Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to Wes hod Koits,
Speaker 1: and we're coming to you here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West as you and I get ready
Speaker 1: to head off to Indianapolis for the Combine, which is
Speaker 1: where we're going to be shooting a handful of shows
Speaker 1: from there. So this is our our last show here
Speaker 1: in the studio for a while. We'll be doing a
Speaker 1: little on location work coming up from the Scouting Combine.
Speaker 1: But in preparation for that, you had a couple of
Speaker 1: stories on packers dot com over the last week just
Speaker 1: looking at the Packers roster and where it sits on
Speaker 1: offense and defense heading into the scouting Combine, in terms
Speaker 1: of who's under contract, who's not under contract, and just
Speaker 1: where things stand. Starting on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: Um Jarry Evans, Jeff Janis, Richard Rogers, and if you
Speaker 1: count long snapper Brett Good on the offensive side, we'll
Speaker 1: do that just for the time being. Those are the
Speaker 1: four unrestricted free agents pending unrestricted free agents. I should
Speaker 1: say that they will be free agents on March four.
Speaker 1: If the Packers do not resign them. It's not actually
Speaker 1: a whole lot to deal with because, as we talked about,
Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley and Davante Adams were already taking care of
Speaker 1: at the end of December. So with regards to where
Speaker 1: the Packers sit on offense right now, what are your thoughts? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're sitting pretty honestly. They with getting Davante Adams done.
Speaker 1: And you saw this past week, Mike, we talked about it.
Speaker 1: You know, Jarvis Landry getting an extent or getting his
Speaker 1: franchise tag on the first day that the Dolphins could
Speaker 1: take him. Shows you the predicament that teams are in
Speaker 1: and trying to lack, you know, kind of lock up
Speaker 1: there really talented young receivers. Davante Adams turned twenty five
Speaker 1: years old on Christmas Eve. This is a guy heading
Speaker 1: into his peak years and I think has shown a
Speaker 1: continual maturation improvement throughout his time in Green Bay. This
Speaker 1: was a must for the Packers personnel department, and as
Speaker 1: it turned out, within days forty eight hours of that
Speaker 1: regular season finale against the Detroit Lions, Ted Thompson and
Speaker 1: what ended up being, you know, his final moves really
Speaker 1: as Packers general manager, getting Corey Linsley taking care of
Speaker 1: the Packers center, the first time a Packers center has
Speaker 1: received a second contract since two thousand and six, and
Speaker 1: Mike Wells, and then also yeah, Scott Wells. Mike Wells,
Speaker 1: that's you gotta love it all right, but no, but
Speaker 1: you had Scott Wells get that extension. And Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has talked for so long how important it is for
Speaker 1: him to get on a run with the center. Lindsley
Speaker 1: was able to stay healthy, played every offensive snap this year.
Speaker 1: And then now you also have probably one of the
Speaker 1: most talented perimeter weapons in the NFL now with Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: Those two extensions, getting those done in addition to the
Speaker 1: benefit of being able to pro rate some of that
Speaker 1: signing bonus into the two thousand seventeen seasons so isn't
Speaker 1: as big of a cap hit going forward, is important,
Speaker 1: but it also sets the table now for what the
Speaker 1: Packers want to do with their draft picks, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about on yesterday's show, also with the upcoming free
Speaker 1: agents that they have in other positions they have that
Speaker 1: take care of now with Adams and Lindsley, and I
Speaker 1: think that's going to really be a big benefit to
Speaker 1: them as they start to get into the heat of
Speaker 1: the off season. Yeah, and hard to know exactly how
Speaker 1: this is going to shake out with these pending unrestricted
Speaker 1: free agents on the offensive side. Jarry Evans obviously, UM
Speaker 1: a long time a guy. I think he's gonna end
Speaker 1: up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. UM veteran
Speaker 1: guy suggested that maybe he's not quite done playing yet. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, the Packers are going to look at where
Speaker 1: they are on the offensive line with with some of
Speaker 1: their young players. Do they feel like they have somebody
Speaker 1: to fill in there or do they want to bring
Speaker 1: Evans back. I think a really interesting case here is
Speaker 1: is with Jeff Janis, because he's a backup receiver who
Speaker 1: knows the offense. Hasn't played a ton of snaps on
Speaker 1: offense over the last couple of years, but it's invaluable
Speaker 1: on special teams. It's not an accident that the Packers
Speaker 1: have set franchise net punting records over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years with different punters. It's because a lot of
Speaker 1: it is because of Jeff Janis as a gunner, forcing
Speaker 1: fair catches, tackling punt returners who are who declined the
