1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day baq At podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: It's Monday, the tenth of November. I'm Caroline Hetkut in London. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, Democrats and 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the US Senate break with their party to support a 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: deal to reopen the government. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: BBC bosses resign over allegations that broadcasts and misled viewers 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: by editing remarks by US President Donald Trump. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Plus, we take a look inside Peel Hunt's fight to 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: stay independent amid a wave of city consolidation. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Let's start with the roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: The record breaking US government shutdown appears to be nearing 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: an end after moderate Democrats and the Senate broke with 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: party leaders to back a deal with Republicans. The agreement 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: would fully fund some government departments for the next year, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: with funding for others set to lapse at the end 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: of January. It also restores pay for furloughed workers, zooms 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: withheld payments, andrew calls laid off federal employees. The shutdown 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: is costing the US economy and estimated fifteen billion dollars 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: a week, while grounding flights and halting the release of 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: key government economic data. Democratic Senator Katherine Cortez explains why 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: she broke with the party to support the motion. 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: The vote tonight was crucial to open the government because 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: too many Americans, hardworking individuals, seniors' children were suffering. 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Catherine Cortez speaking there. With the bill still requiring approval 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: from the House before it can be sent to President 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: Trump for his signature. Over passages not guaranteed, Democratic leaders 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: have voiced opposition to any deal that does not include 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: an extension of expiring Obamacare subsidies, which this bill does 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: not do. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Now, the Director General of the BBC Tim Davey and 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: News chief Deborah Turness are resigning of allegations the broadcast 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: and misled viewers by editing by US President Donald Trump 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: in a Panorama documentary last year. The two senior executives 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: announced their departures ahead of an expected apology from the organization. Today, 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: the Shadow Culture Secretary Nigel Huddleston says big changes need 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: to be made. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: They've offended the US President, They've reprimanded a journalist for 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 4: correcting on biology. You know, there's just so many examples 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: of there being biased, but also there's clear political bias here. 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: As well, Nigel Hudderson speaking there. The controversy comes ahead 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: of critical funding talks with the government and follows a 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: turbulent year for the BBC, which has been criticized for 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: its coverage and neutrality. In a post on his Truth 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: social platform, Trump called the individuals resigning quote dishonest people 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: and accused them of trying to influence a US presidential election. 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: In his resignation letter, Davey said he hoped there could 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: be a quote sensible, calm and rational public conversation about 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: the next chapter for the BBC. 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: More than a quarter of large UK businesses expect to 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: cut jobs within the next year due to the impact 52 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence. That's according to a CIPD survey of 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: more than two thousand employers showing sixty two percent of 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: them believe junior, managerial or administrative roles are likely to 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: be last due to AI. 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: Blouebrooks. 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Freddie Folston has. 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 6: More hiring freezes, weaker employer confidence and uncertainty ahead of 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: this month's budget, and now a labor market survey to 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: add to the Chancellor's workforce woes. Data from the CIPD 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 6: shows the risk of AI to young people and white 62 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: collar workers is particularly acute. Twenty six percent of large 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 6: private sector firms expect to shrink their workforce in the 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 6: next twelve months. That's compared to twenty percent in the 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 6: public sector. One of the cipd's senior economists said that 66 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 6: while AI held great potential for improving productivity, it also 67 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 6: risks leaving many people behind. In London, freddie Fulston Bloomberg Radio. 68 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: Now on the markets as investors grapple with concerns about 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: an AI bubble. Many are increasingly chasing the rally but 70 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: ensuring against the drop options. Volatility looks to be headed 71 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: high regardless of the direction of the S and P 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: five hundred index. Last week, AI related US textocks lost 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: more than a trillion dollars in market value as tradeos 74 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: were seen taking bets off the VIX index falling. It 75 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: came as hedge fund boss Michael Barry disclosed bearish put 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: options on Nvidia and Polante after warning of market exuberance. 