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Speaker 2: Washington.

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Speaker 4: Let me stop before he damn me. My boy Rob

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Speaker 4: got a partner. I want to talk to you. Why

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Speaker 8: Rob?

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's he going after now?

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Speaker 9: I just every time I opened my eye, somebody getting it,

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Speaker 4: Are you on his list?

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Speaker 2: Me and Steve?

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Speaker 4: Nah? You good? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he just been letting everybody have it. Lately, I've

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot to get to, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: And uh man, so much to talk about college kids

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: But first's welcome into the Odd Couple crew because we

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to do this farm radio program without him.

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Speaker 5: Alex is our engineer.

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Speaker 2: Behind the That's so good. Oh my goodness, oh god,

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna say that every time?

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Speaker 2: Cool because it fits. It just fits Alex. It fits

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Speaker 2: everything that we do. Thank you. Okay, wow, okay, right,

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Speaker 2: you should have the button for you, Alex?

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, I think what are you doing? Do you

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Speaker 5: Rob g is our producer, but Mexican Brandon is also here.

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Speaker 5: You never heard of that's producing Brandon and he hear that.

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Speaker 5: But yes, what is that forty nine ers hat you

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Speaker 5: No, no, Brandon, not that I see what you have

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Speaker 9: I know it's all listen. Usually we we overreact in La.

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Speaker 9: It actually is cold degrees.

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Speaker 5: throughout the program. Yeah, and soccer is our social media guru.

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Speaker 4: He ain't got us no headphones, So there you go.

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Speaker 5: Well, Alex got the headphones from Elijah has Steve, he's golden.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Yep, all right, Kelvin, there was some movement,

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Speaker 2: some news.

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Speaker 5: I guess news you could use from the your Los

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Speaker 2: Wherever the wind blows.

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Speaker 9: Let's start off on a good foot, Okay. I don't

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Speaker 9: want to have to come see about you. Yeah, I

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Speaker 9: They're basically we knew when owner Mark Walters bought the

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Speaker 9: now there's some big changes. So they're reshuffling the deck

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Speaker 9: there in the basketball department. And they fired executives Joey

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Speaker 9: But you get expect with that. But I do think

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Speaker 9: was interesting is they said this Rob and this part

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Speaker 9: of our conversation. Doctor Buss's idea their father was for

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Speaker 9: Joey and I to run basketball operations one day.

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Speaker 4: That's what Jesse told uh shamp Serani and referring.

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Speaker 9: To the father, and he said, but Jeannie has effectively

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say this, the Lakers didn't do enough

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Speaker 5: for me, because Genie Buss should have been fired with

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Speaker 2: And what yeah, I'm that serious.

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Speaker 5: Once they've already taken the Bus family took the ten

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Speaker 5: billion dollars. And people have to understand everybody who owns

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying a.

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Speaker 2: They don't get that.

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Speaker 5: You think, oh, you own the Lakers. Oh my god,

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Speaker 5: all of them are your printing money. You got all

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Speaker 5: this money. No, that was the Bus family fit family business.

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Speaker 9: Yep, that's the main They're not Steve Balmer where this

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: Would a be? And this is just fun something to do.

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Speaker 2: It puts me out there.

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Speaker 5: My name is out there, exactly know the Lakers were

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Speaker 5: the Buses family business.

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Speaker 5: And and I don't I don't know the whole idea

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Speaker 5: or the whole idea that you sell a team to

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Speaker 5: or work there or collect money as pay. You got paid,

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Speaker 5: your family got paid, they got the ten billion. If

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Speaker 5: you want to be in the basketball business, then you

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Speaker 5: shouldn't have sold Just like Mark Cuban, I want another

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Speaker 2: What if that doesn't make any sense to me?

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Speaker 5: It really doesn't, Dude, what you sell for the Bus

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Speaker 5: family enough, the people who won the organization, who bought

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Speaker 5: the team right of the Dodger people, get your own people.

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Speaker 2: You don't need Genie Bus anymore.

