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Speaker 1: I want to talk about plastic surgeons. This is important.

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Speaker 1: I did the plastic surgeon shop. I did a plastic

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Speaker 1: surgery hall. I did the meet and greet, I did

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Speaker 1: it all. I'm not going to name names right now,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to name types of doctors, and we're

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Speaker 1: going into it. First. I went to the guy who

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Speaker 1: has become a hot shot doctor. The reputation is they're

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Speaker 1: just churning and burning and doing many, many, many procedures.

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Speaker 1: Now there are specialists. So there's a guy that years

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Speaker 1: ago did a lit I did did a boob lift.

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Speaker 1: I always had bigger boobs even growing up, and they

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Speaker 1: were just they just were like hanging early because they

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Speaker 1: were just big and gravity means they're gonna hang. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I years ago got a lift from a man

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Speaker 1: named Dr Baker. He was expensive. It was very expensive,

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Speaker 1: like people could be getting them for six thousand, five thousand,

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Speaker 1: and it's for plastic surgery. Like facelifts, it's five It

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Speaker 1: can be up to five times cheaper in Florida, which

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Speaker 1: isn't even a cheap place, but New York is the

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Speaker 1: most expensive. Okay, l A is probably a very close second.

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Speaker 1: But I think New York is the most expensive, and

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Speaker 1: I think everybody really goes to New York, so um,

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Speaker 1: and the prices are going to astound you. So the

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Speaker 1: boobs were like fourteen thousand back then, but I know

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Speaker 1: people could get them for three five, six eight. That

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. Um. So that was a

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Speaker 1: boob guy. Now it doesn't mean he's not a plastic surgeon,

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Speaker 1: doesn't do lightbo suction and other things. I guess that

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Speaker 1: was a boob guy. There's a housewife who's um was

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Speaker 1: on Miami and I guess they're getting a divorce. The

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Speaker 1: he has like a fifty million dollar house on Star

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Speaker 1: and in Miami. He's a boom guy in Miami. So

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Speaker 1: he's just booming it up. He's booming it all day long.

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Speaker 1: There was a guy years ago, Dr Diamond, and you

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Speaker 1: could tell his nose jobs. He was the nose guy.

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Speaker 1: The first guy was like the guy that everyone says

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Speaker 1: like he's gotten really popular. He's done many housewives and

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Speaker 1: person and this person was um, you know, hip and

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Speaker 1: cool and UM came in for me. Many of these

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Speaker 1: people came in on that day for me, was their

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Speaker 1: day off or that not the day they're doing surgery,

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Speaker 1: but very nice and complimentary and um. Many of them

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Speaker 1: told me, you just chronologically looking at your face, your

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Speaker 1: face looks forty eight years old, and that between forty

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Speaker 1: time is if you want to do some sort of

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Speaker 1: version of a lift. Now, I've had friends who have

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Speaker 1: done their eyes. They get that they have that droopy

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Speaker 1: eye syndrome. It could be hooded eyes or just their

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Speaker 1: eyes are drooping, or they have extra skin they're sagging.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that issue. That's one problem. Another problem

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Speaker 1: my friends have had is that neck like a turkey neck. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I have a little bit of that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I am of a certain age, but I don't. That's

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Speaker 1: not like a problem for me. It's not the thing

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Speaker 1: that's bothering me. Where these two women or these several

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Speaker 1: saggy skin, eye issue. One friend the turkey neck, another

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Speaker 1: the jowls bothered her. This is gravity. Your skin is

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Speaker 1: falling on your face. So while you may say to

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Speaker 1: somebody they don't need something, or you hear about all

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Speaker 1: these people getting something done, in many cases the argument

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Speaker 1: agree with any of this. You could think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to talk you through it. The forty

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Speaker 1: skin will fall, You'll lose elasticity and collagen and actually

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Speaker 1: fat in your face, and you will get that sort

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Speaker 1: nobody to notice anything. It's just like you've got a

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Speaker 1: good night's sleep. Some people want to look ten years younger.

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Speaker 1: Other people want to look ten times better, but not younger,

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Speaker 1: because many people look good, but they look done. They

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Speaker 1: as the plastic surgeons told me, l a look the

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, Look, the Upper east Side. Look. It's a look.

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Speaker 1: You know the look. You've seen it. It's shiny, it's plastic.

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Speaker 1: It can be jokery. Here's another thing. If you decide

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Speaker 1: you're going to do it, do it right. Do not

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Speaker 1: on something important. Do a lot of research. My friend

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Speaker 1: to do a facelift. Other people have paid a hundred

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Speaker 1: same result. It doesn't mean that expensive is better because

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Speaker 1: the most expensive person I saw I found to be

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Speaker 1: not the best, and I have reasons why. So that's

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Speaker 1: a money saving expedition for and you have to think

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Speaker 1: And I know a friend who did a up lift

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Speaker 1: and it kind of lips. You lifts your lip off

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Speaker 1: You're sucking around with your face. Okay, so one person

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Speaker 1: indicated to me by many people is that earlier is better.

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Speaker 1: Someone very famous in this industry said to me, everyone

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Speaker 1: They've got to clean up an old mess, and no

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Speaker 1: So that's scary. Okay. So the first guy was a

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