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Speaker 1: we're back Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Listen.

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Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of emails, like five hundred thousands

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Speaker 1: So we've had Sally Struther's uh and she played a Bett.

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Speaker 1: character of Kirk? Well, I'm I'm fortunate that I I

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00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: read this great piece in The Atlantic. Um I should be.

426
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: I should shout out to the writer's name, but I

427
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: don't remember her name the top of my head. But

428
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: it explained it way better than I ever could. Um

429
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: where they were. She talked about Kirk as a man child,

430
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: And you know, I always looked at him as being

431
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: a guy who who who like obeyed the rules at

432
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: all costs, um, but would would also would also duck

433
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: them when necessary. Like I don't I don't know how

434
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: I thought of it, but but when you think of

435
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: Kurt as like a nine year old and a grown

436
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: man's body, it all adds up. You know. It's like

437
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: when you think of him as a it's like, oh,

438
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: this is like a little kid who both he's like

439
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: he'll he'll lot if he needs to, but not in

440
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: a bad way, only because maybe he thinks he's not

441
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: gonna get caught. And uh and yeah, I think Kirk

442
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: is um, you know the girl man and list alone

443
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: in his mother's basement, Like what do you very entrepreneurial?

444
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it works everything like he does him all

445
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: the time, you know, like whatever you expected me, like,

446
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: I will do it. And also I have to do

447
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: it or I'll get in trouble. You know, I don't know.

448
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure all this could write, I could say a

449
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: thing or two. So how do you seriously, I mean

450
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: how playing all those different characters and all those hysterically

451
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: funny setups, I mean they really set you up? Um,

452
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: how do you keep a straight face through all of it?

453
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: Especially the hot dog? I mean, how on earth? Okay,

454
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: I have the hot dog. I remember I said recently

455
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: to Amy that I I was like, I wore a

456
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: hot dog suit on the show. And I like to

457
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: think that the character wore a metaphorical hot dog. Um

458
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: like that sto he is in his essence, he's just

459
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: the guy who wears the hot dog suit. Like you

460
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: just know that you look at them and You're like, someday,

461
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see this guy in a hot talk suit. Um,

462
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: I I don't know, man. You know how playing comedy

463
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: you don't. You're not trying to be funny when you

464
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: do comedy, you know, it's like you play this, you

465
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: play the truth of it, and the words carry you.

466
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: So the writing on the show was great. And Kirk's

467
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: never you know, Kirk's never trying to be funny, never

468
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: like never trying to be fun um. And so I

469
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: just like, I just play that. I'd like to try

470
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: to think about what he's thinking about, you know. Um,

471
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: but got some of those things. Who are some of

472
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: your biggest influences as an actor? Did you watch a

473
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: lot of Buster Keaton? Did you watch a lot of

474
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: the Yes, the physical comedians. Yeah, it's funny you say that,

475
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: because yes, Buster Keaton is the first person that I

476
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: would say, and particularly for Kirk, for Kurt the actors

477
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: that I think of all the time, or Buster Keaton

478
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: and a lesser known actor named Eddie Bracken who was

479
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: a Preston Sturgis guy. He was in Hail the Conquering

480
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: Hero and Miracle Morgan's Creek and he was just this

481
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: weird and and I honestly, I think in some ways,

482
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: I think the way I booked the role was that

483
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: I was a fan of those types of movies and stuff.

484
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I think way back to when I was the DSL installer.

485
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I read that scene and I knew like front Page

486
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: and his Girl Friday and and like bringing up Baby

487
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: and those old like film comedy like the Power Hawks,

488
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: presson certain movies. And I read that and I'm like, oh,

489
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: this is this is that, this is like that's how

490
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: this plays, is like it's like those comedies. And I

491
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: think that that's what got me there. Did Amy confirm that?

492
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, did you have those conversations with Amy about

493
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: those films and those characters influencing Kirt No, not until

494
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: years many many many years later, Like so at the time,

495
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: and and I love it Amy so much, like she's

496
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: she's such an amazing talent and has such an amazing brain. Um.

497
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: But it was such great synergy to me for like

498
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: actor and writer that that she confirmed what I thought

499
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: by writing for me, you know what I mean. I

500
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: never had to ask her, Hey, is this what you're thinking?

501
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: Like I would. Then I would get the next scene

502
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: that she would write and it would confirm what I

503
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: was thinking, you know what I mean, So like I

504
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: just knew from how she wrote the character that like, yeah,

505
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm on the right track. I'm doing it right, um,

506
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: which is the greatest Man, I missed, I missed it.

507
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I like, I I feel like at the time to

508
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: when Gilmore Girls was like like it was you know,

509
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: it was awesome and I love doing it, But I

510
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: was also an actor in my twenties and like was

511
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: you know how it is You're wondering what's the next thing?

