1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's how do we reopen this economy? 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: The latest on how this pandemic is impacting farmers. What 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: does this do for the United States relationship with China? 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insidts. We're 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: responding to this crisis and manufacturers are stepping up like 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: never before. We're looking at seventy kennidates for different vaccines. 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: How do we make sure a pandemic of this scale 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: never happens again? This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Surrelate on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: m h D two. The White House releasing a new 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: letter just moments ago about the treatment that President Trump 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: is receiving for COVID nineteen, plus what does this mean 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: for a country now that the President and the first 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Lady have COVID nineteen. We have every angle covered, the policy, 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: the political implications, and on the Supreme Court, plus the 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: practical Where do we go from here in the next 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: twelve hours in America? So we have a lot to 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: get through as we are on standby for the first 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: comments from Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden as well. I 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: will take you to Graham Rapids, Michigan, once the Vice 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: President has begun speaking, and and I will bring you 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: those remarks. You were listening to Democratic presidential nominee Joe 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Biden delivering remarks in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the first time 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: he has spoken since the news broke early in the 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: early hours of this morning that President Trump has in 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: fact uh been diagnosed with COVID nineteen, as has First 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Lady Milania Trump. Just within the last half hour, we 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: have received a letter made public from the White House 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: physician who has said that the President is receiving treatment 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: for the COVID nineteen. I'm gonna read for him this 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: one page letter released by the physician to the President, 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Sean P. Connelly quote uh. Following the confirmation of the 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: President's diagnosis, as a precautionary measure, he received a antibodies 34 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing antibody cocktail. He then completed the infusion without incident. 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: In addition to the antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 1: vitamin D, as well as melotonin and a daily aspirant. 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: As of this afternoon, the President remains fatigued but in 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: good spirits. He's being evaluated by a team of experts, 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: and together we'll be making recommendations to the President and 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: First Lady in regards to next best steps. End quote. 41 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELLI, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Radio. Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden saying that 43 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: noting the importance of wearing a mask, he said, quote, 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: not about being a tough guy. Do it for the 45 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: people you love. I want to welcome now to the 46 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: program the chairman of the Democratic Now National Committee, Tom Perez, 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Mr Chairman, thank you for joining us. What did we 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: hear from Joe Biden just moments ago in terms of 49 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: how he will navigate through the next twenty four hours 50 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: of in America, Well, for Joe Biden, the next twenty 51 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: four hours will be exactly as he has acted throughout 52 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: his campaign since we've been in the middle of this 53 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen crisis, listening to the scientists, wearing a mask, 54 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: getting tested, regularly, practicing the behavior that has been recommended 55 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: by our scientists, making sure that he's engaged in social distancing. 56 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: And as you said, Kevin, and as a vice president 57 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: just said, wearing a mask is so critically important. Uh. 58 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, my parents taught me loved thy neighbor. The 59 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: best thing you can do to live out that basic 60 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: tenant right now is to wear a mask. So Joe 61 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Biden has been practicing the appropriate protocols for some time, 62 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: and he has been leading by example, and that's exactly 63 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: what we will continue to do. I do want to 64 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: note that Joe Biden made his remarks in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 65 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: while wearing a mask, speaking behind a podium and in 66 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: front of an American flag. Tom Perez is joining us 67 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: and justested to go through what has gone on just 68 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: this hour. Just this hour, we get this letter from 69 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: the President's physician, made public that he is receiving treatment, 70 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: that he is taking a very he has been ejected 71 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: with various antibodies as well as taking various vitamins. Moments later, 72 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: we hear from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who was 73 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: speaking in his state of Kentucky, and in these public remarks, 74 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the Senate Majority Leader says um that quote, we're closer 75 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: to getting an outcome regarding fiscal stimulus, and if we 76 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: get an outcome, I can't imagine more won't be in 77 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: it for the hospitals. So Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, 78 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: echoing what we heard from this morning on the fiscal 79 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: stimulus front from Senate Majority from how Speaker Nancy Pelosi 80 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: that there seems to be new pressure on the fiscal 81 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: stimulus front after a disappointing jobs report from this morning, 82 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: and then shortly after Leader McConnell spoke, we heard from 83 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, Chairman Perez just you know, and I say 84 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: this respectfully, just the dizzying day coming out of politics 85 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: for the country. UH. And of course, your counterpart at 86 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee, Ronald Romney McDaniel, announcing that she 87 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: has tested positive for COVID ninety put it in perspective 88 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: for us, sir. Well. First of all, I'd like to 89 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody knows that my thoughts and prayers 90 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: are with UH. Chairwoman McDaniel. You know we've spoken in 91 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the past, and UH, I know her children. I'm sure 92 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm worried about her. I'm worried about her, and we 93 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: pray for her, just as we pray for the President, 94 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the first Lady, and every single person who has been 95 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: affected by COVID nineteen. UM, we will not turn around 96 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: our country until we get a handle on this pandemic. 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: We can't fix the economy, Kevin, until we get a 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: handle on this pandemic. The ranks of the long term 99 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: unemployed skyrocketed this last month. Sometimes the unemployment rate goes 100 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: down for good reason, that's because more people got work. 101 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes the unemployment rate goes down for bad reasons 102 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: because more people left the workforce. The main reason the 103 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: unemployment rate went down last month is because so many 104 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: people left the workforce. They gave up, Kevin, they gave up. 105 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: And that's why Speaker Pelosi for months has been calling 106 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: for stimulus. That's as you know, the Democrats passed the 107 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: stimulus bill something like four months ago, and I'm hardened 108 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: to hear that Republicans are finally coming to the table. 109 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I hope we can get a stimulus bill right now 110 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: because the p p P program ended. Look at this 111 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: a few months ago, we had over four million jobs 112 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: gained in one month. Last month, again, it was something 113 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: like six and sixties thousands. We're barely halfway in terms 114 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: of the number of jobs. We lost two twenty two 115 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: million jobs, and we barely crossed the halfway point in 116 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: terms of jobs gained, it would take seventeen months at 117 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: this pace to get where we were back in February 118 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: or so of this year. And so we've got to 119 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: get to we've got to close that deal. I know 120 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Speaker Pelosi again has been working tirelessly, and I hope 121 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Republicans will indeed come to the table that will help people, 122 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: That will help people immensely. Um. But we really have 123 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: to make sure we get a better handle on the pandemic. 124 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: And you know the plan that the Vice President has 125 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: put out to do that. In end the listeners, Now, um, 126 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: this is dizzy um. And and this is the whip 127 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: sawn that people have been experiencing. So many people wake 128 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: up in the morning without a loved one, So many 129 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: people wake up in the morning with their kindergarteners trying 130 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: to learn how to read on zoom. That's really hard 131 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to do. Um. And we've got to we we have 132 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: to address the pandemic once and for all, and every 133 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: leader must follow the protocol Sheriviansan presses with us. He's 134 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, where he was 135 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: mentioning the unemployment report for the month of September with 136 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: only six d and sixty one thousand jobs added back 137 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: to the labor market in September, missing most forecasts, and 138 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: he alluded to it. The participation rate also dropped to 139 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: sixty one four percent, which was below all estimates. We 140 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: should note that the unemployment rate fell to seven uh. 141 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: The unemployment rate fell to seven point nine per cent. 142 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: And just as a quick aside, how the markets fared today? 143 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: US stocks slumped and volatile trading as investors weighed the 144 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: implications of President Donald Trump's positive tests for the coronavirus 145 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: along with renewed efforts to forge agreement on the fiscal 146 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: UH stimulus. I gotta ask you just one final question. 147 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for being so generous, Mr Chairman, with your time. 148 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: The protocol for the vice presidential debate we're hearing from 149 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the Commission the vice presidential debate scheduled for next week 150 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, that it is still on. But 151 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: the protocol does this do anything about safety for staffers 152 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: for Washington d C on Capitol Hill, for Washington members 153 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: UH of the campaign? I mean, does this change anything? 