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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Nori with you. Doctor Bruce Solheim, PhD served in the

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Speaker 1: US Army as a jail guard, later as a helicopter pilot.

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Speaker 1: He earned his PhD in history from Bowling Green State University.

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Speaker 1: Bruce is currently a Distinguished Professor of History at Citrus

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Speaker 1: College in Glendora, California, where he has taught a paranormal

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Speaker 1: personal history course since the fall of twenty eighteen. He

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Speaker 1: studies quantum theory and has developed a model that may

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Speaker 1: help explain our quantum reality, ghosts, reincarnation, alien contact, and more.

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Speaker 1: And Bruce has been abducted several times. As seen UFOs

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Speaker 1: continues to have contact with an alien and alien beans.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Solheim is an associate member of the Parapsychological Association,

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Speaker 1: a member of CIRO and Mouffon, as well the Mutual

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Speaker 1: UFO Network. Bruce, welcome back to the program. Good day,

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Speaker 1: have you hey, Thank you George. It's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, what a work here are the progenitor and

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Speaker 1: progenitor means like the starter of a family, right right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the beginning, the original, the original contact in this case,

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Speaker 1: and this has been going on for you for how

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Speaker 1: many years now? Well, I've figured out that my first

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Speaker 1: experience with him was in nineteen sixty four, and that's

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Speaker 1: when I was six years old, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: been kind of with me the whole time. In ninety

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Speaker 1: communication with him. And then really since twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 1: I decided to start telling my paranormal stories, you know

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Speaker 1: what's been happening to me since I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I've been in continuous contact with him since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing story tell us for people who don't

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Speaker 1: know who ends Are is, and of course a book

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Speaker 1: you just wrote, who is ends Are? Yeah, he's self

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Speaker 1: described ancient alien mystic and he is as he's in

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Speaker 1: the spirit world, so he's from the progenitor, so he

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Speaker 1: was the first. He said that he was the first

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Speaker 1: contact for humans, and he often says that he gives

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Speaker 1: us nudges. He uses the word nudges, which it makes

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Speaker 1: me laugh when he when he tells me that. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, when he tells me this, it's through

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Speaker 1: the spirit walks I take. When I get into a

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Speaker 1: meditative state, I can talk to him. And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been, you know, continuously since twenty eighteen. And I

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Speaker 1: transcribe all my contact with him during the spirit walks,

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Speaker 1: and I recorded on my phone, not that you can

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Speaker 1: hear his voice on my phone, but I hear what

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Speaker 1: he's saying and I say it into my phone. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I transcribe it. I have about three hundred pages of

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Speaker 1: Has he ever arrived in a craft at all? Or

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Speaker 1: is all this done by some form of telepathy with you?

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Speaker 1: It's well, in nineteen sixty four he showed me through

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Speaker 1: a you know, kind of a holographic image a ship,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't take me in the ship. He just

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Speaker 1: kind of showed it to me. So I've never been

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Speaker 1: in a ship with him. So it's always been you know,

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Speaker 1: just the you know, telepathy end of vision, you know,

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Speaker 1: being able to see him. I don't see him all

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Speaker 1: He he always says, you know, depict me as you wish.

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Speaker 1: But the best way I describe him most of the

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Speaker 1: time that I see him, he kind of looks proto human.

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Speaker 1: He's very tall, and he kind of looks proto human. So,

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Speaker 1: in fact, the only other person that's seen him was Lucinda,

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Speaker 1: my friend Lucinda from the Zero group, and I she

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Speaker 1: us about an experience at a sero meeting where I

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Speaker 1: I always like to mention my friend Jean, who passed

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Speaker 1: away in twenty sixteen. A month after he passed away,

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Speaker 1: he came to me in a vision which I've had

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Speaker 1: as a result of that, I published my three Timeless

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Speaker 1: You know, when I do these spirit walks, I gotta

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Speaker 1: it reminds me that this kind of stuff is rather frightening.

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Speaker 1: But if you can work through kind of the scariness

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Speaker 1: How often do you connect with ants? Are? I take

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Speaker 1: on average about two to four spirit walks a week. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in touch with other people too, Bruce? Are just you? He? Well,

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Speaker 1: about some of the things Bruce, that he has embarked

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Speaker 1: as people from the grassroots, from the ground up, and

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