WEBVTT - It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s the PCP Superspy 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:05.000 Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio Elizabeth Dotton. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.959 You know what's ridiculous? Oh yeah, totally. Um. Did you 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.240 know that when you breathe a cow and a bison, 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:17.040 it's called a beefalo. I'd heard that. I didn't think 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:23.439 that that was true. Yeah, that's true. Beef laggers and 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.680 tig ins and beefalo. Oh my, al right, well you 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:33.600 know it's also ridiculous. What Oh yes, PCP is absolutely ridiculous, ridiculous. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.680 It is possibly the most ridiculous drug there is. But 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:41.600 it has the best drug nickname ever angel dust. It 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.159 means that not just the best drug ever, Like I 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.519 want to do angel dust. When I was a kid, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.360 I was like, I want to do angel dusk. Mommy. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.639 It sounds like something that you'd sprinkle on a Hallmark 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:57.600 Precious Moments figuring and it comes with angel dust with 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:03.440 Angel Christmas display exactly, and then you just do a 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:08.080 line of it, rail it up. Do you remember hearing 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.360 about PCP when we were children. Yeah, it was like 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.840 often mentioned drug. I mean, like nothing like it is now, 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.680 like it actually was one of the top five drugs kids. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.080 Did totally remember the stories or anything like that. Oh, yeah, 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.920 there are always stories about people having like superhuman strength, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.720 like running through brick walls or something, and like before crack, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.440 it was the drug of like the like urban superhero. Yeah. Well, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.640 my brother used to have this thing. Anytime he'd see 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.800 a trampoline, he'd jump on it and like fall flat 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.199 back and then pop back up. And he called himself 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.280 PCP man. And but the thing is is what I 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.320 found with DARE and all those sort of things. Um, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.920 some of the ways that they educated you made things 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.360 sound kind of appealing. Oh yeah, it was terrible as 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.440 a reverse advertising. I want to do that. Yeah. And 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.240 so they would talk about PCP and like someone like me, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.560 uh would get terrified, Like if I did that, then 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.120 I would I would think I could jump off a building, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.000 and but then other people would be like I could 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.680 jump off a built, you know, like you see these 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.560 it's very it's very alluring. Yeah, if I ever wanted 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.800 to raise a car in the freeway traffic, I could 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.680 do it on PCP. Totally. We had a we had 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.920 a teacher like in fourth grade during DARE who every 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.720 week would tell us about a different kind of drug 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.359 and they were always just oh it's so bad. But 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.200 then when we got to stimulants like cocaine that week 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.000 with the handouts, he only told us the good things 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.799 in his mind, like you can study for super long 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.960 and it makes you feel just like up, and you 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.000 can do all this stuff. You can get all this 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.000 work done, and do you mention Freud is like really 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.680 important to the advancement and we're just like this sounds 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.960 this kind of sounds kind of good. And so I 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.399 remember I went home and I was like, Mom, you know, like, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.560 do you do coke? She's just like wait, I'm sorry 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.600 what and that she like rubs it and I'm just 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.240 kidding um, And so I explained. I was like, well, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.560 apparently like you can like study for hours and get 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.040 all this stuff done and she's like mmmm, well no, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.600 not really and she's trying to like gently explain to 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.120 her whatever. I was eight year old nine year old daughter. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.639 And then the teacher we had a substitute after that 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.800 for the rest of the school year. It was like 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.639 towards the end of the year, apparently some other kids 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.000 went home and rat it out the teacher and they 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.720 got more than one call to the school. Yeah, no, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.000 don't tell them that this is the best thing for 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.560 overachiever kids before, after all, there was a cocaine from 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.480 Dare exactly, or like when you're in Dare and they 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.280 make you like, this is what it looks like. This 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.720 is what marijuana looks like. There's always a kid in 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.920 class who's like the clown who smells it and goes daddy. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.800 Remember the briefcase that put the clear I was like, no, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.200 that's not what that looks like. I'd like calculate late 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.720 the street value if that suitcase I could, I could 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:26.479 turn that around. This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.599 absurd and outrageous capers, heights and cons. It's always murder 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:36.400 free and ridiculous. Al Right, we all know. Rick James 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.360 famously said cocaine is a hell of a drug. Now, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.000 PCP is a way crazy or hell of a drug, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.360 especially you know, in the hands of somebody who doesn't 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.760 know that they are going to be on PCP, Like 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:54.479 if they're dusted, they got angel dusted. But did you 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.039 ever learn anything about the science of it, like anything, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.480 Like did ever tell you like why PCP is what 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.279 it is. It's one of the rare drugs that you 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.400 don't really hear at least I didn't hear about this 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.200 Like you hear about cocaine, know how it works. I 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.720 hear about the amphetamines, how they work, how hot, how 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.680 it works. I never heard about how PCP works. We 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.560 were told that it comes from when two Hallmark Precious 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:20.040 Moments figurines love each other so much, so much, and 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.479 then what comes out is angels for all the children 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.600 Catholic schools. So I've had to look it up, and 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.719 PCP is derived from a compound called one fennel cyclohexel pypyridine. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.680 You say so, yes, one fennel cycle hexel pypyridine, and 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:42.159 that compound is derived from eral cycle hexel amine. Pypyridine 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.560 does sound like really good red hot chili Pepper's lyrics. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.320 I'm gonna tell a key is next time I get 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.000 a card from him, I'll just hey, I got some 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.800 lyrics for you, bro. So, ketamine is a real close 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:00.840 cousin of PCP. It's our aural cyclohexel and me derivative 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.280 just like PCP. Now, both drugs were originally used as 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:09.000 large animal tranquilizers for horses, pigs, and elephants, which I 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.480 didn't know. Now. This is also why the two drugs 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.240 behave so similarly in humans, they basically produced the soleucinogenic 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.880 you four quality at a certain amount. If you get 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.680 above that, you get into an aesthetic amount, and then 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.080 you can get into an aesthetic amount to actually removes 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:31.160 consciousness all of these options right exactly. So what happens 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.880 is that basically there's the that response, but then there's 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.800 another response in the body that is entirely separate. That 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.520 is basically where you get that superhero quality, and that's 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.599 the analgesic, which means you can't feel pain. That also 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.480 gives you this psychotic ideation. So you can't feel pain, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.000 and you're like, what if I can fly? Though? Exactly? 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.160 What if I can chase this truck? So, uh, you know, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.320 we have this moment, you know where PCP was really popular, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.440 and like, I don't think people understand like how popular. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.080 I mean, in nineteen seventy nine, quote, twelve point eight 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.360 percent of twelfth graders had used PCP, whereas in only 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.080 three point nine percent had used this same drug. Now 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:16.000 that's yeah, dare worked Apparently Apparently now that same numbers 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.720 lessen one percent. So it's very difficult to find people 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.880 who are still doing PCP, and partially is because pot 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.480 got so good, So people are like, I don't need 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.760 the hallucinogenic effects of a street drug if I can 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.160 get it from smoking pot. So it kind of I 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.120 don't need to fight. I don't need to fight a 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:36.040 freight train. I can just just mellow out. Also, there 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.400 was the whole like you know, yeah, the psychotic ideation 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.440 that was the real downside, whereas ketamine doesn't do that. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.560 You just fall into a k hole. So people have 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.840 they spiral into themselves. They may have a bad trip, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.720 but they don't go out and try to like, you know, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.600 lift the house up and throw it at somebody. So 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.240 the one last thing about PCP before we get into 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.040 the story that I want you to understand is PCP 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.560 once you ingest it, it acts really strangely in the 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.160 body because it can last for seven hours or for 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.760 seven days or seven years. You don't you don't know 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.760 how long it's gonna last because it gets stored in 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.640 the adipose tissue and like the fat of the body, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.400 it just sits in there and it gets released unevenly. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.800 So depending on your metabolic processes, you can suddenly have 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.240 a burst of it and then maybe it's two days 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.120 after you actually did it, and now instead of just 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.640 having acid flashbacks, you're having a full on PCP psychotic episode, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.600 like just in the middle of your So, so your 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:31.720 little tummy is a flavor saver. Now. The high of 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:36.800 PCP is also kind of crazy because it affects a 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.480 ton of aspects of the body all at once. So 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.559 it affects the neo cortex, the hippocampus, the basil ganglia, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.840 and your Lympics system, which is in charge of like 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.760 basically all your smooth muscle like you know, so breathing, digestion, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.360 like a bunch of things that are not voluntarily controlled 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.839 involuntary muscle systems, right, So it means you can that's 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.720 why people can like stop breathing. Uh and and basically 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.720 from heroin is because it it is convinced the limbic 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.839 system to stop breathing. So PCP does the opposite. It 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.040 causes you to have tachocardia, which is a rapid heartbeat. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.199 It causes you to have violent behavior. It causes your 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.520 eyes to circle or to go backwards and forwards or 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.800 up and down. Yeah, like a literal like rhythmic pattern. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.040 So like you can either spiral or you can go 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.120 a skipping like your like your eyes are skipping like 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.480 a TV between stations in the eighties. Yeah, and there's 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.240 also hypertension for a high blood pressure. You get like 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.360 um the elf of the anal jess. You can't feel 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.040 pain and China and your hearts just like, come on, man, 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.880 from it now. At Also the other last thing about PCPs, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.880 it's one of the few drugs that will kill you. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.360 But it's not from the drug itself. It doesn't give 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.880 you a heart attack. You don't overdose. You die from 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.960 taking the drug and doing dumb stuff. It literally is 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.920 the drug that causes you to die from, not an overdose. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.320 Can you overdose on pc You can, Yeah, you can 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.319 definitely can use. People lose ansciousness whereas if they're going 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.440 to die, what happens is because you kept consciousness. I see. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.040 So now they call it the emergence reaction. When the 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.520 PCP comes back up days later, and this can happen 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.960 is like sometimes weeks later. Right, So keep that in 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.080 mind as we dip into the story of Walter Scott. Now, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.840 have you ever seen a drug trip go bad? Yeah? 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.559 Like how bad was it? We like people like all right, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.400 you're from Davis. I went to you C Davis. Yes, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:37.240 and there's an event every year called Picnic Day and 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.360 one year it fell on April. Yes, I think I 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.360 know that you're talking about. And it was a dumpster fire, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.480 and uh yeah, there was there was a lot of 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:54.280 ingestion of the marijuana products. And you wouldn't imagine that 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.240 people would have bad I mean, like I've seen people 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.199 lose it like on other things. But um, so one 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.960 made a big batch of these brownies. And you know, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.200 I'll say at that time, I was like a total 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.880 I was totally like straight edge. I didn't drink, I 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.760 didn't do any drugs, and I also owned a really 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.160 badass Ford Bronco and so I became the de facto 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.800 designated driver for everyone when they get too messed up. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.120 So I get this call from my roommates and like 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.880 you got to help us. And someone was like hiding 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.320 in a bush and wouldn't come out, and someone else 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.679 was like lost, and someone else was in a tree, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.160 and I just wound up driving all over Davis, like 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:40.000 going to different locations and coaxing people out of areas casualties. Yeah, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.720 and then just like tending to everyone there at home, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.800 and it was you know, so I've seen that, but 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.240 I mean, I suppose I've also seen like really terrifying ones. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.400 You know, people I've seen My friend Arthur did an 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.240 acid trip and apparently got like a bubble of strychnine 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.440 or whatever in his asset because he couldn't stop shaking. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.319 He was violently shaking and convulsive. It was so bad 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.280 we had to call an ambulance. But we're all on acid, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.040 so we decide we're gonna come up with the plants 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.280 so none of us can be connected to him. So 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.400 we put him like in this one room downstairs in 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.199 the dorms, and then we all act like we stumbled 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.520 upon him. So walking in, hey man, are you okay, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.440 trying to act like we don't know this guy's a 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.080 bunch of people and asked it doing it a little yes, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.760 And then I remember the ambulance pulls it up. They 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.640 back up, they take Arthur out, and he's still like 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.960 violently shaking and terrified. And then right when they got 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.719 him on the gurney, right when they're wheeling him into 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.960 the ambulance, the doors are still open to the ambulance. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.840 He pops up looks at us from the gurney. He 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.880 goes yeah, and then falls back and the doors closed 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:40.080 and he drives away. We're like, okay, Arthur, so that 0:12:40.760 --> 0:13:03.880 is nothing compared to what you're about to hear. Okay. Now, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.480 the day is August one. That day may sound familiar. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.439 Do you know why that day sounds familiar? No, it's 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.800 the day that MTV started broadcasting for the very first time, 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.520 with the words ladies and gentlemen, rock and roll. MTV 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.440 hit the air. Do you remember the first music video? 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.560 Was the first music video video, Killed the Radio Star? 