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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty one,

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Speaker 1: episode two of Day. And he's like, guy, he's a

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Speaker 1: production to my Heart Radio. This is the podcast where

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Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into American's shared consciousness. And

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Speaker 1: it is Tuesday, August two. What does that mean? Oh

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Speaker 1: man to National Cuban Sandwich Day. Hail the Cubano, Bang

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Speaker 1: bang National Ride. I don't Ride the wind Day is

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Speaker 1: a National sponge cake Day. I like my work hand.

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Speaker 1: Mix it up. Maybe put you know, Cuban sandwich except

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Speaker 1: with sponge cake rolls, mustard sponge cake. Yeah, absolutely disrespect

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Speaker 1: both things. Yeah, yeah, ride the wind Brother? Wait? What

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Speaker 1: is right now? I'm curious? I like, is that like

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Speaker 1: saying is that like a white people saying I'm missing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably it's probably some extreme sport like

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Speaker 1: kite fishing or some ship check. You're pretty spot on.

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Speaker 1: It's about like anything that's like about gliding with the

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Speaker 1: wind man. Yeah, dude, right the wind Brother. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't feel like it always comes. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: should just be ride the wind Brother. Anyways. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien a K blipp baby blipp A. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he gotta go he pooped on his friends but whole

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Speaker 1: Blippy blip A, Oh baby, I guess he had to go.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of at t d z Burner, another

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Speaker 1: Zeitgeist listener going through the Blippy stages, the stages of

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Speaker 1: the Blippy. As a parent, my kid watches Blippy and

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Speaker 1: I shared this story with my wife and she acted

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Speaker 1: like I was the weird one. It's a weird one.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird it's a weird story. It's a hard

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Speaker 1: it's a hard story to tell to anyone that the

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Speaker 1: child performer Blippy pooped on his front butthole. Anyways, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the a K and I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host Mr Miles Gread. How

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Speaker 1: I get to Lambo? We got blimps and names. We

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Speaker 1: got everything you are, honey, We know the names, We

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Speaker 1: all the people that both post the podcast man boost

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Speaker 1: these none of my nikes, honey, half got any creases?

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Speaker 1: Get to Lambo? How I get to Lambo? Hey? Look

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Speaker 1: up fat that believe? Okay, shut up? Yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta look. Ever since Dan O'Brien came on talking

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Speaker 1: about blimps and stuff, blimps, blimps have been in the

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Speaker 1: zeitgeist with everybody. I just you know, it's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys do a video cracked about blimps or something?

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Speaker 1: Because when I told her Majesty about the blimp thing,

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Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, I know. She's like, oh, oh, so

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Speaker 1: now I know some ship you don't. I was like, damn, okay.

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Speaker 1: I think it may have been for a bit or something.

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Speaker 1: of thing we would have done, and I would have

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Speaker 1: completely forgotten about. Hey, speaking of cracked videos, Miles, we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined by one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: actors from those videos, also a brilliant and talented producer

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Speaker 1: of the must watch Some More News with Cody Johnson podcast,

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Speaker 1: host of Even More News and the dearly departed Worst

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Speaker 1: Year Ever. It is the brilliant, the talented Katie Star.

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Speaker 1: I can speak now. I'm here, Hi, guys. I love

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Speaker 1: being here. You always made me feel so good about myself.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you big fans. And you you

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Speaker 1: recently relocated up to the mountains. Did the thing you're

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Speaker 1: sing it sure is. I'm not going to share the

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Speaker 1: specifics of the mountains I mean, it's a big, big

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Speaker 1: It has been a journey. It's just like I threw

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Speaker 1: a bomb in the middle of my life and it's good.

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Speaker 1: But it's a big adventure. Are you I'm up here?

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Speaker 1: Are you nimble? Are you good with change? I am

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Speaker 1: There's so many reasons why I decided to do it,

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Speaker 1: Milana Vine true all praise. But yeah, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: But very quickly, like you learn to kind of distill

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Speaker 1: It's really about what my environment is when my day

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Speaker 1: and for teachers, that means arming yourself with assault rifles

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Speaker 1: a symptom of a completely devastatingly fucked up society. Not

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Speaker 1: till you hear all of that plenty more. But first, Katie,

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Speaker 1: your search history? All right, well, I just set myself

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Speaker 1: up for this. Now I'm researching do things generators and

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Speaker 1: was talking about, that like is my version of where

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Speaker 1: you moved, Katie. It's like there was a house that

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Speaker 1: had a yard sign that said Socialism has no home here.