512
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is great, but what's the next thing?

513
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I now feel like I'm chasing that dragon

514
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, oh, man, being on a

515
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: being on a show where you have a writer who

516
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: understands what your strengths are, just writing to those strengths, Like,

517
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: how's it gonna better than that? Right? Yeah? Well, you

518
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: know your brother, I think the same kind of brain

519
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: and the same kind of talent um because that he does.

520
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: I've been really lucky in that way. Yeah. Those are

521
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: those are extraordinarily well drawn characters and very funny films. Uh,

522
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: And I think you know, the humor in those films

523
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: and the lightness of those films that carries them. Um yeah, um,

524
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: And very few directors have that ability, very few writers

525
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: have that ability. Yeah. Give me the top three Kirk moments.

526
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, was there one specific moment with Kirk that

527
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: really stands out here? And if it was, what was it?

528
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: And is there a top three? I can do this?

529
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: I won't, Um, I won't. I won't say the one

530
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: that I already mentioned. But for me personally, that basket

531
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: scene that I talked about earlier with Jackson is the

532
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: one that sticks out more than any other because it

533
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: was the one that that solidified what I understand about

534
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: the character. But it's not the ones that I love

535
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: the I'll count them down. UM. I loved um. I

536
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: love playing Jesus and the Festival of Living Art. It

537
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: was so fun and I don't know, I don't even remember.

538
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember what your interaction was with that episode,

539
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: but it was a beast man. It was like and

540
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm not incorrect. Um. The only Emmy

541
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: that that show ever one was makeup on that on

542
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: that episode, which was well deserved, by the way, although

543
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, awards are stupid, but I don't know, maybe

544
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: we should have want some more emmies but whatever. Um.

545
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: But like that Festival of Living Art episode, it was

546
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: just so fun and it was so mammoth and it

547
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: was such a like like and I loved the whole

548
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: thing of Kirk, just like getting into character and being like,

549
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: hey man, I'm method, I'm like Jesus and I'm running

550
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: with this. Oh man, it's so much fun. Um. I

551
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: would also say probably probably the Cat Kirk episode Kirk

552
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: gets a cat and names him Kirk. Um. I love

553
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: cats and have always had I've had I've had casts

554
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: as a grown man, and I always wonder if any

555
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: and Dan knew that and thought that that was funny

556
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: and we're kind of like making fun of me on

557
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: that episode. Um, But that one definitely sticks out. But

558
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: the best one you were part of, the best episode

559
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: ever to me was when I played Teva and Fiddler

560
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: on the Roof with the nine year olds. So it's

561
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of nine year olds and he and Kurd,

562
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: which Kirk's in his element, as I said, it's with

563
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: nine year olds, like I'm comfortable here, this is my decent,

564
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: my people, you know. And then there's that scene where

565
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: I sing do you Love Me? With that little Girl.

566
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: And that's my favorite scene in the history of of

567
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: the show where where you and Luke and Lorela are

568
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: like watching each other across the stage from the wings

569
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: of the stage. Um, and it's like this beautiful moment.

570
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: It's like a really romantic and touching moment between you guys,

571
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: well while literally between you, the most absurd thing you

572
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: could possibly imagine it's happening, which is a grown man

573
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: singing do you Love Me? To a nine year old

574
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: girl and playing it and we're playing it straight. I

575
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: remember I remember asking the Great Hermann about that scene

576
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: and being like, and I usually know what to do,

577
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how to play this, like how

578
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: to like, am I am I good? Should I do it?

579
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Should I should go for the laugh? Or should I

580
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: do it as well as possible? And he's like and

581
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: and he gave, of course the perfect advice, which is like,

582
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: just do it, just go for it, just like sing

583
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: sing the song you know, um, which to me like

584
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm feeling something very deep there. But it's hilarious when

585
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: you watch it, it's it's ridiculous, um. And there's all

586
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: to me, that's like the alchemy of the show comes

587
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: together and there's like perfect synergy in that scene. Um. Anyway,

588
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: and there you are again offering the ridiculous absurdity of

589
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: life and the first kiss and you run through naked

590
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: with a pillow covering. Oh yeah, I mean there you were?

591
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, right, the first kiss and

592
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I run through naked. Oh man? Um, alright, So here's

593
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: a here's a question. Did Kirk love Laura La? Did

594
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you love her? You know, there's a there's an episode

595
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: early on where Kirk asked Laura Lae out on a date.

596
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: And I thought it was I thought it was gonna

597
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: be a big episode for me. Not not because not

598
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: because I thought something was gonna happen, but I thought that, like, oh,

599
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: this will be cool. The audience will like feel for

600
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Kirk and like it'll be like heartbreaking and kind of sweet.

601
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: And I looked back on it and it's kind of creepy.

