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Speaker 2: Bring us up to date.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard from the Department of Defense and this

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Speaker 3: Also, what do you think about your latest ally, Pete

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Speaker 3: I mean, Pete Hegseth of twenty sixteen makes a ton

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Speaker 3: They say something about a command investigation without even explaining

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Speaker 3: This is all about and intimidation. But in this case,

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Speaker 5: During the raid on John Bolton's house, he was treating

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Speaker 6: Now this has other consequences too.

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Speaker 5: It is incredibly cruel, as we just saw to the

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Speaker 7: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 7: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 7: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 4: Warm use your host, Stephen.

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Speaker 7: Tuesday, sixteen December, you're of our Lord. Twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 7: we've got the Pizzagate guy that's living rent free in

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Speaker 7: This thing, of this targeting of this, this heroic, beautiful

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Speaker 7: I think we've got it. That's got like the Mars moonlander,

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Speaker 6: No, Enough attention is absolutely not being paid to this.

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Speaker 8: I went to college twenty years ago, but when I

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Speaker 6: To even access a building.

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Speaker 8: And Brown University is one of the most expensive elite universities.

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Speaker 8: So how did this guy just waltz into a lecture hall,

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Speaker 8: and open fire? Did he have a student ID? Did

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Speaker 8: Like, how do we not even have information like that

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Speaker 6: You don't have it, which means you did not You

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Speaker 8: Protecting the beautiful students at your university that you are

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Speaker 7: But something else is screwy. Exams were supposed to start

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Speaker 8: in my mind, probably was a very eminent threat on campus,

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Speaker 6: He mind.

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Speaker 8: The university paper at Brown did a poll one month

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Speaker 7: Ban Okay, Jack Mesova. We are really really really slammed here.

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna move through this, Jack Pisobaic. First of

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Speaker 7: You live in rent free in his head.

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Speaker 10: Sir, Wait, Steve, I'm saying, I'm sorry, did you say

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Speaker 10: Mark Kelly, if you want to get up there and

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Speaker 9: Talk all your trash, then let's talk.

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Speaker 10: Let's talk about your wife and her best friend, Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 9: I'm more than happy to have those conversations.

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Speaker 10: But if you want to get up there and undermine

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Speaker 7: But in the Pentagon, you gotta have We got to

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Speaker 7: Jack Pisobic, give me your assessment of the assassination of

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Speaker 10: Well, Steve, as horrific as this is, we have to

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Speaker 9: Completely.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, and the profile of many of

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Speaker 7: No. So this is and I don't know why the

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have Mitchell in embarrassed now. We're gonna jam

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Speaker 7: Hanging for one second, Jack, I wondered, is Candice is?

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Speaker 12: I'm running and I'm just sick about what's happened in Savannah.

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Speaker 7: Tell me about this. You've had a beautiful young Christian

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Speaker 12: So we have a DA in Savannah that was paid

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Speaker 12: And what happened was a beautiful girl, her name's Ashley.

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Speaker 12: She was leaving church. She was in for South Park.

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Speaker 12: If you know anything about Savannah, it's one of the

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Speaker 7: They haven't found the guy.

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Speaker 12: There's cameras everywhere all over Chatham County, all over the

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Speaker 7: Hangar for a second, Jack, Caroline, let me start you

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Speaker 7: one of the reasons you were furious yesterday. It's just

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Speaker 7: not enough actions being taken by FBAT But you're furious

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Speaker 7: also with conservative media. Why are these stories not at

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Speaker 7: the top of the pile? Why is this story?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 7: You have a beautiful young Christian woman coming at church,

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Speaker 7: walking through one of the most historic parks in this country,

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Speaker 7: right with cameras all over scar and she gets acid

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Speaker 7: throwing the face, which we know in Africa and South Asia,

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Speaker 7: in the Middle East is an attack the way that

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Speaker 7: Isamus try to do and try to attack women all

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Speaker 7: the time. Why is this not getting more publicity, ma'am?

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Speaker 13: Well, because everyone is talking about the death of a

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Speaker 13: Hollywood movie director who was tragically but murdered by his

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Speaker 13: coke now drug addicted son. And while that is, yes,

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Speaker 13: a sad situation, I want to hear I want justice

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Speaker 13: for Ella Cook.

