1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two of the Bust and Spring Football 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Tour South Carolina game Cocks. We got hey, coach, Coach 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Beamer with us before we get rolling. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: We are going to warring you v the Chevy EV. Yes, sir, 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: all right. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Chevrolet is a trusted company that has been innovating for 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: the last one hundred years. Up till now, most electric 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: vehicles have been either too expensive, too small, and too 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: limited capabilities for most people. Chevrolet is committed to making 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: EV's available for all Americans. 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I obviously 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 5: started finding out more and more about you guys last season, 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 5: know about you guys as players, but then found out 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 5: about the show throughout the season last year and just 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 5: when you guys were determining whether or not you were 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: gonna come here and all that. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: I guess last fall. 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the social media on slot to get you 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 5: guys here. 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: I remember thinking like, who the heck are these guys? 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: What is this show? And it speaks for itself? 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina? Super accommodating, like that was a fun time. 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Like JP, he's a massive fan. He went here, so 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: he was stoked to come and said he had a 34 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: plug and it was like, you know, we went to 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: like I went to Nebraska, he went to Michigan. So 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: those are obviously easy to go to. Tennessee's in the backyard. 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: So they were like very accommodating. So we were kind 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: of nervous, like getting outside of the box and coming 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: out here. 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: But you guys first fucking class, bro. 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: You guys are always welcome here, so we got to 43 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 5: get you back here more often. 44 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: We are going to hold you to that. 45 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: Sir. 46 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: You talked about social media a little bit, and we 47 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: as Juice and Spencer. 48 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Are you already already saying who our sources are? 49 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: We had two players we were talking to earlier in 50 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: the poetic allegedly, we were like, what should we talk 51 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: to coach about and they said something about your social 52 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: media presence, like you tweet like ten times a day. 53 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that much, but you went 54 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: pretty viral. It went pretty viral with the whole mic challenge. 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: Yep, did it all? How has it been You've been. 56 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: In the game for a long time, the development of NIL, 57 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: the transfer portal, and knowing inevitably that you have to 58 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: have some sort of presence on social media to get 59 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: these big name guys there, Like, how have you had 60 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: to probably change your mindset a little bit? 61 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you have. 62 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: It's totally different, especially in a place coming in South Carolina. 63 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: When I got hired two years ago, there wasn't a 64 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: lot of energy and excitement about South Carolina football, and 65 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 5: it wasn't just all of a sudden going to market itself, 66 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: like we had to as a program get out there 67 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 5: about what we're about. So that's what a lot of 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: it was. And me as a head coach, like I'm 69 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 5: gonna be me. I think sometimes see a lot of 70 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: head coaches all of a sudden they feel like, well, 71 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 5: I got to act a certain way because now I'm 72 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: a head coach in the SEC. Yeah, Big twelve, whatever 73 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: it might be, Like, I'm gonna be me whether you 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: like it or not. And I really have just tried 75 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: to maintain the same activity on social media that I 76 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 5: had as an assistant. And it's different nowadays because of 77 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 5: Nil and everything. 78 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: But you've certainly got to be able to market your program. 79 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: The players can market themselves now in a lot of 80 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: ways as well, and that's a that's a big part 81 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: of it. But you know, most of the stuff that 82 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 5: I do on social media is connect with the fans, 83 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 5: but the majority of it is for recruiting. We did 84 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 5: that Soldier Boy video last summer, and as soon as 85 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: we finished the Soldier Boy video and I had it 86 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: hadn't been posted for five minutes. And I bet you 87 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: I've got twenty thirty text messages from recruits that are 88 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: just texting me and calling me like, oh my god, 89 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 5: this is amazing, you know, coach. And we still have 90 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: kids a little visit here and they'll like pull out 91 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: their cell phone and the lock screen or screensaver is 92 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: a picture of me, you know, doing the Soldier Boy 93 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: video down the hall and stuff like that. So you 94 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: realize how many people see it, and then we've got 95 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 5: a great team here at Carolina that helps with that. 96 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Also, it seems like it's paid off because I was 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: reading that you guys have kind of put together the 98 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: best recruiting class talent wise since twenty twelve. You guys 99 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: really came on late last season. You beat Clemson for 100 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the first time in eight seasons, seven seasons or something 101 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: like that. Well, since the trophy got since the trophy 102 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: came about, Yeah, the new trophy. 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: But talk about the excitement surrounding the program. 104 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was huge, a lot of energy and excitement 105 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: coming off the twenty one season, going to a bowl 106 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: game for the first time in a few years, beating 107 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: Florida Auburn, and then North Carolina in the bowl game 108 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: in the last three of our last five games we won. 109 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 5: And then to get a guy like Spencer and Juice 110 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 5: here last season. If they were your sources, I don't 111 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: know if they were not to have Spencer and Juice 112 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: here in twenty one to two, and then to finish 113 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: like we did, I mean we had to beat Kentucky, 114 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 5: beat Texas, A and M had some great wins midway 115 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: through the season, and then to come back and finish 116 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: the regular season with a win over Tennessee and Clemson 117 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 5: back to back top ten wins. It was already recruiting 118 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: was already going really really well for us, but then 119 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: to finish the season like we did, the recruiting just 120 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 5: went to a whole different level and open up a 121 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: lot of other people's eyes as well, and I think validated, 122 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 5: you know, kind of what we're doing. And when young 123 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: men would recruits come on campus and they get in 124 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: this facility and they see what we're about, it's a 125 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: huge thing for us pretty program, but just for then 126 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 5: the people that maybe aren't familiar with is it really 127 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 5: opened up a lot of oz regionally and nationally about 128 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: us as a program. 