1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants httle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of The Giants Subtle Podcast. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: It's our game preview the Giants taking on the New 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints down in the super Dome. As usual, Bob 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Popa will join us later in the show to talk 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: to Giants head coach Joe Judge. I'll talk to Giants 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: now starting middle linebacker Take Crotter, who's stepping in for 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Blake Martinez, and Lance Meddo and Paul Datino. We'll talk 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: to Mike Triplett, who covers the Saints for ESPN. First, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: a reminder, The Giants Subtle Podcast can be found on 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms at Giants dot com, slash podcast, 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: and on the Giants Mobile app. Find the subscribe and 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: make sure you check us out. Moving forward, all right, 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: let's get started with Take Crowder, who's the Giants middle 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: linebacker now will likely be wearing the green dot on 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: the helmet depending on formation and personnel. I had a 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: chance to talk to him about replacing Blake Martinez and 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: playing the Saints this week. Hey, how are you man? Good? 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: How are you, I'm good, all right, let's talk about it. Unfortunately, 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: you have to watch your teammate Blake Martinez go down 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: with injury last week. What was that like for you 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: and your group kind of emotionally watching them then having 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: to just kind of zip right in and get to 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: the next play man. It was very hard at first, 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, just saying you're counting the defense go down. Uh, 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: he's a great player, comes to work weekend and week out, 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: and uh, just to see him go down like that, 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: it hurt. But we know it was like next man 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: up mentality, So we had to you know, do we 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: had to do and uh lead the defense? What are 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: the mechanics like then do you have to go find 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: your other helmet? How does that just? How does it 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: work from your perspective? Yeah, So we always, you know, 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: practice having another helmet and making the adjustment, and we 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: just did that Swiss helmets and it just happens like that. 37 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: So you have two fitted helmets just for yourself on 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: the sideline, one with the dot, one without, and then 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: you just kind of just swapped the other one on. Yeah, 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: just get the other helmet with the dot on it 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and just go with the flow. Now, obviously you did 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: me in the preseason training camp with the dot. What 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: was that like in a in game regular season situation? 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Having to do that with everything going full speed? It 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: was different. You know, it's just having to be the man, 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: the next man up and um, you know, real game situation. 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: It was. It was hard at first, but it was 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: something you definitely gotta get used to. And you know, 49 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: it's just all about being a leader. What's the difference. 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: What's the challenges of it in a game as opposed 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: to what you're doing on the practice field. You just 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: gotta be laser focused. You know. You gotta make sure 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: the right people on the field. Uh, make sure y'all 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: in the right call and make sure everyone here is 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: the right car. So it's a it's a definitely a job, 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: but you can definitely get it done now you have 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the DOT. But I know you're kind of in charge 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: of the front seven right or six depending on the play, 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: and Logan runs a lot of the alignement in the back. 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: So how do you guys work together once the play 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: call comes in to make sure that everyone's in sync. 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm a guy like I'd like to talk about the 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: play before the play happens. So I try to anticipate 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and uh communicate with Low, Uh 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking on some certain stuff and by formation 66 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. A lot of the back end him, 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: uh formation and stuff like that. So we just try 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: to communicate before the play happens, and that I think 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that helps us a lot. I saw a blake here 70 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: the other day. That guy lives in Breeds Football. I'm 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: sure he's gonna be around. Has he been in the 72 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: meeting room with you this week? How has he tried 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: to help you to get ready for this game this week? Yeah? 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: He paulsseying and now you know he's mostly doing rehab 75 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but you know he tries to help 76 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: out on small things like with the alignement and uh 77 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: just knowing try to anticipate to play before the play happens. 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: So now you're gonna head in here, you're going to 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans. How valuable was it to get that experience 80 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: at home before you head into a hostile en rhyme? 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: And I know their crads supposed to be quiet for 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: the offense, but it's still stupid domes loud, right, So 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: how is that? Now? How did this week help you 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: getting that three quarters of football to be prepared to 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: do this in a road environment. Now, Um, I feel 86 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 1: like we'd come to practice every day and work different situations, 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: and you know, we work crowd noise and stuff like that, 88 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: so it won't be anything new to us, just something 89 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: we gotta deal with and go with. Now you're an 90 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: SEC guy. Have you played in the Superdome? Yeah? Um, 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: played against Texas. That's random. Yeah, it was a bowl game. 