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The challenges you face in your life 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: are different. So stop reading other people's success stories and 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: start writing your own. Now. You can be motivated by 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: their success because their stories can offer direction and help 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 1: you reach your goals through your plan and committed effort. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: The Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to listen 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: about career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: and how to live a balanced life. Now, let's get 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: this show role. My next guest was born in Newton, 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I've known it for a very long time. 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: His cousin is Hall of Fame basketball players shop killing them. 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: While attending college, he majored in an economic at Ructors University. 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: He's built one of the most diverse acting resumes in Hollywood, 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: stand up comedy specials, Access Hollywood, Rachel Ray Hbos, Insecure, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: game show host films like Any Given Sunday, and Love Jones, 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: which is still my favorite movie that he has started in. 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: He is on the show to promote the new Netflix 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: limited series Self Made The Madame C. J. Walker Story, 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: which premieres in March twenty on Netflix. It starts Academy 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: Award winner Octavia Spencer, Blair Underwood, Tiffany Hattris. Please, welcome 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. The other star of Self Made 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: The Madame C. J. Walker Story, Bill Bellamy, thank you 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: for having me, res Man. You know it's funny, you know, 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: when you're working hard, you forget I'll even getting how 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: much stuff I've done. I just keep grinded, Bill, and 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Bill is shorten it. I had to shorten it, okay, 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: because we all know I'm being honest. Man. It's just like, 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's just let's hearing you say that that 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: you know the things that I've done. It just makes 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: me realize that, you know, all the hard work is 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: not in vain, and that the passion for the for 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: the craft of acting and comedy has been my you know, 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: sort of my engine to my longevity because I just 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: love doing it. Like you know, it's not like work 60 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: to me to to to be in projects and be 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: funny and stuff like that. And I guess you know, 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: it's been a secret recipe to you know, me being 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: a success, you know, in a part of my blueprint 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: in the entertainment business. You know, really special because we 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: see now so many comics and so many comedic actors 66 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: are not crossing over to the game show host or 67 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: led by Steve Harvey after Daswer, Michael straight heere. But 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: let's go back here. Let's go back Death Comedy Jam 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: when it popped off and then you crossed over the MTV. 70 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about every comic in America was looking at you, 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: going how you doing that? Yeah? How did he do that? Like? 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: How did he just jump lane? You know something? Just 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: you went from you went from Booty Call to mtvn't Yeah, 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: it was articulate. It was natural. Talk about that journey 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: right there, because we take for granted because when we 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: see OTV nowadays and we're going back to you know, 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Nanty Too and Death Jail popped off and the tours 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and everything and the CEO brand Man cross Over. It 79 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: looks so comfortable because MTV was definitely, you know, a 80 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: white music channel, you know what I'm saying. And I 81 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: was one of very few African Americans that had a 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: place in that platform, you know, and and it was 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, and they took a chance. You know. Honestly, 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Tracy Jordan, who was at that time, she was head 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: of talent relations, she thought I was really funny guy, 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and she was just like, you know, we need some hearing, 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: We need some you know, some cool to come to MTV. 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, right, I was in the right 89 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: place at the right time. And and what what what 90 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: made it, what made it work for me, was because 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: I was a part of the culture. So just imagine, right, 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Deaf Comedy Jam was the hippest, newest, coolest urban thing 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: that the hit the street, right and so so everybody 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: was tuning in every Friday night. Everybody was talking about 95 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: it because we had never seen nothing like this before 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: where you could watch TV for a half hour and 97 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna laugh every minute of that half hour. 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: You was going to be on the floor lasting right, 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: absolutely running around, run around, running around. You're trying to 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: record it on via test you know, so I was 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: a part of that explosion. And what people don't realize. 102 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: Another lucky thing that happened for me was I was 103 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the first comedian on the very first show, a deaf 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: comedy Dead, So I literally got all that exposure, like 105 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, and they re aired at night, so 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: I got buzzed in, you know, on the black hip 107 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: hop stuff, and then turn around and got the most 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: pop mainstream job knowing the man. So so my name exploded. 109 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: It was like I came out of a cannon. It 110 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is dude named Bill Bellamy. Because 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: when I did uh def comedy Jam, people didn't really 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: know my name. We knew my jokes. It was like, Yo, 113 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: you do the booty cool, you do the car. They 114 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: used to they used to call me, uh you you 115 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Ralph fella me right. So so um that MTV was 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: a blessing because I got a chance to get exposed 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: to everyone in America. And it wasn't just black folks, 118 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: it was everybody. So I ended up getting the benefit 119 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: of that exposure and I knew I had a purpose day. 120 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: I wanted to represent us in the right way. I 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to be no I didn't want to be 122 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: no cornball dude on their looking like you know, I 123 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a representative of our culture. It was very it 124 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: was very purposeful for me to go on there and 125 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: take advantage of that situation and end up being the 126 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: best choice because you know, I started getting all the 127 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: good interviews, you know, I was you know Janey Jackson, 128 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, Mariah and Snoop and Dre and Tuprock and Biggie. 129 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: I was getting all the everybody that was hot in 130 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: the culture came to me. You know, it really was 131 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: that was that was unique time for you as a 132 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: talent man, you know. But you know the thing I 133 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: love about it is that you know, that's why I 134 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: mentioned your your your college education, because you came from 135 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the corporate world. Yeah, I was. I went to Rutgers 136 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: right and and this was the thing. I didn't know 137 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I was going to get into acting and entertainment like that. 138 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, I always had a love for it. I 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: went to school UM for economics and marketing. My market 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: My minor was marketing. My major was economic, so I 141 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: was more or less thinking about financing entrepreneurship in that 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: way and get to get this. I did comedy, like 143 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: as a joke, you know, you in college is like, man, 144 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: we need a host I was like, I most that thing. 145 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: I could be funny. And then and then the dude 146 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: say yeah, we'll come on, and I was like, huh oh, 147 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: you you're serious. You want me to do it for real? 148 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: So I brought a hosting and you know, you know 149 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: how in college they got the little tip, the little 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: fun all the talent shows and stuff like that, and 151 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, we all we all been there, and uh, 152 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: I was still going to school doing my thing, getting ready, 153 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, for my what I thought would be my 154 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: corporate lifestyle. And once I started doing that comedy thing, 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's contagious. Like I was like, oh my god, 156 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: this is way more fun than anything I imagine it 157 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: just I just remember it made me happy. But always 158 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: you was doing comedy in New York and one of 159 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: the toughest comedy clubs, yes, sir, in the country now 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: people because everybody look at looking good, smooth hairstyle, articulate, 161 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: but you was doing stand up comedy and one of 162 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: the understand it right, It was so funny. You've been 163 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: knowing me alone because everybody my biggest thing was I 164 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: didn't look like a comedian. That's what everybody kept saying, 165 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, calling me a pretty boy is to any 166 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: other And I'm like, man, I'm trying to be funny 167 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: to get all the looks. I don't care, but you 168 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: can't control what you look like. I know I'm funny, 169 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: right right right. But the thing about it was the 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: best thing was it made me become a real comedian 171 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: because people underestimated me. So I had to prove something. 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I had something to prove. I had a chip on 173 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: my shoulder, and I had the best workout club in 174 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: the country, which is the couple of men. Everybody everybody 175 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: did my club from name anybody from Steve Harveater said 176 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: to Chris Rock, Dave's Pell, Tracy Morgan, everybody jab smooth. 177 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: They all had to do my club. And uh but 178 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: that But that audience though, Bill, those that audience wasn't 179 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: the regular audience. Though, oh yeah, they was damn there. 180 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: They was damn there from the from the Apollo. They 181 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: was like recruited at the Apollo. A came to my club, 182 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: the Boo people. They was ridiculous. That's why I love 183 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why I love about my show, I 184 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: get to you know, because everybody see you now. But 185 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: the journey is what I love to tell people about. 186 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, that history and and your history making talent 187 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: because that suit look that you carried, you know, brought on, 188 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: that was your brand, and that brand has has allowed 189 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: you to be a host on Access, be a host 190 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: with Rachel Ray, to be a host you you know, 191 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: you ability to look professional, look like a corporate and 192 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: then you could swing and be just a regular street guy. 193 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: That was a nice balance for your brand correct, And 194 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: that was yes, and that was actually on purpose because 195 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: that corporate world taught me that when you are successful, 196 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: you have to look like the success you're presenting and 197 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: you have to feel authentic. And most brands, this is 198 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: where my college came in to help me create my 199 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: own brand and my in my career is that most 200 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: brands that are successful are relatable. They are reliable, and 201 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: they are consistent and you have to have that. So 202 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: it was important that I look a certain way. It 203 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: was important that every time you saw me, I was 204 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: really really funny and I had to have the same 205 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: I had to show up and show out every time 206 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the same way, Like I had to always keep bringing it, 207 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: bringing it, bringing it. But what ended up happening people 208 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: started relating to it and started expecting that. So they 209 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, that's to do that way to 210 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: suit or that's to do that. You know, they had 211 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: something they thought about me, you know what I mean, Yes, yes, yes, yes, 212 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: and that and that ended up being a really great thing, 213 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, and people don't realize and we didn't talk 214 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: about it in the early names, but we were brands. 215 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: You know. Def Comedy Jam was a brand that helped 216 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: us be branded the best comedies comics in the country. 217 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Because literally def Comedy Jam stamped you as one of 218 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: the best comics in the country. You know. It was 219 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: really beautiful, man, just you know, because I was a 220 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: part of that journey and watching you just break out, 221 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, watching Ernie break out, but just watching you 222 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: because you were uniquely different from us, because you know, 223 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: you was you was a talk show guy. You was articular. 224 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, you look like you're selling up two page 225 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you know something time, you know, telling calls. You know, 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: that was your That was that was the cool thing 227 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: about because when I hear Bill Bealle was hosting the 228 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, Death Comedy JAF two, that was a natural 229 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: because your gifts allowed you to walk out there confidently. 230 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: What did that confidence come from? Was it the days 231 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: that pepper Man was the way you were brought up? 232 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: What did that confidence come from? That? Phil Well, A 233 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of it was a lot of it was the 234 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: practice and the hard work, you know, at the Pepperman 235 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and having a room too to work out and see 236 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: because most guys don't realize, you know, as comics, it's 237 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: hard to get set when you're young and you knew, 238 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, everyone won't give you a lot of time. 239 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: You get ten minutes, you get five minutes, you know, 240 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But what I got lucky was I 241 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: had a room where I could work out every week 242 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: and do jokes and improv and like you know, make 243 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: a bad joke that don't work, go back and fix it, 244 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had a chance 245 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: to get good. So when they when when the opportunity came, 246 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: I was literally ready, like I was. I was good 247 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: on my feet, so like I could host the show, 248 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: because you when you hosting the show, you gotta be 249 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: good on your feet. Anything can go wrong, you know, 250 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: you might have to add live a little bit, you know, 251 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but that all those skills came back 252 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: to be an attribute um to help me, you know, 253 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: seemed very seamless on TV. I was not prepared like 254 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I always was very prepared for my interviews. I didn't 255 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: take it for granted. I made sure I really knew 256 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: the people that I was, you know, talking to, and 257 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I could talk to them just 258 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: like you really know me. You know what I'm saying. 259 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: It's not like an interview. It's just like kicking it 260 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: with your boy, you know what. You know now I'm 261 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: talking to me my boy, Bill Bellamy, he's uh starting 262 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: new Netflix limited series. Uh self made the Madam c J. 263 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Walker story. Before we get into the actual good of 264 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: the show, let's talk about two very key executive producers 265 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: who producers who own this show, Lebron James and Maverick Carter. 266 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, these two individuals who are showing that being 267 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: an athlete or being the person who's working with the 268 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: athlete and the in the management side and the agency side, 269 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: that's Maverick Carter. How important it is. Do you feel 270 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: their roles played in this project being up? Well, I 271 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: think it was first of all, it's a lot of 272 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: reasons why this project was got made. It's one of 273 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the most madj Walker is one of the most prolific 274 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: women in American history. She also is absolutely African American. 275 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: But it's just the story that's inspiring for women. And 276 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure Octavia wanted to do this Passion project. Um 277 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: teamed up with Lebron and Maverick and those guys, and 278 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: they they wanted to do it as well. And it's 279 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: like when you use your leverage, you got the stars, 280 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: you got the passion, and we got the project and 281 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: the social media datus and the social media. But yeah, 282 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: because they already know we can promote it. They already 283 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: know it's a great story. They already know. We got 284 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: tell to actors and we got the stars and the power. 285 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: So we everyone put there, put their Superman suit on, 286 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: and we made a great limited series. Like I think 287 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: people are gonna be buzzing about it. It's coming out 288 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: March twenty. If you're gonna start, you know you're gonna 289 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: see a bunch of press. You're gonna see me our 290 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: TV Spencer, Tiffany had his Blair Underwood, Carmen and Joe Go, 291 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: We're all gonna be doing something. Casey Lemons, who is 292 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: the director. She also directed Harriet, so her movie was 293 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: just nominated for an oscar you know what I'm saying. 294 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: So it's like we got all this, all this great power. 295 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: This is what I hope we can continue to do 296 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: in the business of entertainment is tell our stories and 297 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: um team up together and make make stuff that, you know, 298 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: like the Love Jones, like Mattam C. J. Walker Classics. 299 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: You know that, you know we can look back and 300 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: be proud of. You know, I'm happy to be in 301 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: this project where people are gonna say, well, dang, how 302 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: Bellamy did that too? I love it. 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Making conversations continues online at www 347 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: dot Money Making Conversations dot com, and follow money making 348 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, in 349 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: the time, you stop thinking about your dreams and put 350 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: some plans into action. Hi, you're listening to Rashan McDonald 351 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and this is money making conversation. I'm your host self 352 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: made that Madam C. J. Walker story. Um Bill is 353 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: one of the stars of that project that comes out 354 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: to say television limited television series on Netflix March twenty Bill, 355 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: um you know, when you get engaged, you start talking 356 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: about the the power or particular project like this, you know, 357 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: hair care business. What you know is so still so 358 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: dominant today. She was the first self made I'm not 359 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: even inherited, self made female millionaire, you know, in that time, 360 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: which is crazy when you think about early nineteen hundreds. 361 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: How the hell did she do it? That's what I'm 362 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: can't believe it. I know, you know there's no Martin 363 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. No Malcolm X. We're talking early nineteen hundreds. Bro. 364 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: She was driving around and the cars had the coats 365 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: everything she was. She was looking like she was rich too. 366 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: That was the cool thing. She was the first opera Yes, yes, yes, yes, 367 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: yes and so so when you when you when you 368 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the talent involved, you know, you know, 369 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: like you mentioned like Tavis Spencer, you got your boy. 370 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: See it's an African American man who looked like they 371 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: could have lived in that era. You know what I'm saying. 372 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: And Bill bella mean black underworld. They looked like they 373 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: could have been rolling back there. I look at normal, 374 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: look at normal. Let me tell you what's so crazy 375 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: that you just said that? Right? So, so just imagine 376 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: it's the early nineteen hundred black black people dressed so fly. 377 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: We were very meticulous, very We were suited and booted. 378 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean the suits, the fabrics. I don't know what 379 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: we had the money, but we would just clean. Right 380 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: when I went to wardrobe and put on this these 381 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: amazing suits, I felt like I always said this must 382 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: be my great grandfather. I felt like I was like, 383 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: this is what my great grandfather looked like, right right, 384 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: Because when you see me when I the way I 385 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: look like, you're gonna be like, yeah, he could have 386 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: He could have been in the ninth nineteen o nineteen twelve, 387 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: just walk out the house. When when it was announced, 388 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: used part of it also say you know, great cast 389 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: and makes a great series. You know what I'm saying, 390 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: And you know, you know, look, I'm a cat. I've 391 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: cast enough talented people to go. He's perfect for that role, 392 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Blair and the Wood, He's perfect. We don't have to 393 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: mess with the hair, start to do no power to 394 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: make up nothing. They got the wall. You know what 395 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just walk out there this walk out there, 396 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: be yourself. Brother, you look like because back then, like 397 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: you said, man, you know black barbers you know, you 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: used to all have white used to walk to go 399 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: to barbers, barbershops and suits. We used to look really good, man. 400 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: And how we approach out said, We walked in public 401 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: and we were well groomed. It was it was an error. 402 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: It was a style that was really imminent at that time. 403 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, where you had top hats. We had the 404 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: ladies stressed in these beautiful flowing dresses, even the ladies 405 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: War Knights hat sometimes you know, with a little flower 406 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: on it and stuff like. So when you go back 407 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: and you look how elegant we were, you know, we 408 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: were very elegant and stylish people. So I was just like, dang, man, 409 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: it felt like we went back in time. Be honest. 410 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: I felt like I got a chance to go in 411 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: the times gen and just go back and see all 412 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: my cousins and there. Well, you know, it's beautiful because 413 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, you're naturally funny, Bill, 414 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: and this is a drum. This is a druma okay, 415 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: but you're always gonna put that bill bell and be spin. 416 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: That's what I love about you. You know you're gonna 417 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna find a way to bring some natural humor. 418 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why you were cast 419 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: because you know, you don't want something to be just 420 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: you know, like that was a bad time, a sad 421 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: time for black people. We're just telling the story about it. 422 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: A person who who had limited education skills, you know, 423 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: how to teach yourself how to read and write what 424 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and uh, was motivated through the hair care business, 425 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: which I which really is amazing that way back then, 426 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, she figured it out and today we're still, 427 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the billion dollar industry. And you look 428 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: at things like Essence and the owner of Essence, you know, 429 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: is in the billion dollar hair care business and things 430 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: like that. So so that really is a it's kind 431 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: of like a time machine. And when you look at 432 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: what's happening today and what happened back then when you 433 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: were telling that story, the black care about how they look. 434 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: There's the women absolutely, especially women into this day. It's 435 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: a part of our culture. It's a need. Madam c 436 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Ji Walker saw that there was a need and her 437 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: her her purpose or her mission statement was to make 438 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: black women feel beautiful and black women that look like her. 439 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: And everyone said, no, no, you can't do that. You 440 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: gotta do it this way, you gotta do it that way. 441 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: She had a vision in her mind that she wanted 442 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: to be this way and she kept chipping at it 443 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: because she got it the way she wanted and that 444 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: to me was like the pioneering part about it. And 445 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: my character, I play a guy named Sweetness. Sweetness is 446 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that hustler name right, name right there? Come sweet come on, now, 447 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: come on now, I know they right, they wanted they 448 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: wanted it. I had to go put it on him. 449 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: They said, uh, they needed that person that was gonna 450 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: bring that that kind of swab sort of you know, 451 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: sort of dangerous part of what the Street side St. 452 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: Louis was, you know. And uh so basically my character 453 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: was a numbers runner, you know. He did do that. 454 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Came up in the barbershop with a piece of paper 455 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: and wrote the numbers down to plate the horses and stuff. 456 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: And he was always selling something right but he But 457 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: see the thing about it, there's a lot of people 458 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: don't get get it that the hustler is a salesman. 459 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: The hustler, the hustler, it's got maybe four or five pridits. 460 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: You know, he might be you know, he might help 461 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: you get some ladies. He might help you, you know, 462 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: get you a car. He he maybe get you a 463 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: real bad loan. You know that's amazing. Now you you 464 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: executive producer a stand up comedy show called on Who 465 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: Got Jokes on TV one And a very talented lady 466 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: appeared on your show back then, tiff Any hat Ith, 467 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: who's now started. Isn't that That's why I love about life? 468 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: You know when you get to see the journeys. You know, 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: somebody you introduced on your show to the world, Tiffany Hattes, 470 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and we all know what girl's trip did for her career. 471 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: And she's exploded on the face. You know when you 472 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: when you see things like that, because she's not the 473 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: only one you've introduced on that show to have that 474 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: are turning pages and you've done you know, the shock comedy, 475 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: all spalls and all these things. Talk about just just 476 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: talk about your your your influence, Bill Bellman, because when 477 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: I do the show, money making conversation. A lot of people. 478 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: I have a key word, I say industry decision makers, 479 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: people who influenced the game. And you have been like 480 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: you said, let's go all the way back to Peppermint. 481 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: When you mentioned all those names Steve Harvey said, Chris Rock, 482 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, all those people who went through. And I 483 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: told you, I knew I stayed away from that club. 484 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: I knew about Peppermin Brother. I wasn't going up and 485 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: getting my feelings hurt. I wouldn't going up to get 486 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: my field. And I knew about you and said, and 487 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: when I only knew your name, Bill Bellaman, but when 488 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: I saw Yo in that gun, that girl was the 489 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: host of paperback this And so I was expecting because 490 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: as the club's reputation was so powerful, because because he knows, 491 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: everybody was coming to club. Thugs were coming in that auder, 492 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: drug dealers were coming in on it was it was 493 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: criminals who was sitting in that audience. So the criminals 494 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: was laughing on Thursday night. That was crazy that that 495 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: dudes that do harm every week, but on the Thursday 496 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: they put their gun down and barbaroto and be up. 497 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: They're laughing. They butt off it's a trip man comedy, 498 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: comedy and music. It's like a part of us that 499 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: we gotta have. It's really crazy. It's really crazy because 500 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: he tells us the truth. When I hosted hip hop 501 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: Comments to Stop in Houston and I'll tell you man, 502 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: I used to look at people. People were laugh at 503 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: me and shake my hands, I swear to you. On 504 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the other side of the dough, I'll be nervous. But 505 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: they were so infatuated with my talents as a stand 506 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: up and when they would look at you, Billy will 507 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: look at you like, Man, I wish I could be you. Man, 508 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: you know you're the man, but you know going because 509 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: they like that you make them last. Yes, yes, because 510 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: in the sad part about if you do stand up 511 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: long enough I host the Color though, you stop seeing 512 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: them either something happened to or they got picked up, 513 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: or something happened to. So so when you see a 514 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: talent like a Tiffany Hattis who you brought on the show, 515 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: and a number of other talents, and you look at 516 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: the state of stand up comment and you've done so 517 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: many specials as a stand up comedy introduced as one 518 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of the rising stars of stand up, You're acting and radio. 519 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: As a host, you you your host specials, be a 520 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: bellarmn you look at your resume. What do you tell 521 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: a young talent because you don't seem to say I 522 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: can't do something, I'm willing to do it. But you 523 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: said something that was really key. Rishan, I do my homeworld. 524 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: If somebody interviews me, I get to know who they are, 525 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: so as a relationship talk, I think what we what what? 526 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: People have to understand that success is not always uh 527 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: a happenstance or a coincidence. A lot of success comes 528 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: from years of preparation, years of work, after years of 529 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: concentration and focus on the thing that you want. Right. 530 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be a star before I 531 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: became a star, you know. I knew that I was 532 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna wear suits because I wanted to look different and 533 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: look polished. I wanted to look successful. That was on purpose, 534 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: right that those that was before it happened, though, So 535 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: just me, I had it in my head that I'm 536 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: looking at the landscape of comedy. I'm like, how can 537 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: I make a splash in the business that don't know me. 538 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: I want people to see me and be excited. I 539 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: want people to see me and be interested. So I 540 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: presented myself as something that was good and something that 541 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: was funny and something that is like kind of like, 542 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: what the heck is that? Right? Because you know, I 543 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: didn't look like I look like everybody said, you look 544 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: like you're about to drop R and B album, you know, 545 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: right right, right, right right right. So I was like, 546 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: I got I was like, I can't think, but I 547 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: can slang these jokes. So what ended up happening is 548 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: and what I can say to the younger or any 549 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: business person or any entrepreneur, is you gotta have the 550 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: vision for what you want to do, and you have 551 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: to supply a need. That that's how you that's how 552 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: brands become huge. You supply something that doesn't exist. You 553 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: create something and create a demand for it. Right now, 554 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: now you're looking at you. You you look at when 555 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: I came out, nobody was wearing suits. Then everybody starts 556 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: trying to dress up then, and then then then there 557 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: was no like really leading man looking comedians. It's just 558 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: not you know, except for any few of me, you 559 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when I came out, you know, 560 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, who's that guy? And then I 561 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: started doing movies. Then I did how to be a player. Uh, 562 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: now you know what I'm saying. It's real. It's like, oh, oh, 563 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't be funny and you can't be charming, and 564 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: it's still be successful and you don't have to be considered, 565 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, a straight goofball because you are funding, right. 566 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: So I found a way to make funny a business. 567 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: Well you are you are business, you are a brand. 568 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: That's the I'm talking to Bill Bellamy. You know his 569 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: work In my early interest, I said he has one 570 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: of the most diverse acting resumes. Uh. In Hollywood stand 571 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: up comedy specials, Access Hollywood, co hosting with Rachel Ray 572 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: hbo Is, in Secure, game show host way before you 573 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: know Steve Harvey was doing game show host wait before 574 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan, Anthony Anderson, you know, play the Wide Receiver 575 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: in any given Sunday with Jamie Fox and like again, Uh, 576 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: you know Love Joe what you you know? I Love 577 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: Jones is still one of my favorite movies that you 578 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: performed in. And uh, you know those are those rich movies. 579 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: And that's what you mentioned you you feel this type 580 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: of project will be similar, will impact people because I 581 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 1: saw Harry or twice, so I know the quality and 582 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: she deserves to be nominated for an Oscar in that 583 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: particular movie, in her role. And these are movies that 584 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: they're not they're not trying to uh, they're not doctormentaries. 585 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: These are this entertainment, but it's tolding the story that 586 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: in a way. And I'm glad it's not a one 587 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: off Bill Bellervy. I'm like a limited series. So you 588 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: know you can you can tell a beginning middling in right, yeah, 589 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and you get the chance to um really get engulfed 590 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: in the characters. And what I think people are gonna 591 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: love is the acting. They're gonna love the story. They're 592 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: going to love the motivation of this woman in the 593 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: at a certain time, and it's going to inspire guys 594 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: and girls to be like, yo, man, look at what 595 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: Madam C. J. Walker did in the early nineteen hundreds. 596 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: All this racism and this and that and the other, 597 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: and she made it happen. So what's your excuse? You got, 598 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: you got, you got smart phones, you got the Internet, 599 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: you got all kinds of stuff going on. You're talking 600 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: about you can't make somebody yourself and you better get 601 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: out of you right. You know you left home. You 602 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: you just left home back then you just left home? Right? Yeah? 603 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Walker out here with no no WiFi, ain't got nothing, 604 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: no backup. Oh my goodness, self made story started. My man, 605 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Bill Bellamy starts to March on Netflix is a limited series. 606 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: I got Netflix, so I definitely will be watching Bill. 607 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on my show. Man. Man. You 608 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: know you know from my heart you're special. Man. I 609 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: love you. When I needed you to fill in for 610 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Steve on certain dates, I need you for difference. You 611 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: never never said no, root to where I need to be. Brother. 612 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Whatever you need me, I got you, man, and I'm 613 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: so happy to be a part of your success. Our 614 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: stories are overlapping, obviously, but you're heart working dude, super 615 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: smart man. 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