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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 3: Whoa of the I'm definitely not ready, but let's go. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's how you get ready.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is one of the ways that we do this.

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Speaker 2: I've I've only set this thing up to go four rounds.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to go deep, deep, deep.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but because by round four and be like, give

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Speaker 3: me the best corner.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who yet. You know. Here's what, here's

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Speaker 2: how we're going to do this. We've got Senior Bowl round.

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Speaker 2: We get the Senior Bowl coming up in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: We got to start getting ready for that. I've been

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Speaker 2: This is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: But where does the Steelers pick that's should be firmed up.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com mock drafter here

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Speaker 2: there at twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Do we know that tonight matter is that much? I

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Speaker 2: Well, the Rams could still finish. I guess they were

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Speaker 2: How I would address the off season, I would sign

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Speaker 3: And if I can replace them with a much more talented,

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback at a Notre Dame, is still there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, please watch him next Monday. Well he's hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Another playmaker. And people say, oh, don't you don't take

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Speaker 3: It's an awesome running back draft. Again, subject would change

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty seventeen draft was loaded with running backs.

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Speaker 2: the Christian McCaffrey at three in that draft was a

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Speaker 3: He is a strong case.

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Speaker 2: He is a very good player. Uh, you got Tyleek Williams,

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, a quality starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just first try with this whole.

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Speaker 2: We're up at fifty two. The top players available. Kenneth Grant,

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Speaker 3: He would be a nice fit. Yes, room together, there

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Speaker 3: Fast but small Yeah, small dinner.

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Speaker 2: He was again missed a large portion of this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he seems like they're type of guy.

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Speaker 3: Now I wouldn't have thought first two picks on defense,

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Speaker 2: To be two butt kickers, and you're gonna be sick.

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Speaker 3: Of the folks are gonna be sick of me saying this.

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Speaker 2: Remember the idea when we went into this is you're

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have the pass rushers you need to

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Speaker 2: I want Blitzburg back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and but the only way I can do that

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Speaker 2: So we've taken cornerback defensive tackle nose ish. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how we'd go defense here.

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Speaker 3: The other defensive spot that I'd even consider is a

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Speaker 2: You know. But I think this has to be offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the top players available who are offensive players, Well,

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Speaker 2: Kyraen Lacy is the first guy on there, but he

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Speaker 2: just got arrested for running somebody over and or wrecking

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Speaker 3: You know, like, does that guy see the field for

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Speaker 3: you know where? Yeah, the Penn State dude would this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this almost has to be a running back at this.

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Speaker 3: Point soon for sure. Yeah, I mean at a minimum.

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Speaker 2: So your top running backs available are Ollie Gordon from

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Speaker 3: I think something we'll agree on is you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Well Ollie Gordon's six twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five and from what I Again, I don't know these

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Speaker 3: bet several of them fit the bill. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially if you're well, you're gonna be You're

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Speaker 3: I think that's a very high on the list component.

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Speaker 2: That's the meaning why scatter Bow is very interesting. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now to play Devil's advocate, I gotta think somebody's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm not saying we don't take a

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Speaker 3: And this is another thing I haven't mentioned to you too,

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Speaker 3: And I say that because mel Kiper, who's been doing

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Speaker 2: I don't love little, yeah. Kyle McCord from Syracuse, pure

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for a star. I'm looking for somebody who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I don't want to take Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any of those guys excite you at all of time?

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Speaker 3: You O high state kids sort of did. The first

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Speaker 2: Well, the best guys available there are Gray's Abel from

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Speaker 3: Did we dis drafted Charles Grant? We did, But those

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Speaker 3: But I think that's something you can never be short on.

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Speaker 2: Got your choice? You know who do you like of

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Speaker 3: I don't know them well enough. Somebody with size and physicality.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: Pretty easy to root for, Pretty easy to root for.

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Speaker 3: And I mean he brings a lot of attitude and

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Speaker 3: a lot of physicality, and.

436
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Speaker 2: He would be an instant star in Pittsburgh. There'd be

437
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Speaker 2: a lot of Jerseys walking around, there'd be a lot

438
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: of scatter. He'll be that wherever he goes, because just

439
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 2: because of the style that he plays. But I think

440
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: he's a kind of exactly what they're looking for. I know,

441
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: I was listening to who.

442
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 3: The PFF dude Trevor who joined us, Yeah, and he

443
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: was doing the running back breakdown and he's like, I'm

444
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: watching Scatabo and I'm watching him, and I'm going, is

445
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: this guy just try harder than everybody else?

446
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: Is that why he's good?

447
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: And he meant it as a negative, like that's not

448
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: gonna work in the NFL. And he's like, then I

449
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: watched like five games and yeah, and it's gonna work

450
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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know who loves Scatabo, Max Starks loves Scatbo.

452
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Speaker 2: Arizona connection. I was he had done dat, but he

453
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: had done he had done some games, some Arizona State

454
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: games and on the radio, and I asked him about

455
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: Scatty was with guys.

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean him and Warren is a

457
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Speaker 3: nice backfield.

458
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Speaker 2: You got a lot of attitude, yeah, right right, Not

459
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: that Nase doesn't. Nause has the attitude, no question. He

460
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: is a hard ass runner. But he might be on

461
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Speaker 2: another team at this point. Yeah, all right, let's take Scatabo.

462
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: We took Scatabo. So now we're up at one twenty three.

463
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Speaker 2: Any of those quarterbacks, Silva, Curtis Rourke is still there,

464
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: cal McCord is still there.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's better than Alan. I mean, if that's

466
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: your three, might be your two. I'm talking about on

467
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: opening day, it's not gonna be your one.

468
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Speaker 2: The thing to me about Rourke, he elevated a program

469
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: that's that huge feather had no business being in the

470
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: college football playoffs. Yeah, yeah, and it was because of him.

471
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Speaker 3: I mean like ritterd did that with Cincinnati. Yeah, well

472
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: he didn't work out in the pros. But that's hard

473
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Speaker 3: to do. It's really hard to do it. And there's

474
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Speaker 3: a lot of instances of that. I don't know problem

475
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: with that now the other receiver of interest. The other

476
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: guy's available right now, Ollie Gordon is still there. May Yeah,

477
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I know there would have been backs we

478
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Speaker 3: like in this spot.

479
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Shamar Turner, the defensive tackle out of Texas A and

480
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: M too, Malachi Moore safety out of Alabama. Luke Lachie

481
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: the tight end out of Iowa. Can never go wrong

482
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: taking a tight end from Iowa.

483
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Speaker 3: His dad was a Pro Bowl offensive tackle. Yeah, Jim Leche, Yeah,

484
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: six six fifty three. You could convince me of a

485
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: tight end or a safety.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing. Yeah, I'm not seeing a lot of

487
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: receivers are pretty well picked over here at this point.

488
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Speaker 3: You said this, and it seems like it's true. It

489
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: doesn't seem as deep a receiver class. No heavy, Yeah,

490
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: it's a Dokay receiver class. It's always going to be.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't see anything there. I don't know

492
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: if Malachim More out of a Bama has any slut capability.

493
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: And he doesn't have to I mean, right make it

494
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: could play slot or you know.

495
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Because the other thing is is de Monte Kaz. Now,

496
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: you do have the draft pick from last year, the

497
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: Texas kid coming back missed the entire rookie seasons. Rookie season,

498
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: but he's been there the entire year in that locker

499
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: room learning. So maybe you have some high hopes.

500
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: You really have four draft picks that are going to

501
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: be rookies next year.

502
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't hurt.

503
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Speaker 3: Drinking, right. I know they like Logan le too, by

504
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Speaker 3: the way.

505
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. So to me, I think you go quarterback,

506
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: you take the tight end, or we look back at

507
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: the tackle.

508
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Speaker 3: I know about Lache, I like him. I think the

509
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 3: Iowa state and his dad's a Pro Bowl left tackle. Uh.

510
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: You tackles are Austin Barber from Florida, Marcus Mabou from Purdue,

511
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: Jack Nelson from Wisconsin, J C. Davis from Illinois.

512
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Again, I don't know this class for crap, but I

513
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 3: know draft after draft, if you don't take a tackle

514
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: now you might as well not. Yeah, I mean, like

515
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: they don't. Day three tackles aren't worth your time.

516
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Speaker 2: You know.

517
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're they're dried up.

518
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gotten. I mean those guys aren't even

519
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: ranked high on the list at this point. You'd be

520
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: reaching basically for that.

521
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Speaker 3: I like any of those picks, Rourke Lche or best

522
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Speaker 3: tackle available.

523
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Speaker 2: Let's take Lache.

524
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Speaker 3: Okay, we like the physical.

525
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: We like to play with a lot of tight ends

526
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Speaker 2: on the field. I don't have to go with an

527
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: another retread there. I can get another young guy in

528
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: the room.

529
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Speaker 3: Let's say it's not an expensive room at all. Fine

530
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: with that.

531
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Speaker 2: And are we done? That does it for the draft?

532
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: We came out of that with Will Johnson, the cornerback

533
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: out of Michigan, Kenneth Grant, a defensive tackle out of Michigan,

534
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Cam Scattabo running back from Arizona State, and tight end

535
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: Luke Lachi from Iowa.

536
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: Fie I may for test run number one. We got

537
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: a lot to talk through there as well. Yeah, yeah,

538
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: which is why we do this. That's why we do

539
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: it right, learn the names and discuss the how the

540
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: puzzle starts to fit together. Absolutely, usually this time of

541
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: year the puzzles clunky. But they also would have added

542
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: more free agency than just a receiver and brought back quarterback.

543
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can. They have just over fifty million dollars

544
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: in cap space as we sit here right now. They

545
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: can easily create enough cap space to get up over

546
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: eighty million pretty easily.

547
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: Which I bet they will. Yeah, so that's.

548
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: Where we're at. Let's get to a break. He is

549
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

550
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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We will

551
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: talk more about the season in general and where the

552
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: Steelers go after this when we come back on the Drive.

553
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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

554
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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

555
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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

556
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. And of course you can hear the

559
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: Drive every Monday through Friday from four to six pm.

560
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Including Well, we're gonna run this into well into the

561
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Speaker 2: off season. Here. We're gonna go at least through the

562
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Speaker 2: start of free agency, and heck, by the time we

563
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: get the free agency it's almost draft time. Right then

564
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Speaker 2: it's OTA's we're back on the air on a regular basis.

565
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: There's no time off.

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Speaker 3: Time off is Yeah, there's not much. There's a lot

567
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: going on and it's game tonight. I mean there's there's

568
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff going on.

569
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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that game tonight in our final

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Speaker 2: segment today.

571
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Speaker 3: But one of coaching hires today, coaching fire, I mean,

572
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: all kinds of there's always something to So.

573
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Speaker 2: Today was kind of a locker clean out day at

574
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Speaker 2: the Steelers facility for the players were available and T J.

575
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Watt spoke and one of the things that he mentioned,

576
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Speaker 2: he's like first voice says, look, somebody asked me if, hey,

577
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, do you do you foresee yourself being a Steeler?

578
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: And he says, I want to be here my entire career.

579
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Speaker 2: I want to be part of the solution to what

580
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Speaker 2: we do. I want to help Cam Hayward get to

581
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Speaker 2: where he needs to go. And and I thought he

582
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: was very very good with that, and so you know what,

583
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: how do you do that? What would be different?

584
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Speaker 3: And he said, you know what, I could be more

585
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: open to moving around on defense. He said, I you know,

586
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Speaker 3: I kind of balked at that in years past because

587
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: he likes to rush.

588
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: From that left side better. And I think part of

589
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: it too, is that he doesn't want to feel like

590
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: he's above the other like, oh, I got to flip

591
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: sides with Alex here because I want to get this rush.

592
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: Well high Smith's going on the other side as well.

593
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or I gotta do this, except TJ doesn't

594
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: want to. Yeah, that kind of stuff, you know, the

595
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Speaker 3: Steam guys he always is, yeah, he said, But it's interesting.

596
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Speaker 2: But it did make it very easy lining up strictly

597
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: almost strictly on the left side, for teams to take

598
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: him out of the game.

599
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's just becomes such a trend that you

600
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: move guys around. I mean, that's what the league is doing.

601
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: The guys I think are the best or Crosby, Bosa, Parsons, Garrett,

602
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: they don't line up at one spot.

603
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: But one of the things that those guys have to

604
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Speaker 2: watch point they don't have the second guy right, they're

605
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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson's like the only one that always aligns right. Yeah,

607
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: and he still is productive. Good for him and as

608
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: this TJ. But I think it would free him up

609
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: more and.

610
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Speaker 2: It would make them more difficult to scheme against.

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Speaker 3: You just know where he's Yeah, I mean, if I'm

612
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: going to keep a tight end to the right, I'm

613
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: gonna keep a running back to the right.

614
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: I know what I'm getting right, And I would I

615
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: would muddle huddle it a little bit more. Not Hey, TJ.

616
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: You don't line up until you know there's ten seconds

617
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: left on the clock and then let them try to

618
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: adjust to where you're.

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Speaker 3: At and just force their hand a little bit more,

620
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: play fast pre snap all that.

621
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Speaker 2: It's almost a Troy Paula Malu like thing. And you

622
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: know where's he at? Well, he's over here. Well when

623
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: the ball snapped, he's over there. Yeah, you know. It

624
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: just makes it so hard on the on the offense

625
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: if you if you.

626
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Speaker 3: Move that, you think about, yeah, the offense, and if

627
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Speaker 3: you get let's say, over the course of the season

628
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Speaker 3: you do that, he's moving around more and you force

629
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Speaker 3: three timeouts and two false starts or three timeouts and

630
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: the clock play clock runs out because they didn't get that,

631
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: that didn't get that done in time. I mean it

632
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: might sound like nothing, but if you force three more

633
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: one on one blocks for TJ watta game, that's only

634
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: thirty six or that's not thirty six. That's more than

635
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: that three times about twelve game season in the nineteen

636
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: seventy two. But still, I mean, that's going to result

637
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 3: in a lot of production. I mean, he has an

638
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: unbelievably difficult road to the quarterback and if you can

639
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: make it any easier, to be honest, that's why I'm

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: stressing so much on this man corners, because if you

641
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: bring six, he's against a back once in a while,

642
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, I just you don't have to blitz to

643
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: rush the passer. This group doesn't. It's so good. But

644
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: if I can, no matter what I can do to

645
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: get him one on ones, it's gonna result in good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know that. Yeah, And so you know

647
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: that's one thing that the Steelers can do moving forward

648
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: to be better in these kinds of r what's your

649
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: best players in positions to make plays?

650
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Speaker 3: And I don't think he ever said no, I'll never

651
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: do it, but he was really comfortable in one spot,

652
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Speaker 3: and they moved them there for a reason.

653
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: It might be time to look at me. And you know,

654
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: prior to the season, he had been really, really good,

655
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: and he was good this season, right, Let's not pretend

656
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: that he wasn't.

657
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's declining, but it just made

658
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: him It made him too easy.

659
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: And yes, offenses had to designate two or three players

660
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: to doing it.

661
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: Right, so he had immense value even if he wasn't

662
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: swatting passes are getting sacks.

663
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: But I think it could be better if you move

664
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: start moving him around a little bit.

665
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And some of it's even I don't know.

666
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: Eagles are a great example.

667
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: They have two really good tackles, but maybe high Smith's

668
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: better against Lane than he is Malata, you know what

669
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the other guy involved too, like or

670
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: maybe they're a bad example because they have two really

671
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: good tackles, but there's a right tackle doing a decent

672
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: job against Watt who's a really good player, but his stylistically,

673
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm not explaining this. Well, high Smith and Water are

674
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: different players, you know, like maybe their strength would work

675
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: out better against the right tackle as opposed to the

676
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: left tackle. Look out, Yeah, I mean, like bud Dupree

677
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: was a power rusher. Well maybe the right tackle doesn't

678
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: deal with power rushers and you flop them and those.

679
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Just like, play the strengths.

680
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: Play the strengths make yourself more difficult to defend and

681
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: their scheme against. And I think that goes a long

682
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: way because it allows you to just be more as

683
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin likes to say, thoughtfully, non rhythmic exactly.

684
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: I think the defense got way to rhythmic. Yeah, and that.

685
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Made it easier to.

686
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: Beat the talents there. But you need to put those

687
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: guys in better positions.

688
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, we mentioned getting more pass catchers, more guys

689
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: who catch the football, and I think that's going to

690
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: be the that's going to be the emphasis I think

691
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: of the entire offseason getting this offense to a point

692
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: where it I don't care who the quarterback is. Yeah,

693
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: you got to have more pass catchers.

694
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: More playmaking receivers of any sort.

695
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

696
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: I think that's they're lacking, you know. I mean, I

697
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: think they would be the first to tell you they're lacking.

698
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: I think they tried to address it. It didn't all

699
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: worked out brilliantly, you know, And I'm not sure trading

700
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: for Ayuk would have mattered or any of those things.

701
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: But I think that they're not done or I don't

702
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: think it's an organizational philosophy of we're okay there, we'll

703
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: just cut corners. A pass catcher, I don't think I

704
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: think this off seats will be very different that way.

705
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so as well. And again I think

706
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: that has to be a veteran wide receiver, not just

707
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: because you can't you can't guess what you're going to

708
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: get into the in the draft and whether that guy's

709
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: going to make an immediate impact. Sometimes they do, sometimes

710
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: they don't. Right, I don't want to guess.

711
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: It's a good place to shop, but it's not fool proof.

712
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean think of where we were

713
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: at last year on Roman Wilson. After the raft. Well, okay,

714
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: he'll come in and catch fifty passes, right then he

715
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: didn't and he didn't, right, Yeah, because he was you know,

716
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: you just don't know you're getting a you're getting a

717
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: complete unknown.

718
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: In many cases, Patriots took Polk early. He looked like

719
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: a really safe double.

720
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: And sixteen catches all year. Struggled all right, the uh

721
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: the kid for who did I see yesterday? They played yesterday?

722
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to remember Tampa McMillan. McMillan's okay, there's

723
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Millan's been good. Yeah, there was a lot of these

724
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: guys there was another rookie that that really didn't do.

725
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one of those games that

726
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: I saw.

727
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: I man, kay On Coleman hasn't lit the world on fire. Yeah,

728
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: there's been a couple of them. Was the first round

729
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: pick Pierce aw I didn't like the world on fires.

730
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 3: First round pick. Worthy hasn't let the world on fires,

731
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: first round pick. You know, I don't think those teams

732
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: are unhappy with them. I mean, it's shopping on Day

733
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: one and two. You'll get receivers, but I think they

734
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: need an instant fix.

735
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody that can come in and make

736
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: an impact, not just on.

737
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: The fields, some leadership too.

738
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: But some Yeah I want to I want to veteran

739
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: guy in that in that wide receiver room. And you know,

740
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: it has to be somebody with some gravitas, somebody who's

741
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: done some stuff in the league.

742
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: Into a Pro Bowl, counter passes whatever.

743
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, like this is how, this is how you

744
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: do this stuff. Ye, And it's George Pickens on the

745
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: football field, and he's not been a problem off the field.

746
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: I think there's a miss there's.

747
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: A misconception he's not getting arrested and.

748
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's not doing bad stuff off the field.

749
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: He's doing what he needs. He's just George don't do

750
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, we don't need There's still volatility. Yeah, there's

751
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: still volatility there that you know, somebody to talk him

752
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 2: down off the off the leg at times.

753
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: Like Heyward Bay provided a lot of that. Now, he

754
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: wasn't a premier one or two receiver, but he had

755
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: value behind the scenes too. I was a former first

756
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: round pick, came in the league, thought I could like

757
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: the world on fire, had to reinvent myself as a gunner,

758
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: special team or you know, listen to me, kiddo. I

759
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: might be able to teach you a thin or two

760
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 3: right let alone, if it's someone that's a high end player.

761
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that that's a big part of

762
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: this as well.

763
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be easier said than done. There's

764
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: a lot of teams that could use receivers that are

765
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: going to be competing. It's easy just to say, oh,

766
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: they'll sign Chris Godwin. Well, the Patriots and Chargers might

767
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: have something to say about some.

768
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Other teams, right Yeah. I don't think they're going to

769
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: go out and you know, blow the blow the entire

770
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: one let's go get T Higgins. Yeah, you know, I know,

771
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: every thinking more and more he's going to stay in

772
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: sin too, Everybody, I gotta go get T Higgins. Got

773
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna be thirty plus million dollars and it'd.

774
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: Be a wonderful edition. Yeah, you also got to beat

775
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 3: the Patriots and Chargers and other teams on them. Everybody

776
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: else feels the same way. Since he might just franchise

777
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: them again. They could, they could. I don't think that

778
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: would be the right move for them, right right, they could,

779
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: they could. So anyways, it's easy to aim big in

780
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: free agency in January. Yes, let's just look at the list.

781
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: Who's the top two? I think take both of those guys.

782
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them don't even hit free agency. Yeah,

783
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: we'll take the top Wader receiver, We'll take the top

784
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: running back.

785
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: We'll do the Byron market in the corner. Get him

786
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: to understand it works that way in Madden. You know,

787
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: so everybody thinks that's the way it works. It's not

788
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: thirty other teams thinking the same thing. Yeah, and the

789
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: player has to want to. Let's say he's been a

790
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: West Coast guy his entire life. Maybe he doesn't want

791
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: to move to the East Coast.

792
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, you know he doesn't like your scheme or

793
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: whatever it is right where he's you know, I really

794
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: like it. My wife really likes it. Where I'm at,

795
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: I don't. I'll take less money to stay here my kids.

796
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: I want to go back home. I want to go

797
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: back to where I you know, I grew up at.

798
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: The team that has them doesn't plan to let them go.

799
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: There's always that too.

800
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: These guys get signed before it even happens.

801
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: Now there also will be players that are cut. Yes,

803
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: they aren't on the list yet, you.

804
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Know, so all that stuff was still going to happen here.

805
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: But I just thought that was interesting that what said

806
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: that today? Yeah, great, and uh, you know, we'll see

807
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: where that that continues to develop here as the off

808
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: season goes on. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lawley.

809
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810
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,000
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811
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: Steelers Mobile app and watch our show on YouTube as well.

812
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,799
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813
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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale, Lolly and Matt Williamson on

815
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven, home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

817
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

818
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. We got a couple of tweets here

819
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Speaker 2: from people. First of all, Michael Edesso, big fan, He's

820
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: a good dude. Yeah yeah, retweeted that the Steelers are

821
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Speaker 2: actually locked in at number twenty one. That's done there,

822
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: that's done. So it's Tampa Bay, then Denver and Pittsburgh.

823
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Speaker 3: Okay of the eliminated playoffs. Yeah, gotcha.

824
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: And then Steelers retro asks listening to today's drive, is

825
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: corner more of a need in the draft than a

826
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: dynamic offensive playmaker? I think it's a conversation, I really do.

827
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: That's when we talked about that. We said, Okay, we're

828
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: already assuming that we've gone out and signed a wide receiver,

829
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: right somebody?

830
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and they may have signed a corner too.

831
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean, the two spots that I quarterback aside two

832
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: spots i'd consider spending money and a reasonably big picket item.

833
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: Maybe not Higgins or Dion Sander. I mean, like its

834
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: corner and receiver. Yeah, I mean I think that those

835
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: are being lovely to knock out one or both before

836
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: the draft of I really like this new edition. Yeah,

837
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: I don't know which is bigger. I would probably say

838
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: receiver just in terms of what you have on the roster,

839
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: But at the moment, Corey Trice is your number two

840
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: who I'm kind of excited about, but I'm not trusting.

841
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: And frankly, I think the missing component of playing defense

842
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: schematically the way you want to is a second man to.

843
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: Man corner, a second man to man corner. And I

844
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind a guy even if he is a guy

845
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: that lines up outside in your base defense and then

846
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: bumps inside and you're.

847
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: Is capable like a Marlin Humphrey, Yeah type of player. Right,

848
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: they can do both, That would be great, especially you're

849
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: gonna spend money on one, right, right, Right, No, I

850
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: think that's in the cards or should be strongly considered.

851
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at the news of the day, there's a lot. Yeah,

852
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: there's a little bit there because, uh, well, Mike McCarthy

853
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: out in Dallas.

854
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: Strangely, I can't think of a situation where he's a

855
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: true free agent.

856
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's not we fired you. His contract runs

857
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: out tomorrow, right.

858
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: They're just not going to extend him. You know, like

859
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: it sounded like they want to hit him with the

860
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: franchise tag, you know, keep him on a one year deal,

861
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: a two year deal.

862
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I understandably, he wants I won a

863
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: lot of games this league.

864
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: I want a long term contract because for people don't know,

865
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of the time when a coach gets fired,

866
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 3: they get paid next year. Right, they can go to

867
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Speaker 3: the beach and still get a check or whatever, and

868
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Speaker 3: they can do whatever they want.

869
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: If Kingsbury is still getting paid by Arizona to be

870
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders, Yeah, right, right.

871
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: McCarthy is a free agent. You know, we're here's a

872
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: contract offer. And I kind of thought a bit of

873
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: a Dallas trend. They're a little late to sign their

874
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: premier spots.

875
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: They like to wait.

876
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were late on DAK, they were late on Lamb,

877
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: and they were late on this. Whether they wanted to

878
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: bring them back or not.

879
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. The Eagles lost linebacker Nakobe Dean for the

880
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: rest of the playoffs, and that wines in the next year.

881
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, well you tearing it late injury.

882
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: They have an injury like that at this point in

883
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: the year, it's usually wait, wait.

884
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm missing, But did any of the other teams

885
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: that advanced lose anybody of note, Not that I'm aware of,

886
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, like the big injuries the.

887
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Teams they're playing. Yeah, I can't think of any that.

888
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: I don't think the Ravens got hit with anybody. I

889
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: don't remember the Bills getting hit hard. But Dean's a

890
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: big loss.

891
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: Now that's a huge one. Speaking of those kind of injuries.

892
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: I had a chance to talk to Troy Foltano today

893
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: really and he was chomping at the bit. Uh. He

894
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: is fired up. Said he's going to be ready for

895
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: OTAs aw really looking forward to getting back to playing

896
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: football because he hasn't gotten to do.

897
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: It much this year. Maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves.

898
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: But do you think he's now a left tackle? Uh?

899
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: He was asked about that and he said he's under it.

900
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: They haven't talked yeah, yeah stuff yet. He said he's

901
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: he's going into this assuming that that, you know, he's

902
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: going to be working at right tackle, which is where

903
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: he was working as a rookie. I mean, no one's

904
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: told him otherwise, right, and that stuff wouldn't have taken

905
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: place yet.

906
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: Then no, no, it's too early for that.

907
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: Exit interviews and everything.

908
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: If he got interviewed, someone had to ask something along

909
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: those lines. But there you go. Yeah, that's great. He's

910
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: ready to rock.

911
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: And Mike Rabol today introduced as the new head coach

912
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots. Shocking, well, nobody, nobody.

913
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good football coach. He's got a

914
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: lot of work to do. Yeah, a lot of work

915
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: to do. Not going to be easy. We'll get a

916
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: game tonight, Matt, Yeah, who you like? I think the Vikes.

917
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: I expect this one to be close, though. I think

918
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: this's could be a lot like Bucks Commanders, kind of

919
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 3: down to the wire. But I'm not willing to say, boy,

920
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: the Vikes got exposed by the Lions or Darnald turning

921
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: to a pumpkin all of a sudden. I still think

922
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: they're the better team. And I don't know if this

923
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: influenced the Chargers, but I've got to think the fires

924
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: and the tragedy is going on in their home city

925
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: can't be good for preparing for games.

926
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Speaker 2: I will say this, if you look at the Vikings

927
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: schedule this year, when they've played a good quarterback, when

928
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: they've played a true upper class not been good. Their

929
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: losses this year came against Detroit. Yeah, the Rams have

930
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: played this game. Everybody forgets about that one. And then

931
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Detroit again. If you look at the rest of their schedule,

932
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: they played.

933
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: The role carvy up type quarterbacks too.

934
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Speaker 2: The Giants, okay, not that, No, San Francisco not really right, Houston, well,

935
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: we saw that they were struggling with other stuff, right,

936
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: Green Bay m hm. The Jets, Uh, then you had

937
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: the Detroit, La, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Chicago, Arizona, Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle,

938
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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Detroit, Like, their schedule was not all that.

939
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: I think they were rough. Were they the last place team? No?

940
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: No, Chicago was right, but no, Chicago wasn't the doonesay went,

941
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Speaker 3: did a donzay or McCarthy go first because their first

942
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: pick was Carolina's? Maybe they were least I can't remember.

943
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: Actually they didn't have a difficult scatter. Yeah, but I

944
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: do think it's interesting that Goff and Stafford are the

945
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: ones that beat him, because I really like flores is

946
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: a quarter It's like crazy and he is aggressive to

947
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: no end. But those dudes have been around the block

948
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: that they sit back there and pick you apart from

949
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: the pockets can pick you that apart because they're not

950
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: the most talented defense in the league.

951
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: No they aren't. They just come and come and yeah,

952
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: and they did weird things. So it wouldn't surprise me

953
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: if the Rams actually won that foot wouldn't be either. Yeah,

954
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean Stafford has a huge game, He's got all

955
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: the weapons out there with him, Pooka Nakua goes crazy.

956
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't love the Viking Zoe line either, and that

957
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: young defensive front could cause problem. Yeah, a gain of

958
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: a great justin Jefferson answer, Yeah, should be a great game. No, I'

959
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: psyched about it, right absolutely.

960
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we got a Mike Tomlin press conference at

961
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: twelve thirty on Tuesday, that season ending wrap ups. We'll

962
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: have some maybe something to talk about coming out of that.

963
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: Those are usually pretty extensive. Yeah, it'll be a long

964
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Speaker 2: talk and then we won't hear from Mike Tomlin again

965
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Speaker 2: until we talked to him at the owners meetings in March.

966
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Speaker 3: Okay, but that'll be probably what we lead off with tomorrow.

967
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Speaker 2: Right. Absolutely, we'll have plenty to talk about coming out

968
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Speaker 2: of that, But that's going to do it for our

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Speaker 2: show today, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

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Speaker 2: here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard,

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Speaker 2: and for Tyler Vittmeyer making sure our video gets out

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Speaker 2: there on the YouTube. I'm Dale Lollie. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steeler's

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.