154 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Can you give us anything? Have you been in meetings 155 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: about this? What do we know in terms of how 156 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: today is going to impact the nation's capital and the 157 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: ecosystem around it. I hope that people, if they didn't 158 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: already understand the seriousness of this, will indeed understand the 159 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: serious seriousness of this now. And the Vice President will 160 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: follow whatever the directives are of the Debate Commission. He 161 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: will continue to ensure that he is practicing social distancing. 162 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: He's continuing to get tested with high quality tests. He 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: will he continues to travel with a minimal staff so 164 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: that we are again observing the relevant protocols moving forward. 165 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: And uh, he will continue to set an example for 166 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: the nation. Masks save lives. Masks are not a political statement, Kevin. 167 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: They are a public health imperative, and that is the 168 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: most important thing anyone who's listening today, um, And this 169 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: is not a right versus left issue. This is simply 170 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: a public health issue of mask keep it on. Um. Uh. 171 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, love thy neighbor by putting a mask on. 172 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: That's what we have to do here. I will continue 173 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: to pray for the President and the First Lady and 174 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: and um everyone who's um been affected by this. But 175 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: prayers are not enough. Actions are what we need. And 176 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: the most important tangible action that everyone listening to this 177 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: can take is to wear a mask, practice social distancing, 178 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: and act responsibly. Chairman Tom Perez of the Democratic National Committee, 179 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: thank you, sir for joining us off the top of 180 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: the show, and again if just to reset, just so 181 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: much to get through. We just heard from the first 182 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: remarks of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, who was speaking 183 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He urged urged all Americans to 184 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: continue to follow CDC guidelines relating to social distancing as 185 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: well as wearing a mask. He delivered his remarks while 186 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: wearing a mask. Just moments prior to that, just earlier 187 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: this hour, the president's physician releasing a memo that says 188 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: that the president is quote fatigued, but in good spirits. 189 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: He is being evaluated by a team of experts. This 190 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: according to his doctor after getting that diagnosis of COVID nineteen. 191 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Uh and the first Lady Melania Trump has also been 192 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: been diagnosed with COVID nineteen. It is raised significant questions 193 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: about what happens to all of the various different policy 194 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: developments of fiscal stimulus of the Supreme Court of the election. 195 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: And that's why I want to welcome to the program 196 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: to help navigate through not just the policy and political implications, 197 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: but the next forty eight hours. In America, John Fourtier 198 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: is with us. He is the executive director of the 199 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: Continuity of Government Commission at the Bipartisan Policy Center. John, 200 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: So many questions give us some clarity. Well, there are 201 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: several questions. Some relate to the president as president and 202 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: if for some reason the illness were to proceed so 203 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: far that the president felt that he needed to turn 204 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: power over to the vice president. That's something we actually 205 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: have some clarity in the in the Constitution. There's a 206 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: way to do that with the amendment and for the 207 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: president to return to the office when he's recovered. I 208 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: think the more difficult questions come in in the issue 209 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: of the election. Uh, he or Joe Biden as a 210 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, what if he would have would have to 211 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: remove himself from the ticket. We are at a very 212 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: late date. We've had ballots printed, We've had ballots sent 213 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: out to people, and some have been even voted with 214 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: the names of Trump Pence on on those tickets. Uh. 215 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: And it's a very difficult thing to be here out 216 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: how you would have a replacement at this time. I 217 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: think the simplest answer is the political parties are still involved, 218 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: they would pick a replacement ticket or probably elevate Mike 219 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: Pence to the presidency and put up replacement vice president. Uh. 220 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: And then the question is, well, people don't see that 221 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: on the ballots. They still have to vote for the 222 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Republican ticket. And interestingly enough, our presidential elections are really 223 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: not technically for the names of Trump and Biden. They're 224 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: actually people the elections that elect these presidential electors. And 225 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: let me jump in here. I don't want to get 226 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: too far off into the hypotheticals, and I want to 227 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: focus on what we know. But you raise questions that 228 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: are on everyone's mind. But I want to go historical 229 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: if I could for a second, because there is precedent 230 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: in terms of a previous presidents relinquishing their authority to 231 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: the president. What do we know from a historical matter 232 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: of when this has been done. Yes, I mean we've 233 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: had over the years many cases where it has not 234 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: been done. Famously, Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and was 235 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: was incapacitated for this last year, and it happened really 236 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: did not really equish power. We enacted the twenty fifth 237 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Amendment to the Constitution in the in the ninety six 238 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: season nineteen sixties seven, and since then we have more 239 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: guidance in a more clear way to transfer power. We've 240 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: done it three times. It's been for elective surgeries, once 241 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: for Reagan to George H. W. Bush and from George W. 242 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Bush to Dick Cheney. Uh. The president went in for 243 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: a for a minor procedure, UM signed the power over 244 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: and then returned to power afterwards. So there is there 245 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: is some clarity if that were to happen and the 246 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: president himself chose to to reallyinquished power and then could 247 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: could retrieve it again once recovered. And can you John 248 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: just walk us through how that process works. Yeah, this 249 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: is if the president is alert and we want to 250 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: um sign power over to the vice president, he simply 251 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: signs a message and sends that to Congress, and until 252 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: the president then says he's recovered, the vice president acts 253 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: as president. So we have a simple case of of 254 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: of an acting vice president for you know, a small 255 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: period of time. More complicated if for some reason, the 256 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: president we're not able to make that declaration himself. There 257 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: are some ways, harder ways in the twenty five Amendment 258 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: to remove the president temporarily. And there's even a provision 259 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: for a president who thinks he's well and all the 260 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: other actors think he is not well. And that's the 261 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: most difficult to hurdle. One we don't expect that we've 262 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: gotten to and we we have never used in our 263 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: in our history. John Forder, I really appreciate your time. 264 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Just fascinating, fascinating UH specific information that is on everyone's mind. 265 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: He course is the executive director of the Continuity of 266 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Government Commissioned UH at the Bipartisan Policy Center and the 267 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: author of a numerous books, including Absentee and Early Voting Trends, 268 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Promises and Perils. Adjustery set here. I'm Kevin Cerilli. I'm 269 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. 270 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: Just within the last half hour, President Donald Trump is 271 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: in quote good spirits and quote after his COVID nineteen 272 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: diagnosis on Friday and has been treated with a regenera 273 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: on pharmaceuticals antibody cocktail quote antibody cocktail end quote, the 274 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: White House physician said just within this hour quote following 275 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: the PCR confirmation of the President's diagnosis as a precautionary measure, 276 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: he received a single eight graham dose of Regenerations Polly 277 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: clonal antibody cocktail, the physician Sean Connolly said in a 278 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: statement released by the White House Press Secretary Kayley Mcinateni. Quote. 279 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: In addition to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been 280 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: taking zinc, vitamin ded fami tidine, melatonin, and a daily 281 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: aspirant end quote. This comes as it has been a 282 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: dizzying day for Wall Street to try to make through 283 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: and sort through not just the developments of the Commander 284 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: in chief and the first family's health, but also to 285 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: sort through what it means for fiscal stimulus relief. Joining 286 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: us as Bloomberg Markets Live reporter cretty pretty what went 287 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: on in the markets today? How did they process the 288 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: president's health and how did they process the job's report 289 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: and developments on fiscal stimulus. Well, Kevin, we had just 290 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: a flood of negative news, obviously, starting off with that 291 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: COVID nine team diagnosis for the president. So of course 292 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: you saw markets just really tank it out about one 293 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: am New York time. Uh, the European Asian markets as well, 294 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: really taking quite a bit of a hit. And then 295 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: when you did come around eight thirty and get that 296 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: job's report, it was a week number, especially after we 297 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: got a fairly strong a DP report on Wednesday, followed 298 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: by him a slight improvement in initial job was claimed yesterday. 