Speaker 1: I want to talk about plastic surgeons. This is important.
Speaker 1: I did the plastic surgeon shop. I did a plastic
Speaker 1: surgery hall. I did the meet and greet, I did
Speaker 1: it all. I'm not going to name names right now,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to name types of doctors, and we're
Speaker 1: going into it. First. I went to the guy who
Speaker 1: has become a hot shot doctor. The reputation is they're
Speaker 1: just churning and burning and doing many, many, many procedures.
Speaker 1: Now there are specialists. So there's a guy that years
Speaker 1: ago did a lit I did did a boob lift.
Speaker 1: I always had bigger boobs even growing up, and they
Speaker 1: were just they just were like hanging early because they
Speaker 1: were just big and gravity means they're gonna hang. Um.
Speaker 1: So I years ago got a lift from a man
Speaker 1: named Dr Baker. He was expensive. It was very expensive,
Speaker 1: like people could be getting them for six thousand, five thousand,
Speaker 1: eight thousand, and I guess there's some sort of formula,
Speaker 1: and it's for plastic surgery. Like facelifts, it's five It
Speaker 1: can be up to five times cheaper in Florida, which
Speaker 1: isn't even a cheap place, but New York is the
Speaker 1: most expensive. Okay, l A is probably a very close second.
Speaker 1: But I think New York is the most expensive, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody really goes to New York, so um,
Speaker 1: and the prices are going to astound you. So the
Speaker 1: boobs were like fourteen thousand back then, but I know
Speaker 1: people could get them for three five, six eight. That
Speaker 1: was like the best. And you're not really trying to
Speaker 1: funk around with things like this, so uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um. So that was a
Speaker 1: boob guy. Now it doesn't mean he's not a plastic surgeon,
Speaker 1: doesn't do lightbo suction and other things. I guess that
Speaker 1: was a boob guy. There's a housewife who's um was
Speaker 1: on Miami and I guess they're getting a divorce. The
Speaker 1: Hackstein and that guy he has he just sold like
Speaker 1: he has like a fifty million dollar house on Star
Speaker 1: and in Miami. He's a boom guy in Miami. So
Speaker 1: he's just booming it up. He's booming it all day long.
Speaker 1: There was a guy years ago, Dr Diamond, and you
Speaker 1: could tell his nose jobs. He was the nose guy.
Speaker 1: The first guy was like the guy that everyone says
Speaker 1: like he's gotten really popular. He's done many housewives and
Speaker 1: he's churning and burning. Okay, And I went to this
Speaker 1: person and this person was um, you know, hip and
Speaker 1: cool and UM came in for me. Many of these
Speaker 1: people came in on that day for me, was their
Speaker 1: day off or that not the day they're doing surgery,
Speaker 1: but very nice and complimentary and um. Many of them
Speaker 1: told me, you just chronologically looking at your face, your
Speaker 1: face looks forty eight years old, and that between forty
Speaker 1: eight and fifty two fifty three is when the optimal
Speaker 1: time is if you want to do some sort of
Speaker 1: version of a lift. Now, I've had friends who have
Speaker 1: done their eyes. They get that they have that droopy
Speaker 1: eye syndrome. It could be hooded eyes or just their
Speaker 1: eyes are drooping, or they have extra skin they're sagging.
Speaker 1: I don't have that issue. That's one problem. Another problem
Speaker 1: my friends have had is that neck like a turkey neck. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't. I have a little bit of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I am of a certain age, but I don't. That's
Speaker 1: not like a problem for me. It's not the thing
Speaker 1: that's bothering me. Where these two women or these several
Speaker 1: women have had One woman I know had an eye issue,
Speaker 1: another woman a drew by I issue. Another woman is
Speaker 1: saggy skin, eye issue. One friend the turkey neck, another
Speaker 1: the jowls bothered her. This is gravity. Your skin is
Speaker 1: falling on your face. So while you may say to
Speaker 1: somebody they don't need something, or you hear about all
Speaker 1: these people getting something done, in many cases the argument
Speaker 1: is that these are things to do. They are locking
Speaker 1: the door before you get robbed. You don't have to
Speaker 1: agree with any of this. You could think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to talk you through it. The forty
Speaker 1: eight fifty three is about you are getting older. Your
Speaker 1: skin will fall, You'll lose elasticity and collagen and actually
Speaker 1: fat in your face, and you will get that sort
Speaker 1: of hollow it's right near your dimples, like it's a
Speaker 1: hollow in your face because everything's coming down. That's why
Speaker 1: the gel's form, because the skin is coming down. That's
Speaker 1: why the turkey neck happens, because the skin is coming down.