602
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: And that's the point, right, It's kind of the point. Yeah, No,

603
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: I think I mean, you know, I honestly think it's

604
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: that it's more messed up than him loving her. I

605
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: think that he wants her approval. It's like it's like,

606
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, you get into that psychological stuff, but

607
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: like he wants lorea lie to say he's a good boy.

608
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: You know, sorry, sorry to go there, but I mean

609
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: not like the way you want a dog right right

610
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: right right, you know, like not anything more in the

611
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: farious than that. I don't think you know exactly what

612
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: we want you to say. Hey, great job, Like that

613
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: was really you know, and they could have learned that,

614
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Like Luke could have learned that probably, you know, like

615
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to get Kirk away from him

616
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: from hanging out the dinner and just be like, Kirk, man,

617
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: you you look great. You're really killing it. You're like

618
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: and I don't I think Kirk would be like, oh

619
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: my gosh, wow, that's awesome. Like that's that's how you

620
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: would That's how you would win that guy over. I think,

621
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: um oh god uh um. So how did Kirk right,

622
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: how did Kirk feel about Luke? Oh? I do think

623
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: Kirk loved Luke. I mean he's the ultimate. Luke is

624
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: the ultimate man. So like like Luke is the is

625
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the ideal of what a man should be, and so like,

626
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, I do think that that again, it's like

627
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: kurts that that Luke's approval would be the the best

628
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: thing he could he could possibly get. Um, you know,

629
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to like to go back

630
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: and watch some of that stuff. What is the ultimate

631
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Kirk job that you gave yourself in an entrepreneur, you

632
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: started companies, you you tried many different things. What what

633
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: what was the what was your favorite uh job that

634
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: you did? Well, there's a difference between what's my favorite

635
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: and what's the ultimate? Because my favorite was the one

636
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: that was easy for me. So like I loved I

637
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: loved announcing the hockey game because it's like you just

638
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: sit and make jokes for you know, for like two days.

639
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: He just like sitting. He was like, sit down with

640
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: a microphone and and and and do comedy. But um,

641
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think honestly that like that. I gotta

642
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: go back to the hot dog suit. It's like wearing

643
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: a hot dog suit and passing. That's the ultimate. That's

644
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: the true ultimate Kirk job. It's like passing out flyers

645
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: for a hot dog plays. Wearing a hot dog suit.

646
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: It's like brought unexpected joy on the set all day,

647
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: even though you were sweating your brains out. That was heavy, man.

648
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: It was like they didn't even have pads in it.

649
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: It was like two pieces of plywood that just rested

650
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: on my shoulders holding that whole thing up. That was

651
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: one of the worst. I had some bad days on

652
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: that set, and that was one of the worst. I

653
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: also did that I was in the the plexiglass box

654
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: that was suspended over the street where they were like,

655
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, it takes a forklift to get you in

656
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: and out of that thing. So between setups, do you

657
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: mind just staying in there? And like so the guys

658
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: on a cigarette break, he doesn't want to come back,

659
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, total him, like I planned him just sitting

660
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: in that box. I'd love a photo. I'd love a

661
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: photo of that of me of on the Warner Brothers lot,

662
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: of that plexiglass box in the middle of the night.

663
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: It's like that, you know, that's sad looking man sitting

664
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: hovering above the glamour. Show. Business must go on. It's

665
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: mostly that and then once a year they, if you're lucky,

666
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: they send a limo to take you somewhere. Um uh So,

667
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: here's here's a question. What do you remember because mine

668
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: was a very distinctive memory, But what do you remember

669
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: about your first day on set? Oh gosh, um, my

670
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: first day on set. Wow, I don't remember a whole

671
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: lot from that because I thought I was in and out.

672
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was like, you know, I'm just like

673
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: coming in, I'm gonna do my thing, I'm gonna leave.

674
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: I'll never see any of these people ever again, you know.

675
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Um and uh and so I remember I I was.

676
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: I was not nervous because I was getting a little

677
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: bit nervous if I if I'm not a percent on

678
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: the lines. But um, but I worked the audition so

679
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: many times that like I already knew the lines backwards

680
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: and forwards, and so like I remember, Um, I remember

681
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: like wanting to do it fast and like go home.

682
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't. It's like it's that's the least sexy story

683
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: you can possibly imagine. But like the thing that the

684
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: thing that's sticks out for my first day is like,

685
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this fast. Everybody's gonna be super impressed

686
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: by the awesome job that I do, and I'm gonna

687
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: go home and I'm never going to see these people again.