299 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: So we're kind of hoping for a better picture. But 300 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: really those numbers coming in way weaker than UH market 301 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: participants were forecasting. Um that thinks that it was still 302 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: early in the day, you didn't actually see the market 303 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: fall any further, still kind of reeling from that President 304 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Trump diagnosis. You also want to keep in mind those 305 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: that as we progressed through the day, the conversation really 306 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: shifted towards those fiscal stimulus movements. Any conversation, any comments 307 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: from UH Nancy Pelosi, from Mitch McConnell, muchen, and then 308 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: of course our very own John Farrow, his interview with 309 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow certainly moved the market. You saw a major 310 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: fate when Larry Cuddler started saying that the two sides 311 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: were still very much apart, still discussing that eight issue. 312 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: So really a flood of information here, all weighing on 313 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: the market today, and yet just within the last half 314 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: hour setate majority leader Mitch McConnell speaking at a press 315 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: conference in Kentucky, seemingly saying that he spoke in an 316 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: optimistic tone as it relates to to where the fiscal 317 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: stimulus talks are. In addition to that, speaker Nancy Pelosi, 318 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the top Democrat in the House, uh suggesting that this 319 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: could be an inflection point to have the markets sorted 320 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: through whether or not they feel that this is going 321 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: to be a positive inflection point for fiscal stimulus. Critic 322 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: up to Bloomberg Markets Live recorder. Well, of course, Nancy 323 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Pelosie did make that comment earlier, saying that really from 324 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: the Trump's diagnosed with comed Night team somehow accelerated the picture. 325 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: From a market point of view, though, I think we 326 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: need to see just a little bit more progress. I 327 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: believe the comments here where that airline aid was was 328 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: looking good, so you really saw the airline rally on 329 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: that um. But on the other hands of State eight 330 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: was still an issue. So the big question is how 331 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: much more complemised is there. You know, we're gonna see 332 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: all these headlines on an optimistic tim but I think 333 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: market purticipants are really looking for some tangible action there 334 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: and we haven't really received that while Trump I'm reading 335 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: from the Bloomberg terminal for today's markets rape. While Trump 336 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: was said to be experiencing only mild symptoms, the president's 337 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: diagnosis adds to gloomy developments around the virus as big 338 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: cities once again turn into hot spots. New York reported 339 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the most new cases since May, while London is said 340 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: to be at a quote tipping point end quote with 341 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: infections continuing to rise. Thousands of job cuts this week 342 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: showed how firms are still wrestling with readjustments needed to 343 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: survive Cretty. What did we learn from the unemployment report 344 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: that came out? Unemployment now at seven point nine percent, 345 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: It missed the mark in terms of the job creation 346 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: for the uh for from the forecast, what have we 347 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: learned about job losses that have become permanent? Well, of course, 348 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: a lot of this is simply coming from the airlines itself, um, 349 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: and that's really why it's airline released Bill self ward, 350 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: You've already seen a few thousand lasts already taken place, 351 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: I believe, just between American Airlines and United it's got 352 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand job losses on the line. So you've 353 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: really see Nancy Pelosi and Steven Revenution kind of fleeding 354 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: with that travel sector to really hold off on doing 355 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: that before they can get that federal aid that Federals 356 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: supports to keep people on the payroll. Now, a big 357 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: point part of the payroll report that we saw today 358 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: show that the biggest drop in in the payroll kind 359 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: of change was coming from a lack of hiring on 360 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: the government front. Now, that makes a lot of sense 361 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: how we talked about budget talks. But on the private side, 362 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: on the private payroll side, you're still seeing a steady rise. 363 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: So really the question once again comes down to how 364 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: much can the government really support the underlying economy. I 365 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: was really struck by the pleading. That's such a great 366 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: way to describe it, the pleading coming from Washington for 367 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: those airline industries not to have layoffs and on at 368 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: the complete opposite. I mean, they ran out of aid 369 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday at midnight, and the c suite sitting there and saying, well, 370 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: what's it? Can so long? I mean, just that tension 371 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: just in the in the ninety seconds we have left 372 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: just described that tension between the private sector and government, 373 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: and and it coming down to the wire and people 374 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: having to make a decision. Well, yeah, I mean I 375 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: think you really phrased it perfectly. Just the fact that 376 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: they're asking CEO the holes off any longer. And remember, 377 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: this isn't a sector that's doing this willingly. They are 378 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: holding off as much as possible as cash burn that 379 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing some of these airlines is in the millions 380 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: per day, um, and that isn't really changing anytime soon. Um. 381 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: So really, both sides, airline CEOs and Nancy Pelosi and 382 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: and see other folks involved in the top really really 383 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: um just trying to put in every best effort that 384 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: they can. What's bad is that you may still see 385 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: thousands of layoffs anyway. And in a week where we 386 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: also learned twenty eight laid off at Disney. Critic up 387 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Markets Live Reporter, thank you so much for 388 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: breaking down all of all of what Hal Wall Street 389 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: reactsed today to to what it on in the news. 390 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Coming up, we have much more on the policy implications 391 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: and the political implications of the Big Driving Force story. 392 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump isn't quote good spirits end quote. After 393 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: his COVID nineteen diagnosis on Friday, he has been treated 394 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: with a Regenera on Pharmaceuticals inc. Quote antibody cocktail end quote. 395 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: The White House physician said this hour, my name is 396 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: Kevin CURRELLI I am the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 397 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: Television and from Bloomberg Radio. More. Next, this is Bloomberg 398 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: broadcasting to the nation's capital. This is w d C 399 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: h F M Booie Baltimore, Washington, w j C F 400 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: M HD to Cadensville. Bloomberg. Why from our nations? How 401 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: do we reopen this economy? The latest on how this 402 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: pandemic is impacting farmers? What does this do for the 403 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: United States relationship with China? 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Physician releasing a 410 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: letter in the last hour saying that the President remains 411 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: in quote good spirits after his COVID nineteen diagnosis, and 412 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: that he is being treated with a regenera On pharmaceuticals 413 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: antibody cocktail. What does it mean for policy and fiscal 414 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: stimulus on a day in which the unemployment rate is 415 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: now at seven point nine percent, missing job creation forecast 416 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: from economists? Plus what does it mean for the Supreme 417 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Court pick this? As the confirmation process moves along ahead, 418 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: we have an all star team standing by through about 419 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: the hour to navigate through the policy and the politics 420 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: and political implications on the campaign tonight. We have every 421 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: angle covered. Let's begin with the latest developments within the 422 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: last sixty minutes. President Donald Trump is in quote good 423 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: spirits after his COVID nineteen diagnosis on Friday. He has 424 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: been treated with a regenera On Pharmaceuticals INC antibody cocktail. 425 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: This is according to a one page memo that was 426 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: sent out from the White House physician Sean Connolly. Via 427 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: statement from White House Press Secretary Kaylee mcinaney reading from 428 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: this memo quote, following PCR confirmation of the President's diagnosis, 429 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: as a precautionary measure, he received a single eight graham 430 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail. In addition to the 431 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, vitamin D, 432 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: faminy dine, melatonin, and a daily asp and they go 433 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: on to write that he remains fatigued but in good spirits, 434 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: and First Lady Milania Trump, who was also infected, remains 435 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: well with only a mile cough and a headache. Re 436 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: genera On share spiked in late trading, rising two point 437 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: seven percent after the market closed in New York. Shortly 438 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: after that memo was released, we also then heard from 439 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, Joe Biden speaking in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 440 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: wearing a mask, urging Americans to do the same, and 441 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: also wishing the first family well as they battle COVID nineteen. 442 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Joining us now to walk us through all of this 443 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: for the next half hour, I'm thrilled to say is 444 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Rick Davis. He is a partner at stone Court Capital, 445 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: the former campaign manager for John McCain's two thousand and 446 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: eight presidential campaign, and a Bloomberg contributor, as well as 447 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: my colleague Josh Green, who was a Bloomberg Business Week 448 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: political reporter. In terms of today as it relates for 449 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: a day in American history. I'm not sure many of 450 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: us knew. Many of us know rather the impact that 451 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: this has on the short term because Washington, at a 452 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: staff level and at a principal level is still adjusting 453 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: to the new norm. Rick, Yeah, I mean, this is 454 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: an October surprise that nobody saw coming. I guess it 455 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: would have been predictable in the sense that there's always 456 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: a risk, especially if you're out campaigning in big groups 457 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: like President Trump has been doing and maskless and most 458 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: of that time, uh that that he runs a risk 459 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: of catching coronavirus. But I don't think anybody would have 460 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: imagined this. Governors. Sure, you know they've they've come down 461 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: with it, other presidents in in other countries, Boris Johnson 462 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: and Bolasarow in Brazil. But we never would have thought 463 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of a campaign, thirty days before the election, 464 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: that the incumbent president United States would wind up contracting coronavirus. 