129 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: When you're in the beginning of the season and things 130 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily going the way like Spencer wanted to go 131 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: and your offense wanted to go. When you see that transition, 132 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: what do you attribute that to In the middle of 133 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: the season where it's like there seemed like a switch 134 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: went off. Yeah, you talked about Tennessee, you talked about Clemson. 135 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: The way you guys ended the season, it was electric. 136 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: We were here for this for sure. One you guys 137 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: know you've been around it. The thing we talk about 138 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: with our team is just just continue to. 139 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: Get better each week. 140 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 5: And I get it we're judged on twelve Saturdays, but 141 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 5: I tell our guys all the time, like it would 142 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 5: be a shame if in game twelve or the same 143 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 5: team that we are in game two or three. And 144 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 5: we we practice really really hard and do a lot 145 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: of competitive work in practice where we do get better 146 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: as a team throughout the year. 147 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: And I saw us getting better. 148 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: Spencer will be the first to tell you that he 149 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 5: didn't play his best, you know, early in the season, 150 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: but then I saw him night at practice and I 151 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 5: saw what he was how he was performing. So we 152 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: had to constantly tweak and adjust things as coaches, uh 153 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: to make sure that we were putting our players in 154 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: the best chance to be the best positions to be successful. 155 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: But honestly, I think it was just particularly going into 156 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 5: that Tennessee game, it was we just went back. We 157 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 5: talked about competition all the time in this program, and 158 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 5: we told our players the week at the Tennessee game, 159 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: look the way that Tennessee plays defense, you're gonna they're 160 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: gonna play a lot of man coverage. The way that 161 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: we played defense, there's gonna be we're gonna play a 162 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: lot of man coverage, and this game is gonna come 163 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: down to just one on one opportunities, and Spencer give 164 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: these receivers a chance to go make plays, and DB's 165 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: we're giving you an opportunity to go match up against 166 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: their receivers one on one as a winner and a 167 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: loser and just go compete. And uh, I think from 168 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 5: an offensive standpoint specifically, I think Spencer just did a 169 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 5: really good job those last couple of games of just 170 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 5: giving our playmakers opportunity to go make plays and just 171 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 5: kind of had someone of a you know, screw up 172 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 5: mentality and just let it all hang out there. 173 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: It's gotta be a testament to your staff though, because 174 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the middle of the year, if 175 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: you're not playing your best ball, it's so easy for 176 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: guys to either whether pack it in just kind of 177 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: be discouraged, like keep feeding this the same bullshit weekend 178 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: in a week out. So that has to be a 179 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: testament to the staff that you have. 180 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 181 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: The one word that always comes up when we talk 182 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 5: to people or when people talk to me about our 183 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 5: staff recruits players, players, families, is two words real and genuine, 184 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: and I believe that. I mean, to me, that's a 185 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: great compliment. Like what you see with us is what 186 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 5: you get. And we're gonna coach these guys really really hard. 187 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 5: We're to be demanding, hold them accountable, but we're gonna 188 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: treat them with respect. We're gonna treat them right, and 189 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: we're the same people each and every day. I'm sure 190 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: you guys have been around coaches that they're on like 191 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: an emotional roller coaster and they're high, they're low based 192 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: off wins, losses, their mood that day. I mean, there's 193 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: highs and lows throughout the season, but we as coaches 194 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: really really try and just be consistent and steady throughout 195 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 5: and hopefully our players feed off that. 196 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: When you're when you finish this season, that a high 197 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: note that you did. How do you in the New 198 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: day and age attack like the transfer portal as opposed 199 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: to the euro classic basic high school recruiting, Like is 200 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: there like a difference you go about it or is 201 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: there like different Like I really don't understand it a 202 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: lot because when we played the transfer portal was basically 203 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: you have to sit out for a year and it 204 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: hardly ever happened. Like you commit somewhere, like you're you're there, 205 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: and that's what it is, whether you like it or not. 206 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Like Juice. Like Juice, the portal worked out worked out 207 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: great for him. I'm from JMU. 208 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and we've we've had a lot of guys that 209 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: have come from smaller schools and nobody had ever heard 210 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: of that we thought were good players, and they came 211 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: here and it worked out great for us. It always 212 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: starts with high school recruiting. But as the difference to 213 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: me now is like when you guys were in high school, 214 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 5: if a team was going to take if if Michigan 215 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: was going to take five, they were going to take 216 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 5: two offensive tackles, and in your signing class, and they 217 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 5: had five guys that they offered scholarships to and they 218 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 5: didn't get any of them, Well, at that point you 219 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: kind of turn, I don't want to necessary necessarily say 220 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: to play and B. The plan B would have been 221 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 5: high school players six, seven, and eight. 222 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: Maybe that isn't. 223 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: Quite good enough, but we got to take them because 224 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 5: we need two offensive tackles in today's time. It's all 225 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 5: right if we don't feel like these guys are quite 226 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: where they need to be high school wise, you can 227 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: turn to the portal. So that's kind of how it 228 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: is for us, if that makes sense. Yeah, we go 229 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 5: into it right now. If you went in our staff 230 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: room and looked at our recruiting board, we have target 231 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 5: numbers for how many guys we want to sign at 232 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 5: each position, and that's going to start in the high 233 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: school ranks. But you don't have to quote unquote reach 234 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: for somebody that maybe isn't quite good enough. 