688
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: And you did. That was in l A. That wasn't

689
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: in Toronto, was it? Yeah? I know that was in

690
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: l A. So it was. I was on the first

691
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: episode after the pilot. So you guys shot the pilot

692
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: and uh, and then they and then I was on

693
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: the and I was on the first episode. In a

694
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: funny story, my agent at the time UM wanted me

695
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to pass on the because because it was a co star,

696
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: not a guest star, and I had just done a

697
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: couple of guest stars. So like I was there, like

698
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: we're really trying to establish you as a guy. And

699
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: and you know, for the audience, if you don't know

700
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: the difference, it's like a co star, you know, is

701
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe is gonna be one day, maybe has a lot

702
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: line or two, you know, whereas a guest star is

703
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: more like an actual supporting guest star for the for

704
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: the for the episode. You know, big difference, money, difference

705
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: in day, number of days and all that kind of stuff.

706
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: And I just come off doing like a couple of

707
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: guest stars on sitcoms. And so when the audition came in,

708
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: my agent was like, we recommend that you pass on

709
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: this because we want to establish you as a as

710
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: a guest star caliber guy and that you're not going

711
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: lower than that. You know, they're doing their job. It

712
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: makes sense. But my my manager at the time, many

713
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: years ago, Gordon was had been friends with Mark Casey

714
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: in Chicago and said, and Mars the cast that was

715
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: one of the cast directors of the show, and said,

716
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: mar is an old friend, and um, I you know

717
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: your agents don't want you to do it, but I

718
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: think it would be cool to like introduce your solved

719
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: all these people and the like get it done. And

720
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I did. Fortunately, I did the thing that any actor

721
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I would recommend now should do, which is I said,

722
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: send me the scene and let me read it, and

723
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: if I want to do it, then i'll If I don't,

724
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: if it looks like something that would be cool, fun

725
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: And I read the scene, I'm like, this seems funny.

726
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's good, you know, like so like of

727
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: course I'll go in on the audition. Isn't that weird?

728
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: It's weird how that stuff works out, like how you

729
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: go back and like how does because we because I

730
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: was a guest star on the pilot, I wasn't a

731
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: series regular, and that was that was a quick, easy audition,

732
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: and I was like the second of the day. I

733
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: had a third one. I was I was running late,

734
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, let's get through it. And got

735
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: the job. Shot at we kind of figured it was

736
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: just really a heat check with Lauren, you know, because

737
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: the pilots opens in the diner, it ends in the diner,

738
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: and so we figured, okay, so this is kind of

739
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: a thing of the show and they're looking to the

740
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: right guy. So they offered two episodes and we said no,

741
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: which caused me great stress. And then they came back

742
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: with four and you know, my manager recommended no. I said,

743
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: come on, it's four guests, our episodes, and she was

744
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: She goes, I'm gonna call again balogn and get you

745
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: a contract, and I said, okay, and she did it.

746
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: She did it well. She she she got me a

747
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: six year deal. Wow. Yeah. And then which which which

748
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: shows you, first of all, it's smart, you know that,

749
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes your rest No, they understand what's

750
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: going on, and they knew that. They like like they

751
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: knew this is this is the guy we want to

752
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: do this. But it's a money But it's like, do

753
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: they have the money? So let's let's keep them coming

754
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: back on the cheap because that's all we really have

755
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: in the kiddie. And at that point, correct me if

756
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm run. So that point in your career, you're like

757
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: you you did it like a famous episode of Seinfeldt

758
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: right with the sponge, and like, what's going on for

759
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: you in your career at that point? Yeah, I mean

760
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: just no, just auditioning really well, like like killing it

761
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: and everything and always being always being the bridesmaid and

762
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: like and he killed it. We're just gonna go another way,

763
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like he's he's our choice, but

764
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: the director is going to go with the friend of

765
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: a friend and you know it's always that Um yeah, no, No,

766
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I had nothing nothing really, I mean I did. I

767
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: did a Will and Grace, I did a Seinfeld I

768
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like that kind of go to guy.

769
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: I did. I did a Fired Up with Sharon Lawrence.

770
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I had a recurring on that, which was great. Um,

771
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: so I was developing a little bit of a reputation

772
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: in the business. Is like a reliable sort of guy

773
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: to come on and you know, um do my thing.

774
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: And but no, no, not no series stuff, no deals,

775
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: no studio deals, no network deals. You know, it wasn't

776
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: It was just like that was back in the day

777
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: when there would be like like you meet people was

778
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: like who are like, oh I have it? You know,

779
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had you have friends who

780
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: like like I had friends who didn't work, but we're

781
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: like under yeah, I had they had holding deals deals,

782
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: and they used to give them. They used to give

783
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: them out, and then when the writers went on strike,

784
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: they wiped all those deals out and they stopped giving them.

785
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Those were those And we got a holding deal after

786
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: year seven, negotiating in year six to go into year seven,

787
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: and we had a holding deal in case the series

788
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: got canceled. And thank god we did that. I had

789
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: a eight manager, I really did. Um. So we got it.