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: It was another game, so I can't I can't really 93 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: remember at the moment, but I played there twice. Oh, 94 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: I played boat Baylor played against Baylor there too. Do 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Texas teams in Louisiana? Interesting? Um? So what is it 96 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: about the building that that kind of makes it fun 97 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: and and special? It's the Superdome, you know, it's I 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: unders just that that football feeling, you know, being in 99 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: the stadium. You know you're gonna get a good crowd 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: being in New Orleans. Uh, what can I see? All right, 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about you before we get to the Saints. 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Came a long way last pick in the draft last year. 103 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Now you're coming in, You're gonna be perhaps we'll see 104 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: what happens. The starting middle one ACA for the New 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: York Football Giants. Where do you think you've made the 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: most improvements as a player from when you stepped into 107 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: this building last year after you were drafted to where 108 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: you are today. I would say, just, uh, my focus, 109 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, UM, just try to know as much as 110 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I can. You know, not only my job, but what 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: other people doing around me. So I feel like it's 112 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: being focused knowing what I have to do, knowing what 113 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: they do and stuff like that. Just it just helped me. 114 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: If it's my game a lot. What do you have 115 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: to do in order to do that? In the context 116 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: of playing a Patrick Graham defense where everything can change 117 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: so much from week to week, where you have your 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: basic fundamentals right, but the game plan can switch based 119 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: on opponent. Like I said, like I keep handing on 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: just being focused. Uh, you just gotta stay down there 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: and trust the coaches, trust what we talk about during 122 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: the week, and um execute it. Now you're talking about 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: being focused on game day, right, what's your process during 124 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the week to make sure that everything is filed away properly? Right, 125 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: So if you have that focus on game day, you 126 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: at least have the underlying knowledge so you can make 127 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: those right calls depending on formation, situation, etcetera, etcetera. And 128 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: they start saying practice. Uh, they coach doing a great 129 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: job pushing us and just keep dialing in on how 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: how important it is to practice and do it in 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: practice the first time. So and ganging reality is not 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: as bad as it as it seems to be very good. 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about your opponent this week, the Saints. 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: When you watch their offense on tape, how are they 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: trying to attack defenses every week? I like to do 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: different things throughout different formations. Uh. They like to move 137 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot um try to cause a lot of confusing 138 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, a great offense, got 139 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of good players and stuff like that. We 140 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: just got to focus on us and do what we 141 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: do and we'll be good. How do they try to 142 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: attack in the run game. They're one of the heaviest 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: run teams in the league, especially on early downs. So 144 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: you don't think about that with the sand, You think 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: you breeze spread them out for them all over the place, right, 146 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: But this team wants to run the football. What do 147 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: you guys need to do to slow that down? Uh? 148 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Like I said, just do what we do. You know, 149 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: come to play and execute the scheme that we have 150 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: in this week. Now you can scheme it up what 151 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: you want to having. Kamar is a special player, right, 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different things. So without giving up the 153 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: game plan. Obviously that's not gonna be a one person job, right, 154 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a team effort, team effort every game. 155 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: So is that a deal where you have to identify 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: him where he is pretty snappy? Is they're going to 157 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: put them all over the place. Obviously we want to 158 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, know where he is h during the play 159 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: or whatever. But um, like I said, it's eleven people 160 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: that we gotta worry about. So that's what that's what 161 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: we're focused on. And you talk about movement, right, he's 162 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: one of the guys that they will move pre snap. 163 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: So how do you guys stay disciplined so that movement 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: doesn't take you out of what you're trying to do. 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: This is what we've been doing this week in practice, Uh, 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: getting different movements, different formations, different shifts, just so we 167 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: won't be surprised when it does happen. Um, we we 168 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, so we're well, we definitely will 169 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: anticipated and we'll we will be fine. What does your 170 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: group have to do a little bit of better job 171 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: of getting off the field and some of those two 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: minutes situations at the end of halves and at the 173 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: end of games. Yeah, I think that's just all about finishing. 