235 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: You can go to the portal. 236 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 5: Or it's a position that all right, we realize that 237 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: we're losing for us. For example, last season, we knew 238 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 5: we were losing off our twenty two team. We were 239 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: going to lose five offensive linemen, three starters and two 240 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 5: backups that were seniors. 241 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: The worst thing there. 242 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: Saying well crap, and we got a really good group 243 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: of freshmen coming in. We need some experience and some 244 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: older guys to come in and play offensive line. So 245 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: we brought into transfer portal guys to play offensive line. 246 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: And UH, I think it's situations like that where you 247 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 5: need uh you don't have to go to the junior 248 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: college ranks necessarily to get an older guy. You can 249 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 5: find somebody in the portal as well, So it's it's 250 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: definitely changed things. And and it's a lot like free 251 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 5: agency in the NFL, and just trying to get the 252 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 5: best guys here seems like. 253 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: It's more difficult than the free agency in the NFL 254 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: because in the NFL you're tied to a contract for 255 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: a few years, and and in college it seems like 256 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: it's basically just a frenzy any anytime guys can pick 257 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: up and leave. How is that is that difficult to navigate? Like, 258 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, when you're out there, it feels like you 259 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: got to recruit these guys all year around, you're in 260 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: and year out. Now even when they're here, right, even 261 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: when they're here, because you know they're looking like, oh, 262 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: this this guy you know, might he might have got 263 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: an NIL deal this other school, and he's like, oh, 264 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I played more than him, Maybe I deserve to go 265 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: do that or go to another school. 266 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: Like how really, really, really, really hard. 267 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: And for a couple of reasons, And on what you 268 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: just said to me is the one of the issues 269 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: to a t is this guy heard that this guy 270 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: got that. Well, the problem is with then iol there's 271 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: no transparency, so you know, nobody really truly knows what 272 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: anybody is getting. So guys hear different things. You know, 273 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: we may have a guy on our team that here 274 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: is at another team that a teammate of his is 275 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: getting X, and why aren't I getting that? You know, 276 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: there's that narrative, and then I can go somewhere else 277 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: because this guy got this amount of money to go 278 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: to this school. And you just don't truly know because 279 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: there's so much transparency and bs if you will out 280 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: there about what certain guys are getting and and it 281 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: is you don't have contracts like the NFL. 282 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: And then the. 283 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: Portal windows are big, so they're in college football. There's 284 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: basically a portal window that's open from like the first 285 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 5: week of December to the middle of January where a 286 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: guy can enter the portal. So, I mean it's one 287 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: of those like every time my phone rings and it's 288 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 5: a player, it's like, oh God, you know, what is 289 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 5: he calling to tell me? And then we got anxiety, yeah, 290 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: no doubt for six weeks, and we've got just a 291 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: son of a bitch, and we've got the same thing 292 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: coming up at the end of April. 293 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: After spring practice. 294 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 5: There's an other portal window opening up for two weeks 295 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 5: where guys can transfer. And don't get me wrong, we've 296 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: benefited from it, Spencer Jews. A lot of guys on 297 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: our team that we've brought in here is as transfers. 298 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: So it's one of those Yeah, you can frame it as. 299 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: Recruiting your own team, but we're not going to change 300 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 5: who we are. And all of a sudden, you know, 301 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: treat these guys with kid gloves because we're worried about 302 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: upsetting somebody and him leaving. 303 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: Like we're gonna be us. 304 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 5: I don't coach any differently than what I did free 305 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: Transfer Portal, and I don't think any of our coaches do. 306 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: We're gonna care about these. 307 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: Guys and love them and coach them really really hard, 308 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: and and and day in day out, you know, be 309 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: real where this is a program that they want to 310 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: be a part of. 311 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, if. 312 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: A guy feels like he can be better suited somewhere else, 313 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 5: and wish him well and we move on. 314 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: What about a guy that is in a graiaroa who 315 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: feels like he's not getting as much of an opportunity 316 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: as in his mind, he feels like he should be 317 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: and you see a lot of upside in him and potential, 318 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: Like what is that conversation or what is that messaging? 319 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: Like like when he comes to your office and he's 320 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: kind of up in the air about it. 321 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, just being honest with them and having those 322 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 5: conversations about here's where we see you. I mean, we 323 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 5: had those conversations last The transfer portal window after spring 324 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 5: practice is good because you know, you guys know there's 325 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: going to be guys that go through spring practice for 326 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: us and at the end of spring practice you have 327 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 5: a general idea of what their role is going to 328 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: be this year, and it may not be as impactful 329 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 5: as they want it to be. So I had those 330 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: conversations last spring, and I'm sure I will this year 331 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: that look so and so we don't want you to leave. 332 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: You're going to be a senior though this is your 333 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: last year of eligibility. Here's your role right now. You're 334 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 5: the fifth defensive tackle for us right now, or you're 335 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: going to be our fourth offensive tackle coming out of 336 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 5: spring practice. That can change over the summer in preseason camp. 337 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: But if you want to go somewhere and start and 338 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 5: be able to play a lot more, you may want 339 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 5: to look, you know, going somewhere else. I mean, I'll 340 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: always have those conversations with guys and be honest and 341 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: not bs them and tell them what they want to hear, 342 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: because I don't want to lose a roster spot. But 343 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: you also, you know, we just want want to tell 344 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: guys that truth too and with where they stand and 345 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: always be you know, transparent. 