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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who

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Speaker 2: Tells podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host.

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Speaker 2: Rod joined us always on my coast, and we are live,

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Speaker 2: ready to do another.

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Speaker 3: Walking Dead recap.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're the last survivors. We're a little behind, but

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Speaker 2: we're getting caught up. One more episode to go. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the official weapon of the show is the folding chair,

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Speaker 2: and the unofficial sport is bullet ball extreme. And y'all

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Speaker 2: know what we came here to do. We have to

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Speaker 2: go to a Hornets game later on, so we might

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Speaker 2: as well just hop right on in this ship.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, all right.

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Speaker 2: The Walking Dead season eleven, episode twenty three, it's called Family. Karen,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about this episode?

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Speaker 3: In general?

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Speaker 1: Was really good. I enjoyed this episode a lot. One

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Speaker 1: thing I do really like since Angela Angela the King

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Speaker 1: has taken over is she gets all the action, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, she's like, we're not fucking around. She elimited

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Speaker 1: a lot of filler that, you know that I feel

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Speaker 1: like some of the past seasons kind of had had

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Speaker 1: once once it got a little further on, and I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that it was action packed. It was

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Speaker 1: you know, point to point to point to point. You know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't no drawn out stuff because you know, in

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Speaker 1: the past we would have seen more walking montage. It's

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Speaker 1: more of them talking to each other or you know,

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Speaker 1: character development and things like that. But you know, since

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Speaker 1: when you're in the end, it's like, why do all that?

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Speaker 1: If you've been around this long, you know the characters

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Speaker 1: like you know this stuff. You know, they kind of

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Speaker 1: just go to the next point, go to the next point,

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Speaker 1: go to And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually several points where they have like dialogue,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, it's just not drawn out.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with you. I enjoyed this episode as well.

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Speaker 2: It's weird saying like the way we're doing this because

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Speaker 2: it's such a cliffhanger. I wanted to immediately press play

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Speaker 2: on the finale, but you know what we've done with

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Speaker 2: this in the audience, it's like, Okay, we wait another week.

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Speaker 3: We'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: But you know, shout out to us or whatever for

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Speaker 2: the discipline because this one the way it ended, I

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Speaker 2: how does it finish?

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I broke this episode down into three parts, Alexandria,

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Speaker 2: the Commonwealth, and fake ass Zombies. Okay, those are the

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Speaker 2: three parts. I'll probably do Alexandria first, then fake ass Zombies,

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Speaker 2: and then Commonwealth. But yeah, let's let's go ahead and

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Speaker 2: get right into it. In Alexandria, remember we ended with

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Speaker 2: them killing the Rosita killing the warden by letting a

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Speaker 1: His face, and then it was like, when is my

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Speaker 1: baby right?

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Speaker 3: Because she's looking for Coco.

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Speaker 2: We start with another montage, this time is generally about everybody,

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Speaker 2: and we get a montage of everyone using their weapons

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Speaker 2: throughout the course of the Walking Dead.

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Speaker 3: TV series.

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Speaker 2: And then as they're doing this, we see people taking

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Speaker 2: she's talking about how it's about family and legacy. I

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Speaker 2: think ultimately that's why the title this show is family.

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Speaker 2: The one before it was Faith. But I think it's

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Speaker 3: We've heard Judih talk about her family.

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Speaker 2: So it's become a very personal family narrative. She also

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Speaker 1: That was a flashback because that's when they had first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I just said, except I think I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. She then puts Rick's hat.

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Speaker 1: Rositao on a mission. She was like, I don't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she wanted to get her baby back, and she like,

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize this.

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Speaker 2: I was googling who is this character because they're making

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Speaker 3: Yes, dead on site.

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Speaker 2: Princess asked, Magna, is any if anyone can drive the train?

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Speaker 2: Like how do we even know we can drive this

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Speaker 2: Killed herself and she said Magna says, oh, we have

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, that dude that killed himself rather than

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Speaker 3: And then they killed the warden so your kids would

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Speaker 2: You died for Nobody tells some kids how they daddy

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Speaker 2: we need to kill Pamela Milton. I don't know about

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Speaker 2: the rest of these motherfuckers. They got their own reasons

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Speaker 3: To not want to kill Pamela with this Nigga seems.

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Speaker 2: why not.

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Speaker 3: She hugs her show tells him she loves him.

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Speaker 2: Then Annie tells Niggan to be careful and he promise

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Speaker 2: and then Zeke tells him a bible.

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Speaker 2: Judith tells Darryl and Carol that she wants to come

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Speaker 2: and Darryl's plan was for Judith to stay there in

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Speaker 2: it's Judith right.

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Speaker 1: It's also one of those things where I understand his

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Speaker 1: Like out of all these kids, like if something pop off,

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Speaker 1: you got to protect the kids, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

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Speaker 1: out of all the kids, you are literally the strongest,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's like another soldier here versus you

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Speaker 2: But it's also he wants he sees her as a kid,

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Speaker 3: But she's just.

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Speaker 2: And so she basically makes the case for herself and

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Speaker 1: Right. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And as he says this, Maggie overhears it, which is

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Speaker 1: Back to Ezekiel, it takes time, you know, he was like,

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Speaker 2: I know it's got a bad rap or whatever, but

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Speaker 2: I don't care. This show does such a great job

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Speaker 3: That's life.

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Speaker 2: You know, Republicans couldn't get a speaker of a house

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Speaker 2: You know, they can't get over themselves. They can't know.

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Speaker 3: I agreed Judith talks.

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Speaker 3: They are, they really are. Judah notes that Carl died

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Speaker 2: Pay attention. He dies saving people. Okay, it's gonna come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that old man's story. You know, we sit down,

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Speaker 1: I tell you about the shit that happen before you bowing.

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Speaker 3: And the thing is like, it means a lot because.

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Speaker 3: When he's like, I'm gonna tell you about Michean.

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Speaker 1: She was cool, she's good, she good woman.