Speaker 1: fair catch, and then Janis is right there to bring
Speaker 1: him down possibly for a loss on a punt return.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of value there. But but then
Speaker 1: you know, you wonder will somebody else place more value
Speaker 1: on that, potentially offer more money. Do the Packers want
Speaker 1: to bring him back as as a potential backup receiver
Speaker 1: if something goes down with the other front line guys.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things to consider what a player
Speaker 1: like that Jeff Janis's situation. I'm sure you remember this
Speaker 1: as well. Mike reminds me a lot of when Jared
Speaker 1: Bush was heading into unrestricted free agency. I think that
Speaker 1: was going into the two thousand twelve season, where he
Speaker 1: had proven himself on special teams. It was a very valuable,
Speaker 1: versatile player in that third phase, but always what kind
Speaker 1: of was on the cusp of being a difference maker
Speaker 1: on defense, being a contributor on defense. They ultimately ended
Speaker 1: up reaching an extension with him and he had three
Speaker 1: more seasons with the Packers. Janice, I think is a
Speaker 1: very similar situation because this is a guy that is
Speaker 1: a top level, elite gunner. When you're thinking about it,
Speaker 1: Mike six ft three hundred and twenty seven pounds and
Speaker 1: runs in the four fours that is difficult for for
Speaker 1: jammers to stop. And also being able to get down
Speaker 1: that quickly allows him that other option if he does
Speaker 1: get jammed, it allows him to have that makeup speed
Speaker 1: to potentially get down there and put pressure on the
Speaker 1: punt returner. The other thing to keep in mind too,
Speaker 1: the Packers have had a carousel of different players at
Speaker 1: that other at that other position. You've had Dmitri Goodson,
Speaker 1: You've had Quentin Rollins, you've had Josh Jones. Injuries really
Speaker 1: made ron Zook alter who that other gunner was for them,
Speaker 1: But they still had Jeff Janice to turn back to.
Speaker 1: Very valuable there. In one other note to just to
Speaker 1: mention with Jarry Evans hundred nine hundred and twelve snaps
Speaker 1: he played for the Packers this year, more than I
Speaker 1: think anyone really expected out of a thirty four going
Speaker 1: into thirty five year old offensive lineman. The big thing
Speaker 1: I think for him is going to be determining whether
Speaker 1: or not he wants to play next season. When you've
Speaker 1: played for that long, termining you know if it when
Speaker 1: the right time is to ride into the sunset. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk to any of those offensive line
Speaker 1: in the room and they will tell you how important
Speaker 1: he was, especially bridging that gap from teaching laying at
Speaker 1: the right guard position. Yeah, and just to touch on
Speaker 1: Richard Rogers quickly, you're talking about a reliable, still young
Speaker 1: player tight end. He's done everything the Packers have asked
Speaker 1: him to do. He's not a dynamic field stretcher. He's
Speaker 1: not a Jermichael Finley by any means. But also, the
Speaker 1: Packers are in a situation where if you don't bring
Speaker 1: Richard Rogers back, the cupboard is getting a little bit
Speaker 1: bear at tight end. And you know, I know the
Speaker 1: Packers want to do some things at the tight end position,
Speaker 1: but then you end up having to potentially do even
Speaker 1: more if you can't reach an agreement with Rogers to
Speaker 1: bring him back. Yeah, And in my mind I wrote
Speaker 1: this an insider in box. I think there're two options
Speaker 1: for the Packers. I think you probably need a draft
Speaker 1: a tight end this year. But regardless and independent of that,
Speaker 1: I think either need to resign Richard Rogers or you
Speaker 1: need to find another veteran to help out along with
Speaker 1: with with Lance Kendricks. Yeah, alright, with that, we'll toss
Speaker 1: to a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford. Right here, West, Hodko,
Speaker 1: It's all the way over there, West. Okay. Let's take
Speaker 1: a look at the defensive side of the ball now,
Speaker 1: in terms of the players under contract and those not
Speaker 1: under contract, you're pending free agents on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, safety Morgan Burnett, outside linebacker a mod Brooks,
Speaker 1: cornerbacks Dmitri Goodson and Devon House, and also defensive lineman
Speaker 1: Quentin dial Um. Interesting thing with House, obviously he was
Speaker 1: a free agent last year, just signed a one year
Speaker 1: deal similar to the jar R Evans situation. I guess there,
Speaker 1: so he's he's immediately appending free agent again. Dmitri Goodson
Speaker 1: an interesting case, a guy who you know has been
Speaker 1: working his way back from that that horrible knee injury
Speaker 1: from and then the one who's you know, on the
Speaker 1: tip of everyone's tongue in terms of certainly the fans
Speaker 1: we hear from an insider in box, everybody wondering what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with Morgan Burnett, A guy who's been
Speaker 1: here since being drafted in the third round in two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten and now looking at getting a third contract.
Speaker 1: I don't know how this one's gonna work out, West,
Speaker 1: but but Morgan Burnett has certainly proven his value and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Yeah, and equivocally the Packer's biggest
Speaker 1: pending free agent that they're gonna have to make a
Speaker 1: decision on. And and certainly when you look at the
Speaker 1: value that the NFL has continued to put on the
Speaker 1: safety position. Uh, to use an old phrase, the price
Speaker 1: of pokers going up. I mean, it's just it's the
Speaker 1: way things are now because you can use safeties, as
Speaker 1: Morgan Burnett has proven the last two seasons, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure as his agent will be selling when they head
Speaker 1: into free agency. He can play anywhere. He played boundary cornerback,
Speaker 1: he actually played slot star quarterback for pretty much the
Speaker 1: last month and a half of the two thousand seventeen season.
Speaker 1: His strong suit at strong safety and then also that
Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker role. The Packers gave themselves some options a
Speaker 1: year ago when they did draft Josh Jones in the
Speaker 1: second round. But you have I both know so much
Speaker 1: of what it takes to be efficient and accountable and
Speaker 1: effective on defense is knowledge of the scheme, in knowledge
Speaker 1: of you know what you're being asked to do. Morgan
Speaker 1: Burnett was the epitome of that at two time playoff
Speaker 1: captain during this time and Don Caper's defense. Now that
Speaker 1: Mike Petton comes in, the question and everybody wants to know,
Speaker 1: is whether or not he would have a place in
Speaker 1: this defense. I think the hybrid linebacker role is there
Speaker 1: to stay. It's just a question of whether or not
Speaker 1: that it's still gonna be Morgan Burnett feeling it going
Speaker 1: into two thousand eighteen. Yeah, I really think this depends
Speaker 1: on how Mike Petton feels he would potentially be able
Speaker 1: to use Morgan Burnett, how he feels about his his
Speaker 1: skill set and where he where he's at in his
Speaker 1: career and and uh and what he can do with
Speaker 1: him scheme wise, And we just don't know the answer
Speaker 1: to that question. I think as we head to the
Speaker 1: combine Indianapolis, we're going to hear from general manager Brian
Speaker 1: Goodkunstan head coach Mike McCarthy. They'll both speak to the media.
Speaker 1: I think this is a question both of them are
Speaker 1: going to get. What's going on with Morgan Burnett. What
Speaker 1: are the thoughts there, You're gonna try to bring him back?
Speaker 1: Is he going to test the waters in free agency
Speaker 1: and see what else is out there? We've seen some
Speaker 1: media reports that you know, Burnett has kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: seems to have come to peace with a little bit
Speaker 1: in terms of, hey, you know, whatever's gonna happen, is
Speaker 1: is going to happen. He'll he'll let it play out.
Speaker 1: And I think he's just gonna let his agent do
Speaker 1: the work for him and do what's best for him
Speaker 1: and his family. Yeah. I had a chance to talk
Speaker 1: with Morgan at the end of the season during the
Speaker 1: final locker room, and I remember asking him about just
Speaker 1: what this process has been like, because you have to recall,
Speaker 1: this is the first time he's hinting entering into free agency.
Speaker 1: The last time the Packer signed an extension with him
Speaker 1: in July of thirteen, going into his final season, so
Speaker 1: they were able to lock him up, and you know,
Speaker 1: he never really even got close to testing the waters. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the first time he's going to do that.
Speaker 1: The Packers. You go back and look at it. The
Speaker 1: third contracts, depending on you know, the player, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's probably about fifty fifty whether or not a guy
Speaker 1: you know is here or not. So, um, it is
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting, interesting to find because I'm
Speaker 1: sure the Packers would love I'm sure Joe widd I'm
Speaker 1: sure that defense would love to have Morgan Burnett back.
Speaker 1: It just becomes a question of what the cap number
Speaker 1: is going to be, what the contract is going to
Speaker 1: be in whether or not it's palatable to to keep
Speaker 1: him under there. To me, I think probably the biggest
Speaker 1: no brainer I don't even know if that's the right word,
Speaker 1: but the one that seems academic to me is potentially
Speaker 1: being able to bring back Quentin Dial because of those reasons.
Speaker 1: He was effective, He did what he was asked to
Speaker 1: do as a run defender, and the price isn't extravagant.
Speaker 1: So but whether or not who's going to be back,
Speaker 1: who won't be those are all decisions way above my
Speaker 1: pay grade, and that would be what Brian Goodkins will
Speaker 1: have to figure out in his first off season as GM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and one other guy on defense worth mentioning as well,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker Joe Thomas, is a restricted free agent, so
Speaker 1: the Packers have to decide here coming up on the
Speaker 1: start of free agency, whether or not to tender him
Speaker 1: a certain contract offer. You can explain this better than
Speaker 1: I can. As far as the decision that needs to
Speaker 1: be made. It's actually a tough decision. Uh. And it's
Speaker 1: been tough because the way that these contracts are work
Speaker 1: now in the post CBA environment is basically the only
Speaker 1: players that reached restricted free agency now are undrafted free agents,
Speaker 1: guys that had three year contracts, because every other contract
Speaker 1: now is four years for players that were drafted if
Speaker 1: they're on their original contracts. So Joe Thomas, a former
Speaker 1: UFA in two thousand fourteen, UM, I don't know the
Speaker 1: exact number on the first right of refusal tender. You
Speaker 1: have three tenders. You can use a first round tender
Speaker 1: so that if it signs elsewhere, you get a first
Speaker 1: round pick. A second round tender signed somewhere else you
Speaker 1: get a second round pick, or the original round which
Speaker 1: is now turned into the first right of refusal. Because
Speaker 1: these guys weren't drafted, you don't get anything. I remember
Speaker 1: my favorite story, this is Jamari Lattimore. UM, and this
Speaker 1: is a two thousand fourteen I believe I was talking
Speaker 1: to his agent leading up to this. They were fully
Speaker 1: convinced he wasn't gonna get tag. They're getting ready for
Speaker 1: him to go into free agency, and then lo and behold,
Speaker 1: he did get tag. He ended up getting the tender. So, um,
Speaker 1: this is sometimes a decision that goes right up to
Speaker 1: the wire. But the way that works then is if
Speaker 1: you give them the restricted under, you basically pay them
Speaker 1: whatever that ends up being two million. However that works
Speaker 1: out this year, and then that's the contract they play
Speaker 1: on for one more season before it becoming an unrestricted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then they become an unrestricted free agent after playing after
Speaker 1: playing that one more year. So with that, we're going
Speaker 1: to toss it to a break back with more on
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes Hodko wits in that
Speaker 1: one and West as we look at the big picture
Speaker 1: here with the Packers roster. The question we continue to
Speaker 1: get on our insider inbox column and one that you
Speaker 1: and I are both waiting to see how it plays out,
Speaker 1: is what is going to happen with Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: a potential contract extension. Because we've talked about this before
Speaker 1: the last time the Packers extend did Aaron Rodgers contract,
Speaker 1: it was when he had two years left on his deal.
Speaker 1: So this is the time. So reading the tea leaves
Speaker 1: and the timeline, this would be the time to you know,
Speaker 1: not let him get too close to that final year
Speaker 1: of a contract where then a player starts to think, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I should play it out and see what's out there.
Speaker 1: Your franchise quarterback. If you don't want him to go anywhere,
Speaker 1: you take care of him when when there's enough time
Speaker 1: left on his deal, so you you make it worth
Speaker 1: his while to to sort of shut down that possibility
Speaker 1: of of of looking at what's out there on the market,
Speaker 1: and a boy with what's going on in the quarterback world,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's new contract, what could happen with Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: and his contract as the as the top guy out
Speaker 1: there in free agency? Um, this could get really interesting
Speaker 1: here for Green Bay. I think it's inevitable that this
Speaker 1: is the way the league is going to go because
Speaker 1: it is a quarterback driven league. Might we say it
Speaker 1: time and time again, And I think you're starting to
Speaker 1: see that re reflected with how much this salary cap
Speaker 1: has jumped. I was talking to you about this before
Speaker 1: the show, the fact that I believe the projected estimated
Speaker 1: salary cap for two thousand eighteen is going to be
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy eight million. My first year when
Speaker 1: I came on the beat in two thousand twelve, it
Speaker 1: was a hundred and twenty million, and it's basically jumped
Speaker 1: anywhere from ten to fifteen million per season since then,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing more money for the players,
Speaker 1: but it also I think puts an even more emphasis
Speaker 1: on the quarterback position. I think we're entering a league
Speaker 1: where it's not going to be uncommon to see a
Speaker 1: quarterback making over thirty million dollars per season. But there
Speaker 1: also is a difference there is you just alluded to
Speaker 1: in terms of guys that you have that you can
Speaker 1: control and guys that are entering an unrestricted free agency
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, as we said yesterday, the reason why the
Speaker 1: Jaguars were able to be a little bit more flexible
Speaker 1: with that contract is the fact that they did pick
Speaker 1: up his fift year option, and they were able to
Speaker 1: leverage that in terms of spreading out that signing bonus.
Speaker 1: Whoever signs Kirk Cousins will not have that benefit. The
Speaker 1: forty Niners did not have that benefit with Jimmy Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: but they had also been one of the league's biggest
Speaker 1: in terms of cap space, one of the least spenders
Speaker 1: after that fire sale, they've had the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: so they had the room to absorb it. The team
Speaker 1: that does with Kirk Cousins gonna be very interesting, though.
Speaker 1: From the Packers perspective, have been really smart with how
Speaker 1: they've handled their cap. You've never really had to see
Speaker 1: them cut anybody just for cap casualty purposes. And now
Speaker 1: I'm sure once the day comes, whether that's this offseason,
Speaker 1: whenever that comes, you know, ultimately they're going to get
Speaker 1: this thing done. It's just a matter of when. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you see these stories that that are out there,
Speaker 1: and again, you know, you don't know what exactly is
Speaker 1: the truth or not. But I saw a story last
Speaker 1: week I believe it was the Jets, somebody reporting that
Speaker 1: somebody from the Jets saying they will pay whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to sign Kirk Cousins because that's that's the guy
Speaker 1: they want as their new quarterback. Now, whether that's true
Speaker 1: or not, I set that aside. But with what's going
Speaker 1: on with Kirk Cousins. I mean, if you're Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and you know the Packers are gonna look at extending
Speaker 1: you here with two years left on your deal with
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins out there in free agency, Hey, from Roger's
Speaker 1: point of view, there's there's no rush. I have to
Speaker 1: believe that he's going to see what type of contract
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins gets before he agrees to to an extension,
Speaker 1: because you know the Garoppolo deal is out there. Um.
Speaker 1: But then other quarterbacks you know, are probably going to
Speaker 1: be a year or two down the road before before
Speaker 1: their deals get redone. I mean Matthew Stafford not that
Speaker 1: long ago, had his deal redone. So those are the
Speaker 1: ones that Aaron Rodgers and his agent can can base
Speaker 1: things off of because they know that well, basically he
Speaker 1: ranks higher than anybody else who's gotten a deal to
Speaker 1: this point. So for Aaron Rodgers too, I know Packer
Speaker 1: fans getting a little worried or impatient or whatever the
Speaker 1: case might be, but he's not going to sign anything
Speaker 1: until Kirk Cousins gets his deal. Yeah, And I remember
Speaker 1: this too in two thousand and thirteen, It is a
Speaker 1: very similar sentiment with that contract coming up and how
Speaker 1: much he was playing below league average at that point,
Speaker 1: the Packers took care of him. He was the highest
Speaker 1: paid quarterback at that time. We'll see all the shuffles
Speaker 1: out again. On top of Cousins. The other two things
Speaker 1: A really factor and I think I'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: watch this offseason is what happens with Drew Brees. What
Speaker 1: is the contract that the New Orleans Saints give him?
Speaker 1: And then also, I don't know if you saw that, Mike,
Speaker 1: but agent McCarron's an unrestricted free agent now he won
Speaker 1: that appeal with the Cincinnati Bengals. Whoever, if I made
Speaker 1: you McCarron, I'm waiting to see what that contract is
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins, which teams lose out on them and
Speaker 1: you know, potentially get paid there too, because he's going
Speaker 1: to be an attractive one as well. Yeah, the heat
Speaker 1: that maybe how he finds his landing spot eventually. But
Speaker 1: with that, we'll toss to a breakback with more on
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside Wes Hodkowits and West just to remind
Speaker 1: folks again, as I said at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: we are off to Indianapolis after this show. We're going
Speaker 1: to be at the NFL Scouting Combine for a handful
Speaker 1: of days. We'll have a ton of coverage from there.
Speaker 1: We'll have unscripted shows, We'll have stories on packers dot com,
Speaker 1: we'll have videos. Larry McCarron will be with us. We'll
Speaker 1: see um what sorts of work we can do with him.
Speaker 1: I will be hearing from Mike McCarthy, Brian Goudakuns, all
Speaker 1: these hundreds of prospects. I don't know what what your
Speaker 1: thoughts are, IM. I'm curious to just maybe hear from
Speaker 1: some of these some of these players that have been
Speaker 1: tied to the Packers and all these mock drafts that
Speaker 1: have been coming out. You know, your Marcus Davenport, your
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, some of these defensive players that the mock
Speaker 1: drafters are predicting will be there for the Packers, that
Speaker 1: the Packers might select at fourteen. I'm a little curious
Speaker 1: just to hear what what they have to say about
Speaker 1: about where they think they're gonna end up. What's very interesting, Michael,
Speaker 1: is that when you do pick. Earlier, were talking yesterday's
Speaker 1: show about just exactly what that's like and how it
Speaker 1: really narrows the focus for GM. It also narrows the
Speaker 1: focus for all the pundits to trying to guess, you know,
Speaker 1: who the packers could potentially pick. Remember thinking back to
Speaker 1: two thousand six and A. J. Hawkinting picked up the
Speaker 1: fifth overall pick, and you know whether it might be
Speaker 1: him or Vernon Davis. Even in two thousand nine, if B. J.
Speaker 1: Roger was going to be there for them, Well, now
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a chance to see and get a
Speaker 1: chance with some of these guys are like and get
Speaker 1: a feel for them. I love with the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I know sometimes the league can take a lot of
Speaker 1: hits from the outside. I love what they've done with
Speaker 1: the scouting combine over the last two years. It's a
Speaker 1: lot more hospitable the prospects. You know when you're going
Speaker 1: to be getting them. I think they've done a great
Speaker 1: job with that NFL experience, which is almost like a
Speaker 1: mini combine that they run for fans. Now, yeah, they've
Speaker 1: made it much more of a fan event. There's a
Speaker 1: lot more that fans can do and and just check
Speaker 1: out the scene and see what's going on rather than
Speaker 1: being trapped in that hospitality suite as well. Um, now
Speaker 1: they have everything spread out the end of the inn.
Speaker 1: A Convention Center is a phenomenal venue and it's just
Speaker 1: amazing thing to be a part of because walking around,
Speaker 1: I mean you see every coach, every GM, the agent's
Speaker 1: meeting is going on, uh in a building right next
Speaker 1: to it as well. So the really the energy in
Speaker 1: the place. You can feel the next season starting to
Speaker 1: come to bloom a little bit. It is, it's where
Speaker 1: the pages turned. In essence, everybody in the league converges
Speaker 1: on Indianapolis. It's the perfect city to to have an
Speaker 1: event like this, and it really is it. It feels
Speaker 1: like the start of a new year and everyone gets
Speaker 1: excited too. So it's like, I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: neat to be a part of that and exactly see
Speaker 1: what it's like, um, you know when everything comes together.
Speaker 1: But for the packers picking four overall, chance to really
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of these prospects and get a
Speaker 1: feel for it. Yeah, and when when we're standing in
Speaker 1: line at Steak and Shake, if you don't want the
Speaker 1: cherry on top of your snickers, malt I'll take it
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, Okay, that'd be awesome. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the other thing too. I mean them on a
Speaker 1: restaurants there. We don't have steak and shakes up in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin for the most part, so that's always all over
Speaker 1: it then. Um, but also you know, and just seeing
Speaker 1: I mean I've been in line at Starbucks before with
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. I always tell that story. I mean, is
Speaker 1: he's waiting behind me to get my lot to I
Speaker 1: mean last year, Gus Bradley, I mean, those guys, they're
Speaker 1: all over the place. It's a good chance to reset
Speaker 1: and get ready for that next season. Yeah. Well, we
Speaker 1: will see all the fans from Indianapolis next time, but
Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.
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