346 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: Also when you are navigating the nil deals, which I know, 347 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: like there's rules that the university can't be involved, but 348 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: you can have third parties. It's really like we said, 349 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: the Wild West of what's going on in college football 350 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: right now. But you're sitting in a room full of 351 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: guys that are from all sorts of different incomes growing up. 352 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: You have guys that are in the one percent their 353 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: parents are did really well, and guys that are coming 354 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: in from you know, government cheese type stuff. And these 355 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: guys are getting deals, whether it's a six figure deal, 356 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars something like that. How do you kind 357 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: of temper jealousy in that locker room when guys feel slighted. 358 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: Is there a role that you feel like you should 359 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: take on as a head coach of being like, hey, 360 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: like if you're comparing it to a thief of joy, Like, 361 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: let's not. 362 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: Focus on that right now. It's focused on what we 363 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: can do. Yeah, no, it is. 364 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: It is to me one of the biggest challenges for 365 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 5: not just me, but probably any head coach right now 366 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: is just navigating that. You know, because we got one 367 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty guys on our football team. You count 368 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: scholarship guys, walk ons, everybody. We got one hundred and 369 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: twenty football players. That a lot of a lot of 370 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: personalities and a lot of different backgrounds that these guys 371 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: are coming from. You know, basketball, They're dealing with ten 372 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: to fifteen players. I'm dealing with one hundred and twenty. 373 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: So it's it's something I'll be honest with you. I 374 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: wish I had a great answer for you. I'm still 375 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: learning each and every day and how to best navigate it. 376 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: Do you talk about it? Do you not talk about it? 377 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: Do you have individual conversations with guys? Do you do 378 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: you talk about it as a group? 379 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: You know? 380 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: But the one thing is we talk out here all 381 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: the time about you know, the team and old adage, 382 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: I mean, the most the more success the team has, 383 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 5: the more it's gonna be great for individuals as well, 384 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: and I've been able for me. I've used examples of 385 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: other teams maybe in other sports where nil or whatever 386 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: you want to call it, a fractured locker room has 387 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: really affected the team's ability to perform on the field. 388 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: You know, great talented teams, and why didn't they win 389 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: football games all? They weren't very strong in the locker 390 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: room and they had a bunch of jealousies and things 391 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: like that as well. So the more examples that we 392 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: could point out about that and the better. But it's 393 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: something I'll be honest, and I'm still kind of navigating 394 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 5: through and each and every day is different and I'm 395 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: learning each and every day the best way to handle it. 396 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: Also, it seems like everything you just said send on 397 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: so much like the NFL, Like Rabel will sit in 398 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: front of the team meeting room and be like, hey, 399 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: you guys want more money, win games. Teams want guys 400 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: who have experience winning, and so it just kind of 401 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: seems like this is legit turning into the minor leagues. 402 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we literally had that conversation NFL in 403 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: an offensive team meeting where we talked about, look, we 404 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 5: won eight games last year and went to the Gator 405 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: Bowl and that was great. 406 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's just like whether it be in IL or whatever. 407 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: You win more games, you go to better bowl games, 408 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: you go to better bowl games, you get better gifts. 409 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: You know, you get more in IL opportunities, the more 410 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: you win if you're on the national stage. So our 411 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: guys know it. But you know, let's not let's not 412 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: lose sight of they're here to play football. They're here 413 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: to get an education, and they need to graduate from 414 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: this university. And then if they can capitalize on their name, 415 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: image and likeness along the way, more power to them. 416 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 5: And we want to help them, you know, in any way. 417 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 5: But let's not lose sight of why these people have 418 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: given you this, why you have this opportunity, and that 419 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: you can you know, the best thing that. 420 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: You can do is is go be a good student 421 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: and go play really good football. 422 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: Right keeping the main thing, the main thing exactly. You 423 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: guys beat Tennessee, you beat Clemson. You guys, have you 424 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: guys finished strong? How do you carry that same standard 425 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: over in the next year so that way you don't 426 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: get off to. 427 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: A slow start. 428 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the other one. You know, I got here, 429 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: I got hired December twenty twenty. I got hired, and 430 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: when I came into that program, my biggest challenge was 431 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 5: instilling some confidence into this football team because it wasn't 432 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 5: a very confident team and they did not necessarily expect 433 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: to win, and you had to build that belief that 434 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: felt us we're good enough, you know, we can win 435 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: football games in this league. Now fast forward two years 436 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: later or two years later, and you're sitting here. I 437 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 5: don't want to say tempering expectations, but let's understand all 438 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 5: the work that went into winning eight games last season. 439 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: We sit at a bunch players are probably tired of 440 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: me hearing it, like, we just can't assume that everything's 441 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: going to go well this year because it went well 442 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: last year. At the end of the season, like this 443 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: is a whole new team in so many ways. Yeah, 444 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: we got a lot of returning players, but we've also 445 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 5: got a bunch of new faces, coaches, players, transfers, freshmen 446 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 5: coming in on and on and on. So it's let's 447 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 5: let's look back at what we did well last year, 448 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: continue to build on that with the great players that 449 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 5: we have returning, Let's look at the things that we 450 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: weren't very good at last year, and there's a lot 451 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 5: of things that we have to improve on as a 452 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: football team, and definitely not lose sight of all the 453 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 5: work that put that went into us being able to 454 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 5: win those games down the stretch, win eight games and 455 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 5: make sure that nobody's satisfied, Like I didn't. We have 456 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: higher expectations here. We're really really proud of what we 457 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: did last season in the progress we've made. But I 458 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: didn't come here to be the to be a head 459 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 5: coach that was seven and six and eight and five 460 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: every single season, Like, we have higher expectations than we should, 461 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: and we're just getting started in our minds. 