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Speaker 1: You know, your dad was a good man. We fought right,

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Speaker 1: all right, but I love it. I love my dog.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: To the next segment, Fake ass zombies. But let me

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Speaker 2: all right, fake ass zombies.

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Speaker 3: So last time we left the own the road crew.

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Speaker 2: because it's now.

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00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: It's a small thing.

439
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to act like it's ruined anything, but

440
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: it's a small thing. But it bothers me that their

441
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: faces are not looking like zombies and these fucking soldiers

442
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: are looking at the herd.

443
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: And they don't realize it's a person that have been.

444
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: Having and it's so many of them.

445
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Like it's like maybe they would just think they

446
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: were fresh zombies, but they're people.

447
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: They might even be looking out for something. I don't know.

448
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: It just feels weird. I'm not there's nothing, you know, so.

449
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: Just like a video game, you know how it looks,

450
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: and just be like scans, just be like.

451
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I gree so I guess so these

452
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: are like metal girl, solid soldiers or something. Yep, but

453
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, cardboard boxes in the hall, No

454
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: need to check that.

455
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: Out, no need.

456
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, so they try to make a break from

457
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: the herd, and I did think it was really smart

458
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: and cool how they were talking like whispers where they

459
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: were like.

460
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: We can move now, trees to the left, and everybody

461
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: was doing that.

462
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and I like the fact that because

463
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, if you use your regular noless

464
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: voice one of them, I'm just gonna be like, bitch,

465
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: you ain't.

466
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why the Whispers did it, you know, That's

467
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: why the Whispers did it.

468
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: And now with these variants, who fucking knows.

469
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: But so they try to make a break, they can't

470
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: because they as they get close to the edge of

471
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: the herd, another motorcycle trooper rides over with another herd

472
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 2: that he's fucking like merging with them, and so they

473
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: get stuck in the in the herd. The camera pans out,

474
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: we see the herds emerging. It's getting huge, and they're

475
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: heading straight towards the Commonwealth.

476
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: Yes, as they pan out, because I was like I

477
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: thought I was. My guess was either Hero Alexandria, like

478
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: they're going to one of the two places. Yeah, and

479
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Commonwealth makes sense.

480
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was.

481
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: There's some theories we've had and it's starting to add

482
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: up that it's looking like we're right, and of course

483
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: later we get confirmation in the episode. But we have

484
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: been speculating that Pamela uses these the threat of these

485
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: herds to uh lock down the Commonwealth whenever the has

486
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: some civil unrest, and it conveniently happened when everybody found

487
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: out like her son was making people go missing, and

488
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they needed a curfew.

489
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: Everybody had to get home by lockdown.

490
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: It was like shit that I was like, yeah, they

491
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: pot him close, just close enough so that they could

492
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: hear them.

493
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: And the thing is because she silos people, and she

494
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: has so much information that she's not allowing people to

495
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: share in.

496
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: It's totally feasible.

497
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 2: There's huge swaths of people that are in power but

498
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 2: do not know Pamela's plan. So to them, they're like,

499
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: a swarm is coming and we just need to do

500
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: something about it. Like Mercer is not thinking. Pamela made

501
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: a swarm, so she got her own loyalty in her

502
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: own people. Even within that soldier group of people that

503
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: protect the Commonwealth that Mercer is supposed to be in

504
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: charge of, she got connections or power somehow over some

505
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: of them that he doesn't even have.

506
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: So then.

507
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: They see an abandoned RV where where, and they realize

508
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: we can make a break out of her by walking and.

509
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: Hiding into this RV.

510
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: The Commonwealth soldiers are far enough ahead of us they

511
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: won't see it. Except only three of them make it. Jerry,

512
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: Aaron and Lydia, Jeweles and Luke just literally can't because

513
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: the zombie horde it's like trying to swim up river.

514
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: Its pushing them.

515
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: In a direction, and if you go too far against it,

516
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: they realize, oh it's a person. I'm gonna eat them,

517
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: And so you can't talk. And so we just kind

518
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: of see I think it was Jewles didn't make it

519
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: in and we just see Luke be like I'm with her.

520
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: You're like, she ain't make it. I ain't make it either.

521
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: It's like she went downstream. He was like, well, I

522
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: guess I'm going down river too.

523
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: And that's the difference between an old couple and a

524
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: new couple.

525
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: Yes, it is old couples, like if one of us

526
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: don't make it, we both ain't making We've been together

527
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: for a while, we know what it is, yes, sir,

528
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: But the new couple Elijah and Lydia. They get separated. Yeah,

529
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: Lydia makes it in, Elijah does not. She reaches for

530
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: Elijah to try to pull him in, completely giving away

531
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: the game at I'm a human and a zombie goes,

532
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: oh look human arm takes a bike. Yes, Lydia gets

533
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: bit on the arm. Elijah still gets swept away anyway.

534
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: Right, And there's one of the things. You're right, it's

535
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: one of those things. But her love is just so intense.

536
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: But you're like, hey, hey, like you do know, like

537
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: he'll be safe, like you know what I'm saying, Like

538
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: nobody's attacking him, y'all can always get back up.

539
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: But she was like, no, yeah, teenage love, don't hurt

540
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: me again. But the thing for me is.

541
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: One Elijah's been out there in the zpoch all these years.

542
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: He's made up, he's been able to live, He's been fine. Lydia,

543
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: you're a fucking former whisperer, you know better, And so

544
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: she freaks.

545
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: The fuck out, gets bit.

546
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: Uh. The zombie start banging on the door that closes

547
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: RV door. They pulled Lydia inside. While she's inside, she's

548
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: freaking about about how I can't lose Elijah and then.

549
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: They're like, you're bleeding. The fuck is this.

550
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: Aaron has to say to her, Elijah's gonna lose you

551
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: because you're gonna die from the zombie bite if we

552
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: won't cut your arm off. And so she was acting

553
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: so stupid. This is another what I feel like is

554
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: a regression for the character.

555
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Now, I think you can kind of.