465 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: So if you were looking for an October surprise, you 466 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: got it. And this will have, one way or another 467 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: a profound impact on the campaign. But I could make 468 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: the case that it could be both positive and negative. 469 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: And coming up, we're going to talk about the effect 470 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: that it has on the Supreme Court nomination process with 471 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: Judge Amy Coney Barrett. We're also going to discuss the 472 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: fiscal stimulus implications of this and how Wall Street has reacted, 473 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: how the C suite has reacted to comments coming earlier 474 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: today from Leader McConnell, who spoke within the last hour, 475 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: as well as Speaker Pelosi on the fiscal stimulus front. 476 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: We're also going to dive into the jobs numbers. But 477 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: Josh from a political matter, From a political matter, Josh Green, 478 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: just the past sixty minutes, there is still so much 479 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: uncertainty on how this is going to play out this 480 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: weekend on the campaign trail, the president's re election campaign, 481 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: canceling events for the president himself. It's going to be 482 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: a case by case basis in terms of surrogate events. 483 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden remains out on the campaign trail, speaking in Michigan. 484 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much onnes Well, there is, 485 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: although the one thing we know for certain is that 486 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not gonna be out holding rallies. He's 487 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be out holding campaign events. He's canceled those events, 488 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: and as we just saw in the past few minutes, 489 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden. You know, he's out there, and the 490 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: distinction is pretty extreme. I mean, Biden is out, he's about, 491 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: he's campaigning. I noticed that he made a point of 492 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: wearing a mask through his entire speech today, which he 493 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: hasn't done in the past. I think a way of 494 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: signaling to voters that he's taken a different approach than 495 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: than President Trump. Now what effect this has on the 496 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: contours of the race overall, I'm not sure. I don't 497 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: think I can imagine any scenario where it's where it's 498 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: a positive for Trump. But we've been through countless news 499 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: cycles where, you know, various events seem as though they're 500 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: going to kind of turn over the Apple card and 501 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: shake things up in the race, and what we have 502 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: instead is is more of the same. I think people's 503 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: opinions of the candidates are pretty fixed at this point. 504 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Uh And just just to to to move this even 505 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: into next week where there is a Salt Lake City 506 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: debate vice presidential debate. The Debate Commission has come out 507 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: and said that that is still on between Vice President 508 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Mike pets who tested negative for COVID nineteen and Senator 509 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, who also released a statement saying that she 510 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: has tested negative for COVID nineteen. Joe Biden and Dr 511 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: Jill Biden, his wife, have also released statements saying that 512 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: they have tested negative for COVID nineteen. It was a 513 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: day in which, as a reporter, we were all reaching 514 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: out to every single principle on all sides of the 515 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: across the political ideological spectrum, asking that same question, have 516 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: you been tested, when do you get the results? And 517 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: that became the question of the day. There was confusion 518 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: in Washington. There was befuddlement in Washington. There was an 519 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: anxiousness in the nation's capital that extended not just through 520 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: the halls of Congress, but also to both campaigns. Rick Davis, I, 521 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: based upon my reporting, we are not anticipating any public 522 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: comment from when we will hear from the President of 523 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: the United States. How important is that first on camera 524 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: message from the President of the United States going to 525 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: be when they decide to give it and walk us 526 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: through that process. Well, I think what he's going to 527 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: want to do, because this is just the nature of 528 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: who he is, He's gonna want to communicate to the 529 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: public as soon as possible. Now, whether that's his Twitter 530 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: account which probably won't be affected by his coronavirus UH 531 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: diagnosis or or through a television or statement by the 532 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: by the President our call into one of his favorite shows. 533 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: He's he's not going to stay on his back unless 534 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: the virus is debilitating him in some form. But all 535 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: indications are that he's he's doing well. And you mentioned 536 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: he's received some um booster from Regenera on which would 537 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: be helping his immune system fight the the coronavirus. And 538 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: so we hope well for him. But he's a he's 539 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: not the kind of guy that wants to stay out 540 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: of the public view. So he's we're going to hear 541 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: from him, and I suspect we're going to hear from 542 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: him soon, and I think that message is going to 543 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: be very important. Has he gotten anything from this experience? 544 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: Is this a learning moment for that? I have to 545 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: jump in here. I have to jump in here. We're 546 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: just getting a pool report from the president, a supplemental 547 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: pool travel to Walter Read Military Medical Center in advance 548 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: of the President's visit today. UM, this information was not 549 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: reportable until now. We are awaiting the president. UH and 550 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: UH again, there is a supplemental pool report as it's 551 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: known uh in the industry that a supplemental pool traveled 552 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: to Walter Reed Military Medical Center in advance of the 553 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: President's visit today. This information was not reportable until now. Uh. 554 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: And so that is a breaking development, uh, Josh Green 555 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: and Rick Davis. UH. And and we should note, uh, 556 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: just the continued headlines that have been coming out that 557 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: we got this memo from the president's uh, from the 558 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: UH presidents, from the President's physician in which they said, UH, 559 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: that he is receiving treatment for COVID nineteen. And now 560 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: that red headline crossing the Bloomberg terminal, UH that the 561 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: President to visit at Walter Reed H today. So, wow, 562 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: some new details not breaking. President Trump, who revealed early 563 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: this morning he has coronavirus, is leaving the White House 564 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: for Walter Red Military Medical Center. So the press is 565 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: there and the President now reportedly now going to be 566 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: going to Walter Reed Military Medical Center. He is visiting 567 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Walter Reed Medical Center. Josh Green just put that into 568 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: context for us. The President of the United States diagnosed 569 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen, receiving treatment and now visiting Walter Reid. Well, 570 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: this seems like a responsible precaution when you have the 571 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: most important man in the world stricken with a very 572 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: deadly virus. We know news reports that Trump is experiencing 573 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: a fever. He said to be in good spirits, but 574 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: certainly one would presume that he would have access to 575 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: better medical care at Walter Read than he would in 576 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: the West Wing and the White House. So I assume 577 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: I haven't read the Pool report. I assume is gonna 578 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: be undergoing test and that doctors are going to be 579 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: monitoring his health and hopes that um, this experimental drug 580 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: he's taken has the desired effects, keeps the fever stable 581 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: and his symptoms don't worthen As we've seen with other leaders, 582 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: um it can take anywhere from eight to twelve days 583 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: for the virus to fully manifest itself. We all remember 584 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: UK Premier Boris Johnson tested positive for the virus, seemed 585 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 1: to be fine, and then after a week, entered intensive care. 586 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: So I'm certain that the people around the President, his 587 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: doctors want to do everything they can to make sure 588 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: he's getting the best medical care, even if his symptoms 589 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: are only mild at this point. Rick Davis, just from 590 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: a national security perspective, there's the strategic there's the symbolic. 591 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: Can you put into perspective for us just what this 592 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: means the President Trump will visit Walter Read Hospital today. 