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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, here are my dates for the Hind Mighty tour.

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Speaker 2: In May, I'm coming to Saratoga Mountain Winery.

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Speaker 1: That's in California. Saratoga, guys, I'll be.

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Speaker 2: In Monterey, and I'll be in Modesto, and then on

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Speaker 2: the thirtieth of May, i will be in Vegas at

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Speaker 2: my residency. In June, i will be in Saratoga Springs,

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Speaker 2: New York, port Chester, New York. I'm coming to Boston

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Speaker 2: at the Wang Theater. I'll be in Portland, Oregon, Seattle,

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Speaker 2: and then Hyannas, Massachusetts, and then two shows in Nantucket.

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Speaker 2: In August, you can find me in Red Bank, New Jersey, Montclair,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey, and Calgary that's Canada. And September i will

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Speaker 2: be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly,

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Speaker 2: and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho,

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Speaker 2: and Spokane. And then in November I'll be in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas Babies.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there, and then in December, I am closing

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Speaker 2: out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your

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Speaker 2: tickets at Chelseahandler dot com for the High and Mighty Tour.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hi, Hi Catherine.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm talking like that.

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Speaker 4: I got to tell you congratulations for an amazing set

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Speaker 4: last night at the Roast.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun at the Roast.

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Speaker 4: You looked incredible, the boobs were booming like you just

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Speaker 4: like absolutely crushed it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: My favorite part about the Roast was that I was

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Speaker 2: so touched by the audience's protection of me.

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Speaker 1: When anybody went in on.

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Speaker 2: Me for being old or ugly or I don't think

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Speaker 2: they said ugly, but whatever they said, wore ugly or

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Speaker 2: old old. The audience wasn't getting it, wasn't into it,

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Speaker 2: and I liked. I was like, oh I had that

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Speaker 2: wasn't my audience. It was an audience and I had

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Speaker 2: never felt protected like that. And I was like, oh

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Speaker 2: I felt loved yeah, yeah, and I loved I just

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Speaker 2: loved it. I had the best time. I had the

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Speaker 2: best time preparing for it. I'll bet I had to

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Speaker 2: run around rehearse my sets. I had to get a

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Speaker 2: sprays hand, I felt like Nikki Glazer all week going

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Speaker 2: incredible getting I was like texting her, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: pulling a total Nikki. I'm like I but I liked

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Speaker 2: the preparation that went into it and it was just awesome.

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Speaker 5: So I had a great I didn't realize it was

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Speaker 5: at the forum like that.

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Speaker 1: You I know it was. It was really fun, exciting, Wow,

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Speaker 1: thank you congrats. It was really really right.

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Speaker 4: So in case you missed it, go check out the

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Speaker 4: roast of Kevin Hart on Netflix.

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Speaker 5: Should we talk about our guest today? Yes, our guest

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Speaker 5: today is Kevin Kine.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know him from Inside Amy Schumer

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Speaker 2: and Law and Order SVU. Please welcome Kevin Kine. Catherine's

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Speaker 2: obsessed with SVUS.

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Speaker 1: I watch out. I's gonna give it to you good.

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Speaker 5: My husband and I have been rewatching from the beginnings.

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Speaker 1: I meant kind of like, who is it? How can

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Speaker 1: you rewatch from the beginning? Who is that? Kind of

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Speaker 5: A long time. We're in season nine, I think right now.

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Speaker 1: But how many seasons of SVU are there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been arrested on that show several times, so

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Speaker 3: you'll see me a bunch before you get to my role.

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Speaker 1: Now you were a sit and then brought back as

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Speaker 1: a regular.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I was never a creep. So that's the

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Speaker 1: Kill Thank goodness. Okay, Kevin, I just asked, Kevin, this

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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. By the way, we've actually been

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Speaker 3: introduced a few times. But I do this thing with

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Speaker 3: somebody who I love and respect. I do you the

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Speaker 3: favor of never talking to you and wonderful because I

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Speaker 3: think I was around with you and Humor somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, because you and Humor are like writing partners.

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Speaker 2: I mean you've written lots of things together.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, producing and yeah direct each other.

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Speaker 1: And right right, so you guys have had a long relationship.

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Speaker 3: And I know like a lot of comics that you know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, great, great. Well, I was just saying to Kevin,

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't understand how this is possible.

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Speaker 2: And I understand, as like a strong independent woman, that

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Speaker 1: I get that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's silly, but it exists, unfortunately, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just wondering when were you going to get to a

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Speaker 2: time where that doesn't exist. So I did this like

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Speaker 1: To start actually asking straight men to reach out to

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Speaker 2: And I'm just going to take it on myself. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'll fucking handle this. I can get the job done.

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Speaker 2: And so I did kind of like an open casting call,

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Speaker 2: if you will, and I said, contact me if you're

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Speaker 2: really looking for a relationship, not just casual sex. You're

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Speaker 2: not on you know, you could be on the apps, whatever,

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Speaker 1: And I have a lot of eligible women in my life.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot.

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Speaker 2: Amy's now eligible too, not that I would ever fucking

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Speaker 2: set her up with anyone, but I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of eligible, wonderful women, successful, smart, beautiful, all of the

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Speaker 2: And I got about ninety percent of my dms were

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Speaker 1: I was. I just I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Believe, like, like none at all.

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Speaker 1: No, a few, you know.

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Speaker 2: A lot of older guys, which is fine. I'm working

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Speaker 2: be pretty specific, like I have a big wide net

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Speaker 2: And then we found him, you know, We found three

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Speaker 2: And I finally we you know, I have my social

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Speaker 2: his ex wife. We're like, listen, we can't get a

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Speaker 3: Do you think you were just an additional app? You think,

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Speaker 3: like maybe they have they're on like three other apps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly, but like it's there's a lack of initiative

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Speaker 1: and there's a lack of you know, you like, there's

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Speaker 2: It's almost like straight men. You know, I understand straight

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Speaker 3: I get that, and I don't want just so I

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Speaker 3: aggressive and violent with with Like when I see Elon

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Speaker 2: He's particularly disgusting. Yeah, so I'm not trying to help

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Speaker 2: those kinds of guns.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I cannot because I have no interest in these fucking losers.

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Speaker 3: But I don't you think people are gun shy.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give up on straight men, is

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Speaker 2: You're a straight guy who recognizes it. So what do

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Speaker 3: I you know, I think people aren't putting themselves out

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's uh and you're you're letting

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Speaker 3: But you know, I missed the whole app thing. I

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Speaker 1: Throw down right right, right, right right.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's really like a eye witness people

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Speaker 2: I understood, like I'm with Obviously, I'm with you and

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear about them bitching about

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Speaker 2: But I also have a feeling of like Catherine, like

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Speaker 2: There are good men out there.

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Speaker 3: There are I'm.

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Speaker 5: Dating hashtag not all men, Chelsea?

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Speaker 2: Is that a hashtag? I'll employ that I might be

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Speaker 2: dating app? They asked me this morning. My agents were like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do a fucking dating show.

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Speaker 3: I just you do want to be like Instagram?

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Speaker 1: I just matched my.

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Speaker 2: I don't want I mean, I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want people to be happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think part of the reason why men are

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Speaker 2: and I want to kind of help re educate them,

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Speaker 2: like maybe there should be an emotional IQ test or

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Speaker 2: do in this situation and then send them to like

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Speaker 2: a doggy camp for six weeks.

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Speaker 3: That would be so they can train. Yeah, I know that.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody needs training right now, Like, I think

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Speaker 3: that's really the most important. Yeah, So that's how hard

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Speaker 1: Right right, right right. I've never heard of William Asper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm interested. I like to hear about different techniques.

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Speaker 2: Is that the only kind of acting training that you've

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Speaker 3: She got hired by I don't want to say, one

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Speaker 3: And then she I think, you know what's funny is

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Speaker 3: And she was like, I'm not doing that. I just

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Speaker 1: Dominika is basically my current project.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she is on the road with me a lot.

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Speaker 2: We're going away this weekend. We have three shows this

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Speaker 2: I know how to work out, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: her thumb, you know, like I woke up and just look,

443
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 2: I saw a giant baby in my bed.

444
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, oh my god, am I mother?

445
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 3: I hope not.

446
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 2: But this weekend she's meeting me, you know, because of

447
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,959
Speaker 2: the TSA shit, it's all yeah, yeah, right, so we've

448
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,440
Speaker 2: got to really like be prepared. And so she's meeting

449
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,680
Speaker 2: me at my hotel tomorrow. We're taking a very early

450
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 2: flight to get to Portland main and I was like,

451
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,360
Speaker 2: I always have to lie to her and say it's

452
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: an hour, you know, earlier than it is.

453
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 3: She showed disay, Yeah, I feel like that was you

454
00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 3: probably were not like that when you were opening for somebody, right, never, No, No,

455
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 3: that's most people though, right, I guess.

456
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,080
Speaker 1: So I think it's a certain personality type.

457
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think you're like, there's type

458
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 2: A personality, right, But then there's not like there's not

459
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 2: a type B.

460
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: It's just everything else.

461
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 3: Well, Amy used to like kill two birds of one son,

462
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 3: like we should like come on the road and help

463
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 3: me out with the venues, and I would be in

464
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 3: charge of everybody, and then during the day we would

465
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 3: work on a script. You know, Wow, I was I

466
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 3: was like, you know, for a long time, my traveling

467
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: partner was Mark Norman because she was opening he was

468
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: opening for Amy. So it just seems like the most

469
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 3: comics are probably not type A.

470
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: I guess what I need is like I need an

471
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: outline of what the other types of personalities are. Yeah,

472
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 2: it's like type A. And then what it's like when

473
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 2: they say third world country and first world country. There's

474
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: no second world country. That's not a thing, and there's

475
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: no fourth world. It's third world or first world Like

476
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't yeah.

477
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 3: But there's there's like I feel like there's there's there's

478
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 3: Type A, which I don't think I am. I think

479
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm more go with the flow, but you have to

480
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 3: recognize the flow. But then there's like the whole myster Magoo.

481
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: I can tell you're not Type A already, yeah well right.

482
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but the whole mister Magoo, like you know

483
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 3: where you just you just have to save people from

484
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 3: stepping off a cliff every three seconds. Yeah. Yeah, that's

485
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 3: a type that is a big and they just find

486
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: out to circulate people around them that that take care

487
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,120
Speaker 3: of them.

488
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: Ah right, that's right. That is a type. So I

489
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 1: feel like there's like a lot of Catherine.

490
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 2: This is something a subject matter we should delve into further,

491
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: because I feel like there are a lot of other

492
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: types of personalities that haven't been clearly defined.

493
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

494
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 4: I feel like the Internet is starting to say that this,

495
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 4: like the mister Magoo type is type B. It's like

496
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 4: your messy friend, your type B friend on vacation is

497
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 4: the one who, like you know, books the flight to

498
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 4: the wrong place and you have to save them at

499
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 4: the last minute. Like that's kind of what the Internet

500
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 4: is saying, is type B right now?

501
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But I agree with you. I'm not Type A,

502
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 3: but I'm not that.

503
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't think I'm Type A either. Am

504
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: I Type A?

505
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 4: I don't think you're Type A, but you do like

506
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: things a certain way. But I wouldn't say you're like

507
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: anal retentive Type A.

508
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm fastidious. I don't think I very I like things

509
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: a certain way.

510
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: I also am Type A when I need to be

511
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: Type A, and then I go off the fucking rails

512
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: when I don't you have your shits again there? Yeah,

513
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm very good about time management. I'm very

514
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: good about other people's times, and I just like I

515
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: want to get this shit done and in a time

516
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 2: efficient way. I don't like to like have a writer's

517
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: meeting for six hours.

518
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: I like to have a writer's meeting for yeah and

519
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: a half hours.

520
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: Every writer's meeting is mostly about ordering lunch.

521
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

522
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 4: Well, it's like Fortune Themes start telling the story when

523
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: she came on the show about like you had your

524
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 4: first meeting with her. There were other people in the meeting,

525
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 4: and then like halfway through you knew it was a yes,

526
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 4: so you just got up and left the room, and

527
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 4: she figured that minute was.

528
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 5: A no, Like that you weren't going to hire.

529
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Her, right right? Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's just

530
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it too. I think it's great.

531
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm like what, I think the most irksome thing

532
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: about any personality type is just someone who has no

533
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: regard for other people's time.

534
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

535
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of like what being late is. Even

536
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: though many people who are late, that's not the case.

537
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: They're just bad at their own time management and it

538
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: spills over into your time. But I really do think

539
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: the number one quality should have is to be considerate

540
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: of other people.

541
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's you really kind of blow yourself

542
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 3: up otherwise, like you're gonna somebody's gonna try to take

543
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: you down. So you're from Philly originally. Yeah, in high school,

544
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: my father did the worst thing possible and he moved

545
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: me in high school to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

546
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: Yikes.

547
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And it was as bad as it sounds

548
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: a transition.

549
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: I've been in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, but I never

550
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: went to high school in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

551
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 3: It was like my cousin Vinnie with no comedy, you know.

552
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: It was like that, And it's just a lot of.

553
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 1: Neon and were you the Vinnie.

554
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't know where I was. Yeah, I feel like

555
00:22:52,480 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: probably more, but it was uh yeah. And I feel

556
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 3: like slowly, like it's been a dragon trace chasing me.

557
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: Like I feel like the whole country's turned into Myrtle Beach,

558
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: South Carolina. It's like I hear country music in a

559
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: bodega in Brooklyn. It's it's not good for me. It's

560
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: like triggering.

561
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: Is South Carolina considered country?

562
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 3: Well, they call the red.

563
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: That's what I meant. I didn't mean country.

564
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the South, the redneck rivy era. So did you

565
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 2: have a girlfriend in high school that you left when

566
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: you went to Myrtle Beach.

567
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: I mean we were just starting to make that happen,

568
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, we were starting to get well.

569
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: I was trying to hit my stride. I come from

570
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: all these like my mother, her sisters, their daughters there,

571
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: and they're all like my mother's they're wives of gangsters

572
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: and like every they are people you don't mess with.

573
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: And the most important thing for me was to keep

574
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: it all a secret because they would just destroy you.

575
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: They would just blow you up anyway. So it was

576
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: it was very it was everything was on the d

577
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: d L for me.

578
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: So it's like, so do you feel like a Philly

579
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: person though.

580
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I go back. I was going back at

581
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: the time. Every chance I get, I go. You know,

582
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: it's my that's who my family, extended family. Yeah, my

583
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: brothers moved back to South Philly and Myrtle Beach totally

584
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: does anyone you know? And we worked in like a bar.

585
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: My parents own a bar. It was like a Philly

586
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: known Philly bar and everybody it was like a Philly thing.

587
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: So that's cool. And so do you still have family

588
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: in Myrtle Beach that you have to visit? No? Never,

589
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: that's good.

590
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been back there.

591
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: And who's your team?

592
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: Oh it's all a Philly Yeah.

593
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: You don't cross over Jersey or New York teams.

594
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: No, Phillies are right, I have to I basketball is

595
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: in the family. I'm the Philadelphia Big Five fan. Villanova

596
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: is a big thing. Most of the knicks are from

597
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: Villanova and Jalen Brunson is that right? Yeah? And Jalen

598
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: Brunson are is a huge SVU fan and his father

599
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: is too. And I watched his father play at Temple

600
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: at the Polestro. Oh yeah, so there's a there's a

601
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: bomb there.

602
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people from my high school that

603
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: went to Temple University.

604
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: That was like a big school to go to from

605
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: New Jersey.

606
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

607
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: And then there's that part of New Jersey where it

608
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: meets Philly and everyone has the same accent where they panting.

609
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: I'm going down to Wildwood, New Jersey. Oh, my kid

610
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: is obsessed with would I have some family down there? Okay.

611
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: I was baptized in Wildwood, New Jersey. Oh, because my

612
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 3: parents still wouldn't give I was born in July and

613
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: baptized there in August because they would not give up

614
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: one summer in wild Wood, New Jersey. Oh yeah.

615
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. People are really really into the Jersey Shore.

616
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

617
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: And there's so many different parts of the Jersey Shore.

618
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: And there are actually really nice parts of the Jersey Shore.

619
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: Ye, I mean it.

620
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean some of them are not nice, but.

621
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: Like there's like bell Mar, There's there's some other places.

622
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: I did ever went to the Jersey Shore because I

623
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: grew up on the vineyard in the summertime Artha's Vineyards did.

624
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: My parents had a summerhouse there, so I would go there.

625
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: And then once I was like seventeen eighteen, all my

626
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: friends were going down to the Jersey Shore. I'm like,

627
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: I want to go to the Sure and my parents

628
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: are like, no, you don't.

629
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: You have no idea.

630
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: How lucky you are to be have a house of

631
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Martha's Unior, And I was like, who gives a shit

632
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: about Marthin's mir I wanted to get late, you know.

633
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I want to go meet would have.

634
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: Been like an episode of The Walking Dead for you

635
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: or something like that.

636
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally. So how did you start on SVU,

637
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Like what was your first experience on that show?

638
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: I was doing well. I'd been a guest star a

639
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 3: couple of times on the show, and the last time

640
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: I was a guest star, Marishka directed the episode and

641
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: I was like, it was like this big I had

642
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: a spin out. I thought a guy raped my wife.

643
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: I held him hostage in a bar.

644
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: It was like a big thing that guest stars is

645
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: different characters each time, obviously, which is funny that they

646
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: bring back the same actor to play different roles.

647
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was like three or four years later and

648
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: this role came up and I think she kind of

649
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: put her finger on the button for me.

650
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: And she's awesome. She's hard to say, but she's Yeah.

651
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: I mean, she's unbelievable. The amount. I just can't believe

652
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: how many seasons, Catherine are you think it was twenty six?

653
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: I think twenty seven.

654
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: It's like I'm about.

655
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: To shoot the last episode of twenty seven.

656
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: That's a great gig to have.

657
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: It's a great gig. Yeah, I you know, they they

658
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm working with Ice Tea this week, and that's like

659
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: in of itself. A day to hang with him is

660
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: like the greatest thing anyone can do.

661
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell tell me about Iced Tea. I don't know that.

662
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: I also have to interject and ask, does Coco ever

663
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 5: visit him on set?

664
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: Because it's still married those Wow, she's the best.

665
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Wow, what a successful Hollywood.

666
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Couple who.

667
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: Show to ask you?

668
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: I think she still does this Like I think she

669
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: she types his lines into the notes on his iPhone

670
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: form every day. They're like the best.

671
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: One of the most successful Hollywood couples who would be

672
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: named Cocoa and Iced Tea. Tell us what it's like

673
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: working with Ice Tea.

674
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: He's you know, it's like every like that must be fun.

675
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: The stories are gold because he's lived like nine lives

676
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: and just in this business, just on the show. Yeah,

677
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: just on the show. Yeah, and yeah, it's just he's

678
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: never I've never seen him in a bad mood.

679
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: Really.

680
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just the peace with the world and he's

681
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 3: just giving you hustling lessons all the time. You know.

682
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: It's just so uh. So I got it was fortunate

683
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: people liked our kind of and so we were together

684
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: a lot, and he he just kind of schooled me

685
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: on how to operate there.

686
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what have you learned from him?

687
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the first thing you do when you

688
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: look at a script is like see how many days off?

689
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: How many are outside in the winner? Uh and then

690
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: and usually usually the acting advice or or when you

691
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: discuss a scene in the moment, it's it's really the

692
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: single most important question is do you want to go home?

693
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate people who get to work and are only

694
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: interested in getting out of one. Yeah, yeah, you know,

695
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: like I like that.

696
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: But I had this weird thing. We were doing Life

697
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: and Beth and like I was directing like Yamanika and.

698
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Russia's at great show by the way on Hulu everybody.

699
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: And so I was playing like a and a crazy

700
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: character on that, and you know, I have these mornings

701
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 3: with someone like Cola Scolo doing a scene and then

702
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: I'd have the van and at night be with iced

703
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: tea and prostitutes like that was like be a full day.

704
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: That's a full day. That is a full day more

705
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: than one way. I like it. Okay, we give advice

706
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: to people. Okay, do we have any straight callers today?

707
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: That would be nice to straight women?

708
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: This would be my first time giving advice without any alcohol.

709
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly. We're totally unqualified for you. I'm sure

710
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: we do that.

711
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: Speaking of drinks, our one drink question today is this

712
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: is about a straight man, but not from a straight man.

713
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: Oh so nicky, says dear Chelsea.

714
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: I guess my boyfriend of nine months and I are

715
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: both forty, and I'm convinced he doesn't brush his teeth.

716
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 5: He has fine teeth.

717
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: They're straight, not white, but not yellow, sometimes not always

718
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: stinky breath. Of the times I've stayed over in all

719
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: of the nine months, he's brushed his teeth maybe two

720
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: times that I've seen. I've been in his bathroom enough

721
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: to know he hasn't changed his brush once since in

722
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: the time we've been dating and it's frayed and gross.

723
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: His toothpaste is dried out with no cap on it.

724
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't get any toothpaste out of the tube when

725
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: I tried to use it. How do you kindly help

726
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: someone with this? I truly don't want to lose him

727
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: over something so petty. He's the kindest, gentlest, nicest man

728
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: I've ever met, and I do love him. I'm having

729
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: trouble not being so icked out. Help Nikki.

730
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: It's first of all, it's this is disgusting. It's not

731
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: acceptable behavior at all. And you're having trouble like you

732
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: should have been having trouble with this from the rip,

733
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: like right as Cowboy would say, right off the rip.

734
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: This is is nine months in.

735
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: This is It's unbelievable that you've been able to control

736
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: yourself for this long.

737
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I have a serious situation about oral hygiene. I brush

738
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: my teeth.

739
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes

740
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: and brush my teeth if I don't like the taste

741
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: in my mouth. I have a tongue scraper, toothbrush, and

742
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: dental floss. I floss probably three times. I know everybody

743
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: doesn't do that, but no, I don't have that, but

744
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: I have a tongue scraper.

745
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Because my dentist told me about it.

746
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: I was like, I want all the tools that are

747
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: available to me having a clean, fresh breath and a

748
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: clean mouth, because that is very important. He needs an

749
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: education in dental hygiene.

750
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: You have to get him crust white stripes first of all,

751
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: and you have to and you have to you have

752
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: to literally sit down with him.

753
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a soft way to say this,

754
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: and I really frankly don't give a ship because he's

755
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: already crossed like the rubicon in my eyes.

756
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: You have to sit.

757
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Down with him and say, these are the things that

758
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: are necessary. I really care about you, and your hygiene

759
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: is an ick, Like you have to be brushing your

760
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: teeth three times a day in the morning, when you

761
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: get home from work and before you go to bed.

762
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Those are the new rules. Yeah, and there's no easement

763
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: into this.

764
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: This is this is this is like a sledgehammer situation

765
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: like this is not. This is not I can think

766
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: of so many deeper things that you would think on

767
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: paper that you could soft pedal around.

768
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: And this is really quite amazing that someone could go

769
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: through nine months without saying anything. I mean something might

770
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: be wrong with you. Also for you to be tolerant

771
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: of this.

772
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: Even go brush our teeth right now before you go

773
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: to bed, Like, let's go brush our teeth together.

774
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: And I've also been through this with guys, Like I've

775
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: had guys in bed who want to wake up and

776
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: fool around, and I'm like, no, no, you, I get

777
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: up and I brush my teeth. If that's not a

778
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: big enough queue for them, I tell them, do not

779
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: come near me in.

780
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: The morning until you have brushed your teeth.

781
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. I don't have time

782
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: for that. Like, you know, I'm a hot pie's of

783
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: property in my mind.

784
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: My my wife's the same way.

785
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: She's very Yeah, and dental and flossing is very important too.

786
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: It's also important for like long term oral hygiene, like

787
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: medically speaking, so all of these things. Don't feel guilty

788
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: about telling a man he's just he's like uneducated and

789
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: he just needs to be told.

790
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, if this is what you've discovered

791
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: in nine months, you may be missing a lot.

792
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like what else is he not doing? I knew

793
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: a guy wants not when I date it. That said,

794
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: the only time my hands get washed is in the shower, Like,

795
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: what else is he not doing that?

796
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: You're just not picking up on.

797
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: My on my way, on my way here. I took

798
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: the subway and I had lines to help you brush

799
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: your teeth. After that, I used hand sanitized everything. But

800
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: I the second I went down the staircase, I put

801
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: my hand on the railing and my wife just screamed railing.

802
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: So I can't imagine getting away with this for nine months.

803
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: No, this is no.

804
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: No, I can't let imagine tolerating it for nine months. Women,

805
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: you need to speak up early and QUI, okay, those

806
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: are the rules early, quick, because I think men are

807
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: pretty trainable, especially when they're into you.

808
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: You know they they are.

809
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just even to make their life more peaceful.

810
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So you can do it in a nice,

811
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: caring way and be gentle about it. Obviously you care

812
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: about this person, but you need to address it immediately,

813
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: and you need to make it a three pronged effort.

814
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: The tongue scraper, the toothbrush, brushing your tooth.

815
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, if he's not even brushing his teeth,

816
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: ye start with the brushing those.

817
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: Let's get up to like twice a day.

818
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Twice a day.

819
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: But if you give him three times a day, then

820
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: maybe he can start with once or twice a day,

821
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Maybe make the expectations

822
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: high so that he can meet you somewhere in the middle,

823
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: and then also talk about make it so overwhelming that

824
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: he has to cooperate in some way immediately.

825
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: All right, Well, our next question comes from Simone and

826
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: she's calling in my.

827
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Sister, Simone, it is it is.

828
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: You guess correctly, so she says, I quit my stable

829
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 4: teacher job to become a tarot reader, but my husband

830
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: isn't on board. So Simone says, Dear Chelsea, I recently

831
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: quit my job because I couldn't take the super toxic environment.

832
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: And well, my passion's lie elsewhere. I'm a mama of

833
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: two two years and six, and I'm a tarot reader

834
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: and astrologer. For the past eight years, I've been trying

835
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: to build a successful business, and sometimes I feel like

836
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: my husband is holding me back. He's always been really

837
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 4: supportive about my business, but he's the kind who likes

838
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: to know how much money we're going to have each month.

839
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: And even though he always says I totally support you,

840
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: he is always encouraging me to get backup job. I

841
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: know he means well, and I wouldn't want my kids

842
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: to go without anything they need, But I feel like

843
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: I haven't ever been able to become successful because he

844
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: just doesn't really think I can make enough money from

845
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: my business. Of course, it's not only his fault. I

846
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: have my own insecurities that hold me back. What should

847
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 4: I say or do to make it clear? I hate

848
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 4: corporate jobs and don't want to go back to one,

849
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: and that my Terot business is my main priority.

850
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: Simone, Hi, Simone, Hi, Hey, Hi, this is our special guest,

851
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Kane is here with us today.

852
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: Hi.

853
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 7: Hi, Kevin.

854
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so well, first of all, you said something in

855
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: that like the seconds the last sentence, which was what's

856
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: holding you back is your husband's disbelief in you or not,

857
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: you know, not believing in you. That's a cracker shit like,

858
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: that's not what's holding you back. And you can't let

859
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: your husband's non belief in what you're doing hold you back.

860
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous.

861
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: If this is important to you, do you make any

862
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: money from doing this?

863
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

864
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 6: I make a couple hundred each month.

865
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that doesn't sound like enough, is it? No, it's

866
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: not enough. Okay. How much would you need to make

867
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: a month for this be successful? Probably a couple thousand, okay?

868
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: And do you think that you can build your business

869
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: up to making a couple of times? Because listen, I'm

870
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 2: into all that kind of shit. Are you into tarot

871
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: parts or something like that? Most straight men are not

872
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: into that, you know. Okay, So I understand why you're.

873
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: She reads them?

874
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh she does.

875
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: She's a tarot card reader like this girl. Okay, great,

876
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: great work, Catherine, great work. And does your wife do

877
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: it professionally or just no.

878
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: She's an actress, but that she does it for friends

879
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: and family, and that's cool.

880
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know how you like what building a

881
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: business like that looks like. Do you feel like I

882
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: feel like, first of all, you're lacking belief in yourself,

883
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: Like if you're going to do this and go full throttle,

884
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: I think you need to give yourself like a time

885
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: frame in order to meet your financial goals and say like, Okay,

886
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to give myself six months and if I'm

887
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: not making two or three thousand, like you tell your

888
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: husband to shut up about his feedback, you're not interested

889
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: You're going to take six months if you can afford

890
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: to do that, and see if you can make a

891
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: business out of this where you do make a couple

892
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: of thousand dollars a month and where you're making a

893
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: real contribution.

894
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Doesn't that kind of sound reasonable?

895
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? I you know, we were talking about William Esper

896
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: and he used to do an exercise with us, okay,

897
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: and it would make you visualize doing something else other

898
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: than acting for a living. And he would ask, like

899
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: to be very specific, how much can you make and

900
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: what would you buy with that money? And where would

901
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: you live and what would you do and all that stuff,

902
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: And anyone who had a very clear answer he would

903
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: invite to the door and says, this business is going

904
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: to make you quit. You're going to quit anyway. So

905
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: if you already see yourself not doing this, that's what

906
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: life's going to bring to you. So I would just

907
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: say to yourself, like, like, do you want it? That about?

908
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: Is that? Is this the most? Is this your passion?

909
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: This is If it's something you can't quit, then it's

910
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: then it's really not something. Then we're not even talking

911
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: about that. So it's just really just about focusing on

912
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: I'll do anything to make this happen. You know, So

913
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: it seems like you're making what a couple hundred bucks

914
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: a month, You're not doing taro all the time right now?

915
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 6: Right Well, I am putting in full time hours into

916
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 6: my business. The issue comes in that, like I have

917
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 6: a hard time asking people for money.

918
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have so many people.

919
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 6: Like clients, and I do a ton of ratings for free,

920
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 6: and well, I think that's where my issue is.

921
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: And I think I.

922
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: Think that's where your issue is too. You can't do

923
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: it free. If you want to make a living, you.

924
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: Need to pick up the book.

925
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: You are a bad asset making money, and it's gonna

926
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: outline for you how you have those conversations with people,

927
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: especially people you've not been charging that you need to

928
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: start charging, because when you're doing something like taro or

929
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: let's say massage or reiki or something like that, there

930
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: is an exchange of energy there and in order to

931
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: be giving out.

932
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 5: You need to be getting something back.

933
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: And if you want to make this your business, then

934
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 4: you have to treat it like a business. That's a

935
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: good way to get your husband to take it seriously

936
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: as well.

937
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, said Catherine, I can.

938
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: Give you, if you're if you know that this is

939
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: this is you, this is who you are. It's almost

940
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: like that exercise I was talking about. He was just

941
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 3: really trying to identify the psychos and that will never

942
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: do anything else. You know, then that's not really a question.

943
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: So you can kind of give yourself a break, yeah,

944
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: and let yourself figure it out. And if you don't

945
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: have it figured out today, it doesn't mean you're never

946
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: going to figure it out.

947
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: Get on TikTok because I see people coming through my

948
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: feed all the time that are doing taro, that are

949
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: doing like all kinds of different stuff like that, they're

950
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: doing lives, They're getting new clients from that. So like,

951
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: I think that's like a good place to be spending

952
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: some time and be consistent, like every single day post

953
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: a little bit of something.

954
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: There's a couple of issues you seem like what you

955
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: said is you're having trouble charging people. Hey, you have

956
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: to send out like a like a wide email to

957
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: all of the people that you've serviced and say, hey,

958
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: I just wanted to let everyone know I'm starting this.

959
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm starting to do taro as a business. I've quit

960
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: my job.

961
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: You know, whoever knows already. It doesn't matter. You're just

962
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: making an official B business email. Consider this your first

963
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: order of operations. Okay, you're sending out a mass email

964
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: saying I've enjoyed my time with all of you so much.

965
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: You know you can blind.

966
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Copy everybody, so not everybody's on the email obviously, and say,

967
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: but due to popular demand, this is really taking off

968
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: and I have to start charging.

969
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give all of my existing clients a.

970
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Special rate that they all have access to so they

971
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, I might have to start paying, but

972
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: at least I'm getting a discounted rate from your new

973
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: clients and your new clientele, and just put that all

974
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: in writing. And the people who don't want to come

975
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: back because they have to pay, great, that's fine.

976
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: You don't have time for that shit anyway. But you

977
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: have to get like some balls for this.

978
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: If you want to be a business woman, you need

979
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: to act like a businesswoman. You need to buy the

980
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: book that Catherine mentioned. And once your husband sees that

981
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: this is operating like a business, guess what, he's going

982
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: to be fucking supportive when you're earning money.

983
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're so right.

984
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Are you ready? To do this. I'm going to do it.

985
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: Yes, formulate that email and send us a copy. I

986
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: want to make sure I get a copy of that.

987
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and.

988
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: Send me your race. Get I'll send out some referrals.

989
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, perfect, perfect, Okay, thank you.

990
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you guys are so kind.

991
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, bye some mom, good luck with your

992
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: business and act like a business woman.

993
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 7: Thank you.

994
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so Claire says Dear Chelsea. My husband and I

995
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: are child free by choice and have been together for

996
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: over ten years. We have several nieces and nephews on

997
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: both sides. One of these nephews from my sister in law,

998
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: is turning eighteen next month. He is proclaimed to not

999
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: want to do anything special to celebrate, but his helicopter

1000
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: mom has planned something regardless. My husband and I are,

1001
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: of course, being roped into these plans. The first part

1002
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: consists of an escape room shoot me on a weekend

1003
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: and will cost one hundred dollars each for my husband

1004
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: and I to join. The second part consists of a

1005
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: birthday dinner out to a restaurant that I don't particularly

1006
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 4: care for. The problem is it's on a completely separate

1007
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: day than the escape room and during the week. My

1008
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: sister in law insists on doing this dinner out on

1009
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 4: a fucking Monday because that's the day of his actual birthday.

1010
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: So now I'm paying two hundred dollars plus and we

1011
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: haven't even factored in his gift yet to celebrate a

1012
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: teenager who could give two shits about all the celebrating

1013
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: on his behalf. My husband thinks him crazy and that

1014
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: I hate his family, but I think this is ridiculous.

1015
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: The last thing I want to do after working all

1016
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: day is fight traffic to a shitty restaurant when my

1017
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: own food and my three fur babies are at home

1018
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: waiting for me. Furthermore, I love my niece and nephews,

1019
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 4: but don't want to spend that much money on a

1020
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: child that isn't mine for a fucking birthday.

1021
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: One of my dogs, sure, but a.

1022
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: Kid, no thanks. Why are all these kids so fucking

1023
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: spoiled nowadays? Am I being selfish and a horrible aunt

1024
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: who should shut up and just go along with it?

1025
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: Or should I tell my husband I'm skipping the dinner

1026
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: and to hell with it?

1027
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Claire?

1028
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 7: Hi, Hi, Claire, Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for

1029
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 7: having me.

1030
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: I don't think you're being selfish. I think you need

1031
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: to create some boundaries. It sounds fucking stupid. You should

1032
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: pick one thing just to be like a good sport.

1033
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: You should. I had this conversation with one of my

1034
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: friends yesterday.

1035
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: He's like, I just told my partner I'm not coming

1036
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: to any more family events because his partner's mom treated

1037
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: him like garbage, and his whole family treated him like garbage.

1038
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: So he had more of an excuse. But he did

1039
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: create a boundary and it's not an issue anymore. It's

1040
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: become a non issue. But when you are in a partnership,

1041
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: you're married, it's a little bit different. These two would

1042
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: just live together, they're not married. I would say that

1043
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: you should probably go to one of the events, whichever

1044
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: one you hate the least. For me, an escape room

1045
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: sounds like an absolute fucking nightmare. So I would choose

1046
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: the dinner, even though it's on a Monday, because that

1047
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: is his birthday. So then you were there for his

1048
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: birthday celebration. That's kind of all you and you can

1049
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: be very honest. I'm not going to an escape room

1050
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: because I'm an adult. I'm not interested in this at all,

1051
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: and I'm only available to celebrate his birthday on his birthday,

1052
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: so I'll be at the dinner happily.

1053
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's all you have to say.

1054
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: And you tell that to your husband, I'm not doing that.

1055
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1056
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: You can go, but there's no requirement that I have

1057
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: to go to an escape room for my eighteen year

1058
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: old nephew's birthday, who's not even interested in having a birthday.

1059
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: Leave the money out of it. Don't even mention, right,

1060
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: just make it about your priorities.

1061
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

1062
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: It's also I just think it's like.

1063
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 4: Weird to have the escape room be a family thing.

1064
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: That's like the thing you send him and his friends

1065
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: to do. Yeah, you know, like that's a teenager thing totally.

1066
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 8: And for a further context, we've gone and done this

1067
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 8: before together too. This isn't our first family escape room before,

1068
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 8: so I was kind of surprised to hear that on

1069
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 8: the docket.

1070
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: And how did that go? How did the other ones go?

1071
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 8: Oh, this was like several years ago, and it was fine, Like,

1072
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 8: you know, I think that was the first time I'd

1073
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 8: ever done it, So I was like, sure, I'm down

1074
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 8: for it, why not? And it was fine. It wasn't

1075
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 8: anything that I want to repeat, but like for the

1076
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 8: one time, like that was totally fine.

1077
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: Is he going to college?

1078
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 5: He wants to go.

1079
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 7: Into some kind of trade probably yeah, so.

1080
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, well I think just tell yourself just in

1081
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: your mind, this is a farewell dinner because he's going

1082
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: to be done with all you people after this. He's

1083
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: not he's not coming home.

1084
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, that's but right.

1085
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 4: One thing you could also do is like, if you

1086
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 4: really aren't down to go to either one of these,

1087
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: you could be like, you know what, we want to

1088
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: do our own thing to celebrate him, and like take

1089
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: him out to dinner somewhere where you actually like, or

1090
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: go do something fin and like that's his gift, Like

1091
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: it's an activity that you guys would like to do together.

1092
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 5: That could be an alternate plan.

1093
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 7: Or something even that he is interested sounds annoying.

1094
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: But also the other thing is listen, the fact that

1095
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: you had already experienced in this escape room is perfect.

1096
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: You've done that.

1097
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: You don't like it, you don't want to be in

1098
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: that situation. You don't have to go, like the dinner

1099
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: is fine, just do that, and this is.

1100
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Your farewell thing. This is his eighteenth birthday.

1101
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Be a good team player, but that's the extent of it,

1102
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: and be very firm about that with your husband and

1103
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: with your sister in.

1104
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 8: Law for sure, because yeah, both is not going to happen.

1105
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 8: Got it, got it?

1106
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Yes? Thank you.

1107
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: How many eighteen year olds are going to escape rooms?

1108
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1109
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: I feel like escape rooms are making a comeback because

1110
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 2: I've heard that a couple times now, Like.

1111
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: It's a very seventeen eighteen year old. How old is

1112
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: your kid? Eight eight?

1113
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so yours is a little young for that, I think.

1114
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: But like adults, weird adults. I don't like when adults like.

1115
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Shit like this, you know what I mean. I don't

1116
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. There's also like, like.

1117
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: Paintballing is the thing that comes before an escape room

1118
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: that age bracket is paintballing, Like fourteen to sixteen or

1119
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: thirteen to sixteen is paintballing. Sometimes even younger I also

1120
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: in a very annoying activity.

1121
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm not interested.

1122
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: And then there's the adult version of all of these things,

1123
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: which is pickleball is and Majong Now is Majong is

1124
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: the new hole?

1125
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: Really?

1126
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Majong is the new pickaball. Okay, everyone's talking about Majong.

1127
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: I've had like three women in my life that are

1128
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: in their thirties asked me to come to play Majong,

1129
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: and I've had to block them, all three of them

1130
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 2: from contacting me again. I mean, the idea that people

1131
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: don't know how I feel about those things when I'm

1132
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: so out there about my opinions and feelings, makes me

1133
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: feel like you're not listening.

1134
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: No, or they're just trying to insult you.

1135
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Rile me up, possibly or insult me.

1136
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: Our last email here comes from Jane and she says

1137
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: you're Chelsea. In September, my friend's at a birthday party

1138
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: and I met my now current boyfriend. It had been

1139
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: two years since I'd had any romantic interest in anyone,

1140
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: and I left the party feeling surprised.

1141
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: That I had a crush. Oh, it's always surprising.

1142
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, my friend who hosted the party knew I was

1143
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: into him from the jump and confirmed he had also

1144
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 4: asked about me.

1145
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 5: It felt like kismet. However, I was not going to chase.

1146
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: Any man, so I waited and he finally reached out

1147
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 4: via Instagram. We're dating now and he's everything I'm looking

1148
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: for when it comes to intelligence career. The way he

1149
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 4: respects women, asks for consent, even our first kiss. I'd

1150
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: like to kiss you if that's okay. It was so sweet, Chelsea.

1151
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?

1152
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like, yeah, you do? Yeah? What you had

1153
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: with that?

1154
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: I feel like you've said before, like, ick, don't ask me,

1155
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: just do it?

1156
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. I think it's important.

1157
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: I think, especially in the time we're living in tap.

1158
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Out because I work on this view, I can't make

1159
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: any conceptions.

1160
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: I think it's cute to say, can I kiss you? Oh?

1161
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: Okay, great, great, So she continues and says, So. I

1162
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: found out recently he had hit up my other good

1163
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: friend from the party before any contact with me. At

1164
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: the time, I shrugged it off and was excited to

1165
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: hear from him. When he did finally reach out. I

1166
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: assumed his messaging with this other friend was neutral and

1167
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: he's just a kind guy.

1168
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 5: Well ask you me.

1169
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: On Valentine's Day, my dumb ass decided to bring it

1170
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: up for clarification. He said he was interested in her

1171
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: and had DMed her first, but she didn't respond. They're

1172
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 4: a good match on paper, the same age. I'm seven

1173
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 4: years older and they have similar interests. Now I can't

1174
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: stop thinking about him checking out both our social medias

1175
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: after meeting us and going for her first.

1176
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 5: I've been divorced.

1177
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm a cozy homebody but still love socializing, and I

1178
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: was totally fine being a celibate pet owner for the

1179
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: rest of my life.

1180
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 5: But it just feels icky.

1181
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: I know nobody did anything wrong, everyone was single and transparent,

1182
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: but I don't if I can handle knowing he tried

1183
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: for my younger, cooler friend first, even though it isn't

1184
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: that sloppy?

1185
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Am I okay?

1186
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 5: Being second?

1187
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Jane? What do you think about that? Kevin?

1188
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: I would have to know, like, what's the connection? Like,

1189
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 3: now does it? How much does it matter?

1190
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: I also don't think missed opportunities are worth being like

1191
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: upset over or like the fact that he reached out

1192
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: to that girl. Nothing happened there, so it doesn't matter.

1193
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: Like what happened was that you guys connected and you're dating. Yeah,

1194
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: to focus on that, Like, I just don't think it's

1195
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: worthwhile to constantly or to be looking in the rear.

1196
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: View mirror about what ifs. Yeah, it didn't happen, so

1197
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: he was interested.

1198
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: He's now with you if you want to reassure that

1199
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: you have a commitment with him or whatever, that he's

1200
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: he's not actively pursuing other people or this woman, or

1201
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: if she were interested in did DM in back?

1202
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: Would he be interested in seeing her? Like?

1203
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: If that's all in the past, then you're fine. Like,

1204
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: but I also just think it's really like a waste

1205
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: of all of our time to constantly be saying, well,

1206
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: you know he didn't like me more first, who gives

1207
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: a shit?

1208
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: You're together now and you like each other. Yeah.

1209
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: And also women get women can become obsessed with this

1210
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and I feel like it's a very

1211
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: bad use of our time. Like if somebody's not with like,

1212
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: you can't control the outcome of things.

1213
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: And if somebody's not with you, uh, Like.

1214
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: I dated a guy who we met at this thing

1215
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: and he ended up hooking up with one of the

1216
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 2: girls where we met after he and I had met,

1217
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: but wasn't serious, and.

1218
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Then we started seeing each other and became more serious.

1219
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I was just like, yeah, whatever, Like you're.

1220
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 5: A little different about that stuff though, child.

1221
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: But I think that's the right attitude, because what are

1222
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: you going to do You're not going to control somebody anyway.

1223
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: So as long as you get a good temperature on

1224
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: whether this person is honest and like forthcoming, and you

1225
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: can say, okay, we're in something now, right, We're solid?

1226
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Are you looking? Are you actively seeking other people? Like,

1227
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: just let me know, no judgment.

1228
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: I'll just make my own decision based on the truth

1229
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: of the situation. I mean, men sometimes have a hard

1230
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: time being truthful. But but they're also like, he already

1231
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: was truthful that he reached out to her when she

1232
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: asked him.

1233
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: But I feel like men could just be just stood

1234
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: up dumb in the opening situation. This is right, so

1235
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: they maybe if some obvious flair went off in one direction,

1236
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 3: you know, the attension was there and was letting something

1237
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: else developed. I think guys don't definitely don't get it

1238
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: right off the bat. They have to process a lot longer.

1239
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point, Kevin. Actually, men

1240
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: are fucking stupid, you.

1241
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. And you have to remember this

1242
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: all the time because no matter.

1243
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: How great someone is in the beginning, we all we

1244
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: always find and this goes for men and women. You

1245
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: do find out that everybody's kind of like a human being.

1246
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: And then and men in particular, straight men in particular

1247
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: don't really know their way around situations like this, and

1248
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 2: they kind of act impulsively sometimes, just the way women

1249
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: can do. But men, for some reason, it just seems

1250
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: a little bit less sensitive. It can come across as

1251
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: as like insensitive. Yes, yeah, yeah, And so you kind

1252
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: of have to give them a little bit of of latitude.

1253
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: Not too much latitude, don't get me wrong, like you

1254
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: have to call people out on their ship. But like

1255
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: he was honest about dming her and that he didn't

1256
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: hear back from her. That's the there you go. That's

1257
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: somebody telling you the truth. So that's what I would

1258
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: say to that.

1259
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: All right, Well that's a luke up for today.

1260
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Kevin, this has been great. I'm very happy

1261
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: to meet you.

1262
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 3: It seemed like a really.

1263
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Fun, normal, normal, normal man. I appreciate you being on here.

1264
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Do you want to promote anything besides sbu.

1265
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're rounding into the end of the season.

1266
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1267
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: You can watch tonight on NBC, or you can watch

1268
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow on Peacock Peacock, and you can also see Kevin

1269
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: and all of his other work. He was on Inside,

1270
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: Amy Schumer, Blue Bloods, The Irishman and Snatched and.

1271
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Law and Order. So there you go.

1272
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: Just go off and have a Kevin kill see me with.

1273
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, of course Life and Beth. That's on Hulu. Everybody,

1274
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin, Thank you.

1275
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: If you want advice from Chelsea, right into Dear Chelsea

1276
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a production

1277
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,440
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1278
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,080
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1279
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 4: is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert executive producer Katherine Law.

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00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:27,960
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