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: We just got to work on finishing. We did that 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: this week, and um, we know our weaknesses, so as 176 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: we've been attacking that and that's what we're gonna try 177 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: to see it. Then how about the final question, how 178 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: about producing some more big plays, right, A couple more sacks, 179 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: maybe an interception. You guys, I think we're top ten 180 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: and interceptions last year and the league. You haven't gotten 181 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: quite as many of those this season. So what do 182 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: you guys need to do? And you personally even to 183 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: try to create some more of those big negative plays, 184 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: which is you guys know that's the best way to 185 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: short circuit some of these drives, especially in two minutes. 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Just keep playing how we play and when the play 187 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: comes to us, we gotta mate the play obviously, So 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: once the players come up, just making the play and 189 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: m we'll be good. Best of luckman, We appreciate it. 190 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Say that, thank you all for having That's giant has 191 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: been a linebacker. Take crowd or don't miss out on 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: the return of New York Giants football. Season might be 193 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: on their way, but there's still time to secure season 194 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: tickets and root on your Giants and MetLife Stadium. Speak 195 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: with the Giants ticket representative now and become a season 196 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: ticket member by calling eight eight n y G. All right, 197 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: let's go on to Mike Triplet, he covers the Saints 198 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: for ESPN. He had a chance to talk to Paul 199 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: to Tino and Lance Meadow. The Giants began a two 200 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: game road trip on Sunday as they visit the Saints 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: at the Caesar's super Dome in New Orleans, the saints 202 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: first official home game of the season due to a 203 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Hurricane IDA. And to get more into what to expect 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: from the Giants opponent this week, we are now joined 205 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: by Mike Triplet, ESPN NFL Nation reporter for the Saints. 206 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Mikey got, Lance Meadow, and Paul Detino here greatly appreciate 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: the time today, hope poll as well. How's everything on 208 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: your right? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. I've 209 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: been home a little a little more often in the 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: last month than the Saints, but share their sentiment that 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: it's it's good to be home and have a normal 212 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: full week schedule on an actual game in the Supernome. Absolutely, Well, 213 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: let's start there, because, as you just alluded to, this 214 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: is going to be their first time home, really the 215 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: first time sleeping in their own beds in quite some time. 216 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: What are you expecting energy wise at Sunday's game and 217 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: how much of an impact do you think true home 218 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: field advantage will hold for the Saints this weekend? Okay, 219 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: energy should be through the roof. I mean some great 220 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: stories this week about when when they were walking into 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the locker room after their win over New England, they 222 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: had already started the chat we're going home, We're going home, 223 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and when the flight attendant announced welcome back to New 224 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: Orleans on the plane, the entire plane erupted. You know, 225 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: the players have talked about how good it is to 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: sleep in their own beds, spend time with their families, 227 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: just go back to their favorite coffee shops, and a 228 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: lot of talk about the Superdome itself and how special 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: that is. Not only that they haven't played a game 230 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: in the Superdome, get this year for them played a 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: game in front of a full capacity crowd in the 232 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Superdome since ten and you know, everyone generally agrees it's 233 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: one of the loudest places play in the league. It's 234 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: a big advantage obviously to the defense, Dison quieted for 235 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the offense, so for all those three and it should 236 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: be as much of a home field that has advantaged 237 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: as you would hope for. And Sean Payton has already 238 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: been like, don't do it just to show up and 239 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: win the game? And who's still keys to victory? We 240 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: can't forget to It's interesting you talk about that home 241 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: field advantage. We all know it's been a house of horrors. 242 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I call it the Super Doom as far as the 243 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Giants are concerned, And to be frank with you, you know, 244 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: I think schematically that crowd is going to have an 245 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: impact on this game. I mean, Joe Judge talks about 246 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: when you know they came back from Katrina to fill 247 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: the Superdome. The Giants have then and it took the 248 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: install offensive line that's been changing out pieces almost on 249 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: a weekly basis. And I have to think that the 250 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Saints book packages and some of the things that they're 251 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: going to give them with chreas nap looks. Either beating 252 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line or forcing them to jump early 253 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: and draw penalties is going to be a big part 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: of this game. Well, that's certainly the hope, you know. 255 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the hope in any game that you 256 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: know you can take advantage of that. But certainly that's 257 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of the game plan. I'm sure. 258 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, as the Saints defensive coordinator, has been doing 259 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a really sort of one of the most under the 260 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: radar phenomenal jobs in the league. Actually since weeks four 261 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: of last season, so a full calendar season. The Saints 262 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: of the number one defense in the NFL and points allowed, 263 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: number two in yards allowed, and it's something they've really 264 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: taken to heart this year. With Drew Brees retired, this 265 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: defense was to be the identity of this team. So 266 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: they hope that the game plays out that way, but 267 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't always work that way. It's just one 268 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: a game in New England. They won a game with 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Packers fans in Jacksonville earlier this year, 270 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: and the Giants famously didn't score forty nine points in 271 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: the Super and almost eight years ago, two to forty nine. 272 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that game. Yes, the Kai four bath 273 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: game winning fifty yard field goal bike, Yes, we know 274 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: that very well. When Eli Manning and Drew Brees combined 275 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: for thirteen touchdowns. It's one of those notable games that 276 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you tend not to forget given all the time that 277 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: has passed by. But on a more serious note, you 278 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: brought up how well the defense has played under Dennis Allen. Well, 279 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: let's at least look at the three games thus far. 280 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: The two numbers that jump out to me third in 281 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: points per game allowed, They're only given up fourteen a game. 282 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: And then maybe the more impressive number, Mike is turnover differential. 283 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: They're tied for first. They've been extremely opportunistic. How much 284 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: has the defensive plays that have really changed field position 285 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: wound up helping the offense and shortening the field on 286 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: the opposite side of the ball. Well, it was especially 287 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: huge in this last game. You know, in the in 288 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: the first game where they beat Green Bay thirty eight 289 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: to three, might end up being the stunner of the 290 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: season when all of a sudden done another Green Bays 291 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: back on track. But you know they were kind of 292 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: piling on in that game when the turnovers started to come. 293 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: But it was really important this last week in New 294 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: England because that game was pretty close until the defense 295 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: started really putting it to bed. It was the first 296 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: I remembers the first or second play coming out a 297 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: halftime where Malcolm Jenkins returned an interception for a touchdown, 298 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and that really changed the tone of the game completely. 299 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: At that's what they are. I mean, they're an aggressive, 300 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: opportunistic defensive secondary in particular that's listening to get his 301 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: hands on balls. Marshawn Lottimore than number one cornerback, has 302 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: been really good for a while, but he's playing probably 303 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: as well as he ever has. The same with linebacker 304 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: to Mario Davis. There's just a lot of talent in 305 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: each level of this defense that causes problems. You know 306 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: what makes that scary to me? They're doing this at 307 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: a high level. And Tom Jordan hasn't had a sack yet. 308 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of quarterback, but he hasn't had 309 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: a sack yet. To me, not what worrying me? I 310 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: follow an offensive coordinator, Yeah, he's overdue. You know, the 311 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: Giants will be fortunate that they're still missing I mean 312 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: long term, you know, there are other defensive end Marcus 313 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: devon Or is really talented, and he's gonna miss at 314 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: least one more week on in injured reserve, so he 315 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: won't be part of this game. Their standout defensive tackle, 316 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: David Onumata, is suspended right now. He's missing the first 317 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: six games of this season. So it really is impressive 318 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: that they're doing this not at full strength. Well, speaking 319 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: of that, I mean, you just named two impactful players. 320 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: What do you attribute then to what Dennis Allen has 321 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: been able to do or just the reflection of the 322 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: overall depth chart, Mike, that they've been able to overcome 323 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: some of these injuries and suspensions that have piled up 324 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: early in the season. Yeah, we thought. I thought that 325 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: the defense was probably in line to take a step 326 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: back this year. They also had to replace their number 327 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: two quarterback, Generous Jenkins, that they let go in free agency. 328 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: They lost their top three defensive tackles from last season, 329 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and I mean this is sort of evidence of the 330 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: players saying, look, it's a culture, it's a system, and 331 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: they can move some parts in. I mean, it really 332 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: starts with the fact that they just had so much 333 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: talent to begin with. I mentioned Marshawn lattimartin Marrow Davis. 334 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: You guys mentioned Cameron Jordan's, but you know, maybe the 335 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: most depth at safety in the league. Marcus Williams is 336 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: an excellent free safety. Malcolm Jenkins and C. J. Gardner 337 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Johnson as the other two safeties. You know, it's it's 338 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: a combination of a really great coaching staff and and 339 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: still a lot of talent on the sea. I'm seeing 340 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: on offense more reliance on Camara on the ground as 341 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: opposed to in the passing game. And quite honestly, it 342 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: also looked like they're really restricting a lot of what 343 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: they're asking Winston do because they know that when they 344 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: do that, he could turnover machine. Well, I think that's 345 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: all true. You know, Winston, they'd love in a dream 346 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: scenario to have a combination of restricting the chances he's taking, 347 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: so he's not getting a lot of turnovers that could 348 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: be avoided, but still letting him take those shots down 349 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: the field which were not obviously a big part of 350 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the offense in Drew Breezes later years. Already in Week one, 351 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Winston through the fifty five yard touchdown passed Deanta Harris, 352 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: so they don't want him just shy away from taking 353 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: those shots when he has and they just don't want 354 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: the unnecessary risk. And so far it's been a pretty 355 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: good combination. I think we're all surprised though, that Winston 356 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: is only throwing like twenty past attempts at game, is 357 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: only throwing for you know, barely over a hundred yards 358 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: of game. I don't expect that to continue all your line. 359 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: I think some of that is the game scripts they've 360 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: been involved in. Two of the games, they've been up 361 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: big and they've been trying to run out the clot 362 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: The other game they were just getting decimated by Carolina's 363 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: defense and couldn't get a pass off. So it's been 364 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: three kind of unusual games so far. But you're right 365 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: about Alvin Tamara. I think they'd love to have him 366 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: more heavily involved in the passing game. It's something he's 367 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: always done. But that's something Drew Brees is really good at. 368 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: It's not a big part of James history, so he's 369 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: still learning to embrace those checkdown throws to the running back. 370 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: In the meantime, they're getting the ball and Comara's answers 371 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: a running back, does they know he is by far 372 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and away the most special player on their offense. We're 373 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: talking with Mike Triplett, who covers the Saints for ESPN. 374 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point, Mike, about game flow 375 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: and how that has impacted Jamis Winston's numbers, because it's 376 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: unusual to see a Saints offense rank thirty one in 377 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the NFL and passing yards per game given what Drew 378 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Brees and company have been able to accomplish. But as 379 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: far as the risk reward type of management that they're 380 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: walking with Jamis Winston, I want to go back to 381 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: the play in the last game against New England where 382 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: he's being brought down right and he throws up a 383 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: prayer and Marquez Callaway goes up to make the touchdown. 384 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: What was Sean Payton's reaction to that play and how 385 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: much is that maybe an example Mike that Jamis is 386 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: still having a tough time digesting what they're asking him 387 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: to do well. That one was obviously a big topic 388 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: of discussion. If people haven't seen this play, I recommend 389 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: they check it out. I mean, Jameis Winston has is 390 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: famously known for risk reward, but this might be about 391 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: as much of a risk reward throws he's ever made. 392 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: He is literally halfway down to the ground with somebody 393 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: sacking him when he decides, you know what, I still 394 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna throw this ball anyway, And he credited 395 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: God's plan for or was Gallerie come down with that? 396 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, when we dissected it further, you know, Winston 397 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: insisted that he was confident he was either throwing it 398 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: away or putting it only in the back of the 399 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: end somewhere his receiver to go get it. I don't 400 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: know if that's an under percent true, And Sean Payton 401 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: made it clear that those are not the kind of 402 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: chances we want you taking unless you're absolutely sure that's 403 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing, that only your receiver you can get 404 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: the ball. But you know, it's a rare case of 405 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: where this one worked out. But they don't want They 406 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: made it clear they don't want to see too much 407 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Yolo in his game, you know, like just a little 408 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: while earlier, Lance referred to the Bridge Manning game that 409 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: was like a pinball machine. The points were just coming 410 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork. That game was decided by a 411 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: special teams penalty, which allowed four bath to kick the 412 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: field goal to beat the Giant. How likely your special 413 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: teams to have an impact on this one? Yeah, Look, 414 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I always expect most games to be one score games 415 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's it's strange that the Saints haven't 416 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: been that way so far this season because that's usually 417 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the nature of the NFL, and that has been a 418 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: key to the success. I mean the Saints. They do 419 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: have the best record in the NFL in the regular 420 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: season over the last five years, and part of it 421 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: is because they've invested heavily special teams. They blocked a 422 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: punt just this last week at New England, which helped 423 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: them survive the fact that their kicker right now is 424 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Alder Gross, who obviously you guys are familiar with, and 425 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: he's a temporary fill in for their kicker Will Lutz, 426 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: who's um injured reserve right now, and he missed two 427 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: field goals at New England and he's still with the 428 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: team this week, which I didn't know was going to 429 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: be the case, to be honest, but you have to 430 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: those two misses. So that's going to be important that 431 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: he shows in this game that that that was a 432 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: one week blip and that they can trust him to 433 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: make Siebels, because I think all that stuff is gonna matter. Certainly, 434 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the way the Giants games have been played out of 435 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: him and one score games, they have been one play 436 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the game games and they've come 437 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: down to kicking. So I think that's well documented, there's 438 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Speaking of injuries and players filling in, 439 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: I think Mike, one of the most overlooked storylines with 440 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: the Saints, given the fact that the offensive line has 441 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: been such a staple to this offense, is how they've 442 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: had to sort of play the game of musical chairs 443 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: in the early stages of the season. So, from what 444 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: I understand now, left tackle Toronto Armsteads out with the 445 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: elbow injury, they've already had to fill in for center 446 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Eric McCoy with the calf injury. How has this offensive 447 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: line held up? And how concerning is it now that 448 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: they have multiple starters and we're not just talking about starters, 449 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: were talking about Pro Bowl, all pro type of players 450 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: here exactly, right, Toronto Offerson might be the best player 451 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: on the team, but he's certainly in the top three, 452 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: top four, and so he will be missed down. They 453 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: have a veteran backup that James Hurst, who has done 454 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: a really good job whenever called upon, including last week, 455 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: they've been a little touch and gown without Eric McCoy 456 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: had center. It's not completely out of the question that 457 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: he comes back this week, but seems a little unlikely. 458 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: And you know, that was a big part of their 459 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: struggles in Carolina was when they moved Caesar Release over 460 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: to center. They had some protection call issues because that 461 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: is something he hadn't worked on a lot. And so 462 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: as well as they've done in two of their wins 463 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: with their backup offensive linemen filling in, it definitely, you know, 464 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: he's a key to the game each time until they're 465 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: back to full strength. Absolutely, especially since the Giants is 466 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: still trying to ignite their pass rush. He is ESPN 467 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter for the Saints, Mike Triplet. Mike can't 468 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: thank you enough. We greatly appreciate the time of the 469 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: insight and enjoy Sunday's game. Thanks again, thanks for having 470 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: that's Mike Triplet from ESPN. Don't forget to take in 471 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: all the action in New York Giants football from your 472 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: very own private Sweet Giants sweets are a great way 473 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: to entertain your family and friends while rooting on your 474 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Giants right here in MetLife Stadium. Speak with the Giant 475 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: sweet up now by calling eight n y G All right, 476 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with the head coach of the 477 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: New York Giants, Joe Judge. Bob Pop had a chance 478 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: to talk to him, as always were joined by the 479 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: head coach each of the New York Giants, Joe Judge. 480 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Giants down in New Orleans take on the Saints and coach. 481 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: When you take a look at this team, you know, 482 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody thinks of the Saints. I think of Sean Payton's offense, 483 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: and you kind of think Drew Brees. Their defensive numbers 484 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: jump off the board at you. Um, they've played great 485 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: defense this year would have been some of the keys 486 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: to them defensively. Well, I think they have really good personnel. 487 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: First off, they have talent on all three levels, the front, 488 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: the back, of the secondary. I think what they do 489 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: is they get on you and they get after you. 490 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: They're very aggressive with the pass rush way. That's the 491 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: fore man front where they play their odds structure, you know, 492 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: where they get dvs on your man. They play a 493 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: tight match zone that there's enough that they do to 494 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: make you have to prepare for it, and for them, 495 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: it's a lot more of the same. So they play 496 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: what they play. They know how to cover and notw 497 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: to match it. They stopped to run very aggressively. They 498 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: have a penetrating defensive front. They really do a nice 499 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: job up front. That really kind of sets the tone 500 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: for anything else. To me, the experience on the back end, 501 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: especially those safeties, really carries over and how they play. 502 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: They don't give a lot of big plays. You really 503 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: got you're ready to grind it out against this team. 504 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's been several of the apples of teams 505 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: playing this team and really making mistakes and giving it away. 506 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: And there's been all examples team grinding out and doing 507 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: the right way, you know, coming through the right way 508 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: by how they play the game. You know, last week 509 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins gets a pick six um, But it kind 510 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: of circles back to your team being able to make plays. 511 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the ball was pretty much handed to him. 512 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: John O. Smith batted it up. But those are the 513 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: kind of fifty fifty plays during the course of the 514 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: game that you just have to make in order to 515 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: win or lose in this league. Yeah, you know, when 516 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: the play comes your way, you'd be prepared to make it. 517 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: And that's where I gots practiced four and obviously what 518 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: they practiced four as well. You know, it was a 519 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: good job last week of Jenkins being prepared for and 520 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: you know Smith mishandled that ball and he took advantage 521 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: of it, you know, and that's not something he had 522 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to fabricate. He was in coverage, he was trailing the 523 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: receiver right there, and when the ball bounced his way, 524 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: he took advantage of it. You know, we preached our 525 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: players all time, stay aggress of our techniques, make aggressive 526 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: breaks and look, there's gonna be some past breakups, interceptions. 527 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: When the ball comes away, we gotta make the play. 528 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: When you look at their offense, obviously, um you know, 529 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it's stat wise, but they're averaging more 530 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: rushing yards a game than they are passing one twenty 531 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: and rushing the game one third team pass in the ball. 532 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Camara is such a huge factor and everything that they 533 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: do what makes him so good. Well, I'd say, first off, 534 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: just as a team in general, really, when you go back, 535 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: everyone thinks about passing because the breeze and Peyton, the 536 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: connection they've had there. When you look at this offense 537 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: over Seawan's tenure, it's a running offense. And that doesn't 538 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: mean they're exclusively run, but they're very balanced and they 539 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: use the run to set the passing game. They're very 540 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: controlled and how they do it very calculated. They do 541 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: a good job. Now you throw it a Camara in there. 542 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: This guy's one of best players in the league. And 543 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: you can talk about the physical attributes, his contact balance, 544 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: his speed. He's a lot stronger, I think sometimes and 545 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: people assume because he plays so much in space, you 546 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: can associate that with more a finesse player. He's absolutely 547 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: not that all. He's very tough, he runs with power, 548 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: he's got great vision. This guy is so multiple and 549 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: how they use them. First off, the line up all 550 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: over the phillis the second most motion player in the 551 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: last few years in the Nation Football League. And they 552 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: do that a lot of times to make you guess 553 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: and find them, and other times they do it to 554 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: create matchups and expose you down the field. So these 555 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: guys that got the ability to line up in a 556 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: backfield and run the ball downhill. He's got the ability 557 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: to be an emotion guy and get the edge on you. 558 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: He's got to build a line up as a slot 559 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: receiver and run those little choice routes underneath, and you 560 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: can go ahead and outside of the speed and take 561 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: the top all first of mismatch, so they move them 562 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: all around. You've got to know where he is at 563 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: all times. Uh. He's obviously the catalyst for their offense, 564 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: but they have a lot of talent around him. The 565 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: other weapons show up in time, but you've got to 566 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: handle for do you want to have success against his team? 567 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: You guys have moved the ball, uh pretty consistently throughout 568 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: the course of the season. It's finishing now. Their red 569 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: zone defense is second in the NFL at thirty. What 570 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: are some of the things that you guys have to 571 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: do better once you get into that red zone area 572 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: in order to turn some of these trips into touchdowns. 573 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: It's all about execution, and we have to eliminate things 574 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: that take us away from the actually have success, and 575 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: we can't get down the red zone and have any 576 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: kind of turnover or negative player. You've got to keep 577 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: the sticks moving forward. You've gotta make sure you can 578 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: score seven anytime you have a penalty on the drive. 579 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Greatly reduced your your chance of a touchdown or any 580 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: kind of points in general. But in the red area penalties, 581 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: loss yards, negative plays. That turns seven into three pretty fast. 582 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: And we gotta make sure we keep moving the ball forward, 583 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: that we make positive plays, we stay ahead of the sticks, 584 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: and against a team like this, you can't afford to 585 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: have misques down there. And is that where the running 586 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: game comes in? You know, uh, being able to run 587 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: the football when you get into that red zone opens 588 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: up than a lot of other things as you get 589 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: deeper into the drive. Yeah, because the space is so restricted, 590 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the coverages are a lot tougher to beat down in 591 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the red zone. There's more dvs all over. It's easier 592 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: to match, easier to hide what you're doing because the 593 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: space doesn't expose where the safeties are going, necessarily where 594 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: the backs are dropping to. So it gets difficult the 595 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: lower you get in the red zone to throw the 596 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: ball in. You always think you're closer to the goal line. 597 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: It's gotta be easier. It actually gets more difficult to 598 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: read the coverages, know who's matched up, and really find 599 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: the right matchup. If you can run the ball, that 600 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: fins out the coverage because they have to play more 601 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: people to the box into the line of scrimmage, and 602 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: that gives you a better view over top of how 603 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: the safeties and corners are playing and where your matchups 604 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: really are. So you want to be bouncing the red area. 605 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: The run game is definitely the key way to score. 606 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll say this. You know, obviously we want to run 607 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: the ball in all parts of the field. You look 608 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: at this team right here, they get to the low 609 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: right area. This is a run first team. They're looking 610 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: to run the ball into a red area which is 611 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: inside the five yard and that tight red area for us, 612 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: they're looking to run in. Whether it's with a running 613 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: back all right or Taysom Hill, they're gonna look a 614 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: pound that thing in coach final question. Obviously, it's gonna 615 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: be pretty emotional down there. Saints playing in their building 616 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: for the first time. Obviously they played on the road 617 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: in Week one or it was a home game, but 618 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: they played in Jacksonville and then with no fans last year. 619 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: How do you um get your team ready for that 620 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: that environment, especially early in the game. Well, I think 621 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: you have to start early in the week with explaining 622 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: what the environment's gonna be and this isn't a situation 623 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: where you have to go down there and to be 624 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: intimidated because there's people yelling. But you have to understand 625 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: that there is an operation of the game that you 626 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: have to account for that this noise level will be deafening, 627 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: so you have to incorporate things in practice. We always 628 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: incorporate some kind of noise, but now this week it 629 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: was deafening levels of noise. You know, we just cranked 630 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: up with speaker as loud as they could, put the 631 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: offense right next to it, put the defense next. With 632 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: a certain situations, obviously, don't expect the as a lot 633 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: of defense on the field. We're gonna make everything harder 634 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: and practice and is in the game, and we want 635 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: to just make sure we forced the communication and really 636 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: we get to the players. Is carry over. We've got 637 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: to do the talking and the meetings. We have to 638 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: get on the same page in the meetings, so when 639 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: you hit the field, you're not rely on having a conversation. 640 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: On the field. You can go ahead and know what's 641 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: coming up. You can go ahead and know what you're 642 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: gonna check with certain types of motions or formations and 643 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: play on the same page. So the best way you 644 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: can simulate it is by playing the game. You know, 645 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: we did a lot of things this week to go 646 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: ahead simulate best we could. Obviously we're not in a dome, 647 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: we're not in there with a packed house, but we 648 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: use what we had available to us to make sure 649 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: we made it tough on the players. Coach, best of 650 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: luck this afternoon. I appreciate us. That's Giants, said coach 651 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Joe Judge. We thank him, We thank Mike Triple. We 652 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: think take Crowder for joining us on this ultimate preview 653 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: of Giants and Saints down in the super Dome. 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