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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a founding member of the A t L Debate Club.

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Speaker 1: That's what you just heard our original intro music, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys, gotta tell you? I mean that was

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Speaker 1: what about two thousand twelve. Yeah, we were trying to

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Speaker 1: figure this out before the show. Um, if anyone is

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Speaker 1: now back in the blood stream of listeners. That's terrible. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was a bit of a reach there by Damnischek,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast sponsored by No

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Speaker 1: One Beholden to No One Uh. Played by our own rules,

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Speaker 1: Mark Uh. The group gets back together on Monday. In fact,

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Speaker 1: on Saturday is the annual Westlemania offseason Spectacular um at

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling's seaside abode that you and I will will

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Speaker 1: both be at and Greg as well hopefully West will

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Speaker 1: then come Monday the show returns, and that's when we

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Speaker 1: a great It's one of the best beginnings to any

426
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Speaker 1: song in the nineties. All right, now, let's see does

427
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Brandon McGinnis know this song yesterday? I think he does?

428
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: All right, Irish? Have you ever heard this song before

429
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: you uploaded in to our system today? No? Okay, alright,

430
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: little so it's still the test of time for exactly.

431
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to the next one. It's a

432
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: tougher one this way for the chorus, A picture in market,

433
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: some youth hostel this whole light ahead of him, great

434
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: vocal melody coming up running let me now never been

435
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: I think it's before her time, but I want to

436
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: go Avril Levine, well before her time. Al did not

437
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: show up for another decade at least. Ever heard of

438
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: that one? Irish actually had before? Really? Yes, I actually

439
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: had that is letters to Cleo here and now totally

440
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of music from that time period,

441
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: totally escape my radar. All right, and one more, let's listen.

442
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: I love women, m h, I love the nipes, their cups.

443
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Try when that chorus said, I just want the listeners

444
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: to know that something washed over Mark, Well, I totally

445
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: know the chorus I the first part sounded. I thought

446
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: it was like Jewel and are heroin phase, but it's

447
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't what who is that? That is? Veruca salt

448
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: see there? Do you think Irish knows it? Uh? No?

449
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: Do you have any older siblings? You could just lie

450
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: to us too, But I'm saying, no, you know this one.

451
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I did not know this one, but I have an

452
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: older brother and sister. That's what I mean. Yes, well,

453
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: I mean he got me into sugar aye. So we

454
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: got to talk to that brother leading his his young

455
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: brother up down a strange road. Anyway, the Deep nineties

456
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: alternative mix, Um, I'll send out a link. I gotta

457
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: get more women involved. That got the ladies involved. It's

458
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: a really balanced look at not the not the biggest

459
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: hits of the nineties, but things that were just below

460
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: the radar stuff from alternative nation. Kennedy would know all

461
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: these songs. I know that you used to. There was

462
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: a period where you would tweet out, you know, your

463
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: top five and it was always nineties bands typically, And

464
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: you took a little heat from people here in the

465
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: office if I found not mistaken, all right, should we

466
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: get Connor on the phone. I think it's that time

467
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a while. Um, I think it's

468
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: been a well over a month. Well, and I wasn't

469
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: even here when he was here last time, so I

470
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: had spoken to him in ages. He sat in your chair. Actually,

471
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't intimidate me. I mean we're complimentary. Um. What

472
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: do you think about Tim Tebow speaking at the Republican

473
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: National Convention. Well, it's not an event that I'm going

474
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time watching one way or well,

475
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: it's well, I think anywhere it is, it's probably right

476
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: for riots and things being set on fire. So not

477
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: what Cleveland needs right now? What about this new idea

478
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: that the Calves won? Uh the NBA Finals and stunning

479
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: fashion and now everything Cleveland touches turns to gold. I

480
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: I do think that sports works that way, and and

481
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: and usually when you see one team turn around, it's

482
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: not it happens to other teams in the city. It

483
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: happens in waves and grouping. So I am going to

484
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: try to be optimistic. Do you think Tebow will be

485
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: our president one day? No? Okay, uh do you? Yes?

486
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I do. I believe it will be the president in

487
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: approximately twenty years. We need to do a on NFL

488
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: dot Com. A one of those old he said. He

489
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: said articles we used to do where we could take

490
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: counterpoints on this, we we might as well go all

491
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: the way down. I mean, let's just regress completely backwards,

492
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: exactly all right now on the line. Yes, he is

493
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: our new Jersey correspondent based in aunted mansion, um, a

494
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: mansion that I was inhabited by, not his living girlfriend

495
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: no longer living in sin his wife, my wife, as

496
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: he might say, he is Connor Or. What's up, buddy?