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Speaker 1: And I was so tempted to just stop and ask

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00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: them like what what do you think socialism? Or just

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00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: say what socialism? Or just go what socialism? Yeah? Exactly, damn,

431
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: what's so salism? What's that? Right? Oh? Oh man, I

432
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't want to know. They'll make you

433
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: share with the needy. Well, not directly, it's just that

434
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: they would probably tax people at a higher rate, which

435
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm not really part of that scheme, so it would

436
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: probably create better outcomes for people. I don't know, I mean, yeah,

437
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: that the idea like, oh, I'm going to be paying

438
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot for nothing. You already are, buddy, And also

439
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: you are paying for your trash and your waste to

440
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: be removed from your home and for water to come

441
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: to your home and all sorts of things that are

442
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: basically on a socialist model in a lot of places. Exactly.

443
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, but but also we leave out of the

444
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: conversation the fact that billionaires and corporations get to skirt

445
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: and avoid taxes and you know, exploit people in order

446
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: to make There's so much money. There's so much wealth

447
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: that is being hoarded, and so like there's a I

448
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: understand that the logistics are great, because nobody's ever actually

449
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: done it here, right, Like there's a way to do

450
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: this where you're not feeling this difference. You're all you're

451
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: actually feeling is like, oh now I have health insurance,

452
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, and like this whole argument of well I

453
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: want to go to my doctor. Well, yeah, you you

454
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: get to go to any doctor. Yeah. Brazil is a

455
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: great illustration of this sort of duality. They have a

456
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: actual like socialist alternative that is running for president and

457
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Lula former president and has outside support after the current

458
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: authoritarian term of Bosonaro and then bolson like they they

459
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: basically have the two options fascism and socialism on the ticket,

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00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: and socialism is has the vast majority of the support

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00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: according to opinion polls, which we've learned not to trust

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00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: in this country. But at least it seems like Bolsonaro

463
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: and the people who have access to the levels of

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00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: power are concerned about about the results of the opinion

465
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: polls because he has been basically claiming that the the

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00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: upcoming election on October two is going to be fraudulent.

467
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: It's like, even though there's never been a problem with

468
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: fraud in the history of Brazilian elections, and in fact,

469
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: Brazil is one of the only like massive countries that

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00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: reports the results of their voting the same day, like

471
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: they have it like that locked down. He's like, nah,

472
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: it's it's too susceptible. It's too susceptible to being rigged.

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00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: And he's like picked out this very you know, a

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Speaker 1: hypothetical tech scenario that people are like, well, I mean

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00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: that could happen, but like it's you know, there's like

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00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: a point zero, there's there one percent chance, and like now,

477
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: like we we can guard against that and we would

478
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: know if it happened. He's like, nah, that's we can't

479
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: hold this election because because the voting machines. It's really

480
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: like he's just reading from the Trump playbook in a

481
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: way that's I got an office, very very straightforward. I

482
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: mean not that that's why, but that that gave people

483
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, that kind of works. Okay, this is

484
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a this is a wife. But it's kind of one

485
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: of those things too, because like you know, they've they've

486
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: before the like Workers Party was in power in Brazil

487
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: and for a while, like talk saying ship that was

488
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: even like remotely close to like privatizing a public service,

489
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: people would have lost their fucking ship over the idea.

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00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: And it's just funny how like an economic crisis and

491
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: a few other things compound and like immediately kind of

492
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: people are like, oh wait, actually no, let's try this

493
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: other thing now. And it's always interesting how these sort

494
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: of like a crisis, it's a corruption scandal, can all

495
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of come together and people suddenly associate one with

496
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: the other and boom, now you have like the table

497
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: set for some other coon to come in and offer

498
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: something quote unquote different. Well, the past few years I

499
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: have been seismic in showing people all the cracks and

500
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: how desperately important all of these everything that comes along

501
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: with the socialist candidate is too their present into their future,

502
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: and it does I know you can't really pay too

503
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: much attention to opinion polls, but it does feel good

504
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: to see that when there is a socialist candidate on

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00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: the fucking ticket, that the support is there. And I

506
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: think that's really encouraging in general. But it's as encouraging

507
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: as it is scary to see the two sizes coming

508
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: up against each other like this, because I mean, we

509
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: absolutely have offered a playbook, and the fact that it

510
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: got as far as it did here in America when

511
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have all these checks and balance is

512
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: protecting against It makes me terrified for other places that don't,

513
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, that are much more easily manipulated and easily

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: to need. That was our first coup, you know, and

515
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: like other places, I've have more history with it, so

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely scary, not just in Brazil but everywhere. Yeah.

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00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like just the idea, like as as

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: we've laid it out, like they have a right wing

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00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of militaristic dictatorial person in power, then there is

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: a socialist alternative that is like charging towards power that

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00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, having paid attention to history

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: for the past like fifty years, that reads to me

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: as like, oh, this is gonna is going to go bad.