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.319 All right, now, double down, double your jeopardy? Can you 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.199 name the second music video? No? I would have never 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.160 guessed the side to look it up. It was Pat 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.360 benatars you Better Run. I don't even know what song 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.760 that is. I don't either. I just keep like when 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.160 he you Better Run? Wasn't that like a there's some 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.600 metal song and then there's a there's a swinging utters 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.600 punk song line of never mind. I'm thinking of a 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.000 lot of different versions. Have You Better Run? Iron Maiden's 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.000 Run for the Hills? Yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.160 So they have the you Better Run. We'll just call 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.920 that even though neither one of us know the song 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:02.280 that's our theme song for today. Okay, stepped on and 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.800 he's swinging other songs all day. Now, for this story 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.080 of Walter Scott, I'm going to occasionally quote from the 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.920 legal brief that analyzed the appeal case that resulted from 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.600 the charges brought against Walter Scott, which you can find 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.920 on law dot Justia dot com. I'll go over there 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.720 right now. Okay, Now, to start off, quote, on the 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.560 evening of August first, defendant Walter Scott, accompanied by his brother, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.040 Charles Scott, attended a family reunion type party. The brother 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.320 noticed a large punch bowl filled with red punch and 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.840 saw the punch bowlder filled several times during the course 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.760 of the party. He also observed the defendant drinking some 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.680 of the punch. At some point in the evening, the 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.120 supply of ice ran low, and the brother volunteered to 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.960 go to the store to get more. When he left, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.640 everyone including the defendant, appeared to be behaving normally. However, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.920 when he returned, the brother noticed that the behavior of 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:54.440 the party guest had changed dramatically. Boom. So someone at 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.560 this one family reunion backyard party, I thought it would 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.720 be funny to spike the punch, Like what if I 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.080 root my whole family? Like can you imagine being at 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.560 a party and going PCP as the answer? Like I 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.440 used to think about that when, um, we would have 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:15.320 faculty meetings when I was an English instructor at a 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.960 college and no, I mean, they don't have these big 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.280 things of sweet tea, and I'd wonder, like, well, it's 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.680 a huge vat of it. What if someone just put 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.160 a tiny little drop of acid in there? What would happen? 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.600 Yea with acid, you need not a ton, but yeah, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:35.120 I mean micro dosing an entire room of faculty. My 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.280 friend wants to put magic mushrooms on my mushroom pizza. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.120 I was at his place. We're talking. He put I 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.640 didn't know what he put like that tons I hate 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.800 like two slices. Like forty five minutes later, I'm starting 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.600 to get off and he's just starting to chuckle, and 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.560 I put it together. I'm like you, muther, oh that 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.160 I just screaming by myself in my friend's house. Sorry, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.760 Like I mean, I didn't. Mine was a thought exercise 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.600 in boredom in a faculty meeting. I would never do that. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.960 I just it really is terrifying to me to be 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.240 like given a substance without my knowledge. Were you scared 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.600 when you don't get scared? Like, fear isn't really the 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.240 thing for me unless it's like a snake. Can you 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.840 show me a snake. You'll see all kinds of fear 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.000 you've never seen any human. But other than that, you 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.400 give me like jugs. I don't know what's going on. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.800 I'm like, this will pass. You know, like it's not great. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.920 I'm not digging it, but this will pass. I knew 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.760 like it would be fine. I've taken plenty of psychedelics. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.760 At that point, I was a little not pissed, but 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.560 I was like, Oh, I'm gonna get you back. Oh 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.400 I am so going to get you back. So I 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.600 poured five gawns of white painting inside of his truck. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.600 Well I even Stevens, Yeah, right, So then he climbed 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.120 up on a roof and through five gowns of paint 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.000 on top of me. So we kept that guy. I 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.960 feel like this is still going back and forth to 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.840 this day. Yes, it kind of is. Anyway, getting back 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.160 to our party with Walter Scott backyard family reunion right now, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.280 He's sitting there hanging out. The brother comes back to 0:16:54.320 --> 0:17:00.480 the party and he sees just chaos. Right. So, going 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.840 from the legal documents quote, one man, pointing to the 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.200 floor stated there was a dog in the room. He's 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.439 not in the room, he's in the backyard. Several people 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.840 holding glasses of punch to their hands were vomiting. Another 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.080 party guest, Eleanor Michelle Sutton, testifies in Walter Scott's a 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.639 Pellet Case, and she says, quote after she arrived, she 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.160 did not notice anything unusual. She did notice a punch 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.320 bowl on a table and observed a woman refilling the 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.520 bowl with punch. Approximately fifteen or twenty minutes after the 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.320 bull would refilled, Sutton observed that some of the people 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.439 that were dancing were falling on the floor and if 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.680 you were throwing up, you know, just you know the 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.320 kind of She's like, I'm not going to have any 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.399 of the drink, thank you. So Eleanor Sutton, she spots 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.120 Walter Scott at this party, right, and she's like, what's 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.560 up with him? Now? From the appellate case quote, she 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.280 noticed defendant whom she had never met before, with a 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.560 cup of punch in his hand, talking about the Bible 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.440 and stating that the world was coming to an end. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.879 That sounds like a fun family time. I mean, like 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.639 I think I've been to this party. So she's like, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.840 this is not the party I thought I was coming to. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.680 And she's like, when can I leave? Now? The brother 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.919 has just arrived back and he's like taking in this 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.760 same exact scene. So he's like, oh man, I gotta 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.840 find my brother. This is not cool, right, So he's 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.239 like looking around. He finds Walter Scott over there, you know, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.359 drinking punch, talking about how the world's gonna end in 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.840 like have you read the Bible? And he's like, oh man. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.040 So he's like and he goes over to his brother 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.080 and he's like stunned to see his brother's eyes are 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.919 doing that swirly thing. And he's like, oh no. And 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:28.600 but he's familiar with PCP, right, He's like, well, you know, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.080 he'd taken actually a drug training class apparently, so it 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.720 wasn't a year he did. He'd taken DARE. He was 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:38.120 a DARE graduate. He dared to say. So Walter Scott 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.280 is beginning to see what I can only describe as 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.159 a personal nightmare. From his appellate case, we know that quote. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.520 At some point during the party, he began to see 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.480 intense colors and heard helicopters and loud sirens. He stated 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.800 that his body was clumsy and he was sweating, had 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.920 difficulty talking, and felt as if his heart was beating rapidly. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.879 That's like me on an afternoon. It's like Tuesday, right, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.280 So you hear the Tacha CARDI, Yeah, you hear some 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.520 of the effects. The eyes are spinning. You're starting to 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.160 know because you know what the signs of PCP are. Now, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.719 this guy has definitely got a PCP intoxication event going on, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.560 and it's happening badly. So his brother knows, like you, 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.960 this is not good. Something deeply wrong is occurring, and 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.240 he's like, I need to get you out of here. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.320 Screw this backyard family reunion. We're going home. So he 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.720 takes his brother, grabs him by the hand, and leads 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.640 him to the car. So they flip his hair out 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.800 of the way, so he puts on his glinked sunglasses. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.000 Come on, we're out of here, bro. So they go 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.960 and they hit the car and that'sn't have been. Things 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:36.080 start to really get sideways. So the more this is 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.800 just the beginning. So, as we know from the appellate case. Quote, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.840 on the way home, defendant told his brother he could 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.879 see a big fireball in the sky, and then he 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.240 could see the brother and his in laws in the flames. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.320 He the defendant described it as hell, and he stated 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.160 either that they were trying to pull him in there 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.400 or he was he was trying to pull them out. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.040 So he's got like a whole like ontological theological hell 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.919 fight going on with all of his family after lea 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.440 this party. This is such a good insight into his psyche. Wait, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.000 just wait, this is just the beginning. So he at 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.639 this point decides, well, you know what, maybe I should 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:12.480 just fly home. So quote. He's like, no, I'm cool. No, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.200 you guys go, there's a fireball. You guys are trying 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:16.639 to pull me into hell. I'm just gonna fly home 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.679 like so quote. At some point during the ride home, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.560 defendant stuck his head out of the car window and 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.359 stated that he felt good enough to fly home. He 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.600 tries to crawl out of the window of the moving 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.919 car and flap his happy ass home, right, so, but 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:32.919 his brother knows what's up. He's like, man, this is 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.400 angel dust. I know what's up. So he's like, I'm 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.800 from the streets, guys, I'm from l A. He's been dusted. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:43.080 He's definitely been sideways dusted by the angels. Everybody get 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.159 your figurines. So he tells his brother. He gets the 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.719 home safely, doesn't jump out of the car, and he's like, okay, 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.480 let's just get you to bed, gets into bed. He 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.240 wakes up the next morning, he feels better. Boom, you 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.000 see nothing to be afraid of. This is what I'm 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.560 telling you. But there was something to be afraid of. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.359 While he feels better, he calls his brother and he's like, yeah, man, uh, 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.320 I feel like I'm back to normal. Things should be cool. 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.080 And he's like, yeah, it's just whatever happened the night before. 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.000 So he goes. It's a Sunday morning. He goes to church. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.800 He goes with his family and he's thinking, everything's cool. 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.080 I mean he's going to pray about what he's done. 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:17.960 Oh yeah, he's gonna get right with the Lord. You remember. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.760 He's like, look, almost got dragged into hell yesterday. I 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.280