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Speaker 1: What's up everybody on Peanut Tillman and this is the

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Speaker 1: NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me, as always

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Speaker 1: my trusty co hosts Lavender, Roman Harper. What's up baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good. Really excited about our next guest.

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Speaker 2: Guest.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I have not got to talk to

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Speaker 3: this gentleman before.

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Speaker 4: He's got a great background, a great history, comes from

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Speaker 4: a crazy athletic family.

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Speaker 3: I actually got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give him a rundown of what happens when

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Speaker 4: I ask my kids the first thing that comes to

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Speaker 4: mind about the last name of his family.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Played fullback in the NFL for four different teams. He

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Speaker 1: is a member of the Gronkowski family, and now he

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Speaker 1: is the CEO and creator of a ice Shaker.

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Speaker 3: Brandy.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chris Gonkowski to the part.

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Speaker 2: There we go? What sha you man? Yeah? For sure?

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Speaker 3: All right, Chris, Yeah, I gotta so.

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Speaker 4: First thing, so I told my children I was interviewing

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Speaker 4: uh A Gronkowski, Chris Gonkowski, And they said, I said,

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Speaker 4: what is the first thing that comes to mind when

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Speaker 4: you hear the word Gronkowski?

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Speaker 2: Number one?

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Speaker 3: They said, athletic.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that. You know, I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 3: Me neither.

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Speaker 4: I was not expecting that either. But that's what they said.

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Speaker 4: They said athletic like. Then my daughter said big. It's

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Speaker 4: like okay, then you know what I mean. Then my

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Speaker 4: son said strong, right, all right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And so these are the words kids ask them what

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Speaker 4: they think about it when they hear me my name,

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Speaker 4: now that thing they call you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: What is it peel to have everybody their first thought process?

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Speaker 3: And these are younger people.

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Speaker 4: My kids are thirteen to five, and so these are

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Speaker 4: the mindset when they hear Gronkowski. They connect you all

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Speaker 4: to these great words that you like, these these great adjectives.

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Speaker 4: There's still words, but more descriptive is adjective to describe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I mean. It's good to be a role model,

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Speaker 2: that has helped with like the Nickelodeon shows and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that that my brother has been on, where they

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Speaker 2: And I got four kids myself now, so I love

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Speaker 4: And how does it feel to have four out of

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Speaker 2: My dad's told everyone that he's met over the last

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Speaker 2: I think they know the whole story at this point.

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Speaker 2: But pretty cool. My oldest brother still thinks he could

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Speaker 2: He actually never played ever in no way baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So, Okay, what's the best thing about so I have?

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Speaker 1: I have one older brother and close. You know, he

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Speaker 2: So I think it just took us, not only on

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Speaker 4: So what kind offense were you guys? Weren't you you

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Speaker 2: No? It was they were just using me more as

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, okay, what's the worst thing about having

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Speaker 2: The worst thing is that they can't tell us apart

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Speaker 2: But so I get called like land a lot because

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Speaker 2: And this point, you know, at the beginning, how you

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Speaker 3: What term is that you tell me a term that

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Speaker 2: Even yeah, I mean it, you know when they say, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, how did you end up undrafted on a

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Speaker 2: I went into college hoping I could get a scholarship.

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Speaker 2: after my junior year, it was really about have a

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Speaker 1: So when you came to Dallas, what was your first

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Speaker 1: in person Jerry Jones? Because he's got this really big personality,

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Speaker 4: I mean they called the stadium Jerry World. Let's just

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Speaker 4: be honest, this is they don't call anybody else's stamm.

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Speaker 2: After is he like hiding around the He's definitely not

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Speaker 2: allowed to say anything I.

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Speaker 1: But like, what was your first and person off?

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Speaker 2: I mean, my whole thing with him was everyone made

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Speaker 3: In college like oh, you can't can't do anything.

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Speaker 2: Is this the league? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You got a touch down?

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Speaker 2: got released with the injury settlement. So I took that

436
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 2: and got a fourth season.

437
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 4: So are you telling any of your teammates about your

438
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 4: other side hull so that you have with your wife

439
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,639
Speaker 4: that's running out your father in laws like Kitten, That

440
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,320
Speaker 4: was like, because I would not as a player, I'm like,

441
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 4: I mean, so I.

442
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 2: Did that for five years and I told nobody.

443
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

444
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,200
Speaker 2: I actually within a year I was making more doing

445
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,440
Speaker 2: that than I was playing in the NFL really and

446
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,639
Speaker 2: doing that with my wife, and I didn't tell a

447
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 2: person like my teammates and friends started, you know, retiring

448
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,479
Speaker 2: from the NFL or you know, walking away, and at

449
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 2: that point they're like, hey, man, like, what do you

450
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,639
Speaker 2: what do you do now? I'm like, oh, you know,

451
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm kind of just doing my thing over here, man, like,

452
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,760
Speaker 2: you know, kind of whatever. I went to tell them, and

453
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 2: they're like, it's like, what do you like what do

454
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 2: you do every day? Though? And you know, I kind

455
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,159
Speaker 2: of just do this thing like with my wife that

456
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 2: she does, but I didn't really explain. It was mostly

457
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 2: like wedding gifts. So it was like brides made groomsmen

458
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,240
Speaker 2: gifts for weddings, and we customized items. I kind of

459
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 2: made like the mail version shop. I had like pocket

460
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 2: knives and flash and stuff like that. She kind of

461
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 2: had the girly side with like tumblers and like cutting

462
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,119
Speaker 2: boards and stuff like that. And we created two competing

463
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 2: sites and it really taught me how to just do

464
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 2: e commerce for the most part. Yeah, so really figured

465
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 2: it out, how to how to build it, how to

466
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 2: source product, how to market, how to fulfill customer service,

467
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,679
Speaker 2: the whole deal. And I did that for about five

468
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: years with my wife, and then at that point five years,

469
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: I was going really a lot of people started calling

470
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: and they were all like kind of leaving the NFL

471
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,159
Speaker 2: at that point, and they're like, man, what do you do? Hey?

472
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't answer that question. I realized that, you know,

473
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 2: this is doing really well, but this is not me. Like,

474
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, I grew up my dad owns a fitness

475
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 2: equipment company. You know, I played sports my whole life.

476
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm into fitness, Like, how do I get back into

477
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 2: that world? And that was kind of the question on

478
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: my mind at that point.

479
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 1: So then you come up with the eye shaker, wor

480
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: did that? Where did that idea? Where that concept come from?

481
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: So they kind of man kind of originated from my

482
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 2: wife's business. So a lot of people were coming in.

483
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 2: They're bringing different cups in and they were saying, hey,

484
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: can you customize this? And the one that exploded at

485
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: that time in twenty sixteen was the Yettie cup. So

486
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 2: they just had the thirty ounce tumblr I didn't want

487
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: one because we were selling them about one hundred fifty

488
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,239
Speaker 2: bucks apiece every time we personalized them. And we're just

489
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 2: flying through. You were selling single YETI personalized one hundred

490
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks. So I was hustling, like I was

491
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: going to like every academy, calling them every week, saying like, hey,

492
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: when's your next yetti shipman? Come in? All right, just

493
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: leave them all in the box. I'll come buy them

494
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 2: at full retail and they're like okay, and I'd show

495
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: up and they just leave them the box. I'd take

496
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: hundreds at a time, or however many they would give me,

497
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: bring them back to our shop. We put them online,

498
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 2: and we selling them one hundred fifty bucks apiece e commerce.

499
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: All right, go back, go back, answer peanuts question. I

500
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 3: got distracted with.

501
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: I was processing as you were talking.

502
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: I was like forty bucks each. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he

503
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: buy them for forty and then we customize them and

504
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: resell them, yeah for more.

505
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at it.

506
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean that's what people were paying.

507
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, So explain to so I saw you on

508
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 4: Shark Tank, but explain to the viewer and to our

509
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 4: listeners that have not seen that, what exactly Ice Shaker is,

510
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: the concept behind it and why you started it.

511
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. So we're here in Dallas it was

512
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: like one hundred five degrees out during the summer. I

513
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: think it was July at the time, and I was

514
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: going to the gym. You I'd actually use this insulated

515
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: cup at work and that go home and I grab

516
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: a plastic shaker because that's all that was out there

517
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: at that time, fill it up, you know, BCA's or water,

518
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: whatever it was, and go to the gym. By the

519
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: time I got there was sweating. I was making little

520
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: sweat rings on the ground. And I'm like, man, there's

521
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: this technology out there, but I can't shake or mix

522
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: anything in it. I don't. I just create something that can.

523
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: So that was the whole idea. It's the stupidest, simplest

524
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 2: idea that no one's ever done. So I figured I'd

525
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: go online and just buy one, went home, jump on Amazon,

526
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: nothing out there, googled it, nothing out there, and it's

527
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: kind of like, I, you know, this is kind of

528
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: my way back into fitness and sports and you know,

529
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 2: kind of doing what I like to do. I'm going

530
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 2: to jump on this, So I did. I ended up

531
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: ordering ten thousand units was my initial order. Were already

532
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: sourcing product and I was already doing that with my

533
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: wife's company, so I kind of already knew how to

534
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: do it, got the products, thought it was going to

535
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: be the easiest selling the world. Posted on Twitter at

536
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: the time because that's all that was out there, had

537
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: like thirty thousand followers, and I'm like, man, this is

538
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: going to blow up. And I sold two bottles the

539
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: first week, and I was like, we got a problem here.

540
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: So that's how it all started though, and then from

541
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: there it was kind of just how do I get sales?

542
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: You know, I kind of followed the same routine that

543
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: I did with my wife. We did it on Etsy.

544
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: I went to Amazon, figured out how to rank at

545
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: the top, how to get reviews, product photos, the whole deal,

546
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: started ranking up there, and then started doing local shows.

547
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: So it was kind of like the bodybuilding shows at first,

548
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: the local ones. People were there and you know.

549
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: You got to go to the gym bros.

550
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like they're all in there, a small body

551
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: building show, so guy, this is the place to start.

552
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: And it was just it was just sitting there and

553
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: talking people down in an aisle and having them grab

554
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: our bottle and grab a plastic one and saying, you know, hey,

555
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: there's ice in this one. And they're like, there's no way,

556
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, there's no way there's ice in it. They'd

557
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: open it up, there's ice in it, keep it cold

558
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: for thirty plus hours, and it was like, I need

559
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: this cup and we just started selling a ton of cups.

560
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: What's what I want to know is so that was

561
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: that was a shark tank experience, right.

562
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: That was the very beginning.

563
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: That was the beginning.

564
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: You can ask about his shark tank experience. Nope, Nope,

565
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 4: you're not gonna ask them.

566
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: I want you to ask them.

567
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh well, let's talk about it. I want to know

568
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: because it's a TV show.

569
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: Sure.

570
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 4: So and you had all your brothers there with you, yep.

571
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: I mean you guys came out. Did it helps the

572
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: whole broft?

573
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: You got chess bumps?

574
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, a couple of chess buff flip cup yeah yeah.

575
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: They played flip cup with the with the with the

576
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: the shark, and it was good. It was a great production.

577
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: It got us excited about it. Whether we thought the

578
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 4: product worked or not, we were excited. And did you know, like,

579
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 4: all right, what was the game plan going into it?

580
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: I saw the number you were like ten percent for

581
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand yep. You ended up getting giving away

582
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: fifteen percent for one hundred and fifty thousand. Fine, what

583
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: was the game plan for you? Like, all right, what

584
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 4: do I want to come out of here with? And

585
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 4: then like, how are we going to sell this?

586
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure? So for me, we're only six months

587
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: in on the company at that point. Uh. At that point,

588
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, I just got it six months before that.

589
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 2: I'm hustling, I'm doing shows, I'm doing whatever I can

590
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: to get my sales up as high as possible, so

591
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: I could go on there and ask for a million

592
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: dollar evaluation, right. Uh. But my game plan was really

593
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: like I want I want a deal. You know, this

594
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: was a side hustle for me. I was doing this

595
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: when I got home after work, and the wife's business

596
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: was doing more than enough to support us at that point,

597
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: so I was like, man, I got nothing to lose, right,

598
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: so let's go on here, let's actually try to get

599
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: a deal and let's lock something up.

600
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: So how did you first? How did you get on?

601
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: So it came from my agent actually emailed. It was

602
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. I was with the Broncos. It was just

603
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: an email saying, you know, the show was looking for

604
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: any current or former NFL players. For them, it was

605
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: a way for them to grow their audience. So they're

606
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 2: trying to get players. There's players that go on there

607
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: all the time, in different celebrities as well, and all

608
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: they're really trying to do is get more people to

609
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: watch the show, so they're reaching out. I knew that.

610
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: I knew I had an advantage. I didn't have to

611
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: go to the trade show or like the whole deal

612
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 2: that a lot of people have to go to, and

613
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: I got to skip all those steps. I actually hit

614
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: them back. It was almost five years later. It was

615
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen when I hit them back. So I got

616
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: the email in twenty twelve, five years later. I wrote

617
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: back to it and they answered.

618
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: Like I just got this. Yeah.

619
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The girls like I don't even work there anymore,

620
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: but she passed me off to the one that does,

621
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: and they were like, yeah, we'll like just make a video.

622
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there like I got to make a video.

623
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: I gotta make this good. So I did the whole video,

624
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: like working out, ripping my shirt off. I'm throwing in

625
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: like the clips of my one touchdown, getting Rob in there,

626
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, Rob, I need you in this

627
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: video for a minute, right, like just you know, chug

628
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: out of this bottle, like scream into the camera. And

629
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: so he made this video, send it in and just unlisted.

630
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm like on YouTube and you just wait. And it's

631
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: like five days later, I saw there's five views on it.

632
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: They called and they're like, man, that video is awesome,

633
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: Like it's five views, yeah, they like five, Well, it's unlisted,

634
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: so like five producers watched it or whatever. So then

635
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: from there like it's you know, it's months actually, like

636
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: it's a ton of paperwork. And then they want to

637
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: get you ready for the moment because they wanted to

638
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: actually be a good production. Yeah, they wanted to look

639
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: good on TV because enough people get on there and

640
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: they freeze. Yeah, they have enough content of bad materials.

641
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: So they want you to actually you know, be prepared

642
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: and and you know, know your numbers and put on

643
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: a good presentation. So went back and forth with you know,

644
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: the producers of the show so that you were ready

645
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: for that moment. And then uh, as soon as they

646
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: asked if all my brothers would be on the show,

647
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, it's a done deal now,

648
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: like I'm going to be on the show for sure.

649
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: So I got them all in. They maybe flying first

650
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: class man, and that was my biggest business expense at

651
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 2: that time, so I was kind of pissed about it.

652
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: They each were like two thousand dollars flights and I

653
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: had to fly them all in that night. But got there,

654
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: they hit them. They actually the show is, I mean,

655
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: it's legit, so they don't know anything beside your name

656
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: when you walk out there. They had no idea. They

657
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: didn't know the name of the product, didn't know the

658
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: name of the family. They had no idea my brothers

659
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: were there. They got there, they hit them in the back,

660
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 2: so the producers didn't even see my brothers there. And

661
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: then like when they ran out on the stage, like

662
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: that was a real reaction. Yeah. Yeah, I think Mark

663
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 2: might have known who they were, but I don't think

664
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: anyone else even had any idea what was going on.

665
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: They did not, of course with the show.

666
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: Mark, even as you started going, Mark's like, hey, look

667
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: to our audience for somebody that doesn't know, this is

668
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: the gron Colci because the female I forget her name.

669
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: So we had Lori on there, and then we.

670
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: Had Barbara Yeah as well, and she was like, oh

671
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: my gosh, you guys are so accomplished. She had no idea,

672
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: so it was just really cool how it all kind

673
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: of came out on.

674
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: TV for sure. So I mean, real deal, real pitch,

675
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: real money.

676
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

677
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Rob actually didn't know his real money. He's like, he's like, so, like,

678
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: what'd you win? I was like, man, I was like, no,

679
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: like legitimately invested in the company. But yeah, I mean

680
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: it went from then, you know, eighty thousand and sales

681
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: in the first six months to over the next twelve

682
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: months we did over three million in sales.

683
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: So they really helped you, like boost it. So you

684
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: really do get exposure day exposure.

685
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean if you go on there, you

686
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: have a good presentation, you have a product that's easy

687
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: to buy for consumer, which we did, and then you

688
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: get offers from all five it's kind of this buying

689
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: signal to everyone that's watching too. Yeah this product. So

690
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: the exposures massive five million people watching it, and then

691
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: it's really like it's an ultimate pitch for me. You're

692
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: watching eight minutes of me pitching a product to you

693
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, that is pretty cool. I'm to

694
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: buy it. So it's super valuable. We have reruns all

695
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: the time, and it still you know, hits our site

696
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: and we get a couple thousand views to a site

697
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: and you know, our sales spike every time. Still so

698
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: great experience. Uh, you know that wave then goes and

699
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: keeps going and people watching Hulu and it lasts for

700
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: about two months, and then after that you're like, man,

701
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: I got to actually figure out how to run a

702
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: business now at this point. So that worked all the

703
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: way we are at October, went right through the holidays,

704
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: and then really January ends up being New Year's Resolution,

705
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: and then after that in February, it was kind of

706
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: my like moment where I've realized I need to know,

707
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: you know, kind of figure out what to do here.

708
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did so when you sold it? Who all

709
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: did you pitch it.

710
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: To or not? Scuby?

711
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I know you pitched everyone. Which person gave you the

712
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: best option as far as who you want to partner with?

713
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: So we had we had Alex Rodriguez as a guest

714
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: on the show, and then I wanted Mark because you know,

715
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: just the the sports aspect of it, and he was

716
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 2: in Dallas as well, so goal was Mark. When they

717
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: have a guest that seems like they try to get

718
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: the guest in on a deal as fast as possible,

719
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: because that's kind of the point of him being on

720
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: the show.

721
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: Hey Rod jumped in, So yeah, Mark, that was right away.

722
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: Mark was like, I'll do it if Alex does it,

723
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: and you kind of realized really quickly, like this is

724
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: the part that's made for TV. You know, we got

725
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: to get this guest in on it as well. So

726
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about Alex or really anything he

727
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: was doing, because that was the first time he was

728
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: on the show, and you know, there wasn't really much

729
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: information on there about him, so I didn't know if

730
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: would be good or bad at that point. But to me,

731
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: it was just get a deal and let's see what happens.

732
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Because it's it's not my main source income anyways. This

733
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: is kind of a you know, the side also that

734
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: hopefully just explodes.

735
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: So do you have a relationship or entering or do

736
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: you have any interactions with Mark Cuban.

737
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: So right away realize that, you know, this was season

738
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: nine when I went on, Mark had a full team

739
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: built out. It was Mark Cuban Companies. You signed me

740
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: an advisor immediately, and then you know, Really, it's the

741
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: advisor that's helping you out. That's the guy in the trenches.

742
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: That's the guy that's working with all the companies all

743
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: the time. You know, Mark's not going to dig in

744
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: on a seventy five thousand dollars investment and you know

745
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: put his time and effort into it. So this guy

746
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: was assigned to us. You know, I could ask anything

747
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: and super early on like I was all over them,

748
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, like, how do how do I advertise on Facebook?

749
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: You know? Should I do text messaging? Who's doing this? Well?

750
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 2: Can you connect me with the Good Morning America? Can

751
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: you get me on QBC? And you get me in GNC?

752
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: And this is all things that they were able to

753
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: help with right off the bat.

754
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 3: Thanks. So this is what I want to know at

755
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: the beginning that I was not going.

756
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: To do for all.

757
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: Right here it is ready, here it comes. How do

758
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: you do it?

759
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: How do you get the licensing for the teams? Not

760
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: only that I care less about the teams. I thought

761
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: it was cool because you know, a Rod was there,

762
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: and then I heard one of your brothers or maybe

763
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: you like, dude, we got NBA and MLB and so

764
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: you also have licensing with both of those because you

765
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: can get the ice shaker with your favorite team, all teams,

766
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: all teams, all leagues. But I'm more important with what

767
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: me and Jay are talking about. How you get Dragon

768
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: ball z.

769
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: My guys, that's a secret one right there.

770
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: That's the killing the moment that was I'm like, oh, bro,

771
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: I'm in Yeah.

772
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy because i mean the sports teams are super popular. Yes,

773
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: they're hard to get to the one the hard the

774
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: hardest one against the NFL, yes, of course, so we

775
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: were able to get the smaller ones. N C DOUAA

776
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: is super easy. Uh, you still have to figure out

777
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: They fill out all the paperwork and then you got

778
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: to pay all the royalties and it's it's not fun.

779
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: You gotta track it all. You gotta submit all the

780
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: reports quarterly or monthly, depending on how much you're selling.

781
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: But uh, NFL is tough to get. I mean you're

782
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: paying a six figure royalty up front, Like, man, that's

783
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: that's tough. And then they're limiting you to a certain category.

784
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: And for us with shaker only, and you know, we

785
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: sell drugs, we sell time, we saw cups and they're like,

786
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: we'll give you Shaker only. You got to pay six

787
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: figures up front. I'm like, man, that's that's tough. Their

788
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: machine and they want to make the most money as possible.

789
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, Jerry, Jerry knows how to do it. Is

790
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: with that, we actually went to a licensing show. I

791
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: met another group that already had the license and they

792
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: were looking for a bottle. Uh, so we actually partnered

793
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: up with them and then uh they were able to

794
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: use their license and bring our product in and license

795
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: it for us in the sports world connection. From that

796
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: same show, then we know we we met the dragon

797
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: ball Z's Ice is another one that we just launched.

798
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. You take an iconic logo like icy

799
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: that's been around for fifty plus years and you put

800
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: it on a bottle and we sold out in thirty days.

801
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that's pretty cool. Bigley choose another

802
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: one that we'll probably have coming here too. But kind

803
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: of just take these iconic logos and you put them

804
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: on a bottle.

805
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: And so you've met dragon ball Z people.

806
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Just know it's not it's not actually the dragon ball

807
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: Z people. It's all through licensing companies is what you're

808
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: going to actually work with. So okay, yeah, you're not yeah,

809
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: like you're you're working with someone you know. We had

810
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: a ask Yeah, yeah, well I just didn't know, but

811
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: just trust me. Me and my man Jay we were like,

812
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, Jay, they got dragon ball Z. And what

813
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: we found out really quickly is like the smaller niche

814
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: ones kind of like you know, like a dragon ball

815
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Z that no one's really tapped into. Those ones are

816
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: the ones that crushed for us.

817
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean Joe Guy just saying if.

818
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: I might have to start looking that up. It is.

819
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: It's a little hard to figure out who you got

820
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: to talk to and how to get it, and then

821
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: you are paying royalties and you're paying upfront royalties too.

822
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: So uh. But the benefit is is that somebody that's

823
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: a dragon ball Z fan that doesn't care about working

824
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: out or even know who the Gradkowski brothers are the product,

825
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: they're still going to buy it. Yes, And now you

826
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: just introduce yourself to an entire new audience that would

827
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: have never seen your product.

828
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: Otherwise, at what point does it make sense for you

829
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: guys to make the deal versus a passing Because you're saying,

830
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: like six figure up front? This one was this one

831
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: like in your mind when you're you're running it. What

832
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: what is the point that's like, I won't cross.

833
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean a hundred hundred K stuff, I

834
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: can tell you. Yeah, we try to. We try to

835
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: survey it out and then we'll also sometimes try to

836
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: just put up your test to see we have the

837
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: ability to custom engrave ourselves. So we did with dragon

838
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: Ball because I had no idea and everyone kept telling me, yo,

839
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: this is huge, Like you can do it. We can

840
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: print on demand, so we could actually print on demand.

841
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: We could test it first and if it sells, then

842
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: we can we can go all in on it.

843
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: And how do you test it? You just like print

844
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: like ten twelve maybe and if.

845
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: It's a secret sauce, yeah for sure.

846
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: So you can do that sometimes, Like you could even

847
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: put up a listing and you know, put ten on

848
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: it and then say it sold out and refund everyone. Yeah,

849
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: I got that's a way to kind of test it

850
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: without actually bringing the product in yet. I got you.

851
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, sorry, already sold out?

852
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no worries. I want to know. So I'm a

853
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: military military bret myself with my dad serving shout out pops,

854
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: thank you for your service. What's the connection between your

855
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: company and veterans.

856
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I guess really that all started college.

857
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: We went to Fort Wachuka at Arizona, and then the

858
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: NFL does a great job with connecting you as well

859
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: with the military, So from there I think that connection

860
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: was kind of there. Rob would visit a ton of

861
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: bases as well. He do pro camps at bases, and

862
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: then he worked with USO too, and then he works

863
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: with USAA, So there's kind of just this whole NFL

864
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: military connection. And then from that, the company and the

865
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: product itself just related to military members. You know, they're

866
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: working out, they're always active, they need water. So from

867
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: day one, we kept getting people reaching out and just saying, hey,

868
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: can you guys send care packages? And I always said yes.

869
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: Came to the point then like once you sent a

870
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: couple care packages out and people find out, then like

871
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: the floods right, like everyone starts asking for him. So

872
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: I kept saying yes, And at that point I realized, like, man,

873
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm getting crushed on this, Like how do I continue

874
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: to do this but fund it? So we then created

875
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: a program where we created bottles that were military themed

876
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: and then everyone that was purchased, we donated one to

877
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: active military. At that point, we had a partner operated

878
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Supply Drop. They would send them all out for us,

879
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: because the most expensive part by far was shipping shipping,

880
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: because you're shipping too, I mean around the world, and

881
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: you're shipping with really just the post office the only

882
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: one that will send it there, and it takes forever.

883
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: It's really expensive. And so they came in and they

884
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: funded that they had like the like the aircraft routes,

885
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: or they had a way to get it to them

886
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: without going through the post office, which was great. So

887
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: that also helped us just vet the people was going

888
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 2: to because we found out really quickly too that people

889
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: would ask for it and then they'd get it and

890
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: they just resell it. They'd be like, hey, man, I

891
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: got a hundred guys in my squad, can you send

892
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: one hundred bottles out? They get it and they won't

893
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: give it to anyone. They just keep it or sell

894
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: it or whatever. So we did a lot of that

895
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: and then yeah, it got to the point where we

896
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: were donated thousands of bottles to that program. We lost

897
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: that partner, so then instead we transitioned now to a

898
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: program on our website where you can pick from different

899
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: military foundations that you could donate one percent of your

900
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: sale from that we actually give the money back for.

901
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: So that's that's where we're at at this point. But

902
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: always trying to support as much as we can. Yeah,

903
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of different foundations that we make products

904
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: for and then we donate the money back to them

905
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: on those those products as well. Like that sweet? All right?

906
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: So what's next for you guys? What's next for ice

907
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 4: shaker Man? We got what's Yeah, what's next?

908
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Still? More licensing's coming. We have all the Marvel stuff now,

909
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. I saw that. So we have

910
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: a lot, I mean a lot of characters there that

911
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: we haven't even touched yet. Even dragon Ball, we haven't

912
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: touched all of them. No, you have none. We have

913
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: a lot left there. I did like trunks though, I

914
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Yeah, and we can make those full colored

915
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: as well. Sal has been a good sealer for us

916
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: as well. But with that, a lot of licensing left

917
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: and then just new products. We're always trying to create

918
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: new stuff. I think there's a huge niche in youth sports.

919
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: I got three boys now, I play and coach way

920
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: too much baseball and the flag football at this point.

921
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: So realize that you know that market. People want swag

922
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: like they want their kids, right, so we could customize,

923
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: We customize bottles, names, numbers, logos, the whole deal. We

924
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: turn in three to five business days. So that's a

925
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: huge market for us as well. You know, you have

926
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: a half gallon jug. It's one hundred degrees out today.

927
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Kids have to have water on the field. And then

928
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: you know the moms are just gonna pimp them out

929
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: as much as possible. So realize really quickly, find the

930
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: team mom, put up an ad or let her know

931
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: about the product, and you know that's that's twelve jugs

932
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: sold almost immediately.

933
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: It's crazy how much money parents spend.

934
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: On care baseball bat now. I mean they just released

935
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: the new ones for five hundred bucks.

936
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say three, but yeah.

937
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 2: The latest bat that came out this week. I saw

938
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: three people with yesterday five hundred bucks. You know, older

939
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: and how old are these kids unless I mean ten,

940
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: ten or younger?

941
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, my wife had the great idea.

942
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: She wanted to do what uh the with the torpedo bat?

943
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, She's like I'm gonna give I'm like

944
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: this dude ain't even hitting it in the outfield all the.

945
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: Time, Like, why are we trying to get a torpedo bat.

946
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a wood bat.

947
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: No, he did.

948
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: They got the battle with torpedoes already.

949
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: I don't think so, I don't think. I think she's

950
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: just making up in her head. She just saw it.

951
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: But the torpedo bat's a new phenomenon. Well it's been

952
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 4: around forever, but they it's just the.

953
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: First time I've seen it. Yeah, I mean that's I'm

954
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: sure there's gonna be metal one soon.

955
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting that probably right.

956
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: I'll buy last year's model though.

957
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: Well, Chris Man, I you you've got a great family,

958
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: and this would be interesting to hear this answer. But

959
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: mount Rushmore of influence, the people that have poured them

960
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: to you to help you achieve and get to this

961
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 4: person that we see right here in front of us today.

962
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: You got four Who would those four people be?

963
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Mom and Dad for sure on that one.

964
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean I would say too, okay, just completely different

965
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: sides of it. You have Dad, who was you know,

966
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: on sports and and and really the phys big sports guy,

967
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: just like I mean, never pushed it on us, but

968
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: if we did it, we had to do it. And

969
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: then it was kind of like how do we take

970
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: you to the next level. That's where the whole his

971
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: whole fitness equipment company came from. It was I want

972
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: to buy equipment for all five boys. That's going to

973
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: be you know, good equipment that's gonna last. And he

974
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: actually started an entire business because he couldn't find equipment

975
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: for us. So with that, like he was, you know,

976
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: he was working, and he was a supporter. And then

977
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: my mom was one, you know, all day, every day

978
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: taking care of us. And that's like five boys, feeding

979
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: us every meal, like not a lot of money. So

980
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: kind of just scrapped it and just sewing, sewing sweatpants

981
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: back together and socks.

982
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: Like how much did y'all break?

983
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So our house pretty much had nothing in it.

984
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 2: So we had a couch and she had a rocking

985
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: chair for the baby. And then like if you walked in,

986
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: people were like, do you guys live here? Because there

987
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: was nothing on the walls, like no pictures, nothing like

988
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: that really hung, no decorations. It was a couch and

989
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: a rocking chair. And then like those old TVs, you know,

990
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: like the big box TV. That's all we had. So

991
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: outside of that, like there was no decorations. Everything was

992
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: just a weapon if it was there or it was broken.

993
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 2: So that was that was kind of it. Our house

994
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: couldn't sell, Like she tried to sell our house after

995
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: we're done with it, and everyone was like, man, this

996
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: thing is destroyed. Everything had to be replaced.

997
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm not wild, no, no, no that like that. We definitely

998
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: have it with five boys and they're not small boys.

999
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: And like we were the neighborhood too, Like we were

1000
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: the house everyone came over to. So it wasn't just

1001
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: us five, it was like us five and then everybody

1002
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: had a friend or two or three friends. There's like

1003
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: ten people there every time came over.

1004
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: So Mom and dad, you got two more.

1005
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mom and dad, for sure. That's tough man. I mean,

1006
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: definitely had some good coaches along the way. But outside

1007
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: of that, I would put the brothers in there more

1008
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: than anyone else because it was always which brothers say,

1009
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: you know I was. I was with Rob throughout college,

1010
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: so really probably the closest, we're closest in age and

1011
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: that I was with my older brother Dan as well. So, uh,

1012
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: first two years at Maryland was with my brother Dan,

1013
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: the more responsible one. You know, that's kind of where

1014
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: I got the responsibility from. And yeah uh and then

1015
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, the party in aspect was then the second

1016
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: two years of college with my brother Rob, so having

1017
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: a good time there and really just working hard, you

1018
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: know that, and pushing each other to the next level.

1019
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of where that came from.

1020
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: Trust me. I love my Thursday nights in college too.

1021
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: They were good, man, those were good times. Fridays were tough.

1022
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Saturday I just didn't care, man, I was just throw

1023
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: your head down and try to put it under someone's chin.

1024
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: So it worked out.

1025
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, Chris. Appreciate you, man.

1026
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. This is thanks for coming

1027
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: all the way in town to see me.

1028
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: No doubt, bro. Just for you, yeah, man, just for you, dog.

1029
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: This was awesome. I appreciate it.

1030
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1031
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna probably have to go ahead and invest in

1032
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: a couple of ice.

1033
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: If you nice. Dragon Ball man, let me know.

1034
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: I'm totally going to get a couple of Dragon BALLO

1035
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: you telling you right now that.

1036
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 1: From my youngest right now. She's a big Dragon Ball

1037
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: anime kind of person.

1038
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: So it's still going like it's still like the younger

1039
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: generation still going with Dragon Ball.

1040
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: And it came out when I was in high school.

1041
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: It hit in America. It had already been out in

1042
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: Japan for years. It hit in America when I was

1043
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: in high school in the early two thousands, and you

1044
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: still have the young people, like you said.

1045
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: Right now, I was watching it like ninety eight ninety nine.

1046
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: So where do you watch it? So to answer the question,

1047
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: who licenses actually a crunchy roll? Is that also where

1048
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: they watch it? They watch it through country role.

1049
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: So my brother did that, but you it's a it's

1050
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: an app called It's slipped my mind right now, it's dude,

1051
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: it's got it. You have to actually have an app

1052
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: to watch You have to have an app to watch it.

1053
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: You can actually go back and watch all the episodes.

1054
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: You're not like playing it still on.

1055
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: No, I was a cartoon network guy when that's originally

1056
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: watched it back in the day.

1057
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think me too, one of those. Yeah.

1058
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 4: And and now then they released movies every now and then,

1059
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: like they just had a movie or two like a

1060
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: couple of years ago.

1061
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah those are big. Yeah.

1062
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: So but back to you, thank you. I appreciate it. Man,

1063
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 4: you're gonna be successful in everything you do. We could

1064
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: just tell I mean you're naturally an entrepreneur, or go

1065
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: get her. I mean you were hustling and didn't tell

1066
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: nobody for years. That's your wife's They don't post that.

1067
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: You tell nobody, just so what you been doing.

1068
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: That's it.

1069
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: That's how you know. Somebody on it's like get in

1070
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: it done, man, you know, and you're shaking your head like, yeah,

1071
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just kind.

1072
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: Of you know, just tell them the secret. Either man

1073
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: may try to come after you know.

1074
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: That's smart. I like it.

1075
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: I love it all.

1076
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on with the podcast, like room saying, man,

1077
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: you you strike me as a guy. Whatever you do,

1078
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: you will be successful. So I wish nothing but the

1079
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: best for wish nothing but the best for you, and

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing what your next adventure is.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys, man, no doubt. Man.

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Speaker 4: For all of our viewers and listeners out there, appreciate

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Speaker 4: it as always. Man, make sure you give us a

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Speaker 4: five star rating, leave a review, leave a couple of comments,

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Speaker 4: Tell Peanut what he could be doing better, because he

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Speaker 4: definitely could take that advice, and uh check us out

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Speaker 4: wherever you pick up your podcast Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and

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Speaker 4: the NFL pages YouTube channel that's no longer.

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Speaker 1: You watch the NFL YouTube channel. And when you do

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Speaker 1: leave a comment, please let us know what I'm doing wrong,

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Speaker 1: and also make a comment or two about what Roman

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Speaker 1: can do better with his T shirts or college shirts

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Speaker 1: because they are absolutely atrocious. Hey, that's Chris, i' peanut,

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Speaker 1: that's Roman. And this is the NFL Player's second x

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Speaker 1: pot as we have p