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: But the way the New York Times is writing about it,

525
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: they're like, Brazil's last coup in four led to a

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: brutal twenty one year military dictatorship. The middle class supported it,

527
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: business people supported it, the press supported it, and the

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00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: US supported it. And but we get rid of every

529
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: other group they mentioned before. Well, none of these players

530
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: support a coup now. And I'm like, is that true,

531
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: because like it has the CIA and the US and

532
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: like all the you know, international multinational corporations, Like have

533
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: they so thrown out that like sort of Domino's ideal

534
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: of like, well, if if Brazil falls, then were we

535
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: are next, and we need to like make sure that

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00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I don't know, there's just like something about

537
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: this the like doesn't feel like we're taking the possibility

538
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: of a coup of an assassination of the socialists leadership

539
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: seriously enough. Well, I mean there's definitely there's been right

540
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: wing violence against a lot of the leftist there. That's

541
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's happening now right there. Definitely

542
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: in that phase, or there's there is already terrible like

543
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: partisan violence. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't seem like a very

544
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: accurate I'm agreeing with what you're saying, especially if you

545
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: look around the world, I mean Russia, Okay, there's just

546
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: people are doing it, are doing the thing. These leaders

547
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: are doing the things that you think, yeah, but it

548
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: would be bad if they actually did it, But they're

549
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: doing it. They don't care. They're going to push it

550
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: and get away with it, you know. Or what's going

551
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: to happen in China with Taiwan. You know, it's I

552
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: mean yeah, like you're just like with Trump, right, there's

553
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: there's definitely a type of politician now that's like just

554
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: like a raptor in Jurassic Park just testing the fences,

555
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: like and they're just waiting for the fence to be

556
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: off and they're gonna just walk right through. Like that's

557
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: there's that's you can tell for. I mean, just like

558
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: it right now, Like even in the US with all

559
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: the these secretaries of state are the people who are

560
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: going to oversee like elections and things like that. There

561
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: already were already seeing people who come in who are

562
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: embracing like this like dumb election fraud bullshit, And so

563
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: they're starting like from that one touch of the fence,

564
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, so the next one, we've got to

565
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: make sure there's stooges in these positions. So the next

566
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: time we touch the fence, it is not on. And yeah,

567
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: it's a bit by bit there it is eroding. And

568
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: like some people, I mean, many people are are sort

569
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: of sounding the alarm, but I think most people are

570
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: kind of unaware of like how cynical their moves are,

571
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: especially for something like you know, when when it comes

572
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: to maintaining power, in this sense, we're just like, yeah,

573
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: fuck it, we can. There's a way to do it

574
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: if you just get these people to agree, and then

575
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: the fucking rules don't matter. Well, also, you can just

576
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: say whatever the funk you want and make it true.

577
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, Donald Trump has moral his beautiful home rated,

578
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: his beautiful, beautiful home is rated, and he says, you know,

579
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. But also Obama still documents

580
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: and I declassified my documents. Which one is it, buddy,

581
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He just threw verbal vomit out there. And

582
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: now pick your pick your poison of an excuse that

583
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: you can have if you're talking about this, you know,

584
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter whether or not that's true. And

585
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: there are so much going on all at once that

586
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: it's all people can do to pay their bills to

587
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that their kids get to school

588
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: and they're not shocked. Like it's chaos, and so you

589
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: don't have room for most people's daily lives. They don't

590
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: have room to to separate the truth from the fiction. Yeah,

591
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: to that point of like you can say whatever you want.

592
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: A fifth of the country has now lost faith in

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: the election systems, even though there there is no problem

594
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: with the elections. The fifth of Brazilian voters like just

595
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: based on the what would seem to be a very

596
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: straightforward he starts hearing that he's going to lose the

597
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: next election and suddenly is worried about fraud. Like that

598
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: seems like a very fairly straightforward thing. But suddenly a

599
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: fifth of the country has lost face and faith in

600
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: the election system. Another thing that they brought up fifth

601
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: could just be as hardcore supporters. Yeah, it could be sure,

602
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: because they're they're like, yeah, that's right, that's bullshit. So

603
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: then when you're full of people I'm in the column

604
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: of agreeing with Bolsonaro. The other thing that they point

605
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: to in that realm is that they're like, and there's

606
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: he he really loosened like gun restrictions. So now like

607
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: there are so many Brazilians who are armed, six hundred thousand,

608
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: over six hundred thousands. Could you imagine that many people

609
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: with guns in the US it is seventy two millions.

610
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: Not say it's not a danger in Brazil. I'm just saying,

611
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: like it. I feel like sometimes we don't realize how dangerous, Yeah,

612
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: so wild, how many guns, Like even if you were

613
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: to ban them tomorrow. There are so many guns people.

614
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: If someone like texted me with their dad found a

615
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: gun they forgot about, like in the garage, they're like,

616
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: look what I found. Forgot about this when you're like,

617
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: we live in a fucking place where people are like, whoop,

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00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: see I have this old you know gun here and

619
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: then garage I forgot about the Yeah, when one of

620
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: my relatives passed, they found a handgun and like the

621
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: process of like figuring out what to do with it

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: and like how to get rid of it, and like

623
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's like such a a deadly weapon

624
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: that is horrifying and like shouldn't exist, and like you

625
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: have to, you know, reach out to the police and uh,

626
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, do all these things. But they are sold,

627
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: like you know, like their square guns in the United States.

628
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: There just so so easy to get. Which is what

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Speaker 1: our next story is going to be about after we

630
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we're back and mass shootings

631
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Speaker 1: are I think on a lot of people's minds right now.

632
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: The New York Times yesterday had a front page story

633
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: about how mental illness is not a useful indicator that

634
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: someone is going to carry out a mass shooting like

635
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: after a bunch of research into it, they've like consulted

636
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: the experts and they're like, no, that's not Like the

637
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: stock explanation from the right is not is not a

638
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: good thing to look out for or to criminalize or

639
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: to you know, stigmatize. Unfortunately, the other symptoms they provide for,

640
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: like what you should be looking out for, are like

641
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: equally impossible to look out for. Their like, Instead, it's

642
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: a personal crisis. Change in behavior or appearance, like get

643
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: a bad haircut or something like is one of the things.

644
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, Fred got divorced and got a mohawk, right,

645
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, what right, Just a regular

646
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: midlife crisis. Yeah. It talks about like various cases to

647
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: illustrate this, and like I talked about like one kid

648
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: who wrote a essay about like a school shooting before

649
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: he did a school shooting. Like I wrote a short

650
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: story about a school shooting in seventh grade, but like

651
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, yeah, my teacher probably could have

652
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: taken that and been like turned it over to the police. Instead,

653
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: she was like, you're a good writer. You should like

654
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: keep writing. That was that was cool, but like it's

655
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: just I'm sorry what what was this short story? Yeah,

656
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: you're very ahead of your time here? Is that a

657
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: bit or no? No, I like wrote we just had

658
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: an open like fiction writing like story writing assignment and

659
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, who was big Doobie Brothers fan. That was

660
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: the main thing that she was she liked to talk

661
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: about from her personal life, but she was like she

662
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: really liked my writing. And one of the stories I

663
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: wrote was just about like a kid who brought a

664
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: gun to school and like accidentally shot someone who was

665
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: like picking on him, but it wasn't clear if it

666
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: was an accident. And she and and this is pret

667
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: as you're Jack, I think that we're similar ages. I

668
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: don't know how old you are, and I'm not gonna

669
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: ask right now, but I definitely grew up with that

670
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: campaign of guns safety in the house, messing like there's

671
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: a lot of like it wasn't or like there was

672
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: that big an influenced by but it was that's a

673
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: different lens than a school shooting, like a kid brought

674
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: a gun, okay, right, Yeah, I was going to ask

675
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: if you're My next question is gonna be like and

676
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: are you okay? Right? But the I think after I'm

677
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: moved away. She like assigned, like, write a different ending

678
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: to this story to the class next year. My friend

679
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: told me, which is your of my work? So I

680
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: sued her, it's no longer a teacher. But it I

681
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's so wild too like and they

682
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: don't they don't mention gun laws. I mean, I think

683
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: they're like, well, it's health in the room, but like

684
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do about it. But it's so

685
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: many words the front page of the New York Times,

686
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: and they don't mention gun control at all, doesn't frame

687
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: it as like an aberition, like you know, a problem

688
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: that only affects America because of the gun lobbies and

689
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: how many guns we have. And instead, as we love

690
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: to do in the United States, they put it at

691
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: the level of individual action, like you know, in the

692
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: same way as like inequality or like we don't have

693
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: a class system because they tell us that, like it's

694
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: down to us to be like successful upwardly mobile people,

695
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: even though America has less upward mobility than most of them.

696
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: We don't have a mobile upward mobility problem. We have

697
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: a laziness problem. No one wants to work. It's just

698
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: always distillity. No we don't have that. It's because of

699
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: you freaking losers. And it truly ends with like people

700
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: being like and all you have to do is be nicer,

701
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: Like if one person had been nicer to them than like,

702
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: this could have all been averted. And it's just it's

703
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: fucking sick it it scares me, Like, yes, it is

704
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: true that we do not have good mental health resources

705
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: for people, and uh, full stop, like and also that

706
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: doesn't solve this crisis. And also also trying to categorize

707
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: behaviors or people and and treating them differently or flagging

708
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: them scares me a lot. Just the idea that you know,

709
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: someone might be going through something or you know, maybe

710
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: their parents are getting divorced and they're depressed, and all

711
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they're being also treated like a threat,

712
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: and what that stigmatization could do. It's really hard to

713
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: be a child under the best of circumstances in a

714
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: school environment, and add that to the mix makes me uncomfortable.

715
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: And it's depressing because with these people with this article

716
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: is basically saying, since we can't control this through legislation,

717
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: let's add something else to the teachers responsible. Let's add

718
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: something else to that, and it's just getting it all wrong.

719
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Everyone should have to watch the movie Pay It Forward.

720
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: That's the that's they are proposing essentially, like and I

721
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: hate like when things are written like this because all

722
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: this happens the same thing, like policing any major issue

723
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: we have, Like when they just avoid the root cause

724
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: and it's like this fucking does nothing. We're like, how

725
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: do we figure out who's going to be a potential threat?

726
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: You know? And and rather than saying, oh, at a

727
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: at a minimum, maybe if we just had a more

728
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: humane society where like people like you, you're going to

729
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: take away a lot of other factors that create chaos

730
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: and people's lives by supporting them for like first and foremost.

731
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: And then if guns are the problem, then yeah, make

732
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: it fucking harder to get them, rather than like scratching

733
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: your head all the time being like, okay, but what

734
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of video game do they play? For how long

735
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: with a certain haircut? Because we've used a machine learning

736
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: tool to algorithmically identify people, it's like, what the fuck?

737
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile nothing works and so people will just say, see,

738
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: like it doesn't change, it would just have to live

739
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: with it. And I think that the truth is that

740
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: people from all sides. I mean, sure, there's people that

741
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: are gonna hate any conversation about gun legislations, but I

742
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: don't think that that's are off from being widely accepted

743
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: from people from both sides, like, yeah, we don't want

744
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: our children murdered, right, Like I I really don't think

745
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: that this is that hard to get a consensus on.

746
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: There's a difference between saying that you can't have guns,

747
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: which may or may not be like some of our positions.

748
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: We I understand that this is the United States of America,

749
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: and that I don't understand. I don't know how I

750
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: could get to a point where people would agree to

751
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: not have guns at all. But I think that there's

752
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: a middle there's a lot of middle ground in between

753
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: those two points, but no one wants but no politician

754
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: wants to touch it either side. Really, I mean, there's

755
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: some pretty good ideas, though you know, it's not. Let's

756
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: not get all full doom and gloom about it, all, right,

757
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: because there's some some good proposals out there from really

758
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: forward thinking people about to keep our school is safe. Right. Yeah, Yeah,

759
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Mind, So, yeah, I

760
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: I thought you were referring to, like, you know, all

761
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: the sense solutions where that after You've all Day, there

762
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: was majority support for in the United States and they

763
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: didn't even like sniff a vote in Congress. No, But

764
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I think what you're referring to is actually the the

765
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: solutions we're seeing rolled out in the wake of Validay

766
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Ohio and Louisiana, or sorry, in the wake of you

767
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: all Day, where Ohio and Louisiana proposed laws to make

768
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: it easier for teachers and school staff to carry firearms.

769
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: The bill failed in Louisiana Louisiana, but calling it Louisiana Louisiani,

770
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: I kind of like that too, but a similar bill

771
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: passing Ohio and you know the so to put this

772
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: in perspective, because it might seem like, well, if I

773
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: really like skilled marksman wants to like keep a gun

774
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: in a safe for something. Previously, Previously, in Ohio, officials

775
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: who wanted to carry weapons at school had to complete

776
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: seven hundred hours of training, which came from a Supreme

777
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Court decision following parents challenging a loosening of the existing

778
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: worlds seven hours training for teachers wanting to bring guns

779
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: to class now that this decision has been made, is

780
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: just twenty four hours. To put that in perspective, Ohio

781
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: cops have to train for over seven hundred hours. Uh.

782
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: And to put that in perspective, Ohio barbers have to

783
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: train for one thousand, eight hundred hours. God yeah, holy

784
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: sh it. I mean I I can think. I I'm

785
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: sure everyone has thought of a teacher they had who

786
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: had anger problems. Oh my god, Like I have one

787
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: teacher remember, like it was fucking scary, like because you

788
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't know where the what what what side of the

789
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: fucking bed they woke up on with throw across the

790
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: classroom at walls And I'm like, you're how what do

791
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: we even do? What have you been thinking? Like that

792
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: this is even a potential solution, Not to say like

793
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: all teachers are potentially dangerous, but like again that there's

794
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: so many varying personalities in a classroom and on the campus.

795
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Like but also like, imagine being a teacher, not even

796
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: just a normal normal teacher. I my dream is to

797
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: educate kindergarten and I've been I have had twenty four

798
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: hours of training, and now I'm in a situation where

799
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: I am in my own nerves are are wild and erratic,

800
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: and I have to make a life or decision. You know,

801
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe somebody hasn't started shooting, but you're scared. Maybe the

802
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: teacher makes an accident, Maybe the teacher shoots the wrong child.

803
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: Can you even imagine putting a teacher who's who a

804
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: person who has decided that they want to educate for

805
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: their their their calling is to educate young minds and

806
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: put them in a position where they have to decide

807
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: if one is you're going to kill one. I think

808
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: this is absurd, absolutely absurd. Maybe maybe every so often

809
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: there's a teacher that's a ex military or whatever and

810
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: happens to be really good good for them, that not

811
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: good for them. I'm not actually honoring this condition, but

812
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: like that is this suggestion. But like you cannot expect

813
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: teachers too. We can't even apparently expect cops to keep

814
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: their cool in a high pressure situation. They'll just run

815
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: out the other way, apparently and avoid coming in for

816
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: the active shooter. If we're looking at you all day,

817
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: So what what what is this conversation? It's just nonsense. Yeah,

818
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: it's it would be the only thing. Like I when

819
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was obsessed with guns, like

820
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: as I think a lot of little boys just little

821
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: kids are, you know, and you know, to this day,

822
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: when I'm standing near a cop, like if I'm in

823
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: a fucking elevator with a cop or just like walking

824
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: by one on the streets, like all I can think

825
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: of I was like gun, gun, gun, gun, because like

826
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: a gun is a physical point in the time space

827
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: continue them that is within your reach that could end,

828
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: like they could just end any life. Like it's it's

829
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: fucking crazy that they exist. It's crazy, like the idea

830
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: of that being in the classroom with kids, like you know,

831
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: like my kids are already obsessed with guns the way

832
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: I was, and we don't like let them watch anything

833
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: with guns, and like I've been like way more care.

834
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: But it's just I think, like we're right to be

835
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: obsessed with them at that point as your imagination is evolving,

836
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: because it's like wild that they exist and they are

837
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: a huge fucking deal. Like it's they just like zone

838
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: in on like the thing that's like wait, holy shit,

839
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: do those exist? And people just like carry them around

840
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: and I can fucking kill and destroy like it's like bulldozers.

841
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: So why like trains, So why like planes, like a

842
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: gun is on that level to or like this thing

843
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: has the potential to do untold ship yeah, like truly

844
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and like most oh high school districts say

845
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: they still want to allow it, you know again, like

846
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: when you ask people what they think, like outside of

847
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: the systemic and all this ship, Like nearly three quarters

848
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: of US teachers don't want to carry guns in school,

849
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: which is a lot one of many examples of how

850
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Speaker 1: the country will turn to any solution other than gun

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Speaker 1: control when it comes to school safety. This one scares

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Speaker 1: me because of how much I was like do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring this up to like my

854
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Speaker 1: kids school. Uh it is. So these are safety pods,

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Speaker 1: essentially metal panic rooms for between fifteen thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars, and kids basically like lock themselves in

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Speaker 1: them during a school shooting. They've been around for a

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Speaker 1: few years. Were originally designed for tornadoes, but companies pivoted

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Speaker 1: to marketing them as school shooting protection because those happen

860
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Speaker 1: just as often, if not more often. And I was

861
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Speaker 1: like that literally like hit my mind, like okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we're not going to get the gun stuff so

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Speaker 1: likely get those yeah, given given panic rooms so that

864
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Speaker 1: they're safe. Like if one of these things happen, which

865
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Speaker 1: is like fucking crazy, it's it. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not a healthy it's not a sign

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Speaker 1: of a healthy civilization. I feel when when it's like

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Speaker 1: this thing is killing us, what's the solution, Well, more

869
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Speaker 1: of those things, but also some other things. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: more of more of the thing that's causing the problem. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: socialism is just to be feared in evil anyway, Just

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Speaker 1: bring it correct and I'll tell you what doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a home here in this gun in this home where

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Speaker 1: we keep gun. I want to not be able to

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Speaker 1: afford my health insurance so that when I get shot,

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Speaker 1: I die. Right. But like my children, you know, go

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Speaker 1: to a school every day, drop them off, and worry

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Speaker 1: about a school shooting, like in the back of my

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Speaker 1: mind or the front of my mind, like depending on

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Speaker 1: how recently one of those happened, and anything that would

881
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Speaker 1: make them safer, I want to do. And like I

882
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: my issue with the gun thing is like I don't

883
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Speaker 1: think it makes them safer like that. That is my

884
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: issue with like the gun thing. On a very micro level,

885
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Speaker 1: because like, I just want my kids to be safe,

886
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Speaker 1: and I think that's the way a lot of parents are.

887
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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that that will cause some people to

888
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Speaker 1: you know, get come around on on all this gun

889
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Speaker 1: control ship. It's another example that I don't think would work,

890
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Speaker 1: and therefore him against Taser company acts on last month

891
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Speaker 1: announced plans to develop drones armed with tasers that could

892
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Speaker 1: fly around schools and help prevent the next you of

893
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Speaker 1: all Day Sandy Hook or Columbine. Yeah, like drones, Yeah,

894
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Speaker 1: drones with tasers. So yeah, he's gonna fly that droning

895
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Speaker 1: around in the school. Is it's the teacher that the

896
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Speaker 1: automated based on this algorithmic programming that's so racist you

897
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Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it. Exactly. They are constantly be the solution

898
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Speaker 1: is not just man, maybe when you do some about

899
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Speaker 1: the guns, it's like what what fucking farmer looks at

900
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Speaker 1: their field. It's like, man, we got you know, there's

901
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Speaker 1: these pests in my in my crops I gotta get

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Speaker 1: rid of. And they're like, what if you just what

903
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Speaker 1: if you just fucking got some other pests that could

904
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Speaker 1: fight them and then they will go away? And they

905
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Speaker 1: would they would they would leave your crops alone, rather

906
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: than like what about pest control? What about just saying

907
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Speaker 1: this is the problem, I'm addressing that, rather than going

908
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Speaker 1: like nine steps into my imagination with the dumbest ideas,

909
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, I'm I'm actually developing a

910
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: breed of rabbit that will eat all of these things,

911
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: and that's how we will we will solve the problem,

912
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: rather than this other solution that's right are in front

913
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Speaker 1: of you that other people have used many times. We

914
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Speaker 1: could put put all kids in shock callers upon entering

915
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Speaker 1: and if as soon as as soon as they started

916
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Speaker 1: acting bad, just give him a little zap exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think hyper intelligent cybernetically designed cyborgs that are armed

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Speaker 1: and patrolling the hall and connected to some sort of

919
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Speaker 1: you know, racist algorithm, racist algorithm that could become self aware.

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Speaker 1: I think that is but like the in our reality,

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Speaker 1: the terminators are invented in order to patrol school hall

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Speaker 1: because we didn't anything that gun control and can make

923
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Speaker 1: him look cute, like what was that guy boopy? I

924
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Speaker 1: don't know who you were talking about who pooped on

925
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Speaker 1: his friends? But yeah, yeah, well, I mean look how

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Speaker 1: well the terminator got along with Eddie forlong and yeah, yeah,

927
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Speaker 1: terminator too and he went on to be governor too,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, So you know what, maybe gun control

929
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Speaker 1: is a bad idea. I don't want to get in

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Speaker 1: the way of an cyborg streams, right, I don't want

931
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Speaker 1: to like ruined the future. No, I don't know. How's

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Speaker 1: he going to know? Right? You know, Katie, truly a

933
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Speaker 1: pleasure having you as always? Where can people find you?

934
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Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff? So fun? You can

935
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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter just my name Katie Stole, and

936
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Speaker 1: you can check out our work, the stuff that I

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Speaker 1: do with Cody Johnston, our YouTube channel with some more news.

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Speaker 1: Our podcast is even more news. We have episodes just

939
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Speaker 1: about every week and getting ahead of myself a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but fuck it. We are working on a new show

941
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Speaker 1: for the YouTube channel that will be hosted by me,

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Speaker 1: and that will be coming up in the fall, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: providing everything goes as planned, which frequently does not happen,

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Speaker 1: but in the near future that will be happening. Amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of

946
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Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? Yes, right before we started recording,

947
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Speaker 1: I saw a masterpiece. Well, Robert shared a masterpiece. Robert

948
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: Evans laughing so hard I might die. This is a

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Speaker 1: glorious attempt to make a country music ballad about the

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Speaker 1: Trump FBI rate. It's done sort of in the style

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Speaker 1: of Poncho and Lefty and just incredible. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: you guys it is. You should go, I guess to

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Speaker 1: Robert's feed and find this. We'll link off to it.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's ridiculous and it made me giggle, made

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Speaker 1: me get go with me My Monday. Is the person

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Speaker 1: making it like a true Trump supporter? Or is it?

957
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Speaker 1: But although there is an anime picture on it, so

958
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Speaker 1: maybe they're satire, but I really think it's it's sincere. Yeah,

959
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Speaker 1: the satire is they're saying, let's go Brandon, but that's

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Speaker 1: not what they mean. Miles, where can people find you?

961
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on

962
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also check us out.

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got a boost. These also checked me

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Speaker 1: out on four twenty day Fiance. Shout out to the

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Speaker 1: zeit gang that pulled up to the eight one eights

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Speaker 1: and Heartbreak show on Saturday. That was really fantastic to

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Speaker 1: have a few of your listeners come up and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up. I'm zeit gang, and I was like, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: I forget that. You know, we're all out here in

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Speaker 1: physical space sometimes. So it's very pleasant to meet y'all,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for listening to the show.

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Speaker 1: If you ever seen me, holler at me if you

973
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Speaker 1: come in peace. Uh. Some tweets that are like this

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Speaker 1: first one is from at Johnny heat Wave Treated. I

975
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Speaker 1: noticed the similarities about a year ago but remained silent.

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Speaker 1: Today the damn finally burst and this guy basically did

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Speaker 1: a side by side of Jiminy Glick and Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: Jimminy Glick, the Martin short character. It's like the the

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Speaker 1: like sort of film critic guy. But I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: play you a quick snippet just so you can kind

981
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Speaker 1: of see where they're at. Yeah, like Tucker Carlson's new

982
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: high pitched, unhinged thing does have a lot in common

983
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Speaker 1: is very Glick esque. Well, I'm talking we could join.

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Speaker 1: It's bad. We can't do anything when you do something

985
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Speaker 1: like that, but it's not entirely it's stupid ass. Wait

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Speaker 1: stop from one second here, what's sat about about it's

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Speaker 1: really good. It's really really good for all you Jimminy

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Speaker 1: Glick fans, and another one at Catholic Convert tweeted radio

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Speaker 1: Head Voice because I'm a Greek, I love you. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if anybody saw the Speaking of Greek film and

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Speaker 1: saw the reconstruction of what Greek philosopher Aristotle looked on

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Speaker 1: based on it looked like based on his bust, I

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Speaker 1: really like to tweet from Emma BACHELIERI tweeted Aristotle offensive

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Speaker 1: line University of Iowa, because that's what he looks, straight

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Speaker 1: coffee tweeted. We were branding quiet quitting to acting your wage,

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Speaker 1: which I think that's a better use that term, or

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Speaker 1: a better term for that. Cam tweeted, I don't have

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Speaker 1: time to read a baby on board bumper sticker. I

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Speaker 1: am on my phone. I enjoyed that. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily

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Speaker 1: Zygeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and

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Speaker 1: a website, daily zeit geys dot com, where we post

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Speaker 1: our episodes and our foot notes. We link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: you have a song that you think people might enjoy

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Speaker 1: on this Yeah, yeah, yeah, just uh just more of

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Speaker 1: that group Malfino m A L P h I n O. Again.

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Speaker 1: They're like this sort of made up band where it's

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Speaker 1: members from all over the world, but they play like

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Speaker 1: Latin music but from a from a made up island

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Speaker 1: called MALFI know, because they're not going to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're doing this authentic ship. It's kind of like a

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Speaker 1: very creative idea, which I really enjoy. So they always

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Speaker 1: say like their songs are like representative of this place

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Speaker 1: that never existed. So this is another track called l

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Speaker 1: Longo l A l A n g. Oh. Check out

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Speaker 1: the work. It's really great, like background music just to

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Speaker 1: work to, or just to kind of give your you know,

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Speaker 1: your your home and nice feel like you're in an

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Speaker 1: old kind of I don't know, like a sixties bar,

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Speaker 1: like a tropical bar or some ship. I'm definitely going

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Speaker 1: to do that today. Check it out. Yeah, down your

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Speaker 1: kayak wherever you got to. It's it'll it will lighten

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Speaker 1: up them. I like to listen to it and imagine

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Speaker 1: I'm in a nineties bar selling dinosaur embryos in a

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Speaker 1: barber sall can yeah, and a barber salt yeah. But

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Speaker 1: that is the oldest tropical bar I can picture. I

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Speaker 1: guess cocktail was before that. Anyways, The Daily Zey guys

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Speaker 1: the production of My Heart Radio for more podcast. For

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us. This more learning. But

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Speaker 1: we're back this afternoon to tell you what it is

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