77 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: The UK is providing staff and equipment to help Belgium 78 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: counter drone incursions near airports and military bases. Britain's Chief 79 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: of the Defense Staff Richard Knighton tell the BBC that 80 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: equipment and personnel are now now on the way. 81 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 7: I spect to why Belgian opposite number in the week, 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 7: and he asked if we would be prepared to support them, 83 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 7: and the Defense Section I agreed at the end of 84 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 7: last week that we would deploy our people and our 85 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 7: equipment to Belgium to help them. It is important to 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 7: be clear though that we don't know and the Belgians 87 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 7: don't yet know the source of that those drones, and 88 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 7: but we will help them by providing our kit and capability, 89 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 7: which has already started to deploy to help to Belgium. 90 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Britain the Chief of the Defense Staff, Richard Niden, speaking 91 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: to the BBC after airports in Belgium were forced to 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: suspend flights last week when unidentified drones were spotted in 93 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: its airspace. It follows a series of suspected Russian droll 94 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: incursions over several EU countries that have disrupted our travel. 95 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: Now, the odds of extreme cold this winter in the US, 96 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: Asia and parts of Europe are climbing. That's raising concerns 97 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: about energy costs and economic strain across the region. Kegsbyhol 98 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Kubala has more on what this means for Europe. 99 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 8: Europe's mild winter could be interrupted by frequent cold pells 100 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 8: in the coming months. For casters say the polar vortex, 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 8: the belt of winds around the Arctic, could weaken and 102 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 8: let frigid air spill south across the continent at deep 103 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 8: freeze would likely push up gas prices and pose a 104 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 8: risk to winter wheat crops. Experts say northern and central 105 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 8: Europe are most at risk, but climate warming may compete 106 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 8: with the worst of the chill in Brussels. 107 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: Michel Kubala Bloomberg Radio. 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Those are your top stories on the markets. The Mscirish 109 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Pacific Index up one percent. Wall Street futures have jumped 110 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: on the news of progress in the US government shutdown. 111 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: NAZAC features now one point three percent higher, SMP minez 112 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: are up by eight tens. Eurostocks fifty features also getting 113 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: a boost, up by one point five percent. For two 114 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: one hundred features are nine tents higher this morning. The 115 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: ten year treasury yield four basis points higher at four 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: point one four percent. 117 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: Now those are the markets in a moment, will bring 118 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: you more on the US government down, plus why London's 119 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: last big independent broker may be becoming a takeover target itself. 120 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: But before we get to that, another story has got 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: our attention this morning. 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 5: Supercars. 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Hannah Elliott has been writing about how exotic cars 124 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: are sort of very popular, and especially amongst an unusual cohort. 125 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: You might not think it, young supercar collectors are driving 126 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: their expensive vehicles rather than just keeping them stalled. 127 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, Look, these are obviously major pieces of investment, 128 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and the maintenance because of the nature of them, can 129 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: be pretty hefty as well. But I did find it 130 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of these younger owners as well 131 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: are much more keen to drive the cars and get 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: them out in the road. They're not as worried about, 133 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, whatever might happen if you actually take the 134 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: car out and use it. 135 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean if you can see out of the window. 136 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: I have seen supercars around London, you know, literally outside 137 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: of Tesco, which I think is very funny given how 138 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: fast they can drive. But no, I thought this story 139 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: about the gathering in Las Vegas on the first of 140 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: November with all of these car owners. Apparently there was 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: one point one billion dollars worth of vehicles outside of 142 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: the win Las Vegas only a few days ago. So yeah, 143 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: Supercars has got. 144 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: A bit of a far away to go, I think 145 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: before you're going to get it. You know, a billion 146 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: gord dollars worth of cars outside the Tasco on Candish Town. 147 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So that's one of the stories that we've been 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: thinking about. Yes, Supercars in Focus. We'll put a link 149 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: to that story in our show notes. 