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Speaker 5: And it does feel weird. And I'm not siding with

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Speaker 10: What?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't Genie get the red get the pink.

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Speaker 2: Seriously?

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Speaker 4: So here's my answer to that. I believe Genie Buss.

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Speaker 9: Is the singular face of the Lakers outside of you know,

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Speaker 9: nobody really thinks of Rob Pelinka except obviously Laker fans.

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Speaker 9: But when you think of it as a whole, like nationwide,

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Speaker 9: I think even even in LA she's endeared. You've been

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Speaker 9: the games, You've seen how fans. She's like the one

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Speaker 9: She's like, all right, now, this team, they're struggling, but Genie.

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Speaker 9: Come on, like people have love for her because they

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Speaker 4: So I think she's there for ceremonial like the heart

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Speaker 9: Come on. But I'm just telling you what you're there

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Speaker 4: I don't. She doesn't need to be there at all.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree, I don't disagree without need. I'm telling

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Speaker 2: But not one Laker fan is.

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Speaker 5: Gonna lose any sleep that Genie Bust doesn't have an

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Speaker 2: They understand how business is. They agreed, nobody cares about

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Speaker 9: She's old newsency, tingency of fans who still want a

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Speaker 9: what's the point then, Sarah, it's you wanted to be

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Speaker 9: a mascot, is what you're telling me. You wanted to

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Speaker 9: be a mascot. She will want don't you put a mascot?

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Speaker 9: Go down there and walk around and throw t shaps

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Speaker 9: at and you know, and you know people do that

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Speaker 4: He's magic. He is a part of it, but he's madic.

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Speaker 9: You feel comfortable, you feel good having around and he,

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Speaker 9: by the way, is someone there speculating Rodney Pete obviously

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Speaker 2: Know what that means. He wouldn't be shocked. Is Magic

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Speaker 4: Just tell you what Rodney said? What do you want

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Speaker 4: from me?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 4: That you know? And also Stan Caston, who is the

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Speaker 5: Stan Caston knows basketball and stand based up Dodgers, and

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Speaker 5: It's Lamar Jackson and it's not even close. John Stockton

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Speaker 5: He's the most accomplished because when you put the winning

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Speaker 5: and all those stats, then you could say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tom Brady forever.

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Speaker 5: People want to say he's their goat or whatever it is,

449
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Speaker 5: but it doesn't make him the best quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing with Josh Allen. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think there's an out that if I stack those two

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Speaker 5: guys up together, I would take Lamar ten out of

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Speaker 5: ten out as being a dual threat. Lamar's throwing the

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Speaker 5: football and where he is with the passing game and

456
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Speaker 5: trying to stop that. Dude, I'm not talking about just

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Speaker 5: from the one yard line or instead of getting it's

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Speaker 5: off to the full back or the running back or whatever,

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Speaker 5: going in yourself rather than giving it to somebody else,

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Speaker 5: and that's what he does. And a lot of times

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Speaker 5: you can still run in for more than a yard

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Speaker 5: or two out. But that's the play that they call

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Speaker 5: the style of play.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm not, I don't. I don't believe he's

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Speaker 2: better than Lamar as far as a dual threat.

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Speaker 4: I think the difference for me, again is a couple

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Speaker 4: of things.

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Speaker 9: One, his ability is size like that always makes it

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Speaker 9: where he can just run guys over and get up

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Speaker 9: like it was nothing and still again go right back

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Speaker 9: to airing it out and need be Also again, Lamar

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Speaker 9: has thirty four touchdowns and again we talked about seventy five,

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Speaker 9: so he has less than half of Josh Allen when

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Speaker 9: it talks to just getting an enzo, and that to

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Speaker 9: me is just a small hair on my chinny chin

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Speaker 9: chin separator. You know, I think Lamar Jackson is the

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Speaker 9: best player when everything.

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Speaker 2: How do you think he's the best player?

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Speaker 5: If you say that Josh Allen is the best dual

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Speaker 5: threat quarterback in the history of the NFL, how can

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Speaker 5: Lamar be better than him?

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, please, because that makes no sense

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 4: I tell you why.

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Speaker 9: Because Lamar's speed alone, that portion of it makes him different.

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Speaker 9: But I'm talking about for me, Josh Allen getting Indian

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Speaker 9: zone throwing an the Enzo. That's the but I'm telling

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Speaker 9: you for me, so Lamar.

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Speaker 5: But if he's the best dual threat quarterback, ever, how

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Speaker 5: could he not be better than Lamar? Yh is he

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Speaker 5: the greatest dual threat quarterback? So if he's the greatest

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Speaker 5: dual threat quarterback, he's not better than Lamar.

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Speaker 9: How No, because Lamar Lamar's passing ability right now, because

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Speaker 9: because of the way he plays, he's getting we already

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Speaker 9: talk about it his winning percentage, right talk about the

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Speaker 9: way Lamar, his style of play, his winning I think

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Speaker 9: he's at what seventy two percent of his games or

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Speaker 9: something crazy like that. Lamar, especially the early part of

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Speaker 9: his career when he was more run century Lamar. Right now,

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Speaker 9: both of those guys are video game players, which is

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Speaker 9: why the last three four years is going to be

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Speaker 9: pick your choice of who is gonna win a MVP.

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Speaker 4: So Lamar makes it look so effortless.

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Speaker 9: It looks like a video game, as does Josh, but

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Speaker 9: Lamar makes it He's a little bit more trickier to

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Speaker 9: game plan for.

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Speaker 4: And he's just a little bit more unique.

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Speaker 9: But when I'm saying, just simply do a threat and

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Speaker 9: it's close if you say Lamar, if I'm not mad

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Speaker 9: at you, I just think for me, his ability, his

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Speaker 9: being Josh to get in the end zone both ways

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Speaker 9: is the small separator for me that that's the only

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Speaker 9: difference on sidings.

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Speaker 5: To logical that then Lamar is a better player because

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Speaker 5: what Okay, let me respind that.

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Speaker 2: Let me because it doesn't I don't understand that.

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Speaker 4: But see I don't. This is where we're different.

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Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes had been the best player for years and

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Speaker 9: he's no wing near as dynamic is either. He can run,

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Speaker 9: but no way near as dynamics. So it's not just

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Speaker 9: being a great runner doesn't simply make you the best play.

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Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers was the best player and he wasn't the

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Speaker 9: most running quarterback. So rust player doesn't equate to just

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Speaker 9: simply no.

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Speaker 2: But it says the great, all right. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: when you say, you know what.

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Speaker 9: I'm saying, like lam Lamar being the best doesn't mean

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Speaker 9: he's that he has to have better legs or like

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Speaker 9: you can.

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Speaker 4: Peyton Manny was the best player for some time. He

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Speaker 4: wasn't running nowhere.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 5: But but the the idea that you're talking about the

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Speaker 5: same two guys, you're saying, You've said Lamar is the

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Speaker 5: best player in the league, but Josh Allen is the

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Speaker 5: best duel because they're not because they both do that.

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Speaker 2: They both do that, they both.

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Speaker 6: Know.

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Speaker 2: These two guys are both dual.

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Speaker 9: Right, yeah, absolutely, okay, but they're probably the best two

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Speaker 9: edits okay, So, but but you.

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Speaker 2: Say Lamar is the best quarterback, but he's the best

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Speaker 2: duel to.

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Speaker 9: Because Lamar doesn't Lamar is a capability is more so

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Speaker 9: maybe getting out the pocket some scrambles.

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Speaker 4: I'll run around Josh is a lot of times I'm

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Speaker 4: getting in the end zone.

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Speaker 9: So it ends in the results of him getting in

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Speaker 9: the end zone one way, the one way, or they're

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Speaker 9: through air or through running. And that's to me when

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Speaker 9: I'm saying the only that threat of him scoring from it.

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Speaker 9: He has seventy five rushing Jones House, Lamary has thirty four.

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Speaker 9: But a massive difference.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's just not I just gave you the

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Speaker 5: example of the John Stockton. You think John Stockton is

556
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Speaker 5: a better point card than Magic Johnson?

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Speaker 2: No, No, no, why not? What I'm saying, but that

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Speaker 2: goes says he has more as system magic and Magic.

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Speaker 9: Johnson was bigger, Magic Johnson was stronger, Magic Johnson was

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Speaker 9: able to score better and something. But it's more than

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Speaker 9: just as simple that that's what a dual threat. Both

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Speaker 9: of them are have gotten really good as fast as

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Speaker 9: over the years. But they're both pack.

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Speaker 5: But would you would you acknowledge that the Ravens have

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Speaker 5: gone away from a being they got Derek hen Reid,

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Speaker 5: they had other that that that's not what they want

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Speaker 5: Lamar to do.

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Speaker 2: It, not that he can't do it, is that they

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Speaker 2: don't want him to do it. And it's a style

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Speaker 2: of play. That's what I'm trying to say that.

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Speaker 9: So if we had that Lamar can doing two years

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Speaker 9: ago or in two years from now, I might, you know,

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Speaker 9: change it then. But as of the last two couple

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Speaker 9: couple of years, we've seen Josh Allen and I told

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Speaker 9: you that's why I think singularly won him that MVP

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Speaker 9: last year, and he was running all over the place,

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Speaker 9: jumping over people in snow doing literally.

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Speaker 5: Sny buddy, buddy. But he wasn't the NFL All First

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Speaker 5: Team All Pro quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Hey, they changed their vote what you want from me, Rob,

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Speaker 4: what you want from me?

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Speaker 7: None?

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Speaker 2: None of this makes sense to me, all right?

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Speaker 4: They changed their votes.

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Speaker 5: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Maybe you understand

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Speaker 5: Kelvin because I don't. I don't know how you get don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: If Josh Allen is the best duel threat quarterback of

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Speaker 5: all time, he should be the best player right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I just think that that's they go hand

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Speaker 2: in hand.

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Speaker 5: Is Josh Allen the great? He is dual threat quarterback

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Speaker 5: of all time? Kelvin says yes. I say hell no,

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Speaker 5: Oh God, no, p We'll continue that conversation next with you.

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Speaker 5: three sixty nine. It is the odd couple on a

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Speaker 5: TV theme song Thursday, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington.

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Speaker 5: here we are Thursday Night Football, another snoozer, six to three,

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Speaker 5: thirteen minutes to go in the half of the bull

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Speaker 5: the Bulls the Buffalo Bills up six to three over

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Speaker 5: the Texas.

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Speaker 2: No CJ. Stroud in this one, missing his third straight game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, once you knew the Texans were in it,

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Speaker 9: there was a chance for it to be a snoozer

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Speaker 9: because they're a good team defensively that keep themselves in games.

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Speaker 9: Can't squad Just yeah, their games aren't the most exciting.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they had a couple of decent ones, but

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Speaker 9: thank for God for their defense.

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Speaker 5: Again, that's when we knew the Ravens were really bad

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Speaker 5: on that deep Remember they scored forty.

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Speaker 4: Let the Ravens looked like that. You mentioned the buffalo

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Speaker 4: bills of bold or something.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what in the world that was crazy to

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Speaker 5: me because because they had struggled mightily to try to score.

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Speaker 2: But I do remember that they got a ton of

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Speaker 2: points against the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Yep, uh, Kelvin, Let's let's go to the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 5: to we have the story.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, there's just you know, JJ McCarthy obviously has

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Speaker 9: not had a great season.

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Speaker 4: When you kind of jump into the numbers.

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Speaker 5: You know what, when I hear that, I'm like, he

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Speaker 5: saved your season beating the Lions in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: That was a huge game from Minnesota begin.

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Speaker 4: But rock we said I said season. I didn't say

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Speaker 4: they have a good game.

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Speaker 5: No, But I'm just saying that, like he's only playing

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Speaker 5: He's only started like five games in his career.

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Speaker 4: And he's been bad when that's the problem when you

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Speaker 4: look at it.

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Speaker 9: So, but the drama, let me say it, the drama

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Speaker 9: for you ka drama k because uh, Chris Carter, one

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Speaker 9: of the all time great Minnesota Vikings, he he was

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Speaker 9: called a clown. McCarthy's trainer called him a clown for

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Speaker 9: criticizing JJ. So essentially, had Chris Carter, Uh, somebody was

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Speaker 9: saying Aucho was saying that he was playing well, and

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Speaker 9: then he said did you watch he being Chris Carter,

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Speaker 9: did you watch the first fifty nine minutes of the game.

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Speaker 4: And then he put a little thumbs down emoji.

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Speaker 9: And so Greg Holcomb, who was the longtime trainer who's

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Speaker 9: worked with macarthy, he replied by calling him a blanking clown.

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Speaker 9: So then he later of course deleted the post, apologized

667
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 9: and you know, did the whole thing that was unprofessional, disrespectful.

668
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: But when you start to the conversation becomes there's some uh,

670
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 9: some thought process or just saying some NFL insiders have

671
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 9: gotten to the point where Mike Florio's claiming a team

672
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 9: could look to bring in Matt Jones, who mac Jones

673
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 9: to compete for QB one next off season, and Diana

674
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 9: Reciding of the Athletics wondering got loud whether McCarthy will

675
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 9: even be on the roster next season. Boyd, things have

676
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 9: escalated quickly and to your point, my gosh, he hasn't

677
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 9: looked great, but dagging, it's been a you know, half

678
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 9: a season for him. I'll throw out the numbers then

679
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 9: you can go ahead, Rob. The numbers are He's completed

680
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 9: only fifty three percent of his pass is lowest among

681
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 9: the forty eight quarterbacks who have made at least one

682
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 9: start this season. His off target rate is twenty two

683
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 9: point one percent, which ranks forty seven, and his eight

684
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 9: total touchdowns, nine turnovers, and his sixty one point seven

685
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 9: passer rating basically everybody's he has him at the bottom

686
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 9: of every metric in the league.

687
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: All right, I just for five starts in his career,

688
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: is that where we are? Like, it's just totally with Dick.

689
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: It's just not enough of a sample size. He's been

690
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: heard twice already. He has to get under his under

691
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: his feet. I just don't even understand this.

692
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

693
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: I just think people they say this about every quarterback.

694
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 5: One quarterback is not winning they want him out. One

695
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: quarterback is winning every week, they want him out. Another

696
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: quarterback is on his third team in three years, and

697
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: he's the next coming of the Messiah, and they make

698
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: excuses for that quarter I don't even get it anymore.

699
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 5: I thought that Minnesota could could transform any quarterback into

700
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: into into a decent quarterback and play the system.

701
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: That's what I thought.

702
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: It was right?

703
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: That is that?

704
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Does that out the window?

705
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 9: Now?

706
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: I just five games? Is that all you get?

707
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 5: So when Shador loses on Saturday on Sunday to the Raiders,

708
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: he should be done right like like he should be done.

709
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: I think this is weird.

710
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you why this is weird for me, Ron,

711
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 9: It's weird because this is the guy you thought so

712
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 9: highly of. You went up to get him for the

713
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 9: tenth pick. He wasn't a guy that was projected to

714
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 9: be that high. You went out of your way to

715
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 9: get him. You had him as a projected starter. He

716
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 9: gets injured, Sam Donald goes in all of a sudden,

717
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 9: ends up having a great season.

718
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: You elected not resigned to him, which was.

719
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: The right move, which was the wrong move.

720
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: He wouldn't be having this, we wouldn't be sitting in

721
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: this conversation, Sam Donald.

722
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 2: Could be bad, could be bad too.

723
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: No, he went away and balling out in Seattle.

724
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: No, but that doesn't mean he would have been balling

725
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: out this year.

726
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: Why would he regress with the team all the time?

727
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: He would gressed in the postseason. He regressed at the

728
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: end of.

729
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: The Yeah, he had a bad to don't disagree. There's

730
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: no there's no facts.

731
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: So so he played great, doesn't mean you played great

732
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: throughout the entire season. He played.

733
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: Game. A bad game means when that kid came back,

734
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: he went to Detroit where who had owned the Vikings,

735
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: and beat and beat the Lions in Detroit and played

736
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: pretty well.

737
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 9: In that I was a bad loss Lions, okay about that,

738
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 9: But but so here and that's what I'm agreeing in

739
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 9: that this can't be the guy you thought so highly

740
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 9: highly of. That's why I was setting it up that

741
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 9: you went to get him at ten. You didn't sign

742
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 9: San Donald, and he goes out there and he competes

743
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 9: and he's not playing well.

744
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: But now you're like, oh, well we might go elsewhere.

745
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 9: Like you thought that highly of him, Give him a

746
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 9: full year, give him another season, and I've I've as

747
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 9: born and raised in Arbor, was baffled. You heard me

748
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 9: saying for months that I didn't see that type of

749
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 9: quarterback in him. He it was a product of Jim

750
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 9: Harbaugh's running his.

751
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Defense and say that that was his style that does.

752
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 9: And not that he didn't not that he didn't have

753
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 9: a place in the league. But I was shocked that

754
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 9: they went to get him at tenth. That's why a

755
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 9: lot of people Martin Wise who went to Michigan kind

756
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 9: of like, wait.

757
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: Whoa okay, but there's all kinds of other stuff in

758
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: intel and whatnot and what kind of guy you.

759
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 9: But that's what makes this conversation weird. That's why they

760
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 9: would want to possibly, you know, look at us.

761
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know.

762
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's if it's hearsay or that's

763
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 5: really coming from the people upstairs, you know, like like

764
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: you just don't know because we don't throw stuff out

765
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: all the time. And this makes no sense to me.

766
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: If he hasn't played enough, he had sample sized as

767
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: small and that was my.

768
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 4: Thing about him.

769
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 9: Even in college he didn't play a lot like he

770
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 9: wasn't he got finally a senior year to be or

771
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 9: not his senior I think was junior senior. But he

772
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 9: got to that last year to be the guy like,

773
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 9: all right, it's your team. And yes they won a

774
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 9: national championship, but he didn't do much, which was why

775
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 9: I was always baffled by that. But I do think

776
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 9: what you wanted him to do. Yeah, I'm not mad

777
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 9: at No, I'm not mad at his Michigan career.

778
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: I met him.

779
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't like they needed him. He couldn't do it.

780
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 9: Fine, This was Jim Harball, one of them. Absolutely, he

781
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 9: did that all the time with with his quarterbacks a lot.

782
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 9: So I wasn't He was perfectly fine for that system.

783
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 9: I was just shocked they went up and got him

784
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 9: that high. And now it makes you wonder, is it

785
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell, who normally can revise, vitalize.

786
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Cater quarterback whisper is what I was told?

787
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, so is he off his rocker right now? Is

788
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 9: he a little off his game? Or is JJ just

789
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 9: not the guy right now? Because I ain't gonna lie.

790
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 9: Fifty two point nine percent of his passes is atrocious

791
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 9: rock a game.

792
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: I'll give you that. That happens everybody. Patrick mahomes Lamar anybody.

793
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 9: Two games, all right, they are for five games, fifty

794
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 9: two point nine percent with those types of weapons, rock

795
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 9: that and that defense, meaning you're gonna get more cracks

796
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 9: at it.

797
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: That is terrible. That is that is really really, really bad.

798
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: And then to be off target at.

799
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 9: Twenty two percent of your passes has you forty seventh,

800
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 9: meaning forty six other guys are higher and better at

801
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 9: that than you.

802
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: That's bad. Six touchdowns, eight interceptions. So he's on the

803
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: struggle bus. But they can't act like this isn't the

804
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: guy that they brought in and believed in and didn't get.

805
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 9: Sam Donald for and let some other people go to.

806
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 9: They could have had on what's your boy? Daniel Jones?

807
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 9: He was over there, you know what I mean? They

808
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 9: had options, and this is who you elected to go

809
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 9: in and rod with.

810
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: They could have have They could have had Justin Fields.

811
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: Well we might've been having the same conversation right now.

812
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

813
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: They could still have Justin Fields. He's available. He's been benched,

814
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: you see he.

815
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 9: Will yeah, he will be after probably after this season.

816
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 9: But so you're you're still in with JJ McCarthy.

817
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: I just haven't seen enough for me to make a change.

818
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: He was heard.

819
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: I saw him come back from that injury.

820
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: I saw him go to Detroit and win that game

821
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: that at that point had saved their season.

822
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: I get it.

823
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: He had a stinker this past week. So whenever it well,

824
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: you know, it depends on what week. I don't think

825
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: that though, you think that was the conversation after they

826
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 5: beat the Lions in Detroit, like like, we we can't

827
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 5: win with that guy, or we need to look.

828
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: For somebody else. I think I think the problem is

829
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I doubt that that was the conversation.

830
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 9: No, I'm but I'm saying I think the issue with

831
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 9: him is remember that fourth quarter Game one. He looked

832
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 9: awful those first two quarters, four star quarters, terrible, and

833
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 9: then he goes crazy in the fourth to follow that

834
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 9: up and only score six points. And then obviously there's

835
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 9: some injuries and you know, but for him, uh, that

836
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 9: was a great way in versus the Lions. But then

837
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 9: you lose to Baltimore, which is Baltimore's Lamar. But it's

838
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 9: just how bad. He hasn't looked great at all. And

839
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 9: I think that's the challenge. And by now I think

840
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 9: there's an expectation of you should be making progress.

841
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: After five starts.

842
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 9: I just yeah, you should. I bet you should do it.

843
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 9: It's not that bad if getting a full week.

844
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: But that conversation should have happened after they beat the Lions.

845
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: What conversation you're saying, not that that he's no good

846
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: or we.

847
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Need to make a chance. I just don't like it

848
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: goes week to week after they beat the Lions.

849
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 4: By the way, by the way, he wasn't that great

850
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: versus the Lions.

851
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 9: By the way, He's fourteen to twenty five, fifty six

852
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 9: percent completion percent, one hundred and forty three yards, a

853
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 9: couple of touchdown one in exception.

854
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 4: Like it wasn't he wasn't a world beater.

855
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he still got it done. He got too

856
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: touchdowns against the lines to beat them.

857
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I remember he made a big third

858
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: down play that kept that gave him.

859
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: That was that.

860
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: That's the game. You saw the game he did.

861
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 9: He fumbled, he he got sacked five times. I mean,

862
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 9: he wasn't great, rob like they got to win, but

863
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 9: he he made.

864
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: What he had two touchdowns and he had the big throw.

865
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: That was the difference in the game. That's all I'm saying.

866
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: He doesn't have to be a Picasso every week. Nobody knows.

867
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: Can I get a Picasso? Can you give me one?

868
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: Bob Ross?

869
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 9: He's he started five games? Can I can I get?

870
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 9: Can I get some accidental three? He's a beautiful clouds?

871
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 9: Can I get some of those dumbest thing of it?

872
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 9: I told y'all, I told y'all last season, I told

873
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 9: you this.

874
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: I just what you told me.

875
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Justin Fields was a good quarterback.

876
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: No, I did not do what I said was with him? Right?

877
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: You said, you're a journalist.

878
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: You told me right, you said, oh, he won over

879
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: he won over the team.

880
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: He did not. He did.

881
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: What do you want from me to man?

882
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: He ain't but win over?

883
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: No team?

884
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: Do you want for me?

885
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Come on, man? Jay eight seven seven ninety nine.

886
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: I told you that too, A.

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Speaker 5: Six sixty three sixty nine. You also told me it

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Speaker 5: was gonna be Washington. Didn't you tell me that? What

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Speaker 5: should what should the Vikings do with JJ McCarthy? Does

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Speaker 5: he deserve to be the unquestioned starter again? In twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty six? We'll continue that conversation next with you. You

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Speaker 5: also told me the Pistons were gonna beat the Nicks.

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