1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys, This is Nick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Com and the official Dallas Cowboys apt. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Now Here are Bill Jones, Hecmaharrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the tash Mahall 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 4: of Football. We are here in the SWBC Mortgage studios 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: at the Star in Frisco, home of your Dallas Cowboys. 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 5: You are now rocking with the best. 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm Heck Maharrison, and across from me is a Super 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: Bowl champion in Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola. This is 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: Mick Shots Mix Shots. We're gonna do this like we 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: always do about this time, fellows. We're gonna start off 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: by checking your mentals, making sure everybody's good before we 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: get started with any football talk. Mickey, how are you today, sir? 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm just grateful the Cowboys don't have to play a 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: team from New York after seeing what happened to the 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Stars and the Mavericks the last two nights. 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 6: Man been blown out by New Yorkers. Yeah, yeah, yawn 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 6: out by New Yorkers. 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: No, no, no, you didn't see the game last night, 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: did you? 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 7: Oh? 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 5: I saw man he on. 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 4: The butt on the way by a classic blow by 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: and you call a fi you robbed him. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 5: Hey, you should have heard me last night. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: I was going you have heard me the night before 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: when the same happened to the Stars tied the game 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: with point one seconds left and called goalie interference when 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: he got cross check from behind into the goalie. No 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: go was they ruled a goal on the ice. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: That was That was extremely the more. 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: East coast bias East coast bias jets that they did 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: trickling down through Yeah, several. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Other Glad they're playing Philly is not quite New York. 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: How are you today, sir? 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 6: I am feeling wonderful. Every day for me so far 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 6: has been amazing. And I'm not gonna take any of 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 6: it for granted. 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: Hey man, it's raining to day, so it kept you 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: off the golf course. So if that's when he. 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 6: Got just play golf every day, then you do it. 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: You are really mistaked. 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: Look at you. 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 6: I said that your hands automatically locked together and take 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: lessons and. 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: Nobody asked. 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: But I'm good, bless Everything is great. In my world, 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: getting the opportunity to sit in the big chair. How 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: do you feel, man, You never told me howel I'm 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: gonna break it in. It's already broke because I say it, 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 4: and it ain't gonna be the same again. 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 5: Comes in. 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 6: He never really says oh, he does subconsciously. Subconsciously, he 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 6: won't anything. He just won't say it. He just won't 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 6: say it. 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: So thank you for finally writing in black ink by 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: the way, you like that, I do. 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: I do. Thank you. 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was blue and then when I grabbed it. 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: You know, when you're writing and read it's it's alarming. 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: It's alarming. It triggers, triggers, It shows you there's something important. 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: It's mentally triggering. For me. 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: It's one of my It's one of my things man, 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: that I hold on to. And I see people writeing red, 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, why does he keep doing that? 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: And they stop doing I'm like, with autograph sessions, you 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 6: don't want to write in anything to me, silver, blue 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 6: or black. 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: You don't want green, you don't want red. 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: You don't want your teachers correct things and red. 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's where traumatiz from. I am traumatized. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: That comes from So let's go to the book of 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: balling man, tell us about what you got from e reflues. 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: What's going on? Oh, he kept it close to the vest. 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Yes he did. He Uh, he said things that we 78 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: could have said, right. He said, Uh, quinnin is makes 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: a huge benefit to everybody, right, and we knew that. 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: He compared it to when he was in Indianapolis and 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: they picked up DeForest Buckner and he goes, you know, 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: that was high quality. But if I remember correctly, that 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: was before the season started, so you had time to 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: work him in. But he also said, but when he 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: he acquired Montez Sweat that that was kind of the 86 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: same thing. But he goes, you know, it's really not 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: that big of am a being able to bring in 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: a new guy. Uh, he said, keep it simple, let 89 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: him play football. Don't overload him, you know, with a 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff mental stuff that he's got to think about. 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: And he said, and you know he he did that, 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: and he appreciates now having the versatility at the defensive 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: tackle spot between Quinn William, Kenny Clark Osa o'diggy Zoo 94 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: and when Solomon Thomas gets back on the field, you know, 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: and I was thinking yesterday when it came up when 96 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: they were talking to Quinn Williams. I think Nick asked 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the question on has he ever faced the tush push 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: and he said, no, I didn't. He goes, I haven't 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: faced it. He goes the closest maybe you know Buffalo 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: uses a lot of quarterback seats. 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 5: Yes, and he goes. 102 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: But Josh Allen, he said, Josh Allen doesn't need no help. 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: You know, with Josh, the running back barely pushes it 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 6: from behind. 105 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: They just and he kind of goes sideways and tries 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: to hit the. 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: Right. 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: And so I was thinking, so if you put in 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the middle, because they're going to face it, I've never 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: seen a team with that many third and ones, fourth 111 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: and ones, fourth and goal at the one, third and 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: goal at the one. So they'll face it. It's going 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: to happen. 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 6: They would sometimes it doesn't have to be one. If 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: they feel confident enough, it could be like thirty two. 116 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Now this's off top of my head, but Quinn Williams 117 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: three to oh three, Kenny Clark three fourteen. You can 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: also if you need to Perry and Winfrey winfree if 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: they have him active. He's on the fifty three now 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: three hundred, and then you come in with big boy 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Jade Toya at three forty. So maybe it's too much 122 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: weight to move if you put all four of those 123 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: guys out there in the middle. 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 6: Well, you know you could you could say that it's 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: going to play a big role in this game to 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 6: where it will be at one point controversial, right because 127 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 6: first of all, a lot of people jumping off sides 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 6: for some reason, the refs don't see that. 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: Ye false starts. 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: False starts are obvious, but they don't call it. What 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: are they looking at? 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 6: They're looking at, But it's going to be a problem 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 6: in this game for I don't know which side it's 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 6: going to be. Because if we're smart enough, I'm sure 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 6: I he's gonna alert the referees. Hey, this to his 137 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 6: push thing. You guys need, He'll have examples. I'm sure 138 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 6: you guys need to take care of this. I know 139 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 6: he's going to address that. 140 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: You know, every referee when they when the uh when 141 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: the coaches playing against Philadelphia. As soon as he walks 142 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: over to the referee, the first thing he says, already know, 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: I already know, I already know about it. 144 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Already and it's it's it's pretty simple. When you see 145 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a helmet. 146 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: Go before, it's still off side regardless. 147 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Hell, and they jump it. They jump it to try 148 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: to get the head start. 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: I haven't said that. 150 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 6: Jalen's no food, he's he's They have made the adjustments, right, 151 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: they have made so as much as you're gonna have 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 6: to have this up here, you gotta have some smart, 153 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: agile people, playmakers in. 154 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: The back, you know. 155 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: I know, ebra Fus plays it close to his vests 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: and he shows very little emotion when he goes to 157 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: these press conferences, but somewhere inside, I mean, if if 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: they just ask him, you know, in the back over there, 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: how excited he is about having number ninety two in 160 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: his defense. Yeah, I'm sure he is jumping for joy, 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: paying his ties. He's taking a little you know, because 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: you know what it is coming might be what brother me? Hey, 163 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: now you said something, Yes, because Mickey of you, you 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: can attest to this when you get a player of 165 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: that magnitude and you have a new defensive coordinator, Having 166 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: a Quinn Williams in that defense really does make his 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: scheme come together. Before we couldn't even tell what his 168 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: scheme was right. 169 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: It's amazing how it trickled back. 170 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 6: It trickled back to the linebackers tried trickled back to 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 6: the dbs all of a sudden, we know how to converge. 172 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, more than one person is getting 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 6: to the ball. So it's not trickled down. It's a 174 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: trickle trickle back theory. 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: But he he pointed out all the good qualities of 176 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Quentin Williams that he fits into an attacking defense which 177 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: we like to play. 178 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 179 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: And then they asked him if they had talked to 180 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: him about Quinn Williams before the trade, and he well, yeah, 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: they talked to you, but then they talked to everybody about, 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, in the draft and everything. And it's like, 183 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: where were you when you found out they trade? Because 184 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I was in my office. I got the call and 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: probably people down the hallway heard the yell because he 186 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: knew all about him, right, And you know what the 187 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: players know too. Players know who's good in this league 188 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: and who you know? They know who Quinn Williams is. Nyark, Well, yeah, 189 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: take long to find out either right? 190 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 5: Good? 191 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: And I think you know there was a I guess 192 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: there was a clip online or whatever of him talking 193 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: to the guys on the sideline and they're listening. Well, 194 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: of course they're listening. They know he's been to the 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl the last three years, yes, and they know 196 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: how good he is. Yeah, they're gonna listen, right, Uh. 197 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: And he's that type of guy I think to kind 198 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: of soft spoken by away for a guy three hundred 199 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and three pounds sixty three. Right. But yeah, the Flups 200 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: was talking about how he's kind of dragging everybody along 201 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: with him, as we pointed out, and so yeah, it's 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: a it's a great addition. And now this will be 203 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: another test to see, Uh if it was a Raiders 204 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: offensive line missing their two starting guards or and I'm 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: sure it led to it, or are they onto something 206 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: they can both happen because that middle pass rush is 207 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: significant now and it's good that it's coming from the 208 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: middle because maybe he doesn't escape hurts up the middle, right, 209 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: because because I think before you were worried about the 210 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: outside and he was gushing them in the middle. 211 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: Good quarterbacks like Jalen he's as he backs up, he's 212 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 6: not just looking down the field. He's looking at the 213 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 6: blocking path and up front he's seeing who comes up 214 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 6: wide in this peripheral, he's looking at the defensive end 215 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 6: see if he has an escape route either way. That's 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 6: what they do, and so hopefully we cannot only not 217 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: create that for him, eliminate that option for him. But 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 6: also I'm looking at this linebacker, Wilson. You have linebackers 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: are extremely physical Ray Lewis type, and you have some 220 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 6: that are extremely smart. 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: Some are both. I look at Wilson as a guy. 222 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 6: I didn't see him being extremely physical, but I saw 223 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 6: him every time the ball went away from him or 224 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 6: come at him, he was always in the right place. 225 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: I had leverage to where he knew where to go. 226 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 6: He knew how to get off of blocks, he knew 227 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: how to beat blocks. His pursuit to the bubble screen 228 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: I saw in the game was right there. 229 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: He helped hold up everything. 230 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 6: Didn't make the play, but he allowed someone else to 231 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: make the play. So when you have someone with that 232 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: type of awareness, then now you're you're one step ahead 233 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 6: of the offense, especially when you're talking about playing a 234 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 6: middle linebacker position and you're going against a quarterback like 235 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts Blue said. 236 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: He's smart, he picks up fast, and he's able to 237 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: make adjustments. And that's what he I think liked the most, 238 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Like when there's something going on and you got to adjust, 239 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: He's that guy. The other thing he said, he's a 240 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: good zone he's good in zone coverage. And we saw 241 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: it on the play in the end zone. Yes, where 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: he followed it was ours right into the end zone. 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: He was underneath the way he was supposed to be underneath. 244 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: I was actually wide receiver. 245 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: It was because he was following somebody. 246 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: He was following Number one. 247 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: If I'm not say, okay, zone has been a cussword 248 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: around here, and finally we get a linebacker smart enough 249 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: to your credit and what you're talking about on that play, 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: a guy that does it to the letter. And that's 251 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: all you can basically ask. If we hadn't we hadn't 252 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 4: seen that, right, Guys are always looking at each other, 253 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: pointing at each other, and then that there's the question 254 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: about ebra Flus and his scheme. But you guys know, 255 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: coming down to this Philly game on Sunday, it's going 256 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: to be the running game. We talked about the first 257 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: game of the season and the rain delay. You're not 258 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: gonna get a rain delay in this game, all right, 259 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: you're not gonna get that to make adjustments in this 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: game knowing that Saquon Barkley isn't having the year that 261 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: you would have coming off of last season basically, and 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: you know, you ask anybody you know, who do you 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: think has more yards Javonte Williams or Saquon Barkley. People 264 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: will say most people will say Saquon Barkley. Javonte Williams 265 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: has more yards rushing yards. This think it's closed, it's 266 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: I think right now. Davante is probably. 267 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Real quick is nine, yes, and he's barkly six six two. 268 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: Six sixty two. 269 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, not not close a game away basically as 270 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: far as production goes. But in a game like this, Everson, 271 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: from a defensive standpoint, shutting down the run is imperative 272 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: to victory as a defensive line what you've seen, just 273 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: to go off of what you saw in Las Vegas, 274 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: do you believe based off of how limited the Raiders 275 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: were in their offensive line in lists? Before we start 276 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: giving the Philadelphia Eagles any excuses, let's just say this 277 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: right now. They will be missing They could be missing 278 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: Cam Jurgens a center, and for sure they're going to 279 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: be missing Lane Johnson who has a list Frank injury. 280 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: But stopping the run is imperative. 281 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 6: It is imperative, but it's hard for me because you're 282 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 6: playing such a complete Team's potentially complete because offensively, I 283 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 6: think they can do whatever they want to do, talking 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 6: about the Eagles whenever they want to do it. If 285 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: they choose to run the ball, I think they can 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: control the game by running the ball. If they choose 287 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 6: to pass the ball, then they can do that. If 288 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 6: they want to mix it up, that's fine, and they 289 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 6: can do those things simply because the defense that they have, 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: so as far as offincern stopping their running game for 291 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 6: us is imperative on our end. But when you do 292 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: that with Philadelphia, you're always going to have to be 293 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 6: ready to get back on the field again. Be ready 294 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 6: to come back on the field because that defense is 295 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: not going to be out there long. That's what we're 296 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 6: looking at to me, and I know I'm getting a 297 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: little bit off of what you're asking, but I can't 298 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 6: separate one from the other. You're gonna have to your 299 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 6: offense and your defense are gonna have to be complimentary. 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 6: That's what Philly is a masters at the complementary ball 301 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 6: that they play. 302 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: From a team standpoint. 303 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 6: If we stop the run, I feel good about us 304 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: because I would rather they try to pass it on us. 305 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 6: I truly still believe that I would rather they try 306 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 6: to pass it on us now as opposed to running 307 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 6: the ball, because I think our secondary is showed up. 308 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Well, this will scare you. Barkley has four rushing touchdowns, 309 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: leading the league. Is Jalen Hurts the team? Jalen Hurts 310 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: with six six rushing touchdowns. Yes, so that's concerning as 311 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: a matter of fact. As a matter of fact, he's 312 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: got as many rushing touchdowns. So I just saw this 313 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: as the touchdown receptions combined by DeVante Smith and aj Brown. 314 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: That's why those guys are upset. That's why they. 315 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: That's why they off quarterbacks stealing the show? 316 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: Are you talking about? What is this guy doing? He's 317 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 5: going into the phone booth, putting on the cape. Is 318 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: stealing this show himself. 319 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: He wants to do it all him and that touch 320 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: push and I'm sure it's taking those guys off. 321 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 6: And I'll bet that's just the way the coach likes it. 322 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 6: Because you're looking at the Super Bowl MVP, and this 323 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 6: guy has really been one of the more underrated quarterbacks. 324 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 6: Hey give him too much credit, but we gotta be 325 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 6: realistic about how they win games and how they are successful. 326 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: It doesn't go through Saquon, It goes through that defense. 327 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: But he is the catalyst offensively. 328 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he's only averaging sixty six yards a game. 329 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: If we do the math. It's easy to do the 330 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: math because it's ten and Javonte Williams averaging eighty yards. 331 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: So and he's got, by the way, eight touchdowns. That's huge, 332 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: right that is, and so that means somewhere they're getting 333 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: short yardage ones. He's done it from distance. But again, 334 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: that's to me a reflection of your offensive line. And 335 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: so I think that that's you know, that's gonna be 336 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: a huge thing in this game, is that Cowboys offensive 337 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: line back together. Can can Tyler Geiiton play as well 338 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: as he did against the Raiders two weeks in a row. 339 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: Before we get to the defense, because we're going there 340 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: in the second segment, I want to stay on Jalen 341 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 4: Hurst for just this quick second and go back to 342 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: the end of the game. In the first game of 343 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 4: the season, they spread us out and remember all the 344 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: hoopla about that. They spread us out and then he 345 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: ends up running it and you know, milking the clock 346 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: and the rest is history. I think in this game 347 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: that's one of the things that you have to look 348 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: out for. The RPO. You didn't have to worry about 349 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: that last week because Gino had he didn't. 350 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: Want to run them and their running game is a 351 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 5: chroch it is done right. 352 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: And but this in this game with Saquon Barkley, that 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: ability to pull the ball at the last minute, and 354 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: I think now, and I'm just talking about ebra Flus 355 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: in the scheme, having a Quinn Williams, having Osa playing 356 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: the way that he's playing, and now your ends are 357 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: now able to be more off, be more disciplined on 358 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: the outside and play because they don't have to watch 359 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: them the same amount of things go back to when 360 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: Michael was here, right, Michael did at times you didn't 361 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: have that push and so Micha's trying to be judge 362 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: Durian executioner on plays and then he ends up they 363 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: just leave him by hisself and he's having to make 364 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: a decision right in this as a Roku Jadavian clowney. 365 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: Guys like that, Dante Fowler playing discipline against that RPO 366 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: can help this team, especially with a guy like Jalen 367 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: Hurst that you know, at some point, even if it's 368 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 4: just sixty six yards a game, it's gonna be at 369 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: a pivotal time in the game that you need to 370 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 4: get a stop against. 371 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 6: I think we're gonna have to bring our safeties down. 372 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: It's okay, that's simple. We're gonna have to bring them down. 373 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 6: I think the coaches might feel really good about this 374 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 6: infusion of new players now, especially in the secondary. 375 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: Now you're looking at Carson, You're looking at Rebel. 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: You know, now you've got healthy safeties possibly coming down. 377 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: Not just looking for Saquin, They're also looking for Jalen. 378 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 6: They're gonna have to be looking out for Jalen. And 379 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 6: the good thing about this defense from what we saw 380 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 6: last week and you would expect for it to continue, 381 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 6: is when we play that zone defense, everyone's. 382 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 5: Eyes are looking at the ball. 383 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: We couldn't say that early on this season, but bringing 384 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 6: in these veterans, showing the improvement that on the offensive line, 385 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 6: with just not just Coinning, but with Wilson at linebacker, 386 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 6: I think we will be a smarter secondary because number One, 387 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 6: we got our people that number two. We have two 388 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 6: good people that two excellent people that are coming in 389 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: to help us out. 390 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: I think that fit will help us be a little 391 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: bit smarter as a defense. 392 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: So here's something I don't think everybody remembers from the 393 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: first game. Seems like a year ago, right. Each team 394 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: only had eight possessions in that game normals ten to twelve. 395 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: The Cowboys started off the game touchdown, touchdown, field goal, 396 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: field goal fumble at the Philadelphia eleven yard Mount Sanders. 397 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I remember that. 398 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't believe. 399 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy, they're getting ready to score again. Yeah, okay, 400 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: So Philadelphia starts out touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. They 401 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: held them to a field goal in the second half, Cowboys. 402 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 5: That post goal post was that post delay? The field 403 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 5: goal with that post delay? 404 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: How did it was? It was the first possession of 405 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: the second half. 406 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it was before, it was before. 407 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they punt punt, punt punt, end of game. 408 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: So the deal was, you know, when the Cowboys had 409 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: the ball, they ended up it was a fei and 410 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: out and then they ended up getting to the forty 411 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: five and they got stopped on downs. So again, Uh, 412 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: they weren't out of the ball. 413 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: Game, Yeah right, No, never, they never were. 414 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: Despite the drops, yeah, you know, despite. 415 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: We were still in it. 416 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, a chance to so you know, and whatever the 417 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: defense was doing, they did something right. It wasn't like 418 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: they got run off the field. 419 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: Well now, and let's just be real, Philly was missing 420 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: a hell of a player on the defense. Yeah, I 421 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: got it, So let's let's understand fault. And it was Yeah, 422 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 6: you can make up for that. 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Mickey, I got a question for you about 473 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: our boy, Cavante Turpin. 474 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: You want to see more from him? 475 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 10: Is he? 476 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 4: This is Chris being brought this up, so I don't 477 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: I won't take credit for this. Chris brought this to 478 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: my attention and we had a conversation about it. 479 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 5: He is either boom or bust right now. 480 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: When you need him to make a catch, he may 481 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: drop it when he has an opportunity to make a 482 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: playoff special opportunity. 483 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 6: I know it's behind him. You know that past he has. 484 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 6: He should have caught that. You know, come on, Mickey, 485 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: come on, clean it up. I mean, I know he's 486 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 6: your one. 487 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: I think he's still hurting. I think he's still hurting. 488 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: I do not see whatever the blocking scheme is on 489 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: the returns. There's no hole, there's no opening. 490 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 6: Every time he gets the ball, there's somewhat of the 491 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: opposite team in his face. 492 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: Blunt returns have been neutered, right, they just kick it 493 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: high or kick it to the outside. They're not giving 494 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: them a chance. But on the kickoff returns, I keep 495 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: looking for a crease. I think he is too, Yes 496 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: he is. And then he's just saying, okay. 497 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: I'm going in the middle. I'm going in yeah. 498 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he ended up with and I 499 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: guess it's because of how many times you get to 500 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: do it. He had one hundred and twenty five hundred 501 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: and thirty yards in kickoff return. 502 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: And he had the last I believe it was. The 503 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: last return was decent. 504 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: And he got out to the outside and he busted it. Yes, 505 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: and he got forty to the forty something. So I 506 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: don't see anything there. I think from the receiving standpoint, 507 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I think that what the two guys are doing. And 508 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: then floor noise noise stepping up. He hasn't got as 509 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: many opportunities, but yeah, I just think they need to 510 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: take more advantage of the speed. 511 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 5: I think he's still having some. 512 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you can get back from there. 513 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: Make if somebody ever asked you a question about me, 514 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: you make sure you defend me like you you make 515 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: sure you do Hey, I wanted to have a conversation. 516 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: I want you to do the same. Make sure you 517 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 4: keep the. 518 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: Same when we get those questions out during the Star 519 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: Sports to a reception, right and it's like, okay, you 520 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: ask it, now, don't the answer George Pickens. 521 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: George Pickens in a big time game like this, this 522 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 4: is this is that part where I really start saying, 523 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 4: especially again say big vangel defense that you know is 524 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 4: going to present some looks. They're gonna try and prevent 525 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: everything deep. So I expect for them to set those 526 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 4: safeties out there h far enough that you know, you 527 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 4: don't have a threat from CD or George taking them 528 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: taking them yard. But quinck On Mitchell and Dori Jackson, 529 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: these guys, this is me on paper, are no match 530 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: for George Pickens and CD Lamb. 531 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 5: They are not. 532 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: Okay, we showed first game. We showed that in the 533 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 6: first game. We showed that. 534 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: Because they had too many times Dorr Jackson going one 535 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: on one with one of those guys, and if it 536 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: wasn't for CDs drops, they would have scored thirty some points. 537 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: So you're right, and Pickens had his day. 538 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: But everything I see it's like, whoa this Mitchell guy? 539 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: You know he's Everson Walls. 540 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, step up. 541 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: So so I'm curious on how they'll play it. You know, 542 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: are you gonna zone it? Are you gonna say, okay, 543 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: you take out one of these guys and we'll take 544 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: our chance doubling the other guy. I want to see 545 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: it because he didn't affec the game the first time. 546 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 6: Run Here's where the Philly's gonna hang their hat and 547 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: it's got to come from not coverage, but from pressure. 548 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: Pressure. 549 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 6: Right, That's the only way that they know that they 550 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 6: have a chance. He's still gonna be sitting down on routes. 551 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 6: And as long as I've running game is working and 552 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 6: their play actions working, that's gonna have us in control. 553 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 6: If that doesn't work, then we're just gonna be in 554 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 6: for a ballgame. Because sometimes game plans ain't worth a crowd. 555 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: Sometimes against teams like this and in a game like this, 556 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 6: against the opponent like this, sometimes you just gotta say, Okay, 557 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 6: who's gonna end up standing when it's all said and 558 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 6: done right. And we've seen it happen in a lot 559 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 6: of nice games this year. I think the Cowboys are 560 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: in for one of those games to where you're gonna 561 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 6: have to show the metal. Forget the game plan. Let 562 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 6: me see what you can do, Carson. Let me see 563 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 6: what you can do. Wilson, and I'm talking about the linebacker, Wilson. 564 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 6: Let me see what you can do front line. Let 565 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 6: me see what you can do offensive line. Let me 566 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: see if you can just keep us alive in this 567 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 6: game to where we can move. 568 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: The ball and take advantage of field position. 569 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's like game plans. It's like a boxing match. Yeah, 570 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: you got a great game plan going in and then 571 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: you get hit in the mouth. 572 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: Up from there, you just man up from there if 573 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: you can. 574 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: We were talking about Quintin, we were talking about Javonte Williams, 575 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: and you were talking about complimentary football just basically how 576 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: Philadelphia plays it. Uh, they're itching out those one point wins, 577 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: but it's because they're of their commitment to running the 578 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: ball and playing good defense. The Cowboys formula is completely 579 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: different than Phillis. If the if the running game ain't working, 580 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: we're gonna air it out, Okay, But this is a 581 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: game that you're going to have to establish the running game. 582 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: What is your gut tell you about the success that 583 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: you think the Cowboys can have against this defense? 584 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 5: You have to be you have to remain stubborn. You 585 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: have to remain stubborn. 586 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 6: I remember Tom Landry and I brought it up before 587 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 6: talking about Tony Dorset and his success on how he 588 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: runs the ball. The Cowboys small offensive lineman. We make 589 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 6: were like Elijah on we make you go later when 590 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 6: you go with ladder, then Dorset hits the weakness, but 591 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 6: it's not gonna work every time. You have to be patient. 592 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 6: And he talked about it, and soon we're gonna hit 593 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 6: that big one. Now that's because door set. Because they 594 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 6: had door set. Now, if you don't have door set, 595 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 6: you have to be more consistent and persistent in running 596 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: the ball. Sometimes it's gonna be it's gonna be thirty three. 597 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 6: They might be shutting down our passing game. You're gonna 598 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 6: have to at one point second and three thirty three. 599 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 6: You gotta run it. You gotta run it. God, you 600 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 6: need to beat your man. We need you to beat 601 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 6: your man on this one. I don't care how good 602 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 6: he is. You gotta stand up and work it. And 603 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 6: that that's gonna be. That's that that game I'm talking 604 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 6: about to where you got to show your guts in 605 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: this one. 606 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: You gotta. I think they got it un your stand. 607 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I think Schottenheimer does it does in the one running game, 608 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: a three yard carry is a good one. That's a 609 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: good one, man, Right, come give me three, give me three, right, I'll. 610 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: Take three against this team. That is true. 611 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: I'll say that three and three, six and four, right, 612 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: and you can run for four. 613 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 6: Because a team like this up front, they can create 614 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: the chaos and have it, and that can cause a 615 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 6: lot of bad turnovers, which we have been prone to 616 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 6: do in our past in big games. 617 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 5: So we have to be careful with that. 618 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 6: We have shown to be careful with that with a 619 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 6: few exceptions this year. So even though our passing game 620 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: can be a have a we can have a lot 621 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 6: of passes in a particular ball game. Uh, there are 622 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 6: times when we need to stop with all the fancy 623 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 6: handoffs from here and all this for just boom, Yeah, 624 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 6: let's go just boom. 625 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 5: Let's go this in the last game. 626 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people look at the 627 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: Vegas game as a scrimmage, but Javonti Williams had his 628 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 4: highest carries in the Vegas game twenty two carries for 629 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: ninety three yards. I for one am voting for him 630 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 4: to got twenty five. I think we twenty five, all right, 631 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 4: But we've seen right when you start to see him 632 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 4: get going, they take him out. Shotty will take him out. 633 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: And now that rotation instead of it being blue, it's Davis. 634 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: Now have are you Mickey? 635 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: Are you? 636 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: Are you okay with the combination now with Davis and 637 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: Williams are what are I guess the question is what 638 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: happened to Blue? 639 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: And here's here's and here's your answer. Okay, they won't 640 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: say it, but I'm sure the fumble that the Cowboys 641 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: recovered kind of got their attention. But what it's come 642 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: down to is, and Schottenheimer talked about it yesterday. He said, 643 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: it's offense and it's special teams. And if you notice, 644 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Davis ended up being the personal protector in these last 645 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: two games, so that's his special team's contribution Blue. From 646 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: a special teams, he's the second kickoff return guy. They 647 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: don't want him kicking the ball to him they wanted 648 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: in Turpensan, he said. So, he said, it's important that 649 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: the second running back has to impact the game in 650 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: different ways. And that's why out now, I think he 651 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: he might have one more elevation left, or he's close 652 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: to having no more elevations. Davis, and I think they 653 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: have a spot left on the fifty three, even after 654 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: moving Winfrey up, so they might if that's the way 655 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: they want to go. And he's not bad, right, I 656 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: think he's he always their decisions on him always surprised 657 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: me because in preseason he runs well, and training camp 658 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: he runs well, and then he gets cut and ends 659 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: up being I guess the numbers thing. Uh, and then 660 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: he's on the practice squad and then they think they 661 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: need them. 662 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah right. 663 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 10: A car. 664 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have been setting that dealership a few hours. 665 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's their explanation. I still would love to 666 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: see Blue Speed added to this offense. 667 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 6: You got to have a play for him, might You 668 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 6: can't just but he's got to do other things. 669 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: And the way Shoty was explaining it is, we had 670 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: other needs at other positions that we had to elevate, 671 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: or we needed more guys because of injury at those positions. 672 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: So be interesting to see what decision they make if 673 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: they can keep three running and you know the third 674 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: running back. Now they use lip key quite a bit 675 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: in the Hey boy, I wish Bill was too tight 676 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: a right that man he got worked in two big 677 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: plays offense. 678 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: You know, I'm not a lipty fan from last year, 679 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 6: last few years, but he looked good. 680 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good. 681 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: It does he absolutely he did, and being able to 682 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: use a variety of players at times like I mean especially, 683 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 4: I mean that was a key play that lift he made. 684 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: You know, I just I might my want for. 685 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 4: Williams because he seems to be one of those guys 686 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: that he continues to get stronger as the game goes on. 687 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: And I know the mentality in the NFL is completely 688 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 4: changed from like having that bell cow running back. I 689 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: just want to see what he does with twenty five 690 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 4: twenty six carries. 691 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 6: I think if Philly Show's stubborn against our pass I 692 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 6: hope he's smart enough and just not being prideful enough. 693 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 6: Don't throw your pride away. Forget that passing game. Let's 694 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 6: see if we can win another way. 695 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: So Davis, this last game had four carries twenty yards. 696 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 9: Bad. 697 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 5: That's bad. He looked good. He looked good doing it. Left. 698 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: He had one for five and I believe it was 699 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: on either third or fourth down. 700 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 701 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 7: Man. 702 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: Now, I think he made two real nice third down plays. 703 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: And he also caught three passes for thirty six. 704 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 5: Yeah. 705 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: One one was I think it's for fifteen yards. Almost 706 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: looked like a bubbles. 707 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: It was fifteen yards. 708 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was. 709 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 6: It was a really nice play. He was leaning forward 710 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 6: with tight Yeah. So if they wouldn't hit them, he 711 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 6: with a kep on going. 712 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm okay with Williams getting eighteen to twenty carries A game. 713 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: That's it. 714 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: Keep him crush yeah, uh and then you know, and 715 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: if the other guy gets a partial series or whatever. 716 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: Okay, fine, I'm I'm with heck man. I want to 717 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 5: see him pounded. I want to see him pound. 718 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, if you're pounding, you better pound, right, I don't 719 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't want you hitting your head against the wall. 720 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 5: Somebody just interfire. 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It doesn't feel different. 773 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 7: Well, the headset feels weird. 774 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: No, we don't make head jokes. 775 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 5: Okay, this is well, it's the volume on it. 776 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what if you make a head joke, 777 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: you open everything else after that. 778 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 5: Bill. 779 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: It's the volume on it. 780 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 5: The volume of your head. You got you got breaking news. 781 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 5: We want to hear it. 782 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 7: I got, I got breaking news. Just tape the Brian 783 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 7: shot Nimer's Coaches Show. Mickey will probably be interested in 784 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 7: this more than the other. 785 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 5: Two people in this room because Dicky is very. 786 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 7: Meticulous about what the team does during the day and everything. 787 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 7: What's the weather like out there today? 788 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: Slap it as hell? 789 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 5: Oh it is. 790 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 7: And I made a joke to coach, said, well, I 791 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 7: got I got some advice for you. Take it inside 792 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 7: it day. Well, actually, at this moment they are making 793 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 7: the decision on taking it outside. No way they're considering. 794 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 7: And they got equipment. 795 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: Well I saw the jugs, machines. 796 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 7: Its outside, and he's just just making sure everything would 797 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 7: be all right, you know, yeah, but they always prefer outside. 798 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: It got to figure it out on wet turf. 799 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 5: But that that's what he's figuring out. 800 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 7: How wet is the turf race? 801 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: It is wet, Well, it's wet, still raining. How much 802 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: wet does is it still raining? It's not raining when 803 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: you are okay, stop, I. 804 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 5: Don't think it is. It's still wet. No, if it 805 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 5: was still raining then and that's it's in at and 806 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 5: T Stadium. 807 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: My backyards, the litmus tests when the water starts pinding 808 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: up back there. It's wet, it's wet, it ain't seeping 809 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: the ground. 810 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 5: That's just kind of different from me. I thought. Since 811 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 5: you're planning indoors. 812 00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: Basically, unless they're going to open the roof, I'm kind. 813 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 5: Of confused on that. 814 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 7: They've got good turf out there. 815 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 5: Okay, they do great turf inside. 816 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 7: Well, maybe maybe he likes the turf outside. 817 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that indoor turf by the way in Vegas wasn't 818 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: all that great. 819 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 7: It was and that the other thing, it was the 820 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 7: other thing factory in this. 821 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: Warm enough Really, what do you mean new turf? I 822 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: thought that was real grass. 823 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 5: Oh, that's right. 824 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 7: What he's trying to you know, the thing is the 825 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 7: you got to make sure that there's no slippage, obviously, 826 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 7: and so that's why. But the I'm no expert, but 827 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 7: it would make it softer, okay, to where it's not 828 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 7: as bad on your knees. 829 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: And John, that's a good point. 830 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 6: You maybe that would be a reason watching when you 831 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 6: slip on that with. 832 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 7: Right, And that's that's the whole thing is he's making 833 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 7: sure that there's no possibility of slippage. 834 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I can tell them right now. 835 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: Just take it inside. 836 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 7: But the point of it all is is you want 837 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 7: and you want it to be on the best turf 838 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 7: possible for these players, especially when they're playing four games 839 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 7: in eighteen days. 840 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, is there something wrong with the forward center turf? 841 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I call some games over there at the. 842 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: Okay, it's hard, Okay, I mean it's hard. 843 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 5: I think. 844 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 7: I think it's the possibility that hey, it may be 845 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 7: easier on their legs being on a softer surface and 846 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 7: the rain softens it up. But you have to make 847 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 7: sure that there's as ever, since says there's no chance 848 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 7: that there could have any slippage. 849 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 5: Some agriculture. But it's just interesting. 850 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 11: It's interesting, just pathologist, the things that they think about 851 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 11: and consider throughout the day that none of us even 852 00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 11: give any thought to. 853 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 5: Is that well? 854 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 4: I was I asked the question going into break about 855 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: this rivalry. It has been a long standing rivalry between 856 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles, and some of 857 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: your fondest memories of this physical matchup ever since what 858 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 4: has been one of yours? 859 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 9: Uh? 860 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 6: I guess it does have something to do with the 861 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 6: physicality that was the the what they call it, the bounty, 862 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 6: bounty boat bounty. 863 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 5: You can't you can't forget that stuff. 864 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 3: Man. 865 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 6: To watch two extremely egotistical coaches going at it the 866 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 6: way they did in that game, both of them hated 867 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 6: each other, and for a coach to put a bounty 868 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 6: on a former player, Yeah, that's just the most low 869 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 6: down thing I think I've seen in sports. 870 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what do you think about it? 871 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 5: That was low down? Guys. 872 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 6: Well, the kicker, he's a kicker just because he played 873 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 6: for you. Oh he played for now, he's take him out. 874 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 6: Take him out. 875 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: And kicker he had the linebacker go get him, Louis. 876 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 5: Boy, Jimmy, good boy, Jimmy getting Oh man, you. 877 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: Remember what Jimmy said after that, That's what I was 878 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: laughing at. 879 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have talked to Buddy, but he put 880 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 7: his big fat reer into the outside. 881 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 5: That was horrible and hilarious at the same time. 882 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: Well, and then chapter two when they returned there to 883 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: play the second time and the Cowboys were one in 884 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen whenever, and they got shut out again and 885 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: the fans in the stands were throwing snowballs on the field. 886 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 5: I remember that one wasn't so nice. 887 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: I remember, yeah. And some of them were yellow, and 888 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: let your mind want. 889 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 5: Some of them. 890 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: They were yellow, straight, hard and some had batteries, some 891 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: were frozen. 892 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 5: They did it all. 893 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 6: So they're trying to tell us, Hey, you guys, you're 894 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 6: on the field. 895 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 5: On the field. 896 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 6: You're damn right on the field, because they can't reach 897 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 6: us from no matter where. 898 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 5: They do it. They couldn't reach us unless we. 899 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: Were on the Sidelok, behind the line. 900 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 6: On the sideline, So you can bussy that's all you want. 901 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 6: I am not backing up. 902 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 5: I'm going forward. 903 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: I was on the sideline. The game was over early, 904 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: so I was down there to go in early, and 905 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: the snowballs kept coming and one kind of comes sliding 906 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: past my feet and I turned around and your rag 907 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: arm and the guard goes, hey, don't incite those people already. 908 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: It's like, right, I don't need And about that time, 909 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy the game was over. Jimmy's walking under the tunnel 910 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: and they dumped the. 911 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 5: Beer on it. 912 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: Oh no, that's when they were He got bumped and 913 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 6: I think it was beer. He got bombastard withikes. 914 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: Telling you it was yellow. 915 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 6: Covering with a towel for some reason, and a towel 916 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 6: is not going to stop a barage of hard snowballs 917 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 6: at you. So you know, when you think about Philly, 918 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 6: I'm sorry that is that that whole situation. They can 919 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 6: bring it down to its lowest level. 920 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 5: At that time. 921 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 6: It had nothing to do with football, Like how nasty, 922 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 6: can we bet? That's kind of how they approached it 923 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 6: back then, especially with Buddy Ryan at the him. 924 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: I've got two one. If you remember in eighty seven, 925 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: this will be right up your alley. The strike year, 926 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: the three replacement games. The second one they were playing 927 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: Philly at Texas Stadium, and Tom it was the I 928 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it was the first possession, second possession. 929 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: He called a wide receiver and around Kelvin Edwards and 930 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: he went sixty two yards for a touchdown and just 931 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: irritated the hell out of Buddy because if you remember, 932 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 1: Texas was trying to build the team as well as 933 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: he could with replacement players, and Philadelphia was like, oh, 934 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: just bring some guys in, we'll play right. So the 935 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys ended up winning that game. They went back and 936 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: played them two weeks later. It was the first game 937 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: after the strike, was over and they put it on 938 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: the Cowboys pretty good. I think they were up like 939 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty and it was the last possession. The 940 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys went for it on fourth down. They didn't get it, 941 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: so they're at about the thirty some yard line in Philadelphia, 942 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: gets the ball and Buddy remembered the end a round 943 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: and they drove down and it was time to take 944 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: a knee, and they took a knee. They took a knee. 945 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: And then the next play, Randall Cunningham fate taking a 946 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: knee and threw into the end zone and it was 947 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: interference and they got the ball back at the one 948 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: yard line and there was only like two or three 949 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: seconds left. He sent Buyers in to score a touchdown 950 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: thirty seven. 951 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 5: Well, I must admit in that one, the first game. 952 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: You were cheering for the Eagle. 953 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 954 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 6: The whole team sold me out as far as the 955 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 6: union was right, right, you're right, And when it saw 956 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 6: said done. Because of that, I truly believe that was 957 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 6: the beginning of the end of Tom Landry's coaching career. Well, 958 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 6: no one trusted anyone after that. 959 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that stuck out. And then the ninety one 960 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: game when they got shut out the season or it 961 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: was second game, third game of the year. They got 962 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: beat Troy Aikman got sacked eleven times and still ties 963 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: for the franchise record. Was a game, and then the 964 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys went up there needing to win to clinch a playoff. 965 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: Berth and Kelvin Martin had the eighty fee our kickoff 966 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: putt return for the touchdown to take the lead. 967 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 5: And that's why we hate the Eagles. Take us out 968 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 5: of your bill. 969 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 7: All right, and hey, we got a great tour here 970 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,240 Speaker 7: to take us out as well. And we will shout 971 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 7: out to you. What are you wearing the Missouri. 972 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,479 Speaker 1: I'm getting the candid start. They need all the help 973 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: they can get in and in our way of the 974 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: college football playoff on Saturday. 975 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 7: It's a fabulous Friday Fight Song edition to Migsha I'll 976 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 7: bring Tomorrow at High Cowboys. 977 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 978 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.