1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Welcome on in a quick reminder that in three days 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: the Moistline will be back. So we accept your messages 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: either through the app. There's a microphone icon you can 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: use her the tophree number one eight seven seven moist 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: eight eighty six. 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: A lot of room, a lot of vacancies in the 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: is that right Moistline motel? 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It's been a long time 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: since you've had a new death. I was just thinking 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: about that the other day. What yes, Oh, that's nice 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: to know. But we're going to start with you being 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: gas lit. Brandon Judd is the president of the National 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Border Patrol Council, which represents all rank and file Border 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: patrol agents nationwide. And of course we know what's happening 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: tomorrow night at midnight. Title forty two expires, the migrants 30 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: are already lined up to come into the country because 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: that's the word they're getting. But when I said we're 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: being gas lit, he put a pretty good column that 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: was printed by Newsweek. The Biden administration and the liberal 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: media won't stop lying about the border. Here's the truth. 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: It's a very good column. You should check it out 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: and get a chance to read it. I just wanted 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: to pull out one statistic from it, and then we're 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: going to get to Brandon on the show. But of 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: course you've been hearing may Orchis say things like, oh, 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: the border's secure. You've been hearing Biden's spokeshole, Jean Pierre, 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: what's her name, Jean Pierre at ninety percent you were 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: taking care of the migrants nighty percent of them are 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: being turned away or something like that. Well, during the 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Obama Trump administration's Brandon writes, the US Border Patrol's daily 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: average was one two hundred and seventeen arrests of illegal 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 2: border crossers and three hundred and thirty nine known getaways. 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Those are illegal border crossers who were able to evade arrest. 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Under Biden, the number of illegal border crosses crossers has 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: skyrocketed to a daily average five thousand, seven hundred and 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 2: sixty four and one thousand, eight hundred and seventy three 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: known getaways. He says those numbers alone prove that Majorcus 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: is lying when he says we don't have an open border. 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Then he prevents he presents another story. Biden urged judges 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: to use prosecutorial discretion that resulted in the release of 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: a majority of illegal border crosses into the United States, 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: where Presidents Trump and Obama removed most people who crossed 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: the border illegally. These are the facts. Brandon Judd knows them. Obviously, 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: he's right there on the front lines. And now he's 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: going to come on and talk more about this. Very 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: good colony, wrote. 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: Brandon, how are you? I'm doing good and you we're good. 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: So we've crossed into outright lying from the administration. 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: Well, can I do you mind if I started those 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: motel rooms that you guys are having trouble filling. Yeah, 65 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: I've got a bunch of bill legal aliens. We'll be 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: happy to. 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: This is doing it New York City. 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: New York's doing it. And they're also sending out a 70 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of legals to the suburbs, which is not making 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the suburbs happy. All right, So this is this is 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: a change from past administrations. This is not the normal 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: BS thing. This this is outright lies that they're telling. 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: It is it is And if you would have watched 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: section my Richis press conference today, it was more absolute, 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: absolute life and what's really really frustrating every single border 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: trail agent out there. And by the way, we are 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: all sick and tired of Biden. We're done with him. 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: He is the worst president in my life in I'm sorry, 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: my career, twenty five year career. But let's talk about 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: the lies that they constantly get. They constantly say, we 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: are giving a consequence, We're putting them in deportation proceedings. 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: That's true, that is true. But what they don't tell 84 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: you is is what's happening after we put them into 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: deportation proceedings. When we put them in deportation proceedings, they 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: ultimately get released into the United States. And once they're 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: released into the United States, that's when they never show 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: up to their court dates. So all of these millions 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: of people that have either gotten away or been released 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: into the United States, they are never leaving. And that's 91 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: nearly five million people, and that's only in two years. 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: Now the numbers going to double because Title forty two 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: is going away. When I said that Biden averaged five thousand, 94 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: seven hundred apprehensions, that seven hundred over the last three 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: days has exploded to ten thousand apprehensions and it's going 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: to go up to potentially sixteen one thousand once Title 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: forty two goes away. So we're going to see a 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: mass flood of people that are going to be released 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: in the United States. But what Secretary of ma Arcus 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: says is complete and total fabrication. But because he's not 101 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: fact checked on it by the mainstream media, it then 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: becomes the truth. And that's the problem. We have to 103 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: fact check everything that he says so that the American 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: people can have all of the information so that they 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: can formulate their opinions based upon all of the facts, 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 4: not just half truth. 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Outside of Fox, none of the mainstream media outlets, print 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: or television. 109 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: None of them. 110 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Fact check, none of them are covering the truth of 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: this story. They're all in lockstep refusing to I've never 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: seen anything like it. 113 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: That's why I was surprised to see Brandon. NBC News 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: Today reported eleven thousand migrants were caught across the southern 115 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: border yesterday, and now we have a plan to release 116 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: them without court date, so the ability need attract them. 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: That's also horrifying. 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 4: We started that three days ago. We started releasing people 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: without court dates to the streets three days ago, so 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: they're a little bit behind the time. Bill Mlusian broke 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: that with Fox News. But look, that's again, that's the 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: magnet that draws people. When we look at when you 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: hear Kamala Harris say root causes, The root causes have 124 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: existed since I've been alive. All of the political upheaval 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: around the world has existed. All of the gangs violence 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: has existed, and it certainly existed in the Obama era 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: and in the Trump area, but we didn't have this. 128 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: What has changed is policy. The Biden administration has changed policy, 129 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: and that policy has invited people to cross our borders. Illegally, 130 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: and that's why we see this mass flood and the 131 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: reason that's happening is all you have to do is 132 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: look at the political appointees in the West Wing. They 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: come from activist backgrounds. Look at the political appointees that 134 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: are in DHS, they come from activists. Bat Look at 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: what happened with that operation where we were going to 136 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: target those individuals who had gotten away that were in 137 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: the city of El Paso. We were going to target 138 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: go after the criminal element of it. Yet you saw 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: CVP release beforehand, Hey, this operation is going to take place, 140 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: and then they had to cancel because everybody disappeared. That's 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: activism in law enforcement and you should never have activists 142 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: in law enforcement. 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Where are these people going once they get away from 144 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: our system? Like, where are they ending up? Where are 145 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: they living their lives? What are they doing? 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: Everywhere? Everywhere? They're going to ains Ioway, They're going to Tapeka, Kansas. 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: They're going to Little Rock, Arkansas. They're going to Bangor, Maine. 148 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: They're going to New York City, They're going to Miami. 149 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: They're going throughout the entire United States. But it's not 150 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: just people that are going throughout the entire United States. 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: It's also the fentanyl that's coming across the border that 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: is killing thousands of US citizens every single day. That's 153 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: why borders security matters. It matters because the taxpayer has 154 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: to shoulder the burden of all of these mass people 155 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: that are coming in. When they come in and they 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: get their NTAs, then they're able to apply for social benefits. 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: We pay for those social benefits. Then, on top of that, 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: the criminal cartel is bringing in the sentinel that's killing 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: so many US citizens. We pay for those lives. That's 160 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: the problem. That's why border security is so important. But 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: as long as the mainstream media constantly covers for this administration, 162 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 4: as long as they say, oh, look what sectory Americas said, 163 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 4: he said that they're going to be removed, wink wink, 164 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: then the American public isn't going to know what's going on. 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: If they understood, your listeners understand, we need more people 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: to understand. If everybody understood, they would be screaming mad 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: about what's going on. I've never is they don't know. 168 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen a time where so many political officials, 169 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: why blatantly, and so many in the media reinforce and 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: amplify the lie. 171 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Its idology. 172 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: It's something that ever existed before. 173 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, but it's media ideology. What's happened 174 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: is is we don't have true media and I'm sorry, 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: true news networks anymore. We have tabloids. All of these 176 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: all of these companies are tabloids. I pointed in my 177 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: in my offed and Newsweek today, I pointed to one 178 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: article that was that was done by mp NBC News 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: that should have been a tabloid article. That wasn't a 180 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: legitimate news article. It was tabloid. It was activism. 181 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: All right, Brandon, thank you for coming on again. We'll 182 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: talk soon. 183 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: Good to talk to you. 184 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. 185 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: Brandon Judd, who was our guest, and he is the 186 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: president of the National Border Patrol Council, of course, the 187 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: representative for rank and filed border patrol agents nationwide, and 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: he just had an opinion column published in newsweek dot 189 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: com about all the lies from the Biden administration about 190 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: what's going on at the US border. We'll talk a 191 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: bit more when we come back. 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The expiration of Title forty two implemented back 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty because of the COVID nineteen public health emergency. 203 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: It was a way of. 204 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: Deporting many people who come to the border immediately. That 205 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: probably hasn't been done when you consider the millions of 206 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: migrants who enter the United States since Biden's been president. 207 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: There must have been some discretion with Title forty two 208 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: that's been used. But the problem is when it expires 209 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow night at midnight, it really allows the smugglers to 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: tell everybody, Hey, now the US is totally wide open. 211 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: The messages get distorted despite realities. 212 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: So we have to be aware of that. Now, all 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: that matters is that they're lined up and ready to go. Oh, 214 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: whether they have the right message or the wrong message, 215 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: or how they got the message, they're there and there's 216 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot of truth to the message because even the 217 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: people who get in and get stopped or have to 218 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: fill out paperwork are ultimately released. 219 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: There's very few being sent back, very few. 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: Brandon made the good point that they're gaslighting you the 221 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Biden administration. Majorcis the presidential spokeshole, Jean Pierre. 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: They're lying, and most of the media is lying or 223 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: covering up. And this is a place we've never been before. 224 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how profound it is. 225 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh, the Times runs headlines more restrictive Polo, So he's 226 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: coming to the border. I mean, yeah, they're carrying the 227 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: water for this administration. I'm looking at a story that 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: says is more than one hundred and fifty thousand migrants 229 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: who are waiting in northern Mexico for the expiration of 230 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Title forty two, oh, to make them moving. Did you 231 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: see what's going on in Nel Paso, Texas. There's a 232 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: thousand migrants who are hanging out on the streets outside 233 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: of a church. Yeah, you asked before where these migrants go. 234 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Some of them are being taken in by charitable and religious. 235 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Organs, but they're all at capacity. Oh, I mean every 236 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: border town in Texas is at capacity and Department Homeland 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Security is at capacity. They are now letting out thousands 238 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,479 Speaker 1: of migrants that they had in detention centers, including criminals, 239 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: and sending them out into the streets. Now where do 240 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: they go from the streets, Well, you know, some of 241 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: them are ending up in well, actually in the big cities. 242 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: The sanctuary city is right, and then the mayor in 243 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: New York and Chicago are screaming bloody murder. And Eric Adams, 244 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York, is sending them to Rockland County, 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: which is a suburban area north of New York. And 246 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: the people who run those towns are going no, no way. 247 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: In fact, one town declared the state of emergency to 248 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: keep them out and said, we're not accepting them. We 249 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: have nowhere to put them, we have no money to 250 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: take care of them. And this is not something we're 251 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: putting up with. I mean, this is They knew it 252 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: was chaos that the president or what's left of him 253 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: is promoting, and all the activists in his administration. And 254 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: normally when you have something this radical, at least it 255 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: would be at least the media would cover it in 256 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: a straight ahead manner, just say this is what's happening, 257 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: but now they're ignoring much of it, and when they 258 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: do cover it, they lie about it or they mislead people. 259 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: It's terrible, and most people Fox News is covering it 260 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: beautifully and accurately, and they don't cover everything accurately, but 261 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: on this one they are. But most people, as big 262 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: as their audience is, most people are not watching Fox News, 263 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: and the other media outlets are simply lying, covering up, 264 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: or distorting. 265 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: The story so much. Something Mike's doing a good thing. 266 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: We've talked about this before, though. 267 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,479 Speaker 2: Most people in most states are just not directly impacted 268 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: by this. When the country begins to change a bit 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: with the influx of migrants into these city, they'll notice 270 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: some changes. But for now, they don't live in Texas, 271 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: they don't live near the border. They don't live in 272 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Arizona or even California. And you know what kind of 273 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: a shrug to the story. 274 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: You know what he as a headline. It doesn't sound good, 275 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: but it's like. 276 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: But if there was a lot of news coverage, things 277 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: would change. You remember when they got years ago, when 278 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: George Bush tried this open border's policy and there ended 279 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: up being here in La a big parade for immigrants, 280 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and that shocked the rest of the country. It got 281 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: real national coverage and people around the country couldn't believe 282 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: how many illegal immigrants had come here to Los Angeles, 283 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and that put a real spike strip in the way 284 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: of Bush's plan to have a massive illegal immigration. 285 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: Except that he wanted. He wanted to the end. That 286 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: was his first amnesty program that he was proposing. We 287 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: told you that there's. 288 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: A report that they're releasing some of the migrants without 289 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: dates and without any tracking mechanisms. The Washington Times is 290 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: also reporting that Immigration and Customs Enforcement is releasing hundreds 291 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: of criminals to clear space to detain some of the migrants. 292 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: They're releasing illegal immigrants, including those with criminal records, so 293 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: they can clear space for the migrants coming in at 294 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: the border. Of course, we're being told, and haven't we 295 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: been told this before. They're low level criminals. 296 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. 297 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: I was reminded when Brandon Judd talked about who all 298 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: these activists have gotten positions in the Biden administration. You 299 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: know what I thought of George Gascone's office again, same thing. 300 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: He takes over the La County DA's office and brings 301 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: in public defenders and activists and the same thing DHS 302 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: is supposed to be about border security, but instead they're 303 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: bringing in the open border activists to run things and 304 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: need to determine bolists. 305 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: Activists are running the world here now they are They 306 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: represent a tiny fringe of opinion in America, but they 307 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: have infiltrated all the elite government operations, including the wad 308 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: White House. There is nothing in Joe Biden's record that 309 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: suggests he would govern this way. Nothing, and yet because 310 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: he is now senile, he has other people in the 311 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: administration activists hiring other activists to implement the most extreme 312 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: radical policies that the world has ever seen. Obama looks 313 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: like a right wing zealot compared to the Biden administration. 314 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really turned all right. 315 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: When we come back, very exciting news, The John and 316 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Ken Show will debut a brand new desk. 317 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: Is a vegan No, that's not a vegan desk, but 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: it's edible. I'm sorry. The universe does not nothing to 319 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: do with. 320 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Deborah see another fringe, gentlemen here. There are other topics 321 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: on the show. Another activist, but find. 322 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: Out what the desk is, and of course there's pretty 323 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: big news that goes with it. Johnny Ken kf I 324 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 325 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to Johnny Can on demand from KFI AM 326 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 327 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Are you considering running for president in twenty talks or 328 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, Not even considerably at all. 329 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: This election is a choice about life and death. We 330 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: need defeat trump Ism. This is the most consequential. 331 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Election they choose that as they self fear around crime, 332 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: they self come around these perverse gun laws. 333 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: What we've got right now is not working and it's 334 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: about to break. And look at this sewage that is 335 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: online that they amplify on these networks and in social 336 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: media to dehumanize people. 337 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: This whole damn border to date is made up. 338 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: That's how extreme the Republican Party is in the United 339 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: States of America. 340 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: It's time to organize, guys, bottom up, not just top down. 341 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Republicans have been organizing bottom up forever. 342 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 6: Where the hell are we as a party to capture 343 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 6: the narrative. 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: I honestly, if I were offering political. 345 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Advice, I'd tell him to pack up and wait a 346 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: few years. 347 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: I never trust politicians, So I get why should keep asking? 348 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: So when I see you in Iowa in twenty twenty three, 349 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: I will say this for you. The answer South Carolina, 350 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna where with else? 351 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 7: And know John and Knton present the Gavin Newsom is 352 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 7: running for president desk, Gavin Newsom maybe sort of running 353 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: for president. Well maybe Gavin Newsom not running for president. 354 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: There you go, it's confusing. Gavin Newsom not running for president. 355 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: We weren't sure what they call. 356 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: The desk since you know, he's just as confusing in 357 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: real life as his speech. 358 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's not what people do, it's what people say. 359 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: It's what they do. 360 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: But both of his confusing things he does are confusing. 361 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: Things he says make no sense. Well, and he's talking 362 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: about him over the weekend with a New Yorker who 363 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: asked me if he's going to run for president? I said, 364 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: who the hell knows. You can't even understand him when 365 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: he talks. 366 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: How would you know? 367 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: He also has no sense of humor? Oh no, No, 368 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: people like fun edge to him at all. People like 369 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: that fascinate me. 370 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: People with no sense of humor none, Yeah, and a 371 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of them become progressives. 372 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: There's one clip in that desk that is the best. 373 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you picked it out, John. It 374 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: came a few months ago. This whole border debate is 375 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: made up. 376 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: Why have we just been the last. 377 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Half hour talking about perfect Huh? 378 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: This whole border debate is made up? 379 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: You know what? 380 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: Oh is it really gathering? You know what? That shows 381 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: you what a lion, stinking gas bag he is. But 382 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: he tells stupid lies. 383 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: It's one thing to do spin lies, right, A good 384 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: spin lie has has some truth to it, but avoids 385 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: the main point. It changes the subject, it deflex but 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: his are stupid lies. It's like this border issue is 387 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: made up. But stop it go home. 388 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, the reason we trotted out the desk it's it's 389 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: brand new and obviously it deals a lot with this 390 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: idiot and his attempt to raise his national profile. 391 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: And I think John was onto something. 392 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago. A big news came out 393 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: last night. It came from kr KCR television channel three 394 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area. Newsom issued a statement to that 395 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: TV station and this is what made news Reparation task 396 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: Force recommendations. As you know, we have a task force 397 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: that was assigned by Newsom back in twenty twenty to 398 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: study the idea of reparations for the history of slavery 399 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: and discrimination against Black Californians. So the statement from Newsom 400 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: was dealing with that legacy is about much more than 401 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: cash payments. Many of the recommendations put forward by the 402 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: task force are critical action items we've already been hard 403 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: at work addressing. 404 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: Well. 405 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: Immediately, many media outlets, particularly right wing outlets, seized on 406 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: that to say, oh, no money. 407 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: Newsom doesn't like the idea of cash bags. 408 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: And you said the other day, if he's going to 409 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: run for president, this is a non starter. 410 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: This says zero percent support east of Oakland. This is 411 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: the worst possible thing to run on. He might as 412 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: well throw in defund the police and run on that too. 413 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: That's nuts. So I knew he wasn't going to do 414 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: it because he really wants to be president. 415 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: Well, we also have a huge deficit problem. 416 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: He's supposed to announce any moment now his budget revise. 417 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: We're looking at a possible thirty billion dollar deficit. 418 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: You can't be handing out all this money right now, 419 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 3: no down payments, no nothing. 420 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: So Black Californians who wanted this to go through and 421 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: all the activists. Newsom played you. He scammed you. He 422 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: got your hopes up, made you believe for months and 423 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: months and months that the big commission was coming, the 424 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Task Force on the hell he calls this thing. There 425 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: were all going to be the points of reparations number one, 426 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: reparations so big that the state was going to spend 427 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: billions and billions and billions of dollars without end in 428 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: order to rectify all the wrongs from eighteen fifty two. 429 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: And there wasn't any chance of that. He completely manipulated 430 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: your emotions and your hopes. He scammed you. He was 431 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: completely insincere every step of the way. He was happy 432 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: for the commission to give the impression that big money 433 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: was coming. The media certainly amplified every little twitch that 434 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: committee made, the legislature was all set to approve it, 435 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: and then he brought the hammer downs. 436 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, Well there's more. 437 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: The statement that he issued was picked up by media 438 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: outlets including Fox News Digital, The Washington Examiner, the California Globe. 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: As you can see, I'm going through the right wing 440 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: site to say that Newsom's backing off from the reparations payments. Well, 441 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: that led to a Newsom spokeshole to issue a statement 442 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: today a Newsom's chief communication advisor, what a title that is? 443 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: Anthony York said, well, I want to clarify the governor's 444 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: not backing away from the cash payments, but wants to 445 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: wait for the report in its entirety to arrive on 446 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: his desk before before he makes any decision. 447 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: So we tried the old Well we still need to 448 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: think about this. 449 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Uh, he backed away. He doesn't need to see the report. 450 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: He knows exactly how much money it would cost, and 451 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: he's not going to pay it. He's going to run 452 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: for present. 453 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: He's not here. 454 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: He's like Garcetti. He's not here to govern California. He's 455 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: here to run for president. He's not here for to 456 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: pass black reparations. No, he's here to give black people 457 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the impression that he understands their history and their pain. 458 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: To give that impression, he's not actually going to do anything. 459 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: Right back, when he assigned this task force in twenty twenty, 460 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: we just had the horrible George Floyd story, so it 461 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: seemed like a good symbolic thing to do, you know, 462 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: version signaling. Three years later, they come back with, oh 463 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: my god, how many billions of dollars were more than 464 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: twice our budget. 465 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: We have a deficit right now, one hundreds of billions 466 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: of dollars. 467 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: Does anybody really think that California was going to spend 468 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: hundreds of billions of dollars on an issue that was 469 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: declared unconstous institutional in California in eighteen fifty. 470 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: It was never legal in California. 471 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Never When the state became a state in eighteen fifty, 472 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: they wrote a constitution upon statehood. In the constitution was 473 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: an amendment immediately banning slavery. So there wasn't one minute 474 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: in California's statehood where it was legal. 475 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: That doesn't apparently we still had it from what I said, Well. 476 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: Yes it was. It wasn't necessarily enforced everywhere. But but 477 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: you are right. 478 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: They took that and they expanded the definition of reparations. 479 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: Now it's more current discrimination, things like redlining, things like 480 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: the war on drugs and imprisoning young black people. Did 481 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: you see all the expanded things they put in there. 482 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, it if the people not just the history of slavery, 483 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: It depends if the people in prison did not commit crimes. 484 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: Well, but they got too much time to see and 485 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: they lost part of their life. 486 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Well, that was the law then, and maybe you shouldn't 487 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: do the crime. If you told me that I'd get 488 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: ten years in prison for eating cherries, I'm not going 489 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: to eat any cherries. 490 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a problem with that anyway. You 491 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: eating cherries, You eating cherries. 492 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: I have had a cherries about not eating hamburger. 493 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: That could be a more big task for you. All right, 494 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: that's a that's a better comparison than cherries. Yes, do 495 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: you think I would be eating hamburgers if there was 496 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: a ten year prison since? 497 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: No? 498 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would secretly eat them. Yeah, and 499 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: you're bunker, don't. 500 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 3: You think so? Debora? 501 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you think John could give up 502 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: hamburgers just because it's against quote the law. 503 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: No, I would think I was being tailed and recorded. 504 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: You would do your thing about how the government cannot 505 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: suppress me life. I wouldn't go for ten years in prison, though, 506 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 3: I'll sit there and hide in the corner with my hamper. 507 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: We need to put hidden cameras in there. No, that's 508 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: the thing. You guys would turn me in. Oh, definitely 509 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: would lead the job, right, she'd be the first one all. 510 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: Right, we got more coming up Johnny KENKFI AM six forty. 511 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 512 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 513 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 5: AM sixty. 514 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: Bie. 515 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock, Alex Stunne will be our 516 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: guest to ABC News. He's got more in a story 517 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: we did talk about yesterday, the Utah woman who is 518 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: now charged with murdering her husband. He died in March 519 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: of last year, and they are now believing that she 520 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: poisoned him with fentanyl. She actually wrote a book about 521 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: how to deal with the grief, especially with their young children, 522 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: following her husband's deaths. She got a lot of interviews 523 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: and notoriety for it, and then the stutter this week 524 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: they believe she killed her husband. 525 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Best misdirection play I've ever seen in a case like this. 526 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I kill him? None is she off them. 527 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: She tried to make money off of his death by 528 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: writing a book about grief. 529 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: Ft out a book, yes and doubly a grief about 530 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: how your children can deal with grief. 531 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: Wow. I mean that makes you absolutely bulletproof. Nobody would 532 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: ever suspect you. Wow. 533 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: So we'll see what Alex pas on the story after 534 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: two o'clock. 535 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: All right, well, we've been talking a lot about scammers. 536 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: We have a governor that's quite the scammer, letting people 537 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: believe that, you know, we're going to give out cash 538 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: reparations money. 539 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: Now he looks like he's backing off on the idea. 540 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Does everyone on that reparations commission feel like a fool today? 541 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: They must all feel like a fool. You're all taken in, 542 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: You're all scammed. He'll never do that. 543 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: This story from Fox eleven reporter Maria Teller's is different, 544 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: but it does deal with what may be the beginnings 545 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: of more complicated ways to scam you out of your 546 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: money by making you believe that you are communicating with 547 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: a legitimate customer service rep from a bank. 548 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: Here is the story. It was very, very elaborate. 549 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: It all started with a text message immediately followed by 550 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 6: a phone call that color Id identified as Wells Fargo 551 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 6: from Wells Fargo's bona fide customer service line. 552 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: It's an eight hundred number. 553 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 6: Thirty one year old Katie Callaway is familiar with as 554 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 6: Wells Fargo customer. 555 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 8: I've spoken with Wells Fargo in the past. Where they 556 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 8: needed to confirm my identity, so it seemed very standard procedure. 557 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: Callaway, who works in the text space and feels well 558 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 6: versed in it, says the man on the line was 559 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 6: professional and convincing. She says nothing about it seemed like 560 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 6: the scams she often warns her parents about. 561 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 8: I believe that the bank was actually calling me and 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 8: notifying me of some fraudulent charges on my account. I 563 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 8: told them no, I had not been purchasing xyz and 564 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 8: best Buy, and all they needed was just for me 565 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 8: to verify one text message they sent to me to 566 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 8: confirm the identity on my account. 567 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 6: That single text message, she responded to, instantly initiated a 568 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 6: wire transfer of else over forty two hundred dollars every 569 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: penny that was in her checking account. 570 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 8: And unfortunately, online wire transfers also have fees associated with them, 571 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 8: so I was charged wired fees. 572 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 6: Wells Fargo's response to Galloway reads, in part, you are 573 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 6: responsible for online wires, whether or not actually authorized by you. 574 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 6: We are unable to reimburse you and have closed your claim. 575 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 6: A frustrated Callaway says she's not done. She's filed the 576 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 6: police report with LAPD. 577 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 8: The fact that Wells Fargo's information was able to be 578 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 8: spoofed so easily is really disconcerting. 579 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: And while she knows she may not get her money back, 580 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: she's hoping her story helps save others hard earn money. 581 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: So my account had. 582 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 8: That much at that time in it, but someone else 583 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 8: could have, you know, their whole life savings in one 584 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 8: account and have it happen to them, which is really scary. 585 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 6: And one single text message. Now, we reached out to 586 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 6: Wells Fargo for a statement. They tell us they are 587 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 6: taking another look at Callaway's case and they will issue 588 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 6: a statement tomorrow. 589 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: I wont if they issued a statement, because that report 590 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: was yesterday. 591 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: I've been checking no and Martays was filling in for 592 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Shannon today and I was talking with her yesterday and 593 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: that they haven't issued a statement, they haven't given an update, 594 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: and they absolutely should reimburse this woman for her four 595 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in losses. How can you have a system 596 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: where someone can can can send you a link that 597 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: automatically sends out a wire transfer And I was trying 598 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: to figure that out because it was an immediate wire transfer, 599 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: which means they must have had some kind of electronic 600 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: form all set up, and then there was something about 601 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: clicking the link that filled it in and sent it. 602 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: And how is that? 603 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: How is that not Wells Fargo's fault because they went 604 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: cheap on a security system, which is usually what happens. 605 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: I've read these scammers are going to be using, if 606 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: they're not already using artificial intelligence to worm their way through. 607 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: And I would imagine that scammers are going to have 608 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: to get better because maybe their hit rate is not 609 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: really what it was with their scam ideas, whether it's 610 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: texts or phone calls. 611 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: So this sounds like somebody came up with a. 612 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: More elaborate way to really make you believe that this 613 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 2: is legit. 614 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: So all they needed was for me to. 615 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Verify, verify what I'm reading the story here, and I 616 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: know I'm not really following this story too. 617 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, verify her identity. I don't know if she gave 618 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: it her bank account number over the phone. She thought 619 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: she was talking to a Well's Fargo agent because the 620 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: phone rang and it said Wells Fargo on the top 621 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: of the phone, right. 622 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: And they told her that some fraudulent charges were on 623 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: her accounts, and all she had to do was verify 624 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: the account. She says she did that, and that's set 625 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: off the wire transfer? Is am I reading that right now? 626 00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, she verified the account and then she gets a 627 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: a text. Uh. Let me see. Start with a text 628 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: message and then a phone call. The phone call had 629 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: the customer service line number on it, and the guy 630 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: was very professional callaway didn't notice anything suspicious, So. 631 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: The scammer was able to mimic the actual Wells Fargo 632 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: customer service line as an incoming call. 633 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: That's how I read that. Yes, that's pretty elaborate. Yes, 634 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 3: and and uh. 635 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: And then then I was able to spoofer or hocket 636 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: or something, and the text message came in at the 637 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: same time. 638 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: Wow. I so yeah. 639 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: I can't tell exactly how this happened, but clearly Wells 640 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: Fargo has a big glitch in its system. Oh yeah, 641 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: that's probably why they're holding off, and they just don't 642 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: want to make it sound like good lord. 643 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 644 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: Well Wells Fargo hasn't always been the most customer friendly 645 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: bank if you if you google them. A few years ago, 646 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: they had to pay three point seven billion dollars in 647 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: fines and reparations because their employees were opening up fake 648 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: bank accounts to get bonus, says yeah, I remember that, 649 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe they have some 650 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: of the same executives still working there. 651 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just done on another quick note 652 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: by the way, and I have to look this up 653 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: because I don't know this is true. I've been getting 654 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: a lot of spam calls in the last few weeks, 655 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: so I finally been blocking them all. Guess what, I'm 656 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: getting more than ever? So is it possible that when 657 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: you block the call, they figured out that you're an actual, 658 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: real live number and it just sets off more. 659 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 3: Oh, I hadn't thought of that. 660 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm beginning to I'm getting more than I've ever gotten. 661 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: I got seven today alone, and I'm blocking them all 662 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: and they just keep coming. 663 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: Because remember some weeks ago, when we applied for a mortgage, yes, 664 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: and the mortgage went I was blocking them right well, yeah, 665 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: because it went on a public data base that mortgage 666 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: brokers can access immediately, and I was getting about sixty 667 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: calls a day, and then by the second day I 668 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: started blocking everything and as at this moment, one hundred 669 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: percent they've all gone away. 670 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: Did it worked for you? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just. 671 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Felt, well, I was dealing with real mortgage companies though 672 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: trying to contact me. 673 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 674 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: These are just an assortment from all over the country. 675 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: It says spam or telemarket and just keep blocking them. 676 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: But I just feel like since I started doing. 677 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: That, I'm getting more of them. Yeah, and it's autoboutic 678 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: computer dialing too. I know they can load everybody's phone 679 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: number on every random phone number possible and just set 680 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: it on automatic. 681 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: When we come back. 682 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: The wild story out of Utah about a woman's now 683 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: accused of killing her husband fentanyl too by giving them 684 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: an alcoholic drink the spike with fentanyl, and she went 685 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: on to write a book about dealing with grief. Alex 686 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: Stille with Phillis and John KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere, 687 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 688 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: And Debra Mark Live in the twenty four hour Cafe Isram. Hey, 689 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 690 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 691 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 692 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.