Speaker 1: And presumably if you start with that eye problem, that
Speaker 1: skin is coming down also. So those are popular things,
Speaker 1: and um some people go in they really want a
Speaker 1: big change, like they tell the doctor. Some people want
Speaker 1: nobody to notice anything. It's just like you've got a
Speaker 1: good night's sleep. Some people want to look ten years younger.
Speaker 1: Other people want to look ten times better, but not younger,
Speaker 1: because many people look good, but they look done. They
Speaker 1: look like they've had something, and that, to me is
Speaker 1: not good. But some people really want that as the
Speaker 1: as the plastic surgeons told me, l a look the
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, Look, the Upper east Side. Look. It's a look.
Speaker 1: You know the look. You've seen it. It's shiny, it's plastic.
Speaker 1: It can be jokery. Here's another thing. If you decide
Speaker 1: you're going to do it, do it right. Do not
Speaker 1: cheap out on this. If you can't afford to do it,
Speaker 1: it's better to not do it. Okay, don't cheap out
Speaker 1: on something important. Do a lot of research. My friend
Speaker 1: found somebody for twenty thousand dollars, including the overnight stay,
Speaker 1: to do a facelift. Other people have paid a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars in New York and got the exact
Speaker 1: same result. It doesn't mean that expensive is better because
Speaker 1: the most expensive person I saw I found to be
Speaker 1: not the best, and I have reasons why. So that's
Speaker 1: one thing. This is just not something to go on
Speaker 1: a money saving expedition for and you have to think
Speaker 1: about what your goals are. One person, because my only
Speaker 1: thing that really bothers me about my face is the
Speaker 1: line going under my nose across when you smile. There's
Speaker 1: a big line. And one person said, if I do
Speaker 1: a liplift that sounded fine liplift grade, that it would
Speaker 1: be gone. Another person said that it would be partially
Speaker 1: gone if they did a liplift, but they wouldn't do
Speaker 1: a liplift on me because you will look very different.
Speaker 1: And I know a friend who did a up lift
Speaker 1: and it kind of lips. You lifts your lip off
Speaker 1: and then you're going to see more of your teeth,
Speaker 1: if that's something that you care about. But like like
Speaker 1: everything else, your lip is drooping too, it's falling. So
Speaker 1: the third person said that they that they would not
Speaker 1: even do a liplift and that a lip lift wouldn't
Speaker 1: even do anything for that line, that there's nothing that
Speaker 1: can be done for that line. So one person said
Speaker 1: that line would go away with a liplift. The second
Speaker 1: person said it would only go away partially and that
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it because you look very different. The
Speaker 1: third doctor said, nothing will ever take away that line. So,
Speaker 1: and guess what, I believed every person, every single thing
Speaker 1: they said. This is why it's complicated, and you have
Speaker 1: to do your research, and you have to really look
Speaker 1: up reviews and talk to other people because this is frightening.
Speaker 1: You're sucking around with your face. Okay, so one person
Speaker 1: said to me, and it was almost three it was
Speaker 1: like three hundred thousand dollars to do what they wanted
Speaker 1: you to do. Okay, you needed a lip lift, you
Speaker 1: needed something up top by your eyes, you needed something
Speaker 1: at the bottom, all of these things when you weren't
Speaker 1: even sure you needed anything. Second of all, it makes
Speaker 1: sense that you're supposed to take care of yourself and
Speaker 1: locked the door before you get robbed. What was also
Speaker 1: indicated to me by many people is that earlier is better.
Speaker 1: Someone very famous in this industry said to me, everyone
Speaker 1: has done something. You are late, not pressuring me, just
Speaker 1: saying they're all lying and you're not even at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this. Because I thought, oh, I'm not sixty five,
Speaker 1: so I'm at the beginning of this. I am not
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this. Forty eight to fifty two
Speaker 1: is the optimal time to do something, because when you
Speaker 1: get into your sixties, it will last less time. I've
Speaker 1: heard this from many people. So if you do something
Speaker 1: between forty eight and fifty two on the average, or
Speaker 1: with a face that looks forty eight fifty two on
Speaker 1: the average, it should last like fifteen years, and some
Speaker 1: people say that they could last forever. I had an
Speaker 1: excellent lift that I overpaid for and I have had
Speaker 1: it for fifteen years and I and everything looks great.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. So if you get it
Speaker 1: done in your sixties, this is also a general's but
Speaker 1: more often than not, it will only last seven years
Speaker 1: because you've come in a little bit late into the process.