790
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: We we we got a holding deal, which got me

791
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: on Aliens in America because they had to either pay

792
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: me or put me on a series, and they didn't

793
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: want to pay me to do nothing. Right did they

794
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: pay you to cittain weight? So I was on this

795
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: this this wonderful, wonderfully written series. UM comedy series. Um um.

796
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, so here's here's a question. Who from the cast? Okay,

797
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: have you remained closest too? Okay? Yeah, like like uh

798
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: oh okay, well, um, that's not counting John Cabrera who

799
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: played Brian on the show, who was in one of

800
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the members of the band. Um. But Cabrera was my

801
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: friend before he did the show. Um didn't get the

802
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: job through me, by the way, it was coincidental, but

803
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: he ended up. But like we were. We were roommates

804
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: in college, so he's one of my He's like he

805
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: was a year behind me in college. We're close friends.

806
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: We've been like, you know, the best of friends for

807
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: for oh my god, how old am I almost thirty years? UM,

808
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: so that he doesn't count because we were already friends. Uh.

809
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: But but Kikos the one I see the most. I

810
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I just saw her doing. Um she was she came

811
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: to my wedding and um and uh and I just

812
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: saw her doing We were doing a reading for this

813
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: cool thing that she's working on. I won't say anymore

814
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: about that, but like, um, and we're talking, I see her.

815
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: I I see her when I can you know, um,

816
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: And honestly, she's like the only like I see you.

817
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: You know, like we see that we've seen each other.

818
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Ericann mentions in you and I'll texts from time to

819
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: time about about various things and like whatever I saw

820
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: you years ago. The coolest thing to me has been that,

821
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: like I became friends with Amy and Dan after the show,

822
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Like when we were on it, I was, I was,

823
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I was scared of I was. I was afraid of Amy,

824
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: you know. Um, and you know, and she was my boss,

825
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: and uh, like I all I wanted I wanted to

826
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: please her, like I wanted her. I think that I

827
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: was doing a good job and continue to employ me

828
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: and like and like I thought she was great and everything. Um,

829
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: and I liked her, I would, you know. But but

830
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't until after the show was over really that

831
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: we became friends as like actual human beings, I think. Um.

832
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: And so now when I, um, I'll you know, anytime

833
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: I go to New York, I'll I will try, you

834
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: know to have dinner with a mean dan, you know,

835
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: every time, and we you know, we'll email from time

836
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: to time. And I also, like look back now as

837
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: a as a forty seven year old man, what I

838
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: didn't understands it as in my twenties, um, just knowing

839
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: that like man, she was like she was like a

840
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: thirty our role like in her mid thirties, a female

841
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: dealing with all these dudes you think that they're the

842
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: smartest people in the room and trying to like like

843
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: get trying to sway her off of what her vision

844
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: is and she was like, no, I know better than

845
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: you do how this stuff works. And she like imposed

846
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: her will on the show. That's the reason that it's good,

847
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: and that's the reason that people talk about it now

848
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: is because because you had a creator at the top

849
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: who knew exactly, uh what the f she was doing.

850
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can curse on this show,

851
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: but I won't. Um, you knew exactly what she was

852
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: doing and uh and and looking back now, I have,

853
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: like I have just unlimited respect for what she accomplished

854
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: in making the show work. Um. Yeah, she stood her

855
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: ground right away. She heels in it. But to go

856
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: back to the question you asked about about people on

857
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the show, like, I don't really see anybody you know,

858
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: Like that's one of the cool things about doing a

859
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: year in the Life was like seeing Lauren and Alexis

860
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: again who I love and will love forever, or like,

861
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, seeing Mike Winners again, who like I always like,

862
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: like anytime I ever do an interview about going girls

863
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: and people ask me who I like working with the

864
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: best or whatever, I just feel obligated to bring up

865
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Mike Winners because of how hard his job was and

866
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: how like that dude would just have pages and pages

867
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: and pages of exposition and played anlike relatively unlikable character

868
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: that people that's sort of like, oh this guy again,

869
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: you know. And man, you want to talk about being

870
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: a pro and being an old school like knowing how

871
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: show business works and coming in and knowing your stuff

872
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: and like hitting your mark and and like knocking the

873
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: ball out of the park every like you know, every

874
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: or or or not even you know, as a baseball guy,

875
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: like just hitting clean doubles every time, you know, Like like,

876
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: I just I love it. I miss I miss all

877
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: of the I miss everybody really, um, but I don't

878
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: see anybody. I know. Me and uh Melissa were in

879
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: Sydney at the same time. Oh you know, I just

880
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: we just spoke to Yunique and he's over there with

881
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: her doing God's Favorite Idiot. It's a new yea, I

882
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: guess an HBO thing or something. Yeah, but I haven't

883
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: awesome awesome, I uh, but I haven't seen her and forever.

