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Speaker 1: I this is invited my sister from my wedding because

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Speaker 1: she blew up at my fiance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't let her in either. I, twenty five female,

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Speaker 1: am getting married next fall to my fiance, twenty five male.

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Speaker 1: My parents have been divorced my whole life and are

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Speaker 1: both now remarried. My bio dad would see me every

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Speaker 1: other weekend and was not a safe adult growing up.

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Speaker 1: r slash okay story time subreddit. I also have an

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Speaker 1: older sister, thirty one female, on my biodad's side. We

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Speaker 1: have the same dad, but different moms. Growing up, A

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Speaker 1: lot of my trauma stem from watching my bio dad's

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Speaker 1: treatment of my older sister, we'll call her Michelle. When

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Speaker 1: I was twelve and Michelle was eighteen, she went off

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Speaker 1: to the military and we didn't have much of a relationship.

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Speaker 1: While she was gone, I was really bitter and upset

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Speaker 1: about her leaving me with our dad for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but just through growing up and experiencing life myself, I

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Speaker 1: realized it wasn't her job to save me and that

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Speaker 1: she had to live her life. I also understand that

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Speaker 1: she was in some pretty bad relationships while gone. At

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Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty three, Michelle moved back to

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Speaker 1: our home city and we began to build a relationship

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Speaker 1: as adults. By this time, my now fiance boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: I had been together at this point for three years.

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Speaker 1: We're living together, and she's always seen me with him

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Speaker 1: as an adult. When I told her we were discussing

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Speaker 1: getting engaged, she was so happy for me, looked at

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Speaker 1: her rings with me. It was great. She's blessed to

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Speaker 1: not have to work, and I work from home and

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Speaker 1: work at a work call center, so sometimes I have

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Speaker 1: talk on the phone for hours when I'd be alone.

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Speaker 1: The day my fiance proposed, she was like the first

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Speaker 1: person I told, and we had already had plans to

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Speaker 1: hang out that evening. When I saw her that night,

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Speaker 1: I asked her immediately to be my maid of honor,

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Speaker 1: and she accepted and we had a beautiful sister moment.

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Speaker 1: We were out at the bars. My fiance was there,

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Speaker 1: as well as another couple we're friends with and another

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Speaker 1: girl we're friends with. Everyone except Michelle is about twenty

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Speaker 1: we're friends. By about two am, all the bars in

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Speaker 1: the area that we were at were closing and we

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Speaker 1: were debating if we should go find somewhere else to

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Speaker 1: into anywhere good, and the nearest place open was kind

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Speaker 1: for the night. We ultimately decided to call it a

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Speaker 1: night and see each other the next day. It's a Friday,

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Speaker 1: until Sunday. I had already told Michelle before we met

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Speaker 1: up to hang out that I wouldn't be giving her

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Speaker 1: Uber prices, That's fine, but I still wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: me and my fiance could head home whenever. When I

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Speaker 1: Our guy friend noticed and asked about it, and my

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Speaker 1: even though I didn't want to, and she was yelling

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Speaker 1: the entire drive. Oh what about? How those people were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Also, why are you still yelling? It wasn't even

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Speaker 4: It was the other friends.

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Speaker 5: If you excuse to be terrible.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, ohp said the one thing to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but she was yelling before the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when she's upset, do you think telling her

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Speaker 1: to calm down is gonna calm her down? No?

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Speaker 6: I still don't think she should yell.

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Speaker 1: She shouldn't be. No, that's very right, And I think

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Speaker 1: you should have been like, OPI do you want to park?

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Speaker 6: I feel like op, he's just so focused on like

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Speaker 6: I want to get home. I want to get this sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent. I mean, you would have

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Speaker 1: thought he was a stranger the way she tore into him.

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Speaker 1: She did so much damage In sixteen minutes. Again, sixteen

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Speaker 1: minutes is not that far of a drive. She texted

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Speaker 4: God also, also, I hate text apologies like that. Call

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Speaker 4: me meet me in person, like why are we doing this?

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Speaker 4: Like I just yelled at you for sixteen minutes and

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Speaker 4: now I'm just gonna send you a text being.

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Speaker 1: Like what, Everything's okay? I yelled sorry through the text.

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Speaker 1: I tried to be cordial for a few months, but

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Speaker 1: by March we had a falling out as well, and

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Speaker 1: she said some pretty awful stuff about me, and then

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Speaker 1: she blocked me. Here's where I'm feeling like the a hole.

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Speaker 1: For my birthday early June, my dad took me and

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Speaker 1: my fiance to dinner and assisted my older sister be there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't make a fuss. Well. When I mentioned to

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Speaker 1: started to bring it up that a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: he calls me at six am, wanting to pray and

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Speaker 1: trying to guilt me. That's how I took it into

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Speaker 1: Michelle is a thirty year old woman who talked her

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Speaker 1: wants to discuss her attendance at our wedding. A part

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Speaker 1: of me feels like I should reach out to her

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Speaker 1: and try to be the bigger person, because I think

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Speaker 1: see her last words to me and feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: betraying myself or even considering it. But she's still my

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Speaker 1: older sister. And while some people in my life are

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Speaker 1: and this is just a natural consequence of her actions,

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Speaker 1: there are also a lot of people who are very

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Speaker 1: vocal about me needing to forgive her and how this

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Speaker 1: will just make things worse. I really can't decide what's

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Speaker 1: worse having her miss out, having her there, So am

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Speaker 1: I the a hole for not inviting my oldest sister

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Speaker 1: to my wedding. We have an update, no.

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Speaker 4: Your wedding and you get to say who comes? And

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Speaker 4: she was terrible to you and.

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Speaker 1: Your boy, yeah, your fiance and your friends. Well she

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Speaker 1: was talking to your friends, but you'd be a sneaky yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she could see all those people and be like,

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Speaker 1: so that sixteen minute try that you didn't do for

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Speaker 1: me back then, you guys all suck and you guys

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Speaker 1: be like blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Like the odds of her bringing this up at your

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Speaker 4: wedding the first time that you've seen her.

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Speaker 6: Or talk to her since that is very high.

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Speaker 1: Think you think talking to her after you disinvited her

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Speaker 1: to your wedding and she's no longer than made of

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Speaker 1: honor for your wedding. She got upset about a sixteen

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Speaker 5: I forgot she was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she got upset about a sixteen minute drive home,

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Speaker 1: not a two hour.

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Speaker 4: Drive everything, And she would be the one like planning.

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Speaker 4: Can you a lot of the stuff with you?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine her like, oh man, she's gonna be

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Speaker 1: this time, we're not inviting her to the wedding, but

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Speaker 1: I do want to continue to work on a relationship

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Speaker 1: and if things change, I would love to change my mind.

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Speaker 1: She said she understands, and she loves me and wants

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Speaker 1: me to be happy above all, She said that she'll

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Speaker 1: We had a great conversation and I'm glad that she

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Speaker 1: was able to be positive. Come a number one general rule,

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Speaker 1: if your wedding is turning into a crapstorm, Elope, it's

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Speaker 1: about the marriage, not the wedding. Ope states. It's really

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Speaker 1: one side of my family. My stepdad's family is the

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Speaker 1: family I spent the most time with and they've been lovely.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to damage my relationship with my biodad's family,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of don't want to invite any of them.

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Speaker 1: It feels so forced to me. I'm a number two,

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Speaker 1: not the a hole. Look, I know it's your big sister,

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Speaker 1: and you want to mend things, but will things truly

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Speaker 1: some half baked nothing apology, and then the entire thing

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Speaker 1: will be dropped. You and your fiance were in no

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Speaker 1: ways wrong that night, unless a lot of stuff was

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Speaker 1: left out of the story. I will just tell your

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Speaker 1: dad I am waiting for her to apologize. She's not

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Speaker 1: attending the wedding until she can see that she was

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Speaker 1: wrong and actually owns them. Until then, it's her own

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Speaker 1: choice to go no contact with me, and it is

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Speaker 1: her own choice not be any part of my wedding.

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Speaker 1: If you want to interfere, try asking her what's up

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Speaker 1: and see why she acted like that, But do not

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Speaker 1: come to me and tell me to forget it happened,

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Speaker 1: which hey, I was going to do before she doubled

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Speaker 1: in the text messages she sent me. The only way

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Speaker 1: for someone to learn that is for them to stop

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Speaker 1: being caudled, So I will wait. Codd number three. I

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Speaker 1: feel like a good rule of thumb is the thought

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Speaker 1: of something makes you physically ill, don't do it. That

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Speaker 1: would apply on any day of the week, and it

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Speaker 1: Why are you banning the dogs?

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Speaker 4: My family and I have always liked Thanksgiving. It's been

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Speaker 4: My mom places major emphasis on it being an open

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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from dictate This, and if

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Speaker 6: We have been planning Thanksgiving for weeks now.

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Speaker 6: She is the mother, it's her choice.

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Speaker 4: All week long, I have been texting my mom telling

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Speaker 4: I've been confirming plans for weeks now, and now six

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Speaker 6: We have an update. This is a doozy.

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Speaker 4: A red called this in the original post, and the

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Speaker 4: Instead of communicating with my husband and me about her concerns,

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Speaker 6: After my post.

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Speaker 4: On Friday, I contacted my sister and said, Kasis, I'm

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I love you, she said, Oh yeah, no worries. The

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Speaker 4: check on them periodically until my sister left on Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 4: My sister was only planning on being here for six hours,

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving Day we are cooking up a storm. The dogs

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Speaker 4: My sister and her husband drive up, and my dad

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Speaker 4: I think that's totally valid. No one told her that

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Speaker 4: There must be a solution we can come to. We

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Speaker 4: asking how they could do this to her. We drove

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Speaker 1: So that sounds really petty on your part.

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Speaker 1: Petty because what are we in middle school? This sounds

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Speaker 4: So she shows up, she's mad, she drives away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm assuming maybe husbands didn't also tell wives that

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Speaker 1: Probably the husband's thought that everyone communicated because it's all

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Speaker 4: Like they didn't even reach out to see what was up.

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Speaker 4: Me, How would we be able to communicate when you

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Speaker 4: two completely shut down even husband's name. Reached out to

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Speaker 4: Since you seem to think you run the parents and

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: I'm quivering in my boots and can't wait to get

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Speaker 6: So incredibly appropriate.

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Speaker 4: Let's just continue to rubsul in this wound and not

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Speaker 6: Look, we don't see eye to eye on this issue,

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Speaker 4: I realized this was spiraling into an argument that is

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Speaker 4: that could get really ugly, and what good would that do.

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Speaker 4: I have a new nephew, and I have had a

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Speaker 4: and now it has become an attack on me personally

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Speaker 4: and she never once explained to me her concern over

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Speaker 4: It was going personal, not what is needed. At five

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Speaker 4: This whole situation didn't work out well. Obviously, I don't

441
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Speaker 4: want the rest of it to not go well either.

442
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Speaker 4: I love you, and I don't want to be a

443
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Speaker 4: keyboard warrior and just text with anger, which is why

444
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Speaker 4: I said just now. I said I will speak later,

445
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 4: because for some reason, this became a fight, and that

446
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Speaker 4: isn't what it was about, nor what I want. We

447
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 4: are beyond the competitive stage in life, though I don't

448
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 4: want that fight. That's one I am unwilling to have.

449
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 4: It's not reality.

450
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Speaker 6: I love you.

451
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,440
Speaker 4: I wish you would have spoken to me, especially after

452
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Speaker 4: I reached out again. I'm sad yours Thanksgiving was spent alone.

453
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything back. I wanted to diffuse the

454
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 4: situation and not get into a personal attacking fight. I

455
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Speaker 4: want the relationship with my sister to be positive, but

456
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Speaker 4: I'm afraid that in order to do so, I will

457
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Speaker 4: have to eat pro on this one. Even though I

458
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Speaker 4: don't feel like I'm really in the wrong here. She

459
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,359
Speaker 4: did not let me know. How would I know? And

460
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,919
Speaker 4: if I do let this one lie, am I setting

461
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Speaker 4: a precedent for when communication falters again in the future,

462
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Speaker 4: that I will come with my tails between my legs

463
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Speaker 4: and apologize always. Furthermore, I didn't know she felt this

464
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Speaker 4: aggression towards me and my relationship with my parents. Sure

465
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 4: we are close, but they have gotten closer too. I

466
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Speaker 4: have believed that this sibling rivalry and competition has been outgrown.

467
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Speaker 6: He is thirty two and a new mother.

468
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Speaker 4: But if she really feels this way about me because

469
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Speaker 4: of this one instance, this one issue, because she failed

470
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Speaker 4: to communicate with me, then are all the positive things

471
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Speaker 4: I've done for her? Baby shower, arriving once a week

472
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Speaker 4: with food for her after the baby, grocery store, shopping

473
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Speaker 4: for her? Are all these kind gestures negated? Now, Reddit,

474
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't know where to go from here. If I

475
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Speaker 4: press on and fake an apology to appease my sister,

476
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I can have a genuine relationship

477
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Speaker 4: with her because if I unknowingly do something wrong, she

478
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Speaker 4: will attack my character and that hurts. You know, though

479
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Speaker 4: any advice would be helpful. How would you respond? And

480
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 4: what are reasonable expectations that I should have about my

481
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Speaker 4: sister and my relationship moving forward? Wipe my hands clean

482
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Speaker 4: of her, walk a fine line, or forgive and forget.

483
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Speaker 1: What I also got from op is that she really

484
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Speaker 1: wasn't taking any real account of like she didn't also communicate.

485
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Speaker 6: Oh yeahah, she.

486
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Speaker 1: Just pointed the finger at the sister saying, you didn't communicate.

487
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Speaker 1: She kind of did. You also kind of did, but

488
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Speaker 1: you also kind of didn't.

489
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Speaker 2: Both of you.

490
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Speaker 1: Again, that's why, so both of you are to blame

491
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: again your mom too, in this mess of no one

492
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Speaker 1: really communicating here, I I think this should be like, hey,

493
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: you didn't communicate, I didn't communicate. I apologize. I'm sorry

494
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Speaker 1: for you know, not telling you.

495
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Speaker 2: You know.

496
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Speaker 1: I want you to be there. I love you. This

497
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Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving. This should have been a happy time to

498
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Speaker 1: see my nephew, your son, and like, make this a

499
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Speaker 1: really fun time for the family, not a thing that's like,

500
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Speaker 1: now we're butting heads. It's competitive, and now we can't

501
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Speaker 1: talk anymore. And now I'm gonna be petty and you're

502
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna be petty. And who's gonna be the pettier one.

503
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Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.

504
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 4: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

505
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Speaker 5: My partner demands I play D and D without headphones

506
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Speaker 5: because it's ruining his mental health.

507
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Speaker 1: Boll you gotta have.

508
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Speaker 3: The music to like get in the mood.

509
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Speaker 5: You know, My thirty four female partner thirty four male

510
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Speaker 5: of fifteen years is blaming me for his ongoing depression

511
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Speaker 5: because I played D and D online with headphones in

512
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 5: I played D and D for years. One casual homebrew

513
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: campaign and one recent Curse of Strawed campaign. My partner

514
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 5: always said he wants lots of kids, and last year

515
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 5: our first was born. I stopped playing until I was

516
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 5: and breastfeeding anymore, then attempted to return to the homebrew

517
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 5: game one Saturday a fortnight. By the way, this comes

518
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: from gold Eye Cold and if you want to smit

519
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Speaker 5: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime,

520
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 5: separate it oooo. While I was pregnant, he suddenly demanded

521
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Speaker 5: to meet everyone I was playing with and see where.

522
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Speaker 3: We were playing.

523
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Speaker 5: When I tried to return after giving birth, he resented

524
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Speaker 5: me going to the game and would often try to

525
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Speaker 5: delay me going, and would sometimes call and interrupt the

526
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 5: game for minor issues. On the saturdays I did not play,

527
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 5: I was in charge of baby's care and bedtime while

528
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 5: he had drinks and games with his friend.

529
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we're seeing yeah, stay in double? Am I

530
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 3: wearing glass? It in double?

531
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Speaker 5: The Strawed game started after baby was born and initially

532
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 5: was played in our home, but because impossible for me

533
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 5: to concentrate on the game with the baby around, we

534
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 5: moved to playing at a different house.

535
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Speaker 3: He saw me leaving on time and would call and.

536
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 5: Interrupt the game, even if baby was with the sitter

537
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 5: with a VID. I've been playing online in a different

538
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: room with my headphones in. Usually I arranged for the

539
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 5: grandparents to have baby because otherwise I still find myself

540
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: interrupted too much to focus on the game Max five hours.

541
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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago, the game was canceled, but the group

542
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 5: still chatted. I had headphones and my partner kept trying

543
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Speaker 5: to interrupt and ask me things, which splits my focus,

544
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Speaker 5: so I was getting annoyed. Afterwards, we talked about it,

545
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Speaker 5: and he said that he doesn't like the headphones because

546
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Speaker 5: it excludes him makes him chronically depressed, and that there's

547
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Speaker 5: no point in him getting therapy for the depression. If

548
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 5: it's up, I'm going to keep doing the thing that

549
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 5: causes it, which is isolating myself and putting in headphones

550
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Speaker 5: to play D and d.

551
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Speaker 3: F You, dude, what the frick?

552
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Speaker 5: So she's not allowed to hang out with their friends

553
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 5: and have some like I think, especially because it's during

554
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Speaker 5: the VID. Having your guys separate alone time is so important.

555
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can never blame someone else for your depression

556
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: unless they're like you or something.

557
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Speaker 5: Yes, which is not what she's doing. She's playing a

558
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Speaker 5: game with her friends for five hours a week.

559
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got headphones in, Like, yeah, maybe if you

560
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: want to be included, ask like, hey, could you like

561
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: leave your headphones out? Secondly, listen to what you're doing?

562
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Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I would love to Like it sounds

563
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 5: like you guys having fun of love to here?

564
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Speaker 3: Which is it like that?

565
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, it'd be reasonable if she was like, yeah,

566
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 5: we're just kind of focused. Yeah, but it also bean

567
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: you know, probably she'd probably receive it a lot better

568
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 5: if the osband approached it that way.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so weird.

570
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Speaker 5: The following week, I tried without headphones, but it's so

571
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Speaker 5: hard for me to focus on the game, especially around

572
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 5: him and the baby that I was brought to tears

573
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 5: and we only played for two hours, but he was

574
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Speaker 5: still unhappy about it. If he was still unhappy about

575
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 5: it even after you did what he asked, I'd be like, Okay,

576
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: well I'm going back to what I was doing before.

577
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like sorry, you can deal with that unhappiness. Then

578
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: it's not my fault, he says.

579
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Speaker 5: I need to adjust my standards about how I play,

580
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 5: but I want to be able to focus and immerse

581
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 5: properly in the game. I've already changed the hours that

582
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 5: I play and tried without headphones, but it doesn't work.

583
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: At the same time, he's been increasingly concerned about it security,

584
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: so I currently can't use my laptop. That sounds fake.

585
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 5: Sounds like a fake reason why you can't use your laptop.

586
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

587
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 5: He reset my iPad and phone multiple times and wants

588
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Speaker 5: me to get a new phone number. I've also, at

589
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 5: his request, produced my work hours so I'm more available

590
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Speaker 5: for the baby. What is he doing even though I

591
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 5: had full time work and he is technically unemployed but

592
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 5: trading crypto?

593
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, babe, that's just called unemployed.

594
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: That's just unemployed.

595
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry he's making you cut back on your hours

596
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: during the VID Yeah, whow you have a baby when

597
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 5: he could be taking care of the baby.

598
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Speaker 3: It's like, Bye, where's the money gonna come from? Bye?

599
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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

600
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Speaker 5: Nothing about him is redeemable anymore, no at all.

601
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Speaker 3: He's he's trying so hard to control her in any

602
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: way that he can. Yeah. Crazy.

603
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Speaker 5: I think he feels like less than because he seemingly

604
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Speaker 5: has no one to talk to. Yeah, and also isn't working. Yeah,

605
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 5: and so he's putting all of those insecurities on her.

606
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Big Baby doesn't know how to regulate his

607
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Speaker 3: own emotion.

608
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Speaker 5: I've changed what I can change for him. But I

609
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 5: don't want to give up D and D or play

610
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Speaker 5: in a less engaged way because I enjoy it so

611
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 5: much and lean on it for my mental health. I

612
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Speaker 5: want to get him therapy. But have I been the

613
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Speaker 5: a hole?

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Speaker 3: Verdict? Not the ahole? Obviously not.

615
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Speaker 5: And there are some comments from op, but do you

616
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Speaker 5: have any comments of your own?

617
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Speaker 1: Uh?

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Nikki Wolfe says he wants to isolate her time.

619
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Speaker 3: That's absolutely true, Absolutely true, and especially during the VID,

620
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Speaker 3: it's like you need your other people. Yeah yeah. And

621
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Speaker 3: spending that much time doing these hobbies is great during

622
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Speaker 3: the vid. Yeah. Op.

623
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Speaker 5: Here, So I have the opportunity to move into a

624
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Speaker 5: house only two minutes drive from where my brother lives,

625
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Speaker 5: which I'm going to do. I can take Baby and

626
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: the pets, but it's next month. That's also when my

627
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: credit card is due for renewal and the new one

628
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: is going to be posted to my brother's house instead

629
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Speaker 5: of me. I am setting that up to move out.

630
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 5: I have tried to talk to my partner and present

631
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Speaker 5: two options, get therapy or break up. He's taking it

632
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Speaker 5: kind of weirdly first moros, but now seems to think

633
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Speaker 5: it will all blow over and will work it out

634
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 5: on our own without a therapist. That will not happen.

635
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: There have been multiple tries over the last two years.

636
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Speaker 5: I'm going to let him calm down for the weekend

637
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: because I'm hoping I can get an uninterrupted curse of

638
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Speaker 5: strawed game.

639
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Speaker 3: In after this.

640
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Speaker 5: Talking good leaving, but we'll see work knows what's happening.

641
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 5: I've also emailed my partner's psychiatrist with details.

642
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 3: Of his behavior.

643
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Speaker 5: So if you won't go to therapy, at least somebody knows.

644
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Speaker 5: I won't log in very often because of lack of opportunity,

645
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Speaker 5: But I really think I'm going to leave, leave the

646
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Speaker 5: D and D group for him. I think him whoa wait, yeah, yeah,

647
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: therapy or breakup?

648
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she's leaving him.

649
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Speaker 1: Wow.

650
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much to those that replied, I was

651
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 5: trying to think of something I hadn't tried. Some other

652
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 5: ways to play D and D and still keep happy,

653
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: but I shouldn't have been. You just start to doubt

654
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: yourself when you've been stuck in the miss for a while,

655
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: and there is an update folks two months later. But

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Speaker 5: I'm really it's it's very uh impressive that Ope, during

657
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: the VID care taking care of a baby, has come

658
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: to this decision, yeah, and has recognized the signs with

659
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 5: you know, SIMI read it's help, but also I mean

660
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: she was recognizing these signs and was like, right, this is.

661
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: Actually not okay. Yeah? Yeah, and prop are you props?

662
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: Do you? Dude? Yeah? Real? Yeah?

663
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 5: Update two months later, I, folks, just wanted to offer

664
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: you all a little update since many of you offered

665
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: the perspective on reality. To get myself and my kid

666
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: into a better place, so I gave my ex the

667
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: ultimatum that either he and or we get therapy or

668
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 5: we separate. And he chose no therapy because therapists always

669
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 5: take one person's side. Well, now there will be no

670
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 5: sides because we will be broken up. So I forced

671
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 5: the separation. He moved out six weeks ago. I've been

672
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 5: in my new home for a month and it's like

673
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: the fog has lifted. Life is basically better in every way. Wow.

674
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: The more time I spend away from him, the better

675
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: I feel. I'm back up to almost full time hours,

676
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 5: which suits me well. With the toddler, I have significantly

677
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: more freedom, and I'm going to make our home beautiful.

678
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: For the two of us.

679
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 5: Since the separation, some of the highlights of his behavior

680
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 5: include not packing anything at all with almost a month's

681
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: notice until the last four hours before he had to leave.

682
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: When he came to visit our kid at my home,

683
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: he already knew where I would be living. He wanted

684
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: me to look up the closest train station, then bus route,

685
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: and the direction for him instead of figuring that out

686
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: on the three hour trip himself and I would say, oh, sorry,

687
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: we're not together, so yeah, you got this right, I

688
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: believe here's the address, walked into my home like he

689
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: owned the place, lay on my bed to pet the cat,

690
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 5: raided my pantry, said he was going to take my

691
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: remaining tea because I don't drink it and he does.

692
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: I said, no, it's for guests, and after our child

693
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: was in bed, offered to cook everyone himself, myself and

694
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 5: my three friends serving as guardians dinner out of my

695
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: freezer and still packed kitchen. I found a journal of

696
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: his while I was packing his things. Turns out he

697
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 5: did think I was having an affair at D n D.

698
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. Yes, absolutely insane. That's why you

699
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: can hear her.

700
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 5: You can literally hear all of her responses. Yeah, and also,

701
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: how was she having an affair?

702
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: She was virtual?

703
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: Literally read the next sentence.

704
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: His reasoning was that I was always happy after a game.

705
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: Literally insane.

706
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: He's like, you're never happy when you're with me. Yeah,

707
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: your constant state is not being happy, so you must

708
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: be having an affair if you're happy. Yeah, there's no way,

709
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 3: there's no other explanation. That's crazy, dude.

710
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: He'd noticed changes in my appearance and behavior, which, for

711
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: the record, he had requested I do a few weeks. Yeah,

712
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: He's like, you, you decided to do the thing that

713
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: I asked you to do, and you wouldn't have done

714
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: that unless you were cheating.

715
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: That's wild too.

716
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 5: Also turns out his version of enough spicy sleep in

717
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: a day is three to five encounters. Uughy flat your

718
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: entire day.

719
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: I hate this man, your entire day. I hate it.

720
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: He paid a junkie down the street what for spicy

721
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: time when I was pregnant? What he seems to have

722
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: felt bad about that at various points in our conversation.

723
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: He has blamed me for trying too hard in the relationship,

724
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 5: for misinterpreting his actions and words, even direct quotes, for

725
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: not booking a therapist for him, and for not assuming

726
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 5: the best of him anymore. The kiddo is doing great,

727
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: though she hasn't actually noticed his absence at all, because

728
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: he wasn't doing anytime I was already absent, and is

729
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: having the best time in the new house. I'm also

730
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: going to turn the dining room into a D and

731
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: D room because.

732
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: I can whoo woo. Yeah, So thank you.

733
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: I know a lot of you read these things just

734
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: for entertainment, but seriously, thank you. And some realman comments

735
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: complicated disaster said problems. I think if I had spicy

736
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: sleep three to five times a day, I'd be broken

737
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: inside a week.

738
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Op. He says that.

739
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: Journal entry was from when I was pregnant too and

740
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: working full time and afflicted by morning sickness. It was

741
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: an impossible expectation when told to get checked for STDs,

742
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 5: who says, don't worry. Results came through Wednesday, all in

743
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: the clear. Figured I deserved a small bit of luck

744
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 5: on my run. Comments from the subreddit common one says, wow,

745
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: a literal god forbid a woman as hobbies situation. Literally,

746
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: him lying down on her bed in her new home

747
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: after separating makes me think he doesn't actually understand that

748
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 5: their relationship is over.

749
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Yikes. I mean, like, who's like, yeah, I'll make dinner.

750
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't feel like he yeah, or I think

751
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 5: he knows that it's over, but I think he's still

752
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 5: trying to insert himself.

753
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Into her life for sure, for sure.

754
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 5: Comment two says therapists always take one person's side, so

755
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: I won't go. That's how we know that they know

756
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: that a sane professional won't support their BS, because if

757
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: they imagined for a second that the therapist would be

758
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: on their side, they'd be more than happy to go

759
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: along to several sessions. They know they're causing a problem,

760
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: but they don't want to change their behavior or their

761
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: expectation of you, so they'll do anything they can to

762
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: continue to insist that you are causing the problem and

763
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: you need to change to suit their demands. Reply Oh,

764
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: so you already know they're gonna call you on your BS.

765
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: Huh xdy and that is the end of that story, folks. Yeah, dude, Yeah,

766
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: I'm glad you got out. I'm glad you and your

767
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: baby are out and you're playing.

768
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: D and D dude. Yeah, you're gonna have a whole score.

769
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: Cool dining room. I'm devoted to D D. That's Dan

770
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: D dining room. You can raise a little D and

771
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: D baby. Yeah, that's so sick, dude. We'd love to

772
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: see so sick. I love it. I have so much

773
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: fun on all your campaign, training the world's youth. Yeah,

774
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: my jealousy ruined my partner's bromance with his best friend.

775
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: Stop being jealous. Where do I even begin? I thirty male,

776
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: have been with my partner, Luigi twenty nine mail for

777
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: thirteen years now. We met in high school as sophomores

778
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: and juniors in twenty twelve. Even though we didn't go

779
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: to the same school, Luigi was the bad boy, always

780
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: ditching class to come to mine with his friend.

781
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: Luigi is a bad boy.

782
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah what he do?

783
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: I went to Okay, it's been amazing overall. We even

784
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: bought a house together in twenty nineteen. At twenty three

785
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: and twenty two, and couldn't be prouder. Luigi and I

786
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: are in your typical flamboyans either. We're two geeky, chunky,

787
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: lovable bros. Most people think I'm straight until I mentioned

788
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: my boyfriend, or until they really get to know me.

789
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from a Galindo one two

790
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: five on the Charlotte Dover YouTube subreddits. But if you

791
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r

792
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime subreddit. So turning thirty gave me a

793
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: different perspective about myself and what this next chapter means.

794
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: We're not married, even though we have a house because

795
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: of the FID The next year pushed things back. Now

796
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm going back to college, We're getting new jobs, new us,

797
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: and I want to fix my wrongs and propose again

798
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: to the love of my life. My wrong has to

799
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 3: do with Luigi's best friend, Elliott twenty nine mail. They've

800
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: been friends since they were five. They call each other brothers.

801
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Luigi obviously being an Elliott being straight obviously. When Luigi

802
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: and I first got together, he told Elliott, and Elliot's

803
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: reaction was anger that Luigi hadn't told him earlier. Elliott

804
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: even stopped talking to Luigi for about a year. What

805
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: my senior prom Luigi and I went together and ran

806
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: into Elliott and his girlfriend Brandy, same great as me.

807
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: Brandy and I weren't friends, but we knew each other

808
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: from the hallway. After that, Luigi and Elliott patched things up.

809
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: We never hung out as two couples, mostly because Brandy

810
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: went to university a town away, but occasionally we'd double

811
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: date when she came back. Their friendship was super close,

812
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: like Bros Bean Bros. It'd go on long drives, pick

813
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: each other up, have dinner at McDonald's or Chipole. Actually

814
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 3: liked Elliott back then. He was an amazing friend to Luigi.

815
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: The issue actually started with Brandy. She'd get annoyed that

816
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: they'd hang out so much, or that Luigi with third Wheel.

817
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: At that time, I was working swing slash afternoon shifts

818
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: with no weekends off, so I didn't see it as

819
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: a problem. Luigi is super social and hates being home.

820
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: I even played designated driver to pick them up from

821
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: bars because I wanted them safe. I truly didn't have

822
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: a problem, but Brandy did, and it's fair she voiced

823
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: her feeling. Luigi would even tell me sometimes Brandy doesn't

824
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: want me there, can you come pick me up? Dang,

825
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 3: that's awkward? Okay, Like, dude, you gotta go. You gotta go, man,

826
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: you just can't be here. Yeah. By around twenty eighteen,

827
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: Brandy and Elliott were looking for houses but struggled to

828
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: find the right one. Meanwhile, Luigi and I found ours

829
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: in four months and moved to the other side of

830
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: the city, still close enough to visit family. About a

831
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: month after we moved in, Luigi told me good news.

832
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: We got familiar neighborhoods. Elliott and Brandy bought a house

833
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: five blocks away, and Elliott apparently joked, you can't get

834
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: rid of me that easy, And at first it made

835
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: me raise an eyebrow, but I tried to be happy

836
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: for them. A few weeks later, at work, a coworker

837
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: showed me a Facebook post. Elliott made it, thanked Brandy

838
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: for sticking with him, and then had a whole paragraph

839
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: thinking Luigi saying he loves him more than anything, et cetera.

840
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Brandy got a sentence and Luigi got a whole tribute.

841
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: So I think that Elliott needs to reckon with some stuff.

842
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of feels that way, doesn't it.

843
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

844
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: I thought that was weird. Even Luigi thought it was

845
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: weird when I brought it up. The fact that coworkers

846
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: who didn't know Elliott noticed made me think what.

847
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 5: Is going on?

848
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: After that, when we'd hang out more, I started noticing

849
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: little things like them joking, don't make me pants you

850
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: and if I do, make sure your hot dog hits

851
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: my face kind of stuff.

852
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: What the thing is that I don't think this would

853
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: necessarily mean anything, like like, I think there is a

854
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 5: world where it could be just their type of humor.

855
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: It's like more you know, spicy. However, to do that

856
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: in front of your partner is.

857
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I would honestly hope, like, if

858
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: that is their humor, I would hope you would do

859
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: it in front of the part or too. Oh it's

860
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: not like, oh we only do that not around that's

861
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

862
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: Preferably I'm sure Opton wants it not at all?

863
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Well sure y yeah, but like.

864
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, at least keep it in front of everyone, right,

865
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: like trying to keep.

866
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 3: It a secret. But I feel like if it were

867
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: their humor, then uh, Luigi would be making a lot

868
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: of those jokes back. I mean, he might be with

869
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: this last like them joking this, but but I don't know, Louis.

870
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: I feel like Luigi would explain that to Opie.

871
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'd be like, that's just how we joke.

872
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know. It felt different, and I

873
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: started seeing what Brandy was seeing. I couldn't hide it.

874
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: I stopped laughing at their jokes, and I started to

875
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: dislike eliast like, dang it, Yeah, Brandy doesn't just suck. Yeah,

876
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: she's right, dang. And that is for about all of

877
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and bam, just like that,

878
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: Elliott is at our place crying. It destroyed. Brandy had

879
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: been cheating on Elliott's No, she sucks again, right right

880
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: back to it. Yeah, and that's why she was so

881
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: like skeptical because she was projectpanagnant. The message and the

882
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: text were all there on her phone. He worked remote,

883
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: so she was remote at home, and I guess had

884
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: other ideas, but messages even saying I can't decide between

885
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Elliott and you. I felt horrible for Elliott, and all

886
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: that anger turned and I felt pity and sad for him. Dang,

887
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm here thinking all this stuff and behind closed doors,

888
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: this is what was happening. Maybe it was just all

889
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: in my head, but nah, that went out the window

890
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: when he forgave her and took her out of the country.

891
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: What he forget her? I was like, let's go on

892
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: a trip, Let's leave the country. And this was as

893
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 3: a sorry to her for not being.

894
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 5: There, for not being there when she was cheating at him.

895
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: And here's the they got engaged on their trip. Oh

896
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: my god, that's a terrible idea. Those feelings of pity

897
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: immediately went to stupidity for him, because why what for?

898
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: So now I started asking myself, what is he doing?

899
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: The wedding is in twenty twenty two?

900
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my gosh.

901
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: Okay, fast forward to twenty twenty two. In the wedding, dudey,

902
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Luigi is Elliott's best man, and well whatever, I didn't

903
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: like it, But what was I supposed to do? Tell

904
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: Luigi no, that's not me, Llewell, but I made it

905
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: clear to Luigi that I didn't care to hear any

906
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 3: about Elliott's wedding planning issues and whatever, and would only

907
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: listen to luigi struggles. In the wedding, I went to

908
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: the ceremony and congratulated the seemingly happy couple, sat my

909
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: butt down and looked pretty until Luigi was ready to leave.

910
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 3: The car ride home, he tells me dot dot.

911
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: Dot oh man, So, okay, you be Luigi ready?

912
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: His mom told me something weird.

913
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 5: What did he say, Well, that she's happy that Elliott

914
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 5: is married and is happy that Luigi could be Elliott's

915
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 5: best man.

916
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: And Luigi, you always be part of the family.

917
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: This should have been your wedding with Elliott instead.

918
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: What everyone was behind it? What so Elliot's mom thinks

919
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: you should be with him? Yeah, it would have been

920
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: us too, well, got I think?

921
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Dang?

922
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't that just an old one two to the ego?

923
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: I've met this lady before and she knows that Luigi

924
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: has a boyfriend and still thinks that they should be

925
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: the ones together. So now not only am I seeing things,

926
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: but coworkers, parents, and also some friends. I didn't state

927
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: because it was a few close friends that pointed things

928
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: out and even sat down with Luigi to talk, but

929
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: always ended with everyone else trying to make something out

930
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: of nothing because he just wasn't seeing what everyone else

931
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: was just two friends of being friends. At this point,

932
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: I really didn't like Elliott. I even told Luigi, don't

933
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: mention Elliott to me unless you absolutely have to. Luigi

934
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: understood and stopped bringing him up. I wasn't hiding my dislike,

935
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: but deep down I realized why. I truly believed Elliott

936
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: could make Luigi happier than I could h In another universe,

937
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: maybe it would have been them.

938
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: Oh man, that turned my dislike into hatred.

939
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: Not because I thought Elliott was but because I thought

940
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: that he liked Luigi specifically, And maybe that's why they

941
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: stopped talking years ago. Elliott had feelings and felt hurt

942
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: when Luigi got a boyfriend.

943
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

944
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: True, they stopped talking for like a year after they

945
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: got together, and he pointed that out. You said, why

946
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: was he so upset? Oh my gosh. They eventually grew

947
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: distant again. By twenty twenty three, I went on vacation

948
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: to Mexico to see family I haven't seen in years.

949
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: Not even twelve hours after I left, Luigi texted me,

950
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: is it okay if me and Elliott hangout? And I

951
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: told him I don't care, but it's weird that you

952
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: haven't seen him in two years and now you're making

953
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: plans because I'm gone. And they hung out for dinner

954
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: and drinks and the next day too. But when I

955
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: came back, Luigi asked, Elliott to hang out again, and

956
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: Elliott blew him off back to not talking. Wow. So

957
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Elliott was really like, I hear your boyfriend's out of town.

958
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: Can I can I come? Oh man, We're flashing forward

959
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty four present day. I'm doing better. Horrible

960
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: jobs over those past couple of years and loss of

961
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: money in between, and me and Luigi got robs and

962
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: haven't recovered from it, and it's been a couple of

963
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: years now, Yi, but you know we are moving forward

964
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: and making changes in our life. Looking back, I turned

965
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: thirty and twenty twenty five, and I started reflecting and

966
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: to become ashamed of myself and my actions on one thing,

967
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: how things went down with Elliott and I. I started

968
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: getting told from Luigi, just comments of I miss a

969
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: guy friend or I miss my brother, I miss Elliott,

970
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: And this time again it was different. I still can

971
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: care less for Elliot's goofy butt, but Elliott was being

972
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: a bad friend to Luigi and that was starting to

973
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 3: piss me off more. Through that time, Luigi would reach

974
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: out to him and ask to hang out, and Luigi

975
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: would always either say ay, he was busy, yet he

976
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: would post about being at home a club or A

977
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: B sing with people, or B make the plans just

978
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: to say that he was busy yet still post about

979
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: being at the club, or see make the plans just

980
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: to ditch him.

981
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: That's so not Yeah, come on cool. I think Elliott

982
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 5: is so deeply in love with Luigi yeah, and doesn't

983
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 5: want to admit it that he's trying to put him

984
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: at arm's length because he knows that Luigia's with Ope,

985
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: and he's like, I can't even bear to be in

986
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Luigi's presence, that I just need him to hate me

987
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: to make it easier.

988
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, the only time I can be around is

989
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: if I if Op is gone and I can pretend

990
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: that they're not together. Mm hmmm, yikes. Than And it

991
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: pissed me off that Elliott was treating Luigi like this,

992
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: even though Luigi just wanted his best friend back. So

993
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: I started asking Luigi questions again and letting Luigi know

994
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: that whatever feelings towards Elliott are past me. I even

995
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: sat Luigi down and apologized to him that I let

996
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: my own jealousy and insecurities get the best of me.

997
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: The fact that I also let other people influence me

998
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: didn't mean that I still don't like Elliott really, but

999
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: more that I want to improve myself as well. I've

1000
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: been thinking about marriage with Luigi and well, as much

1001
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: as I can say that, I couldn't really move forward

1002
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: without apologizing to Elliott. Not saying he's in the party

1003
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: or whatever, but just to move forward because I'm now

1004
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: more confident in myself than I was those past years

1005
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: of anger and dislike with myself, even lost about fifty

1006
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: pounds in all those years and working on it. So

1007
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: at this point, if I do reach out and apologize

1008
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: to Elliott, it is out of my hands now, and

1009
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: whatever issues Luigi and Elliott got, they don't need any approval,

1010
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: but can all just be friends again on my part

1011
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: because my best interest is Luigi as well, and I'm

1012
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: sure we are for each other. So am I an

1013
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: a whole? If I reach out to Elliott and apologize

1014
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: to him. I'm not planning on letting Luigi know of this.

1015
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: I want it to be from me, not from Luigi

1016
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: or a heads up. I also fully don't expect Elliott

1017
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: to accept me either or forgive I just want to

1018
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: text and reach out that in my part, I'm apologizing

1019
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: for my actions and we can be literally civil for

1020
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: Luigi and their friendship. Luigi has told me it's so

1021
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: weird to grieve someone that you know is alive five

1022
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: blocks away. So what am I? And that's the end

1023
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: of that story. I don't know if I would do that. Yeah,

1024
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you would be a hole for doing that. No, No,

1025
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: don't think I don't know if it's the best move. Yeah,

1026
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: I still don't think you should. Yeah, like you wouldn't

1027
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: be the ale. No, but it's just like maybe, like

1028
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: that's not the right right boob to do. It just

1029
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: feels like you're not in the place to apologize.

1030
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you weren't really involved in this relationship.

1031
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: You actually took as like as far as step back

1032
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 5: from it as you could. So I think it would

1033
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 5: be kind of weird to receive a text message from

1034
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 5: someone who like really never hung out or talked to you.

1035
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I could really understand. I can understand wanting

1036
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: to be Yes, I just I wanted a good place, right,

1037
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: Like I want to put things out there, like ways

1038
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: I could be better. I want to be better in

1039
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: the future, and like just to have a relationship with Elliott.

1040
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: But like again, it's like I feel like Op he

1041
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: deserves an apology because like he was literally at Elliott's

1042
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: wedding with his boyfriend Luigi, and Elliott's mom came up

1043
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: and was like, i'd let you guys were gonna get

1044
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: I guess.

1045
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 5: We're gonna be up there, which is an insane thing

1046
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 5: to say at someone else's wedding.

1047
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then in front of Ope too is.

1048
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: Like, well, no, Opie wasn't there. I told Op in

1049
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: the car afterwards. Yeah, I don't even know if op

1050
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: he went to the wedding.

1051
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: He did. He did, Yeah, he just wasn't like in

1052
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: the party. I got you, got you? But dang man, Yeah,

1053
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: OPI you're being very very nice, But I think they

1054
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: deserve to put or they need to put in some

1055
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: effort into this too.

1056
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: Yeah not you, Yeah, hey John Ogi hoist here. We're

1057
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: gonna get back to this episode, but a quick three

1058
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 5: minute break of ads from a sponsor's keeping the show alive.

1059
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: My boyfriend told me to leave him alone, so I

1060
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: slept with another man.

1061
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: Well you got what you wanted.

1062
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 5: Boyfriend me twenty eight female and my boyfriend twenty eight male.

1063
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: I've been together for eight years. Last month, I brought

1064
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: up the topic of marriage. We have been together for

1065
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 5: eight years, so I'm past all the passive hints. I

1066
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: bluntly asked him if he ever thought about us getting married. Honestly,

1067
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get a grasp on his thoughts

1068
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 5: on marriage, because it had come to mind that we've

1069
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 5: never spoken about it. I remember us just briefly stating

1070
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: that we both would like to get married one day,

1071
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 5: and if we are meant to be, then we would.

1072
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: That's a really big conversation, just like you'll wake up

1073
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: and be married one day. I don't know if you

1074
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: spent to be we will little fairies will just marry

1075
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: you at the nighttime.

1076
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: Also, it's been eight mother ef in years, so I

1077
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: would like to know where this is going. By the way,

1078
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: this comes from Okay Bluebird twenty seven to forty on

1079
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,719
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1081
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 5: Okay storytime separate it. After asking him, he looks at

1082
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 5: me with a scrunched up bean mug and face and says,

1083
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: why would I marry you after you cheated on me?

1084
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: WHOA?

1085
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 4: What?

1086
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: Why are you still together? If you think that.

1087
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: I was truly confused about what the heck he was

1088
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: even talking about, because I know I never cheated, So

1089
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 5: I asked him what he was talking about. Apparently he

1090
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: was talking about the beginning of our relationship. So backstory

1091
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: to that. We had been going out for about six

1092
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: months and everything was going great. It was a Friday

1093
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 5: evening and I was off that day, so I was

1094
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 5: running errands. Suddenly my phone was blowing up with tons

1095
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 5: of Facebook notifications, calls, and texts. I mean it was

1096
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: blowing up so bad, to the point where I couldn't

1097
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: even use it because I was getting so many notifications

1098
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 5: at once. My homegirl ends up pulling up to my

1099
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: house because she has him getting a hold of me.

1100
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 5: My first thought was somebody had passed away because of

1101
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: how urgent she came through. She was asking me if

1102
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 5: I knew and I saw it because it's been going

1103
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 5: around Facebook. I told her I couldn't even open up

1104
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 5: my phone because it's going off like crazy, So no,

1105
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: I don't know what she was even talking about. He

1106
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 5: looks at me all sad and hesitated a bit, but

1107
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 5: then she just ended me her phone. Someone had posted

1108
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: my boyfriend giving oral to another man.

1109
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: What.

1110
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting layer of complexity to this story.

1111
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: So that's not O pee cheating. Hello.

1112
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: But also we don't even know if it was cheating

1113
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 5: deep fake well no was fake?

1114
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: No?

1115
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: No?

1116
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: Was this taken before the relationship because in his early

1117
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: days it was selfie pictures like he was the one

1118
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: who took them himself, and there were so many. I mean,

1119
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 5: this is awful, I think for both parties. Yeah, I

1120
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 5: shouldn't be posting that.

1121
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: Hopefully I like it.

1122
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: There's a possibility that he did cheat, which in that

1123
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 5: case he sucks to Yeah, but like never okay these

1124
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 5: pictures around. In that moment, I immediately tried calling my boyfriend,

1125
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 5: but he didn't answer. I text him that we need

1126
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: to talk. I wasn't going to break up with him

1127
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: at the moment. I just wanted to talk about the

1128
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 5: situation because I needed to know the truth. I didn't

1129
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: care if he was attracted to the same gender or

1130
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: by and I would have one hundred percent understood if

1131
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: he was still in the closet or a DL or whatever,

1132
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 5: because I know how hard it is for men to

1133
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: especially to be open about their spicy identity.

1134
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 3: I needed to know.

1135
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: If I was just to cover up if he was

1136
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: by et cetera. I didn't even bother to see who

1137
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: posted the pictures. But his response was don't.

1138
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: Talk to me. Did oh?

1139
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 5: I figured, okay, yeah, he's probably.

1140
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: In bad art or ashamed.

1141
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 5: So I told him that I would still be here

1142
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 5: when he was ready to talk, that I don't think

1143
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: differently of him, and that if he can tell me

1144
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 5: the truth, I wouldn't judge him. But he kept telling

1145
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: me to leave him alte. This went on for two days. Oh,

1146
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: peasing incredibly incredibly kind, yeah, and accepting in like wow,

1147
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: yeah for real and just like forgiving.

1148
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 3: That's maybe maybe two forgiving or patient.

1149
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: Perhaps, Yeah. I didn't hear from him. He wasn't picking

1150
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 5: up my calls, ignoring my texts. I texted him again

1151
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: saying that I'm still here for him, and he finally

1152
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: messages me back saying to leave him alone and he

1153
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 5: doesn't want to see or talk to me. I took

1154
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: it as him breaking up with me because he's been

1155
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 5: mia for a couple of days, ignoring me, and finally

1156
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: hits me back saying that I just chopped it up

1157
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 5: as a loss and moved on find you. We were

1158
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 5: only going out for six months.

1159
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: That's not nothing. That's not nothing.

1160
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if I would be like, hey, are

1161
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: we done done? Like okay, is this a breakup?

1162
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Well, my homegirls.

1163
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 5: Take me out the next day to cheer me up

1164
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 5: because I was being pestered and semi bullied online for being.

1165
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: In a relationship with him. What why?

1166
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 5: People whom I never met were calling me on Facebook

1167
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: Messenger and asking me if I knew and how did

1168
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: I not know? Basically trying to get the tea. I

1169
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 5: didn't have any to tell, and even if I did,

1170
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to ever. It didn't bother me, and

1171
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 5: it still never bothers me now. Anyways, I go out

1172
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 5: with my girls and I meet a guy. There wasn't

1173
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 5: anything special. I thought he was cute and he was

1174
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: trying to pursue me. So I got his number and

1175
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 5: the next night he took me out and we hooked up.

1176
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: We weren't looking for an exclusive status, just to one

1177
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 5: night's stand really, but literally, guess who freaking hits me

1178
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: back up? My boyfriend lol. He said he needed to

1179
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 5: talk to me and that he was sorry for basically

1180
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 5: ghosting me. We met up and he tells me the

1181
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 5: story I'm not going to share on here because I

1182
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 5: don't feel like that's relevant. I felt really bad for him,

1183
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 5: and honestly I still really liked him, so yeah, I

1184
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 5: continued to go back out with them.

1185
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 3: What's the story?

1186
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like, didn't cheat on you or not?

1187
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: Right, Like we at least need to know like if

1188
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: this was like shared consensually or something like that, like video.

1189
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, clearly not shared consensually, or oh, I you know,

1190
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: like if he knew that the videos we posted, or

1191
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: like oh, I don't think I doubt you. Yeah, he

1192
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 5: probably sent it to someone that he was, you know,

1193
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: probably the person in the photo with them, and then

1194
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 5: that person everything to Yeah, definitely like it was this

1195
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: cheating or not.

1196
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: But I do wonder too. I mean, since OP seems

1197
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 3: so nonchalant about like going on a day with another person,

1198
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: then like maybe they weren't official six months and that's why.

1199
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: The boyfriend like you, so we've been together for six months.

1200
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: I honestly think Op's a little bit the a hole. Yeah,

1201
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: why does she? Why is she just she's just saying that, like, yeah,

1202
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: I just like hooked up with someone else, like easyps

1203
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe they had some sort of weird like

1204
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: agreement because she's not like freaking out about the boyfriend.

1205
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: I just think three days he says, don't talk to me.

1206
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 5: He literally has just been like, I don't we don't

1207
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: know if he's cheating yet, so I'm going to operate

1208
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: under like we just don't know. So she doesn't know

1209
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: if he's cheated, could be something before the relationship. We

1210
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 5: have no idea, and he give the information he's freaking out, says,

1211
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk.

1212
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk. Don't talk to me. I

1213
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: don't know.

1214
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: If I would take that as a breakup and then

1215
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: go hook up with someone else, I definitely wouldn't. I

1216
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 5: would be like, I'm gonna give him a week and

1217
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 5: then be like, hey, are we done?

1218
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: What's going? Like is this it?

1219
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: And then if he says don't talk to me, I'd

1220
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: be like, Okay, well hey that's it. Yeah, that would

1221
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 5: be me personally. I did tell him about my one

1222
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: night stand. He was heard, but he said he understood.

1223
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 5: We have been together since and we never really spoke

1224
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: about it again. So fast forward today, as of now,

1225
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 5: it's been weird, like so weird. The point I can't

1226
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 5: stand to be in the same room as him. I

1227
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: resent talking to him because I feel like he's trying

1228
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 5: to find an excuse not to get married, and saying

1229
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 5: that I cheated on him gives him that excuse. Really sad,

1230
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 5: and I do feel guilty now for sleeping with another man.

1231
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: He states that I should have waited because he was going.

1232
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: To come back. You guys should break up. I don't know.

1233
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: I think he gave me my answer about the marriage part,

1234
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: but now it's like why are we even together? And

1235
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: why did he now just say that? And there is

1236
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 5: an update we don't know what happened. Still, we still

1237
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: don't know if he cheated, like she would have been,

1238
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 5: like he cheated on me?

1239
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so so it shouldn't be a problem because well.

1240
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: You did it, you cheated and then you know I

1241
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: in your eyes, she didn't didn't.

1242
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, that definitely is like why are you still together?

1243
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: Like why why is he using that as an excuse?

1244
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: Like if you were mad about that, then why are

1245
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: you still dating first of all? And like were you

1246
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: just planning on him keeping ope around? Yeah, just to

1247
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: like still date but then not get married because of that? Like, oh,

1248
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: I can't. I just can't marry her, but like I'll

1249
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: stay with her let's forever. Yeah, updates.

1250
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 5: As of today, I am officially single. We spoke this

1251
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 5: morning about what's going on and what we're gonna do.

1252
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: We decided that we should just split up.

1253
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1254
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's still gonna help pay the rent because we

1255
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 5: have five months length and honestly, that's the least he

1256
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 5: could do. He's still leaving and staying with a friend

1257
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 5: because he claims it'll help with the process. How thoughtful.

1258
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 5: I do also have to thank you guys for backing

1259
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 5: me up and giving me some a good reality check.

1260
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 5: Some of y'all were spot onto. He came to me

1261
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: this morning with his key. He sat down, and he

1262
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 5: confessed that he had been cheating on me emotionally.

1263
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: Yikes.

1264
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: Yes, I consider that a form of cheating, but you

1265
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 5: don't consider the first thing of form of cheating.

1266
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean, didn't you or not? I believe.

1267
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: He told me how he's been on Grinder and though

1268
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 5: he hasn't met up with anyone, he wants to though,

1269
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 5: and even almost met up with someone. He let me

1270
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 5: see the messages. So far, there's been exchanges of pictures,

1271
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 5: dirty talking, and envisioning relationships with them. He says he

1272
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 5: can't fight it and that it's not just a fantasy

1273
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 5: but an actual want. He wants a relationship. I mean,

1274
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 5: he cheated on you, so.

1275
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: That's yeah, and then getting mad at you for cheating

1276
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: on him like what he wants.

1277
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 5: A girlfriend and boyfriend at the same time. He's still

1278
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: attracted to women, but having both feels different in a

1279
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: good way. These are his words, not mine. He said

1280
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 5: he didn't mean to be so mean about the marriage thing,

1281
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: but yes, that was like an out for him. He

1282
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: said he couldn't bring it to himself to cheat and

1283
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 5: doesn't want to put me in the same position as before,

1284
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 5: So he's telling me now that he's unhappy and doesn't

1285
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: feel like his true self. He said he wants to

1286
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 5: explore again and that he knows I won't be open

1287
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: to it or okay with it, which he's right. I've

1288
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: had an experimenting stage myself, but obviously that's over with

1289
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: and I know for a fact I'm down for the

1290
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: D not the P and he knows that too. I said,

1291
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 5: he could have told me all of that in such

1292
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 5: a different way rather than being mean about it and

1293
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 5: saying hurtful things. I mean, we've been through almost a

1294
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 5: decade with each other, through every good and bad season.

1295
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 5: I was more upset about his response because I just

1296
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 5: cared about how I envisioned us getting married. But again,

1297
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: I do have to take accountability that I should have

1298
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Speaker 5: seen this come in right. I mean, your relationship at

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Speaker 5: six months, you maybe cheated on you, we still don't know,

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Speaker 5: and then you hooked up with someone else immediately after.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't a great beginning. I've had an epiphany, and

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Speaker 5: a lot of you guys mentioned I should be happy

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Speaker 5: this happened Loel, But yes, I realized I'm grateful that

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Speaker 5: this happened. Had I actually married him and we had

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Speaker 5: kids and he bowled this on me, my world would spin,

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Speaker 5: or me just being de Lulu and trying to change

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Speaker 5: myself to a standard. I like to think of myself

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Speaker 5: as an open minded person, but please, I never now

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Speaker 5: and never in the future, would want to share my

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Speaker 5: significant other with another person or straight I also realized

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Speaker 5: eight years went by because I was so busy with

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Speaker 5: school and work. Our relationship was good. For the most part.

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Speaker 5: We understood that we both had responsibilities other than the

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Speaker 5: ones we shared, and we just went with the flow.

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Speaker 5: But I'm graduating this spring. Now that the hard part

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Speaker 5: is over, I just wanted to move on to the

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Speaker 5: next stage of life. I'm more sad on the part

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Speaker 5: that I let eight freaking years go by, focusing on

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Speaker 5: school and work, trying to stay afloat. I recall I

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Speaker 5: was happy, though, so that's what matters, right. Maybe I

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Speaker 5: would have seen signs, or maybe I would have mentioned

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Speaker 5: marriage sooner and could have avoided years passing by. I'm sad,

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Speaker 5: but I'm okay, I'm grown, and even though it has

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Speaker 5: been eight years, I know life isn't over. Because of that,

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Speaker 5: I'm glad he's living his true self now though. And folks,

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Speaker 5: that's the end of that story.

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Speaker 3: Jeez man, Okay, sure, it's just all right, Like okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean a weird story.

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Speaker 5: Literally, I'm like, all right, I guess, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: I guess it works out kind of like.

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Speaker 5: Something worked out. I guess it kind of worked out.

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Speaker 3: Well. Anyway, that's the end of that story. Forty There

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Speaker 3: you go.