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Speaker 1: long in the league. Welcome into the lounge presented by

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings. We are riding high here, Garrett five game

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Speaker 1: I don't think that a lot of the pundits, like

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Speaker 1: a lot more. Um, But I think I I do.

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Speaker 1: I like Josh on the field at linebacker. I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, Patrick Queen was able. You asked about

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen last week. He was able to kind of

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Speaker 1: play move over to the weak side spot and fly around.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be curious to see how the Ravens continue

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Speaker 1: to kind of tweak this inside linebacker rotation. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: what we saw last week, how much of a tweak

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be. To be honest, it might just be

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Speaker 1: what we saw last week. I think so yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Josh played well and and I think you know,

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Speaker 1: all the responsibilities that are involved with the middle linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's just at this point of his career

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Speaker 1: and at Patrick's point in his career. I think that

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Speaker 1: Josh is just a little better suited to handle that

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Speaker 1: right now. And it's also you know, I think ultimately

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Speaker 1: the Ravens want to get Patrick Queen back into that spot, right. Like,

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Speaker 1: to me, this is like a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: time out, right, And I don't mean time out like

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. Like you punish your kids with just exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like, let's take a break here, Let's let Patrick

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Speaker 1: kind of get his you know, bearings a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, because as Patrick said, it can

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Speaker 1: be tough to hear that Josh said. I'm sorry is

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Speaker 1: Josh said, it can be tough for Patrick and any

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Speaker 1: young player to kind of hear the criticism and to

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Speaker 1: feel like you're messing up. You know, it's not just

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Speaker 1: the criticism that you're feel from the outside. He knows

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Speaker 1: he feels it. I'm sure like the mistackles hurt him too,

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Speaker 1: you know. And so I think it's like you said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a break of reset, and

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Speaker 1: but I think that Josh is like handling it so

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Speaker 1: well that it can be he can turn into an

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Speaker 1: extended kind of thing, you know, for the time being.

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Speaker 1: But at some point the season, I expect Patrick Queen

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Speaker 1: to be back in the middle of taking nineties some

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, and that's the long term position

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Speaker 1: for Patrick obviously, right right. So it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what they do on Sunday because that Bagel's offense,

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Speaker 1: they you know, they can put up some points, all right.

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Speaker 1: We got an email here. As always, you can email

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Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens thought NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: Josh sent this email, said he loves the poet he's

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Speaker 1: listened to since episode one. Yeah, thank you, Josh. Uh. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other piece that was missing that uh in the

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Speaker 1: running game in his mind was boy Kin. He said,

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Speaker 1: he's a stud blocker on the outside, has some really

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Speaker 1: nice blocks against the Chargers. He said that was missing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was there on the Lean Bells point was previous

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Speaker 1: that that Boykin's an unsung here running game against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, yeah, I mean he cracked a

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a safety or a

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Speaker 1: linebacker on Levan Bells to your touchdown run, Go back

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Speaker 1: and watch that one boy can comes downhill and you

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Speaker 1: hear that. Um so yeah, I mean, obviously I think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna be getting better in the run

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Speaker 1: game by virtue of Nick Boyle coming back. I think

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Speaker 1: now with Patrick er Card, you know, one game, each

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Speaker 1: game that he plays more removed from that hit procedure

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Speaker 1: that he had all season, the stronger he gets. And

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Speaker 1: then you add in Boyken, you know, you add a

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Speaker 1: lot of blocking firepower for lack of a better word

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Speaker 1: to that, and boyken Is is certainly part of that. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: the one piece that you don't get back is Ronnie

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Speaker 1: Stanley and that was announced on Tuesday that the Rams

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Speaker 1: replacing Ronnie a season ending into reserve, had another ankle procedure.

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Speaker 1: You know, just disappointing that. The hope was obviously for

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Speaker 1: him to get back to full strength. He took the

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Speaker 1: field in week one, returned about midwidth through training camp,

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Speaker 1: played in week one, just didn't feel right, you know what,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't right, and then you know, they took this

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Speaker 1: last month or so to kind of figure it out

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Speaker 1: and work behind the scenes and see if you could

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Speaker 1: come back, and ultimately determined couldn't do it, needed to

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Speaker 1: get another surgery and get right. Tough blow, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think that's kind of the obvious

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Speaker 1: no doest statement. But the hope there is that doing

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Speaker 1: the surgery brings Ronnie back at full capacity, fully healthy

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Speaker 1: next season, and maybe that's the best case. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like you just bite the bullet. You missed the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, but when you do, rather than

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Speaker 1: play the season at whatever, I'm just swing out numbers.

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Speaker 1: But then you come back next year and he's ready

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Speaker 1: to go full capacity. That's the that's the hope. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have a second foot surgery, you know, or ankle surgery.

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Speaker 1: That's not great, you know what I mean. And like

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Speaker 1: anytime you're coming off of surgery, I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: times do we talk about while he's coming off surgery,

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Speaker 1: so you know, give a little time. You know, now

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Speaker 1: he's having it early obviously, you know, with a couple

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Speaker 1: of months left in the season. Um so, that that

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Speaker 1: gives him a two month head start, um so. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's not a good situation, especially after the Ravens

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Speaker 1: paid the guy what they paid him, you know, made

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Speaker 1: him one of the highest paid left tackles in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think that Ronnie can get through this, but it's

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Speaker 1: worrisome that one surgery didn't fix it entirely, you know,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens gave him a lot of time. They

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Speaker 1: used them back into action. It wasn't like you got

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Speaker 1: thrown out there mandatory mini camp, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he didn't take the field till halfway through training camp,

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Speaker 1: didn't played a few snaps in the preseason, like you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean like, yeah, it's it's not good. Um,

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Speaker 1: I will say one thing that's very good. How's that?