884
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: I'd love to ask her if she's been able to

885
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: get work since skillmore girls send it eye. It's a

886
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: shame what's happened here? Yeah, such a talented girl being

887
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: overlooked and it's just someone she'll find a job. Someone

888
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: she will, she will we we wait a minute, were

889
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: you with us that night? We went to Groundlings to

890
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: see her and they're like, season one did you go?

891
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: Because we went as a cast. I went on my own.

892
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I went and saw her Groundlings, um like by myself

893
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: one night and she's like, hey, I'm doing the show.

894
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and like I and I went and

895
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: saw her performing Groundlings Founding. Yeah. I mean, I mean

896
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: it was a stag. It's not a surprise, like you

897
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: know now like oh yeah, of course she was amazing. No,

898
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: but I mean I knew she was good because she

899
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: was in the Groundles and you know, they don't mess

900
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: around over there, and they don't bring you in unless

901
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: they think you have tremendous upside uh and tremen into skills.

902
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: But I wasn't prepared for that. I mean that was

903
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: like after that show a my stomach herd and then

904
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to call Lauren Michaels and say, why isn't

905
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: this girl on SNL. You know, this is like somebody

906
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: who can create the content and then acted beautifully. I mean,

907
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: these characters are gloriously funny. My god. Anyway, Yeah, I

908
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: was not surprised at all when her star started rising.

909
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't surprised. Okay, I got him stare here.

910
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised, but I was a little surprised. I

911
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: was a surprised, like only only because of culture, only

912
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: because of like the world that we lived in, right, Like,

913
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: like I wasn't surprised that she had a fantastic career

914
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: because she's genius, but like her becoming a movie star

915
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: is freaking awesome, like like it's such a great thing that,

916
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: like we didn't have movie stars like Melissa McCarthy when

917
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: I was growing up, and the world was worse for it,

918
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, And I really mean that.

919
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: And so like it's like if you had said to me,

920
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: if you would ask me, um, you know when whatever

921
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: in the middle of Gilmer Girls, if you would ask

922
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: me and season five like like which one of your

923
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: castmates is going to be a massive movie star? Um,

924
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: I would not have called it correctly, And I'm very

925
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: glad that I would have been wrong. I called I

926
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: called unique. Truesdale has been a huge disappointment to me.

927
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: No kidding. I thought that Unique was most likely to

928
00:56:48,360 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: be found dead mcgutter somewhere. No, No, he's still on

929
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: top of stuff. Man, that guy's like on top of things. No,

930
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: he's losing it. He's first of all, he's looking older.

931
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: He's looking he looks a full ten years older than

932
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: he is. He's gotta like to dish it out. He's

933
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: gotta tell you back. He'll be fine. Oh my god,

934
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: but I would have. Actually, I actually did call Melissa,

935
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, I did call from everyone in the cast.

936
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I said that girl is going to break out because

937
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: of her skill set, because of her comedic skill set,

938
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: and on top of the fact that she is just

939
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: naturally funny, like in an interview. Oh, I mean, I

940
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: mean I did interviews with her. I mean I did.

941
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: I did an interview for early On with a ESPN

942
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: and we're talking about boxing, and she was hysterical, and

943
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: she she thought I was laughing at her. She got

944
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: offended him, like, what are you talking about? Every every

945
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: everything out of your mouth is like hysterically funny. Oh yeah,

946
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: she's a killer. I mean you know, yeah, she's a killer.

947
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: She's she's undernovel. Yeah, she's like she's like Sally Struthers level,

948
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: like funny, just like just talking to her. You know,

949
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: those are my man, some of some of my favorite nights,

950
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: Like my favorite memories I think from the entire run

951
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: of the show would be we'd be doing those um

952
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: those scenes in the town hall, you know, and it

953
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: would be hot, and you gotta do everybody's coverage and

954
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: they're like fourteen people on the scene, you know, And

955
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: it would be on a Friday, so they knew they

956
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: could go as late as they want and we'd up.

957
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: It would be like okay, when the sun like hopefully

958
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: when the sun comes up, will wrap you know. And

959
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: at some point Liz Torres and Sally Struthers would get

960
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: punch drunk and start singing old show tunes and just

961
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, Sally would back in a you know, an

962
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: extra would be sitting on her lap like randomly or

963
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: like they just would start holding court. And and I

964
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: wish I had a video of of one or two

965
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: of those moments, because man, I missed that. They saved

966
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: us so many times they saved you know. That was

967
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: the thing about working uh In in Burbank in August

968
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: in a hundred and ten hundred and fifteen degrees doing

969
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: those town hall meetings. Man, those were hot days. And

970
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: every time I was in one of those scenes, and

971
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: you're in there all day because you know, you gotta

972
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: get covered all those people, like you said, but oh

973
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: my god, it was so hot in those tents and

974
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: they would tent it off right to create nighttime, so

975
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: at six am it was tinted off to look like nighttime,

976
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: and it just it was just like being inside of

977
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: it was like a sauna. It was a steam room,

978
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: or not a sauna, but it was a steam room,

979
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: a big steam room, and you could just couldn't escape.

