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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. So now what Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another week of Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones with Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us Mickey Spagnola just derived from his local radio gig.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. We hope will be along and he will

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Speaker 1: be doing doing some work right now. And how y'all

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Speaker 1: do you guys doing on a Monday morning? Doing well?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? I used to, you know, complete the autopsy

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Speaker 1: and find out what happened and then you move on,

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Speaker 1: and that's we talked about. There you go, Garri said,

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with a little Simon Garfunkle this morning. It

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Speaker 1: is kind of sad when a season end. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: it's we talked about. This is and again I always

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid to use this word because I don't think

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Speaker 1: I use it the right way. Finality of it all that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it comes to an end, it comes to

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Speaker 1: an abrupt end. It's it's my racing analogy of going

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventeen miles an hour at the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Motor Speedway and then hitting the wall and you stop,

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Speaker 1: you know, and your and your suddenness to it, and

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Speaker 1: you're shaken and you're kind of dazed, and you're you're

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Speaker 1: kind of looking, you know, to Okay, what's next. And

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Speaker 1: you know this, Uh, this football team has a lot

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Speaker 1: to be proud of the way they play, the way

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Speaker 1: they they a young team came together under some really

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Speaker 1: trying circumstances. But you know that the thing about you know,

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Speaker 1: you you got to you placed the team team that

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Speaker 1: is h that did a really great job of blocking

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Speaker 1: your front. They took away one of your strengths and

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Speaker 1: they kind of played how you needed to play against

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Speaker 1: them to win that football game. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: really what I learned about it watching that tape. Mickey

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Speaker 1: decided to take his headsets off. Yeah they're not working,

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Speaker 1: So I thought i'd listened with you had the dead

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Speaker 1: set on. Yeah. Absolutely, I think Brian was exactly right. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the strengths we thought the Cowboys had running

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Speaker 1: the ball and stopping the run ended up being their detriment.

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Speaker 1: In that game, and hate credit the Rams absolutely there too.

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Speaker 1: They were you know, maybe we undersold how good that front.

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Speaker 1: We you know, we talked all week about how good

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Speaker 1: Donald was and Sue and Brockers and and and then

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Speaker 1: we didn't expect him to play well and they played

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Speaker 1: awfully well. Yeah, I mean that looked like the Domicon

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Speaker 1: Sue twenty twelve or whatever. When you guys were going

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Speaker 1: on Friday eight, talked about that about Sue. He was

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Speaker 1: worried about Sue showing up, that this non existent Sue.

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden he shows up. And I

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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys did a heck of a job against

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Speaker 1: Darren Donald in this game, I really really do. I

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Speaker 1: think the plan they had, the way that Connor Williams played,

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Speaker 1: I think a boost of confidence for Connor Williams to

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Speaker 1: line up and he got Sue a couple of times

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Speaker 1: and Donald to play. He made, you know, two tackles.

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Speaker 1: He made one of the tackles where they're trying to

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Speaker 1: scoop him on the back side, and you know, Tyren

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Speaker 1: Smith could have been a you know, you know what

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Speaker 1: and hit him in the back of his legs, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't do it. You know, and and so I

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Speaker 1: feel like though that you know the thing where I

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Speaker 1: where I missed the boat, Guys. This is where I

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Speaker 1: missed the boat is I didn't watch the last three

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Speaker 1: games that they played Arizona and San Francisco. In those games,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, Okay, how did they

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Speaker 1: get beat by Philadelphia? How they get beat by Chicago?

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Speaker 1: That's where. But if you go back and watch those games,

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Speaker 1: you see C. J. Anderson running the football. You see

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Speaker 1: the combinations that they're using with their blocking schemes. This

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Speaker 1: is where I let the cowboy fan down, is that

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Speaker 1: I should have gone back and looked at Arizona. I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley, Todd Gurley. When an actuality, you

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Speaker 1: should have thought, well, C. J. Anderson has played well

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Speaker 1: here the last three weeks. They find him on the

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Speaker 1: scrap heap, They get him involved the line scheme, push

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Speaker 1: shot blockers, they create holes, He makes runs. You know,

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Speaker 1: credit with that their ability to run the ball. Give

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Speaker 1: some credit with the way they blocked against DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: in this game. And they and they did it in

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Speaker 1: a unique way. With a wide receiver with bunch formations

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Speaker 1: who was going to block him. You know, either it

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Speaker 1: You know. Those were things that they did to try

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Speaker 1: combinations with with Lawrence and Crawford and Collins, they said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: four guys to block your three and we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth take take Randy Gregory by himself. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna let that that We're gonna try

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Speaker 1: and win that block or one on one, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take care of your other scheme blocks. And

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Speaker 1: some of the big plays that they made in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, and they didn't have a lot of big players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's some twenty two yards. I think twenty

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Speaker 1: one yards was as long as pass of the day.