556
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Explain it away about she was triggered because of her

557
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: abandonment issues and losing you know, Henry, losing her mom

558
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: and all these people. But it's such a rookie move.

559
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: It was so I didn't like it. I didn't like

560
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: that she did was acting as stupid because even after.

561
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: She got bit. It was dumb how she got bit.

562
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: But even after she got bit, you gotta buckle down, like, okay, cool,

563
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to die, cut my arm off, this

564
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: is what the fuck?

565
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I get the bigger picture.

566
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Instead, she's like, no, we gotta get him, Like, so

567
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: so you die, Like what's the point here?

568
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Point?

569
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: And why do you suddenly act like Elijah can't survive.

570
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine, you know. And it since they

571
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: didn't have like any foreshadowing or some moment where he

572
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: was talking about some type of fear of being along.

573
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: It just didn't make sense to me. But anyway, Jerry

574
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: cuts off her arm. You know, Aaron tries to tell her, like,

575
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: give her pep, talk about everyone. So many people love you,

576
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: and I cut off my arm and I'm okay, you

577
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be all right, right, they cut her

578
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: arm off. She wakes up in pain. Soon as she

579
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: wakes up, she you know, from passing out. She immediate

580
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: is back on the We gotta get Elijah. We don't

581
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: leave people behind. She's crying and shit. Jerry's like, fuck it,

582
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: I'll go get Elijah. Make sure he's okay. Hey, y'all,

583
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: make sure that Lydia gets to a doctor, because she

584
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: still wanted to come with Jerry.

585
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, the fuck you think you're gonna

586
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: do bleed out?

587
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: She was literally the worst right this time. And I

588
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: know she's probably like a teenage character, but I just

589
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just felt weird that she made

590
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: it this far and then she just completely broke down

591
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: in this episode.

592
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, he leaves. Jerry leaves. The zombies conveniently don't

593
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: try to get into the r V this time.

594
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: But you see their hands.

595
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, excuse us, let me move my hands

596
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: out so y'all can close the door neatly. Now that's

597
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: everything for fake as zombies. Let's get to the Commonwealth,

598
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: all right, this is.

599
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: The action, bigger part of the show.

600
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Probably a little music, all right, the Commonwealth, U, Muico,

601
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: and Max are in an apartment where Mercer busted with Eugene, like,

602
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: I saved them.

603
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: You know, he's not gonna die, and he's like.

604
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: But everybody's looking for him because he was supposed to

605
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: get murdered within the hour.

606
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: Y'all need to lay low.

607
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: I go, I gotta go convince enough troops to be

608
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: on my side so we could take Pamela down. And

609
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: then you Micole and Max Max like, no, we don't

610
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: need to lay low, Eugene, you lay low, but we're

611
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: gonna actually keep the people riled up so that they'll

612
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: be ready to revolt whenever, you know, the.

613
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: Time comes, right, we can't let this dot down.

614
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: A trooper outside whose name is Rose black dude. A

615
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of black people in the Troopers.

616
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: That's kind of interesting with the Commonwealth. Uh, but yeah,

617
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: Trooper Outside lies on his walkie talkie because he's actually

618
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: on Mercer's side, And so he gets a radio walkie

619
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: talking like where's Mercer? You got eyes on him? And

620
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: he's like, look, he's literally looking at Mercer. He's like,

621
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't know where he's at. Uh, but I'll get

622
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: word to him as soon as I see him. So

623
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: this guy knows that Mercer, that that Mercer save Eugene.

624
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: He's collaborating to over throw the government.

625
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: He's got Max and Humicod in this apartment like he

626
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: so he must can be trusted or Mercer thinks he.

627
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: Canna be trusted.

628
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: Right, So they leave Eugene in an apartment and I

629
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: don't know why, but this made me laugh so hard.

630
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: They close the door, They close the door, and fucking

631
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Eugene puts the chain lock on the door.

632
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that's gonna do the chain lock, like the social

633
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: weakes of the chains.

634
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: They're not gonna give up when it's chain locked.

635
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: And if they somehow managed to think the apartment is abandoned,

636
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: you putting a chain lock on the door immediately makes

637
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: some suspicions somebody's in there. Yes, this is such a

638
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: like Eugene thing to do, because he's normally so smart,

639
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: but the coward is kicked in real quick.

640
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: He was like, shit, let me lock the door of Vondo.

641
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: It's like, what a little lock ain't gonna do? She

642
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: told you the weakens of the locks. Oh, so then

643
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: Mercer tells Pamela.

644
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: He goes to meet Pamela in her office and he's like,

645
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how Eugene got away.

646
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: Dog, I somebody's.

647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: Seen them, but were looking for them, were looking for

648
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: whoever helped them.

649
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna figure out who it is.

650
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: But while I'm thinking about it, people have been disappearing

651
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: for a long time and we never found out who's responsible.

652
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: We've investigated, but we still haven't found out. Maybe today

653
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: is the day we're gonna get to the bottom of

654
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: this shit.

655
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: And Pemela ain't like that.

656
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: She was like, I ain't like that shit.

657
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: She's like, well, do.

658
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Your job and go find Eugene and protect the commonwealth.

659
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: But she keeps the black woman who is apparently second

660
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: in command now because she didn't have no helpmet on

661
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: the whole episode. And I don't remember this woman having

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: a lot of lines before, but her name is Vickers,

663
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: and she's clearly like second in command to mercer right now,

664
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: and so she tells the black woman stays behind and

665
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: Pamela tells Vickers, listen, keep it eye on mercer. I mean,

666
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what's up. Just watchs Ever move and

667
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: report back to me. And I want you all to

668
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: go door to door looking for Eugene. You see Eugene

669
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: shoot his ass on site. And then the woman says, well,

670
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: what about the crowd. You want us to use some

671
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: dispersal methods to make the crowds go home, and she

672
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: said Pamela says, no, I'll handle the crowd. Don't worry

673
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: about that, and then the woman leaves, and then Pamela

674
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: picks up a walkie talkie and says, B seventeen.