462 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: When you spoke on tempering expectations with the guys, when 463 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: you walk into a program as lacking confidence, what was 464 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: your approach, Like, how did you dissect that, we're all right, 465 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: we're lacking confidence here? And then how did you approach 466 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: it of how you're going to give guys confidence. 467 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 5: I dissected it when I met with I got hired, 468 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: and when I got hired, I met with every single 469 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: player on the team individually in my office. So one 470 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 5: hundred plus guys just get to know you tell me 471 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: about yourself, where you're from, tell me much family, what 472 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 5: are you majoring in? 473 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: Why'd you choose South Carolina? 474 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: But then I asked every single one of them at 475 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 5: the end of the conversation, why are we a two 476 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 5: win team? Like why is the coach that you came 477 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 5: here to play for no longer the head coach? And 478 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 5: why am I sitting in this office? And what needs 479 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: to change for us to have success? And I wrote 480 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 5: down everything that all one hundred plus players told me 481 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 5: and then just added it up, and a lot of 482 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: the same issues kept coming up over and over and 483 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 5: over again. Of those was there was a lack of 484 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: confidence some guys, not everybody, but a handful of guys 485 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: that didn't didn't believe that they could truly win on Saturdays, 486 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 5: and we needed to overcome that. So for me, it 487 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: was just early on celebrating every small victory and accomplishment 488 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: inside this building, outside this building, academics, you name it, 489 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: just celebrating those and then just pointing out the good 490 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: football players that we had on this team, the individuals, 491 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 5: the progress that we were making, and then just also 492 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: I think, you know, when you enjoy what you're doing 493 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: and enjoy coming to work, or coming in this facility 494 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: each day that hopefully builds confidence over time, and that's 495 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: what we try to get back to as well, where yeah, 496 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: we work really really hard here, but let's have some 497 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: fun and let's make these guys or let's hope these 498 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 5: guys just learn to enjoy coming into this facility each day. 499 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: And it just kind of took off from there. 500 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: Seems like the boys love playing for you, hope. 501 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: So it's a fun group. You know. 502 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: I got into this for a lot of different reasons, 503 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 5: but relationships and just being with the guys is right 504 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: at the time. 505 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: And I truly it's not coach speak. 506 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 5: I love coming in this building each and every day, 507 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: Like we got a bunch of really good dudes on 508 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: this team, really good people, uh, in this program, and 509 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: even after a loss, like I can't wait to get 510 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: back in here the next day and get right back 511 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 5: to work. 512 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: So what was I gonna ask? I can't remember. I'm 513 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: drawing a blank. 514 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: Right from a recruiting standpoint, what's selling point on South Carolina? Like, 515 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: if we were trying to recruit us, what you didn't yep, 516 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: that's okay? 517 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Were we're not good? Big ten? Big ten? 518 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: One of us yeah, I had no SEC offers the 519 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: best conference in the game. 520 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: Wow, not even Vanderbilt, that's terrible. That was more of 521 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: a great thing. 522 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: I hope if you're sitting here, got a couple five 523 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: stars sitting right now, and you want to sell us 524 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: the dream in Columbia. 525 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: Yep, I will tell you that we have everything that 526 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: you need to be successful here and for us to 527 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: win championships. Uh, we can win at the highest level. 528 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: We got a beautiful city to go to school in. 529 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: South Carolina is an awesome state to live. Close to 530 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: the beach or close to the mountains. There's great academics 531 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 5: capital city of South Carolina, so there's a lot of 532 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: good from that standpoint. 533 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: Academics are strong here. It's a great school as well. 534 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: We've shown in other sports women's basketball, currently baseball, about 535 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: ten years ago that you can win national championships here. 536 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: There's no reason why we can't do it in football. 537 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: When I got hired here as the head coach, I 538 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 5: wanted to create a program that in my mind like 539 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: checked all the boxes as far as everything that you 540 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 5: needed to be successful. And I feel like we have 541 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 5: development in the weight room, nutrition, the facility that we 542 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: work in and out of each and every day anywhere 543 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 5: that you are. 544 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: You want to have a good recruiting base to recruit to, 545 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 4: and we do. 546 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: We got a lot of great players in this area 547 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 5: and within a five hour radius. And then for me, 548 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 5: it's just the challenge of doing something that hasn't been 549 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: done before. But you can here at Carolina like I 550 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 5: was here as an assistant coach before. In twenty ten, 551 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 5: we played in the SEC champ Ship game against Aubert 552 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 5: and cam Newton and we lost. 553 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 4: But we got to that game in Atlanta and we 554 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 4: did it. 555 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: And we didn't have any of this, this facility that 556 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 5: we're in and all the resources that we have here, 557 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: we didn't have any of that. And now I see 558 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 5: what we have. So there's no reason why we can't 559 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: get back. And as a competitor, you want to compete 560 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 5: in the highest level. No disrespect to the Big Ten, 561 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: but the SEC is the best conference in all the 562 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: college football. So if you want to play against the 563 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: best and compete against the best, come on. 564 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: We have no remember talk, We have no room to 565 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: talk right now. We're talking about after Michigan and Ouse. 566 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: You're right, it's just nice to have a little bit 567 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: one thing we do have is there are two Big 568 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: ten teams in the collegeball playoffs. 