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Speaker 1: But that was a well protected four on three scheme

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Speaker 1: that they went one on one on the other side

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Speaker 1: and then boom, there you go. I mean, that's how

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Speaker 1: they make plays. See, that's that was the first thing

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Speaker 1: gonna be in their nickel offense though time three wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: so I expect to see them spread all over the field, right,

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Speaker 1: But I was looking and I'm going, why are they

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Speaker 1: so bunched up? That's the way they playing. It was

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Speaker 1: why is everybody so close to the line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 1: And that's what really I think fooled. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it fooled the Cowboys, if that's what they had

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Speaker 1: done all season long, or if they did it for

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Speaker 1: this game. And Brian's exactly right. That's how they controlled

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence because he was it looked like bumper cars

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Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, they they figured out with with the receiver. Sorry, Bill,

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Speaker 1: you know, they did a really Robert Woods not only

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Speaker 1: You know, Robert Woods did a really nice job. They

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Speaker 1: also with Josh Reynolds. You know, they they they found

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Speaker 1: they said, okay, you know, Hamerstein, We're not gonna let

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Speaker 1: was this was very reminiscent of to me, the the

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Speaker 1: Cults game in the way that they when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are really good, and we saw this against Seattle, when

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Speaker 1: you see white jerseys and you can send you're watching

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Speaker 1: the tape and you can see their numbers, When you

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Speaker 1: can see the backs of their numbers as they're playing

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Speaker 1: run defense, that's that's when you know they're really on it.

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Speaker 1: They're playing really well because nobody's moving them, nobody's But

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Speaker 1: when you when you don't see the jersey numbers on

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Speaker 1: the back end, you're you're saying, Okay, guys are not square,

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Speaker 1: guys are turned guys are facing the sidelines. You get

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Speaker 1: a defensive lineman shoulders to face the sidelines, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be natural gaps. And you know, Garrett talked about it too,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure when he got talked about two o'clock today,

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Speaker 1: really poor job. When you talk about vander esh Smith Lee,

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Speaker 1: a single high. Look, it's just that's how they stopped

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Speaker 1: the run. They play single high, put an extra guy

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Speaker 1: could they play their bass defense and helped the run.

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Speaker 1: They could have. They could have, Yeah, they could have.

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Speaker 1: But they've stopped the run playing single high all year long.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, they're the adjustment they made. There's

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Speaker 1: it's hard to make an adjustment when people up front

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Speaker 1: are blocking you the way that that the Rams are

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Speaker 1: able to block the front in this game, and because

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Speaker 1: of the way they did it, it allowed their offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen get to the linebackers. I don't doubt, no doubt

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Speaker 1: the Cowboy linebackers blocked. So you know what, and it

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Speaker 1: was the Colts game. It was the Colts game the

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Speaker 1: same thing. They got to the second level absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: because they controlled the two outside guys the way Brian said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're inside guys were getting to the linebackers and that's

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Speaker 1: what was creating those big holes. That and a couple

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Speaker 1: of times they're shooting the wrong gap and exact he's

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Speaker 1: they controlled that, and it was almost like they were

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Speaker 1: telling the Cowboys, well, if you want to stop the run,

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Speaker 1: you better go to your four three. You better not

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Speaker 1: sit there and nickel, yeah, the whole game, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna run right over you. And that's what they did now, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: to your point on the munched formations that the Rams run,

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Speaker 1: Will McClay on The Jason Garrett Show, which should be

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I think it's segments on there.

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Speaker 1: Uh did a great job illustrating what the Rams do

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Speaker 1: on offense, and that's what they do on offense is

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Speaker 1: they bunch in their wide receivers type formation formations and

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Speaker 1: there's he and he illustrated with several examples about six

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Speaker 1: different plays, some run plays, some pass plays. Why they

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Speaker 1: do that and how that can can confuse the defense

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Speaker 1: and how they well be able to sort things out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they gatter too. I mean that's something too.

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Speaker 1: We talked about bunch. What did they do They use

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Speaker 1: bunch formation when Todd Gurley when they moved Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: out wide against Green Bay and ran him underneath, what

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Speaker 1: did they do? They got bunch formation and then they

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Speaker 1: ran everybody inside, creating like you know, traffic and trash

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Speaker 1: to have to run through. So yeah, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a good scheme. It really is a good scheme.

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Speaker 1: The way that they the way that they get their

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Speaker 1: there were some of the open throws that they were

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Speaker 1: able to make were because of some of those routes.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the main reasons they do it.

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Speaker 1: It helps out the quarterback when, for instance, if you're

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Speaker 1: if the balls on the right hash and you've got

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Speaker 1: a tight formation there, and let's say you want to

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Speaker 1: throw a flag route Brandon Cooks well on the left

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Speaker 1: side over they go the left flag Well, that gives

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Speaker 1: so much room for the quarterback that throwout on the

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Speaker 1: sideline out there right. Well. And the other thing it

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were blitzing you know, they were blitzing vander

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Speaker 1: can't blitz You're not gonna get through that stuff exactly.

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Speaker 1: And so they kind of took that away too, and

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Speaker 1: forced the Cowboys into coverage. But again, the bottom line

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Speaker 1: got trapped in a preseason game. We had to walk

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Speaker 1: from down and then walk all the way back up

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Speaker 1: then if you have to come back up, you walk

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Speaker 1: there's so much history there. But logistically and tonightmare. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: except for us. We park We figured out how to

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Speaker 1: I go, oh, I didn't have a parking pass. I'm

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't recognize it. A new soccer stadium, yep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: owner's box was basically what we were in. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was just a trailer. Yes, that's the owner's box. So

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Speaker 1: if he stayed till the last there was no way

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Speaker 1: he'd make it down there. Yeah, I mean they brought

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you mentioned this, but they did

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Speaker 1: this in preseason games too in the past. That's ninety players,

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Speaker 1: even with fifty three or forty six, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: yelling at us to move. As Dave said, it's all

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Speaker 1: about perspective. It was a you know, that was a

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Speaker 1: and you really had the feeling like they were gonna

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Speaker 1: about like Texas U style and the Cotton Bowl. But

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Speaker 1: of it. But that was that was a hell of

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Speaker 1: an atmosphere. Just didn't work out for this team. So

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Speaker 1: what was the split? You think once the game got going.

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Speaker 1: I think by the end of it, when we went

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Speaker 1: twenty or seventy thirty something. There were a lot of

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Speaker 1: yellow towels waving in that. Yeah, but the cowboy fans

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Speaker 1: started waving their yellow towels, did they? Yeah? Because didn't

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Speaker 1: you notice that makes sense? The first two possessions when

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Speaker 1: so much noise? And and and people were waving their towels.

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Speaker 1: And then I looked and it was like Cowboy fans

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Speaker 1: to call signals. I missed that. What happened? Uh? Can't

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Speaker 1: just dropped in an old and yellow? Yeah? What do

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Speaker 1: you mean yellow? An old? What's the old inside? Never mind?

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Speaker 1: He can't hear ken't that's the problem. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a good drop. Yeah it was. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: tell me? No, I didn't really hear what was that was?

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Speaker 1: Talking about the breaking news that you got? You want

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Speaker 1: to read your story? No, it's not gonna be much

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Speaker 1: that's why I missed the first segment of the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want me to read it on the air. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do it. And we got a little voice we got

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Speaker 1: off on a tangent voice, Captain Luck. No, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: I'll Petry Bumpkin. I'll do it in a Wade Phillips voice.

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Speaker 1: You go ahead, speaking Monday on one Old five. Not Wade,

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Speaker 1: but all right, I'll do it my speaking Monday on

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Speaker 1: one Old five, three the Fan. The Cowboys head coach

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said he expects offensive coordinator Scott Lanahan to

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Speaker 1: breaking news straight from the flagships from Garrett. We don't

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Speaker 1: Well added? And then okay, adding that the team is

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Speaker 1: still in evaluation mode less than two days after its

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Speaker 1: divisional round playoff loss to the ram I think Rob

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Speaker 1: be noted, right, absolutely has to be noted because you

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Speaker 1: See that's where I think that to me, the the

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Speaker 1: says it, But well, yeah, what's he supposed to say

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00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: on the spot like that? Yeah? Yeah, If if in

641
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: fact we get to we get to the Pro Bowl

642
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: next week and Scott Linehan's coaching him up, then that's

643
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of what's happening. Yeah, He's gonna

644
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: make headlines either way. Right, if he said says what

645
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: he said, he's making headlines because he's said that he

646
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: expects him back. Yeah, well, he's under contract, Okay, absolutely, yeah,

647
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: all right, if he said that, if he if he

648
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: didn't say, if he the question was posed to you

649
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: expect Scott land a hand to be back. It's under contract.

650
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: And if he said we're in evaluation mode, that's making headlines.

651
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: That's a huge he took. He took the path of

652
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: least resistance, is what he did. You know, just say

653
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: he's back, and if they make a if they make

654
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: a coaching change in the next three or four days,

655
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: then somebody here will break it. Rob Phillips will break it,

656
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Mickey will break it. Somebody will break it, you know.

657
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: But until then, I mean again, if he's if he's

658
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: out there coaching and the Senior the Axcumean, the Pro

659
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: Bowl practices, but then you know, you got your answer.

660
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: But until then, I think we kind of have to

661
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: just let the evaluation process take I think it's a

662
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: good story, Rob, I didn't think it was a bag

663
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: of a thank you man. Well, I mean, look, and

664
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: he's always he's been consistent. I mean he's back Scot

665
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: absolutely for years now. Yeah, I mean every time they

666
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: lose a game to get back, it's you know, he comes.

667
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Scott is probably the first guy under fire, even beyond Jason,

668
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: when they lose a game or they struggle offensively, and

669
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: DA's probably in that mix too. Um, And I looked

670
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: up the stats. You know, it's it's really a tale

671
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: of two halves of the season. Pria mari Posta Marii

672
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: and before they made the trade, the first eight games,

673
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: I think they were twenty eighth, and total offense they

674
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: rose to about twenty second, and clearly they were a

675
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: more functional group, a more efficient group with with Amari

676
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Cooper in the lineup. So, like Brian says, it's about

677
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: players too. Yeah, it's about getting guys that can help

678
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: execute what you're trying to do. Absolutely. Yeah. And then

679
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, Um, I guess the Dolphins news

680
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: broke since we were last on the air. At least

681
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: the speculation is that, yeah, from the Patriots staff is

682
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: in line to get that job. That's who they're targeted.

683
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: It hadn't been official, officially done yet, but that and

684
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of course the Jets have done their thing. The Bucks

685
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: have done their thing with arians, and so Chris Richard

686
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: appears will be back, and uh, we're y'all around. Rod

687
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: Marinelli when he was asked about the thing, it was

688
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: a terrible question. I was, yeah, got there just about

689
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: when it started. I didn't hear how the question was asked. Yeah,

690
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: but I heard the answer asking about him retiring as

691
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a terrible question, you know. And I guess it's reports

692
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: from from Ian Rappaport that he's going to retire and

693
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: all that. And oh he said he was going to

694
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: be named the senior defensive advisor and they were going

695
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: to promote Richard to defensive coordinator. Okay, well, I thought

696
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: it was he mentioned the word retirement though too. It's

697
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: something about these answer. Marinelli said something to me, Yeah,

698
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: but you know, if it's been Marinelli think the question

699
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: was asked very well. No, I don't at the right time.

700
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the question was. And I love Kate

701
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: and I love her trying to get you know, answers

702
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: the questions. But you know, the guy, I mean, his

703
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: defense got shredded. You know, that's just a terrible time time.

704
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about run fits or why

705
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: they didn't play well or what was their thoughts? By

706
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: all means fairy game. But to ask a man about

707
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, is this it? Are you done? You're retiring?

708
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: All that? That's a terrible question because he stood up

709
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: there a lot of times and been very honest about

710
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: giving you answers, give you some of the some of

711
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: the best answers you get from a coaching perspective of

712
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli's answers. How honest he is about the players,

713
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: how honest he is about the opponents, how honest he

714
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: is about his own team. You know, I get on

715
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: us about this. We asked terrible questions. We asked terrible questions,

716
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: and you wonder why these folks don't want to talk

717
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: to us. You don't want they don't want to be

718
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: around us. And seeing the other thing you gotta take

719
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: also with a grain assault as these reports on pregame

720
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: shows on game day, Yes, because everybody's got to come

721
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: up with something, yeah, And if somebody comes up with something,

722
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: then the other station's got to trump them with something else. Yeah.

723
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I just don't kind of the way it works. And

724
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful because the pressure is on those

725
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: guys to come up with something, and if they don't,

726
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, well that guy had this. Yeah,

727
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's the wrong it's the wrong timing

728
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: for question. Ask him why they lost that game, and

729
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: he will stand there all day and tell you why

730
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: they didn't play well enough. And you know what, and

731
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Richard did the same thing exactly. He stood there and

732
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: took the blame poor stationed by the players and the coaches.

733
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: He said, it's on me. Yeah, he put it on him,

734
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: see to ask better questions. However, Scott Rod has been

735
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: so supportive of Chris throughout this whole season and giving

736
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: him that responsibility to share that play calling and probably

737
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: do with the majority of it. It seems like at times,

738
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: just like he did with Matt eberflu So, I don't

739
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: know how it's going to work out, but he's such

740
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: a competitive guy in that moment, that's the last thing

741
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: he's thinking about. And that's why that answer was what

742
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: it was. Don't blame him, Yeah, don't blame him at all,

743
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like before the game and I

744
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: don't know how I would be, but you know, they

745
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: it's like Rod's on the sideline while we're down there.

746
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: It's two hours before kickoff, and I'm thinking, if that

747
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: was me, I don't want to talk to nobody, right,

748
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: he always does. But he comes up. He goes, great

749
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: atmosphere here, and I go, yeah, I said, well, you've

750
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: you've spent some time in this stadium. And he tells

751
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: me about his senior year in high school when they

752
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: played the North South All Star Game, which was the

753
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: big game in California, and he played it in against

754
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Dan Pastorini. Yeah right, And it's like, gosh, but you know,

755
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: and that's him. So how many years ago with that

756
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: a bit it was I think he told me it

757
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty nine. Maybe, well he's sixty nine years

758
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: old now, yeah, so years old. Yeah, yeah, And and

759
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: Hud was telling me about how they won a national

760
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: championship at Southern cal in nineteen sixty two. Yeah, in

761
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: that stadium football lifers. Man, Well that's the thing about it.

762
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, just that's well, and here's here's

763
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: the other thing. To do that to him in that atmosphere.

764
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible atmosphere also, with everybody jammed

765
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: up outside around this wall and just took a bad loss.

766
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: Your defense, you're you know, this, this defense that that

767
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: we coming out of Oxnard, that Brian brought us thought

768
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: was a question mark end up being the thing you

769
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: can hang your hat on, and it was, you know,

770
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna they're gonna. The only time that

771
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: this team has seemed to have really played bad lost

772
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: games was because of defense. But for the more majority

773
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: of the season, they've been outstanding. Coverage, run, defense, coaching,

774
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: whatever you have to say, this defense has been outstanding.

775
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: What did I write on my gut feeling in defense?

776
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: We trust We're gonna make a new coin. If you

777
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: that's that's what it was gonna take. You were gonna

778
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: have to find a way. Whether it was against the

779
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Rams or the or the Saints, you were gonna have

780
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: to play against some pretty good offensive teams, you know.

781
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: And who's a better team guy than Rod Marinelli. And

782
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about what Rob was mentioning about with Richard

783
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: coming in, and he did it with Ebraflus two, given

784
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: them the freedom to improve the defense and the other

785
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: part of it. With In terms of Richard, I mean,

786
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: the way the rules work in the NFL, the only

787
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: way he's leaving is for a head coaching job that

788
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: doesn't look likely now, like the Dolphins have centered on

789
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, and I think the only other opening is

790
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Zach Taylor's going there. So yeah, I mean,

791
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. So you don't have to

792
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: promote him to quote unquote defensive coordinator to keep him

793
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: from another job, right, So, I mean you can make

794
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: it work the way it is right now. I mean,

795
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: if you want to do whatever with titles and stuff, great,

796
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: But I mean obviously here in Rod Marinelli after that

797
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: game at sixty nine years old, he's got a whole

798
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of coaching left in him. He's

799
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: certainly got enough fire in him. And we'll see what happens.

800
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: But like Chris Rochard's tied, isn't affecting him from getting

801
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: head coaching, That's what I'm saying. So, and Rod was

802
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: talking about this during the week, how he believes in

803
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,640
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804
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,799
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805
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560
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807
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: he goes Christopher Sard's a head coach. They just haven't

808
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,279
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869
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Speaker 1: Let's how about we pit Amari Cooper versus Marcus Peters

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Speaker 1: And I think we ought to work on Amari Cooper

878
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Speaker 1: versus Marcus Peters as a prelimb March sixteenth. I love it.

879
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: I love it. I'll take the bigger guy, you know,

880
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: Mark Amari. He's got some dog and him. I like

881
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: that about him. Yeah, He's like, yeah, he's got It's

882
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: still to me, it's you look at what how the

883
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: season went, you know, the the resource that they used

884
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: to go get him, that was absolutely the right play,

885
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's it's the twenty seventh pick.

886
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: I can only probably find nineteen first round grades. So

887
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: if you're telling me I'm given a second round pick

888
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: for a Marii Cooper or a great a player on

889
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: the board that's got second round ability, all right, Yeah, sure,

890
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I'll absolutely do that all day long. You know, I'm

891
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go through a bunch of wide receivers.

892
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. If I look at a Maury Cooper

893
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old and what he's accomplished is

894
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of these other wide receivers, I'm

895
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna go. Please give me a Maury Cooper, you know.

896
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: And if they hadn't made the trade, if we're sitting

897
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: here right now saying what's the biggest need on this roster? Sure,

898
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver? We have been talking about that two weeks ago. Yeah, well,

899
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been in the playoffs and have been

900
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yeah, you know what I mean. No, No,

901
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, You're absolutely right. You know. That's

902
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: the thing about it is I you know, it's it's

903
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: they've got it. They're gonna have an interesting offseason as

904
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: far as you know the signings and how they're gonna

905
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: do it, and all that. But I trust I trust

906
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: these guys draft in football players. Yeah, I really really do,

907
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: even though even though that their first pick will be

908
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: at fifty eight and we don't know that. You never know,

909
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones might jump in there and get the bottom

910
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: of the draft and say, you know what I'm I'll

911
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: jump back in. I'll give next years one he'll do something.

912
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: You know. They really love a guy, Yeah, they really

913
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: love a guy. But if you're telling me at twenty seven,

914
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I got to pick a guy that's better than the

915
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: guy just got. That's that I've seen play well, help

916
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: me win games, got me in the divisional round, the playoffs.

917
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: That's a no brainer to me. I might, I might

918
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: be a dumb personnel guy, but I'm not that dumb.

919
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: You know, Draft show coming up Thursday, Thursday, and we

920
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl next week. Let's start Monday.

921
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I'll be out Monday Monday to all next week. So

922
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: if you guys are doing shows, it'll be me do

923
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. But I'm sure you guys will

924
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: handle that the best you can. But yeah, we'll get

925
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: started when this will you know, and the draft never stops.

926
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're gonna get some picks, they're

927
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna get an opportunity to make their team better. There's

928
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: a free way of doing it, you know, So by

929
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: all means, let's talk about it. Well, we'll accept your

930
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: collect call. I don't anybody make a collect call if

931
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: you're in jail. If you're in jail, you're calling collect.

932
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: I think I've been in jail. The only guy here's

933
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: been in jail. That's that's that's the line. I'm the

934
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: only guy here it's been in jail. Yeah. So anyway, Yeah,

935
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: it's well, yeah, the off season's always Hey, it's off season. Yeah,

936
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Now, you kind of get you

937
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: get your team together. It's the best drop we got.

938
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I love it. It's not the actually the Miles Austin

939
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: that one too, Thank you, Miles. Okay, that wins. Yeah,

940
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: you go absolutely every time. And today is deadline day

941
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: for the underclassmen to declare. What do you think it's

942
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: happening in Oklahoma? Yeah, what's your quarterback in the I

943
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: think he's declaring he wants fifteen million from the A's.

944
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: That right, I think the A's are gonna give it

945
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: to him. I don't I'm not sure that that's true.

946
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: It's too high. I think that inflated got thrown out there,

947
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: and I don't it's others have said that's not true. Um,

948
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: but you know one thing about that. And we're talking

949
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray. The rules on the supplemental draft, But

950
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: could he go play with the report for spring training?

951
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Go with the a's through in play a base half

952
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: a season baseball and spent drafts in July. Now you're

953
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: going down Ken you declare YEA, and what are the circumstances.

954
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: It's usually post it's usually post draft that that happened, right,

955
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: and we get into like May, and then we the

956
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: rules change on that, the date changes on that. It's

957
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: depending on who's in. Let's just say that, think you can.

958
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: I think you could qualify that. I'm not conserning. I've

959
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: never had to deal with a I don't remember a

960
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: baseball I don't remember a baseball player. Let's say okay,

961
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Let's say he doesn't declare today, he goes and plays baseball,

962
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: and then he would have the option of returning to

963
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: OU for his senior year if once okay, or the

964
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: other option is okay, he's playing baseball, declare make himself

965
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: available for the supplemental draft, and I'm sure a team

966
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: could take him if if he doesn't like the quarterback

967
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: needy teams right now yeah okay, and doesn't want to

968
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: go to those places, but he feels like there is

969
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: a team that would be willing to spend a first

970
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: round pick in first round money in the supplementary balls,

971
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, like, for instance, let's say the Saints. Let's

972
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton likes him whatever, and he did that,

973
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: then that would be a way to do his baseball

974
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: thing and still whatever. Anyway, I just hasn't been mentioned,

975
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: and so I thought i'd throw it out there. I

976
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: know we haven't. Okay, just real quick, because I don't

977
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: want to make this the draft show. But where does

978
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: where do you see him being selected? Just right now?

979
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Where would you guess at what point in the draft

980
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: would you be would see him being selected. I didn't

981
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: think he would be that high given his size. But

982
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: when I hear rumors of old Kingsbury might want him

983
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: at Arizona and take him high in the draft like

984
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: number one if they had the pick, didn't somebody say

985
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: that he said that when he was at Tech. When

986
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: he was at Tech, Yeah, he didn't know yet he

987
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: wasn't coaching job. Yeah, he wasn't coaching Josh Rosen yet. Yeah.

988
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: I I don't see him as a first round pick.

989
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Me personally, he's an aggie. I got nothing against the guy.

990
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: I got nothing nothing against See. How about a guy

991
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: like John Gruden with three first round picks. You see

992
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: him like getting picked at twenty four mazel picked. Okay,

993
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: let's say that. Okay, I don't see him being a

994
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: top ten picky. But that's a masket depending on where

995
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: you see him. That's where he could say, if people

996
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: see me as a top ten pick, I'm in I'm

997
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: going I'm gonna play football. If he's not a top

998
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: ten pick, then now you know where does he look

999
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: at himself? Then? And then you're looking at the money

1000
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: aspect of that absolutely critical past. Yes, yes, well I

1001
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: think the money is the ultimately ultimate decision, right because

1002
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: baseball I don't think I mean guaranteed baseball player guaranteed. Yeah,

1003
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: but it's so far down the road, it's it's like

1004
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: boil in the minor league three or four years. Yeah,

1005
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: what's three years until you even get to the major league?

1006
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: How many years you have to wait to get paid.

1007
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: It's like Dak Prescott same, you're waiting if you're if

1008
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: your first round pick, they could even they could even

1009
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: carry you another year because you're you know, if your option.

1010
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: That's right? Plus baseball? I mean he's good, right, but

1011
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: how many I don't know how good he is in baseball?

1012
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: You know? Lead off? We have a better idea, We

1013
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: have a better idea what kind of NFL player he

1014
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: can be than what kind of Major League Baseball player?

1015
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: Obviously Billy Bean in Oakland thinks he could damn play baseball.

1016
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: He took him ninth overall. Yeah, but I watched money Ball.

1017
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: But how do these guys? How many first round picks

1018
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: make it in baseball? There are? I mean no, no,

1019
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: it's not the same as football bats. And how about

1020
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel and how no, No, what I'm saying is

1021
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: how many even make it to major leagues? Yeah? Sure?

1022
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: Two eighty hitting center fielder with no power. Let's go

1023
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: to Ken in Shreveport, Ken, how are you I'm playing for?

1024
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: How about you? Guys? Great? To my call? I got

1025
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: a circle question number one? I had heard you think

1026
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: lately on Pravis Frederick, how's his health looking? At going

1027
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: into next year should be fine with the government of

1028
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. I'm wondering what the status is on Karrence Williams.

1029
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: And also in the game Saturday night, I don't remember

1030
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: seeing Damien Wilson. Was he not playing? They played, Yeah,

1031
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: they didn't play, but the last player of the game,

1032
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: they played Bass. Basically they played Nickel the whole game

1033
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: is what they did. So Damian Wilson, yeah, he wasn't

1034
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: in until the last basically the last player of the game. Okay,

1035
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: because the other question I have is this, I'm looking

1036
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: at the team and staid of going into the next year,

1037
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: what kind of weaknesses do you think we have and

1038
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: who do you think will or what do you think

1039
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: we will address in the draft? And also frets and

1040
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. Got twos left in the show.

1041
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: All right, So fred Frederick you I think Frederick is

1042
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: gonna You know, Frederick has come out and basically said it,

1043
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: other than his conditioning, he feels pretty good about the

1044
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: where he's at, so hopefully that would be a good

1045
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: positive thing for him. As far as what you need

1046
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: to address, you know, it depends on who you lose.

1047
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose they are they gonna do they franchise?

1048
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Are they gonna get a deal done with Lawrence? Anybody

1049
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: want to anybody want to hedge a bet right now? Yeah?

1050
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: I think they will, Mickey, I think they do. Okay,

1051
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Then that takes care of the defensive end spot. Okay,

1052
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at tidy end? You're happy

1053
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: with all three of the tight ends you got, It's

1054
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: something i'd look at. Okay, we're gonna think about drafting

1055
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: to tide end. What about safety? You guys happy with

1056
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath the way he played or any of those

1057
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: other guys not in the first round? Okay, then we're

1058
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna have a first round No, no, looking at a

1059
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: safety right there? Then how about defensive tackle? Got the

1060
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: human log you know we've got to You're not gonna

1061
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: probably have David Irving this this campaign, like you didn't

1062
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: have him this year. I'll take I'll take some competition there. Okay,

1063
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at a defensive tackle there. How about

1064
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: about back up running back? Yes, yes, okay, they were

1065
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: looking now we were looking strongly at a running How

1066
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: about a slot receiver? That's another I went cold. Beasley

1067
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: free agent Cole Beast is going to be a free agent.

1068
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: I think colebas is coming back here. But even going forward,

1069
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: even if Cole Beasley came back, still I have a need.

1070
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Or how about offensive tackle? You're happy with you? You

1071
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: worried a little bit about Tyrant Smith in his health?

1072
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Are you worried about the contract in a couple of

1073
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: years of Lyle Collins. I would look at depth at

1074
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: that position. Oh my gosh, we're looking at a lot

1075
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: of things, guys. Mm. Yeah, I tried to answer the

1076
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: man's question there. I think how about linebacker? How about yeah,

1077
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: how about linebacker? Absolutely? Aman Wilson's a free agent, isn't he? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1078
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about Sean Lee and John Lee. I

1079
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: think I think Sean Lee. I think that decision is

1080
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to be make too. Maybe Sean Lee

1081
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: will make that decision for you. M you know, but I,

1082
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: like I said, you can go a you could go

1083
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: a thousand different ways here, depending on every position on

1084
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: the roster. Every position. Yeah, especially I'll tell you what.

1085
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Let's not sleep on that backup running back thing, by

1086
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: the ways, right, that might have held your hostage a

1087
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: little bit. Look at what the Rams did well. I mean, yeah,

1088
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: they picked that guy. Happen four weeks ago, five weeks ago.

1089
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: What a great store Saints have. Look at what the

1090
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: Patriots have running back, I mean, safety, d tackle. So yeah,

1091
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean everybody on periscope is kind of dancing with

1092
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: us right now. Smart fans, kicker, kickers and other things.

1093
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: There you go. Ye see, there's so many different way

1094
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: this team is far from being set. And if you

1095
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: tell me that the biggest one, the biggest thing I

1096
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: have to do is get Lawrence done. And I've got

1097
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: that done. I'm in. Let's go all right. Now, we'll

1098
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: figure about drafted. Maybe I could get maybe, maybe I

1099
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: call that guy out there in the Pacific Northwest and say, listen,

1100
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: this is what I got in for a couple of years,

1101
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. If he says no, then

1102
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. There's a safety at Delaware I really

1103
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: liked too. I've already seen. You know, there's guys out there.

1104
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of major free agent decisions

1105
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: to make. I think three four starters. Beasley's one, obviously Lawrence.

1106
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: I think Beasley walks. But they've got they've they've got

1107
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: a lot of spots where they say we can improve here,

1108
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: we could look at doing this here. There's no question

1109
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: question even though it's a young team where they feel

1110
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: good about a lot of young players. Yep, you know what.

1111
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: Every team can do that, and especially if you're eliminated.

1112
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: When this team was eliminated, right, yeah, I bet the

1113
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: Saints will sit there in three weeks and go, we

1114
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, we couldn't the thud, Nick, it's we that

1115
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: I know. It's the thud. You're running nine hundred miles

1116
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: an hour and you hit the wall and you thud,

1117
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: and everybody says, oh, oh God, get rid of this.

1118
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Do this to you know, No, you systematically find a

1119
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: way with a plan to figure this out. And MC

1120
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: caller said something about Terrence Williams. Terrence Williams is gone. Yeah,

1121
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: I think that's that's got another year left technically on

1122
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: his deal. Yeah, I think yeah, But technically he's a

1123
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: good Let me tell you what, this receiving corps might

1124
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: not be bad. If the four guys you run out

1125
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: there are are going to be is guaranteed money's done. Yeah, right,

1126
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: But I think about the four guys. If you run

1127
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: out Cooper, you run out there, gallop, you run out

1128
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: Brown and you run out I'm on you. What my guy,

1129
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, Guy, Cedric Wilson, don't sleep on Cedric Wilson

1130
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: because I think he's a better Alan Hearns. Alan Hearns

1131
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: is a tough s ob. I'm not saying broke his ankle,

1132
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: but I'm saying Alan Hearns never once complained, never you

1133
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: did everything he had to do, made a player to

1134
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: a game. Give me that guy too. Tavon's a free

1135
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: agent too. Yeah, y, this receiving corp might it's not

1136
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: going to be a committee next year. It's gonna be

1137
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: legitimate guy's plan. Get ready for that, and hopefully that

1138
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: will help the quarterback and hopefully the runner. We got

1139
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: to get the runner some help, you know. So he

1140
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: kind of became that at the end of the year. Yeah,

1141
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah. Would you dare draft a fullback?

1142
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: Moves round? Yeah? I'm is there a fullback? I was

1143
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna say there's probably none of there's a defensive end

1144
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: that will convert. I look at cornerback too, corn nerf back?

1145
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Speaker 1: All right, court her, all right, We're back with more

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