1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The other week, we got an email that I never 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: expected to get saying, hey, I really liked what you 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: guys did on your show. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Which a mistake. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: Was it from my mom again, But know. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: That they were serious. They were talking about a thing 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: that we tried called a closure. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Call that I honestly that was so touching. It really was. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: It was a little bit more of a serious segment 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: where we helped one of our listeners get some much 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: needed answers about a sketchy situation from their past. And 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: because of that, afterwards, we got more emails from people 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: one enclosure themselves, and in this case, a guy named 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Travis wanted our help reaching out to somebody from his past. 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: So Travis, welcome to the show. 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: How you doing. 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm all right, but I admit I'm a bit 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: nervous this part. 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean take a deep breath. 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I hear you, but I got to 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: just say that I'm afraid you probably can think I'm 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: just some sold or something giving you this last story. 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Well I know most of those would tell you no judgment, 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: but I can't promise that from this particular start. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: A sentence like that, and it's kind of. 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Well, help if we call you one now and get 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: it over with you. 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've seen your email, Travis, But my co 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: host don't know your story yet. Why don't you tell 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: us a little bit about the situation that you're in 31 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: right now? 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: All right, right now, I'll tell you. I'm in my forties, 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: I'm married, I have a couple of kids, and right 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: now I'm working for an air conditioning company. 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: Okay, nice. 36 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: So who is the person that you're looking to get 37 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: closure from, right? 38 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Megan? 39 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: Okay? And who's Megan? 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: She was my fiance twenty years ago? 41 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay? 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: Was wow? 43 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Ago? 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: I gotta say, I would hope you'd be over your 45 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: ex by now. 46 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Again, what happened? What happened? 47 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Kids? 48 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: Okay? So yeah, we were young, right, we met right 49 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: out of college. Okay, things happen fast, and I proposed, 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: she said yes. 51 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: Okay, So at that point, life is good, right, oh? 52 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: So good? Right? I mean, just incredible time. But I 53 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: don't know if any of you have really been in 54 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: the situation where you really love someone but deep down 55 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 4: you just know something about it. It's just not going 56 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: to work out. Like, Okay, I really still believe that 57 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: we were not soulmates. 58 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I actually don't. 59 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: I was never engaged before my husband, like I knew 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: for him. But my best friend did go through a 61 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 5: couple of engagements before she actually got married. 62 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: And they were really hard. 63 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: When did you realize you were having that feel those 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: types of feelings about your fiance. 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: This is the hard part for me to admit now, 66 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: is what I did, Okay, is that I actually didn't 67 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 4: know I felt this way about us about her until 68 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: the day of our wedding. 69 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: Oh that is that tiny Wait. Why why on the 70 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: day of your way did you change your mind? 71 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: It's it just it just smacked me. Is the biggest 72 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: feeling ever had? Best part it was on Valentine's Day? 73 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,559 Speaker 5: Oh oh wow, God, dumb daggers everywhere. 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's rough. 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: What do you do in that moment when you have 76 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: that realization? 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: I h yeah, I panicked. Is a is an understatement, 78 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna set the scene for you, Okay, okay, 79 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: So the big day is there to day of our wedding. 80 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: Families are there, Okay, I'm in my tucks. 81 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Oh we're that far into the day. 82 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: College buddies are surrounding me, right, and they keep making 83 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: jokes like they can't believe I'm getting married so young, 84 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: like I'm the first one in our friend group by far. 85 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 86 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And at this point, like I thought I was 87 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: doing a good job of kind of internalizing it, but 88 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: really I felt it like head to toe like I'm panicking, 89 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: like I'm thinking, am I really ready to do this? 90 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: Like what am I doing? What have I done? 91 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 92 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: And I remember now I spent twenty minutes like puking 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: my guts out. 94 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Not just to drink. Done much before the. 95 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: Have you voiced this emotion obviously, that is just raging 96 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 5: inside of you to any of your friends at this point. 97 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: No, I mean I think they saw, they know it 98 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: was nervous, but they just felt like, oh, yeah, he's 99 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: nervous because again they'd never been like groomsmen or you know, 100 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: being at a wedding before like that. 101 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: I would have just assumed you were hungover from the 102 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: night before. 103 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: So what do you do? 104 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: So I I made the excuse, right, I told my 105 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: best man, I gotta get the vowels actually left to 106 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, idiot, I left the vowels in the car. 107 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be right back, Okay, So. 108 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: I get I get into the car and I started 109 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 4: and I just drove away. 110 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Without telling anybody. 111 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like, and I just I drove. It was 112 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: like four hours driving. Yeah, I was crying the whole time, 113 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: pounding the steering wheel. Somehow did not get another wreck. 114 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: I can't imagine, you know. 115 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to feel sorry. 116 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 5: Like, I know you know that that was a bad choice, 117 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 5: and I'm glad, but like, I can't imagine what your 118 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: fiance was going through. Oh why didn't you just like 119 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 5: talk to her or go find her or even walk 120 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: down the aisle and then not sign the marriage certificate? 121 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: Like there's so many other options. Why why do you 122 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: know twenty options? 123 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: Sorry? I had did that? I mean I had to 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 4: have like a million awful conversations. 125 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: You know. 126 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't just to my family court obvious, Yeah, of 127 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: her family and oh to Megan's father, like my would 128 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 4: be father in law. 129 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh God, what did he say? 130 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: He wanted to kill me? You wanted to kill me? 131 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: Wait? 132 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: So you did talk to them afterwards? 133 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean again, after I drove the car away, 134 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: after it was like the end of the day, after 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 4: I've just told her what was going on, because we 136 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: were reaching out all my friends, anybody else I could 137 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: find out where I was. 138 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: I mean, what did you say to them? 139 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: Just I couldn't go through that day. I couldn't do it. 140 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: I apologize them everything, everything, how I loved her, and 141 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: they wouldn't hear that, Like how I I'm so sorry. 142 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: I reached out. I tried to got to Megan, like 143 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: that's the big thing, multiple times, like nanny times. No 144 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: response even when old school, like just writing letters to 145 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: like ask her sister, can she give the letter to her? Please? 146 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: I'm sure Megan's sake, and you don't even deserve a response. 147 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I never got one. 148 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's well, Oh man, crazy. 149 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: I did hear that she got married like about four 150 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: years later? Yea, that's really all I know. 151 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: She just stayed in that church for four whole years 152 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: until someone came. 153 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, I mean she may look at it 154 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: as the best thing that ever happened to her, not 155 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: to be terrible, but like now she's in a happy marriage, 156 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 5: and if you had actually walked down the aisle, you 157 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: guys may be stuck in some terrible situation right now. 158 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: But the thing is, I don't I don't know if 159 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: she's happy I know that she got married. I know that. 160 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: Here's my no. I know it's been twenty years, all right, 161 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: I know that, like I have my life partner, my 162 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: soul mate. But the thing is, I just I felt horrible. 163 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: I've always wanted to find out did she ever find 164 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: real happiness? Really? And can she possibly ever forgive me? 165 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: And then I could, you know, go on with the 166 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: rest of my life. 167 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: So this isn't necessarily to make her feel better. It's 168 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: to absolve yourself of this guilt. 169 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: Well, look, it does. It bothers me obviously to know 170 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: that I that I did this. I mean, I'm taking 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: ownership of yes, I did this, But it does bother 172 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: me to no end that I caused someone so much hurt, 173 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: so much pain that yeah, they won't even reply. 174 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 175 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: And so obviously you know how these work, Travis, Like, 176 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: this isn't an awkward Tuesday where we let you talk 177 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and we're just waiting on the line. We actually reached 178 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: out to Megan already and asked if she'd be willing 179 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: to answer a few questions and we'd be able to 180 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: read them over the air to you and to all 181 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: the listeners hopefully get you a little bit of closure here, 182 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah. So unfortunately she did not respond, 183 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: so this whole segment is worthless. Yes, we're going to 184 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: talk to somebody else. 185 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: Better tell your kids we said. No, I'm just kidding, Travis. 186 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: We already know you already know that Megan responded, and 187 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: you're about to hear from your ex fiance for the 188 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: first time in over two decades. 189 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Are you sure it's not just a bunch of middle 190 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: finger emojis? 191 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out. We're doing your closure. 