Speaker 1: And there's also a lot more to do. There's a
Speaker 1: lot more to cut. So these are things to think
Speaker 1: about if you don't you know, just to think about,
Speaker 1: if you want to think about it, if you want
Speaker 1: to be educated. I went one time last year or
Speaker 1: two years ago just to get educated, to hear what
Speaker 1: they had to say, and didn't do anything. I'm not
Speaker 1: against this. I'm not saying I'm doing something, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear so the first person gave me the
Speaker 1: full fledged liplift. I think the droopiness that the next thing,
Speaker 1: all of it, I was going to come out perfect.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I was going to be a living doll,
Speaker 1: but no one would notice. L O L. That's a
Speaker 1: person that one of my very famous friends said, Hell, no,
Speaker 1: funked up my friend's face. That's a person that I
Speaker 1: saw someone's work and didn't like and was a little nervous.
Speaker 1: But then have another friend that went to them that
Speaker 1: looks amazing. So that's a situation where it's either that
Speaker 1: my friend who went to them and looks amaze sing
Speaker 1: dodged a bullet um the other person wanted all that
Speaker 1: crazy look. I don't know, but here's another thing that
Speaker 1: I heard from these doctors. If they are doing work
Speaker 1: on some bad work you've had before, they can only
Speaker 1: work with what they've already what's coming in there. That's scary.
Speaker 1: Now you've gone for the cheapo job and now you
Speaker 1: get Now it's like anything else. You buy something shitty
Speaker 1: and then you go in and you end up spending
Speaker 1: the money to get the real thing. You eat something
Speaker 1: you didn't really want to eat because you were trying
Speaker 1: to like not eat the real, good quality thing or
Speaker 1: eat the thing you really wanted. Then you've eatn the
Speaker 1: shitty thing and then you go back and eat the real,
Speaker 1: good quality thing. So the point is, if you're going
Speaker 1: to do something, fucking do it right and research, because
Speaker 1: what you don't want is to go into a doctor.
Speaker 1: They've got to clean up an old mess, and no
Speaker 1: matter how good they are, it's gonna look like shit.
Speaker 1: So that's scary. Okay. So the first guy was a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a hot shot, does a lot
Speaker 1: of this and seemed more like, let's do it all.
Speaker 1: The second guy, which was what very recommended to me
Speaker 1: as the air mes of these guys, was actually, you know,
Speaker 1: took me into a very private space. It seemed very
Speaker 1: professional in private, even from within the office, and um,
Speaker 1: I had to wait like ten minutes. Paul came with
Speaker 1: me and really really just seemed like they knew the
Speaker 1: most of anybody. I can't even explain. There was a
Speaker 1: calmness to them. And it wasn't just that they said,
Speaker 1: I don't want it to look like you've had anything done,
Speaker 1: because everybody's gonna say the same thing. They want natural,
Speaker 1: They're all gonna say the same thing. This person, though,
Speaker 1: thought it was a terrible idea for me to get
Speaker 1: a liplift for that line, said that it's going to
Speaker 1: be you will look very different. And you are on TV,
Speaker 1: you're forward facing. You know, remember when Jennifer Gray got
Speaker 1: her nose done the girl from Dirty Dancing and it
Speaker 1: was like drastic, or you've seen Nicole Kiman or Meg
Speaker 1: Ryan and just that all this work was drastic and
Speaker 1: you don't even know what was done. And to me
Speaker 1: more and all these people, um, some of the Kardashians,
Speaker 1: Like he said, you've you got a lip lift to
Speaker 1: fix that line, which is the only thing bothering you.
Speaker 1: It could look very different. You know, this is not
Speaker 1: supposed to be done, so you're supposed to look perfect.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a little bit of like preventative sagging.
Speaker 1: So um, he just seemed very mature, not in an
Speaker 1: old way where he just seemed like he knew what
Speaker 1: he was doing and there was a confidence to him.
Speaker 1: And they're speaking your language, they understand your needs. Then
Speaker 1: I met another person that I thought was lovely sweet.