675
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: So I don't we don't.

676
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we've heard B seventeen before, or if

677
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: we have, I didn't notice it.

678
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't know seventeen's that's a different call.

679
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the like, you know, call, like, uh,

680
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: what it does or whatever.

681
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: Like. So maybe next episode will get like a.

682
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that may have something to do with what

683
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: happened later on.

684
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but I'm saying, maybe we'll get like

685
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: a definitive like what this is now speculating, I'm you know,

686
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's related to the herd of walkers and

687
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: telling the people to like gather the walkers, but also

688
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: the way that it was. Oh you know what, maybe

689
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: she's telling them the location for the walkers to go to,

690
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: because clearly they were organizing those walkers before she said

691
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: that in Milwaukee Talkie. Yes, so maybe she said, like,

692
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: take it to Gate B seventeen or some area of

693
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: the commonwealth that will make be like, oh, we need

694
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: to lock down everybody. I'm sorry B seventeen is under attack,

695
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: but but we definitely know that it's something surreptitious that

696
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: has something to do with it.

697
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, so she says B seventeen.

698
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: We go to the police office where Mercer is questioning you, Micole,

699
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: but it's all fake.

700
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: They both know where Eugene is.

701
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, she trying to fact fake upset.

702
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: How dare you?

703
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's questioning her in front of Vickers to look

704
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: like I'm doing my job and I'm questioning her and

705
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find out where Eugene is.

706
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: But you, Mico isn't saying. Now.

707
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: The one thing is because they believe in that hierarchy

708
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: shit here. I totally believe that if Umico says she

709
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: didn't know, they gotta let her go, even if it's

710
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: highly suspicious, because commonwealth is you're a lawyer, you're a doctor.

711
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: We can't just lock you up like a normal janitor. Right.

712
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: And also it is, you know, one of those things

713
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: where she was like if I knew where he was,

714
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I would be with.

715
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: Him, right.

716
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: So then rose the Blood, the brother that is also

717
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: a guard but seems to be loyal to to Mercer.

718
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: He pops in and says, hey, you got a phone

719
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: call or radio call from somebody named Aurora, and so

720
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: uh he tells Mercer says, basically, y'all can leave, and

721
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: then he tells Vickers, who wants to stick around so

722
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: she can hear this call.

723
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: He tells her, I need the room leaves.

724
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: But even then, she she's gonna note that you told

725
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: her to lead a room. I guess, so either she's

726
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: gonna be like he's up to something. And that was

727
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: like she was basically Lee Trevino in Happy Gilmore this

728
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: whole episode, like she just kept looking at Mercer, like

729
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: every time Mercer did side. Every time Mercer tried to

730
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: help somebody or do something sketchy. She the camera would

731
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: just cut to her face, looking like, what you doing?

732
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: I know you, I know you up to something?

733
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: You know?

734
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: Uh So, then.

735
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: It's Princess on the radio under saying her name is Aurora.

736
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: He said, switch to her old apartment number, that channel,

737
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: the different channel on the walkie talking so people can't listen.

738
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: But once again, even if they someone would have heard

739
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: that part, not that they would have figured out what

740
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: channel they were on, but they would be like, this

741
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: motherfucker's up to something.

742
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: So then.

743
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: She informs them of the plan. We're on the train,

744
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: we're coming to the Commonwealth. We gonna take Pamela down.

745
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be okay with that? He pauses for

746
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: a second, and shit, ever, and he says it real cool,

747
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: like he switches into like deep voice sexy mode and goes, yeah.

748
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: So, and that's because she's what you got on girls, right.

749
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: That's all I was waiting on to say. Let me

750
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: ask you this though, Is anybody else around the radio?

751
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: Can I hear what we're talking about?

752
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something? Right?

753
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: So then.

754
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: She so, he says, yeah, He says, the prisoners if

755
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: she brings back the people that were in the prison camp.

756
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: They can be witnesses, which gives him like a legal

757
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: recourse and reason to take Pamela down as opposed to

758
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: just looking like a mutiny, because he's still obsessed with order,

759
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: doing things the right way, keeping things legal, because I think,

760
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: and you know, you could detract, you could take this

761
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: away from mercy if you want. But I actually think

762
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: it's pretty smart of him. He knows that the Commonwealth

763
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: is used to order in structure. To take Pamela down,

764
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: you kind of need to do it within the framework

765
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: of order and structure, because anything else kind of looks

766
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: like you just usurped power because you're a head of

767
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: the security forces, and that will not last, that won't

768
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: be stable, that'll make you a dictator. So I kind

769
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: of understand of him being like, we have to do

770
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: this by.

771
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: The book, yes, yes, to be sure and to make

772
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: it stick.

773
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: So he tells them how to sneak into the Commonwealth

774
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: using some old access tunnels, and as he's saying this,

775
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: an alarm goes off because a swarm is coming, and uh,

776
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: he has to go because they're the swarm is approached

777
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: from the east and it's the same swarm that Aaron

778
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: and then were part of.

779
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 3: So he goes out.

780
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's preparing that soldiers are going outside the gate or

781
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: to the gates or whatever. They're gassing up the vehicles

782
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: and shit and getting ready to go take on the swarm.

783
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: And as he's doing this, Max comes over. I think

784
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: this is interesting too, because Max is such an interesting character.

785
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: Because the way that Pamela hasn't like locked her in

786
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: a room somewhere, it's just wild to me.

787
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: I guess you could make the argument.

788
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 2: Well, Mercer's the king of the police, so why would

789
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: she do that? But it feels like the kind of

790
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: thing Pamela would do and then expect Mercer to just

791
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 2: do his fucking job.

792
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: This seemed like that kind of thing.

793
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: But anyway, Max talks to Mercer and they try to

794
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: do it surreptitiously, like he's handing her stuff or they

795
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: hug and he's telling her.