192 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Call, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. 193 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: It's the much less anticipated sequel to Run Away Bride, 194 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Drive Away Groom, featuring one of our listeners, Travis. He 195 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: wants our help today getting answers in something that we're 196 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: doing called closure Call. And just a few highlights if 197 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: you missed the first part or I guess low lights, 198 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. 199 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say it's a happy thing. 200 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: This went down over twenty years ago when Travis was 201 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: in his early twenties. He proposed to his girlfriend Megan 202 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: and she said yes, and everything seemed good. But on 203 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: the day of their wedding, which was supposed to happen 204 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, he got a serious case of cold feet. 205 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: He panicked, and he drove off in his car. Didn't 206 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: tell a soul that he was doing that either, Not 207 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: even his best man knew. And all this time later, 208 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Travis still feels horrible about that decision. He spent all 209 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: these years wondering, does Megan forgive me? 210 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: Is she happy? 211 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: So? Travis, what are some of the things that you're 212 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: hoping to get out of this? 213 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I hope for closure. Obviously, that's why we're 214 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: all here, right, But I hope that comes with can't 215 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: she except my apology? 216 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: God? 217 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: Man, I hope she does understand that how much it's 218 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: pain me and hurt me, and that hopefully she understands 219 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: that it was such a hard decision. And I just 220 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: wish her the best and I feel so sorry about 221 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: it all. 222 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I doubt that she was probably thinking about the 223 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: pain you were going through, But I think that her 224 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: answers are going to be really tellian. I'm like, basically, 225 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: how much self work has she done? Is she at 226 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: a void in her life where she can forgive something 227 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: like this? 228 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: Because that is crushing. 229 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Here are the questions that we sent her. Travis and 230 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: our producer worked together on coming up with these. So, first, 231 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: hey girl, you up, I'm sorry. Joke ussion joke. 232 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: The first real quas is not funny. 233 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: They didn't do that. 234 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: First question that we sent her was I know that 235 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: day was absolutely miserable for you. Do you know that 236 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I tried to talk with you about it afterwards? 237 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 5: That's what. 238 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, maybe she doesn't even realize that he was trying 239 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: to get a hold of her because she wouldn't even 240 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: talk to him. So, Travis, are you ready to hear 241 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: her answer? 242 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: Ah? Yeah, this is this is it. Let's go. 243 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So she wrote back, she said, yes, I know 244 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you tried to reach me, but I ignored your calls. Yeah, 245 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I didn't read your letters, and I burned all your pictures. 246 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: Oh that seems healthy to me, not at all, because at. 247 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: The time I hated you that much. 248 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: I needed to move on and I knew nothing that 249 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: you could say would make me feel better about the situation. 250 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if I expected. I guess that that 251 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: actually is about what I expected. I mean, that's what 252 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: I assume happened. That She's just she ignored it that 253 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: I had burned pictures. Okay, but I I can't blame 254 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: her for it. 255 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: Well, but there is hope in that. 256 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: Did you hear her say at the time, Yeah, that 257 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 5: means that isn't still currently how she's feeling. 258 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: Yes, that's something. That's something I picked my little bit 259 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: of hope there. 260 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: So we're going to go to the second question that 261 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: we sent, which was I feel awful about how I 262 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: handled it. 263 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: I was a coward? Can you ever forgive me? 264 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: Oh man question? 265 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, this is the question you really want answered. 266 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, boy, So your ex fiance Megan wrote back 267 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: to that. She said, yes I can forgive you, and yes, 268 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: you also are a coward deserve. 269 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: She actually wrote that, Yeah. 270 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, like I'm laughing to get the first part, 271 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: like I'm kind of happy, but also like yeah, yep, 272 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: don't blame her for that either. 273 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least you guys are on the same page 274 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: with that sentiment. 275 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah we agree on that, right, we agree. 276 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, she sounds like a really emotionally mature person. 277 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: Are you sure you made the right decisions? 278 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: A click? 279 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you still feel that way, Travis, You still 280 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: feel like you're a little bit of a coward. 281 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I will say age twenty two, met has 282 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: definitely grown so much. Yeah, and the fact that she 283 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: said that I can forgive you. I mean, that's just 284 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: some maturity and that I I don't know. 285 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: That's that's great to hear, well, and hopefully it's one 286 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 5: step closer for you to forgive in yourself for it 287 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 5: as well. 288 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: Now, that's it, and that's the main thing, you're right. 289 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So those are two questions. We're onto the third 290 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: question we sent her, and we asked, are you happy 291 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: with the life that you've made for yourself now? Yeah, 292 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: because that was one of the things you were worried about. 293 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: You were wondering is she happy with where she is 294 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: after all this went down? 295 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to know that she had a healthy 296 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: life afterwards. Yeah, because it's half our lifetime ago act. 297 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: She is her forties now too, so yeah. 298 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: So I mean you were sincerely worried that you ruined 299 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 5: everything for her? 300 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I hope she answers. 301 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 302 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: So Meghan wrote back she said, yes, I'm extremely happy. 303 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 304 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: That was the good part of the response. She goes on, 305 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: Obviously I dodged a huge bullet by not marrying you. 306 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: I told you I ended up with a much more 307 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: attractive man. 308 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: Don't laugh at it. 309 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Brooke. 310 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: This is her chance, right, this is her chance. 311 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 5: This is what she's been playing out in her head 312 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 5: for twenty years. 313 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: She says, he's funnier, he makes a very good living, 314 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: and my daughter is going to an Ivy League school, which, 315 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: let's be honest, probably never would have happened if I 316 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: was with you. Ps I heard you work for an 317 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: air conditioning company. Hah, that's what she wrote. 318 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: I love her. 319 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: I don't think you had to go into that much detail, 320 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: to be honest. 321 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: I bet you don't. 322 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Should I not read the other two pages of that answer? 323 00:13:53,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, kind of even now Safer 324 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: gave you. 325 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what you need to take from this. 326 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: You know, of course she's not gonna like you. Those 327 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: are two different, true, different things. 328 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not harp on this anymore. That that must 329 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: be hard to hear. So let's just go to the 330 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: fourth and final question. 331 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: That we said, one more. 332 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Do you foresee sometime in the future where we could 333 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: grab coffee and I could apologize to you in person? 334 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 335 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: Wow, that's remember. 336 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Remember we sent all of these questions to her at once. 337 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Had I known that this was going to be her response. 338 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: We never would have sent that. 339 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: Last, but you asked her to coffee? Would your wife 340 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: be okay with that? 341 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: Yes, she would because the face to face that I 342 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: would have with Megan, to actually be able to apologize 343 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: to her would have been so huge for me. 344 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, this is a big deal for you. This 345 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: is this answer. 346 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: That's a sincere apology. 347 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Honestly, here's what Meghan said. Ha ha ha ha ha. 348 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: There's way more has in that response. 349 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: But I ran out of breath and then she put 350 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: who emojis and when I put them together, they mean 351 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: something pretty bad. 352 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: I can't even say it here. 353 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, Travis, it looks like coffee's probably not in 354 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: your future with her. 355 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: I don't you know, I don't. 356 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 5: I don't think she needs the apology. It sounded like 357 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 5: you needed it and it's not going to be something you. 358 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: Can I mean, you got to take it. 359 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: At least you got the forgiveness out of this whole thing. 360 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: She forgives you for it. 361 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right now. I mean, like question two 362 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: is a big one for me, Like that's it. 363 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to totally forget about question three though. 364 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel a little bit better though, Travis, 365 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: after we've done all this, I know that probably wasn't 366 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to hear. 367 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: No, it was not easy, But that's the whole thing, right, 368 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: This is not pretty easy for me this entire time. 369 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: But you offered this closure call thing, and I wanted 370 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: to get on board, and this was a goat opportunity 371 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: and I really appreciate it. 372 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: And now you're motivated to get your kids into an 373 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: IVY League school and show her. Yeah, damn well, thanks 374 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: for being on with this, Travis. And remember, if you're 375 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: interested in making a closure call to get a little 376 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: peace of mind for yourself, you can email the show 377 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: or hit up our socials at Brook and Jeffrey. 378 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: Can you show me how many haws are in this? 379 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll show you an emails after this. 380 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning, Brook and Jeffrey 381 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: in the Morning.