980
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: They pumped in all kinds of a c with these

981
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: giant tubes, but they would break down the generators breakdown

982
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: from you know, working all day, and then they'd have

983
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: to replace it. But oh my god, it was hot

984
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: and every time I was in there, so we were

985
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: all sweating because we're in winter closed to most of

986
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: the time, we're in winter close it's Connecticut. It's you know,

987
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: it's usually winter or fall, and that's when we did

988
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the town meetings. Um. I just kept

989
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: thinking of all the people that have to work in

990
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: the hot sun for scut wages, and here I am,

991
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, pissing and moaning about being sweaty and hot

992
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: and winter closed, but I'm gonna hit TV show again.

993
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: It was that, it was that sense of community that

994
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: we all had because everybody was sweating their brains out

995
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: and all you know, you know, I felt sorry for

996
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: the most are they are the hair and makeup department,

997
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: because they would have to come in there all the

998
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: time and wipe us down and dab us down. They

999
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: couldn't wipe you know, they'd have to dab us because

1000
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: the makeup. They screw up the makeup if they wiped right.

1001
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: So they have to come in there and they'd have

1002
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: their little you know, those little fans, those tiny little fans.

1003
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: They look like little propellers and they just hold them

1004
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: up to your face and you're like, oh, thank you,

1005
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I love you, thank you, what you marry me? Thank you?

1006
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: Don't stop? You know what I mean? I mean. It

1007
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: was just it was it was hot. Have I have

1008
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: I said it was hot in there? Yeah, it was.

1009
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: It was extraordinarily hot. Um anyway, it's a it's a

1010
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: heck of a place to be wearing flannel and spitting

1011
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: out dialogue while the sweat is flying off you had, Ben,

1012
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we we We definitely earned our

1013
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: money on those days, that's for sure. Maybe not so

1014
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: much on other days, but on those days, we earned

1015
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: our money. I was working on Think Raise something. It

1016
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: was like it was like, oh man, this show is

1017
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: such a beast, like like we're trying to do five

1018
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: pages a day for whatever weeks or months or whatever.

1019
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I did a show where we

1020
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: averaged over ten pages a day every single day for

1021
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: seven years, and those pages really constituted twenty pages on

1022
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: a normal script because there was twice as much black ink.

1023
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: People didn't Yeah, like people, people, anybody works who works

1024
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: in show business. You tell them you did over ten

1025
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: pages a day every day, It's like wait, what that

1026
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: doesn't that impossible? Yeah. I went on Aliens in American

1027
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: and then the event set and I was like, you know,

1028
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: people are like, gosh, we have a two page or today,

1029
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: what are we going to get through it? And said,

1030
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I do big movies now, And

1031
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we got a two and a

1032
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 1: half page scene, so luckily we have two full days

1033
01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: to shoot it. It's like, okay, Jesus Oh my goodness,

1034
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: h are you ready for rapid fire? You want to

1035
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: do some rapid fire? Yeah, give me some rapid fire,

1036
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: Come on, strapping man ready? All right? How do you

1037
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: take your coffee? But quick coffee? Yeah? Coffee? How do

1038
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: you take it? Lots of cold milk? No sugar? Can

1039
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: you smell snow? No? Are you team Logan Jess or

1040
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: team Dean Logan? Wow? That's shocking. Really, I thought that

1041
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: might stop you in your tracks. Stopped in my trash

1042
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I think that I think that I

1043
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: think that Logan okay, I think that I think that

1044
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: Dean like fetishized Rory a little bit, like treated her

1045
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: like an object. I think that Jess belittled her a

1046
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: little bit, like would be like a little bit condescending

1047
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: at times. And I think that Logan, for Hall, is

1048
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: false as a human being, treated her as an equal,

1049
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: um as better than the other two did? Okay? Best

1050
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: memory of Gilmore girl the one I just said, late

1051
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: late nights, getting punched wrong, wanting to go home. Everybody's there,

1052
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: We're all like dicking around, looping, getting uh favorite Friday

1053
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: night dinner meal in real life? Now and well, let's

1054
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: both let's do Emily's house because you were invited to

1055
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: a couple of dinners. Weren't sure it was it just

1056
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Speaker 1: the one I went to one in the in the reboot,

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Speaker 1: what was the what was the meal I the most discussing.