497
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: How's it going? Man? Um? Mark Seessler with me? This

498
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: is your first time on the show since you're um.

499
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I thought, wildly charismatic but yes, controversial week sitting in

500
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: here in California. Yeah, I had a lot of time

501
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to reflect on it. Uh. I never thought i'd go on,

502
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: be able to come on again. So this is uh,

503
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: this is good, this feels right. Uh. So I was saying,

504
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: and when I was talking about your upcoming appearance earlier

505
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: on the show, that one of the great things about

506
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: connor Or is that he's just a master of coming

507
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: up with new segments. Uh. And I don't know if

508
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: that's more about the segments that created don't have the

509
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: legs to last, and it's more a scramble job to

510
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: find a way to be on our show, or if

511
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: it's just the guy is just I mean he's hit

512
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: this like vein, like the Beatles in nineteen sixty six,

513
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: where there's just so much creative juice coming out of

514
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: him he can't even contain it. Um. But our new segment,

515
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: get ready, ladies and gentlemen, for con spiracy theories. And

516
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: this is my Sergeant Pepper period. Man. This is this

517
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: is epic, right, this is this is this is worth it.

518
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: This is good. Well I like the sound of that.

519
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: And you know, uh, do we have any music for this? Irish?

520
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean, let's get into the spirit. So the reason

521
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about, uh, conspiracy theories is because dB Cooper, Um,

522
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: who I don't know. Mark. I'm sure you know about D. B.

523
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Cooper as a story and a conspiracy theorist yourself. I

524
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: should know more. Yeah, well, I'll tell you a little

525
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: bit about him. He is a stranger, a man who

526
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: hijacked a flight in UH nineteen and jumped out of

527
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the building with two hundred thousand and ransom money strapped

528
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: to his body, vanished over the Pacific Northwest was never found.

529
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: No trace of him ever found. No one knows if

530
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: he died jumping out of the plane. No one knows

531
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: if he lived a quiet life in the United States.

532
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Nobody knows if he headed over the over the border,

533
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: or if he's even still alive. It's one of the

534
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: great mysteries. Forty five years later, and today the FBI

535
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: announced that being for overseas listeners, the Federal Bureau of

536
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: Investigation announced they are closing the books on this unsolved case.

537
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: This from Special Agent in Charge Frank Montoya vs. CNN

538
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: dot Com. We have arrived at our conclusion today that

539
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: it was just time to close the case because there

540
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: isn't anything new out there. There's a lot that goes

541
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: into that decision, but really it was just time. And this,

542
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: uh is the basis of our premier conspiracy theory. We

543
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: throw it to you, Connor. I think it's like, I

544
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: think I got really interested in this because I just imagined,

545
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: like after the FBI closed the case, you being the

546
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: guy that worked on it for forty five years, you know,

547
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: and like you were just like this sprightly young guy

548
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: like in the bureau being like, oh, this is this

549
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: is how I'm gonna make my name and then like

550
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: how you're this decrepit, angry old man, and like you

551
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: come into work the next day and it's like, well

552
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: it's time to time to start a new life passion,

553
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, and you know that sticks to you too,

554
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Like if if you're the young guy he gets to

555
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: sign this case, it becomes almost like your waterloo that

556
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: you never really can move up in the in the

557
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: in the bureau. If that's stuck to you. They got

558
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: in a back room, hidden away looking through you know,

559
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: twenty thirty year old texts Connor. Who I mean, tell

560
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: us more though, I mean, I think the best part

561
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: about D. B. Cooper was like he was the ultimate

562
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: uh sort of like gentlemanly criminal, like uh, you know,

563
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 1: he like slipped the stewardess like a twenty and for

564
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: two dollars worth of bourbon that he bought on the

565
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: airplane and he told her to keep the change, you know,

566
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: and just like some really cool maneuvers like just new

567
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: everything said hey baby, let's take this plane to Mexico City.

568
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: And then halfway to Mexico City, they look back and

569
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: just disappears totally gone, like a US. And that that

570
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: kind of debonair debonair storyline about him in the narrative

571
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: is why, if you recall Mark and Connor, both fans

572
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: of the show, I believe that when there was a

573
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: lot of speculation about how Madmen would end, that some

574
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: people thought, because the timeline did sync up, that Matthew

575
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Weiner was going to have Dondreper be revealed to be

576
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: D B. Cooper. Wasn't the case, but that tells you

577
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about his suave um reputation. But I

578
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: have to ask you, Connor, because you did pitch this

579
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: as a new segment, I would assume that you must

580
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory to share about D B. Cooper

581
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: or did you just want to about him? I don't know.