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Speaker 8: I want to know more and understand what the heck

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Speaker 8: happened at this university. Mark Halprin said that he heard

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Speaker 8: from the family of Ella Cook that the Christian gets

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Speaker 8: a student who lost her life at Brown, that that

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Speaker 8: family was told that she was the shooter's target. Now,

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Speaker 8: Mark Alperton usually has some pretty decent sources here.

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Speaker 6: If that is true, why are they not saying that.

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Speaker 8: I don't understand, like what the university doesn't even seem

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Speaker 8: to be, you know, up in arms of that outrage.

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Speaker 8: But we're talking about Brown University, which since twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: two has hired forty five you know, new tenured professors,

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Speaker 8: and just three of them are actually white American men,

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Speaker 8: by the way, So this is a university that I

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Speaker 8: think is more focused on, you know, deibile policies than

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Speaker 8: tracking down the killer that just shot eleven of their students.

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Speaker 7: Jack Pasobic, you're one of the biggest influencers out there.

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Speaker 7: Mark Kelly certainly things, so you're inside his head. He's

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Speaker 7: worried about getting court Martialed's what's the situation where you know,

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Speaker 7: the Ellacook situation looks like it's targeted, right, Not enough

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Speaker 7: people are focused on that. We got this situation in Savannah,

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Speaker 7: which is a general criminal and immigration because it's a

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Speaker 7: port of entry. But you've got this very specific acid

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Speaker 7: attack in the face, and you know how symbolic that is.

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Speaker 7: Why are people not focused on these things? Why are

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Speaker 7: we not driving this narrative? Look, Steve, it's very clear, Okay,

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Speaker 7: it's very clear. We're coming up.

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Speaker 10: It's the Christmas season, it's Honka season as well, and

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Speaker 10: what are they doing.

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Speaker 9: They are attacking.

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Speaker 10: There are Christian women who are being attacked, who are

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Speaker 10: being slaughtered. They're coming for your little girls, they are

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Speaker 10: coming to kill them. They want Christians to die. They're

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Speaker 10: targeting Jewish families as well, as we saw it down

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Speaker 10: in Australia. And so the problem that we've seen right here,

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Speaker 10: as disgusting as it is, we need to actually understand

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Speaker 10: the motivations behind this. I served it at Guantanamo Bay.

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Speaker 10: I don't talk about this all the time. I don't

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Speaker 10: try to be one of those professional veteran types. But

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Speaker 10: when I was down there, I got to see radical

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Speaker 10: Islam up close and personal, and what they told us

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Speaker 10: was very clear. They are doing this because of their

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Speaker 10: radical religious ideology. They view that radical Islam should take

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Speaker 10: over the world, that the caliphate should be introduced, that

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Speaker 10: everyone should be subject to it. You be forced to

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Speaker 10: pay the jizia tax if you refuse to convert to Islam.

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Speaker 10: And others who are more radical who say if you refers,

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Speaker 10: you refuse to commute to convert to Islam, or if

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Speaker 10: you refuse to go along with it. You stand the way,

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Speaker 10: you will be killed and the media will sit there

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Speaker 10: and tell you no, no, no. We just got to

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Speaker 10: bring in more migrants. We've got to be more tolerant,

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Speaker 10: we got to be nice. Got just bring into Zora

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Speaker 10: Mndami's bring in these Pakistanis to Australia. It's just gonna

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Speaker 10: help with the just gonna help with the economy. It's

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Speaker 10: better for the GDP. And it's a joke. It's an

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Speaker 10: absolute joke, and people are dying because of it. People

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Speaker 10: are absolutely dying because of it. You see the subversion

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Speaker 10: on campuses. Now you're seeing the subversion, the attacks in

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Speaker 10: the streets. And it's only going to get worse until

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Speaker 10: we start taking it seriously. And when I say Frank Rizzo,

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Speaker 10: I mean when you shot a police officer in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 10: Frank res it would go to every single anti police group,

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Speaker 10: the Black Panthers, move all the rest of them, and

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Speaker 10: he would start he would just start throwing people up

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Speaker 10: against the wall.

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Speaker 9: All right, that's what you do.

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Speaker 10: You take it seriously like this country used to take

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Speaker 10: things seriously.

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Speaker 7: I agree one hundred for Sunday Goego, frankru Candace Taylor,

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Speaker 7: where do people go and find out more about your campaign?

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Speaker 7: You're running on this down in Georgia and people need

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Speaker 7: to talk about it. You got the courage to do it.

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Speaker 7: We got about thirty seconds. Where do people go to

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Speaker 7: find out more about you, ma'am and your campaign?

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Speaker 9: Cannstaylor dot com. And we have to fight against this.

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Speaker 12: We're asked questions about Islam influenced your hottest and would

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Speaker 12: get slammed. I had hundreds of thousands of views on

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Speaker 12: my videos this week about this Ashley case and they

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Speaker 12: don't want to hear it. Well, purposeful in the face

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Speaker 12: of a woman, and we're going to ask the hard

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Speaker 12: questions and we're going to hold people accountable. Just by

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Speaker 12: Jack said, we have to demand it in this country.

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Speaker 7: Candace Taylor, hard Christian running for Congress down in Savannah.

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Speaker 4: War Room. Here's your host, Stephen Kvas.

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Speaker 7: The Great Megan Basham. I'll try to get Meghan on tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Has got up Mark Halpern's piece on his new video

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Speaker 7: on his new show where he says he's got sources

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Speaker 7: and Helpern's pretty good on sources. Caroline Wren, He's got

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Speaker 7: sources that says that Ella Cook, a Christian Conservative, was

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Speaker 7: targeted at Brown University. It's not war room, it's not

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Speaker 7: Caroline Ren's eposobic, but not yelling her Mike's. This is

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Speaker 7: Halpern from sources saying that told she was and the

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Speaker 7: family is hearing this as he's hearing from sources close

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Speaker 7: to the family, she was the shooter's target. Caroline Wren.

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Speaker 7: You just had Candice Taylor, a conservative Christian running for

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Speaker 7: Congress down in Savannah. She's a signator on the letter

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Speaker 7: asked the president, I states, hey, can you please get

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Speaker 7: the National Guard down? Here's things out of control. You've

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Speaker 7: got a Christian woman coming back from a Christian service

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Speaker 7: having acid thrown in her face, second and third degree

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Speaker 7: burns over fifty percent of her body. You got Ella Cook,

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Speaker 7: a young conservative superstar in a snake pit. You talk

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Speaker 7: about courage, you'd be a conservative Christian and Brown University.

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Speaker 7: That's courage, okay. And by the way, she was supposedly

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Speaker 7: very well liked for everybody because she had that kind

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Speaker 7: of gentle nature and firm nature that live Christianity gives

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Speaker 7: you your thoughts, ma'am, I think it was.

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Speaker 6: Just it is so awful. It is awful.

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Speaker 8: What is happening with the targeting of Christian women right

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Speaker 8: now across the country and the fact that you are like,

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Speaker 8: we're facing hostility and it's for expressing their views, expressing

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Speaker 8: their love of Jesus Christ. And I just you know,

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Speaker 8: this is happening with Charlie Kirk. We saw this and

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Speaker 8: we now have what happened to Brown University. It's been

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Speaker 8: over and over again, and we have got to get

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Speaker 8: loud and we have got.

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Speaker 6: To protect our homeland and our people.

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Speaker 8: It is terror I mean, I honestly, it is amazing

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Speaker 8: to me that anyone sends their kids off to these

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Speaker 8: liberal universities anymore. It is so dangerous to even just

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Speaker 8: be a young American walking around on these campuses.

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Speaker 6: It is terrify and.

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Speaker 8: Especially if you were willing to be a vocal Christian

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Speaker 8: or a vocal Republican, you.

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Speaker 6: Are automatically the target.

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Speaker 8: And that is because these campuses have just fostered these

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Speaker 8: It's supposed to be a place that of enlightenment, where

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Speaker 8: you encourage discussion, you encourage your growth and meeting other

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Speaker 8: people and learning other points of view, and that is not.

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Speaker 6: At all what is happening on these universities.

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Speaker 8: I think what I would immediate like to see is

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Speaker 8: a pause of these settlements with the universities. Hartmeat Dillon

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Speaker 8: has been leading the charge on the negotiations with them.

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Speaker 8: She's been doing an amazing job. But for right now,

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Speaker 8: go hate more of their money. Go keep fighting with them.

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Speaker 8: Say you've got to secure your campus and solve the

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Speaker 8: problems and find out why the fostering of hate is

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Speaker 8: happening at these universities and you are allowing these kids

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Speaker 8: to be attack.

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Speaker 7: Caroline, where do people, if people should understand the driving

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Speaker 7: force and the MAGA movement, just like it was in

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Speaker 7: the Tea Party movement. And I had a ringside seat

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Speaker 7: at Breitbart, in here at war room and with President Trump.

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Speaker 7: Are Christian women don't think the enemy, don't the enemy

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Speaker 7: is not stupid, Okay. They understand that the driving force

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Speaker 7: the people that will not back down in our movement ever,

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Speaker 7: because guys talk about things, the people that get things

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Speaker 7: done in our movement are Christian women. They understand this.

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Speaker 7: That's why Christian women are now the target. Caroline, where

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Speaker 7: do people go? Particular your Twitter feed which comes in

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Speaker 7: a little hot every now and again.

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Speaker 6: It is at Caroline, Wren on Twitter, get Er and

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Speaker 6: truth Social.

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Speaker 7: Thank you man, I appreciate you, Jack Besobic, thanks for

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Speaker 7: hanging around, and thank Mike Bens for moving your prof

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Speaker 7: record time. I want to you've got Can we play

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Speaker 7: this footage? First off, the negotiator is Wikoff and I

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Speaker 7: guess Jared or whoever have agreed. Wall Street journals all

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Speaker 7: over it and an attention negotiation have agreed to American

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Speaker 7: security guarantees. Let me say that the Article five NATO

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Speaker 7: level security guarantees for Ukraine against Russia. That they'll never

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Speaker 7: be an attack, they'll never be a war. Our American

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Speaker 7: troops will be called in. This is total and complete insanity.

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Speaker 7: But we got a video that you saw. Can we

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Speaker 7: go ahead play that video? You don't have it, okay, Fine,

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Speaker 7: that's fine, that's okay, Jack, describe the video. We don't

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Speaker 7: have it up yet. Describe what you saw that the

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Speaker 7: Russians are doing in Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: Oh gosh, well, this video and again it's it's reported,

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Speaker 10: you know, it seems to be a legitimate video. I'm

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Speaker 10: not sure exactly of the you know, the location, the area,

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Speaker 10: but reportedly it is a video of a Russian detachment

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Speaker 10: that are using now we've seen counter drone strategies have

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Speaker 10: really taken on a variety of different novel approaches. You've

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Speaker 10: seen people using dirt bikes, you see, because of their

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Speaker 10: high reneuverability and also there their speed. But all but

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Speaker 10: at the same time, because as they're moving into the

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Speaker 10: winter months now the winter warfare, you get mud, you

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Speaker 10: get slush, you get snow, and so the dirt bikes

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Speaker 10: aren't working as well over that muddy terrain, over that slushy,

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Speaker 10: icy terrain. And so the video, which reportedly is in

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Speaker 10: the city of Pakrosk, which is one of these areas

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Speaker 10: in the Dawn Bass where the Russian forces are now

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Speaker 10: moving forward, it appears to be a Russian detachment riding horses,

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Speaker 10: and that Russians are Russians uniform Cossacks like that, well,

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Speaker 10: the Cossacks are more on the Ukraine side, but this

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Speaker 10: so these are these are the Russian Russian Cavil Russian version.

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Speaker 10: Looks like the Russian Cossacks may have returned, because again

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Speaker 10: it's the maneuverability and to get away from the drones

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Speaker 10: very quickly. So actually horses over that type of terrain

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Speaker 10: does make a lot more sense.

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Speaker 7: I remember my dad early on was giving me the

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Speaker 7: books and starts seeing about World War two in the

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Speaker 7: Polish in the German invasion of Poland, I think three

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Speaker 7: quarters of the maneuverability was by horses, right and not that. Wow,

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Speaker 7: this is like the twentieth century ahead. Did that happen?

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Speaker 7: You see? Even in the twenty four hors horses guts

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Speaker 7: us Jack your thoughts. You're a naval intelligence officer there

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Speaker 7: you are right there and an amazing, absolutely amazing. You

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Speaker 7: think those people are ever going to give up? You

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Speaker 7: think they're going to quit? This is my point. They've

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Speaker 7: been fighting over the Bloodlands for thousands of years. You've

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Speaker 7: had millions of people die in the last hundred to millions,

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Speaker 7: not thousands, not tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 7: millions of people. It's called the bloodlands for a reason.

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Speaker 7: What possibly when we don't have control of Minneapolis or

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Speaker 7: New York City or Chicago. Got Rachel Maddow on a

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Speaker 7: stage mocking us about how they got illegal aliens up

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Speaker 7: there on MSNBC in prime time, saying he they're defending

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Speaker 7: the Constitution from Maga, from Tom Homan and from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: We don't have control of any of these cities, not one.

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Speaker 7: We don't have our sovereignty here because they're defying us.

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Speaker 7: And people in the administration are talking. Miller, nowt of

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Speaker 7: these guys a home and from going in and dropping

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Speaker 7: the hammer. So how can we not have our sovereignty here?

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Speaker 7: And yet we're gonna guarantee, we're gonna get guarantee, a

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Speaker 7: bulletproof guarantee on the security and sovereignty in Ukraine against

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Speaker 7: Russia in the Bloodlands. Jack Posovac, your assessment, sir.

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Speaker 10: You know, Steve, it just the fact you mentioned about

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Speaker 10: the warfare in this area, and I would say, you know,

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Speaker 10: it makes me laugh because I think, do folks know

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Speaker 10: where the Dombas is on a map?

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Speaker 9: You go, do you have any.

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Speaker 10: Idea how long people have been riding horses and husbandry

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Speaker 10: in warfare in the Dombass? Okay, the Dombas is just

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Speaker 10: north of a little area called the Caucus Mountains, the Caucuses.

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Speaker 9: All right, this is.

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Speaker 10: The area where warfare on horseback was created in the

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Speaker 10: times of prehistory.

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Speaker 9: We're talking thousands and thousands.

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Speaker 10: Of years before they swept out into Europe and went on.

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Speaker 10: You're talking like this is like the hunter gatherers versus

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Speaker 10: the you know, versus the Neolithic, the Neolithic farmers.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is this is as ancient as it gets.

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Speaker 10: From you know, from time that the you know, the

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Speaker 10: you know, the first caveman took a rock to the

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Speaker 10: next caveman, as Stanley Kubrick would have it.

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Speaker 9: So you're talking about.

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Speaker 10: Some ancient ancient warfare, sactics and the valus. To say

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Speaker 10: that we are going to solve it is ridiculous, you know,

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Speaker 10: quite frankly, it's it's it's a little bit of hubrist.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying, it's a little bit of hubris. You

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Speaker 10: gotta go, you gotta have a historic sense the.

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Speaker 7: Valor and courage of the Ukrainian people, as Merschheimer said

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Speaker 7: the beginning, you're going to use that against them. They've

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Speaker 7: lost a milli and a half to two million people

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Speaker 7: mallion dead or wanted it. And the place looks like

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Speaker 7: the place looks like it looks like Dresden in nineteen

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Speaker 7: forty five.

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Speaker 10: You again, look at the city, look at the city

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Speaker 10: behind the horses, and you can see it.

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Speaker 7: And the Russians have lost a malli and a mill

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Speaker 7: and a half, but you got three or four million

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Speaker 7: people dead or wanted folks in Vietnam. Is Harble's Vietnam

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Speaker 7: where he had sixty eight thousand in the scar that

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Speaker 7: Vietnam left on us. Are you kidding me? This is

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Speaker 7: an unsetity. You got three or four million people dead.

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Speaker 7: There's President Trump's stuff because the're killing but they're still

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Speaker 7: killing each other every day. I think there's a ten

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Speaker 7: thousand a day. President Trump's saying that. Harnwell, this is

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Speaker 7: the Europeans set in a trap, and you got we're

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Speaker 7: cough and it's jury doing a great job, but boys,

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Speaker 7: hang on, No guarantees cannot happen. And as I put

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Speaker 7: this up on Ghetter all the time and social media,

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Speaker 7: it's one hundred percent to zero, there's nobody sitting there going, yeah,

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Speaker 7: we want to do that, Ben Harnwell, that's.

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Speaker 11: Why Steve and the war has been warning on this

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Speaker 11: point right for year and a half.

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Speaker 7: I remember year and a half.

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Speaker 11: Ago, Steve, we were actually saying to everyone who would

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Speaker 11: listen that that that Ukraine's pitch to be admitted in

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Speaker 11: the NATO was just simply a negotiating tool when it

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Speaker 11: came to see its negotiations in order for them to

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Speaker 11: relinquish that to make it look as if they were

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Speaker 11: giving up something and in order to get what they

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Speaker 11: really wanted, where the US provided security guarantees. And that's

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Speaker 11: exactly how this is mapped up eighteen months later, Steve,

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Speaker 11: because you hear the soundings coming out from them from

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Speaker 11: Ukraine and perhaps will drop the NATO accession request. But

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Speaker 11: what we actually want is the US security guarantees. And

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Speaker 11: the thing, Steve, that I can't fathom and I can't

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Speaker 11: work it out, why is that the US administration is

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Speaker 11: playing along with this The first for a piece deal

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Speaker 11: is so great that looks like the US is actually

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Speaker 11: going to crumple on this and give Zelenski.

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Speaker 4: Everything he wants.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, you said earlier on, Steve, let

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Speaker 11: me push this point you said earlier on, because this

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Speaker 11: is how the press is pushing this sort of Article

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Speaker 11: five style guarantees, by.

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Speaker 14: The way, as ridiculous and as a hoax, as that is,

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Speaker 14: at least on paper, there is the mutual consent that

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Speaker 14: if one member state gets attacked with the others will

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Speaker 14: come in to defend it.

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Speaker 11: That is to say, if Ukraine came into NATO and

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Speaker 11: America were to be attacked and Ukraine would would would

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Speaker 11: come in and help America. That's not what is on

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Speaker 11: the table as far as I can tell in this case.

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Speaker 11: So even the comparison to the NATO five guarantees is

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Speaker 11: a hoax because there's no reciprocity, even though I labor

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Speaker 11: the point, the reciprocity is a hoax. It's a fig leaf.

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Speaker 11: This is purely one way traffic, Steve. And it's not

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Speaker 11: the most important thing that I would identify it today.

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Speaker 11: The most important thing is this article which I didn't

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Speaker 11: send through to Denver.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me for that, and it's a poll from NBC.

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Speaker 11: Everybody needs to be focused on this pole which says

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Speaker 11: that it's a seven percent drop in Republicans identifying as MAGA.

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Speaker 11: What the President should do, in my humble opinion, is

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Speaker 11: calling Steve Whitkoff, calling Joe Cushioner to the overall office

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Speaker 11: and say, look.

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Speaker 7: At this, these guys.

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Speaker 11: The Democrats are going as as Steve, as you would say,

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Speaker 11: as sure as the turning of the earth. The Democrats

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Speaker 11: are going to try to impeach me if they get

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Speaker 11: a majority after the midterms. How is this piece negotiated

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Speaker 11: negotiation that you have negotiated with Ukraine. How is that

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Speaker 11: going to turn the tide on this hemorrhaging of support

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Speaker 11: and keep me in office?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 11: And then you should say, go back there, go back

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Speaker 11: to Ukraine, go back to Kiev, go back to Moscow,

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Speaker 11: and negotiate a deal that is going to get Maga

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Speaker 11: chomping at the.

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Speaker 7: Bit to keep me in office. Here's that. They don't

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Speaker 7: need to go back. They need to make a phone calls. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 7: if we thought one further review, have at it. There's

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Speaker 7: nothing to do. President Trump is in his goodness of

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Speaker 7: his heart, he's it hurts him to see all this killing.

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Speaker 7: He says it all the because he's getting the intelligence

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Speaker 7: reports every day, the slaughter and the murder. Mister President,

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Speaker 7: this is just what they do. It ain't called the

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Speaker 7: Bloodlins for nothing, and nothing you can do is going

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Speaker 7: to change it. There's nothing the United States can do

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Speaker 7: when we got to get our own sovereignty. It's not

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Speaker 7: in the vital national security interests of the United States.

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Speaker 7: It's just gonna suck us in. And people over there

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Speaker 7: think you need a deal. We don't need a deal.

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Speaker 7: Europe needs a deal. Do Ukrainians need a deal? The

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Speaker 7: Russians who knows, but it's not our problem. And a security,

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Speaker 7: a guarantee, a sovereignty guarantee, makes it our problem. We

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Speaker 7: got enough problems. We got to sort these problems out,

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Speaker 7: and particularly for guys like Zelensky, and these guys are

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Speaker 7: stealing with both hands. Short commercial break, Harnwell posts, So

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Speaker 7: Dan Calwell's gonna join us. Eric Teetzel stick around, God,

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Speaker 7: we rejoice.

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Speaker 4: Warm Hugh's your host Stephen.

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Speaker 7: In the season of Piece, President Trump is trying to

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Speaker 7: thoughts on the security guarantees. Brother, you know that part

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Speaker 7: of the world pretty well. Look, I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 7: If there's anything I know about that area at the

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Speaker 7: dombas this is.

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Speaker 10: This has been the clash of empires since time immemorial,

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Speaker 10: from the time of the Scythian Empires, the Pontic Step,

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Speaker 10: thousands upon thousands of years, Empires warfare, it all goes

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Speaker 10: back to this area.

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Speaker 9: World War One, World War.

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Speaker 10: Two, they tried to do it as Stalingrad is in

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Speaker 10: this region. Okay, this is some of the greatest wars,

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Speaker 10: the most deadly and brutal wars in all of human history,

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Speaker 10: have been fought in this area. So the idea that

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Speaker 10: we're just going to be the ones to come up

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Speaker 10: and bring up peace. Look, I understand where the present's

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Speaker 10: coming from, and I totally support it, but just understand

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Speaker 10: the areas that you're dealing with, and understand the temerity

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Speaker 10: and the as you would say, Steve, cussedness of the

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Speaker 10: people who live with cussedness.

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Speaker 7: So hang on for a second, Dan, Colwell joins us. Dan,

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Speaker 7: I'll get your thoughts later on. What do you think

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Speaker 7: this is optics?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 7: You don't think the Russians ever agreed to this. So

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Speaker 7: the Trump administration's doing something smart in putting out there, Hey,

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Speaker 7: we'll get if you need guarantees, we'll give them guarantees.

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Speaker 7: But they'll never be a deal, and so we'll look

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Speaker 7: like the good guys.

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Speaker 15: I can never see the Russians agreeing to something that

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Speaker 15: is an effect to facto NATO membership. They have a

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Speaker 15: vote here and the President is pointing this out, and

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Speaker 15: I think that they will continue to fight if that

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Speaker 15: is a big part of the deal. Now, there's a

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Speaker 15: million different ways to do security guarantees that doesn't involve

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Speaker 15: necessarily committing US or NATO troops. They may accept something

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Speaker 15: that is along the lines of will agree to provide

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Speaker 15: the Ukrainian's defensive weapons systems or certain types of support

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Speaker 15: or things like that. But again, I think the Russians

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Speaker 15: have made clear. This is their primary issue. It's the

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Speaker 15: issue of you crany in alignment. It's more important than

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Speaker 15: territory to them. It's whether or not Ukraine is going

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Speaker 15: to be part of an alliance that they view as

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Speaker 15: a security threat. So I can never see them agreeing

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Speaker 15: to something that would effect make Ukraine a de facto

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Speaker 15: member of NATO, as Ben Hardwell points out, actually could

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Speaker 15: be a more powerful security guarantee than NATO if some

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Speaker 15: of the reporting is correct.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so I got to get this out for

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Speaker 7: the audience to start. Think we'll get the articles out.

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Speaker 7: Petexs and some others are talking about a pretty radical

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Speaker 7: change to the structure of the military command system at

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Speaker 7: the War Department and out to the actual troops in

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Speaker 7: the field. And I'll be blunt. I think we're in

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Speaker 7: the beginning stages of this kinetic part of the Third

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Speaker 7: World War. Changes that were made at the Pentagon. I

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Speaker 7: think in World War Two were done beforehand. But walk

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Speaker 7: me through exactly what Pete and other people are talking

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Speaker 7: about about combatant commanders.

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Speaker 15: Sure, so yesterday the Washington Post had a story, and

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Speaker 15: I think War Room audience members will know and see

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Speaker 15: that this was a strategic leak by people likely opposed

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Speaker 15: to these reforms, so that's important to keep in mind.

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Speaker 15: No decision has been made, and this is likely being

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Speaker 15: pushed out by people who don't want to see them.

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Speaker 15: So essentially what is being proposed is a consolidation of

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Speaker 15: these combatant commands which exist around the world.

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Speaker 2: You have six geographic.

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Speaker 15: Commands that were set up in the nineteen eighties as

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Speaker 15: part of Goldwater Nickels in response to some of the

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Speaker 15: military failures in Lebanon and Grenada, some of the command

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Speaker 15: and control issues, and it was a reform that made

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Speaker 15: sense at the time. It actually worked very well in

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Speaker 15: operations like Desert Storm and the opening days of Post

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Speaker 15: nine to eleven Wars. But since then, these combatant commands

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Speaker 15: like Central Command in the Middle East and European Command

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Speaker 15: in Europe have become incredibly powerful. My friend Justin Logan

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Speaker 15: wrote a piece in National Interest where essentially he compares

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Speaker 15: them to Roman pro consuls. They in effect run their

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Speaker 15: own semi independent foreign policy, and they are incentivized in

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Speaker 15: position to prioritize their own commands and to ensure that

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Speaker 15: they get more resources and that they have their own

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Speaker 15: lobbies and own special interests here back in DC.

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Speaker 9: See.

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Speaker 15: But I've heard you and Jack, for example, describe Washington,

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Speaker 15: DC as a central command company town, and I think that.

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Speaker 2: Perfectly sums up the problem.

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Speaker 15: So what the Secretary of War supposedly is considering is

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Speaker 15: consolidating these commands from six to three, which will reduce

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Speaker 15: bloat and in my mind, reduce the power of some

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Speaker 15: of these combatant commanders, which is incredibly important to ensuring

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Speaker 15: it and doing control of the military.

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Speaker 7: Hang on, this is about Gorilla, right, Gorilla, Jack pisobc,

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Speaker 7: jump in here. This is about Gorilla. Gorilla was running

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Speaker 7: his own foreign policy. He didn't care what the president

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Speaker 7: had to say. He's a pro counsul. It's like you're

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Speaker 7: sending You're sending a pro counsul down to take over

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Speaker 7: Judea Samaria during punch his pilot's time, Right, You're sending

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Speaker 7: a pro consul down there. And Gorilla was that. He

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Speaker 7: didn't want to hear. He didn't want he didn't care

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Speaker 7: what Pete had to say. He carried the president. He

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Speaker 7: had his plan of basically initiating the war with the Persians.

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Speaker 10: Correct, Jack Pisobic, I mean, and yeah, and that's exactly

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Speaker 10: who the pro consul over the Roman Umpire will be

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Speaker 10: fighting against at the same time. And this was a

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Speaker 10: case where and I've had it. Look, I'll just say

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Speaker 10: that I had it from source after source after source

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Speaker 10: that this was co com driven. It was not driven

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Speaker 10: by DC, it was not driven by command intent. It

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Speaker 10: was driven by the CoCom. In the case of Gorilla,

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Speaker 10: and I had source after source after source, high level

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Speaker 10: officials telling.

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Speaker 7: Me that, so is that what this is about, Dan Calwell,

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Speaker 7: this actually a program they want to do or is

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Speaker 7: this because they don't want another Gorilla on the scene

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Speaker 7: that's more powerful than the Secretary of War quite frankly,

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Speaker 7: more powerful than the Joint chiefs of Staff.

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Speaker 15: About the system and the incentives it creates, it wasn't

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Speaker 15: just Gorilla. General Koboli, in my mind, was worse. We

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Speaker 15: were talking about what was going on in your In

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Speaker 15: my view, he was running his own foreign policy the

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Speaker 15: first few months vis a v Ukraine, in yukam And

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Speaker 15: so I think it's the incentives these system creates.

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Speaker 2: And it's also the bloat too. It's these staffs.

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Speaker 15: At these combatant commands have grown by over fifty percent

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Speaker 15: since nine to eleven. In that matter, some of these

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Speaker 15: combatant commands. In terms of their size, they're actually bigger

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Speaker 15: than the Office of Secretary Defense. So if your secretary HEGSEF,

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Speaker 15: with your front office and your team.

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Speaker 2: You can't manage these people effectively.

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Speaker 15: You're fighting against them, and that just doesn't work in

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Speaker 15: the long term.

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Speaker 7: Dan cal will hang on, Jack, just hang over a second.

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Speaker 7: I want to give your coordinates and what you're working

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Speaker 7: on today. Harnwell, hang on. We got Teitzel, John Solomon.

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Speaker 7: We're absolutely packed, but we're going to get it all

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Speaker 7: done right. Stuff takes us out one hundred and twenty seconds.

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Speaker 7: We're back