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Speaker 1: Eric to Costa Ali Handra of Villain the waives sign

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Speaker 1: and looking right now? I mean, honestly, I mean there

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Speaker 1: there's the torches were out after Vegas week one, probably

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Speaker 1: Hondra of Villain, the wave of ra the raves flock,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you've extinguished that torch by now, because

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Speaker 1: god lie, where would they be without him? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's slid over the left side, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's played well Patrick McCarry on the right side. Do

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Speaker 1: not overlook what he's been able to do McCarry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy has played every position on this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable that I don't know. I'm sure that's happened

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but not often. And to be able

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Speaker 1: to play center and tackle that almost never has he

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Speaker 1: gotten a game at left. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he's played. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's played left. He's played in practice, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: may have. He may have got some snaps at left

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Speaker 1: tackle at some point. I don't remember exactly, but but

547
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Speaker 1: but my point here is just the guys played everywhe

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Speaker 1: and he's playing at a really high level on the

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Speaker 1: right side. Um. And you know, Lamar Jackson talked today

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Speaker 1: and basically said, you know, look big Al mccarrey, they're

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Speaker 1: doing well. You know, they're protecting me in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have one comfortable back there exactly. I mean

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Speaker 1: they've one. They've won the last five games. Lamar is

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Speaker 1: playing at an m VP level. So of course you

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Speaker 1: want Ronnie Stanley on the field, but I also think

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Speaker 1: it's you should not overlook the way that Al's playing,

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Speaker 1: the way that McCarry is playing, and the way that

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Speaker 1: Lamar and the offense is a whole playing. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, Nick Boyle coming back whenever he's ready for

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Speaker 1: game action. You know, he would turn to practice on

561
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Speaker 1: Wednesday whenever he's ready to be playing a game. That's

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Speaker 1: another huge blocking asset. You know, it's not an edge

563
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Speaker 1: blocker necessarily like a tackle would be, but he's the

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Speaker 1: closest thing to a tackle. Um. So I mean that

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are this is a tough blow,

566
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Speaker 1: but they're getting healthier, Like they're getting stronger. Rashad Bateman

567
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Speaker 1: every game he plays. He's gonna get better, right and

568
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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins get him back on the field. Now, what

569
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Speaker 1: do we look like with three wide receivers Marquise Brown,

570
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Speaker 1: how you know, uh, Stavey Watkins and Rashad Bateman, Like,

571
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Speaker 1: what's that look like? Plus d Rene is playing really well.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think this team, despite the news

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Speaker 1: of Ronnie Stanley, is trending in the right direction. And

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Speaker 1: and there are at a position here if they get

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Speaker 1: to win on Sunday over the Bengals. Sitting here at

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Speaker 1: six and one, best record in the division, best record

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Speaker 1: in the a f C going into the by not

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Speaker 1: a bad place to be with a matchup, and then

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Speaker 1: the next few games Vikings Dolphins. Dolphins could get interesting

580
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Speaker 1: that they have Deshaun Watson, by the way, which reports

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Speaker 1: of that possibly, but they go Vikings Dolphins Bears, and

582
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Speaker 1: then you got that Cleveland Pittsburgh Cleveland. You know, things

583
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Speaker 1: get crazy in the back half of the season. My

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Speaker 1: point is they could be in a good spot here,

585
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Speaker 1: and they're in a great spot right now, but you

586
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Speaker 1: gotta take care of business and that and that obviously

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Speaker 1: starts on Sunday. Are you going to predict it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think this is a wait, let me call out

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Speaker 1: with score before I say it. Oh wow, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the score. You never go with the score.

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Speaker 1: I would just like to I, I, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is a little promotion for Ravens pregame live. You can

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Speaker 1: watch it on our Apple I'm just blow up. You

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Speaker 1: can watch it on our app. Canna give me through.

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Speaker 1: Get through all the spots where you can watch it,

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Speaker 1: our website, ceetv app, YouTube channel, facebook page, you can

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Speaker 1: watch all those places. Okay, all right, But I said

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Speaker 1: on there that it was gonna be a resurgent game

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Speaker 1: for the defense, and it was gonna be the running

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Speaker 1: game setting up the passing game, and that the ground

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Speaker 1: game was gonna have a big day. Well but come on,

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Speaker 1: they were the thirty second run defense. Anybody, even analysts

603
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Speaker 1: helped going to predicted that one. Well, the last two

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Speaker 1: weeks have been all air, the aerial attack, and I

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Speaker 1: predicted it. Money. I'll give you money credit for the

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Speaker 1: defensive resurgence. Money. A lot of people were saying it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a shootout. Anyway, all right, back to all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm warming up. We're back up, get a crank, back up.

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Speaker 1: The delay This is gonna be a ten point win,

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Speaker 1: ten pointer, which is closer than the recent ones have been,

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Speaker 1: but it's still up Penguin