Speaker 1: It seemed like almost a junior version of this other
Speaker 1: very professional person, likely less expensive because the second person
Speaker 1: was was literally a third of the price of the
Speaker 1: hot shot person who wanted me to do the whole
Speaker 1: menu was a third of the price, still a fortune
Speaker 1: a fortune, but the third person, I believe is arguably
Speaker 1: is less expensive and seemed like a very very fine option,
Speaker 1: could be excellent, would do great work. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of people around the office, and I didn't feel
Speaker 1: the privacy that I would desire, Meaning if I were
Speaker 1: to do something like this, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: part of a coffee clutch. I know in any office,
Speaker 1: people are gonna talk, and they're gonna know them coming
Speaker 1: in there, and it's not going to be a secret
Speaker 1: because I'm telling you about it. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to feel like I'm walking into like a group, you know,
Speaker 1: water cooler conversation with a bunch of people that work
Speaker 1: in office. So Paul noted that he's like I. It
Speaker 1: seemed a little more juvenile. It seemed like we're it
Speaker 1: was a little more collegiate, and he didn't like that
Speaker 1: aspect of it. We want sort of the down the
Speaker 1: hall into the private office, come through the back tour experience.
Speaker 1: That's what he wanted for me, even though we know
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna know, and I'm gonna tell everybody, but on
Speaker 1: my own fucking terms. I just felt a little uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but was perfectly good. And then again my friend and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen her in a while since she had
Speaker 1: it done, so I'll have to comment later. But she
Speaker 1: got it done for about a fifth of the price
Speaker 1: of these quotes, and she looks good. The point is,
Speaker 1: it's very confusing. The one thing, and I will tell
Speaker 1: you this. One of the people the last time I
Speaker 1: went to look two years ago, said did you ever
Speaker 1: have filler? And I had had it one time uptown UM.
Speaker 1: I had had filler because I had gotten my job
Speaker 1: botox to reduce it, which takes is a gradual process.
Speaker 1: It's not just in one day. But then my I
Speaker 1: had that hollow thing I was telling you about, and
Speaker 1: so my dermatologists said that I should put some filler
Speaker 1: in UM. And I did find no problem. It was
Speaker 1: very light, it didn't matter. I don't remember noticing it.
Speaker 1: Who cares. I think I bruised. But they the plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon had seen that I had had once said filler.
Speaker 1: He said, it's firm. I guess it never goes away
Speaker 1: or it stays there. That's scary, but I guess it
Speaker 1: just stays there or forever. I don't know. You can't
Speaker 1: see it. I don't have it in It was like
Speaker 1: a long time ago. It's gone down, but I guess
Speaker 1: two years ago he had seen it. What they all
Speaker 1: say is botox is no problem. You could do botox.
Speaker 1: So the cows come home. That filler is not good.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they said. They said the strings,
Speaker 1: there's like a Merrionette thing. I know, Sonya was public
Speaker 1: about doing it, like they put a bunch of strings
Speaker 1: in your face to pull it up. They all said
Speaker 1: that was bullshit. They said all therapy they said that
Speaker 1: was bullshit. They said that the filler, which is a
Speaker 1: lot of that Hollywood you see, that looks like, you know,
Speaker 1: shiny like round high chipmunk cheekbones, which also can be
Speaker 1: a lift. But that look that like jokery look, and
Speaker 1: that like glossy like high cheekbone look, which I have.
Speaker 1: None of This um is all from all that filler
Speaker 1: ship and that string ship and that old therapy ship.
Speaker 1: And they all said that ship is bad. Don't do
Speaker 1: that ship. So while everybody had a different opinion about
Speaker 1: everything and what you should do and what you shouldn't do,
Speaker 1: and how much it costs and whatever. Every one person
Speaker 1: wants you to go to an oxygen tank and a
Speaker 1: hyperbaric champ chamber and stay in a hotel next door
Speaker 1: and do appeal. And everybody's a different program, believe me.
Speaker 1: And they're still all making money and they're probably making
Speaker 1: million a year, so don't worry. Um. But everybody said
Speaker 1: that the filler ship is bad, that you're chasing youth.
Speaker 1: The filler is because you just want to chase youth
Speaker 1: and not do this plastic surgery stuff. So that's another
Speaker 1: level of bad. And you know, I'd rather just age
Speaker 1: gracefully and do nothing then look like a fucking filled clown.
