1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Floomberg Sound on 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: This election isn't a referendum us at choice. It's a 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: choice between two fundamentally different visions of America. Did you 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: see the poll that just came out Women love Trump again? 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound on politics, Policy, and perspective from DC's top 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Name by January. I'm gonna keep feeling better and better, 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: but but Dr Oz will still be a fraud. I 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: will bring change to Washington so they treat us the 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: way we deserve. But I know in three days it's 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a new day in PA. Bloomberg Sound On 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Final Countdown to the Election. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the fastest hour in politics on this election eve, 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: with final polls and predictions out, final arguments by the 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: candidates on the trail. We're joined by Jessica Taylor of 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: The Cook Reports. Straight Ahead, we'll check in with Maryland 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: centered Ben Cardon on his way to see President Biden 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: tonight at a rally for Democrats on the very same 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: night Donald Trump is stumping in Ohio. We'll talk with 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Ryan tigue beckwith on voters splitting the ballot, and 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: we'll run it all past the panel. Bloomberg Politics contributors 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Genie Schanzano are with us for the hour. 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get you set for everything that may happen 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow as we lay out the possible scenarios here for 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: what could be by the way, not just tomorrow, but 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: days ahead, figuring out what in the world happened in 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: the mid term campaign. The mid term elections polls open 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. So today was the last full day of 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: campaigning and followed a weekend very busy one on the 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: trail with Donald Trump out there, President Biden out there too. 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: This election isn't a referendumous at choice. It's a choice 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: between two fundamentally different visions of America. I've set from 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: the beginning. My objective when I ran was the building 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: a conifer in the bottom up, in the middle out 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: And I tell you what, it's a fundamental shift. It's 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: working compared to the mega mega Republican trickle down economics. 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Yet it's not supposed to matter. Based on the polls, 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing Republicans set to win the House, and it 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: looks like the Senate too, and that's where we begin 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: with Jessica Taylor. Things have changed a lot since we 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: started talking with Jessica a few months ago, Senate and 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Governor's editor for the Cook Political Report. She's with us 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: now on election. Even Jessica, the momentum has been in 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the Republican direction. Now it seems for weeks will Democrats 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: both lose chambers tomorrow. The House is a farm looked 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: further gone in the Senate. The Senate is still very 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I think we're still going to be very, very close. 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: But Democrats wish this election had been held about a 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: month ago, and I think they could have kept the 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Senate at that point. But the closure it gets to 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: election day, the more worried um Democrats that I've talked 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: to have gotten and the more bullish Republicans strategist that 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I talked to have gotten. So we changed our range 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: from you know, a cup back in September we said Democrats, 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: we had a range of anything from Democrats picking up 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: one seat, two Republicans picking up two seats um and 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: right now we have changed it to just no net change, 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: which would mean that Democrats continue to keep the Senate. 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: But it's fifty again. Vice President Harris is the deciding vote, 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: up to a Republican gain of three seats. So there 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: are a couple of different scenarios in there. We could happen, 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: We could see happen, but three out of four of 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: those could be could be Republican slepping the Senate. Yeah, 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well we're talking about the Senate. You 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: consider Pennsylvania and Georgia too close to call. One could 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: go to recount, what could go to run off? How 66 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: long will it be before we know who controls the Senate? 67 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be on election night. 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: All the we could see candidates channel Trump had come 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: out there in and declare victor read it's I don't 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: think the ballots are going to be as lopsided as 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: they were amidst the pandemic two years ago. But you 72 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: have places it can't even start to count mail in 73 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: ballot until election day. Um. So the states that have 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: other laws where they can at least start hearing them 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: and counting them, we know those results even more. We 76 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: know that Democrats are more likely to vote early or 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: to vote absentee, whereas Republicans usually turn out on election day. 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: And if we're seeing big turnout. That's something that could 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: benefit Republicans. It could be a couple of days, maybe 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: even a week um to fully know if Pennsylvania is 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: really really close. It was in the UM and the 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: and then the Republican primary there the Senate was decided 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: by less than a thousand votes between Dr Oz and 84 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: David McCormick there, and you're right, Georgia, it could go. 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: If no candidate gets over, then it could. It will 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: go to a run off. That's on December six, a 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: month earlier than we saw two years years ago, so 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: only maybe ruining one holiday and that other one. So 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: that's the and that's the question. And I think the 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: scenario changes based on whether it's that race is for 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Senate control. It could be deja vu again that it 92 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: comes down to Georgia there, and that's not a scenario 93 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: that Democrats like in their favor. But I also think 94 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: you have, of course the Republican nominee, their football star 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker, who has been a weaker candidate. He benefits 96 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: from having the Governor Bryant Hemp on the ballot. That 97 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: actually could help him. The Republicans hope get above fifty 98 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and the runoff question is moved, right, but well you're 99 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: also the governor's editor. As I mentioned, we're talking about 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: the Senate here, this being a mid term cycle with 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: with no presidential election, Jessica, how important will governors be 102 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: as voters work their way down the ballots and states 103 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: like Georgia, governor should be more