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Speaker 1: an extra time in the building today, you know, going

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Speaker 1: over some of the things we're looking at now. He's

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Speaker 1: a grinder and he wants to get better. Do you

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Speaker 1: think is there a sense for me, like amongst the

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Speaker 1: guys that knowing you know Deshan will be back the

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Speaker 1: following game, that let's let's do this for Jacoby. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's given everything he could possibly give this team,

434
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Speaker 1: as many others have. But he is, as you said,

435
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Speaker 1: so likable, such a leader, and you know, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see him go out on a high note. What

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Speaker 1: before de Sean takes over. Yeah, I mean I don't.

438
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Speaker 1: Jacoby is such a big part of this team from

439
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Speaker 1: a leadership fabric um. The guys fight like crazy for him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they want to see him succeed. Uh. We need

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Speaker 1: to get this win for about a thousand different reasons,

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Speaker 1: and and you know number one being that that's that's

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Speaker 1: what we work our our tails off for. So that's

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Speaker 1: the focus. We'll get the same guy that we get

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Speaker 1: every week with Jacobe, The same guy will be walking

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Speaker 1: in this building tomorrow ready to get started. On our

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Speaker 1: preparation for this Sunday. How do we get the ground

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Speaker 1: game going again? What have penned teams done schematically or

449
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Speaker 1: has it been has it been more of us? It's

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Speaker 1: always a combination of things. And you know, I look

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Speaker 1: at what we can do schematically because there's there's no

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Speaker 1: shortage of plays and play types, there's no shortage of

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Speaker 1: personnels and different motions and you name it. So we

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Speaker 1: got make sure. I got to make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: pushing the right buttons, putting the right uh play types,

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Speaker 1: up putting the right formations on all those things, just

457
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Speaker 1: to give our guys success. And we've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of success. We've run into some good run defenses. That's

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Speaker 1: the other thing. I mean, you give credits where credit

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Speaker 1: is do We've run into some good defenses. We probably

461
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Speaker 1: haven't played as well as we can upfront, as well

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Speaker 1: as I've seen us play up front. So that's the

463
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Speaker 1: challenge for us. UM. I like our guys. I like

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Speaker 1: what we're doing this week, but it's not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's another formidable front this week, and it's just

466
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Speaker 1: a matter of of running it just a little bit

467
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Speaker 1: better than we have the last cup, all right, turn

468
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Speaker 1: it to the other side. Tom Brady come into town. Obviously,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, many would say the greatest of all time

470
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Speaker 1: and certainly could be his last time in Cleveland. Still

471
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Speaker 1: playing at a high level, even at his age, which

472
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Speaker 1: is stunning. What challenges do they present as an offense

473
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball and also feels like that we're getting

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Speaker 1: Rashod White involved. They're trying to run it a little more,

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Speaker 1: and we know that's that's given us some problems in

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Speaker 1: recent weeks. Yeah, they're they're running it a little more.

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're gonna I'm sure going to try

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Speaker 1: to run it versus us. I know that they're going

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Speaker 1: to test our run defense. Um, So, so that's something

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Speaker 1: that is always gonna be a focus for us. And

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Speaker 1: then with you know this quarterback, you're not gonna fool him.

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Speaker 1: There's no disguise that he hasn't seen in his career.

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Speaker 1: He gets the ball out extremely fast, and it's out,

484
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Speaker 1: it's out on time, and it's out accurately. So that

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Speaker 1: presents a different set of challenges in the coverage game.

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Speaker 1: So we gotta put together a plan where we can

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Speaker 1: obviously limit their run game and then find ways to

488
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Speaker 1: limit their explosive pass game, because that's they've they've really

489
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Speaker 1: leaned on that over Tom's time down there. Being able

490
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Speaker 1: to spread the ball around to their playmakers really from

491
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers to the tight ends to the running backs.

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Speaker 1: They certainly do. And you know, it's interesting you look

493
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Speaker 1: at our defense and there's been a lot of talk

494
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Speaker 1: about it, but it feels like they set out to

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Speaker 1: do something in a given week and they've accomplished that.

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Speaker 1: You go back to the Chargers game. You limit them

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Speaker 1: throwing the football, limit justin Herbert. You go to the

498
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Speaker 1: Ravens game, Mark Andrews has no catches. You limit our

499
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Speaker 1: Jackson and really limit their running game. You go last

500
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago, Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle half below

501
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: half their season average. Last week, Stefon Diggs limited. You know,

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Speaker 1: you keep allan under two yards. There are things that

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Speaker 1: are happening very positively on the defense. How do you

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Speaker 1: get the whole picture. It feels like whatever that top

505
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Speaker 1: priority is is being addressed, But sometimes it's the other

506
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Speaker 1: guys that are coming through and beating us. Yeah, I

507
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Speaker 1: mean the bottom line is we need winning performances and

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Speaker 1: the things you just mentioned are all true, but we

509
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Speaker 1: gotta do whatever it takes to win those games. And um,

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Speaker 1: obviously you can't stop one thing and you know, get

511
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Speaker 1: really hurt by another. So that's really the focus. I know.

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Speaker 1: The run game is something that we're going to continue

513
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Speaker 1: to look at and and find ways to stop the run.

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Speaker 1: It's something you can make it real complicated, uh and

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Speaker 1: talk about different fronts and different coverages, different blitzes, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And you can also talk about we just gotta do it.

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Speaker 1: We gotta fit, We have to fit our gaps, we

518
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Speaker 1: gotta tackle, we gotta run to the ball. Um. So

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Speaker 1: that's the focus. I know. The players are keen on

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Speaker 1: on on stop in the run and being able to

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Speaker 1: to play our best, and the coaches are keen on

522
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Speaker 1: putting it together a game plan that gives our guys

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Speaker 1: a chance. Have we've seen the shift in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is, you know, and

525
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Speaker 1: getting ready for a lot of our games to do

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Speaker 1: the you know, the broadcast most teams have. It feels

527
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Speaker 1: like now a three thirty three forty, a couple of

528
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Speaker 1: three twenties in the interior. We're lighter than that, and

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Speaker 1: that's how we were designed obviously where you max out

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Speaker 1: at about three pounds. Is that something that maybe is

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Speaker 1: a shift. It's like the league goes one way, you

532
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Speaker 1: get lighter and faster. It's about space and then all

533
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, well, now teams are starting to be

534
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Speaker 1: more physical in the trenches up the middle, and it's

535
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Speaker 1: gonna shift back or is it just a strange coincidence

536
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Speaker 1: that's happened this year with us? Well, I don't. You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, and that things change over the course of

538
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Speaker 1: even looks back three years, just different things offensively, defensively.

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Speaker 1: Schemes change, schemes come in, schemes go away. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about cover to last year, how

541
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Speaker 1: that had been gone it feels like for ten years,

542
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Speaker 1: and then it came back. Uh. Simulated pressures were a

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Speaker 1: big thing in the last couple of years on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side. So certainly, scheme and personnel are constantly changing. UM,

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Speaker 1: and that is our job as coaches. We we we got

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we don't miss anything. That's something

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Speaker 1: I always talk to the coaches about. What you don't

548
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Speaker 1: want to do is look back and say, man, I

549
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Speaker 1: missed that that trend. I missed that evolution, and you're

550
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Speaker 1: trying to stay ahead of that game. And and and

551
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Speaker 1: you know, specifically to the offense, you're looking for good

552
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: ideas from high school, college, it doesn't matter. You're looking

553
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Speaker 1: for what people are doing in the game, uh, to

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Speaker 1: make yourself difficult to defend. So that's certainly true specifically

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Speaker 1: to the defense. You know, we know we have to

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Speaker 1: play better. Um, we we understand that and looking at it.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be plenty of time to to look at

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Speaker 1: it in total. But really for me, for us, for

559
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Speaker 1: our defense, for our players, we want to play good

560
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Speaker 1: football on Sunday. We want to find a way to

561
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Speaker 1: go one and know this week absolutely coach, we'll get

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Speaker 1: you out of here on this one. A little more fun. Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: What's your number one go to and what's the most

564
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Speaker 1: overrated food on Thanksgiving in your opinion? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't discriminate. I just I just load the play

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Speaker 1: it up and and whatever is on there, I'm taking um.

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Speaker 1: In terms of overrated, I don't know that you could

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Speaker 1: call anything on Thanksgiving overrated. All of it is properly rated.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for it. Overrated, now stop it? So

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Speaker 1: I we only have it once a year. If it

571
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Speaker 1: was that good, you have turkey all the time you

572
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Speaker 1: go to find dining, there be turkey. That's blasphemous, Coach.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate time. Enjoy your turkey on Thanksgiving. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: will probably more than me. Good luck on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: hopefully get a big win over those bucks. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. And Happy Thanksgiving everybody out there. Thanks, Happy Thanksgiving. Coach.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more than Kevin Stefanski show on

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Speaker 1: Denzel Award. This is Brown's wide receiver, Donovan people Jones.

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Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network. University Hospitals is your hometown

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Speaker 1: the game. Welcome back to the Kevin Stefanski Show here

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Speaker 1: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network. Nathan's a

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Speaker 1: Girl along with Ken Carmen in for Draad Cherry tonight earlier,

593
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Speaker 1: I was able to catch up with the Brown's defensive

594
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Speaker 1: end Chase Winovich. Take a listen Chase. First of all,

595
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Speaker 1: how good was it to get back out there on

596
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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I felt really great to be back

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Speaker 1: out there. Of course, Uh, losing is never fun, and

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Speaker 1: that's you know, the biggest thing for me is just

599
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Speaker 1: helping us find a way to win. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: this week's a new week. So for you, what's kind

601
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Speaker 1: of like this season been like trying to rehab, trying

602
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Speaker 1: to get back, trying to get out there. The hamstring

603
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: comes up again and then you know you're set back

604
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Speaker 1: and you finally had that goal right to get back

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Speaker 1: on the field, and finally we're able to do it

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Speaker 1: in the great state of Michigan. No less. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: funny how that works in terms of this how the

608
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Speaker 1: game ended up you know, in Detroit of all places. However, Yeah,

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00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: this season has been super frustrating with dealing with injuries

610
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Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like not once, but twice, uh, you know,

611
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Speaker 1: having to go through the process, so you know three times,

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Speaker 1: just like time after time after time, just like just

613
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Speaker 1: keep attacking it and especially with it being the same injury.

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Speaker 1: But that is the nature of the sport, and that

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Speaker 1: is the nature of life. It's like that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a constant. You know. It's like there's gonna be hardship,

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of work, um, and there's

618
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Speaker 1: just gonna be challenges that you've got to overcome. And

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Speaker 1: being you know, coming from my culture, you know, the Serbians,

620
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: we've been through a lot and uh, we've got to

621
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Speaker 1: find a way to persevere. And you know, just being

622
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Speaker 1: back out there, you know, just just feeling and out

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Speaker 1: with my teammates and suiting up in uniforms and and

624
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Speaker 1: and and playing fast and just trying to give the

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Speaker 1: game the respect it deserves has been. Uh, has been

626
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. How great was it when you

627
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Speaker 1: finally were out there. You get a nice pressure on

628
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen force him to make an Aaron throw and

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Speaker 1: I can tell from all the way up in the

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Speaker 1: booth that you were pretty fired up about that play. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: that felt that felt so great. I just feel like

632
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Speaker 1: there's there's been so much as part of my journey,

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Speaker 1: just going all the way back to last year get

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Speaker 1: you know, with dealing with injuries and surgery and getting

635
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Speaker 1: traded and more injuries and uh, just adversity. I just

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Speaker 1: felt like, uh, you know, in a sense, my soul

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Speaker 1: was tried, and to get back out there and have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to have, you know, to execute on a

639
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: game with my my teammate Taven Brian just setting up

640
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: a you know, a beautiful pick stunt and just feeling

641
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: the the play out and then on a on a

642
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: big third down, uh, you know, interfering with the his

643
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: ability to throw the ball, and uh, it was just great, man,

644
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: it felt really good. I love the smile on your

645
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: face right now as you're going through because I know

646
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: how much this means to you. And you're a very

647
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: not just only a passionate football player, but you're very

648
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: um introspective and very kind of I would say, very

649
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: mentally deep guy. That's how I was emotionally deep. So

650
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I know that there's you probably thought about that, you

651
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: probably visual lies and then he went out there were

652
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: able to do it, which was great. Now I just

653
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: want to get that sack because I want to see

654
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna produce. Half of that sac I don't

655
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: even know if you know what it's gonna be, it's

656
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna be great. I definitely don't know what I'm gonna produce,

657
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: but I've given it some thought. I just ultimately decided

658
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: it's like whatever whatever expression comes out of me in

659
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: that moment is uh, is going to be the most genuine.

660
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: But uh, definitely putting way more thought into how I

661
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: can get there and and really what it comes down

662
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: to is just taking care of the little things. There's

663
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: a there's a quote it's like, you know, brilliance in

664
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: the basics, and uh, it's not not necessarily sexy to

665
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: get a lot of sleep or or hydrate or you know,

666
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: go through all this like prep work that uh, you

667
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: know that I've been doing just in terms of like

668
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: my body and stuff. But it's gonna pay off, and

669
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: that's that's my belief. At least it will pay off.

670
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: And wouldn't it be nice if you were able to

671
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: sack Tom Brady in his last game, most likely in Cleveland.

672
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Little history there for you, and that's who comes to

673
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: town this Sunday. Yeah, that'd be pretty fun. It'll be

674
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: pretty fun. I'm looking forward to the opportunity for sure.

675
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: I saw that we were playing the box and I

676
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: just like you said earlier about me getting a smile

677
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: on my face. It was one of those moments I

678
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, all right, here it is. Let's cool.

679
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: What was kind of that history you were together your

680
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: rookie year, right, Yeah, we spent our rookie year together,

681
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: but he was a Michigan guy, and uh so I

682
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: just think that like it sounds uh, it's an interesting thought.

683
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: It's just like I think, you know, we definitely have

684
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: a spiritual connection. It's like, you know, he's like he's

685
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: my brother. I love that guy. He's uh he's a

686
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: great human and uh he taught me a lot about

687
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: football in life, and uh yeah, so I'm looking forward

688
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: to playing playing him though. So you know, it's a different,

689
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: different thing when you're out there on the field together.

690
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, trying to win. So absolutely it

691
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: being in the Dragon, it's perfect. He's got it all Um,

692
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: it would be awesome, and that'll be a big one,

693
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, coming right after Thanksgiving. I'm sure you're thankful

694
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: to be back. That would be a great one for

695
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: you to get and I know that would be fun.

696
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: All Right. I gotta ask you about something. I was

697
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: walking out before we do this interview. I was by

698
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: your locker. You have, uh signed Anakin Skywalker card from

699
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Attack of the Clothes. What's the deal with that? Yeah,

700
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty big Star Wars fans. Same and uh

701
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I saw that in a shop and I was like,

702
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: sign Anakin Skywalker. It's like one of ten. So I'm

703
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily a card expert, but I'd say between that

704
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: and uh, the five piece of Exodia that I have

705
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: in my house, it's like amazing. Anytime I show like, uh,

706
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to me because what you said. You

707
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: said five pieces of what? Yeah, all five pieces of

708
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: exodia p S A ten, Yeah, p s A ten

709
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: and one of the Probably it's obviously a big deal.

710
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Tavan Bryan's in trying that. This is my point. Yeah,

711
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: that's crazy, bro, That's that's what is it? What is it?

712
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: What are the five pieces of Zodia Basically it's of

713
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Exodia is the name. So it's like you have the

714
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: two legs, the two arms, and then the head and

715
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: so the goal is to like get all five during

716
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: a match, and I don't even know what happens. It's

717
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: just like ultimately destruction. But it's a legendary like collection

718
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: in like in terms of like and what game, what world?

719
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: What card? YEA, Yeah, maybe you're speaking a different language

720
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: that I'm familiar with, but Davin Ryan knows it, so

721
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: that's I don't actively they play it or anything, but

722
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: it was. It's a very like nostalgic piece for sure.

723
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: And it's like interesting because like guys, like dudes, especially

724
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: like around my age that see it, they're like, oh

725
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: my god, they freak out. But like any person of

726
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: that that I'm older, that's exactly any person Like the females,

727
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: though they don't seem to be very impressed by the

728
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: under the five pieces of Actonia no I hate. They're like,

729
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. Like my sisters

730
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, that he's nothing to me. But guys

731
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: like they freak out. Well, well, certain things that you

732
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: apply to certain demographics, other things you apply to other demographics.

733
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Let's go back to this Anakin, because you know, hat

734
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: and Christiansen got a lot of grief. People said that

735
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: he was awful in those films. What do you say

736
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: to that. I just think they're haters, you know, I

737
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: just think they're haters. I I personally, I like those

738
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: films a lot um you know, I mean obviously, like

739
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: he's not Leonardo DiCaprio. It's like there's only one exactly.

740
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: It's like, so it kind of is what it is

741
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: in that regard. I personally was a fan of his

742
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: performance and those movies in general. And uh yeah, so

743
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: I think that, uh that card, you know, it brings

744
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: me some good luck. It's it's helped me get back

745
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: in the field for sure. Alright, good, all right, give

746
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: me your top three and you can go from anywhere

747
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: in the Star Wars universe or top three Star Wars films,

748
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: Top three Star Wars films. I'm just kind of like

749
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: the original six. Uh, the original six. You gotta throw

750
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: three out, three out. It's funny because the card is

751
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: from episode episode Yeah, uh so I would say, uh,

752
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I'd say three six three six four the original It's

753
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: tough and far strikes Back's a fine film too. It's

754
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: just not as satisfying. But it's a good movie. It's

755
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: a good movie. It's it's not it's not as satisfying.

756
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but it's a it's a respective movie.

757
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: Fewer ever said that you could play any character in

758
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: the Star Wars universe, who would you be? I feel

759
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: like you could be a great Han Solo Orlando Calorisian.

760
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Uh yeah, Han Solo probably. I

761
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: think I think that makes no sense to be more

762
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: of like a philosophical Han Solo. Yeah, yeah, no, that

763
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: would be fun to just like be the bad boy

764
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: in that sense, just like Rom in the universe. You know,

765
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: I got my my mate with me. You know, you'd

766
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: also be like a pretty sweet Yoda, because you're like

767
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: very deep, very zen, very philosophical, Like you'd be like

768
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: the biggest Yoda. But I think you'd be a pretty

769
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: good Yoda. Like you train a lot of young Jedis,

770
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: I think to follow your ways, and I think we'd

771
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: all be better for it. A very nice compliment, that is,

772
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: And there it is. Chase Winovic, Happy Thanksgiving, best of

773
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: luck on Sunday. Thank you so much. What a treat

774
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich. Always a great time to kind of take

775
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain of that man's mind and

776
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: understand how he operates on a daily basis. And boy,

777
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: sure would be great to see him. Get Tom Brady

778
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: on the ground this Sunday at First Energy Stadium, calling

779
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: it all out blitz or a hell Mary. Every play

780
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: probably won't win you too many games. And if taking

781
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: crazy risk can mean a loss in football, it can

782
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: mean even bigger trouble when gambling, So always know your

783
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: odds before you bet. For more tips like this, go

784
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Speaker 1: to Keep in Fun Ohio dot com. When we come back,

785
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: I go around the league with the great Ken Carmen.

786
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: It's the Kevin Stefanski Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland

787
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: Browns Radio Network. I feel like I have people in

788
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the building that can tell me the truth, and I

789
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: think that's really important because I don't want this to

790
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: be a place where I don't get the truth from

791
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: our guys. This is the Coach Kevin Stefanski Show. You're

792
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. The

793
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns in the US Marine Corps will host their

794
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: annual Browns give Back First Intent Toy Drive presented by

795
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: Electronic Merchant Systems to benefit Toys for Todds at First

796
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium prior to Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

797
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: Brown's fans are encouraged to bring new unwrapped gifts ten

798
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: dollars of more for kids in need within Cuyahoga County.

799
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: The US Marine Corps Electronic Merchant System volunteers will collect

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: items and monetary contributions that First Energy Stadium gates as

801
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: fans enter the stadium beginning at eleven a m. That

802
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: is this Sunday, Help out the kids who need it

803
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: in your community. Nathan Tzagura, Ken Carmen in for Gerode

804
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Charity to night. This is the Kevin Stefanski showing the

805
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland, Brown's radio network and Ken, It's time

806
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: to go around. The league will start with the twenty

807
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: eight semifinalists name for the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

808
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: and there is one name there that is of great

809
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: interest to us, and that is the half Joe Thomas,

810
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: a semifinalist along with Dwight Freenie, James Harrison, and Darrell

811
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Reeves to name a few of the first timers. What

812
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: do you think they're It felt like a formality to me.

813
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Talk to me when the half is inducted, which will

814
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: be the next step. Well, you know, it's so weird.

815
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: I feel weird talking about because I don't want to

816
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: jinx in. And I texted Joe was like, hey, how

817
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: do you feel about us talking about and he said

818
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: he's fine with it. You know what, whatever happens happens,

819
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: and it's not a matter to him. I just don't

820
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: want to jinxon or anything like that. I think clearly

821
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: is the first bout Hall of Famer. You think, clearly

822
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: he's the first bot Hall of Famer. But obviously we're

823
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: we're extremely partial to Joe. So I think that by

824
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: the time this comes around, where in January, I think,

825
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: will be in the Hall of Fame or February and

826
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: and that will be it, and and we'll get ready

827
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: for a nice celebration next August. But yes, we will.

828
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't want to feel like, well,

829
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: you guys talked about it now all of a sudden,

830
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: you can never tell with all these voters. I that's true.

831
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: And by the way us us talking about it, has

832
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: no bearing on the actual outcome. Now, his resume might

833
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: have a significant bearing on the outcome, and it is

834
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the resume six first Team All pros, Pro Bowl, ten

835
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: straight seasons to open his career, ten thousand, three sixty

836
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: three consecutive steps at all screens first ballot Hall of

837
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Famer just for process, though the group will be paired

838
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: down to fifteen finals before the final voting takes place

839
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: for next year's class. After a vote of the Hall

840
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: of Fame Selection Committee cuts that group to ten, a

841
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: final ballot is cast in a maximum of five players

842
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: can be elected with at least eight of those votes.

843
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: I feel, though, I'll tell you this, I'm sorry, I

844
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: feel that I don't know if the Committee's gonna put

845
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Darrell Rivas in the first time. I mean, I think

846
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: he should be. I do think he should. I always

847
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: had a respect for Darrell Rivas because a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys say it's not about the money, and he was

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Speaker 1: more than willing to say no, it's absolutely about the money.

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Speaker 1: And he played at an extremely high level. And so

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Speaker 1: there's always been a respect I've had for Darrell Reevs there.

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Speaker 1: But with the writers, I'm not sure if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: vote him in first ballot, and it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: slam dunk. I'm not sure about it. So he was,

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Speaker 1: and again this speaks to me. He was the most

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Speaker 1: dominant player at his position for a multi year stretch.

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Speaker 1: Seven Pro Bowls, four time All Pros, on the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame All Decades Team for the two thousand and tens.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a guy in two thousand and ninety.

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Speaker 1: He has three straight years where his first team All

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Speaker 1: Pro and a Pro Bowler. He's a Pro bowler in

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Speaker 1: six out of seven seasons at one point, with four

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Speaker 1: first teams. There. There was a year ken where he

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Speaker 1: had six picks and thirty one p b u s,

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Speaker 1: thirty one pass breakups in a single season, which is

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Speaker 1: just remarkable. Rivas Island. You get your own nickname. That

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Speaker 1: should help him as well. But yeah, definitely, I think

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Speaker 1: that he is deserving and we'll see what the committee says.

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Speaker 1: I think Devin Hester needs to be in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. He is the greatest returner ever. I think

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Speaker 1: that he belongs in the Hall of Fame as well.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him get in, uh this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little about the NFC. Give

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Speaker 1: a did you watch? Give me put this together? Did

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Speaker 1: give a watch the Vikings and the Dallas Cowboys? Because

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Speaker 1: his question is, I guess after the the beating that

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Speaker 1: they took, would you still put them as the second

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Speaker 1: best team in phil behind Philly in the NFC or

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Speaker 1: you go in with someone else. I want to say, no,

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Speaker 1: I I it's not just when you win all those

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Speaker 1: tight games. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Now,

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Speaker 1: the other other shoe did drop against Dallas. But I

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Speaker 1: just don't believe in Kirk Cousins in a crunch time,

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Speaker 1: in a playoffs scenario. They're going to go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They got good talent there, they got good wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: I believe Kevin O'Connell is a good coach, but I

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Speaker 1: just don't put them as a serious threat. I think,

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Speaker 1: obviously the most serious threat as Philadelphia, And I keep

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Speaker 1: looking at those Niners say, and that's what I was

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Speaker 1: gonna sank you very much. Okay, well, I'm glad we're

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Speaker 1: on the same page. Then we can move on, right,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, dominant defense, adding McCaffrey, Samuel Ayuken and what

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Speaker 1: they've got with Kittle on offense. I like the Niners

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Speaker 1: a lot. Dallas also very impressive. You saw that in

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Speaker 1: that win over the Vikings. All right, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: stock up, step up, getting ready for the Browns and

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. This is the Kevin Stefanski Show on the

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Speaker 1: trying to make the right decision for each of our players.

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Speaker 1: Time for a little stock up and step up? Here

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Speaker 1: on the Kevin Sefanski Show, Ken who stock is up

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Speaker 1: on this Cleveland Browns team going into Sunday against Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and the Bucks. I was looking for anything positive

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Speaker 1: special teams. I don't know if you guys already said

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Speaker 1: it last week. I love Jerome Ford. Stock up on

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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford, big fan, and hey, look out for Luke

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Speaker 1: Fickle coaching him up. James Hudson working out nicely right now,

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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford working out nicely. And we know what Sauce

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Speaker 1: gardeners doing over there in the a f C. East. Alright,

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Speaker 1: I'll go stock up. I'm gonna give it to the

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Speaker 1: trio throwing the football. Jacoby Brisette, Amari Cooper, Donovan, People's jones.

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Speaker 1: They came up big last week. You're gonna need that

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Speaker 1: again against the Bucks. All Right, who has to step up? Easy?

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Speaker 1: YELLEDO fro Hole, Yellow froll Hole, calling out the mic,

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Speaker 1: having a place center, setting the tone for the higher

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Speaker 1: offensive line, run game, pass game, and not just for

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Speaker 1: this week coming up against Tampa Bay, it's coming up

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. Because you got DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson stepping under center. That's a gonna be a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge commitment for this football team. It's gotta be yelled

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Speaker 1: A frol Yeah, what a journey. Right, He's back up.

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Speaker 1: He starts as the goal line fullback. Then he's playing guard.

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Speaker 1: Now he's playing center for the Cleveland Browns. For me,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, step up the defense. We hear about

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Speaker 1: how good you are. We know a good yard paper.

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Speaker 1: Let's go out there and make some plays. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be great to be the guy that picks off Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady for the last time in Cleveland, or sex Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady for the last time in Cleveland. That would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: It is the Browns three and seven the Buccaneers five

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Speaker 1: and five this Sunday at First Energy stated in our

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Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. For Ken Carmen,

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Speaker 1: want to thank Meredith Kane, producer Jason Gibbs as well.

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Speaker 1: Can't great job. Great to be back with you, Mont Frere,

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