569 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, little trash talk never hurts anybody else. 570 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of trash talk, would it be fair to say 571 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: that the South Carolina game Cocks are the team to 572 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: beat in the state of South Carolina? 573 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: Oh, We've got great respect for our rival and that. 574 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: We need to clip. We need to clip, we need 575 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: to clip. We got great respect. 576 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 5: And I got told Dabo after the game this year. 577 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: We were able to win that football game and we 578 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 5: played really, really well, and a big part of that 579 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: was because we knew what it would take to beat 580 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: a team you know, like that as well. So it's 581 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 5: two great programs and it's great for the state when 582 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 5: when both teams or both teams are good. I was 583 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: apart when I was here as an assistant the beginning 584 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: of a five game winning streak against those guys, So 585 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: we certainly need to get back to that as well. 586 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: Sorry, do you think could you guarantee there we go 587 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: game talk fans that you guys will beat Clemson this year? 588 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 5: Gosh, Ryan, I respect it. I guarantee. It's too makes 589 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 5: it real, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna be 590 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: a hell of an atmosphere across the street and wins 591 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: Rice Stadium the Saturday after Thanksgiving. And I can promise 592 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: you we know the importance of that game and and 593 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: uh uh we got a lot of work to do 594 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: before them, but we can't wait for that Saturday as well. 595 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: I was reading an article on the onion. 596 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: You are quoted saying, dabbo little weenie Sweeney, can you 597 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: confirm that? 598 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: Cannot I don't remember saying that. I've said a lot 599 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: of things. I don't remember that one. That's a new 600 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 5: one for me. I like how you threw out the 601 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 5: onion though. For that though, I'm just saying, for. 602 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: Anybody are you watching in season here is at least 603 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: all those people will be like, Okay, he's he stated 604 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: the onion not even sure. 605 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: I'd just changing gears a little bit. January second, twenty twelve. 606 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Was that a first down? 607 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: It was a catch? Talking about yeah, Danny Gold. 608 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about Michigan versus Michigan versus Virginia Tech. 609 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 5: Right, No, oh, I'm talking Well, I was going to 610 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 5: bring it up with you. You guys robbed the twenty 611 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: eleven season Sugar Bowl from Virginia Tech because we caught 612 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 5: a ball in the inz and that was a call. 613 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was twenty eleven season. 614 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 5: I thought you were bringing back up first down January first, 615 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: twenty twelve. 616 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: Help me were on that one? 617 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: January second, twenty twelve was the outback bull. There was 618 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: a guy who played here that Yeah, we won't bring 619 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: that one up. 620 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: The Virginia Tech one is still rawl in my mind 621 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: as well from the Sugar Bowl that night. 622 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: So we cut that doup and that legit game. 623 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: He was Rginia. 624 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: You're a Virginia coach there at the time. 625 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we donkeyed that. 626 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: We dominated that entire game. I wouldn't go that far. 627 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we went to overtime, but like you could 628 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: see the line of scrimmage. The way it was twin, 629 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: the way it was swaying was very it was very 630 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: they're running back, you really doing scrimmage. We were moving 631 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: at ease whatever we wanted we could really is why 632 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: I was closest we had, you know, a couple of 633 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: maybe play calls could have been a little bit different. 634 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, coaches were kind of trying. 635 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: To get too cute with it. 636 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh so you're blaming the coaches. Yeah, but we won, 637 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: so there's no blaming. 638 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: Yes, you know that. 639 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: We were on Bourbon Street that night and the boys 640 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: were stoked. We had a good time. That's like the 641 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: literally only bowl game. That's the only bowl game I won. 642 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: That's the only relevant bowl game we went to. 643 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: Too. 644 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't putting the years together with Carolanta Michigan. 645 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: You were you in, you were here. 646 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 4: You weren't here not for that game, for that hit. 647 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: I was not here for that. You saw it on TV. 648 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: It was number one play for they had to retire it. 649 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I remember about to play that game and 650 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: my coaches like it was like the only game I 651 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: really prepared for in college because everyone was like clown 652 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: and clown and clown put the film on boys. I 653 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: played pretty well, And after the game, I'm like, I 654 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: was hight. 655 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Those first rounds, guys, Hey, I played pretty well, brother, 656 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: you in the first everybody everybody. 657 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: Was gone at that point, like no one could stop him. 658 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: And I had a good game, and I go and 659 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm like so fired up. I turn on Sports Center 660 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 3: and sure, now that's all they talked about for the 661 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: next two and a half years. Seemed like just leaving 662 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: your tight end out to dry. The Titans should have 663 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: made that block. I'm not in the game right now, 664 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: like I can be. I don't have to be accountable 665 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: for nothing. 666 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: No. 667 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: Remember when George's dad came on, he was like, no, 668 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: that's not. 669 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: The Yeah, I mean, anybody who knows ball knows it 670 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: wasn't my block. So I don't need a George Kittles dad. 671 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: He don't know takes great accountability. I'm a great. I'm 672 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 3: a great. You want me in the locker room. You 673 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: absolutely want me in the locker room. 674 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Definitely getting off the bus too. 675 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not now, but like about forty pounds ago, absolutely, yeah, 676 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: I feel I mean, you still look good. You just 677 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: told me I seemed like I was bullimic about an 678 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 3: hour ago. 679 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was off camera. We're on camera now, 680 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to positive. 681 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 4: You look great. 682 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 3: You all see who Will Compton really is? You all 683 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: see it is so we didn't mean to turn this 684 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: into us. Is there anything we're missing that we should 685 00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: ask you? 686 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: I think you've covered the gamut on that one for sure. 687 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: What's your thought on uh on gambling? On sports gambling? 688 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: Was forced mean y'are hit me with everything right. 689 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: When you guys lost against MISSOO this year and I. 690 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: Was some people had some questions about Yeah, I was 691 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 5: really I was really carried. 692 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: I start. 693 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: That's when I started to carry the South Carolina flag. 694 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I think this is because JP Big, 695 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: he's our he's our game Cock analyst. I was like, hey, 696 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be excited about. He's like, I 697 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: don't know, man, there's always once a year the game Cocks. 698 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: That was a tough night, tough late afternoon. That one 699 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: was for sure gambling was I'll tread lightly on that 700 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: one because I just got the email about do not 701 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: make sure make sure nobody on your team or your 702 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: organization is betting on the NCAA tournament and all that 703 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: as well. So I just got that email from our 704 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: compliance office. So so you're not right with the women's 705 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: basketball team. 706 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: I'm riding with them. I'm not a betting on. 707 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, legally, my hand up and say the money on 708 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: Dawn and her team? 709 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: JP, do you got anything? Hm? 710 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: You want to re ask that question? 711 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: JP said when his players, after they get them playing 712 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: for him for four years, what is the big takeaway? 713 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: He wants them to have one walking away. 714 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: That's a good question. Is a great question, A great question. 715 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: That is a great question. 716 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: I would hope that when they graduated, you know, for one, 717 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: so when I sat in their home as a seventeen 718 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 5: year old and talked to their parents about the experience 719 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: they would have at Carolina that included graduating from college, 720 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 5: they walk out of here with a degree. But I 721 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: would hope that they say that myself and the entire 722 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: staff treated them with respect, treated them right, were the 723 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 5: same people day and day out, and got the most 724 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: out of them as a person and a player, you 725 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: know as well. And that's what's cool as a coach 726 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: is as I've gotten older that now I'm going to 727 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: weddings of guys that I coached, and guys that I 728 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 5: was in college with were recruiting their sons and things 729 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: like that. Just those relationships that you have, that those 730 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: would they would have such a great experience here that 731 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: they'd want to continue to have those relationships. 732 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: You know. 733 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: When I were for coach Burrier here, he used to 734 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: always say, you know, if you had if you were 735 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: a great coach and your players enjoyed playing for you, 736 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 5: they're gonna come around all the time after they're playing 737 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: days are over, and I would hope that we continue 738 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 5: to have guys that come back here all the time 739 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 5: because of the experience they had here. 740 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: That is a great question. That's a great question. 741 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: I think that's well said too, because you know, like 742 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: when you're going back around the program that knows you 743 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: you fucked with the staff. 744 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: There, Yeah, big time. If you could fight. 745 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: Any SEC coach, nice, nice, And I'm not saying I 746 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: am saying if you could fight one SEC coach, who 747 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: would that coach be? 748 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 4: If I could fight them? 749 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: Or power slap power power slap, power slap one SEC coach? 750 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: Who would it be? 751 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: Two questions this is this is developing. Who would you 752 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: want to fight? And who do you think you could 753 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: beat in a fight? This is hard hitting journalism. You're welcome. 754 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying yourself. Who we really are? 755 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: No, I feel I'm sure I feel like you are. 756 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: You didn't reciprocate. 757 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 2: That's okay. 758 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm having a good time. 759 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 5: There's a few I'd say that certainly at times, I've 760 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: definitely uh, I would want to fight with as well. 761 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 5: We sit in those head coaches meetings and it's we're 762 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 5: all competitors and we're intense, and it's, uh, there's great 763 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: respect for one another. But there's things that happen outside 764 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 5: that room and things like that that you're kind of like, 765 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 5: come on, man, I'm not gonna say a name, but 766 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: there's a few, And who would I Who do I 767 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: feel like I could take? 768 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 769 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 5: I worked with I worked with Sam Pittman at Georgia. 770 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: I worked with Kirby when I was at Georgia. So 771 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 5: I mean I know both those guys. Well, I feel 772 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 5: like from a quickness standpoint, agility all that, I could 773 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 5: probably take Sam. You know, he may be in a 774 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 5: beer drinking contest or something like that. 775 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure. 776 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 5: But Sam and Sam and I were neighbors at South Carolina, 777 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: so and he's a little bit older than me, so 778 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 5: I don't I mean, neighbors at Georgia. 779 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: So I don't know. There's a few. I mean, I'm 780 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: not to toot. 781 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 5: My own horn, but I stay pretty active and I 782 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 5: try and work out regularly and things like, well, I 783 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 5: appreciate you saying so, I really feel like I could 784 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: hold my own and be okay with all thirteen other 785 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: ones in that room. 786 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there'd be. 787 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 5: Some battles, but but uh, you know, there's a few 788 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 5: in particular that I would be a priority at the 789 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 5: top of the list. 790 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: Maybe one your schedule. 791 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Who's a team that you love to obviously be up 792 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter and grinning thinking I got you, motherfucker. 793 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: My wife and I literally just had that conversation this 794 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: morning about a team in the sec that goes back 795 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 5: to who I'd want to fight right now as well. 796 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: There's one in particular right now that I'm not really 797 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: high on. And my wife literally just said, you know, 798 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: we need this year when we play them, YadA, YadA, YadA. 799 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 5: So ask me again, y'all come back during the season 800 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: and we'll I want to know about. 801 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 4: Tell us camera, I'll tell you off camera. 802 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: Just recording, like, yeah, I'm juiced up now. 803 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: I look. 804 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a bit of a South Carolina fan. 805 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Now. 806 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: Be easy on that though, because we became Tennessee fans 807 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: last year. 808 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm pretty easy to win over as long as we 809 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: have a good time. 810 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: But hearing his players talk, listening to him talk, I 811 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: feel like I'm like I'm rooting for the boys now. 812 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: We would, I would play for you. Appreciate you. Yeah, 813 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: you seem like a great guy and a good coach. 814 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 815 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: In all honestly, that's a huge compliment. 816 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: And Coach Eckler speaks highly of you, So I'm like, 817 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm I'm an Eckler guy. You know what I mean? 818 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 5: Likewise, well, knowing the respect I have for you guys, 819 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 5: for you say that means a lot. 820 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 821 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: One last question that I have, can you talk about 822 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: the development of Spencer Radler since coming from Oklahoma? Obviously 823 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: had he had a falling out with Oklahoma, can you 824 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: just talk about how he's developed as a player and 825 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: a man. 826 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that he's going into this fifth year. 827 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: He's been awesome. 828 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 5: I was with him at Oklahoma, so I knew what 829 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: kind of person he was. 830 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: You were with him at Oklahoma. 831 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm Oklahoma. Two seasons we were together. We were two seasons. 832 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 5: I think it was great for Spencer because Spencer was 833 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: there in twenty nineteen and Jalen Hurts came in as 834 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 5: a transfer from Alabama and was our quarterback that ou 835 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: Spencer all that transition, transition with Jalen and how he 836 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: handled it, which I think I don't know Spencer would 837 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 5: say this. I think it helped Spencer when he came 838 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: here because he had seen somebody high profile like Jalen 839 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 5: Hurts come in there and do what he did, and 840 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: he was awesome when he got here. 841 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: Last year. 842 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 5: He didn't come in and all of a sudden, you know, 843 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 5: I'm Spencer Rattler and act differently. He came in and 844 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 5: earned the respect of his teammates with the way that 845 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 5: he worked in the weight room, and then he took 846 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: a lot of crap throughout the season last year, some 847 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 5: of it not necessarily justified because of you know, maybe 848 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 5: how we were performing and he wasn't playing his best. 849 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: And you guys know, I mean, the head coach and 850 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator, they're gonna take the most offense coordinator, 851 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 5: head coach and the quarterback are going to take the 852 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: most criticism of anybody in the program. When things are 853 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 5: going well, they get a ton of credit. When things 854 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 5: are going bad, they get all the blame. And he 855 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 5: wore that but never changed and just continued to work 856 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 5: and get better. And I was so excited for him 857 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 5: to have the success that he had last season, especially 858 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: towards the end of the year. And then that's just 859 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 5: carried over into this year with the way that these 860 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 5: come back and it's his team and the leadership that 861 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: he's showing and the work ethic and all that as well. 862 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: He's been awesome. 863 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: Where were you out in the process when he was 864 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: thinking about going at the draft, Like how involved were 865 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: you with him? 866 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 5: Ah? Very but wanting to give him his space as well, 867 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 5: you know, I mean I told him early on that, look, man, 868 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna obviously I want you to come back, 869 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 5: and I'm not going to lie to you to try 870 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 5: and get you to come back. 871 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: I'll get you all the information you need. 872 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 5: I'll get you on the phone with anybody in the 873 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 5: NFL you want to talk to that I've got a 874 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 5: connection with a relationship with and let's make the best 875 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 5: decision for you. And if it's coming back to South Carolina, great, 876 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 5: and if it's not, there'll be no bigger fan of 877 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: yours in the NFL than me. And I had those 878 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 5: conversations with him, I had those conversations with his dad 879 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 5: as well, and it was an open, you know, communication 880 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 5: throughout and Spencer said it and it's the truth. Like really, 881 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 5: in the month of December, he was focused on that 882 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 5: bowl game, and we I think I talked to his 883 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: dad maybe twice, and Spencer wants about it in the 884 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: month of December, and it was like, let's just get 885 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: through the bowl and then we'll make a decision. 886 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: And then we did, and all right, we got through 887 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: the ball game. 888 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 5: And there were a lot of conversations that were taking 889 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 5: place after the bowl game as well about whether he 890 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 5: was going to come back or not, and and I 891 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: just tried to be there to answer any questions, telling 892 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 5: him what I thought. 893 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: And how much I wanted him back. 894 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 5: We were naming we were hiring a new offensive coordinator 895 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 5: during that time, so that hire was going to be 896 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 5: really really critical because that guy obviously was going to 897 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 5: be working with Spencer, and Spencer needed to develop a 898 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 5: relationship with him as well and feel like he did. 899 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: So it was. It was a good process, very open 900 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: and very engaging. Awesome. 901 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: Awesome, man, We appreciate your time. This was this is incredible. 902 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: Guys are awesome. I appreciate you, and I mean that 903 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: y'all need to come back more often. 904 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: We will, don't worry, we will