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Speaker 1: I ain't the most disgusting thing they do that that

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 1: they ever had on the show, and in I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't know that A boy I do too. Actually, UM,

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Speaker 1: show your binge watching right now, hymn still okay. Cast

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Speaker 1: membery texted most recently, I think we know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that. Well, if that's you. But before that, before that,

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Speaker 1: it's kicko okay, okay, UM tell us about dealing with

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Speaker 1: the Swans. Here's what I remember about that episode is

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: is that I didn't know if I was the same

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01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: character that I was that I was playing in the

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Speaker 1: first episode that I did, and trying to just fake

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Speaker 1: my way through it, never asking am I the same character,

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: just like trying to like like maybe if I keep

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Speaker 1: my mouth shut, I'll figure it out, you know, and uh,

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: and doing it and sort of playing it like I

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01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: think I ultimately did play it as though he was

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Speaker 1: sort of the same character. And then I did another

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Speaker 1: episode where I'm like, oh, no, I think I have

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: to change this up a little bit. I have a

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Speaker 1: question about the film by Kirk. Did you ever get

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Speaker 1: offered to do a film based on those films by

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Speaker 1: Kirks or write and direct or produce a film any

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Speaker 1: on any level because of a film by Kirk? And

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01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: that whole uh series of so it's where you were

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: making these No, And when you phrased the question like that,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed now that I haven't you got

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: no offers? No offers? What am I? What do I

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: look like? You know? But I do so I uh

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Speaker 1: that that one comes up a lot, and I should

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Speaker 1: like those films, like doing the like gosh, that was

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Speaker 1: so much fun, Oh my god, absolutely most pleasurable Kirk

1089
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Speaker 1: stuff was was was those films? Those films were hey,

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Speaker 1: And you didn't ask this question, but my favorite scene

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: that you and I did together was in was was Oh, man,

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01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: there's a couple. There's a couple that really there's two

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01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: that's that stick out a lot. But one is the

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: date is Kirk's first date with Lulu, and he's like

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 1: all nervous about it, and we have this scene where

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Speaker 1: where he goes aside to Luke and it's like when

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01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: we talk about Duck from from Pretty and Pink and uh,

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: and like I love doing that scene. And I also

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Speaker 1: love doing the scene on the episode that ends with

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Speaker 1: me running naked where I'm talking the night terror scene

1101
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: where I'm like, can you please help me with these

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: with these night terrorists? Like those are both really some

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01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: of my some of the best scenes, some of my

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: most fun scenes. I don't recall they were very tender

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Speaker 1: that they were tender scenes, weren't they between kind of

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: thing they were kind of was like, Okay, I'm gonna

1107
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: throw this guy a bone, and like he wasn't, so

1108
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, he see Luke had a little bit of

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: a soft spot. Oh god, this guy's lost. Oh man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow yeah, great stuff, great stuff. Um, a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the time. Anytime, my friend. We will yeah,

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Speaker 1: we will be rad in your cage again. Uh. And

1113
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Speaker 1: and again, I'm really sorry about what happened with Una.

1114
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: I love you. I really did. Everybody. I'm not gonna

1115
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Speaker 1: he's like my favorite person to give a hard time

1116
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: because he gives it back double yeah. Uh alright, anyway,

1117
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: but enjoy your Sunday. Yeah, you do. All the best

1118
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: to you. Guys and your wife and all the best

1119
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: and good luck on the rest of the shoot and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Pal. Okay, alright, alright you too. Bye? Okay? So, wow,

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Speaker 1: uh is he not great? Is this guy not just

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: filled with smarts and and perspective? And what a great guy? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I love talking to him. Guess what, guys, we talked

1124
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Speaker 1: for so long because we just lost track of the time.

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Speaker 1: When Sean Gunn enters a room, something happens. There's a vortex,

1126
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: there's us, there's a vacuum, something something good, and you

1127
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: lose a sense of time. Um, and we ran really

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Speaker 1: really long. So we're gonna make second episode out of it.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think of that? I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good yeah, because we still we haven't even started

1131
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: talking about kill Me Now. So okay, how should we

1132
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Speaker 1: do this? All Right, So we're gonna end this episode

1133
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Speaker 1: and then in like a day or two days maybe

1134
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Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, it will be there. Now

1135
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: we'll have another episode recapping kill Me Now. So, so

1136
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: we went so long, we're gonna drop. We're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna drop another episode a couple of days after this one,

1138
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Speaker 1: recapping kill me now, okay, because we just went so

1139
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Speaker 1: long with Sean. You can talk. I could talk to

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Speaker 1: that guy and I have. I've been at the hotel

1141
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: bar and talking to him for hours. So fascinating guy. Um,

1142
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Speaker 1: and just look out for that second episode. And if

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Speaker 1: you guys subscribe now okay, you'll get an alert when

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Speaker 1: that second episode is going to drop. Okay, So get on,

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