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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast, George, nor

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Speaker 1: with you. Author and award winning filmmaker Richard Martini has

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Speaker 1: written and directed a number of films. A former freelance

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Speaker 1: journalist for Variety, inc. Premier and other magazines. A graduate

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Speaker 1: of the Masters of Professional Writing Program at USC Flip

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Speaker 1: Side A Tourist Guide to the Afterlife was his debut

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Speaker 1: nonfiction book on a topic that's been haunting him since

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Speaker 1: the death of a soul mate. After a dream vision

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Speaker 1: of his visiting his friend and the great beyond, rich

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Speaker 1: went on a literary quest to find out what the

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Speaker 1: prevailing science and philosophical opinions on the afterlife might be.

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Speaker 1: He journeyed into Tibetan philosophy, made documentaries in Tibetan, India,

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Speaker 1: and eventually he was introduced to the work of the

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Speaker 1: Newton Institute, founded by the renowned author and hypnotherapist doctor

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Speaker 1: Michael Newton. Richard Martini a favorite on Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: and with a drum roll, Richard, here you are welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love being considered a favorite anywhere. George, what

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Speaker 1: a treat to hear your voice. Have you been on

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Speaker 1: the flip side lately? I have been on the flip

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Speaker 1: side lately, you know, trying to dodge COVID bullets wherever

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Speaker 1: we go. This is really hard to I just came

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Speaker 1: back from a trip to Vegas, where you know, I

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Speaker 1: call that my super spread or city, and it was just,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was amazing. What were a group of

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Speaker 1: friends and of course everybody came down with some version

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Speaker 1: of it. Anyway, I've been good. How have you been?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? But were you a witness to the ben

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Speaker 1: affleck in Jennifer Lopez wedding that they had Saturday? No

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Speaker 1: And you know, you wonder I did read that they

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Speaker 1: the the upper graded version. You actually got an Elvis

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Speaker 1: you very much. What's really crazy for me is Jennifer

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Speaker 1: works with law enforcement on missing person cases. We did

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Speaker 1: this podcast called Hacking You Afterlife. Now we've had some

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Speaker 1: amazing people show up to talk to us. And I

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Speaker 1: a whole different appreciation for him. And then plus the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's shown up in a number of our

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Speaker 1: the most recent visit was after I saw the film.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to talk about it. He wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: That was a comment that he made. But I said,

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Speaker 1: detail about your life that only your wife Priscilla would know,

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Speaker 1: How did you get involved in finding the dead? Well,

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Speaker 1: Were you particularly gifted when you were a kid? Well,

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Speaker 1: they just show up? Well, I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 1: And this has happened more than once. And so Jennifer

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Speaker 1: And that's been the basis of our books, Backstage Passed

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Speaker 1: is our latest one. And what I do is I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: And then I asked him questions about his journey. Died

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Speaker 1: It's so fascinating that it's so dramatic and exciting to

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