important. I mean, they're 104 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: very important, and I hope that voters have realized in 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: the past, you know, two years, how to three years, 106 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: how important they have been because we saw them making 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: critical decisions during COVID. Really those decisions affected you more 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: closely than national decisions did, based on where you were, 109 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: based on how many people were getting vaccines, if areas 110 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: were shut down, if schools were shut down, a lot 111 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: of different things in there. And then the governor's races 112 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: also took on an extra mportance. I think this summer 113 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: when the Supreme Court jobs decision overturned Robe Wade and 114 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: sent the question back to the state. So in many answers, 115 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: if there were they trigger law on the books for 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: such as such as there is in Michigan. The Democratic 117 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: governor there, Gretchen Whitmer, due to block that um. In Wisconsin, 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: uh to the Democratic Governor Tony Tony Evers, who is 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: very in danger, even more so than wimmer Um, said 120 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: that he, you know, it would be an eight eight 121 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds law that would go back into effects and 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: the would even criminal is doctors for doing the procedure. 123 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: He said that he would essentially pardon, uh, you know, 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: those people that do so. You have a lot of 125 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: different scenarios happening here and in the abortion question. Jessica 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Taylor with us from the Cook Political Report. Lastly, Jessica, 127 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: what what's the house projection here? We've we've heard from 128 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: uh quite a quite a spread here. Does does Cook 129 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: have a number? Is it fifteen? Is it twenty? For 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: Republican seats in the House. So our final call from 131 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: uh my colleague David Wasserman, who is our House editor, 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: is at this point. But if it's a wave night, 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: that could go up to thirty or so. Got it. Jessica, 134 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I wish you luck in 135 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: your coverage tomorrow and come back and see us again 136 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: soon here on Bloomberg Sound On. She's the Senate and 137 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Governor's editor for the Cook Political Report. You offully busy tomorrow. 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington as we bring in our 139 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: panel on this night before. Genie Schanzano is here and 140 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: so is Rick Davis with me in studio here at 141 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg in Washington, d C. Fifteen to twenty. I wonder 142 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: how that sounds to both of Eugenie, what's your thought? 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because some are already suggesting that that'd 144 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: be a pretty darn good night for Democrats when you 145 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: look at say, Donald Trump losing forty right in the 146 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: last minute. I am one of those people. I am 147 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: one of those people. I think if Democrats can keep 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: the losses in the low twenties, that is a good 149 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: night historically for the president's party. Um, you know, obviously 150 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: much better to win. I know Rick Davis is going 151 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: to counter if you lose, you can't be celebrating it. 152 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: But you know, historically, as you mentioned forty sixty, that's 153 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: what we've been looking at. In the modern era, with 154 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: the president's approval rating the way it is, with inflation 155 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the way it is, and all the other factors working 156 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,359 Speaker 1: against Democrats, a loss of you know, the low twenties 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: is okay night for the Democrats, and it robs Kevin 158 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy of a huge majority that he needs to try 159 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: to push forward some of the policies they want. So 160 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: for Democrats that would be good. Do you see the 161 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Senate going to I think it turns and I mean, 162 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're looking probably at I'm estimating 163 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: a fifty two but which you know, hopefully I am 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: wrong on that um but that that's what we're probably 165 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: looking at at this point. And you know, that's probably 166 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: in keeping with history, if it's any guide here, that's 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: probably what we're going to see. We're throwing numbers around here, Rick, 168 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: But basically, what Genie is telling us his Republicans own 169 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill after tomorrow. Genie is making me very happy. 170 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: He's like, she's she's got all my talking points. She's 171 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: obviously been listening all your long. We don't even Republican 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: dominance of Washington. Yeah. Look, I mean, twenty new Republican 173 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: House members, and like, he can't get done what he 174 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: wants to get done. Plus he had five a margin 175 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: of five, and they got a lot done primarily because 176 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: they had in the presidency. So Joe Biden is gonna 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: be vetoing a lot of legislation. Yeah, I think I 178 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: think that that's probably the case. I think that there'll 179 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: be a lot of investigations. I think there'll be a 180 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of oversight. I think they'll they'll they'll be um 181 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: some pressure on, you know, financial issues like the budget 182 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: and the debt ceiling and things like that that otherwise 183 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: by didn't have too much of last time around. And 184 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think that that you've got that's a 185 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: plenty in your side. You know, a margin of twenty 186 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: is the number to do whatever you want to do 187 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: to accomplish. I don't want to put numbers in your mouth. 188 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: I think it could be bigger than that. I mean, 189 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: I think you could come out of the early part 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: of the night with just coming through the Northeast potentially 191 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: with five or six pickups, or even up the mid 192 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Atlantic before Florida, before you know, Pennsylvania, before Michigan. Um, 193 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: so I think you have the potential. Really, as Jessica 194 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: said to Ye, I wouldn't call it a wave, but 195 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, to thirty new Republican House members is ten 196 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: or fifteen less than historical average. And I'm not sure 197 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: we're bucking history here. I mean, it feels like history. 