796
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: Like like the period he talked out lie, Yeah, like

797
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I told everybody else, you need to go on and

798
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: get inside, right, so follow the protocol woman, right.

799
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: But then he would hug her and be like, my

800
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 3: girlfriend coming back. Don't worry, she bringing some people.

801
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: Hey girl, don't forget the Dinners at seven part of

802
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: the ruse, right, Uh, but he tells he says girlfriend

803
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: too talking about Princess, So I guess, you know, maybe, uh,

804
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: maybe he was a little more conflicted than he looked

805
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: at the episode. But why he's doing this and the

806
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: reason he's talking out loud like that and then hugging

807
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: her and whispering shit is because oh, hating n ass Vickers.

808
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: Come on, hate nass Vickers.

809
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: Who decided to just be that bitch at work. It's

810
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: just hating and looking and going. He hugging his system.

811
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: Writing it down in my notepad sums up. And she

812
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: even talks to like the I don't know if she

813
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: talks to Rose, but she talks to another guard in

814
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: the background, so I don't know if Vickers is asking

815
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: like Rose questions to be like, so, what is what's

816
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: going on with him?

817
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: Have you noticed anything or what? But she's clearly on his.

818
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: Ad on Mercer's like ass to try to figure out

819
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: like who sidey on?

820
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Right, and he knows that she's been looking at him

821
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: crazy too, right, But basically he hugs Max Mercer does

822
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: and tells her listen, uh, my girl and her people

823
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: coming in from the like from the south or the

824
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: access tunnels.

825
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 3: I was supposed to go get them.

826
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: I can't, so I need you to hide them until,

827
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: like I get back from dealing with this horde of

828
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: zombies outside. And Max is like all right then, but

829
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: they say this all in a whisper hug uh. Our

830
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: group gets off the train, they hide in the woods.

831
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: They fuss a little bit, they get too loud. Some

832
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: guards here them and and the fuss is like, you know,

833
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: nigga gon we just sitting ducks.

834
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: We gotta make a move versus not coming.

835
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: And then uh, you know, Carol's like I'm gonna I'm

836
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna make a move around by myself. I'll sneak in

837
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: a different way and then you know, and then you

838
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: just like shut the fuck up.

839
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: And then the.

840
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Guards shouldn't want to tell them. The dost y'all too loud.

841
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: The guard is like you hear something, and then uh,

842
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: they get called away on the walkie talkie. They get

843
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: orders to go reinforce like the wall and it's back

844
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: up for the hoard that's coming. And guard even questions,

845
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: He's like even access tunnel h like y'all want us

846
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: to move and they're like everybody and so like this

847
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: is the big problem. So we basically know that, you know,

848
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: they got the orders conveniently at that time to leave

849
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: the area where our.

850
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: Crew was sneaking in.

851
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: So they they sneak in, probably had something to do with Mercy.

852
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Mercy probably had somebody that called him out of the area.

853
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: Back in her office, Pamela is talking, gets a call

854
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: from Vickers, the snitch, and she tells tells her, hey,

855
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: I've been watching Mercy.

856
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: He met with his sister. He went to stop the swarm.

857
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: But he also recalls soldiers from the access tunnel area,

858
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: which is where our crew just infiltrated, you know. And

859
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: Pamela thinks about it, and then Vickers like, you want

860
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: me to recall them troops tell them to go back there,

861
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: and Pamela says, no, I'm sure Mercy has his reasons.

862
00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Burr Face says, right, her face is like, I can't

863
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: trust him. He got to be up to something. And

864
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: so Mercer goes to the wall and he's giving orders,

865
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: directing the soldiers to protect the herd.

866
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: And he's really doing his job.

867
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: At this point because he does see the hurt, protecting

868
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: the commonwealth from this herd is an actual threat, you know.

869
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: But out there in the fucking while, like beyond the wall,

870
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: some of the soldiers are on jeeps and they're trying

871
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: to lead the zombies away. And I don't think it's

872
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: the same the same soldiers that.

873
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Led the herd to them, different group.

874
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: But these motherfuckers get killed because a variant hops on

875
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: the back of the fucking right and.

876
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: It was like, I want to ride, and it was

877
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: quiet as shit.

878
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: It hops on, the jeep, pulls itself up, stands up.

879
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: We don't see it attack and see the thing flip,

880
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: probably just a money thing and stunt thing or something,

881
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: but we hear it through the walkie talking with them

882
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: being like, oh no, it's got me. Oh Papa got crash.

883
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: And then we see the aftermath when Mercer looks out,

884
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, with his binoculars and sees the jeep is

885
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: flipped over, the.

886
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Jeep turned over like somebody kid playing playing with the

887
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: toy jeep.

888
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: Right, so that they're dead.

889
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: And and also this means they're not gonna be able

890
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: to keep the zombies from from approaching the wall.

891
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Now, right, because that whole job was to kind of

892
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: herd them around and give the zombie something to pay

893
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: attention to.

894
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: So then Mercer tells everybody fall back on him, regroup,

895
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go out to the wall. We're

896
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: gonna kill the swan before it can get to the city.

897
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: While this is happening, Eugene paces in the apartment til

898
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: security knocks on his door because they're going door to

899
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: door doing that search. And that's when he realizes, oh shit,

900
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: I gotta unlock the chain lock.

901
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: And he also realized, oh shit, this chain lock is

902
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: the weakest weakust lock. I doulig you.

903
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's not why he did it.

904
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: He did it because if they try to open the

905
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: door and the chain like is on, they know you're

906
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: in there, right, That's why it was stupid.

907
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: That's why I laughed off.

908
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: It was stupid in the first place.

909
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just like.

910
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: Way to let him know you're here. So the soldier says, hey,

911
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm coming in, opens the door. Eugenie hides behind the door,

912
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: ambushes the trooper, and he don't just ambush him, he

913
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: slams this motherfucking down like.

914
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: He spears on like you in a wrestling.

915
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: Move like his Stone Cold Steve lostin and then takes

916
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: a flash, like, takes his helmet off, knocks him ups

917
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: out of the head like full times, knocks him out right,

918
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Eugene gangster, What the fuck? And then on the walkie

919
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: talkie he hears another soldier asked for a check in,

920
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: like what's your twenty such and such, which means like,

921
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: Eugenie need to get the fuck out of there because

922
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: this dude looking, they're gonna come looking for him. But

923
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: I was shock that look at the big balls on Eugene.

924
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: Who knew?

925
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Who knew?

926
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Our crew that got off the train, you know, Carol,

927
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: Darryl is, all of them, Connie Kelly, everybody had some extras,

928
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: some prisoners, and so they all head to Pamela's headquarters

929
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: in City Hall. But it's an ambush because they see

930
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: the doors are locked, like it's well fucking.

931
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: The third act of Lean On Me.

932
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: That was like it's too quiet, like literally everybody was missing.

933
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: I was like, well she did lock the shit down,

934
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: but it was like I don't remember dealing. Somebody was

935
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: like something ain't right.

936
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: It's not just that it's too quiet.

937
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: If you look at the doors, they're locked with chains

938
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: and like locks on them. So this is a kill box.

939
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: Now there's one way in, one way out. Basically, they

940
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: just finished shoot y'all up, and so as they're noticing this,

941
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, ju just like what's wrong or whatever, Tyler goes,

942
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: come on, guys, we're almost there. Loud as hell, and

943
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: Emula gets killed. So we hardly knew your Tyler, hardly

944
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: knew you. You didn't get to change the people's hearts anyway.

945
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: So then a bunch of extras get shot by Pamela's men,

946
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: but the plot armor protects our people for a long time.

947
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: There's lots of shooting in the kill box. Her Pamela's

948
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: men are on a balcony, so they kind of have

949
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: the high.

950
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: Ground, yes, the advantage, and so.

951
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: You know, our people are just getting rained down on

952
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: by bullets. They're shooting back, but it's just, you know,

953
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of shooting and very few people

954
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: getting hit except for extras and stuff. But then one

955
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 2: soldier gets killed. Pamela comes out of her office, picks

956
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: up this soldier's rifle and starts shooting.

957
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: And starts motherfucker bucking.

958
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: I did not know, just took her to the next

959
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: level for me.

960
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know she had had it in up

961
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: because she up there and went down. I was like, bitch,

962
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I just scared. She was like fuck no by.

963
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: Apparently she's a real one and our gangstop.

964
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: I get it, horns, Okay, I get while you was

965
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: on your knees ready to let mama give you a

966
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: spanking because she was giving that energy. She had big

967
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: dick energy.

968
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Yes she did.

969
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: But she starts shooting and she goes to shoot Maggie,

970
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: but Judith runs and knocks Maggie out the way to

971
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: save Maggie's life, but of.

972
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: Course Judah gets shot. Yep.

973
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: And this reminds me of Carl Carl getting shot in

974
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: like season three, I think when they made it to

975
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: the farm with Herschel but he gets shot by Herschel's

976
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: son in law or something in the woods because he

977
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: was trying to shoot a deer but he accidentally shot Carl.

978
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: And she had just talked about her brother dying trying

979
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: to save people. This is literally her trying to save somebody,

980
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 2: everything about her family and her legacy, all the people

981
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: she's lost.

982
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: And she looks at Maggie like a hunt.

983
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it just made me think about all

984
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: those parallels as she got shot. Everyone sees it and

985
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: they go ham and it makes you wonder how hard

986
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: were y'all shooting in the first place. Y'all could have

987
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: been shot the whole time, because after they shot you,

988
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: if everybody got information and they took them motherfuckers out

989
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: except for Pamela and one other dude who managed to escape.

990
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: But before she escaped, Pamela yells, you did this, blaming

991
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: them for the girl getting shot.

992
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: Like if y'all would have just been slaves and died.

993
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: This, we wouldn't have been here all.

994
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: Why couldn't y'all go to the plan.

995
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Plantation?

996
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: Darryl said, yeah, the plantation.

997
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: Daryl says, we gotta go because they need to get

998
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: you to some medical attention. He tells Zeke to throw

999
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: a fire sting with her thebalcony, and then Darryl takes

1000
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: Rick's gun and shoots it and it gives them cover

1001
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: the escape because the whole room feels with smoke.

1002
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: So they did it fall him everywhere. It was hard

1003
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: to wipe off because I hate that shit. When I

1004
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: used to find it was that time.

1005
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 2: Mercer gets arrested for treason by Vickers in the middle

1006
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: of him trying to save everybody from the swarm.

1007
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: That shit didn't make no sense.

1008
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Now, soon before Pamela set up the kill box, she

1009
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: hit the you know, hit hit hit Vickers on the

1010
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: hip and said, hey, go ahead and erace mercer. Arrest mercer,

1011
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: because I know something's going on. Because by that time

1012
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: she knew something, because if she knew to make the

1013
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: fucking City Hall of kill box, then she knew she

1014
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: was planning on some shit going down.

1015
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: So it was like, even if he isn't, he might

1016
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: be in on the plan. So I just want to

1017
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: stop him before he makes it makes it worse.

1018
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: So they arrest him on trees and charges, so she

1019
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: thinks he's part of it.

1020
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: Uh, he comes willingly, but he.

1021
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: Tells his soldiers to watch the perimeter and take care

1022
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: of the swarm of walkers because once again he's seeing

1023
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: the bigger picture.

1024
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: Yes, it his His boy was like, nook, if you book,

1025
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: he's put your guns down, the'll put your guns down.

1026
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: They they was they was ready to go.

1027
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, his soldiers would have fought for him to the death,

1028
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: I think, but I think he knows that that loss

1029
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: of life wouldn't have helped. So he's he's like you know,

1030
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: this is bigger than Pamela's bullshit.

1031
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: To Vickers, it's like they don't you see the swarm out.

1032
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: There, as Vickers does not realize this. This is another

1033
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: case of an information silo situation, because at first I

1034
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: thought Vickers was in on all the dirty shit.