150 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: Let's bring it the latest though on what's happening with 151 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: the US government shut down. The Senate taking a step 152 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: towards reopening the government after a group of Democrats broke 153 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: with their leadership and voted for a deal put forward 154 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: by the Republicans. Our chief Aga carspondent Roslyn Maths and 155 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: has been following the story for us, and she joins 156 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: us now was good to talk to you. How much 157 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: closer does an end to the shutdown look than this morning? 158 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 9: Well, it does seem we are actually getting closer. You 159 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 9: can see that expectation reflected in the financial markets today. 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 9: A group of moderate Democrats who have now decided to 161 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 9: break ranks and back the deal to end the shutdown, 162 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 9: and the Senate in fact has voted sixty forty on 163 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 9: a procedural measure to advance the bill and has now 164 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 9: adjourned until Monday, so we don't know exactly when there 165 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 9: would be a vote in. 166 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 5: The Senate for final passage. 167 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 9: We also don't know when it might go to the House, 168 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 9: and that's obviously much less certain. But this deal would 169 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 9: essentially pass full year funding for some departments, including Congress 170 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 9: itself and others through January thirteen. It would pay those 171 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 9: furloughed workers. It would resume federal payments to states, and 172 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 9: that's a key one there for aid. So you know, 173 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 9: there are some steps to be walked here, but we 174 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 9: do seem to be getting into the billpart. 175 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: The question is how quickly might we see this come through? 176 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: I mean, any one senator can. 177 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 9: Force days of procedural delays in the Senate alone, let 178 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 9: alone getting to the House. And there are some questions 179 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 9: around the Democratic level of support. Excuse me, but you 180 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 9: know this does seem to be at least a major 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 9: step forward. 182 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, what are the chances of the 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: deal actually being passed in the House. 184 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 9: Well, Speaker Mike Johnson has given House law makers thirty 185 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 9: six hours notice to get back to Washington, but it's 186 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 9: certainly not guaranteed even when they're there. The big issue 187 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 9: in the House is over the extension or the desire 188 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 9: by the Democrats to extend Obamacare subsidies. They've spoken about 189 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 9: this being an important part, but it's not in this 190 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 9: current bill, and it falls short really of their goals 191 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 9: on their front, that extension of these expiring Obamacare premium subsidies. 192 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 5: And so are all. 193 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 9: Democrats going to be on board highly unlikely in both 194 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 9: the Senate but also most importantly in the House. Do 195 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 9: we see those signs of discord within Democratic ranks and 196 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 9: do enough Republicans remain uneasy about where Obamacare stands to 197 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 9: also be concerned about the bill. So certainly it's going 198 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 9: to have less of a secure passage to the House. 199 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: If this is the end of the shutdown, as you say, 200 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: there's quite a few hurdles to get over before then 201 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, does it mean that the Democrats 202 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: capitulated to the Republicans. How does it play out from 203 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: party a party line point of view? 204 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 9: Well, certainly it shows yes, Republicans can peel Democrats away. 205 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 9: And you know, really one of the key things, of 206 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 9: course is that you know, the Democrats came into this thing, 207 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 9: saying that their line in the sand, in a way 208 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 9: was Obamacare and these subsidies. I wanted to show a 209 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 9: strong line on that. They wanted to show a firm 210 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 9: line on negotiating in general with Republicans in Washington, and 211 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 9: you know, they've not necessarily been as successful on that front. 212 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 9: There is the promise of a future vote on those 213 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 9: healthcare tax credits. That's part of the deal, the promise 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 9: of it, but it's not in the deal itself, and 215 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 9: obviously that's a win potentially for Republicans. However, the question 216 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 9: is who gets the blame coming out the other side, 217 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 9: and polling shows that it's more Republicans so far than Democrats. 218 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: And we are not that. 219 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 9: Far away from the midterms, where you can imagine the 220 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 9: Democrats are going to make everything about healthcare. The midterms 221 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 9: very much a healthcare vote, and Obamacare health coverage is popular, 222 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 9: and so for the Republicans there'll be some questions there 223 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 9: also if they get blamed if health premiums go up. 224 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 9: In terms of this particular fight in Washington, it does 225 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 9: seem the Republicans have gotten the upper hand and questions 226 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 9: for the Democrats, and in all of it but what 227 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,239 Speaker 9: will really matter, of course, is what voters think come midterms. 