reproductive healthcare, states democracy, they weren't growing support. He 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: consistently for months was telling us it's the economy, economy, economy, 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: and inflation very much in Trump for we talked about 36 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: a scenario with a Republican wave, but you know, the 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: polling bill was showing this race gone either way. I 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: think we all Republicans as party members themselves, were surprised 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: at how much they had grown support among men of color, 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: Latino men in particular. We already knew they had the 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: white working class vote, that that you know, so called 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: bro vote had gone to the Trump team a long 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: time ago. But I think we need to talk more 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: about that disconnect. We've try to do it on face 45 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: the nation, but the disconnect between telling people the economic 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: data is good and that not necessarily translating to it's 47 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: going to get three books right your life. Margaret, let's 48 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: me more reportings be done on that. 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Let me bring in my colleague David David with Margaret Brenton. 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: Margaret, nice to speak with you. And you mentioned Bill Haggerty, 51 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I think of him on the Senate 52 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Banking Committee, which of course has been chaired for these 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: last few years by Shared Brown of Ohio. And I'm 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: curious to hear your perspective on sort of how the 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: shape of the Senate changes in light of what we 56 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: had happened this week. So Shared Brown of course no 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: longer on that committee, no longer in the Senate. What 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: did you hear from miss McConnell yesterday as he took 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: that victory lap and sort of what's your sense of 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: the direction of this Republican Senate and sort of how 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: it buffets whatever agenda President Trump puts forward. 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think we're seeing have been in 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: the midst of a massive realignment. So like these old 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: in terms of Republican and Democrats really aren't traditional conservative 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: any longer. Shared Brown was one of those examples of 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: somebody who you know, trying to straddle the divide in 67 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: many ways, as Democrat lost that seat to a Colombian 68 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: American Bernie Uh you know there in Ohio and so 69 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: together Ohio seat will become empty soon as Jade Vans 70 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: moves into the vice see but look that that we're 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: going to watch this race for control and Senate leadership 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: right passing the tour mean that this is their quote 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: unquote the place where stupid stuff goes to die. Does 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: it become a fast track for for Trump policies? Will 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: it be that bar Mitch McConnell had it be Margaret. 76 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I want to jump in, Margaret jump in. We're having 77 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: trouble with the audio. You're up in your helicopter and 78 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: it's just now working out that right now. But Margaret 79 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: Brennan is the host of Face Nation. Look for that 80 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: in the CBS Television Networks Sunday Morning. Listen to facin 81 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Nation Sunday two pm in New York, Washington, ninety two 82 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: nine FM in Boston. Facination This Sunday at two. I'm 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio