Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. So now what Welcome to
Speaker 1: another week of Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones with Brian brought
Speaker 1: us Mickey Spagnola just derived from his local radio gig.
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. We hope will be along and he will
Speaker 1: be doing doing some work right now. And how y'all
Speaker 1: do you guys doing on a Monday morning? Doing well?
Speaker 1: Doing well? I used to, you know, complete the autopsy
Speaker 1: and find out what happened and then you move on,
Speaker 1: and that's we talked about. There you go, Garri said,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with a little Simon Garfunkle this morning. It
Speaker 1: is kind of sad when a season end. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's we talked about. This is and again I always
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to use this word because I don't think
Speaker 1: I use it the right way. Finality of it all that,
Speaker 1: you know, it comes to an end, it comes to
Speaker 1: an abrupt end. It's it's my racing analogy of going
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventeen miles an hour at the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway and then hitting the wall and you stop,
Speaker 1: you know, and your and your suddenness to it, and
Speaker 1: you're shaken and you're kind of dazed, and you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of looking, you know, to Okay, what's next. And
Speaker 1: you know this, Uh, this football team has a lot
Speaker 1: to be proud of the way they play, the way
Speaker 1: they they a young team came together under some really
Speaker 1: trying circumstances. But you know that the thing about you know,
Speaker 1: you you got to you placed the team team that
Speaker 1: is h that did a really great job of blocking
Speaker 1: your front. They took away one of your strengths and
Speaker 1: they kind of played how you needed to play against
Speaker 1: them to win that football game. And I think that's
Speaker 1: really what I learned about it watching that tape. Mickey
Speaker 1: decided to take his headsets off. Yeah they're not working,
Speaker 1: So I thought i'd listened with you had the dead
Speaker 1: set on. Yeah. Absolutely, I think Brian was exactly right. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the strengths we thought the Cowboys had running
Speaker 1: the ball and stopping the run ended up being their detriment.
Speaker 1: In that game, and hate credit the Rams absolutely there too.
Speaker 1: They were you know, maybe we undersold how good that front.
Speaker 1: We you know, we talked all week about how good
Speaker 1: Donald was and Sue and Brockers and and and then
Speaker 1: we didn't expect him to play well and they played
Speaker 1: awfully well. Yeah, I mean that looked like the Domicon
Speaker 1: Sue twenty twelve or whatever. When you guys were going
Speaker 1: on Friday eight, talked about that about Sue. He was
Speaker 1: worried about Sue showing up, that this non existent Sue.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden he shows up. And I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys did a heck of a job against
Speaker 1: Darren Donald in this game, I really really do. I
Speaker 1: think the plan they had, the way that Connor Williams played,
Speaker 1: I think a boost of confidence for Connor Williams to
Speaker 1: line up and he got Sue a couple of times
Speaker 1: and Donald to play. He made, you know, two tackles.
Speaker 1: He made one of the tackles where they're trying to
Speaker 1: scoop him on the back side, and you know, Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith could have been a you know, you know what
Speaker 1: and hit him in the back of his legs, and
Speaker 1: he didn't do it. You know, and and so I
Speaker 1: feel like though that you know the thing where I
Speaker 1: where I missed the boat, Guys. This is where I
Speaker 1: missed the boat is I didn't watch the last three
Speaker 1: games that they played Arizona and San Francisco. In those games,
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, Okay, how did they
Speaker 1: get beat by Philadelphia? How they get beat by Chicago?
Speaker 1: That's where. But if you go back and watch those games,
Speaker 1: you see C. J. Anderson running the football. You see
Speaker 1: the combinations that they're using with their blocking schemes. This
Speaker 1: is where I let the cowboy fan down, is that
Speaker 1: I should have gone back and looked at Arizona. I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley. When an actuality, you
Speaker 1: should have thought, well, C. J. Anderson has played well
Speaker 1: here the last three weeks. They find him on the
Speaker 1: scrap heap, They get him involved the line scheme, push
Speaker 1: shot blockers, they create holes, He makes runs. You know,
Speaker 1: their offense kind of moves along. But give them some
Speaker 1: credit with that their ability to run the ball. Give
Speaker 1: some credit with the way they blocked against DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: in this game. And they and they did it in
Speaker 1: a unique way. With a wide receiver with bunch formations
Speaker 1: and bringing the receiver across the formation, so you never
Speaker 1: he never really got an understanding or a bead on
Speaker 1: who was going to block him. You know, either it
Speaker 1: was a cross receiver or a bunch receiver on a chip.
Speaker 1: You know. Those were things that they did to try
Speaker 1: and and alleviate him. And some of the stunts that
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have run to get guys home, the
Speaker 1: combinations with with Lawrence and Crawford and Collins, they said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you could do your twist stunts, but we're gonna put
Speaker 1: four guys to block your three and we're gonna let
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth take take Randy Gregory by himself. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna let that that We're gonna try
Speaker 1: and win that block or one on one, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna take care of your other scheme blocks. And
Speaker 1: some of the big plays that they made in the
Speaker 1: passing game, and they didn't have a lot of big players.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's some twenty two yards. I think twenty
Speaker 1: one yards was as long as pass of the day.
Speaker 1: But that was a well protected four on three scheme
Speaker 1: that they went one on one on the other side
Speaker 1: and then boom, there you go. I mean, that's how
Speaker 1: they make plays. See, that's that was the first thing
Speaker 1: that surprised me. Uh when I we knew they were
Speaker 1: gonna be in their nickel offense though time three wide receivers,
Speaker 1: so I expect to see them spread all over the field, right,
Speaker 1: But I was looking and I'm going, why are they
Speaker 1: so bunched up? That's the way they playing. It was
Speaker 1: like I had to go back to my flip card
Speaker 1: to go they got a bunch of tight ends and
Speaker 1: why is everybody so close to the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 1: And that's what really I think fooled. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it fooled the Cowboys, if that's what they had
Speaker 1: done all season long, or if they did it for
Speaker 1: this game. And Brian's exactly right. That's how they controlled
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence because he was it looked like bumper cars
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, they they figured out with with the receiver. Sorry, Bill,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna make it a point, probably better
Speaker 1: than mine. But they well that goes without say they
Speaker 1: you know, they did a really Robert Woods not only
Speaker 1: can he hurt you throw, but he's a bigger body guy.
Speaker 1: You know, Robert Woods did a really nice job. They
Speaker 1: also with Josh Reynolds. You know, they they they found
Speaker 1: ways to attack Lawrence and keep him off balance. You know,
Speaker 1: they said, okay, you know, Hamerstein, We're not gonna let
Speaker 1: you just have to block him one on one. But
Speaker 1: they but they it wasn't like every single time it's say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna chip you this side, we're gonna chip you
Speaker 1: this side, we're gonna chip you over here. Oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna play you one on one here. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: was this was very reminiscent of to me, the the
Speaker 1: Cults game in the way that they when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are really good, and we saw this against Seattle, when
Speaker 1: you see white jerseys and you can send you're watching
Speaker 1: the tape and you can see their numbers, When you
Speaker 1: can see the backs of their numbers as they're playing
Speaker 1: run defense, that's that's when you know they're really on it.
Speaker 1: They're playing really well because nobody's moving them, nobody's But
Speaker 1: when you when you don't see the jersey numbers on
Speaker 1: the back end, you're you're saying, Okay, guys are not square,
Speaker 1: guys are turned guys are facing the sidelines. You get
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman shoulders to face the sidelines, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be natural gaps. And you know, Garrett talked about it too,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure when he got talked about two o'clock today,
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk about run fits because they did a
Speaker 1: really poor job. When you talk about vander esh Smith Lee,
Speaker 1: they you know, there were some times where they had
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown down in the box. You know, they play
Speaker 1: a single high. Look, it's just that's how they stopped
Speaker 1: the run. They play single high, put an extra guy
Speaker 1: down the box. And people were asking me, They're like, well,
Speaker 1: could they play their bass defense and helped the run.
Speaker 1: They could have. They could have, Yeah, they could have.
Speaker 1: But they've stopped the run playing single high all year long.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, they're the adjustment they made. There's
Speaker 1: it's hard to make an adjustment when people up front
Speaker 1: are blocking you the way that that the Rams are
Speaker 1: able to block the front in this game, and because
Speaker 1: of the way they did it, it allowed their offensive
Speaker 1: linemen get to the linebackers. I don't doubt, no doubt
Speaker 1: the Cowboy linebackers blocked. So you know what, and it
Speaker 1: was the Colts game. It was the Colts game the
Speaker 1: same thing. They got to the second level absolutely, and
Speaker 1: because they controlled the two outside guys the way Brian said, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're inside guys were getting to the linebackers and that's
Speaker 1: what was creating those big holes. That and a couple
Speaker 1: of times they're shooting the wrong gap and exact he's
Speaker 1: going one way, exactly going the other way. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I thought that was that was huge, the way they
Speaker 1: they controlled that, and it was almost like they were
Speaker 1: telling the Cowboys, well, if you want to stop the run,
Speaker 1: you better go to your four three. You better not
Speaker 1: sit there and nickel, yeah, the whole game, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna run right over you. And that's what they did now, Mickey,
Speaker 1: to your point on the munched formations that the Rams run,
Speaker 1: Will McClay on The Jason Garrett Show, which should be
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I think it's segments on there.
Speaker 1: Uh did a great job illustrating what the Rams do
Speaker 1: on offense, and that's what they do on offense is
Speaker 1: they bunch in their wide receivers type formation formations and
Speaker 1: there's he and he illustrated with several examples about six
Speaker 1: different plays, some run plays, some pass plays. Why they
Speaker 1: do that and how that can can confuse the defense
Speaker 1: and how they well be able to sort things out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they gatter too. I mean that's something too.
Speaker 1: We talked about bunch. What did they do They use
Speaker 1: bunch formation when Todd Gurley when they moved Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: out wide against Green Bay and ran him underneath, what
Speaker 1: did they do? They got bunch formation and then they
Speaker 1: ran everybody inside, creating like you know, traffic and trash
Speaker 1: to have to run through. So yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a good scheme. It really is a good scheme.
Speaker 1: The way that they the way that they get their
Speaker 1: guys down the field, you know, I mean there were
Speaker 1: there were some of the open throws that they were
Speaker 1: able to make were because of some of those routes.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the main reasons they do it.
Speaker 1: It helps out the quarterback when, for instance, if you're
Speaker 1: if the balls on the right hash and you've got
Speaker 1: a tight formation there, and let's say you want to
Speaker 1: throw a flag route Brandon Cooks well on the left
Speaker 1: side over they go the left flag Well, that gives
Speaker 1: so much room for the quarterback that throwout on the
Speaker 1: sideline out there right. Well. And the other thing it
Speaker 1: did is if you look at the Seattle game when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were blitzing you know, they were blitzing vander
Speaker 1: esh off the edge right a lot. Well, when you
Speaker 1: got all that bunch over there, how you gonna you
Speaker 1: can't blitz You're not gonna get through that stuff exactly.
Speaker 1: And so they kind of took that away too, and
Speaker 1: forced the Cowboys into coverage. But again, the bottom line
Speaker 1: was they ran for two hundred and seventy yards three yards,
Speaker 1: two seventy three. Seattle ran for seventy three. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: if you look at all the teams that won, yeah,
Speaker 1: they all ran the football. That's the other thing I
Speaker 1: was talking to all this talk about the you know,
Speaker 1: the scoring, scoring and the big, you know, showtime offenses.
Speaker 1: Kansas City ran for one hundred and eighty yards with
Speaker 1: some guy named Damian Williams Oklahoma sooner. He was like
Speaker 1: a third string running back in the Rams run for
Speaker 1: two seventy three. The Patriots Sony Michelle one twenty night
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns player, and the Saints combined for one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four yards rushing. So go figure say,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia has to be sick. They had that game and control.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let me ask you something real quick about
Speaker 1: that game. And I don't want to. I know we're
Speaker 1: talking cowboys and trying to put it. But was Peterson
Speaker 1: was Doug Pearson? Was he should he have accepted that
Speaker 1: holding call and backed him up and made them run
Speaker 1: another play. I was surprised and I wasn't watching. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: they the kind of holy Pilley, And the first thing
Speaker 1: that came in my mind was, Doug, you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a guy that's just as crazy as you are over there.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go for this, you know. He thought what
Speaker 1: point in the game was that they're down fourteen and
Speaker 1: they're fourteen to nothing. Yeah, they're stopped again. They stopped him.
Speaker 1: They're making them, they're making breezing and punt again and
Speaker 1: at his own like thirty thirty four thirty five, yeah
Speaker 1: yard line. So he's gonna make him. He's got him
Speaker 1: to a point where he's gonna punt. He could have
Speaker 1: accepted a penalty to make it for a third and
Speaker 1: eleven at a third and eleven, but instead he declines
Speaker 1: to Pilley and make it fourth and one. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: goes go for it. I mean, with the way the
Speaker 1: flow of the game was, you knew that Sean Payton
Speaker 1: was gonna go for it. There. He was gonna he
Speaker 1: was gonna some way energize his team good or bat.
Speaker 1: He was gonna try and find a way to do
Speaker 1: something different than what had been happening to them. Kind
Speaker 1: of kind of like the same situation at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: faced with the Rams, however, is a different situation as
Speaker 1: far as the game, because the Rams were in the
Speaker 1: lead and they had an opportunity they it was fourth
Speaker 1: and two, right, and then the Rams out smarted themselves
Speaker 1: faking like they were gonna take fund right and they
Speaker 1: winds up kicking at twenty five yards to the twenty
Speaker 1: five yard line instead. That was a lot of work
Speaker 1: for it. Um. But but yeah, about that Eagles game.
Speaker 1: How about al Sean Jeffrey, who's got just about the
Speaker 1: strongest hands in the league. Yeah, And in fact, just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago he was quoted as saying,
Speaker 1: I've got the best hands in the league and the
Speaker 1: ball goes right through that. Yeah, Well that you know,
Speaker 1: that just shows you though they that was a strange game.
Speaker 1: And I know, again people don't want to hear about
Speaker 1: the Eagles game and all that, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's that just shows you these games come down
Speaker 1: to place. They come down to hands to the face,
Speaker 1: They come down to the third and in the grasp,
Speaker 1: third and seven, you know, I mean, the Rams think
Speaker 1: about this. You know, people were critical and I and
Speaker 1: again I'm one of those guys. It's critical of Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett to a fault, but I also thought that he
Speaker 1: did the right thing of not even though they had
Speaker 1: not stopped them. The right thing was to kick the
Speaker 1: ball deep. It almost played perfectly to his situation. Third
Speaker 1: and said, Jeff, Heath is so locked into the tight end,
Speaker 1: and the tight end is blocking Crawford. You know, Everett
Speaker 1: is blocking, and I'm thinking, I'm just watching them going, Jeff,
Speaker 1: just just be a football play Go go force him
Speaker 1: either a to throw it away, be to get to
Speaker 1: the ground or see you know, maybe you get maybe
Speaker 1: you get the stop right there. You know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I kind of look at that. I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: if they it played out just like it would have
Speaker 1: in the played out in the in the Redskins game
Speaker 1: that time at fed X, What do they do. They
Speaker 1: got to stop, they got the ball back, they drove,
Speaker 1: they win. You know, that's that's kind of the mentality.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, you get to stop here on
Speaker 1: third down and they had a time out left with
Speaker 1: probably a minute thirty to get the ball back with
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin maybe bringing one back to midfield or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean, I think he played it
Speaker 1: the right way there the on site kick. To me,
Speaker 1: the way the rules are with on site kicks, you
Speaker 1: got no shot unless the ball hits somebody and bounces
Speaker 1: around and you get it. He played it the right
Speaker 1: way with the timeouts, the two minute warning, kicking it deep,
Speaker 1: they almost got to stop. I wish Jeff Heath would
Speaker 1: have just seen I wish he would have just seen
Speaker 1: golf coming his direction. He was so locked in on
Speaker 1: on Everett to tight end and the ball got to
Speaker 1: the outside. It was almost like he was looking at
Speaker 1: a ghost, Like if you would just stayed inside so
Speaker 1: long on it. Yeah, it's like, and you're right, it's
Speaker 1: third and seven, yeah, or you've got and even when
Speaker 1: they kicked, you got three timeouts in the two minute warning, right,
Speaker 1: and you're right unless you hit a line drive and
Speaker 1: it bounces off somebody and comes back to you. You're
Speaker 1: not getting the on site no, with the way you
Speaker 1: can sign up now, yeah, because you got you. You
Speaker 1: don't put all the guys on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: You put your whatever you're allowed, and then the other
Speaker 1: second lines there. So even if you chip it over,
Speaker 1: they're gonna catch. He played it the right way and
Speaker 1: it almost worked out. I mean if they just they
Speaker 1: just couldn't get bodies to get to It's like golf
Speaker 1: just decided, I'm just gonna keep running until somebody hits
Speaker 1: me or stop. Nobody was able to force him to
Speaker 1: have to make a decision. And that's the unfortunate we're
Speaker 1: in the In that Redskins game, Jayleen Smith, everybody human,
Speaker 1: they were all flying to the I mean they were flying.
Speaker 1: They were they were in the base defense, and they
Speaker 1: were trying to cover guys up. They had guys covered.
Speaker 1: That's why he had to run the ball. But they
Speaker 1: just couldn't get him to force to have to make
Speaker 1: a decision. And that's because the way they were moving
Speaker 1: the football. If they had stopped him, I think they
Speaker 1: would have had a great Yeah, yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: would have had a shot. I think they would have
Speaker 1: had a shot in this one. And as bad as
Speaker 1: the run defense was in this game, as bad as
Speaker 1: it was, they would have had a shot. As bad
Speaker 1: as the run defenses was, as as average as Goff's
Speaker 1: numbers were they it's a one and as bad as
Speaker 1: it look because they only stopped him twice. And the
Speaker 1: fact that Zeke only had forty seven yards rushing and
Speaker 1: they were to me, that to me was probably the
Speaker 1: most surprising thing going into this football game, is the
Speaker 1: fact that they just the inability, the inability to stop
Speaker 1: the run. But they were, especially when you looked at
Speaker 1: what they were doing on film about the season, they
Speaker 1: were awful. And Trotman even said it, I mean it
Speaker 1: was it was the way they were playing run defense
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Was they were thirty
Speaker 1: second in the league coming in in the regular season
Speaker 1: yards per carry defense, Yeah, rushing yards per carry. And
Speaker 1: you were within one possession of tying the game up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one possession. There's a lot of it looked like a slaughter.
Speaker 1: And then when you know, when I did the post
Speaker 1: the game deal and I said the score, and I said,
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, did I did I make
Speaker 1: him a snap? It was thirty to twenty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, how could have been that close? You
Speaker 1: gave up two hundred and seventy three yards. Oh no,
Speaker 1: they it was. It was It was a strange deal. Again,
Speaker 1: you get that one stop, but there were there were
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that happened. You know, there
Speaker 1: a lot of this in that game. Third some third
Speaker 1: down players on offense that you know, the Maury Cooper
Speaker 1: they had exactly what they wanted with that crossing round
Speaker 1: on third down. Amari Cooper's on Mark Baron and the
Speaker 1: ball he just gets his hands up late. I mean
Speaker 1: it was a catchable pass. He just his hands were
Speaker 1: laid to adjust. You could see it from the end
Speaker 1: zone copy clear that he did. He just was late
Speaker 1: with his hands. He catches that ball. That ball is
Speaker 1: gonna be in Ram's territory, you know, with them having
Speaker 1: to try and react. And that's just the way things
Speaker 1: have kind of gone for this team. You know, when
Speaker 1: they when they needed a play like that, they just
Speaker 1: could not execute well enough to make it happen. The
Speaker 1: fourth down play too, was you know, they had to
Speaker 1: go for it so many times on fourth down and
Speaker 1: you know that really the bread and butter is, you know,
Speaker 1: just take the ball, go straight ahead and let Zeke
Speaker 1: be the guy. Hell, they blasted them out of they're
Speaker 1: on the goal line doing say, that's what everybody criticized,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, it was the same play they
Speaker 1: used on the goal line twice. Yeah, and they score.
Speaker 1: I mean, they blasted that thing open and it just didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, but you're running at Sue, You're running it.
Speaker 1: You know, you're running at Donald. These guys are. You know,
Speaker 1: there's power, there's quickness. You know, if they if they
Speaker 1: swim you, you're you know, you're in trouble. You know.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of things going on there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just it's a shame that the one thing that
Speaker 1: this the Cowboy teams, I felt like they could always
Speaker 1: do was the bill to kind of run the football,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't materialize well enough for the Rams.
Speaker 1: The Rams took your game plan and won the game
Speaker 1: with what you should have been able to do. Dak
Speaker 1: playing with you know, good numbers like golf, run the football,
Speaker 1: play some defense, and then you know you're on your
Speaker 1: way to New Orleans. Because it looked like they won
Speaker 1: their bet stopping the run. But the reason why, and
Speaker 1: I had written it down, they had like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had more twenty yard or more plays than they did.
Speaker 1: The reason was is they stayed in their base defense
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys went three wide and it said we're
Speaker 1: stopping the run. Yeah, and that's why they were able
Speaker 1: to come up with those big plays they did down
Speaker 1: the field. And to your point, Mickey, about teams running
Speaker 1: the football in the playoffs and having success this weekend,
Speaker 1: that's another thing Will McClay was talking to me about
Speaker 1: last week with we were talking about the Kingsbury Hire
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and you know, the emphasis on hiring the quarterback,
Speaker 1: whisperer type coaches and so forth. What wins in this
Speaker 1: league is if you look at the teams that are
Speaker 1: successful in playing right now, they have the ability to
Speaker 1: run the football and for that matter, they can stop
Speaker 1: the run. The four teams left, all right, The Patriots
Speaker 1: are fifth in the league and rushing and they're fourth
Speaker 1: in the league and rushing touchdowns. The Chiefs are just
Speaker 1: sixteenth in the league and rushing, but they're seventh in
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. The Rams third in the league and rushing,
Speaker 1: second in rushing touchdowns and the Saints sixth in the
Speaker 1: league and rushing first in rushing touchdowns. There you go,
Speaker 1: There you go, Damian Williams. That's all I got. And
Speaker 1: by the way, those four teams, C. J. Anderson, Those
Speaker 1: those four teams, CJ. Anderson. Those four teams are also
Speaker 1: the top four scoring teams in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But they're not doing it just through the air. They're
Speaker 1: doing it with a combat balance. Yeah, exactly. All right.
Speaker 1: We continue and rub it in our face a little
Speaker 1: bit this morning with that ball cap. You got, what
Speaker 1: do you got on there? Oh? That's ready for the
Speaker 1: bills going later. One of us is headed there a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, all right, there is. Yeah, there
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Speaker 1: Rob was away at the outset of the show because
Speaker 1: he was working, right, Rob Phillips breaking news as you
Speaker 1: tease so eloquently before the first time. Maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: have was quick draw fly of Bill. Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I was adjusting. I was adjusting. Did you wear your
Speaker 1: quick draw fly on Saturday with your Cowboys on logo
Speaker 1: on it? Yeah? I went with that route too, so
Speaker 1: much for that. You know what, with the accommodations we
Speaker 1: had in that press box, you needed that quick draw
Speaker 1: It was It was great, wasn't it. Yeah? That's right.
Speaker 1: Coliseum does not have much in the way now the
Speaker 1: facilities for the homemade press box port port of John's
Speaker 1: out in the aisle. It's a little challenging from a
Speaker 1: viewpoint perspective. It's like looking through the windows of a
Speaker 1: house actually with the window panes. It's an interesting setup
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, but they're working through it, you know,
Speaker 1: doing the best they can. You know. Went and by
Speaker 1: the way, when everybody made it, they were And I
Speaker 1: forgot to mention it when I did my deal on
Speaker 1: the fan. They were making a big deal that Jerry
Speaker 1: didn't conduct his postgame press conference. There's no way for
Speaker 1: him to get there in time to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the only way from where we're at to the
Speaker 1: press to the tunnel. It's the worst state walk world
Speaker 1: down ninety rows of stands while everybody else is coming up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so if you don't leave before the game's like
Speaker 1: way over. Yeah, Jared Bell and I were swimming downstream
Speaker 1: would everybody coming upstream, And it was one step at
Speaker 1: a time, about every minute, trying to get people to
Speaker 1: move so we could walk. So there's no elevator for
Speaker 1: no elevator and an elevator. That's where Ambar and I
Speaker 1: got trapped in a preseason game. We had to walk
Speaker 1: from down and then walk all the way back up
Speaker 1: as the Ram mascot was taking pictures and signing autographs
Speaker 1: in front of us. The whole so good. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get there. You would have to stack. He walked to
Speaker 1: the top of the stadium all the way down, and
Speaker 1: then if you have to come back up, you walk
Speaker 1: all the way back up. It's it's it's see what
Speaker 1: I forgot was back in the day when you did it,
Speaker 1: you could walk your typewriter. No, you could walk down
Speaker 1: the on the on the seats like they were bench.
Speaker 1: So when people were leaving, you just kept going down.
Speaker 1: Now they got actual seats in there. It's see at
Speaker 1: our seats. It's so cool to see a game. There's work,
Speaker 1: there's so much history there. But logistically and tonightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except for us. We park We figured out how to
Speaker 1: park at that place. We did. I did a couple
Speaker 1: of years, got that down. Yeah, we got good parking there.
Speaker 1: I remember parking garage across the show. That's kind of
Speaker 1: where you go. Yeah, well, I covered a Raiders playoff
Speaker 1: game there. Not good. I had no parking pass and
Speaker 1: I parked about five blocks away and there was a
Speaker 1: sign it said number. It was a hashtag number thirty
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, that's parking lot thirty right, No,
Speaker 1: it was thirty dollars and back in the day that
Speaker 1: was like a lot. Yeah, and I had to walk
Speaker 1: five blocks. So when the game's over, you finished writing,
Speaker 1: it's pitch dark and I'm walking and the guy's coming
Speaker 1: out of the press box where are you going? And
Speaker 1: I go, oh, I didn't have a parking pass. I'm
Speaker 1: walking to my cards. Well, no, we'll give you a ride.
Speaker 1: I said, no, it's just they go no, we will
Speaker 1: give you a ride. I said, oh, okay, maybe I
Speaker 1: better take a ride going. But you know what the
Speaker 1: neighborhood has changed. They've got condos up around now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't recognize it. A new soccer stadium, yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful stadium. Yeah, just down the road. It's
Speaker 1: right like next door. Yeah. But yeah, as for the
Speaker 1: facilities inside there, there would And I forgot. So the
Speaker 1: owner's box was basically what we were in. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was just a trailer. Yes, that's the owner's box. So
Speaker 1: if he stayed till the last there was no way
Speaker 1: he'd make it down there. Yeah, I mean they brought
Speaker 1: I don't know if you mentioned this, but they did
Speaker 1: this in preseason games too in the past. That's ninety players,
Speaker 1: even with fifty three or forty six, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: they bring the players out to you in the tunnel
Speaker 1: instead of an actual open lockroom session because the locker
Speaker 1: room's just not big enough for it. Well, all the
Speaker 1: equipment people are trying to move their stuff through and
Speaker 1: yelling at us to move. As Dave said, it's all
Speaker 1: about perspective. It was a you know, that was a
Speaker 1: great atmosphere. That's that's I've never experienced a pregame atmosphere
Speaker 1: quite like that. And I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: just the vibe the amount of Cowboy fans there. It
Speaker 1: felt for a while like they were invading that stadium
Speaker 1: and you really had the feeling like they were gonna
Speaker 1: feel at home at this game. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: about like Texas U style and the Cotton Bowl. But
Speaker 1: those Rams fans filled in pretty nicely by the end
Speaker 1: of it. But that was that was a hell of
Speaker 1: an atmosphere. Just didn't work out for this team. So
Speaker 1: what was the split? You think once the game got going.
Speaker 1: I think by the end of it, when we went
Speaker 1: down on the field, it felt like it was eighty
Speaker 1: twenty or seventy thirty something. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: yellow towels waving in that. Yeah, but the cowboy fans
Speaker 1: started waving their yellow towels, did they? Yeah? Because didn't
Speaker 1: you notice that makes sense? The first two possessions when
Speaker 1: the Rams had the ball, I go, why is there
Speaker 1: so much noise? And and and people were waving their towels.
Speaker 1: And then I looked and it was like Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: were waving the yellow towels like the Rams were trying
Speaker 1: to call signals. I missed that. What happened? Uh? Can't
Speaker 1: just dropped in an old and yellow? Yeah? What do
Speaker 1: you mean yellow? An old? What's the old inside? Never mind?
Speaker 1: He can't hear ken't that's the problem. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a good drop. Yeah it was. You don't want to
Speaker 1: tell me? No, I didn't really hear what was that was?
Speaker 1: Talking about the breaking news that you got? You want
Speaker 1: to read your story? No, it's not gonna be much
Speaker 1: different than anybody else. Rob just wrote the story. And
Speaker 1: that's why I missed the first segment of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want me to read it on the air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do it. And we got a little voice we got
Speaker 1: off on a tangent voice, Captain Luck. No, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I'll Petry Bumpkin. I'll do it in a Wade Phillips voice.
Speaker 1: You go ahead, speaking Monday on one Old five. Not Wade,
Speaker 1: but all right, I'll do it my speaking Monday on
Speaker 1: one Old five, three the Fan. The Cowboys head coach
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said he expects offensive coordinator Scott Lanahan to
Speaker 1: return in twenty nineteen. There it is. There you go,
Speaker 1: breaking news straight from the flagships from Garrett. We don't
Speaker 1: anticipate any major changes on our staff. What was the
Speaker 1: last line of the story? Is there a last line?
Speaker 1: Well added? And then okay, adding that the team is
Speaker 1: still in evaluation mode less than two days after its
Speaker 1: divisional round playoff loss to the ram I think Rob
Speaker 1: put it very well there. Yeah, that's that's got to
Speaker 1: be noted, right, absolutely has to be noted because you
Speaker 1: never know when somebody finds another job. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: See that's where I think that to me, the the
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Jason Garrett when you know
Speaker 1: he's always been really consistent about you know, he'll give
Speaker 1: you the answer, you know, asked the question. But right
Speaker 1: now you don't know. I mean, they got to sit
Speaker 1: down and continue the evaluation. If in fact, you know,
Speaker 1: we get to the Pro Bowl and all that, and
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan is still coaching, you know, next week, next week.
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of expecting those guys to
Speaker 1: be with me next week at the Senior Bowl. But
Speaker 1: now they get to co coach the Pro Bowl. But
Speaker 1: if they haven't made any decisions or any changes by
Speaker 1: next week, then you know he's going to come back.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett madam his word. But I just don't think
Speaker 1: he can answer that question at that particular time. You know,
Speaker 1: I just don't I think that there's I think there's
Speaker 1: still evaluation there. I really really do. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like when Jerry's asked, what's he gonna say new weeks ago? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak Press got your guy for the future. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean he says yes, and I believe him when he
Speaker 1: says it, But well, yeah, what's he supposed to say
Speaker 1: on the spot like that? Yeah? Yeah, If if in
Speaker 1: fact we get to we get to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: next week and Scott Linehan's coaching him up, then that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of what's happening. Yeah, He's gonna
Speaker 1: make headlines either way. Right, if he said says what
Speaker 1: he said, he's making headlines because he's said that he
Speaker 1: expects him back. Yeah, well, he's under contract, Okay, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, if he said that, if he if he
Speaker 1: didn't say, if he the question was posed to you
Speaker 1: expect Scott land a hand to be back. It's under contract.
Speaker 1: And if he said we're in evaluation mode, that's making headlines.
Speaker 1: That's a huge he took. He took the path of
Speaker 1: least resistance, is what he did. You know, just say
Speaker 1: he's back, and if they make a if they make
Speaker 1: a coaching change in the next three or four days,
Speaker 1: then somebody here will break it. Rob Phillips will break it,
Speaker 1: Mickey will break it. Somebody will break it, you know.
Speaker 1: But until then, I mean again, if he's if he's
Speaker 1: out there coaching and the Senior the Axcumean, the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl practices, but then you know, you got your answer.
Speaker 1: But until then, I think we kind of have to
Speaker 1: just let the evaluation process take I think it's a
Speaker 1: good story, Rob, I didn't think it was a bag
Speaker 1: of a thank you man. Well, I mean, look, and
Speaker 1: he's always he's been consistent. I mean he's back Scot
Speaker 1: absolutely for years now. Yeah, I mean every time they
Speaker 1: lose a game to get back, it's you know, he comes.
Speaker 1: Scott is probably the first guy under fire, even beyond Jason,
Speaker 1: when they lose a game or they struggle offensively, and
Speaker 1: DA's probably in that mix too. Um, And I looked
Speaker 1: up the stats. You know, it's it's really a tale
Speaker 1: of two halves of the season. Pria mari Posta Marii
Speaker 1: and before they made the trade, the first eight games,
Speaker 1: I think they were twenty eighth, and total offense they
Speaker 1: rose to about twenty second, and clearly they were a
Speaker 1: more functional group, a more efficient group with with Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper in the lineup. So, like Brian says, it's about
Speaker 1: players too. Yeah, it's about getting guys that can help
Speaker 1: execute what you're trying to do. Absolutely. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, Um, I guess the Dolphins news
Speaker 1: broke since we were last on the air. At least
Speaker 1: the speculation is that, yeah, from the Patriots staff is
Speaker 1: in line to get that job. That's who they're targeted.
Speaker 1: It hadn't been official, officially done yet, but that and
Speaker 1: of course the Jets have done their thing. The Bucks
Speaker 1: have done their thing with arians, and so Chris Richard
Speaker 1: appears will be back, and uh, we're y'all around. Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli when he was asked about the thing, it was
Speaker 1: a terrible question. I was, yeah, got there just about
Speaker 1: when it started. I didn't hear how the question was asked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I heard the answer asking about him retiring as
Speaker 1: a terrible question, you know. And I guess it's reports
Speaker 1: from from Ian Rappaport that he's going to retire and
Speaker 1: all that. And oh he said he was going to
Speaker 1: be named the senior defensive advisor and they were going
Speaker 1: to promote Richard to defensive coordinator. Okay, well, I thought
Speaker 1: it was he mentioned the word retirement though too. It's
Speaker 1: something about these answer. Marinelli said something to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, if it's been Marinelli think the question
Speaker 1: was asked very well. No, I don't at the right time.
Speaker 1: I don't think the question was. And I love Kate
Speaker 1: and I love her trying to get you know, answers
Speaker 1: the questions. But you know, the guy, I mean, his
Speaker 1: defense got shredded. You know, that's just a terrible time time.
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about run fits or why
Speaker 1: they didn't play well or what was their thoughts? By
Speaker 1: all means fairy game. But to ask a man about
Speaker 1: you know, is this it? Are you done? You're retiring?
Speaker 1: All that? That's a terrible question because he stood up
Speaker 1: there a lot of times and been very honest about
Speaker 1: giving you answers, give you some of the some of
Speaker 1: the best answers you get from a coaching perspective of
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli's answers. How honest he is about the players,
Speaker 1: how honest he is about the opponents, how honest he
Speaker 1: is about his own team. You know, I get on
Speaker 1: us about this. We asked terrible questions. We asked terrible questions,
Speaker 1: and you wonder why these folks don't want to talk
Speaker 1: to us. You don't want they don't want to be
Speaker 1: around us. And seeing the other thing you gotta take
Speaker 1: also with a grain assault as these reports on pregame
Speaker 1: shows on game day, Yes, because everybody's got to come
Speaker 1: up with something, yeah, And if somebody comes up with something,
Speaker 1: then the other station's got to trump them with something else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just don't kind of the way it works. And
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful because the pressure is on those
Speaker 1: guys to come up with something, and if they don't,
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, well that guy had this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's the wrong it's the wrong timing
Speaker 1: for question. Ask him why they lost that game, and
Speaker 1: he will stand there all day and tell you why
Speaker 1: they didn't play well enough. And you know what, and
Speaker 1: Richard did the same thing exactly. He stood there and
Speaker 1: took the blame poor stationed by the players and the coaches.
Speaker 1: He said, it's on me. Yeah, he put it on him,
Speaker 1: see to ask better questions. However, Scott Rod has been
Speaker 1: so supportive of Chris throughout this whole season and giving
Speaker 1: him that responsibility to share that play calling and probably
Speaker 1: do with the majority of it. It seems like at times,
Speaker 1: just like he did with Matt eberflu So, I don't
Speaker 1: know how it's going to work out, but he's such
Speaker 1: a competitive guy in that moment, that's the last thing
Speaker 1: he's thinking about. And that's why that answer was what
Speaker 1: it was. Don't blame him, Yeah, don't blame him at all,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like before the game and I
Speaker 1: don't know how I would be, but you know, they
Speaker 1: it's like Rod's on the sideline while we're down there.
Speaker 1: It's two hours before kickoff, and I'm thinking, if that
Speaker 1: was me, I don't want to talk to nobody, right,
Speaker 1: he always does. But he comes up. He goes, great
Speaker 1: atmosphere here, and I go, yeah, I said, well, you've
Speaker 1: you've spent some time in this stadium. And he tells
Speaker 1: me about his senior year in high school when they
Speaker 1: played the North South All Star Game, which was the
Speaker 1: big game in California, and he played it in against
Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini. Yeah right, And it's like, gosh, but you know,
Speaker 1: and that's him. So how many years ago with that
Speaker 1: a bit it was I think he told me it
Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty nine. Maybe, well he's sixty nine years
Speaker 1: old now, yeah, so years old. Yeah, yeah, And and
Speaker 1: Hud was telling me about how they won a national
Speaker 1: championship at Southern cal in nineteen sixty two. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: that stadium football lifers. Man, Well that's the thing about it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, just that's well, and here's here's
Speaker 1: the other thing. To do that to him in that atmosphere.
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible atmosphere also, with everybody jammed
Speaker 1: up outside around this wall and just took a bad loss.
Speaker 1: Your defense, you're you know, this, this defense that that
Speaker 1: we coming out of Oxnard, that Brian brought us thought
Speaker 1: was a question mark end up being the thing you
Speaker 1: can hang your hat on, and it was, you know,
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna they're gonna. The only time that
Speaker 1: this team has seemed to have really played bad lost
Speaker 1: games was because of defense. But for the more majority
Speaker 1: of the season, they've been outstanding. Coverage, run, defense, coaching,
Speaker 1: whatever you have to say, this defense has been outstanding.
Speaker 1: What did I write on my gut feeling in defense?
Speaker 1: We trust We're gonna make a new coin. If you
Speaker 1: that's that's what it was gonna take. You were gonna
Speaker 1: have to find a way. Whether it was against the
Speaker 1: Rams or the or the Saints, you were gonna have
Speaker 1: to play against some pretty good offensive teams, you know.
Speaker 1: And who's a better team guy than Rod Marinelli. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about what Rob was mentioning about with Richard
Speaker 1: coming in, and he did it with Ebraflus two, given
Speaker 1: them the freedom to improve the defense and the other
Speaker 1: part of it. With In terms of Richard, I mean,
Speaker 1: the way the rules work in the NFL, the only
Speaker 1: way he's leaving is for a head coaching job that
Speaker 1: doesn't look likely now, like the Dolphins have centered on
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, and I think the only other opening is
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Zach Taylor's going there. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. So you don't have to
Speaker 1: promote him to quote unquote defensive coordinator to keep him
Speaker 1: from another job, right, So, I mean you can make
Speaker 1: it work the way it is right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to do whatever with titles and stuff, great,
Speaker 1: But I mean obviously here in Rod Marinelli after that
Speaker 1: game at sixty nine years old, he's got a whole
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of coaching left in him. He's
Speaker 1: certainly got enough fire in him. And we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But like Chris Rochard's tied, isn't affecting him from getting
Speaker 1: head coaching, That's what I'm saying. So, and Rod was
Speaker 1: talking about this during the week, how he believes in
Speaker 1: molding young coaches and trying to you know, empower those
Speaker 1: guys and allow them to position themselves to be able
Speaker 1: to move on and get those opposite teacher, but he is,
Speaker 1: he's a teacher, very serious, is a teacher. Quote was
Speaker 1: he goes Christopher Sard's a head coach. They just haven't
Speaker 1: hired him yet. I did say that. Yep, right, all right,
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Speaker 1: versus Marcus Peters as a prelimb March sixteenth. I love it.
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Speaker 1: Mark Amari. He's got some dog and him. I like
Speaker 1: that about him. Yeah, He's like, yeah, he's got It's
Speaker 1: still to me, it's you look at what how the
Speaker 1: season went, you know, the the resource that they used
Speaker 1: to go get him, that was absolutely the right play,
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's it's the twenty seventh pick.
Speaker 1: I can only probably find nineteen first round grades. So
Speaker 1: if you're telling me I'm given a second round pick
Speaker 1: for a Marii Cooper or a great a player on
Speaker 1: the board that's got second round ability, all right, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll absolutely do that all day long. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go through a bunch of wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. If I look at a Maury Cooper
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old and what he's accomplished is
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of these other wide receivers, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. Please give me a Maury Cooper, you know.
Speaker 1: And if they hadn't made the trade, if we're sitting
Speaker 1: here right now saying what's the biggest need on this roster? Sure,
Speaker 1: wide receiver? We have been talking about that two weeks ago. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been in the playoffs and have been
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yeah, you know what I mean. No, No,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, You're absolutely right. You know. That's
Speaker 1: the thing about it is I you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: they've got it. They're gonna have an interesting offseason as
Speaker 1: far as you know the signings and how they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, and all that. But I trust I trust
Speaker 1: these guys draft in football players. Yeah, I really really do,
Speaker 1: even though even though that their first pick will be
Speaker 1: at fifty eight and we don't know that. You never know,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones might jump in there and get the bottom
Speaker 1: of the draft and say, you know what I'm I'll
Speaker 1: jump back in. I'll give next years one he'll do something.
Speaker 1: You know. They really love a guy, Yeah, they really
Speaker 1: love a guy. But if you're telling me at twenty seven,
Speaker 1: I got to pick a guy that's better than the
Speaker 1: guy just got. That's that I've seen play well, help
Speaker 1: me win games, got me in the divisional round, the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That's a no brainer to me. I might, I might
Speaker 1: be a dumb personnel guy, but I'm not that dumb.
Speaker 1: You know, Draft show coming up Thursday, Thursday, and we
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl next week. Let's start Monday.
Speaker 1: I'll be out Monday Monday to all next week. So
Speaker 1: if you guys are doing shows, it'll be me do
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. But I'm sure you guys will
Speaker 1: handle that the best you can. But yeah, we'll get
Speaker 1: started when this will you know, and the draft never stops.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're gonna get some picks, they're
Speaker 1: gonna get an opportunity to make their team better. There's
Speaker 1: a free way of doing it, you know, So by
Speaker 1: all means, let's talk about it. Well, we'll accept your
Speaker 1: collect call. I don't anybody make a collect call if
Speaker 1: you're in jail. If you're in jail, you're calling collect.
Speaker 1: I think I've been in jail. The only guy here's
Speaker 1: been in jail. That's that's that's the line. I'm the
Speaker 1: only guy here it's been in jail. Yeah. So anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well, yeah, the off season's always Hey, it's off season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Now, you kind of get you
Speaker 1: get your team together. It's the best drop we got.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's not the actually the Miles Austin
Speaker 1: that one too, Thank you, Miles. Okay, that wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go absolutely every time. And today is deadline day
Speaker 1: for the underclassmen to declare. What do you think it's
Speaker 1: happening in Oklahoma? Yeah, what's your quarterback in the I
Speaker 1: think he's declaring he wants fifteen million from the A's.
Speaker 1: That right, I think the A's are gonna give it
Speaker 1: to him. I don't I'm not sure that that's true.
Speaker 1: It's too high. I think that inflated got thrown out there,
Speaker 1: and I don't it's others have said that's not true. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know one thing about that. And we're talking
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray. The rules on the supplemental draft, But
Speaker 1: could he go play with the report for spring training?
Speaker 1: Go with the a's through in play a base half
Speaker 1: a season baseball and spent drafts in July. Now you're
Speaker 1: going down Ken you declare YEA, and what are the circumstances.
Speaker 1: It's usually post it's usually post draft that that happened, right,
Speaker 1: and we get into like May, and then we the
Speaker 1: rules change on that, the date changes on that. It's
Speaker 1: depending on who's in. Let's just say that, think you can.
Speaker 1: I think you could qualify that. I'm not conserning. I've
Speaker 1: never had to deal with a I don't remember a
Speaker 1: baseball I don't remember a baseball player. Let's say okay,
Speaker 1: Let's say he doesn't declare today, he goes and plays baseball,
Speaker 1: and then he would have the option of returning to
Speaker 1: OU for his senior year if once okay, or the
Speaker 1: other option is okay, he's playing baseball, declare make himself
Speaker 1: available for the supplemental draft, and I'm sure a team
Speaker 1: could take him if if he doesn't like the quarterback
Speaker 1: needy teams right now yeah okay, and doesn't want to
Speaker 1: go to those places, but he feels like there is
Speaker 1: a team that would be willing to spend a first
Speaker 1: round pick in first round money in the supplementary balls,
Speaker 1: you know, like, for instance, let's say the Saints. Let's
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton likes him whatever, and he did that,
Speaker 1: then that would be a way to do his baseball
Speaker 1: thing and still whatever. Anyway, I just hasn't been mentioned,
Speaker 1: and so I thought i'd throw it out there. I
Speaker 1: know we haven't. Okay, just real quick, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to make this the draft show. But where does
Speaker 1: where do you see him being selected? Just right now?
Speaker 1: Where would you guess at what point in the draft
Speaker 1: would you be would see him being selected. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he would be that high given his size. But
Speaker 1: when I hear rumors of old Kingsbury might want him
Speaker 1: at Arizona and take him high in the draft like
Speaker 1: number one if they had the pick, didn't somebody say
Speaker 1: that he said that when he was at Tech. When
Speaker 1: he was at Tech, Yeah, he didn't know yet he
Speaker 1: wasn't coaching job. Yeah, he wasn't coaching Josh Rosen yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I don't see him as a first round pick.
Speaker 1: Me personally, he's an aggie. I got nothing against the guy.
Speaker 1: I got nothing nothing against See. How about a guy
Speaker 1: like John Gruden with three first round picks. You see
Speaker 1: him like getting picked at twenty four mazel picked. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say that. Okay, I don't see him being a
Speaker 1: top ten picky. But that's a masket depending on where
Speaker 1: you see him. That's where he could say, if people
Speaker 1: see me as a top ten pick, I'm in I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm gonna play football. If he's not a top
Speaker 1: ten pick, then now you know where does he look
Speaker 1: at himself? Then? And then you're looking at the money
Speaker 1: aspect of that absolutely critical past. Yes, yes, well I
Speaker 1: think the money is the ultimately ultimate decision, right because
Speaker 1: baseball I don't think I mean guaranteed baseball player guaranteed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's so far down the road, it's it's like
Speaker 1: boil in the minor league three or four years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's three years until you even get to the major league?
Speaker 1: How many years you have to wait to get paid.
Speaker 1: It's like Dak Prescott same, you're waiting if you're if
Speaker 1: your first round pick, they could even they could even
Speaker 1: carry you another year because you're you know, if your option.
Speaker 1: That's right? Plus baseball? I mean he's good, right, but
Speaker 1: how many I don't know how good he is in baseball?
Speaker 1: You know? Lead off? We have a better idea, We
Speaker 1: have a better idea what kind of NFL player he
Speaker 1: can be than what kind of Major League Baseball player?
Speaker 1: Obviously Billy Bean in Oakland thinks he could damn play baseball.
Speaker 1: He took him ninth overall. Yeah, but I watched money Ball.
Speaker 1: But how do these guys? How many first round picks
Speaker 1: make it in baseball? There are? I mean no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not the same as football bats. And how about
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel and how no, No, what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: how many even make it to major leagues? Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 1: Two eighty hitting center fielder with no power. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Ken in Shreveport, Ken, how are you I'm playing for?
Speaker 1: How about you? Guys? Great? To my call? I got
Speaker 1: a circle question number one? I had heard you think
Speaker 1: lately on Pravis Frederick, how's his health looking? At going
Speaker 1: into next year should be fine with the government of
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. I'm wondering what the status is on Karrence Williams.
Speaker 1: And also in the game Saturday night, I don't remember
Speaker 1: seeing Damien Wilson. Was he not playing? They played, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't play, but the last player of the game,
Speaker 1: they played Bass. Basically they played Nickel the whole game
Speaker 1: is what they did. So Damian Wilson, yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 1: in until the last basically the last player of the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: because the other question I have is this, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the team and staid of going into the next year,
Speaker 1: what kind of weaknesses do you think we have and
Speaker 1: who do you think will or what do you think
Speaker 1: we will address in the draft? And also frets and
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. Got twos left in the show.
Speaker 1: All right, So fred Frederick you I think Frederick is
Speaker 1: gonna You know, Frederick has come out and basically said it,
Speaker 1: other than his conditioning, he feels pretty good about the
Speaker 1: where he's at, so hopefully that would be a good
Speaker 1: positive thing for him. As far as what you need
Speaker 1: to address, you know, it depends on who you lose.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose they are they gonna do they franchise?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna get a deal done with Lawrence? Anybody
Speaker 1: want to anybody want to hedge a bet right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think they will, Mickey, I think they do. Okay,
Speaker 1: Then that takes care of the defensive end spot. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at tidy end? You're happy
Speaker 1: with all three of the tight ends you got, It's
Speaker 1: something i'd look at. Okay, we're gonna think about drafting
Speaker 1: to tide end. What about safety? You guys happy with
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath the way he played or any of those
Speaker 1: other guys not in the first round? Okay, then we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a first round No, no, looking at a
Speaker 1: safety right there? Then how about defensive tackle? Got the
Speaker 1: human log you know we've got to You're not gonna
Speaker 1: probably have David Irving this this campaign, like you didn't
Speaker 1: have him this year. I'll take I'll take some competition there. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at a defensive tackle there. How about
Speaker 1: about back up running back? Yes, yes, okay, they were
Speaker 1: looking now we were looking strongly at a running How
Speaker 1: about a slot receiver? That's another I went cold. Beasley
Speaker 1: free agent Cole Beast is going to be a free agent.
Speaker 1: I think colebas is coming back here. But even going forward,
Speaker 1: even if Cole Beasley came back, still I have a need.
Speaker 1: Or how about offensive tackle? You're happy with you? You
Speaker 1: worried a little bit about Tyrant Smith in his health?
Speaker 1: Are you worried about the contract in a couple of
Speaker 1: years of Lyle Collins. I would look at depth at
Speaker 1: that position. Oh my gosh, we're looking at a lot
Speaker 1: of things, guys. Mm. Yeah, I tried to answer the
Speaker 1: man's question there. I think how about linebacker? How about yeah,
Speaker 1: how about linebacker? Absolutely? Aman Wilson's a free agent, isn't he? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about Sean Lee and John Lee. I
Speaker 1: think I think Sean Lee. I think that decision is
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to be make too. Maybe Sean Lee
Speaker 1: will make that decision for you. M you know, but I,
Speaker 1: like I said, you can go a you could go
Speaker 1: a thousand different ways here, depending on every position on
Speaker 1: the roster. Every position. Yeah, especially I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Let's not sleep on that backup running back thing, by
Speaker 1: the ways, right, that might have held your hostage a
Speaker 1: little bit. Look at what the Rams did well. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they picked that guy. Happen four weeks ago, five weeks ago.
Speaker 1: What a great store Saints have. Look at what the
Speaker 1: Patriots have running back, I mean, safety, d tackle. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean everybody on periscope is kind of dancing with
Speaker 1: us right now. Smart fans, kicker, kickers and other things.
Speaker 1: There you go. Ye see, there's so many different way
Speaker 1: this team is far from being set. And if you
Speaker 1: tell me that the biggest one, the biggest thing I
Speaker 1: have to do is get Lawrence done. And I've got
Speaker 1: that done. I'm in. Let's go all right. Now, we'll
Speaker 1: figure about drafted. Maybe I could get maybe, maybe I
Speaker 1: call that guy out there in the Pacific Northwest and say, listen,
Speaker 1: this is what I got in for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. If he says no, then
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. There's a safety at Delaware I really
Speaker 1: liked too. I've already seen. You know, there's guys out there.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of major free agent decisions
Speaker 1: to make. I think three four starters. Beasley's one, obviously Lawrence.
Speaker 1: I think Beasley walks. But they've got they've they've got
Speaker 1: a lot of spots where they say we can improve here,
Speaker 1: we could look at doing this here. There's no question
Speaker 1: question even though it's a young team where they feel
Speaker 1: good about a lot of young players. Yep, you know what.
Speaker 1: Every team can do that, and especially if you're eliminated.
Speaker 1: When this team was eliminated, right, yeah, I bet the
Speaker 1: Saints will sit there in three weeks and go, we
Speaker 1: you know, we couldn't the thud, Nick, it's we that
Speaker 1: I know. It's the thud. You're running nine hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour and you hit the wall and you thud,
Speaker 1: and everybody says, oh, oh God, get rid of this.
Speaker 1: Do this to you know, No, you systematically find a
Speaker 1: way with a plan to figure this out. And MC
Speaker 1: caller said something about Terrence Williams. Terrence Williams is gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's got another year left technically on
Speaker 1: his deal. Yeah, I think yeah, But technically he's a
Speaker 1: good Let me tell you what, this receiving corps might
Speaker 1: not be bad. If the four guys you run out
Speaker 1: there are are going to be is guaranteed money's done. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: But I think about the four guys. If you run
Speaker 1: out Cooper, you run out there, gallop, you run out
Speaker 1: Brown and you run out I'm on you. What my guy,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, Guy, Cedric Wilson, don't sleep on Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: because I think he's a better Alan Hearns. Alan Hearns
Speaker 1: is a tough s ob. I'm not saying broke his ankle,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying Alan Hearns never once complained, never you
Speaker 1: did everything he had to do, made a player to
Speaker 1: a game. Give me that guy too. Tavon's a free
Speaker 1: agent too. Yeah, y, this receiving corp might it's not
Speaker 1: going to be a committee next year. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: legitimate guy's plan. Get ready for that, and hopefully that
Speaker 1: will help the quarterback and hopefully the runner. We got
Speaker 1: to get the runner some help, you know. So he
Speaker 1: kind of became that at the end of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah. Would you dare draft a fullback?
Speaker 1: Moves round? Yeah? I'm is there a fullback? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say there's probably none of there's a defensive end
Speaker 1: that will convert. I look at cornerback too, corn nerf back?
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