582
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I think that the like the prevailing theory is that

583
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: it's this guy Kenneth Christensen who was like a military

584
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: paratrooper but also like did all these like really sweet things,

585
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: like set his high school record for the mile, was

586
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: a a world class tap dancer, like just an amazing

587
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: like human being, but also like you know, you can

588
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: connect the dots in a lot of different ways, like

589
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, to me, dB Cooper sounds a lot like

590
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: NFL media is Charlie Casserley too, So I wouldn't rule

591
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: that out. Wait, I love this, so you're saying, and

592
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: again the timeline does sink up because there's no way

593
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: to know how old Charlie Casserle is. Um, so he

594
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: could certainly have been that Works of Age at that time.

595
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: Could Charlie castlely B D B. Cooper is D B. Cooper.

596
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Charlie Casserley is Charlie Casserley D B. Cooper. Yeah, I mean,

597
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: just pretty good curious theory life in River Edge, New Jersey. Uh,

598
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and really you know, uh, the description

599
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: of his quote twenty three your career with the Washington

600
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Redskins is totally vague. And there could be such an

601
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to make his way out to the

602
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, jump out of an air plane and then

603
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: come back to help revive the Houston Texas And let

604
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: me just connect, let me just try to connect the

605
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: dot here. I know, Washington, the football team is associated with,

606
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: is actually the district of Columbia, Washington. But the word

607
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Washington he jumped out over the Pacific Northwest Washington theory link,

608
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean my one, you know, I like the theory

609
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: it's juicy. It certainly brings it back home to NFL media.

610
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: But how many times have I seen Charlie castlely working

611
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: the phones at like five am in our office, you know, grinding?

612
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: If you had stolen and gotten away with millions of dollars,

613
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: are you someone that's still uh that much of a workhorse?

614
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's well, it was only two under grand.

615
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Well that's true, that's not that much cash that might

616
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: have maybe paid for, you know, a vacation home out

617
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: in Virginia back then. Maybe it's like under grand and

618
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: he lost. Don't forget dB Cooper lost hundred dollars worth

619
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: of that money. Did the kid found it? Uh? Like

620
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: digging into beach somewhere there was like these vaguely like

621
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: almost completely disintegrated uh stacks of bills matching the sero numbers.

622
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe this NFL media gig is sort

623
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: of a ruse to sort of make up a lot

624
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: of the of the cash that he lost in the air.

625
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: The theory actually is absolutely rock solid, and maybe you know,

626
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: the FBI just doesn't need us to know it. But

627
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: if they, if they call winned this, then you don't

628
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: need to reopen the case. You just feel comfort the

629
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: case is over. Let him go, stat your limitations and

630
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: all that. One last connect the dot. Can I get

631
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: a little music for this? So he jumps out into

632
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: the sky into forest land, perhaps lands in some shrubbery.

633
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: Probably hurt himself, you would think, poked a lot of

634
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: holes in him, injured him. Maybe that explains why he

635
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: passed on Reggie Bush in the two thousand six NFL draft.

636
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: All right, okay, good, I like good good uh good

637
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Speaker 1: debut conspiracy theory. I like that. Yeah, I mean, you know,

638
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Speaker 1: I think that this one might last like three episodes

639
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe God. Yeah, this is uh, I'm sorry, this

640
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: is just just another terrible idea. No, no, it's pretty good.

641
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty solved a massive you know. I there's no

642
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: more curiosity around this mystery. Before before before we let

643
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: you go, we did want to touch on a around

644
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the NFL uh post that you uh you threw up

645
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Speaker 1: this week. I believe it was eight hours ago. Actually

646
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Speaker 1: you've been up for a while, buddy. UM, so we're

647
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: not gonna keep you on too much longer. But a

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Speaker 1: feature written by ESPN dot com on Kiko Alonso, Um

649
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Speaker 1: and you really this one really got you pumped up?

650
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit more about this

651
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Kiko Alonso feature um in ESPN? It was it was

652
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: written by I believe in a writer that lives in Colombia,

653
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: where Kiko Alonso's mother is from. And it's just this

654
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Speaker 1: epic like Gabrielle Garcia Marquez esque pros like surrounding this

655
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: like middling NFL linebacker and some of the greatest lines

656
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: like uh, you know, like a storybook hero who returns

657
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: to the castle to rearm before resuming the battle. Alonso

658
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: returned to the land of his ancestors on his mother's

659
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: side to recover and start again, like just something. And

660
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: then you just picture Kiko Alonso like this is on ESPN.

661
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Speaker 1: This is the same guy that that did middling chunky

662
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Speaker 1: soup ads. Yeah, but I got another one. Here we go.

663
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: After fifteen years, Kiko Alonso was back to milking cows,

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Speaker 1: savoring the smell of fresh guava, and riding a chestnut

665
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Speaker 1: chestnut horse across the field of his ancestas. Wow, that's

666
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: a chestnut horse. This feels like a massive prank being

667
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: put over on people. Is it an onion article that

668
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: do they have like a new onion arm at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: It was, Uh, the whole thing was just like incredible.

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like he's painted as this not only warrior,

671
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: but like deeper down, like this horse whisper who speaks

672
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: fluent Spanish, and like it just gave me this whole

673
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: like different perspective of like Kiko Alonso is as some

674
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, Antonio Bandera's character. It was incredible.

675
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Alonso walked around the yard looking for a more green father,

676
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: warning a photographer about to follow him, watch out, do

677
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Speaker 1: not go behind the legs of the horse unless you

678
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: want a vasectomy. It was it was great, and uh,

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: to top it all off, sort of a back ended

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Speaker 1: shot at Mark Sanchez, love of all people, Uh, Kiko

681
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: saying that his Spanish is natural and Mark sanche as

682
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: his school taught little uh little cannon fire there too,

683
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: just to start the NFL season. It also feeds into

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00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: Connor Oars and if you're around him on instant Messenger,

685
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Speaker 1: Connor ore has a unwieldy fascination with Chip Kelly, and

686
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Speaker 1: you know, you know that Alonso and chip Kelly have

687
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: ties dating back to their college days. So it fed

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00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: into that obsession of yours Connor. I think, yeah, I

689
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: mean totally, and I think that there's a reason why. Uh,

690
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, Tim Kelly is not just interested in the player,

691
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Speaker 1: He's interested in the person. And I could totally see him,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, him and Kiko riding horseback and just

693
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Speaker 1: really coming up with a way to take over the

694
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Speaker 1: NFL and take it by stormorrow. Wow, there you go,

695
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Speaker 1: So Kells to check out that feature at ESPN and

696
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: check out Connor oars right up about that feature at

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash news. Connor, you've done it again.

698
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: You've proved the doubters wrong. You've enraged uh, the antagonists

699
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: when it comes to your work on this podcast, or

700
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe converted some into uh fans, you never know, you

701
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: never know. Sorry to everybody. I'll see you next time.

702
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: All right, there he goes Connor or our New Jersey correspondent,

703
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: a married man with yes a mortgage. Before we go,

704
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: why don't we uh hit up the old mail bag.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a drop from the mail bag. We

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00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: gotta get we gotta work on that. You figure we

707
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: were to have learned from last week? Yeah, Tuesday? Does

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00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: that fall on the producer? I don't know. It seems

709
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, in the zone of what he

710
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Speaker 1: would be handling. Should we put down the chisels or well,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, let's just I think let the let's

712
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Speaker 1: let the producer take this away and see where he

713
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: comes up with next time. One more chance, one more chance.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, and I will need the

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Speaker 1: producer's help here, uh for our first question? And this

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Speaker 1: is from your boss. I don't don't think that's right.

717
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he's actually your boss. Really. I think

718
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: he's You're working in a structure in which he's someone

719
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: that organizes some of the writing materials and not the materials,

720
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: but some of the topics and kind of the direction

721
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Speaker 1: of the news. But I think David Evil is your bass.

722
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: I disagree. I see him as my as a superior. Okay.

723
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Speaker 1: The Luckless and Love Desk editor David Eally had this

724
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Speaker 1: to say, Uh, at David underscore really was La was

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Speaker 1: Monday Nights Bachelorette a La Raville Magnify coll for Jordan

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Speaker 1: Rodgers or Aaron and Mark. I don't know if you

727
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Speaker 1: were flying you were traveling back from the East during this.

728
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Speaker 1: If you're aware what happened in the latest episode of

729
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. I definitely am not okay. So it got

730
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: it got a little awkward and uh, if you check

731
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: out the latest Damashi podcast, we actually had a roundtable

732
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: discussion with Lindsay Rhodes and um Mark Is took as well.

733
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Speaker 1: Uh with damn check about this topic. But Jordan Rodgers

734
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: finally was asked point blank um by Jojo the Bachelorette,

735
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: he's now in the in the final four? Uh, what

736
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: what's the deal with his relationship with his brother? And

737
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: let's listen to it. No brother won't be there and

738
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: that's okay? Why? Um? Yeah, Aaron Um, