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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to Wes hod Koits,

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Speaker 1: and we're coming to you here from our studios at

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field and West as you and I get ready

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Speaker 1: where we're going to be shooting a handful of shows

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Speaker 1: from there. So this is our our last show here

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Speaker 1: in the studio for a while. We'll be doing a

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Speaker 1: But in preparation for that, you had a couple of

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Speaker 1: stories on packers dot com over the last week just

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Speaker 1: looking at the Packers roster and where it sits on

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Speaker 1: offense and defense heading into the scouting Combine, in terms

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Speaker 1: of who's under contract, who's not under contract, and just

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Speaker 1: where things stand. Starting on the offensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: Um Jarry Evans, Jeff Janis, Richard Rogers, and if you

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Speaker 1: count long snapper Brett Good on the offensive side, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that just for the time being. Those are the

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Speaker 1: four unrestricted free agents pending unrestricted free agents. I should

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Speaker 1: say that they will be free agents on March four.

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Speaker 1: If the Packers do not resign them. It's not actually

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Speaker 1: a whole lot to deal with because, as we talked about,

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Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley and Davante Adams were already taking care of

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Speaker 1: at the end of December. So with regards to where

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Speaker 1: the Packers sit on offense right now, what are your thoughts? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're sitting pretty honestly. They with getting Davante Adams done.

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Speaker 1: And you saw this past week, Mike, we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jarvis Landry getting an extent or getting his

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Speaker 1: and trying to lack, you know, kind of lock up

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Speaker 1: there really talented young receivers. Davante Adams turned twenty five

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Speaker 1: years old on Christmas Eve. This is a guy heading

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Speaker 1: into his peak years and I think has shown a

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Speaker 1: continual maturation improvement throughout his time in Green Bay. This

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Speaker 1: was a must for the Packers personnel department, and as

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Speaker 1: it turned out, within days forty eight hours of that

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Speaker 1: what ended up being, you know, his final moves really

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Speaker 1: as Packers general manager, getting Corey Linsley taking care of

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Speaker 1: the Packers center, the first time a Packers center has

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Speaker 1: received a second contract since two thousand and six, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Wells, and then also yeah, Scott Wells. Mike Wells,

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Speaker 1: that's you gotta love it all right, but no, but

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Speaker 1: you had Scott Wells get that extension. And Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has talked for so long how important it is for

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Speaker 1: And then now you also have probably one of the

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Speaker 1: Those two extensions, getting those done in addition to the

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Speaker 1: as big of a cap hit going forward, is important,

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Speaker 1: guy suggested that maybe he's not quite done playing yet. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Packers are going to look at where

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford. Right here, West, Hodko,

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Speaker 1: It's all the way over there, West. Okay. Let's take

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Speaker 1: in terms of the players under contract and those not

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this one's gonna work out, West,

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Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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Speaker 1: He's still at West Hot I'm at Mike Spofford at

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