228 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and how much pressure may be. Also the 229 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: flight cancelations around Thanksgiving that still a couple of weeks 230 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: away would have had ross. Thanks for being with us, 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: our chief Asia correspondent was there, Matheson. Stay with us. 232 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 2: More from Bloomberg daybaqube coming up after this. 233 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Now to a shake up that's been happening in the 234 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: city of London and the shrinking number of corporate brokerages. 235 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: Most of London's brokers have been taken out, making Peel 236 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Hunt the last big independent name and a potential takeover target. 237 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Our asset management reporter Leo Knscherper joins us now for more. Leo, 238 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: first of all, remind us of the role that brokers 239 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: play in deals and tell us what's been happening in 240 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: the sector over the past few years. 241 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 10: Thank you, Good morning, Stephen. So, first of all, let 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 10: me say that this is a very British thing. Corporate 243 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 10: broking is nothing quite like it in other major financial markets. 244 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 10: Corporate brokers act as day to day advisors to listed companies, 245 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 10: and they also talk to a lot of the company's 246 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 10: current and potential investors. And pretty much all of the 247 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 10: major Wall Street banks have a corporate broking business here 248 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 10: here in the UK, and there have also been many 249 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 10: smaller firms that cater to the mid and smaller end 250 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 10: of the market. And it's really important to point out 251 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 10: every company listed on the London Stock Exchange has to 252 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 10: appoint a corporate broker and they typically you know, these 253 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 10: companies typically only pay corporate brokers a relatively small amount 254 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 10: as a retainer. But there's of course a big incentive 255 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 10: for the investment banks to act as corporate brokers because 256 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 10: when their client makes a big acquisition or you know, 257 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 10: spins out a unit, they are typically the go to 258 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 10: advisors and collect pretty handsome fees and another big revenue stream, 259 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 10: coming to the second part of your question, another big 260 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 10: revenue stream for corporate brokers are of course I pos 261 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 10: and as we all know, there haven't been very many 262 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 10: of these lately in the UK, so times have been 263 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 10: pretty tough for the past four years, almost no bonuses, 264 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 10: job cuts, but still a lot of work on pitches 265 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 10: of course. 266 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: So then how has peel Hunt fared and why is 267 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: it being considered as a potential take of a target now? 268 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 10: Yes, so Peel Hunt has suffered three years of back 269 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 10: to back losses and you know, they don't stand out 270 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 10: in that regard. Many other players have had similar results. 271 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 10: But they still made pretty some decent revenue from MNA activity, 272 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 10: which has been pretty rampant in the UK MidCap space. 273 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 10: The only problem with that is that Peel Hunt's clients 274 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 10: are on the receiving end of most takeover approaches, so 275 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 10: you know, they collect fees from advising on successful transactions, 276 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 10: but they're also losing clients. And this, you know, this 277 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 10: broader downturn in UK equity markets has triggered a wave 278 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 10: of consolidation of takeovers in the sector. Deutsche Bank has 279 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 10: acquired Numis in twenty twenty three. Numis used to be 280 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 10: the go to advisor to MidCap UK PLC basically, and 281 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 10: another prominent example is the merger of Pama Gordon, the 282 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 10: old city firm. I think David Cameron's father and grandfather 283 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 10: both worked for it, and Liberum, which is another MidCap 284 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 10: corporate broker. So the landscape has been redrawn and in 285 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 10: our story today, we've got a chart that shows that 286 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 10: only major Wall Street banks think JP Morgan, cousin of 287 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 10: Wargan Stanley these guys have either more or larger clients 288 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 10: than Peel Hunt. So it's fair to say that peel 289 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 10: Hunt are the last big standalone player in UK corporate broking, 290 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 10: and many compare its position to numerous before was taken 291 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 10: over by Deutsche Bank. 292 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 293 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 294 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 295 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 296 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 297 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 298 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 299 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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