198 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: It feels like every other mid term for the party 199 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: out of power gets she lacked, has Barack Obama like 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: to put it, And I think these Democrats are gonna 201 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: go close to the sixty was that was a record, right, Yeah, 202 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see that tomorrow. You see the Senate 203 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: flipping like Jeanie does too. Yeah. Well, look, I mean 204 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like what Jessica said. I mean, like 205 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: every poll in the last two weeks has been favorable 206 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: to Republicans. The economy, uh, and Biden's administration. When you 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: look at independent voters, it's less than thirty percent approval, 208 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: less than thirty percent. So if you expect independence to 209 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: break your way on the number one issue and your 210 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: party in power the president has a twenty eight percent 211 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: approval rating, you're probably pushing a big rock up a hill. 212 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think Republicans are going to 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: get the breaks that you get when you have momentum 214 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: coming into election day. The Senate is interesting to me 215 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: because they're so close to call, like eight Senate races 216 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: that are toss ups right now. That's a really pretty 217 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: high number. John Fetterman, of course, out over the weekend 218 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: with President Biden, with President Obama, My God, every president, 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: it seemed was walking around here three or more at 220 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: least with Donald Trump as well. Of course, this is 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor who suffered a stroke in May, and 222 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: his health main is still a major issue on the 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: trip by January. I'm gonna keep feeling better and better, 224 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: but but Dr Oz will still be a fraud. Well, 225 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Oz actually was out there with Donald Trump in 226 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania that same nime. We'll bring change to Washington so 227 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: they treat us the way we deserve y'all in we 228 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: all win. God bless you. I love to get both 229 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: of your reads on this. We've been talking about this 230 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: race for the better part of a year, certainly since 231 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: the primary. Uh, Genie, it's uh what it's within a 232 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: point here. This is arguably the state that's going to 233 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: decide the balance of power. Are you still looking at 234 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: it that way? Yeah? I think we are, you know, 235 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: And that's why everybody to your point, descended on Pennsylvania 236 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: this weekend, and it has been a fight, particularly for 237 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: the suburbs. And you know, here's the reality. As much 238 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: as I would like to make Rick Davis happy today 239 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: and think that I am right about this, the reality 240 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: is these polls are so close that if there is 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: a huge turn out, particularly among African Americans, particularly among 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: young people, then it could work in the democrats favor 243 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: and some of these tight races and there could be 244 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: a very different night. We simply don't know. And that's 245 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: why you had Barack Obama and Joe Biden out there 246 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: trying to weave together a coalition based on the issue 247 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: of democracy, based on the issue of abortion, based on 248 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: the issue of character. And I think if the Senate 249 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: holds democratic, it will be a fifty fifty And if 250 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: that happens, the number one reason will be character of 251 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: these candidates that Donald Trump largely pushed forward. And number 252 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: two will be Donald Trump himself saying for the last 253 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: few days and certainly we're hearing it right to this minute, 254 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: that he's going to announce for presidency. Those are the 255 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: kinds of things supposed. Yeah, I'm very that's the best 256 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: thing that could happen to the Democrats. Well, you know, 257 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: I guess that. I mean, jeez, you know, leave it 258 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump to take the attention away from the 259 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: candidates who actually running. But tonight does it matter? If 260 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: that happens tonight, we can get into this more later, 261 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: But I mean the dice essentially cast here, isn't it? Yeah, 262 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: the dies cast. I've never seen anything happen the night 263 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: before an election that actually had a material believe me. 264 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: And I've tried so many different things now, I've never 265 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: tried a Donald Trump announces for president the night of 266 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: an election. Uh. That would definitely make history. But I 267 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: can't imagine he would get in the way of what 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: will otherwise be a declaration of victory by him. Virtually 269 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: all the nominees that he endorsed are running in this 270 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: general election, and a lot of them are going to 271 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: get elected. So why get in the way of declaring 272 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: victory tonight or tomorrow night for him by stepping on 273 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: his own story. There was concern inside the campaign about 274 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: having him not share a stage so much with Donald 275 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Trump but with Doug Mastriano over the weekend. It's, of course, 276 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the Republican nominee for governor. It looks like he will 277 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: likely lose based on the numbers we're seeing now, but 278 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: he of course has been, you know, a steadfast supporter 279 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of Trump, an election denier, and he was on stage two. 280 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Failure is not an option. We have to win the 281 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: future for our children and our freedom is at stake. 282 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: But I know in three days there's gonna be a 283 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: new day in p a is I mean, is that 284 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: baggage for doctor Oz or our voters in Pennsylvania? Rick, 285 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Are Republicans in Pennsylvania able to draw the line between 286 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: the two? Yeah, they will draw the line between the two. 287 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean indication that you know, uh Oz has coat tails, right, 288 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: which would drag in Mastriano and and in Mastriano is 289 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: not obviously driving any vote, right, I mean, he's not 290 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: got enough money and enough attention, uh to have any 291 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: power around the vote, So he'll he'll be sort of 292 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: left behind by voters. And that's the ballot splitting that 293 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: we could see in multiple states, Genie, we can you know, 294 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: we expect maybe to see that. For instance, in Georgia 295 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: you may have yeah, yeah, or people don't vote down ballot, 296 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: that's a possibility as well. But I think the you know, 297 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Ozz appearing on stage with Mastriano, that is problematic for 298 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: Oz because Oz is the last few days been trying 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: to sell himself as a moderate to attract these very 300 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: important suburban, moderate independent voters, and appearing on stage with 301 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Mastriano and also Donald Trump. He's walking a very fine 302 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: line and that's a difficult thing for him to swallow. 303 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: He did it, We're gonna have to see if it 304 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: paid off. You know, we famously remember young Ken did 305 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: not do that, He did not hug close to Trump, 306 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: and he won. So if Oz doesn't win, we're going 307 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: to be looking at this weekend to see did this 308 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: rally and his appearance with these two uh you know, 309 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: these two Republicans impact turn out amongst independence and support 310 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: for him. We're going to connect in a moment with 311 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: Senator Ben Cardon, who's going to be taking part in 312 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: a pretty big rally tonight involving President Biden, you know, 313 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: closing arguments. As I mentioned in Bowie Maryland. Before we 314 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: do though, just to get for both of you in 315 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: terms of the House goes, you're gonna be watching early 316 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: tomorrow a couple of important races in Virginia. Well, Abigail 317 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: span Burger and uh Ellen, Laura tell us what's going 318 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: to happen the rest of the night. Rick, Yeah, I 319 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: think they are a strong indication, right, these are flipper districts. 320 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: Both of them are slightly Biden districts by three percent 321 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and six percent and um and and and if you 322 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: are having anything close to a red wave, they go 323 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: down um early in the evening. And I would say 324 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: watch out for Virginia ten too, because if it is 325 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: a red wave, Wexler goes down in the same pile 326 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: that the other Democrats will and and that will be 327 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: the first indication at a plus six plus eight democratic 328 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: district is going Republican. And and then Katie bar the door. 329 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: You're at thirty or forty. So if we see those 330 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: two lose, those Democratic incumbents lose the early hours tomorrow, Genie, 331 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: it's trouble for Democrats. It could look like a wave. 332 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: On the other one, I would watch. An addition to 333 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Virginia ten would be Indiana one. If we see that flip, 334 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: that is going to signify something of a tsunami on 335 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: the Republican side. Experts here on how to watch this 336 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: take place tomorrow, Rick and Genie or with us for 337 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: the hour. As we now bring in Senator Ben Carton, 338 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, democrat from Maryland is not up for reelection. 339 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Here on his way to see President Biden at an 340 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: event in Bowie. Senator, welcome back to Bloomberg it's good 341 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: to be with you, particularly at this time when the 342 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: nation is so focused on the mid term elections. Well, 343 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: you're on your way, in fact, to a rally with 344 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: President Biden later on tonight. God Love Bowie state, is 345 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: the President an asset, senator or a liability at this 346 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: stage of the campaign. Oh, it's an asset. His record 347 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: is very much appreciated by the people of Maryland. I 348 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: think you're gonna find that the results on tomorrow would 349 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: be very positive in regards to the Democrats and response 350 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: to what President by has done. It's interesting he started 351 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: this campaign cycle in Montgomery County, Maryland, is ending it 352 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: in Prince George's County, Maryland. So we're very proud of 353 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: President Biden and the fact that he has been in 354 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 1: Maryland so frequently. I see West Moore is up by 355 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: something like thirty points in the race for governor. I 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: think five thirty eight gives him uh out of a hundred, 357 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: which is got to be a pretty good feeling going 358 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: into a race. Is it nice to not be running, though, 359 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: to to be able to to to rally and and 360 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: act as as surrogate and not have to worry about 361 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: your own campaign, Well, quite frankly it is. I love campaigning, 362 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: but particularly now I can campaign and not worry for 363 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: my own election, but can really focus on where I 364 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: can help other candidates. So I've been spending my time 365 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: not only in Maryland, but in other parts of the 366 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: country in order to help Democrats. Poll show a real 367 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: uphill climb for Democrats on Capitol Hill as opposed to 368 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: in the state of Maryland, House and Senate were told 369 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: could turn Republican. Do you believe these numbers? Well, we 370 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: know the traditional thoughts about mid term elections for the 371 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: the party that where the president is in power. So 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: we recognize the historic trends here. Well, we think we 373 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: have a good story to tell. We think has been 374 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: receptive to the voters around the country. So we have 375 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: great candidates running for the United States Senate, for Congress, 376 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: so and governor. We're we're optimistic that we're gonna beat 377 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: some of the projections. Well, you know, Republicans say they're 378 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: better equipped to manage the economy with inflation being the 379 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: big issue in the campaign. You don't need me to 380 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: tell you that. Uh. This, of course, though, is a 381 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: global problem where it's hold. The feed is busy hiking 382 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: interest rates. How if Democrats allowed Republicans to own that issue. 383 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: You just passed the Inflation Reduction Act. Centator, Well, I 384 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: think President Biden has a really strong record. But the 385 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: truth is that American families are hurting through no fault 386 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: of President Biden or the actions in Congress. It is 387 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: a global situation, as you pointed out, particularly before and 388 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: you crane and energy crisis. But the facts are that 389 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: people are upset. They're upset about their energy costs, they're 390 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: upset about their food costs, they're upset about being able 391 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: to afford the essentials of life. And we fully understand 392 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: that and at times that could very well have a 393 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: negative impact on the party in power. So we recognize 394 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: the risk factors here. Life isn't always fair, elections aren't 395 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: always fair, but the voters get the last say. Well, 396 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, the Democrats have accused Republicans of, 397 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, being the dog that caught the car when 398 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: it comes to Roe. V Wade, Are you going to 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: say the same thing about inflation when Kevin McCarthy or 400 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: someone else is in charge. Well, no, I believe in 401 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: being very partisans on elections. Again, so many Democrats elected 402 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: as possible when when elections are over, you've got to govern, 403 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: whether you're in the majority or the minority. So I 404 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: am hopeful that once the election results are in, we're 405 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna find a new sense of purpose and we get 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: things done. Why is west More up more and thirty points, 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: but other Democrats around the country are locked in such 408 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: tight racist Senator, I think Westmore's message is one that 409 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: resonates with the people of Maryland. I think people in 410 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: this country. Uh. He says that we're all in this 411 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: together and want to leave no one behind. He wants 412 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: to invest in areas to improve education and opportunity for 413 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: all Marylanders. Uh. It's a very strong message. He's a 414 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: charismatic speaker. He gives hope, he's a visionary for our future, 415 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: and he's type of leader I think Mariland Marylanders want 416 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: to see. I'm gonna ask you lastly about two things 417 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: that are very close to your heart. One would be workers, 418 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: the other crabs temporary worker visas. Senator. Of course, huge 419 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: for the seafood industry. Which party can get more workers here, 420 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 1: more manpower to responsibly far Maryland crabs. Well, we are 421 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: very proud that President Biden has used all the discretion. 422 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: He has to increase states to be worker. Visa said 423 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: that we have the seafood industry has what it needs. 424 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: So I think Democrats have delivered in regards to seasonal workers. 425 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Congress needs to respond. And here's where we need to 426 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: have Democrats and Republicans working together. But to modernize our 427 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: immigration laws and provide an adequate number of worker pieces. 428 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: I'll take a dozen large right now. Senator, I'm figuring 429 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: you feel the same way. If you know what the 430 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: weather was today, I think people who wanted to be 431 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: outside eating steve crabs. I agree with you. I'm yeah, 432 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I'm in d C. I'm ready for it, but I 433 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: need I need some vinegar and spices on the side. 434 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: How do you take it? Well, I agree with you. 435 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm a somewhat of a purist, but so but it's 436 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: a it's it's a great tradition in our state. Only 437 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: Maryland knows how to make a crab gig or how 438 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: that air crab. So we're very proud of our role 439 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: in regard to the Maryland crabs. There's no such thing 440 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: as a Democratic crab or a Republican one. Senator, Well, 441 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: you know they're blue crabs. I stand correct it, Senator 442 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Ben Cardon, Democrat from Maryland, are regards to the President 443 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: and booie State. While we're at it, coming up Ryan 444 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: take Back with on ballot splitting tomorrow. I'm Joe Matthew 445 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: and Washington. This is Bloomberg. It's a pretty impressive number 446 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: for a mid term election cycle. More than forty million 447 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: people have already voted early votes that of course have 448 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: been controversial in themselves, at least in terms of, you know, 449 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: concept following the campaign with a lot of election deniers, 450 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: including Donald Trump, suggesting that they are somehow compromised. Carry 451 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Lake would tell you that Ryan take Beckwarth joins us 452 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: now Bloomberg News National Politics Report. Has been an awfully 453 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: busy guy and sure will be for the next couple 454 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: of days here. Ryan, You've been very helpful helping us 455 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: understand some of the trends across the country in this cycle. 456 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: What does that forty million number tell you? I mean, 457 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that shows that early voting is here to stay. 458 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: We're really only have three or four states left in 459 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: which there's no option to either early vote in person 460 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: or by mail, and one of those is Connecticut, where 461 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: they're going to be voting on that in November. So 462 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: I think, well, we pretty much should get used to 463 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: this being the pattern. What we have seen, like in 464 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: recent days is some in Arizona, some Republicans now suggesting that, hey, 465 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe you should get out an early vote, um after 466 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: they have spent a lot of time telling people that 467 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: they should vote only an election day, which I think 468 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: as an indicator they're a little nervous about this. Well, 469 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: we've also seen it in some states, uh, fairly split 470 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: between Democrats and Republicans. Right, this is not this is 471 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: not just a progressive trend. No, and and actually it's 472 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: long been older voters who really appreciate the option to 473 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: vote by mail and to early vote. Uh. And you 474 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: can see if you look at the information from the 475 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: US Elections Project that older voters are in fact the 476 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: ones who have taken the most advantage of the early 477 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: voting UM. But I do think that we're seeing more 478 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: of a part of and split now with these early 479 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: votes are really democratic and they banked a lot of these. 480 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: The question is whether there's a real surge of people 481 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: showing up an election day Republicans that offsets that. Well, 482 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: that said, of course, it is also gonna take us 483 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: a little bit longer to find out who the heck 484 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: won some of these races. UH, A state like Pennsylvania, 485 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: for instances, not begin counting the early votes until the 486 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: polls closed, right that's gonna start at eight o'clock, which 487 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: could mean days before we know right now, it's not 488 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: the counting even, it's the processing. So when you vote 489 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: by mail, you have to put it in in a 490 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: special envelope and sign it, and they have to they 491 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: have to take it out of that envelope, they have 492 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: to double check that your signature matches and all of that. 493 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: That takes time to do that. The counting is pretty 494 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: fast once you're done with that, but they don't allow 495 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: them to begin processing them like they do in some 496 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: other states, like Florida. So that's why in some states 497 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: so they have vote by mail, they immediately have results 498 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: when the polls closed because they can just click tabulate 499 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: on those machines. But in Pennsylvania, it's going to take 500 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: them awhile to unpack those and flay them Latin, run 501 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: them through the machine confirmed the signature. So we may 502 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: not know Pennsylvania um, other than the governor's race. We 503 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: may not know until Saturday, So how does Ryan T. 504 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Beck With tackle this? Then tomorrow? What are you watching 505 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: in the early hours, Ryan, I think tomorrow should be 506 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: pretty quiet. It's an election day. Those are usually pretty 507 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: boring during the day, But once the polls closed and 508 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: we start to get a sense of where the votes 509 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: are headed, I am really on high alert for similar 510 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: efforts to where someone decides that this isn't right, our 511 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: side should be winning or whatever. Particularly looking at the 512 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: city of Detroit, there's election denier's running for multiple statewide 513 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: positions in Michigan who have already kind of indicated that 514 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: they may contest it if they lose. Uh So I'll 515 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: be watching that closely tomorrow. Fascinating. Stay with us, Ryan, 516 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: We look forward to talking with you again, whether it's 517 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: tomorrow the day after. Ryan T. Beck With find his 518 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: work on the terminal. He has been just doing incredible 519 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: work here tracking the so called deniers and exactly what 520 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: will happen to them tomorrow night. We'll find out on Wednesday, 521 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: hopefully in a conversation with Ryan. I'd love to follow 522 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: up there. As we reassembled our panel. Rick and Jeanie 523 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: are with us considering the impact of early voting or 524 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: at least the phenomenon of early voting. Uh. Rick, Donald 525 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: Trump and carry Laker telling people there's something wrong here. 526 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: But a lot of Republicans are are enjoying this as 527 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: an option. And as Ryan said, it's here to stay. 528 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Why not embrace it? Yeah, why not embrace it? I'm 529 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: totally with you. Uh, A lot of Republican strategists and 530 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: operatives I know all around the country just scratch your head. 531 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: If I can get a vote, you know, early, I 532 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: can count that vote. It's in my pocket. I can 533 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: focus on other voters, take them off the list, don't 534 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: have to call them ten times on election day. Uh. 535 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: It's a good thing. And these are the laws, right, 536 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: and people regardless of whether they were on the books 537 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: before COVID or after. Uh, it's a real convenience item 538 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: for voters. And we've always tried to find ways of 539 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: spurring higher voter turnout. And there's a lot of evidence 540 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: in the last three election cycles that we are having 541 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: record voter turnout, not in small part because we've made 542 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: it easier for people to vote. That's a good thing. Right. 543 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: This was a democratic uh sort of idea, at least 544 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: it was framed in GIE but As Ryan points out, 545 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of older retirees who might vote Republican really 546 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: like this option as well. Is this the future of voting? 547 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think early voting mail in 548 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: balloting any way to make it easier for people to 549 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: exercise this right. I have to tell you, I was 550 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: telling Rick earlier, this is the first year I've ever 551 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: early voted by mail. I've always gone to the polls, 552 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: and I really relish the idea. Couldn't do it this year, 553 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: so I early voted. It's convenient, and it does give 554 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: people an option that they don't have for people who 555 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: are working, people who are elderly, people who can't get 556 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: to the polls on that day. So I do think 557 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: we're going to see more and more of this. And 558 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: to Rick's point, from a campaign perspective, it allows the 559 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: candidates and the campaigns to focus on voters they may 560 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: not wise be able to focus on, and that is 561 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: a boon for any campaign. Donald Trump telling people not 562 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: to vote may have cost them the Georgia Senate both 563 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: of those seats. In he shouldn't be repeating that we 564 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: have seen that movie because it's popular for both parties. 565 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Though Ricky can't I mean, how do you tell who's 566 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: this who who these forty million votes are favoring? Well 567 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona is pretty easy, right, because you track votes 568 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: by counties and by precincts, and you actually get updates 569 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: from the Registrar's office on a regular basis, so as 570 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: they can hold the ballot then, but on who returned one, 571 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: who returned one? Or where they live? Right, what's their 572 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: zip code? Because like everything, we live in the places 573 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: we have common political interests, right, and so you know, 574 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you can pretty much bracket any community in Arizona and 575 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: most other states that aren't you know, vote by registration 576 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: and know uh where the Republicans live, where the Democrats live, 577 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: and what the tendencies are. Would say that things are 578 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: pretty even the rightness day like Arizona. Yeah, I mean, 579 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: at least in terms of the early vote. The reality 580 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: is early votes should be substantial in the Democratic favor. 581 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: That's the typical Arizona voting pattern. Uh. We've seen in 582 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: the last two cycles though, that Republicans started taking advantage 583 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: of early voting, uh maybe even starting around COVID, and 584 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: they've adopted it. So talking them out of it is 585 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: just adding a hurdle to election day. Uh. And the 586 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: other thing I would say is it does make it 587 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: a little easier to count, right, I mean, like if 588 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: you're able to get to it first. Yeah. Absolutely. We 589 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: had to do this because while it is the final countdown, Genior, 590 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: you're ready from coming across the table here like you 591 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. I have one more opportunity to talk to 592 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: these two about some important trends. You're including some of 593 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: what we heard from Donald Trump and might here tonight. 594 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Son on with Joe 595 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. It was almost the biggest applause 596 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: line of the night for Donald Trump. That would be 597 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: when he decided to swear it doesn't take a lot. 598 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: And I realized today as I'm preparing for the show 599 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: and I'm bleeping the former president of the United States 600 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: once again, I've never had to bleep a crowd before. 601 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: So the speech he made was total. You know what, 602 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: I won't use it because my wife always is she 603 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: always is darling, don't use the word book, So I'm 604 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: not going to use it. Intelligence first, one of his 605 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: favorite words there. But this isn't a play. Please don't 606 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: use that word see please. It almost has a rhythm 607 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: to it as we reassemble the panel, Rick and Genie 608 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: or with us of course Bloomberg Politics contributors. Really, I 609 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: never had to bleep a crowd before. But that wasn't 610 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: the real applause line of the night. It was the 611 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: stay tuned, stay tuned to tomorrow night in the great 612 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Stay tuned, we have a big we 613 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: have a big rally there for j D We have 614 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: a big, big, big rally. Stay tuned tomorrow night in Ohio. 615 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: After he added another very it was very, very very 616 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: very probably going to announce for the White House? Does 617 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: he do that tonight, Jeanie, I heave a voting. Let 618 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: us hope he does. I would love to see it. 619 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to see if it really up ends the campaign. 620 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he will because it makes little sense. 621 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: But then again, can't predict what Donald Trump is going 622 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: to do. We talked about this last week, and they 623 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: were seeing the four of November at that point, and 624 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: I think I asked you at the time, Rick, if 625 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: it was actually beneficial to clear the field as opposed 626 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: to deal with the financial implications of announcing now do 627 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: you feel any differently tonight? Only that maybe his lawyers 628 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: met with him and said, hey, the indictment is pending 629 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: any time now, and sooner you're a candidate, the more 630 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: likely as you'll slip the legal not um. But I 631 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: would really be curious to see um j D kiss 632 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: my gluteus maximus Trump on the stage when he announces 633 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: for president tonight. That would really be entertaining. Yeah, that's 634 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: that's one way to interrupt the news flow here. I 635 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: mean that would be the front page headline to mar 636 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: Ginie instead of j D. Vance poised to win. Yeah, 637 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: poor j D. He's going there to get some support, 638 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: get some more votes tomorrow, and he's you know, it'll 639 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: be stunning at Donald Trump puts his own interest ahead 640 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: of somebody else. A lot of people made a big 641 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: deal about the he's got a nickname. Now, by the way, 642 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: how did rond to sanctimonious play with you guys? I 643 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty good. Anytime you can insert yourself 644 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: in a commercial with God, you're probably over reaching a 645 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: little bit. But but you know, look, so I don't 646 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: know how Donald Trump tests out the nicknames. He might 647 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: have one for each of you. I don't know, but 648 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: this one really actually they loved it. He was reading 649 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: poll numbers on Friday night. Rondo Sanctimonia said, Mike Pence 650 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: at seven. Oh, Mike's doing better than I thought. Liz Cheney, 651 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: there's no way she's at four. There's no way, Rhonda sanctimonious. 652 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: Uh did he come up with that? In the day 653 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: after this? This you know, given by God ad came 654 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: out on the eighth day. Are there other ones out there? 655 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: It makes you wonder? But this is the ad if 656 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: you didn't see this that apparently inspired the nickname. This 657 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: came out on Friday, a Rhonda Santis campaign ad on 658 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: the eighth day. And on the eighth day, God looked 659 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: down on his planned paradise and said, I need a 660 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: protect her. So God made a fighter. Black and white footage, 661 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: God said, I need somebody willing to get up before 662 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: dawn kiss his family. Good buy travel thousands of miles 663 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: for no other reason than to serve the people, to 664 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: save their job, their livelihoods, their liberty, their happiness. Of 665 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: course he doesn't travel thousands of miles. He was a 666 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: little closer to the office, right, Rick, Did you ever 667 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: think about invoking God and I mean, he's so the 668 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: anointed one. He's according to Donald Trump, to sanctimonious. Yeah, no, 669 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: this is a stretch. I think that he's carving new 670 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: ground on sort of what people are willing to buy 671 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: in the package of he's my governor. I like him 672 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot. But did God really make santis on the 673 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: eighth day? Was that God? Or? By the way, how 674 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: come we're getting hurricanes if we've got God on his 675 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: right side? True enough? That didn't sound as much like 676 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: God to me. Remember this is Paul Harvey. He kind 677 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: of had the voice of God, Genie, I guess. But 678 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: are they trying to by the way, Paul Harvey, you know, 679 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: god fearing evangelical. He was incredibly popular among evangelical Christians 680 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: and conservatives. Not an accident. They made a sound like him, right, No, 681 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: it's not. And and if if we didn't know this 682 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: was real, Joe, I would think you would stayed up 683 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,479 Speaker 1: all night or this was some kind of snl skit. 684 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, I have to burst one bubble, which is 685 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did not come up with a de 686 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: sanctimonious monitor. Because I like to do research for you, Joe. 687 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: It was actually Roger Stone who posted it on telegram. Yeah, 688 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: and he came up with and he warned Ron to 689 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: Sanctimonious not to try to run against Trump and he 690 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: would regret it. And Trump has invoked it. It's a 691 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: little shocking. He took away from the candidates the other 692 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: night to talk about himself, but he did. But this 693 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: run the Sanctimonious ad invoking God ten times that God 694 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: made him governor. It's it's too much to believe until 695 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: you watch it. And it's the most viral video that's 696 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: we've seen this this cycle. So they did something right. Yeah, 697 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe it worked, then, Rick, this is just good politics. Well, 698 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: just because it's viral doesn't mean it's having a positive 699 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're talking about it almost as 700 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: if it is a joke. Genie's right. I mean when 701 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: I first saw it, I thought, oh, somebody made this up. 702 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: But the fact that it was quote sent out by 703 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: his wife brings it pretty close to home. Right. It 704 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: wasn't like he can say, hey, I didn't know what 705 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: she was doing. I mean I would have never agreed 706 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: to that. We should note, yes, his wife tweeted that, 707 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: uh tweeting today Elon Musk, I didn't think this is 708 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a daily thing, guys, but I guess it's 709 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna be for a minute. Uh. This is the new 710 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: owner of Twitter, of course, the richest man in the world, 711 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: Testless SpaceX and so on quote. Shared power curbs the 712 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: worst excesses of both parties. Therefore, I recommend voting for 713 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: a Republican Congress given the presidency as democratic unquote to 714 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: his more than one ten million followers, is Elon Musk 715 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: aiming to be the most important endorsement in politics? Is 716 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: that what this new platform has for him? Yeah? I 717 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: think he is. He's pushed Kathy Griffin off the office Twitter, 718 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: and you know, and and you know, just as one example, 719 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: what does it do when you have divided government? You 720 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: know it a lot of people believe what he is saying. 721 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: But the reality is it makes it harder for voters 722 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: to know who to hold accountable. When you have divided government. 723 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: It makes democracy harder because as people go to vote 724 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: in four who do they hold accountable for what has 725 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: or hasn't happened. And so it works to the politicians, 726 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: it works to the people in government, It works to 727 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: the people who are in office. It doesn't work so 728 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: well for voters. And that's where one of the fallacies 729 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: of this argument that divided government is a good thing. Well, 730 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: you know Wall Street always said gridlock is good Rick 731 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: or the market's going to love that idea. Well, we're 732 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: gonna see changing things. Just stop doing things, watch do 733 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: nothing for a while and let the rest of the country, 734 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, take care of itself. And look, that's always 735 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: been um one theory of government, right, the less they do, 736 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: the better off the country. Is the power of the 737 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: market systems and what we can accompl Shawn, our own. Uh, 738 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: we're not a nanny society, right, we don't expect to 739 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 1: be taken care of. And sometimes the government overreaches into 740 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. So sure, absolutely it could be 741 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: uh one of those sort of impacts. But Genie could 742 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: be right too. I mean, you know, people want to 743 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: get things done. We've gotten used to, especially during this 744 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: COVID period, government intervening and virtually every aspect of our lives. 745 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: What happens when I go cold Turkey for the next 746 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: two years. If Republicans win in the Senate, in the House, 747 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: there may be a few pieces of legislation that the 748 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: president would be willing to sign, but probably not many, 749 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: and so the question is, you know, how's the country 750 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: going to react to that? And at that point, if 751 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: we're trying to climb out of a recession with a 752 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: rising unemployment rate, Genie, you're not going to get any 753 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: stimulus money to fix it, are you. You're not. I mean, 754 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: government will go into a certain extent grind to a 755 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: halt unless a miracle occurs and Republicans and the President 756 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: can agree to pass legislation. And of course then you 757 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: defer power to the states and you get vastly different 758 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: policies out of these fifty very different states. If you 759 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: get anything at all, and you get a patchwork of government, 760 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: you get a patchwork of policies. If people want change, 761 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: governmental division of power is not the way to get it. 762 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: If they want things to remain the same, He's absolutely right, 763 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: go divide your vote. If people were already concerned about 764 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: Elon Musk owning and running this thing Twitter, he could 765 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: have tweeted that as just a member of the universe, 766 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: But as the owner of Twitter, how much of an 767 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: impact might that have? And is that any different than 768 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: the head of any media company doing this, or the 769 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: head of a fortune company endorsing a candidate or a party. Look, 770 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: as chief Twitter, he has sort of a higher you know, 771 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: profiled and he even had with his original hundred million 772 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: Twitter followers, right, and so certainly for the moment, there's 773 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: no question that eyes are on Elon Musk and and 774 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: he has influenced now whether or not he's really using it. 775 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: You tweeting the night before the election, Um, it really 776 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: ways raises questions, right, Who's who's he really trying to 777 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: motivate here? Right? Is anybody going to change their vote 778 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,959 Speaker 1: based on what they read by him today? Um? And uh? 779 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: And I'd say that he was being more political than 780 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: persuasive and so having fun though, right, we'll see. I 781 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: think he's trying to buy influence, right, I mean, like, 782 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: if you're the head of Twitter and you see what's 783 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: going on on Capitol Hill, you're about to go under 784 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: the gun. Right, whether Republicans or Democrats win in the 785 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: House and Senate, big tech is going to be on 786 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: the hot seat. And that includes Elon Musk and the twitters. 787 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: Wow to me as well, career a little bit of favor. 788 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: Now you have the chance, Jennie, you see motivate Democrats 789 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: to get out tomorrow because they're so upset about everything 790 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: Elon Must does right now, Well that could be too 791 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: And you know there's always a question whether you know 792 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: these endorsements like go per win for your Elon Musk 793 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: speaking out matter And I think we're going to have 794 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: to see that. Tomorrow night, the next time we talked, 795 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: the polls will be just about to close, and I'll 796 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: be walking down the hall into the studio with Rick 797 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: and Genie for special coverage. I hope you come along. 798 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: I'll beat you back here tomorrow. The fastest hour in politics. 799 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: This is bloom