Speaker 1: So it seems to be that botox if you choose
Speaker 1: to do it, well, you know, which I will do
Speaker 1: like once or twice a year if I remember, is
Speaker 1: good and also preventative, and that all that other ship
Speaker 1: that doctors are trying to sell you is not going
Speaker 1: to get you where you need to get because your
Speaker 1: skin is still going to fault, and that it's going
Speaker 1: to look fake and that it's bullshit. So that was
Speaker 1: my plastic surgery tour. Um. I'm not sure what I'm
Speaker 1: going to do, but I believe that at some point
Speaker 1: I will do something. I don't know what and I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but I do I agree that I
Speaker 1: look like forty eight years old in my actual features
Speaker 1: and face. Um, people always are telling you, you know,
Speaker 1: oh god, she's getting old. She got older. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: getting older. There is a clock right now. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think I'm older than when we started this podcast,
Speaker 1: to be honest, so I am aging. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to do to know that. I went on a fact
Speaker 1: finding mission. And if you do want to do something thing,
Speaker 1: you should probably do it between forty and fifty three
Speaker 1: because it's all coming down. So if you do know
Speaker 1: and you don't have to do anything, and people look
Speaker 1: totally beautiful and um, like my fiance's mother is old,
Speaker 1: you know, older, and she looks gorgeous and she's never
Speaker 1: had anything done. There are certain people that haven't had
Speaker 1: anything done look amazing. Because you're allowed to have a face,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to age, you're allowed to have wrinkles. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, if there's something that bothers you, and mine
Speaker 1: is that line over my lip, and I can't even
Speaker 1: control that anyway, So whatever that means to you. Filler
Speaker 1: in the lip is to have a bigger lip. That's
Speaker 1: a little different than filler in the face. I guess
Speaker 1: if you want a bigger lip, then that's your own choice. Um,
Speaker 1: And the lip lift will show more of your teeth
Speaker 1: and be a lip lift. I mean, if you you're
Speaker 1: allowed to also want, like we put makeup on and
Speaker 1: we put a hot pink, you know, nails on, you're
Speaker 1: allowed to want a little bit of a worked look.
Speaker 1: That woman, Hakstein, who is married to the plastic surgeon,
Speaker 1: has had everything done and you can see it. But
Speaker 1: like that, you know, she looks worked, but it looks pretty,
Speaker 1: and maybe she looks older because she's had work. My
Speaker 1: assistant says, when she sees someone that looks like they've
Speaker 1: obviously had plastic surgery, they just automatically look older to
Speaker 1: her because they've had something done. And I know women
Speaker 1: in their sixties who look amazing. Their skin looks like
Speaker 1: a porcelain doll, but they still look older because they
Speaker 1: look like they've had something done. So Lisa Hackstein is
Speaker 1: a great example of someone who's probably been open about
Speaker 1: her work. I think she looks like a doll, but
Speaker 1: like other people think that looks worked. Some people like
Speaker 1: Erica Jayne looks like a doll. Different people look like
Speaker 1: a doll. But I kind of don't mind that look.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't look good on me. Other people, like
Speaker 1: the Kim Zulziac type people or these glamoramas, they look
Speaker 1: like a doll. But like that's a look and you
Speaker 1: are allowed to have, like a big, bulbous vpl. I
Speaker 1: think it's called b b L or something. Ass and
Speaker 1: curves and long extensions and nails and a thing. It's
Speaker 1: just that it's going to look like a look, and
Speaker 1: that's something you have to want. Some girls can pull
Speaker 1: off that doll look and look amazing, so that lip
Speaker 1: lift is gonna get I would look and I don't
Speaker 1: think it's who I am as a person walking around
Speaker 1: in pajamas and show you my black circles and my
Speaker 1: do my own hair. My own fiance gets his hair
Speaker 1: cut by one person who'll only go to I'm like
Speaker 1: I said to him last night, you're fucking going to
Speaker 1: a specialized hairdresser. I literally do my own hair color.
Speaker 1: But in my house, I'll let anyone cut my hair,
Speaker 1: so I don't seem like the one who needs to
Speaker 1: look like a perfect doll. It just would seem a
Speaker 1: little off brand, not just publicly inside my own body.
Speaker 1: So you can fucking do it up Lisa Renist style
Speaker 1: if you want. That's your own big you know, Collagen
Speaker 1: lip look. And you know she's got the cheeks and
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and there's a look there that's totally fine.
Speaker 1: It's a very Housewives look. The Beverly Hills look has
Speaker 1: become the Housewives look and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: It just looks done. And me being in that pool
Speaker 1: adjacent makes me notice it more too, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm the only one who wasn't done anything.
Speaker 1: I haven't done. I know they've all done plastic surgery
Speaker 1: and I haven't done it. Um, So it's about your goals.
Speaker 1: What do you want? And yeah, you that filler look,
Speaker 1: that Collagen look, you want that look look, go for
Speaker 1: the look. So just know what you want before you
Speaker 1: go in there.