593 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: This as he now according to his White House physicians 594 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: on Connolly, we have how he is being treated. Just 595 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: the significance of this moment that he is visiting Walter 596 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: Read Well, certainly from a national security perspective, there will 597 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: be a lot of efforts right now through the various 598 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: chains of communication, the CIA, the State Department, others to 599 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: reassure our allies and to uh inform our adversaries that um, 600 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: the trip is probably uh precautionary, that the President stays 601 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: in total trick. I want to interrupt you because we 602 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: have new information. And then I want and I want 603 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: to get your reaction to From a statement from Press 604 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: Secretary Kaylee Mcinetnie, the President will be working out of 605 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: Walter Read for the next few days. Quote. President Trump 606 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: remains in good spirits, has mild symptoms, and has been 607 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: working throughout the day. Out of an abundance of caution 608 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts. 609 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: The President will be working from the Presidential Offices at 610 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: Walter Read of the next few days. President Trump appreciates 611 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: the outpouring of support for both he and the First Lady. 612 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: End quote again, the President will be working out of 613 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: Walter Read for the next several days out of an 614 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: abundance of cautions. He has mild symptoms. He has been 615 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: working throughout the day, but quote out of an abundance 616 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: of caution and at the recommendation of his physician and 617 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: medical experts, the President will be working from the Presidential 618 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: Offices at Walter Read for the next few days. End 619 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: quote Rick Davis, I'll come back to you now. The 620 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: President will be staying a few days at Walter Read. 621 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: This according to the White House. Yeah, and that just 622 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: ups the anti from an international perspective, especially on national 623 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: security basis, to ensure that our adversaries don't see this 624 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to create problems. You know, there are 625 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: hot spots all over the world, you know, in the 626 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: straight a hor Moose with Iran, you know, between China 627 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: and Taiwan, uh Russia and Ukraine, all kinds of mischief 628 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: from the troublemakers around the world that that that could 629 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: be testing us. So I know that all the national 630 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: security apparatus, as the universe of the United States has 631 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: has been in highlert all throughout the day, and this 632 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: will just make it more important for them to be 633 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: uh sending you know, very strong signals that that we 634 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: won't tolerate any any mischief fire adversaries, but that being 635 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: set on a political basis, Uh, this just drives even 636 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: more attention to this is an issue. Obviously, not having 637 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump on the road and doing his rallies is 638 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: a big loss for his campaign, but a laser focus 639 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: on coronavirus now is an issue. Probably isn't exactly what 640 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: they had in mind either. Thirty days out. If you're 641 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: just joining us, my name iss Kevin's relian the Chief 642 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Washington corresponded from the Berg television and from the Burg radio. 643 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: President Trump is set to visit Walter Reid for the 644 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: next few days out of an abundance of caution. He 645 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: has been diagnosed, of course, with COVID nineteen. He is 646 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: has mild symptoms and has been working throughout the day, 647 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: but he has headed to Walter. Read this as we 648 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: just got word within the last hour or so in 649 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: a one page memo from his White House physician Sean 650 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: Connolly that he has been receiving an experimental drug, the 651 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Antibody Cocktail UH. He has received a single 652 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: eight graham dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail, and in 653 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: addition to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, 654 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: vitamin D, famitadine, melotonin, and a daily aspir and he 655 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: remains fatigued but is in good spirits. The White House 656 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: just within the last several moments um UH say releasing 657 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: a statement saying that he is in good spirits mild symptoms. 658 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: Has been working throughout the day, but out of an 659 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: abundance of caution and at the recommendation of his physician 660 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: and metical experts, the President will be working from the 661 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: Presidential offices of Walter Reid for the next few days. 662 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: President Trump appreciates the outpouring of support for both he 663 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: and the First Lady. Josh Green is with me. He 664 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: has a Bloomberg Business Week political reporter. Just so much news, 665 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: so much significant developments, just on the on the political front. 666 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: Rick touched on the national security front. But from perspective, 667 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: just with an election just weeks away, this is without 668 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: question going to shake up the race, well it is. 669 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what what it tells us for certain is that, uh, 670 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, a race that I think that the Trump 671 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: campaign had been trying to use to move beyond the 672 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: coronavirus in that pandemic, to focus on the recovering the economy, 673 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: to focus on America's strengthen the world, it's relationship with China. 674 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: Uh now has been yanked back to seven focus on coronavirus. 675 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: That I think is probably going to uh and do 676 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: or at least for the next of the weeks. And 677 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: once you get on, once you know your thirty thirty 678 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: days out, we've arrived election day. So um. One of 679 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: the challenges I think Trump had was that if the 680 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: if the race became a referendum on his handling of coronavirus. 681 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: Most voters and polls don't believe he's doing a good job. 682 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to be an advantageous issue now here. He 683 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 1: is both with the focus on the coronavirus and unable 684 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: to campaign and so far even communicate since his diagnosis. 685 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: At one o'clock this morning, I checked just now to 686 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: see Trump hasn't tweeted in more than sixteen hours. So 687 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: I think the world is still waiting to hear from him, 688 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: whether that's on Twitter, whether that's calling into a Fox 689 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: News show. I think the political world now is really 690 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: just riveted on what is his status and when are 691 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: we going to hear from him? When we do? As 692 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: Rex said, what is he going to say? Rick Davis, 693 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: Sploomberg contributor, You, of course, we're also the campaign manager 694 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: to John McCain's two thousand and a presidential campaign. The 695 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: importance of those remarks, the importance of the images that 696 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: we will see of the president if we are able 697 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: to get those images of him going into Walter read, 698 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: the importance of the symbolic nature of that moment of 699 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: the commander in chief diagnosed with coronavirus. Working from Walter read, 700 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,959 Speaker 1: It's it's almost beyond words how important. I mean, put 701 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: this in perspective of just how significant of the of 702 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: the speech this will be, uh and and just the 703 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: the magnitude of this moment. Well, I think that one 704 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: of the things that we really have to consider is 705 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: just how long it will be before we do have 706 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: a speech by Donald Trump. I mean, it's one thing 707 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: to communicate Hey, I'm doing great. You shoot out of Twitter. 708 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: Thanks for all the well, wishing that would be nice 709 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: to see right as Uh, as we've been just talking 710 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: and there's been some time since he tweeted. I'm probably 711 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: setting a record right now since he was president for 712 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: not having tweeted. But it's likely that he won't be 713 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: making any kind of public appearance. I doubt if you'll 714 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: see anything from his visit to Walter Read because he'll 715 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: he'll get in and get out, you know, the way 716 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: most presidents do without without a lot of pictures. Uh. So, 717 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: my my guess is that this is going to remain 718 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: a medical situation and not a political situation until at 719 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: which point in time Donald Trump says it's time for 720 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: me to do something. Um, there was a lot of 721 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: speculation earlier today about well, you know, he's in the 722 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: White House, he's got mild symptoms, and maybe he just 723 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: walks out into the south lawn, holds a little presser, 724 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: says you know, he's doing fine, and sends a message 725 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: that he will be good. Uh, this ups the anti 726 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: Now he's in a medical facility that will take great 727 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: care of him. It's a fantastic facility, but um, it's not. 728 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: It takes away those kinds of options to be seen 729 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: walking from the residents to the Oval office to put 730 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple hours in even in a in a conduce 731 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: of COVID. So um, we're I think, still seeing this 732 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: unravel as an issue. But as I mentioned earlier, the 733 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: idea that today very critical weekend before we get into 734 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, the one month run for the election, and 735 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: all we're talking about is the president's health and COVID 736 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: and that is not what he wanted as a launch 737 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: into October. All right, I want to offer my my 738 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: sincerest gratitude to Josh Green, Bloomberg Business Week political reporter 739 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: and Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital, former campaign 740 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: manager for John mcains oh a presidential campaign, and of 741 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: course a Bloomberg contributor. Truly, no one better and for 742 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: for a newsday like this, So thank you to Rick 743 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: and thank you to Josh. Coming up, we have much 744 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: more to get through. How the market reacted, how leadership 745 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: in Congress on both sides are reacting, What does it 746 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: mean for fiscal stimulus, what does it mean for the economy, 747 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: and of course what does it mean for the next 748 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: twelve hours in America. My name is Kevin Cereli on 749 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: the Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomber TV and Radio. You're 750 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 751 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f 752 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: M HD two. My name is Kevin Cereli. I'm the 753 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio. 754 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Just within the last half hour, new developments on President 755 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: Trump's diagnosis with COVID nineteen, the White House Press Secretary 756 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: Kaylee Mcinetey releasing a statement that the President remains in 757 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: good spirits, has mild symptoms, and has been working throughout 758 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: the day. He is also on going to be visiting 759 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: and working from Walter Reid for the next few days. 760 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: The president quote, the President will be working from the 761 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: Presidential Offices at Walter read for the next few days. 762 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 1: This comes following within the last two hours, the White 763 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: House physician Sean Connolly releasing a memo uh to the 764 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: press saying that the President has been getting treated with 765 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: a regeneraon pharmaceuticals in quote antibody cocktail following PCR confirmation 766 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: of the President's diagnosis. As a precautionary measure, he received 767 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: a single eight graham dose of Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail, 768 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: the physician Sean Connolly said in a statement. In addition 769 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: to the polyclonal antibodies, the President has been taking zinc, 770 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: vitamin D famin to dine, melatonin, and a daily aspirm 771 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: We should know that the President and his wife, Melania 772 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: Trump the First Lady, have been in isolation at the 773 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: White House since his diagnosis, which he announced after Bloomberg 774 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: News reported that one of his closest aids, Hope Pix, 775 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: attested positive for the coronavirus infection. Connolly statement was the 776 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: first update from President Trump's doctor since early Friday morning. 777 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: The President has not tweeted nor made any public statement 778 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: since announcing his infection at am in Washington. We have 779 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: every angle covered. Today was Job's day. We got new 780 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: developments from how Speaker Nancy Pelosi as well as Leader 781 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell in terms of the state of play for 782 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: the fiscal stimulus, whether or not this diagnosis of the 783 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: President and the First Lady will serve as an inflection 784 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: point with regards to fiscal stimulus talks and of course 785 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: the political implications. With me for the half hour Matty Duppler, 786 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: its founder of Forward Strategies, senior fellow at the National 787 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: Taxpayers Union, and former Coalitions director for the House Republican Conference. 788 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: Jeannie Zano is also with us. She's an Iona College 789 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: professor and Bloomberg Politics contributor. Genie I was speaking with 790 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: Rick in the last half hour just about the importance 791 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: of symbolism, the importance of the Commander in chief going 792 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: to Walter Re National Military Medical Center tonight to work 793 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: there from a couple of days that this historic government hospital, 794 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: a medical facility has treated several presidents, several presidents, and 795 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: of course is part of the fabric of the nation's 796 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: capital and the DNA really of Washington, d C. The 797 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: symbolism not just from a domestic political standpoint, but also 798 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: around the world, around the world, and the first comments 799 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: from President Trump are going to be all that more important. 800 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: Jeanie's I know, yeah, absolutely, And of course you know 801 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: watching I was watching Marine one landing at the White House, 802 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: and you know, all of us wishing the President and 803 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: the First Lady are very best as he recovers, and 804 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, hopeful that they say the symptoms are mild, 805 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 1: and he is going there and he's in good spirits 806 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: and is able to work. Um. But it is absolutely 807 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: I had chills watching Marine one land and and seeing 808 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: these pictures out of Washington. UM, and I you know, 809 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: just thinking about this, this moment that we're in. It's 810 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: been such a historic year an election, and for the 811 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: President to have to you know, unfortunately suffer like this 812 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: and come down with this pandemic right at the and 813 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: the other people in the White House, including the First Lady, 814 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: and then to be taken you know, to Walter Reed 815 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: Medical Center. I had, you know, had a chance to 816 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: listen to you know, a former White House physicians say 817 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: that that you know, likely wouldn't happen, they would be 818 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: able to potentially not somebody who's treated him treat him 819 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: at the White House. But to hear that he was 820 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: being moved, I think was concerning for all of us. 821 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: But it was good to hear that at least reports 822 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: are that he is being moved in in good spirits, 823 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: amount symptoms, able to work. So you know, it just 824 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: to your point, is a very sort of stunning moment 825 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: thirty days out of an election, and it would be 826 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: any time, but of course, wrapped up in everything else 827 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: we've all been through this year. The question of the day, 828 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: as we reporters sometimes call it, for all of our sources, 829 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: if you're in the journalism industry, to all of our sources, 830 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: do you have coronavirus? Did you get tested? Who were 831 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: you in contact with? And that was across the ideological spectrum. 832 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just reporters who woke up in Washington 833 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: this morning and we're asking that, but government employees, staffers 834 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: at all levels, and principles themselves. It was confusion, confusion, 835 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: the futtlement as well as an urgency and an anxiety 836 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: that gripped this city and gripped the presidential campaigns in 837 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: a way that we have not seen. Also, speaking within 838 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: the last two hours, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden speaking 839 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail and wearing a mask in Graham's 840 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: Rapids Michigan. Take a listen to Joe Biden and what 841 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: he had to say. I hope that all those who 842 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: are fighting this virus, including the First family and so 843 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: many Americans today recover and recover soon. My prayers who 844 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: went the families on the more than I think seven 845 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: thousand Americans who have died from this virus That was 846 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden speaking earlier this afternoon in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 847 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: matting Zuppler in terms of what this means for the 848 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: short term in the next four hours, Where does Washington 849 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: go from here, both from a political and a policy standpoint, 850 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: Well have I think it's important for our listeners to 851 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: realize just how insulated DC has felt from all of this. 852 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not allowed to go in the capital 853 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: now if you don't work there, but there's no testing regiment, 854 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: there's really no mandate in place for behavior to change 855 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: in the capital. Most of Washington, d C, of course, 856 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: is a lot of white collar workers who are simply 857 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: just working from home. And the results of that is 858 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a lot of urgency to respond to 859 00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: what is a pandemic and economic crisis and completely precedent 860 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: and circumstances. So, you know, the the conversation for this 861 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: entire week has been will there be a deal on 862 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 1: COVID relief on the Hill? And and chances have looked uncertain. 863 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: I would say that the virus hitting so close to 864 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: home and the commander in chief now being amongst one 865 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: of the instructed not to mention the first Lady, as 866 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: well as important members of the White House staff. I 867 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: think that that does start to at least impel the 868 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: negotiators to consider that we have not been acting, um 869 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: by we, I mean kind of washing d C at large, 870 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: has not been acting with the same urgency that the 871 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: rest of the country has felt. And we've seen that 872 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: disconnect again and again and again when we look at 873 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: the economic impact that's being felt very unequally across the country, 874 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: we look at different states really grappling with different public 875 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: health challenges with the coronavirus, it's a little bit an 876 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: equalizer for the President himself all of a sudden to 877 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: be thrust into the throes of the pandemic um And 878 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: what that means for policy in Washington is that potentially 879 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: it could jar some things loose and we could potentially 880 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: see you know, I'm my hope, hope springs eternal, is 881 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: that we could see movement on the Hill for a 882 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: release bill so that the rest of the country that 883 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: is suffering from these circumstances, both economically and from a 884 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: public health perspective, can start getting some certainty. Uh. And 885 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: of course the hope is that that that aligns with 886 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: the President. The first Lady and all the rest of 887 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: the families across this country who are afflicted and affected 888 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: by this virus being able to heal SUD swiftly and 889 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: hopefully if not too many loss lasting repercussions. It is 890 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: uh what normally, in any other circumstances would be a 891 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: largely economic economically driven day coming from Washington, h d C. 892 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: Because we did get that job's report earlier this morning, 893 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: with only six hundred and sixty one thousand jobs out 894 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: of back to the labor market in the month of September. 895 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: This missed most four has the participation rate also dropping 896 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: to sixty four percent, below all estimates, as fears that 897 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: some of the job losses are being made more permanent. Meanwhile, 898 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: the unemployment rate did fall to seven point nine percent. 899 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: The report highlights the depths of the recession, and then 900 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: any hope of a v shaped recovery led by the 901 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: labor market is growing dim. The next administration, whether it's 902 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: headed by Joe Biden or President Trump, will have to 903 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: reckon with that economy and jobs market in a rough 904 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: and jobs market in a rough shape. You mentioned this, Maddie, 905 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: but this seemingly this inflection point, this inflection point that 906 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing with the health of President Trump and First 907 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: Lady Melania Trump, as well as coming from the c 908 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: suite of the airline industry as it relates to airlines 909 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: now having to make some tough calls about job layoffs 910 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: because their stimulus support has ended. Has really put a 911 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 1: renewed pressure Speaker Pelosi, Leader McConnell, Secretary Manusium and President 912 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: Trump in terms of how they are going to talk 913 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 1: about about fiscal stimulus. Take a listen to Speaker Pelosi 914 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 1: on stimulus. She spoke earlier this morning, had I think 915 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: constructive conversations Secretary Manuchin and I but they have not. 916 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: But they are not finished. I'm hopeful, but we do 917 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: come at it from two different places. And she went 918 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: on to urge those airline industries as well as other 919 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 1: CEOs to delay job cuts, saying that an aid package 920 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: was on the way. Meanwhile, President Trump again experiencing mild symptoms. 921 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: It added to just the gloomy development. Jeanie Zano on 922 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: the economic front, Yeah, absolutely, and um, you know, I 923 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: think you're right. So much news if we think the 924 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: beginning of the week started with the tax story, and 925 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: then it was quickly the debate, and then we were 926 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: waiting for this job's report, and all of a sudden 927 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: late yesterday Bloomberg broke that that Hope pix Was was diagnosed, 928 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: and then of course very quickly after that, the President 929 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: had been confirmed and the first lady to have gotten COVID. 930 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's been a head spinning number 931 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: of major stories and just the last week, and to 932 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: end it like this, um, and you know have the 933 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: president again going to Walter Read with hopefully mild sympsons 934 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: as they're saying, UM, you know, it is a very 935 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: sobering moment. You know, I was thinking that because I'm 936 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: talking to you from Westchester County in New York, and 937 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: we had in New Rochelle, where I am, some of 938 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: the first cases that were publicly discussed. Sort of we 939 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: were ground zero for COVID at the very beginning in March. 940 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: And then you know, so many people here and elsewhere 941 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: have suffered to Mattie's earlier point, and to see this 942 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: now really hit Washington, d C. In the way it has, 943 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: and you know, so unfortunately, UM, we saw Nancy Pelosi 944 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: come out today after talking to Steve Minuchin and obviously 945 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: talking throughout the day being more optimistic that they could 946 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,919 Speaker 1: reach a deal, and that this you know, the sort 947 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: of the back and forth that has gone on in 948 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: Republicans balking to a certain extent of how costly it was, 949 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: and Democrats doing their unfair show of walking over the 950 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: last several weeks, that they may be able to come 951 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: to an agreement because of course we need to move 952 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: forward on this. It is very, very difficult to think 953 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: back to the fact that July thirty one was when 954 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: the last deadline hits, and now, of course we are 955 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: October second with a president and the first lady diagnosed, 956 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,959 Speaker 1: and we still do not have a supplemental relief bill 957 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: in place. So you know that. But it is I 958 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: think sobering to me as a political scientist, could think 959 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 1: back to the fact it takes something like this potentially 960 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: if they do reach a deal, which is a big if, 961 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: to make them come to an agreement. I think as 962 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: part of the frustration so many Americans feel with Washington, 963 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: d C. And I think rightly so. And just headline 964 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 1: cross in the Bloomberg terminal from the New York Times, 965 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is taking down negative ads and keeping all 966 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: positive ads. Uh, as of now and UH Bloomberg matching 967 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden pulling negative ads. UH as this continues 968 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: on the eco front, US stock slumps and volatile trading 969 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: as investors wighe the implications of President Trump's positive test 970 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: for the coronavirus along with renewed efforts to forge agreement 971 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: on fiscal stimulus. Jenny, you just captured it. I mean 972 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: this dialogue between the c suite, Wall Street and Washington 973 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: in terms of the job losses, in terms of the 974 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: economic health of the country of the economy. Take a 975 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: listen to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell speaking in Kentucky 976 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: and the four pm Eastern hour at a press conference. 977 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: Here is I'm trying to figure out here whether I 978 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: should predict another bill quickly or not. But the talks 979 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: have speeded up, and that just to reset with Senate 980 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell UH saying that the fiscal stimulus 981 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: talks have reset. Jeanie Sanders with me I own, a 982 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: college professor and Bloomberg Politics contributor, and Matti Duppler, founder 983 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: of Forward Strategy, senior fellow at the National Taxpayers Union, 984 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: and former Coalitions director for the House Republican Conference. I'm 985 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Cerilli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television 986 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and for Bloomberg Radio New Developments tonight as President Trump 987 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: is going to work from the offices at Walter Read 988 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: for the next few days. Walter Read National Military Medical 989 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Center named after Walter Reid, who was a famous scientist 990 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: who researched the yellow fever. And of course this is 991 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the site the military hospital site UH that several presidents 992 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: including UH several presidents have been treated at over the 993 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: past several decades. Again, the President, this, according to a 994 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: statement from White House Press Secretary Kaylee mckinnetney, is going 995 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to be working from the offices at Walter Read for 996 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: the next few days. We got a statement for White 997 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: House from the White House doctor, physician Sean Connolly, that 998 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: said that he is in good spirits and being treated 999 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: with an antibody cocktail, the Regeneron Pharmaceuticals INC antibody cocktail 1000 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: he has following PCR confirmation of the President's diagnosis and 1001 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: as a precautionary measure, he received a single eight graham 1002 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: dose of Regenerations polyclonal antibody cocktail. Sean Connolly, the White 1003 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: House physician, wrote in a statement Matti Doubler on a 1004 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: day in which there was disappointing jobs report, six hundred 1005 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: and sixty one thousand jobs out of the U S 1006 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: economy last month, unemployment at seven point nine percent. This 1007 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: fear that some of these job losses are going to 1008 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: be made permanent, This fear, this economic angst, this economic 1009 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: uncertainty as it relates to the developments of companies like 1010 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Disney laying off tens of thousands UH, the airline industries 1011 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: having to do layoffs and whatnot, and the fear that 1012 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Moore is on the way. The economic health and the 1013 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: commander in chief's health now coupled just thirty some days 1014 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: out from election day, Mattie, Yeah, And September was always 1015 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: going to be a rough month, Kevin, because we've got 1016 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: really the intersection of all of the levers that are 1017 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: are operating the economy. We've got colder weather coming and 1018 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: most of the country September is falling, know n DC, 1019 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: we get some hot days and the rest of the 1020 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 1: country is fall It's getting cooler, um and that's obviously 1021 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: that prohibits us from doing the things that have allowed 1022 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: for more commercial activity to happen, like dining outdoors that's 1023 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna start getting closed down. We also don't know how 1024 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: the virus is going to behave when white we're get 1025 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a little bit cooler, that's a concern. But in addition 1026 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: to that, the things we've talked about already airline support 1027 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: running out, hey roll protection program, the SBA authority for 1028 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: that expired, and of course we haven't had extended unemployment 1029 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: benefits since in the July as Junie mentioned, that's really 1030 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: all combusting at one point. So frankly, it is not 1031 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: surprising that we saw miss on the September job numbers. 1032 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Uh And now with the September numbers coming in at 1033 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: sixty one, we've fallen below a one million job edition 1034 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: every month since we start coming out of this hole 1035 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: in May of this year. So what that means now 1036 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: is the longer and more latent we go without being 1037 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: able to add back those jobs, the longer and more 1038 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: difficult the recovery is. Because what we see on the 1039 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: other side of that equation is more people coming off 1040 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: of temporary furlough, but rather than going back to work, 1041 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: they're falling into permanent unemployment, which is a really, really 1042 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: challenging situation to be in. Um all of that uncertainty 1043 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: really is the biggest challenge the economy right now. Employers 1044 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: don't know what's ahead for them in the in the 1045 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: public health space in these colder months. They also don't 1046 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: know what the head for them in terms of certainty. 1047 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: There's no more lending authorities from the s b A, 1048 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: there's no signal being sent from Congress that they're going 1049 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: to they're gonna have small businesses back. You know, Airlines 1050 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: are kind of the exception here with members of Congress 1051 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: thing we're we're going to support you, but all other 1052 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: industries are also looking and saying, well, listen, we don't 1053 01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: know how long we can make it if things aren't 1054 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,479 Speaker 1: going in our turned to normal either. And of course 1055 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: having a political election I missed all of this doesn't 1056 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: create more certainty for any of those uh, any of 1057 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: those characters operating right now. It's it's it's really, Maddie, 1058 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: you just you did just such a great job. They're 1059 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: just setting the stage in the and the the backdrop 1060 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of the economic moment and just really how the nation's 1061 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: economic health and the president's health now at the at 1062 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: the forefront of not just America's national conversation, but also 1063 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: the global conversation. Jeanie's is also with me, who has 1064 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: just been excellent in terms of as a political scientist, 1065 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: really describing a precise scientific, political political moment that we 1066 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: find ourselves in. And again we just got this headline 1067 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is pulling negative ads as a result 1068 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: of the developments. As President Trump now is set to 1069 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: work from the offices at Walter Read for the next 1070 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: few days UH and is receiving treatment for COVID nine team. 1071 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: There's also a national security element he year, and this 1072 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: is where political symbolism, Political symbolism really matters, not just 1073 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 1: thirty plus days out from a presidential election, from Senate elections, 1074 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: from congressional elections, from a national security standpoint, about the 1075 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: images of a commander in chief being working from Walter 1076 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Reed Medical Facility. This is a facility UH that was 1077 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: opened in November of nineteen forty and Franklin Delano Roosevelt 1078 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: selected the hospital, UH and virtually every president since has 1079 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 1: been treated at at Walter at Walter Reid. And so 1080 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: from a national security standpoint, and Maddie and Genie, I mean, 1081 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I know you both have experienced with this just from 1082 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: the symbolic nature, Genie is no political scientists of how 1083 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: our allies and how our adversaries are going to be 1084 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: looking at this and the importance of the images that 1085 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: are going to be projected it from Washington, d C. 1086 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: From President Trump. Put that into perspective for US JET 1087 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 1: and I want to say that I'm I was very 1088 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 1: happy to hear your report about Joe Biden pulling any 1089 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: negative advertising. I think that's the right thing for the 1090 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: campaign to do. And in terms of how this looks, 1091 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, around the world, there were reports and I 1092 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: heard these reports. I've not seen this myself, that China 1093 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: state media, for instance, was mocking the president's um, you know, 1094 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: diagnosis to a certain extent on state media. Not a 1095 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: big surprise, but I do think it's sort of indicative 1096 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,959 Speaker 1: of what, you know, the concern is um that this 1097 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: is um any time you see a president who falls 1098 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: ill unfortunately or you know, as as we see President Trump, 1099 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: but you know, we hope mild symptoms that have to 1100 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: go to Walter Reid that these are times at which 1101 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: it's not only about the person, but it is a 1102 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: out the person who represents the United States and of 1103 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: course that makes all of us feel incredibly and are 1104 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: incredibly vulnerable. And I just I want to I want 1105 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: to jump in here because we have a new development, 1106 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and I just I want to read the headlines. Uh. 1107 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: There is not going to be a transfer of power, 1108 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: no transfer of power while the President is working from 1109 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Walter Reid for the next few days. This according to 1110 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: the White House, uh, telling our our White House team. 1111 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Uh so, so he's going to be working. I mean 1112 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 1: that that's the the takeaway here. Uh. And Jennie, I 1113 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: interrupted you in thirty seconds, give me your final thoughts, 1114 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and Maddie, I want to get your final thoughts as well. 1115 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jennie, Well, I mean my final thoughts are 1116 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: with the President, the first lady, thrilled that Baron has 1117 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: tested negative, and hopefully everybody impacted recovers quickly and they 1118 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 1: get this bill done in Congress. That is my final thought. 1119 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Jennie's a know, I own a college professor and Bloomberg 1120 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Politics contributor. I believe we actually might have a couple 1121 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: of more minutes, So I apologize. You could have could 1122 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: have gone a little longer, Maddie Doppler. In terms of today, 1123 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean you've worked in every facet in this town. 1124 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, you've been on capital to put in perspective, 1125 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: not on a personal note, but almost put on your 1126 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: reporter hat for me, just how Washington on every level 1127 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,640 Speaker 1: woke up to I mean just got through today and 1128 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: all of this dizzy news and the impact that it's 1129 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 1: had on the employees of Washington, d C. Regardless of 1130 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: who they are, what level they are, and where they work, 1131 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: or or their political stripes. Yeah, you know have a 1132 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 1: part of the criticism, which I think is fair of 1133 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: all of us Moss dwellers, is that we don't get 1134 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: it right. Like we don't We only see things through 1135 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,879 Speaker 1: a political prism, and so when something like this happens, 1136 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: which not only humanizes the president but exposes all of 1137 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: us inside the Beltway to these debates that some of 1138 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: us have only been having kind of in the hypothetical 1139 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: realm um, I think you know for that, in that instance, 1140 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: it requires all of us to remember why we started 1141 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: doing this work to begin with, and that can have 1142 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a very profound impact, right, that can help people all 1143 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: zone in on the importance of the right public policy 1144 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: at the right time and providing leadership in the moments 1145 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of crisis, which sometimes the politics tends to overtake. So 1146 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: if there's anything that can be gleaned from this moment, 1147 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 1: if there's anything that we can understand moving forward about 1148 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: how important it is to really acknowledge our circumstances, I 1149 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 1: hope that's that. I hope it's that the people who 1150 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: are in charge of getting fiscal stimulants done on the 1151 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Hill really realign with their values and their priorities, which 1152 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: is serving the American people who sent them there with 1153 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: a responsibility to provide and care for them. And I 1154 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: hope that, you know, even though this is happening amongst 1155 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,799 Speaker 1: a presidential election, which is a difficult time for the country, 1156 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: to really put aside their differences and talk about things, 1157 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: talk about the things that make us more similar than different. 1158 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: This would be a good example of how we can 1159 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: all understand we're fighting the same battle here, and it's 1160 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: against a faithless adversary. It's not against another political party, 1161 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: it's not against another person. We are all in very 1162 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,600 Speaker 1: challenging circumstances here, and so you know, we don't the 1163 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: show a positive note. If there's something positive to be 1164 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: gleaned here that we can all do better with that 1165 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: we all try to do. Joe Biden tweeting out just 1166 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,640 Speaker 1: moments ago, quote, this cannot be a partisan moment. It 1167 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,759 Speaker 1: must be an American moment. We have to come together 1168 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 1: as a nation ud quote that according to Democratic presidential 1169 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: nominee Joe Biden, it's an inflection point, Maddie, That's what 1170 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. It's an inflection point. It's a crossroads. And 1171 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: not just in terms of fiscal stimulus, not just in 1172 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: terms of fiscal stimulus talks genes, they know, but maybe 1173 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: something deeper. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think the tone of 1174 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's comments are right, and I think, you know, 1175 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Maddie is absolutely right that you know, in the best 1176 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: case scenario, that this becomes a moment where we move 1177 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: forward in a positive direction. My concern is we are 1178 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: thirty days out of a very contentious election, and of course, 1179 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 1: you know that is color so much of what goes on, 1180 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: and not just in Washington, but around the country as 1181 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,799 Speaker 1: we battle for everything from the presidency to the control 1182 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: of the Senate, to the Supreme Court and everything else. 1183 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,679 Speaker 1: So you know, we are at a very precarious moment 1184 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: in that respect, and of course most importantly everybody's health 1185 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: and security. All Right, My thanks to Mattie Uppler, founder 1186 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,639 Speaker 1: of Forward Strategy, senior fellow at the National Taxpayers Union, 1187 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: and former Coalitions director for the House Republican Conference breaking 1188 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: down an inflection point on the nation's economic health and 1189 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 1: the president of the United States health, as well as 1190 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: to Jeanie's you Know I own, a college professor and 1191 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor, offered dissecting all of the different ways 1192 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 1: the policy, the politics of what this means in particular 1193 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: for for the race. And by the way, that vice 1194 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: presidential debate is still scheduled according to the Debate Commission, 1195 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,799 Speaker 1: for next week in Salt Lake City. Both Vice President 1196 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Mike Pence as well as vice presidential Democratic Vice presidential 1197 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:57,600 Speaker 1: nominee Kamala Harris testing negative. For COVID Night Team, my 1198 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: name is Kevin Curreli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent from 1199 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: Bomberg Television and from Bloomberg Radio, and coming up we'll 1200 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: have special coverage with our very own David Weston as 1201 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 1: we continue to report upon the developments. President Trump is 1202 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 1: in good spirits after his COVID nineteen diagnosis. He has 1203 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: received over general on pharmaceuticals antibody cocktail, and he will 1204 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: be working from Walter Reed for that least the next 1205 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,760 Speaker 1: few days. This according to White House officials. Thanks for 1206 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg.