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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show you might be

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Speaker 1: able to tell from my voice fighting through a cold,

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Speaker 1: and also had an amazing trip appre shaped Buck holding

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Speaker 1: down the Fort. Yesterday, I went up to Chicago where

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Speaker 1: I spoke on gender and voting, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Buck that I'm going to be invited back, but I

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Speaker 1: would encourage you guys to go check out the YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Producer Ali watched it a lot of fireworks. Was not

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Speaker 1: a Clay Travis or Buck Sexton fond room. Hundreds of

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Speaker 1: undergrads at the University of Chicago, super smart school, and

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Speaker 1: I think I made some arguments that many of them

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Speaker 1: had never heard before. We're going to play you some

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Speaker 1: of those cuts. I think you guys will enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: It's also posted up at the Clay and Buck website.

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Speaker 1: But Buck yesterday, well, first of all, some good news.

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Speaker 1: Tulsea Gabbard has officially been confirmed. We told you that

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Speaker 1: that was very likely to happened. It appears that every

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Speaker 1: single cabinet nominee that Donald Trump put forward that will

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Speaker 1: have reached a hearing is going to be nominated, which

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Speaker 1: is actually quite rare when it comes to second terms

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Speaker 1: and presidential picks all being confirmed. So this speaks to

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Speaker 1: the mandate that Trump has put in place that all

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Speaker 1: of the people he wanted to be a part of

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Speaker 1: his administration are going to be confirmed, including Tulca, Gabbard

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Speaker 1: and RFK Junior. And let's talk for a minute, Buck

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Speaker 1: about something that would typically have been a big point

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Speaker 1: You met Tulci for the first time several years ago.

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Speaker 1: I had Tulsi on my sports talker radio show back

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Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary and needs to be talked about more. The

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Speaker 1: extent to which Trump has built an entirely new coalition

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Speaker 1: of Republican voters. And many of you out there listening

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Speaker 1: to us right now, all over the country did not

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Speaker 1: vote Trump in twenty sixteen. Some of you did not

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Speaker 1: vote Trump in twenty twenty. Some of you did not

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Speaker 1: vote Trump until twenty twenty four. Trump gained twelve million

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Speaker 1: voters between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four, and it's

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Speaker 1: become a much bigger tent as a result. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you, like Rfk Junior, that's what brought you into Trump,

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Speaker 1: some of you like Tulca Gabbard. I think this is

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Speaker 1: an incredible credit to the coalition that Trump is building.

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Speaker 1: Buck Elon Musk voted for freaking Joe Biden in twenty

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Speaker 1: Trump train at a different point in time. But there

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Speaker 1: now is a diverse coalition of thought embedded in the

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Speaker 1: Trump cabinet that features a lot of people who would

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Speaker 1: far more impactful than a coalition of people who are

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Speaker 1: focused entirely. For instance, not that there's anything wrong with

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Speaker 1: can possibly be. But I think Democrats have sought so

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Speaker 2: It's also just in terms of the raw politics of

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Speaker 2: That clearly has not been a successful campaign by Democrats.

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Speaker 2: this has been a phenomenal for few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I know it's very early.

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Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot that the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: They're already starting this, but.

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Speaker 2: Clay, just the the stuff that we are that when

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a tough time with this for a

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Speaker 2: long time. Some of these people who are going on TV,

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Speaker 2: who are saying, I mean, I watched that Elon press

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Speaker 2: And it was it was phenomenal. I did not know this,

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Speaker 2: and I worked for the federal government, that there is

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Speaker 2: a mine shaft somewhere with like I thought this was

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Speaker 2: That Just to be clear, this is real everyone, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there is a mine, like like an old mine you'd

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Speaker 2: There is a mine that is in a mountain. That

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Speaker 2: is where they store the paper files for federal government retirees.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: This is cut Clay. We play this. This is cut six.

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Speaker 2: This is the craziest of all the dough stuff. I

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Speaker 2: think in some ways this is crazier than transgender puppet

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Speaker 1: I think this is even crazier. This is cut six. Play.

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Speaker 3: We're told the most number of people that could retire

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Speaker 3: possibly in a month is ten thousand. We're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 3: Because older timement paperwork is manual on paper. It's manually

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Speaker 3: to mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where we

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Speaker 3: stole all the retirement paperwork. That look and you look

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Speaker 3: at picture of the picture of this mine. We'll post

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Speaker 3: the pictures afterwards. And this is this mine looks like

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Speaker 3: something out of the fifties because it was started in

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Speaker 3: and sometimes and then you can't nobody can retire.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound crazy?

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Speaker 2: This is real buck Business Insider, which is a left

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Speaker 2: wing site. The federal paperwork mine in dogs Crosshairs is

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Speaker 2: real and bizarre. We're sitting here there's it looks like

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Speaker 2: to find you know, we're like the Hogwarts.

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Speaker 1: I mean sorry, the Harry Potter mine. You know where

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Speaker 1: they had like the bank, you know if you the

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Speaker 1: even sound real, like clay, how is this possible?

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Speaker 2: The foot We should put up some photos of the

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Speaker 2: facility up on clayanbuck dot com just just so people

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Speaker 2: around ten thousand federal employee retirements a month? Does this

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Speaker 1: By the way, Like I can you imagine like you

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Speaker 1: tells me? There's several things that tells me. No one

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Speaker 1: ever gets forced out of the federal government if they

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Speaker 1: still process retirements on paper, right, like no one ever leaves,

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Speaker 1: like there's never any massive change. It is the very

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Speaker 1: essence of a bureaucracy that is awful. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Buck. This reminds me when I moved to

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Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands, you got a driver's license, and

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Speaker 1: In other words, it was not automated in any way.

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Speaker 1: The fact that we still have an unautomated system to

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Speaker 2: Feet underground in a mountain. It looks like an old

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Speaker 2: mining town photo. This is It's Greenhut's bank. And and

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Speaker 2: you have Elon and Trump and and Doge on the

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Speaker 2: one side of this issue issue pointing to it being like,

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Speaker 2: hey guys, maybe we could do better than this, a

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Speaker 2: everything the federal government does is perfect, every dollar spent

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Speaker 2: is sacred. You can't change anything. And anyone with two

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Speaker 2: we've got a big problem here. Yeah, this is you know,

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Speaker 2: there's what they're doing, but there's also the way that

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Speaker 2: they are informing, really educating all of us. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: the paper work for federal retirees two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: feet underground. You have to use a special mining elevator

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Speaker 2: to get there, I would say, no way, Like I

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Speaker 2: think the government is crazy, but no.

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Speaker 1: Way, way it is real. What would be the reason

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Speaker 1: why this would not all be automated and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to say, I don't know seventy

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Speaker 2: Has to always stay the same. That's how the Democrats think.

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Speaker 2: And also buck nobody ever leaves. And I think this

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Speaker 2: you pointed it out. But if a huge percentage of

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Speaker 2: Normal people see this and go, you want them to

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Speaker 1: Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: You've done beautifully. And he's got a great mother.

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Speaker 2: do you if you win when you get my son out?

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Speaker 1: And I promise. She's ninety five years old, and I said,

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Speaker 1: we'll get him out. And we got them out pretty quickly.

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Speaker 5: Only exact words.

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Speaker 1: She's mad, quite an impression. We just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: him back home.

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Speaker 2: I had to get a back home because I would

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Speaker 2: have had big trouble with his mother.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, buck? Just as we sit here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a dad and I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: out there. Mom's grandma's Grandpa's Imagine being ninety five years

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Speaker 1: old and being afraid that you would die with your

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Speaker 1: son in a Russian prison, never knowing if he would

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Speaker 1: ever come home again. And you vote for Trump and

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Speaker 1: you go out and within a month of getting into office,

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Speaker 1: he brings your boy home. I just I mean, that

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Speaker 1: makes me kind of feel a little bit emotional to

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Speaker 1: think about her at ninety five. Can you imagine getting

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Speaker 1: that phone call? You know, I can only imagine how

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Speaker 1: awful it is to have something like that happen, no

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Speaker 1: matter how old you are as a parent, But to

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Speaker 1: think like I'm going to potentially die and never know

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Speaker 1: whether my son comes back. You know what I also

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Speaker 1: loved about that, It's an amazing story. I love it.

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Speaker 1: The minute he stepped off that plane. You know what

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Speaker 1: he did, kiss the ground, Yeah, kissed the ground when

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Speaker 1: he got back to America.

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Speaker 2: You know what is one thing that we're seeing across

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Speaker 2: the board with Trump's ascension that yes, it was true

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Speaker 2: the first time around, but it is just so magnified

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Speaker 2: because of the comeback that he's had and the narrative

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Speaker 2: and the promises made, promises kept. Patriotism is cool again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a big shift for this country from under

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Speaker 2: a Democrat administration that achieves power by frightening people and

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Speaker 2: driving this country down. Putting this country down payt Trump

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Speaker 2: has made and the people around him and his team

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Speaker 2: and his voters have made patriotism cool again, and it's powerful.

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Speaker 1: I've argued this, and I know you know it because

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Speaker 1: you traveled all over the world with the CIA. Every American,

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Speaker 1: if you had to live a year in the average

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Speaker 1: way that the rest of the world lives, you would

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Speaker 1: kiss the ground when you came back to America. Most

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Speaker 1: Americans are so spoiled they have no idea what daily

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Speaker 1: life is like in Africa or Asia, or large portions

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Speaker 1: of the Middle East. We have no idea how good

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Speaker 1: we have it. And the younger you are, the more

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Speaker 1: clueless you are. And I do agree that when I

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Speaker 1: see somebody who's rescued like this and they kissed the

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Speaker 1: ground when they come back into the country, I think

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Speaker 1: almost every American would do this if they spent a

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Speaker 1: year living in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, as an

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Speaker 1: average person in those continents, in those parts of the world.

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Speaker 1: Does I just got back from a college campus late

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Speaker 1: last night, went up to Chicago to the University of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Being on campus fun because it reminds me how moldible

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Speaker 1: so many of those young minds are. And maybe you

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Speaker 4: Out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay

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Speaker 4: and Buck podcast a U owed every Sunday. Find it

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Speaker 4: on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're joined by our buddy,

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Speaker 2: all seven feet of him, Jesse Kelly, who is the

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Speaker 2: author of The Anti Communist Manifesto, which is out in

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Speaker 2: paperback this week. I've got my copy here on the shelf.

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Speaker 2: I've got a hard hardcover because you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: keep it for a long time. Jesse, congrats on all

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Speaker 2: the success of the book. How are the communists feeling

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Speaker 2: these days? It must be a rough, a rough few

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Speaker 2: weeks for them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what we're seeing is an attack on the foundation

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Speaker 6: that they've built. That's that's the only reason Democrats have

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Speaker 6: been able to achieve so much power in this country

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Speaker 6: is they've figured out a way to have the taxpayer

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Speaker 6: fund all their activism. And we're finding all this out now.

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Speaker 6: But that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 6: Communism is not popular now. It never was popular. It

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Speaker 6: wasn't popular in the Soviet Union. It's it's it will

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Speaker 6: never be popular. It's a demonic religion of force that

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Speaker 6: makes people do things they don't want to do, so

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Speaker 6: you have to fight other ways. If you're a dirty commie,

533
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Speaker 6: you lie, you lie, and you find ways to force

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Speaker 6: and worm your way into things. So you take over

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Speaker 6: the federal government and have all of us go to

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Speaker 6: work every day to fund tranny surgeries in Guatemala.

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Speaker 1: I'm just immediately picturing who's given tranny surgeries in Guatemala

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Speaker 1: and thinking that that does not sound like a n if.

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Speaker 1: I want to go under it anytime soon, Jesse, I

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Speaker 1: want to go to the serious discussion here. How did

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Speaker 1: the flu impact your hairline? You know, Clay?

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Speaker 6: That was hurtful. What you just said was hurtful there,

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Speaker 6: Because I'll be honest with you, I had a lot

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Speaker 6: of time as I was laying in bed fighting through

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Speaker 6: near death, which of course I did. Most mortal men

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Speaker 6: would not have made it, but I did make it.

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Speaker 6: I came out the other side bigger, stronger, faster. But

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Speaker 6: I did have some time to think about my hair

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Speaker 6: and I had a moment in my one hundred and

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Speaker 6: four fever delirium where actually considered, because everyone like you, Clay,

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Speaker 6: is mean to me about it, I had a moment

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Speaker 6: where I considered do you go you know, like the

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Speaker 6: rogain or something, or do you do you take one

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Speaker 6: of the supplements? You know, my wife's always talking about,

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Speaker 6: well you could take this or take that. And I

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Speaker 6: woke up more defiant than I've ever been. I actually

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Speaker 6: feel like this is exactly how God wants me. Clay,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry you can't accept me for who.

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Speaker 1: I am now it is true. It is true God

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Speaker 1: wants me this way. You can't accept me for who

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Speaker 1: I am is Actually I appreciate you coming out of

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Speaker 1: the closet like this because you've actually made the exact

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Speaker 1: same argument that trans people make when they need surgery.

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Speaker 1: You know, make sure this was just a going full trans.

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Speaker 6: By the way, speaking of all the trans stuff, since

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Speaker 6: this just came up, was it the dumbest setting the

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Speaker 6: centering side, all the weird stuff and all the horrible

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Speaker 6: stuff with kids and women's sports and crap like that?

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Speaker 1: Was it the.

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Speaker 6: Dumbest political move in the history of a American politics

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Speaker 6: for Democrats to embrace such a thing.

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Speaker 1: Again, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 6: For Reside, Yeah, I know, you want to talk about

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Speaker 6: the most narrow approval in the world. If you're a politician.

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Speaker 6: You're supposed to try to find the big things most

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Speaker 6: people agree with you on, and run on those things

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Speaker 6: you found, like the point zero five percent of the

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Speaker 6: population that decided you were going to be their champion,

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Speaker 6: and then told American parents that their daughters should have

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Speaker 6: to go play rugby against these freaks. And Democrats are

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Speaker 6: looking around right now stunned. How did we lose so

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Speaker 6: much power? Gee?

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Speaker 2: I don't know you know, Jesse. We're speaking of Jesse

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Speaker 2: Kelly Anti Communist Manifesto. His book comes out in paperback

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Speaker 2: this week. Make sure you get yourself a copy of it.

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Speaker 6: Jesse.

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Speaker 2: The Pentagon might be getting a visit from Doge real soon.

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Speaker 2: Pete Heseth, our friend and the Secretary of Defense, has

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Speaker 2: said he welcomes this. He is going to give them

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Speaker 2: everything that they need and is looking forward to finding

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Speaker 2: what's when they kick over that rock. In terms of

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Speaker 2: the spending, what do you expect you're a former marine,

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Speaker 2: what do you think they're gonna find?

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Speaker 1: Buck?

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Speaker 6: I will tell you this. I'm not trying to be melodramatic.

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Speaker 6: I actually had a thought this morning that we all

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Speaker 6: need to keep elon musk. Pete hag Seth, the Trump administration,

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Speaker 6: Trump himself. Of course, we all need to keep them

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Speaker 6: in our prayers because the truth is, we have a

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Speaker 6: really scary combination right now of some very very powerful

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Speaker 6: people who happen to be very very evil.

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Speaker 1: People are very very.

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Speaker 6: Afraid right now of what has taking place inside the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration because they're, like I said, those people, powerful

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Speaker 6: evil people are frightened as all the stones get unturned.

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Speaker 6: And I tried to tell people, you brought up the Pentagon.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling people us eight is just a tip. It's

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Speaker 6: this is just a tip the Pentagon. What they're going

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Speaker 6: to find in there. You look, fuck you know your CIA.

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Speaker 6: You know the things they're going to find, the waste,

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Speaker 6: the fraud, the abuse, the flat out and naked corruption.

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Speaker 6: It's going to stay or people, because what we've had

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Speaker 6: is this unaccountable system for years and years and years

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Speaker 6: in this country where that trillions of taxpayer money gets

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Speaker 6: thrown into that Pentagon black hole. And of course anytime

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Speaker 6: anyone's ever tried to look into it, you know, they

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Speaker 6: fail every audit. Anytime anyone looks into it, they cover

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Speaker 6: themselves in the red, white and blue and try to

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Speaker 6: acute you hate the military, and these ridiculous claims, but

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Speaker 6: those are claims that get politicians to back off. And

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Speaker 6: so now that we have people who are really going

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Speaker 6: to look into it, just gird your loins, everybody, because

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Speaker 6: it's going to be hard to see. Like this USAID

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Speaker 6: stuff that we're finding out, the trainee surgeries and Guatemala

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Speaker 6: stuff like that's hard to see that that's easy.

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Speaker 1: This is the warm up.

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Speaker 6: Compared to what we're going to find in the Pentagon,

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Speaker 6: It'll be ugly.

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Speaker 1: Brother Jesse, I think you hit on something that's important

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Speaker 1: that we've hammered here to a large extent. Leave aside politics.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tulca Gabbard and RFK Junior are about to get,

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Speaker 1: you know, confirmed they were Democrats told six minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: We know that there are a lot lot of people,

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Speaker 1: frankly out there who have ended up voting for Trump,

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Speaker 1: and I think to a large extent, it's because Democrats

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Speaker 1: have embraced ideas that are just thoroughly nonsensical. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: men being able to win women's championships. How about lining

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Speaker 1: up against the idea of having the most successful business

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Speaker 1: person in any of our lives examine the federal books

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Speaker 1: to try to save all taxpayers money some of the

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Speaker 1: things that they are lining up in favor of and opposing.

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Speaker 1: I just, I mean, regardless of whether you're a political

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Speaker 1: person or not. Eliminating fraud and wasteful government spending is

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Speaker 1: what like a ninety five percent agreement issue. Men in

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Speaker 1: women's sports, not being able to win women's championships is

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Speaker 1: like a ninety ten issue for anybody who covers sports

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Speaker 1: or cares about sports. It's not just that Trump is

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Speaker 1: doing rational, common sense things. It's that it feels like

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is just running right off the edge

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Speaker 1: of a cliff and destroying themselves on the rocks below.

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Speaker 1: It's utterly nonsensical.

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Speaker 6: It is Clay, And I was thinking about this, and

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Speaker 6: I so I have this theory, and you too can

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Speaker 6: shoot it down, of course, I know you will if

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Speaker 6: you feel like it. But I have a theory that

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden is largely responsible for a lot of what

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Speaker 6: we're seeing now.

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Speaker 1: And this is what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about his weakness, you know, his whatever he had,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, the dementia, senile, whatever it was. When

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Speaker 6: you get elected president like Barack Obama, I consider to

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Speaker 6: be the worst, most evil Solace president this country's ever had.

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Speaker 6: But even he, when he got elected president, understood that

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Speaker 6: as president, in his own self interest, in his own

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Speaker 6: self interest, he had to keep the most bonkers part

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Speaker 6: of the Democrat coalition at bay. Like Barack Obama still

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Speaker 6: called the deporter in chief to this day. Even Barack Obama,

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Speaker 6: who hates America, didn't want to bring in twenty million

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Speaker 6: illegals to rape and murder a bunch of American women

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Speaker 6: because in his own self interest, he knew that that's

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Speaker 6: bad for me. So when when the braying lunatics in

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Speaker 6: the Democrat Party we're telling him stop deporting people as

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Speaker 6: the commander in chief, as the president, he had to

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Speaker 6: be the dad and say, okay, pipe down, kids, no

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Speaker 6: we're deporting people. Don't be nuts, come out. Joe Biden

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Speaker 6: lacked that strength. We all see the cadaver in chief

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Speaker 6: that he was for four years. So for four years

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden sat there with drool running down his chin,

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Speaker 6: and so the government was run by the filthy communist

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Speaker 6: America haters around him with no breaks. What we saw

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Speaker 6: during Joe Biden's presidency was a Democrat presidency with no

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Speaker 6: breaks on it anymore. The president's supposed to be the dad,

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Speaker 6: supposed to be the breaks, and they simply handed the

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Speaker 6: party over to the nutballs, and now they run it all.

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Speaker 6: We're watching the results of Joe Biden not be able

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Speaker 6: to mend or tend the fence and keep the herd

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Speaker 6: in check for four years, a Democrat party running wild. Now,

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Speaker 6: Jasmine Crockett's the voice of it. I can't get enough Jesse.

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Speaker 2: You know, for twenty some odd years now, which coincides

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Speaker 2: with yours and my adult lives, Clay's got a few

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Speaker 2: decades on us.

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Speaker 1: But for twenty.

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Speaker 2: People years or so, uh, you know, we've been we've

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Speaker 2: been looking at a Democrat party that has either had

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Speaker 2: you know, somebody in office as president or a handful

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Speaker 2: of people that we knew were next in line for

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Speaker 2: that that Democrat uh you know, the Democrat nomination. And

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Speaker 2: we're the leaders of the Democrat Party. It's been Clinton, Obama,

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Speaker 2: you know, Biden, believe it or not, or the people

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Speaker 2: around him. Right, we've all known this right now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Clay just read off who the top Democrat picks are.

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Speaker 2: I understand, like, how could you be thinking about an election?

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Speaker 2: But it's more about who the Democrat center you know

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Speaker 2: who the sort of main figurehead will be now and

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Speaker 2: going forward in the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Who is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it can't be Chuck Schumer kind of just

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Speaker 2: waving his bony fist around and shouting on stage, or like,

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Speaker 2: who is it?

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Speaker 6: I think it's gotta be and I know you're gonna

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Speaker 6: scream at me. I think it has to be Gretchen Whitmer,

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Speaker 6: and frankly, I think it's their only option. If Josh

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Speaker 6: Shapiro weren't Jewish, I would say it would be obviously

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Speaker 6: Josh Shapiro, but the Democrats went full jew hate too.

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Speaker 6: They've just they couldn't hold back the Hamas lovers in

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Speaker 6: their party either. So, gret you have to win Michigan, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 6: in Wisconsin and they have completely sideloed themselves into being

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Speaker 6: this coastal elite party where they only speak to the

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Speaker 6: insane LGBTQ mob on Berkeley's campus and they don't ever

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Speaker 6: speak to just normal Americans. In Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

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Speaker 6: You have to have those states to win the presidency.

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Speaker 6: Now that Florida's blood red courtesy of Rondo Santus, so

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Speaker 6: you have to have those states well, Josh Shapiro would

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Speaker 6: be the no brainer, A relatively popular governor in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: He should have been the VP choice of Dome. But

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Speaker 6: of course he's Jewish, and the Democrat base went full

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Speaker 6: ape against Jews, and I'll kill all the Jews and

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Speaker 6: all that crazy crap they're shouting. So I think it's

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Speaker 6: Gretchen Whitmer or bust. I think Gavin Newsom has a

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Speaker 6: real problem on his hands with this wildfire stuff, all

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Speaker 6: kinds of bad optics out there. If there's someone else,

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Speaker 6: I'm all ears. I don't know who. I don't know

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Speaker 6: who else it could be, but Gretchen Whitmer.

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Speaker 1: So I don't disagree. I mean, I said, if they

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Speaker 1: had been super rational, they would have gone with a

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Speaker 1: Whitmer Shapiro ticket and just gone all in on we

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Speaker 1: have to win the Midwest, and maybe that would have

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Speaker 1: got him dragged over the finish line. But here's my

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Speaker 1: take on this, Jesse. I think you're seeing I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've paid a little bit of attention to it. Steven A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN commentator, is saying now he might run for president.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump is going to unleash a ton of

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Speaker 1: wealthy dudes, maybe some women as well, who just look

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Speaker 1: at this roster of incompetent politicians and try to throw

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Speaker 1: their hat in the ring too. And so it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: shock me if we got a total outsider Democrat nominee,

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Speaker 1: somebody who's not holding office right now, crazy town or

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Speaker 1: you think that's also possible.

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Speaker 6: No, honestly, if Clay, I think that's probably brilliant. I

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Speaker 6: think that's probably the way they have to go. But

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Speaker 6: at the same time, that guy, let's call it, let's

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Speaker 6: just pick a name, the Rock always pretends he's going

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Speaker 6: to He's never going to, he's too rich, but let's

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Speaker 6: just call it the Rock. Let's say you're right, the

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Speaker 6: Rock beside, I'm just gonna run his Democrat nominee. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: everyone's excited about that as a Democrat for about five minutes,

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Speaker 6: and then still he walks in and has to face

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Speaker 6: the exact same problem. Joe Biden faced the exact same

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Speaker 6: problem Kamala here faced. What do you do with the

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Speaker 6: deranged lunatics who've taken over your party because you have

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Speaker 6: to be strong enough and popular enough to tell them

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Speaker 6: sit down, shut up. Okay, no, we're not doing the

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Speaker 6: training stuff. Anymore. That's gonna stop. No, please, no more humas, No, no,

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Speaker 6: that's gotta stop. We're gonna be you know, common sense,

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Speaker 6: apew to the working man, because that's the only way

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Speaker 6: to hold together a Democrat coalition that can win the presidency.

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Speaker 6: That's what Clinton did, That's that's what Barack Obama did.

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Speaker 6: To be Frank, you have to be able to hold

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Speaker 6: together a broader coalition than they have, even a rich celebrity.

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Speaker 6: How does he hold that coalition together? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he can, I don't know. But that's they've got

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Speaker 6: at in the climb. They'll come back one day. These

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Speaker 6: pendulums swing back and forth, as you two both know.

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Speaker 6: But I really have a hard time seeing how they

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Speaker 6: do it in two years, four years. I don't know

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Speaker 6: how they do it.

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Speaker 2: Jesse, Why do the folks listening need a copy paperback

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Speaker 2: copy of the Communist Manifesto.

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Speaker 6: The Anti Communist Manifesto? Buck, Actually you should buy both

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Speaker 6: of them so you can so.

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Speaker 1: You can learn your enemy.

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Speaker 6: The Anti Communist Manifesto is easy to read because I'm

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Speaker 6: a moron and I wrote the book, so everybody, even kids,

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Speaker 6: can read it. It's funny and it actually tells you

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Speaker 6: what to do like there are action items in the book.

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Speaker 6: It's not just the normal book of Oh, here's all

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Speaker 6: our problems were totally screwed. There are things that everybody,

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Speaker 6: every single person listening right now, can do. It's available

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Speaker 6: at Jesse kellybook dot com. I came up with that

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Speaker 6: website myself.

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Speaker 2: Well done, creative anti communist manifest to everybody. Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 2: will talk to you soon. Thanks for being here, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Lots of news has been breaking, as it will be

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Speaker 1: happening a lot, and we appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us. Tulca Gabbard confirmed, RFK Junior on track

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Speaker 1: to be confirmed. Trump has talked with both Putin and

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Zolensky and it appears that we are moving towards

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Speaker 1: a potential ceasefire we were scheduled right now to be

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Speaker 1: joined by Secretary of State Marco Rubio. He has now

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Speaker 1: gotten drawn into, as you might well imagine, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the details involved in trying to settle the ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: He now can't come on live. He says he's going

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Speaker 1: let you know he was looking forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: all of you. Obviously, you've had him on a lot

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Speaker 1: over the years, have not had him on since he

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Speaker 1: became Secretary of State. But at the last minute he

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Speaker 1: is going on right now surrounding the Russia Ukraine related details.

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Speaker 1: So he tells us that he is going to join

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Speaker 1: this is going to happen a lot. We had Caroline

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Speaker 1: the way, there's lots of crazy news that drops and

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to reschedule. I think you guys

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Speaker 1: the president on soon again, and he's probably going to

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Speaker 1: be on with us as scheduled, but he also might

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Speaker 1: have something that comes up. This is the difference between

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Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the individual's schedule to talk with us, but you may

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Speaker 1: show is important.

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Speaker 2: We've got millions of listeners, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: respect from the policy community for speaking to all of you.

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Speaker 2: But if the Secretary of State has got to get

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Speaker 2: into imminent negotiations to try to end a war that's

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Speaker 2: been a total carnage scene in Eastern Europe, we get it,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have him when we can have him. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: He's got big things to tackle, no doubt. So he

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Speaker 1: is scheduled. We'll see if we can get it done

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at this exact same time. To come on and

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt has been interacting in the White House with

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Speaker 1: her press briefing. We've got a couple of a couple

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Speaker 1: of takes just to update you on exactly what she

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Speaker 1: is saying. This is talking about Doge and transparency Cut

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Speaker 1: twenty eight.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a real fallacy that there's this alleged

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Speaker 7: lack of transparency when it comes to DOGE. President Trump

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Speaker 7: and Elon Musk have been incredibly transparent on what DOGE

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Speaker 7: is doing. There is an x account with the DOGE handle.

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Speaker 7: They are tweeting out what they are doing on a

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Speaker 7: daily basis.

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Speaker 1: They have a website.

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Speaker 7: Where they are posting the receipts of the contracts that

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Speaker 7: they are reviewing and the payments that they have stopped

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Speaker 7: from going out the door. The secretaries of our departments

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Speaker 7: have stopped from going out the door. And I would

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Speaker 7: also say that before it was Elon Musk making our

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Speaker 7: government efficient and accountable, it was some unnamed bureaucrat that

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Speaker 7: none of you knew.

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.

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Speaker 7: He's also now one of the most highly scrutinized men

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Speaker 7: in the world alongside President Trump because of what he's

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Speaker 7: doing and the axis that he is allowing. So there's

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Speaker 7: great transparency.

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Speaker 1: Okay, My question for you, Buck would be this, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to play another cut or two from the

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Speaker 1: press conference. Other than believing that the government needs to

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Speaker 1: be better and more efficiently run. What does Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: gain from all of this? I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a question worth asking. And when you're already the richest

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Speaker 1: man in the world, I don't know that I buy

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Speaker 1: the argument. Oh Elon Musk is in on this for himself.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me like he just wants America to

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Speaker 1: be as efficiently run as possible because he thinks a

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Speaker 1: strong America makes it more likely. I'm telling you what

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Speaker 1: I think his motivations are for Mars to become a

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Speaker 1: multi planet, to a satellite outpost of the United States

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Speaker 1: and of the world and protect us from the whole

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Speaker 1: civilization being wiped out. I mean, this is just a

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Speaker 1: question from you. Are you concerned because the new line

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Speaker 1: of attack is, oh, Elon Musk has so much power,

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Speaker 1: there's conflicts, He's in it for himself. They're not being transparent. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I'm astounded that Elon mu would want to take this on.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think it's evidence of Musk's over arching

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Speaker 1: ambition for humanity more so than it is some personal

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Speaker 1: like how much more money can he need when you're

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Speaker 1: already the richest man in the world.

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Speaker 2: This is why the complaints that some in the Democrat

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Speaker 2: media and Democrat politicians are leveling like he is he

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Speaker 2: has access to your personal information. Where can I place

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Speaker 2: bets that Elon Musk isn't going to steal someone's social

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Speaker 2: so he can set up like a credit card in

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Speaker 2: their name. I mean, what are they even talking about?

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Speaker 2: The government already has this information you're so worried about

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Speaker 2: you think some bureaucrat is going to treat it as

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Speaker 2: sacro sank. First of all, we know that they leaked

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's tax returns, but that's totally so.

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Speaker 1: And that's but after buck, I think this is important.

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Speaker 1: After spending years telling you that what was in his

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Speaker 1: tax returns would make him unelectable page New York Times,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares. It's not that extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: But a bureaucrat did leave total and I think actually

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Speaker 2: ended up going to getting a prison sentence for it.

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Speaker 2: So the notion that Elon Musk is in any way

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Speaker 2: a risk to your privacy or identity in that it's

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Speaker 2: just crazy. I mean, this is government data that the

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Speaker 2: government already has it. He has no interest. I mean

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Speaker 2: think about this, you know, and think about Google and Facebook,

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Speaker 2: these companies that have so much of your personal information

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Speaker 2: that they're not really actually fascinated with you as an individual,

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Speaker 2: And Elon Musk is not fascinated with any individual. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to stop what should be a universally lauded, a

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Speaker 2: universally praised effort of stopping payment from going to people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he explained this Yesterdy in the Oval Office.

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Speaker 2: There are payments from the Treasury going to people who

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Speaker 2: are on a do not pay list. Now that do

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Speaker 2: not pay list exists so that that won't happen, but

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Speaker 2: the money's still going to them. Does anyone want to

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Speaker 2: argue that that money should still go to them? It

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Speaker 2: seems like the for the Democrats, the answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: And instead of the embarrassment that people who favor the

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Speaker 2: system so much should have over what the system is doing,

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Speaker 2: they double and triple down with this nonsense and act

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Speaker 2: like the way the system operates is perfect. Anybody who

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Speaker 2: has any problem with what's going on has bad intentions.

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Speaker 2: I just think this Elon factor in Trump's administration is

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Speaker 2: like a dream come true for anybody who is limited government,

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Speaker 2: believes in accountability, you know, wants to see the spending

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Speaker 2: get under control. This is what we need We need

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Speaker 2: some form of shock therapy. We need somebody who makes

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Speaker 2: rockets and then catches them as they land.

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Speaker 1: We don't need.

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Speaker 8: A bureaucrat who spent twenty years looking at the Ledger

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Speaker 8: because they've led us to where we are right now.

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Speaker 8: I just want to reiterate, because nobody else saying it.

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Speaker 8: Elon voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. The media

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Speaker 8: now wants to convince you that Elon Musk is some

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Speaker 8: sort of far right wing ideologue. He only voted for

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Speaker 8: Trump for the first time in twenty twenty four. This

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Speaker 8: idea that Elon has been some dark and sinister right.

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Speaker 8: He didn't endorse Trump buck until right after the assassination

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Speaker 8: attempt in July. He wasn't even a Trump guy until

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Speaker 8: July of twenty twenty four. He has supported Trump now

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Speaker 8: publicly for seven months of his entire life. I do

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Speaker 8: think this is worth like kind of reiterating. If anything,

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Speaker 8: what this speaks to is Trump's willingness to bring in

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Speaker 8: people that he thinks have supreme talent to try to

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Speaker 8: make America great again.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I actually think this is Trump's superpower, is that he's

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Speaker 1: willing to bring in Evon Musk and give him the

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Speaker 1: keys to make a difference because he sees his talents,

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Speaker 1: even though Elon in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty actually

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Speaker 1: voted against Trump.

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Speaker 2: Look, Tim Cook is a Democrat, right, CEO of Apple.

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Speaker 2: I think it's well known he's a Democrat. And if

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Speaker 2: you had had a Demo, if you had had a

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Speaker 2: Democrat administration come in and say we're going to have

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Speaker 2: Tim Cook look at like the security of government devices

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Speaker 2: and encryption for important government systems, I would say, oh,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. I mean he's somebody who understands and

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Speaker 2: has high level access to the highest level access to

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Speaker 2: those kinds of systems and is doing it incredibly successfully

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Speaker 2: on a global scale for a trillion dollar company. That's Elon.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a Republican and not a Democrat in office, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is if you were to switch Elon

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Speaker 2: out with a handful of people who, quite honestly I

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Speaker 2: don't think are as impressive or skilled as Elon is,

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Speaker 2: but they're in that same category, I'd say, Wow, Democrats

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00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: are actually doing something that makes sense here.

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Speaker 1: This is what we need.

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Speaker 2: We need somebody with true domain expertise, isn't it fascinating.

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Speaker 6: Clay, You got these.

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Speaker 2: People that are all, oh, but why why are we

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Speaker 2: putting forward Cash for I mean, Cash was like a

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Speaker 2: federal prosecutor for many, many years, and he's done all

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Speaker 2: kinds of things that prepare him for the FBI. But

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Speaker 2: they question the qualifications of some of Trump's nominees for

1004
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: cabinet positions, I think unfairly, but they do. And then

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Speaker 2: you bring in somebody to do doge, who is arguably

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Speaker 2: the most qualified person on the planet, the most impressive

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Speaker 2: and qualified person on the planet, and you know what

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Speaker 2: they're doing. They're arguing over process issues and they're just

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Speaker 2: whining about it. They're complaining because they can't make an argument.

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Speaker 1: I'll even take it a step further, like he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have done it because he was the worst president in

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Speaker 1: our lives. But if Joe Biden had brought in Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk and said, hey, federal spending got out of control

1014
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Speaker 1: during COVID, I think we've wasted a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: The most brilliant minds in American capitalism to be looking

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Speaker 1: at how we spend money and making sure that we're

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Speaker 1: not wasting taxpayer funds. I would have said, yeah, that

1018
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Speaker 1: makes sense, right, I mean, Biden made awful decisions across

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Speaker 1: the board. But my point on that is Elon voted

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Speaker 1: for Biden. In theory, Joe Biden could have had a

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Speaker 1: good relationship with Elon Musk and used his talents to

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Speaker 1: try to make the American government better than it otherwise

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Speaker 1: would have been. To me, Tulsea Gabbert getting confirmed Rfk

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Speaker 1: Junior about to get confirmed Elon Musk. This is evidence

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Speaker 1: of a remade Republican Party and a profoundly new big

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Speaker 1: tent that is focused on common sense, logical results. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why Trump's approval ratings buck are the

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Speaker 1: highest level of his political career. I mean, you look,

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Speaker 1: Mark Fogel, is there anybody opposed to getting Americans who

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00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: are charged abundantly more so than they otherwise would be

1031
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: by foreign countries back? Trump got what six people back

1032
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Speaker 1: from Venezuela, just announced the new American hostage from Belarus

1033
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Speaker 1: is being returned. Mark Foegel kissing the ground when he

1034
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: got back. Most of what Trump is doing, I would argue,

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Speaker 1: is just hyper rational, logical, not even particularly partisan, smart

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Speaker 1: decisions that the president should be making.

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Speaker 2: It's fiscal sanity and rule of law. It's let's look

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Speaker 2: at what we're spending money on. Are we spending money

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Speaker 2: on smart things? And should people that commit crimes who

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Speaker 2: are not even supposed to be in this country still

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Speaker 2: be in the country even though we all agree it

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Speaker 2: is absolutely illegal for them to be in the country.

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Speaker 1: They're in violation of law. These are very straightforward things,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: This is not like hyper partisan, hyper ideological stuff, although

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Speaker 2: it is the Democrats because they're insane. That's the problem

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Speaker 2: with being totally nuts. When you're totally nuts, you can't

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Speaker 2: see things straight. So you know, they should probably get

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Speaker 2: it together. Clay just saying, after more than a year

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