1035
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: Later we'll see for sure.

1036
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: She's not, But in this moment, she's kind of a

1037
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: little bit shocked by him saying this is bigger than

1038
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: her bullshit. Make sure y'all stop that swarm, and like

1039
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: she's like she's a little like a little surprised that

1040
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: she's not like, you know, in on the Pamela Milton,

1041
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: we secretly own slaves shit. So then you, Mico and

1042
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: Max see Eugene sneaking around because he's now wearing a

1043
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: hoodie and he's got a gun, and they decide to

1044
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: go around and group up with him. He sneaks around

1045
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: back and knocks a soldier out. Umico and Max follow him,

1046
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: and they're right, and then it gets salad and that's right.

1047
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: He looked like medical salad. Yes, okay, And I'm like,

1048
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: he has the mullet and he had the fucking like

1049
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: camouflage thing. But the thing that was interesting is he

1050
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: was going to city Hall, meaning like that's what Pamela is.

1051
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was playing on going there

1052
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: and killing her or what.

1053
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: Right, But he gets the city Hall and as he

1054
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: happens to be trying to break in, that's when Darryl

1055
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: and the crew with Judith and they're coming out, and

1056
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: so they basically reunite right there. And at the same time,

1057
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: the East Gate finally gets overrun by walkers, and the

1058
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: reason is because a few variants start climbing the fucking walls.

1059
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and when the dude was like, hey, dog, the

1060
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: walkers is climbing, that was like, what what are you

1061
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: talking about? He's like, I'm serious, y'all, Like they climbing,

1062
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: oh now? And then this thing, you know, you here go.

1063
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: It was great camera work because they show him on

1064
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: his walkie talkie being like the look at those walkers

1065
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: over there, they climbing the fucking poles, y'all, we need help,

1066
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: and then to his when the camera pans back to him,

1067
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: suddenly in the view on his left side where he

1068
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: can't see, a walker has climbed up and is standing

1069
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: next to him.

1070
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: Now convenience zombies.

1071
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: This was hilarious the walker.

1072
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: It whooped his ass like it didn't just bite him,

1073
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: it like ripped his helmet off.

1074
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: And ship.

1075
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: He was screaming all the time, the fut bitch Commonwealth

1076
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: softest baby shit man, they are the worst, like for

1077
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 2: them to be, for them to be doing all this ship.

1078
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: They are the softest motherfuckers in the earth. All that

1079
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: armor for nothing.

1080
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: Just big.

1081
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: It's just like a They're like an NBA center that

1082
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: just sorry, Well you're like.

1083
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: You are you tall? What's wrong with you?

1084
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: What?

1085
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: So? Anyway, they they he dies and as he dies,

1086
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: he hits the open gate.

1087
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, hilarious. He was like, oh, why when

1088
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: I go ahead open this gate for I die?

1089
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Conveeni zombies strike again.

1090
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: Yes, So Vickers informs Pamela of the perimeter breach in

1091
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: her office.

1092
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: She's got blood on her face from the people.

1093
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: That died, and Pamela didn't believe her, and she yeah,

1094
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: it's not possible, and she lets it slip a little bit.

1095
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: She goes, this is not possible. This is supposed to

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: be a standard, I mean supposed to be a lockdown.

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00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Now.

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: I think what she was trying to say is this supposed.

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: To be a standard, like get the swarm, make everybody

1100
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: get into lockdown until I can figure something out.

1101
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: But she almost slips up.

1102
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: Vicker notices a little bit but doesn't get suspicious, and

1103
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: she tells Pamela, like, I got a plan to say

1104
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: the city. It's a long shot, but we could do this, this,

1105
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: and this. Pamela says, fuck all that shit. Put some

1106
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: soldiers outside my house and then put them outside the

1107
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: rest of the rich people houses will divert.

1108
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: The swarm to the lower wards.

1109
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: And the woman's like that, like that's pretty much a

1110
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: death sentence to everybody living in the lower wards. And

1111
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: Pamela's like, we rich, you protect the estates and seal

1112
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: the rest off.

1113
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: That's the job, Go do it.

1114
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why she don't think that. As you're

1115
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: talking to people, Greasy, it's life and death. These are

1116
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: people that are like trained with weapons. Shit like this.

1117
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting in the next episode because it's like, yeah,

1118
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: these people can't turn around and blow you away at

1119
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: any point in time for you talking to them, Greasy.

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00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: Well, one, she's panicking. She just shot a kid, and

1121
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: she also her plan is going wrong. Does walkers are

1122
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: now inside? And I think also This is just classic

1123
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: TV writing. As we get close to the end, she

1124
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: is just so nakedly villainous.

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00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: Like just even five episodes.

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: Agod would have been like, I don't know, like Pama's

1127
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: ineffectual and she loves her son and.

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: That's her weakness.

1129
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, oh, you're the You might be

1130
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: literally one of the worst villains if you think about it,

1131
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: maybe even worse than Megan in a way, and Megan's terrible.

1132
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: She may be worse than Megan. She just don't swing

1133
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: the back right.

1134
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: But she fucking put people into like literal slavery and

1135
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: take away their kids and shit. Like she's evil as

1136
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: fucked and sure, and it's just all coming down around

1137
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: her at this time, and she's letting the slip show

1138
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: because Vickers even notices that part once she gets to this.

1139
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: You can't not notice when the woman's like, let the

1140
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: pope people die.

1141
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that's wrong.

1142
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, Vickers might have family and shit like

1143
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: that down there, and you're like, fuck them too.

1144
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, it's just a thing where everyone knows it's wrong.

1145
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: It's not you know, whether she got family or not.

1146
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: I know that what you're saying is not what a

1147
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: leader should say.

1148
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, while you got all these Starship troopers and they

1149
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: ain't doing shit.

1150
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Uh So Darryl runs while carrying Judith, and the troopers

1151
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: are now ignored them because they're sealing their lower wards off.

1152
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: They not even trying to catch the group no more.

1153
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: And this is a big ass group. They can't like

1154
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: hide them. They didn't even shoot at them. They basically

1155
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: was like, fuck it, the Walkers get them. We got

1156
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: bigger fish to fry. The Walkers are in the fucking

1157
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: in the community, so whatever, right, And we even see

1158
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 2: I think my favorite part of this is we see

1159
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: one of the Walkers climb on top of a car

1160
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: and Megan goes, what the fuck he did?

1161
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Because they had never seen that.

1162
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: Before, such a random thing. Also, man, so glad they

1163
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: finally allowing cursing. I don't know what the fucking hold

1164
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: up was, but they should have been cussing from season

1165
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: four at minimum, right, But to have not that Jeffrey

1166
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: de Morrigan did a bad job. He did a great job,

1167
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: did a even better job than than I could expect.

1168
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: But me I now can't help but think if they

1169
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: would have allowed Megan to cuss the way he did

1170
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: in the comics' how fucking cool that would have been

1171
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: for Jeffrey Morgan, but maybe maybe it wouldn't have come

1172
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,959
Speaker 2: across the same and live action, But man, I wanted

1173
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: him to try because he hit that What the fuck?

1174
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: And I said, that's my knee and that's the one

1175
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: I wanted, you know, But uh, anyway, he's just what

1176
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: the fuck. Luke and Jules escaped from the herd and

1177
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: join up with our crew.

1178
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 3: They almost get almost.

1179
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: Get shot, and they was like, look all, y'all look

1180
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: the same to us.

1181
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: But Kelly stops everyone from shooting them, and then Judith.

1182
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Daryl takes Judith down an alley and the rest of

1183
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: the crew seals the walkers away by pushing them and stuff.

1184
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: And Carol could have opened it for Maggie, did ye, Maggie?

1185
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter.

1186
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: Just they protect Judith and Darryl because family, that's what

1187
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: it's all about. And as Daryl's carrying her away, Judas,

1188
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: who's kind of half half and half out with obviously

1189
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: blood loss and shock, says Daddy and then at ends

1190
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: the episode.

1191
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: So oh man, what a sad, sad state of events.

1192
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: Hopefully she'll be all right. We got one more episode

1193
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: to find out. Karen, what are you looking forward to

1194
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: next week in the finale? The season FINALEES series finalege.

1195
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: Serious, this is gonna be really interesting, uh, to see

1196
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: the fall of Pamela Milton, because she she got to die,

1197
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I not tRNA find this is something

1198
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: where I will be shocked if she survived this, or

1199
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: if she does survive, she's gonna be going to jail

1200
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: like or something, because you can't send all those zombies

1201
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: down there and don't think the people are gonna be like, hey, bitch,

1202
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: you sent these zombies to fucking kill us, Like we've

1203
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: seen the soldiers box them in here so that they

1204
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: couldn't float everywhere, like come on down.

1205
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to Pamela dying. I kind of have.

1206
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see one is the next episode like

1207
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: longer than normal? I could see that, or if they

1208
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: do this thing where you kind of wrap up the

1209
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Pamela shit early with the Commonwealth and then the rest

1210
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: of the episode could be like almost a flash forward

1211
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 2: or something. Because I feel like they got a lot

1212
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: to they need to accomplish a lot in this last episode.

1213
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: We know they're doing spinoffs. There's a Rick and macheone

1214
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: movie coming.

1215
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: There's a series, isn't it? No, Okay, just a movie.

1216
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: That's what I heard. I mean, let's maybe I heard wrong.

1217
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a movie, but I didn't know if

1218
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: it was a series two in addition to the movie.

1219
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

1220
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I really don't know. I know

1221
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: the I don't know. I'm looking it up now. I know.

1222
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 3: For a while they wanted.

1223
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: To do a series, but then the actor that plays

1224
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: Rick left and then of course the niagarera blew up

1225
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: with the movies and stuff, and it seemed like she

1226
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: left and they didn't have time. But it's says series

1227
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: on im d B doesn't say how many episodes it'll be,

1228
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: and it only has one down as the thing.

1229
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. They just aired one episode so far.

1230
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. I don't know that it's

1231
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: even aired. So they have air this.

1232
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh I'm asking because you know, okay.

1233
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I don't think this has come out yet, okay,

1234
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea. Like so,

1235
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking forward to see how they tie

1236
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: that in. If they do that, you know, uh, and

1237
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't want I'm not gonna google too much because

1238
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: I don't want any spoilers. But okay, someone in the

1239
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: chat said, it's a series, six episode series.

1240
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so it has an aired yet, and Daryl has

1241
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: one this actually.

1242
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: Daryl, Yeah, so and I maybe Carol's going to be

1243
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: in it or something. Anyway, point being, I think they

1244
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: have a lot to do to try to like set

1245
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: those things.

1246
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: Up and in this storyline.

1247
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: And it felt like there was a future Judith that

1248
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: does the narration. So I'm wondering if we get a

1249
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: flash forward to a new actress playing Judith or something,

1250
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: and uh.

1251
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: You know, and this is where the series is going

1252
01:03:59,280 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: to go.

1253
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: From here thing, but uh, whatever happens, I'm just looking

1254
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: forward to it. I love this show. It's gonna gonna

1255
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: suck to say goodbye to it. But you know, and

1256
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll be recapping all the spin

1257
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: offs and stuff, to be honest, because there's a lot

1258
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: of like just work, yes, and these numbers are not.

1259
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: Big when we do this, like, uh, we.

1260
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: Do it because we love talking each other about the

1261
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: show and stuff. But uh, and we love and we

1262
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: want to finish this out with our fans. But that's

1263
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: This will probably be it for us with Walking Down recaps,

1264
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: other than we might do some quick and dirty fear

1265
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: you walking Down to wrap that up. But uh yeah,

1266
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: thanks for listening to everybody. We'll be back for the

1267
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: finale next week. Until then, I love you you wh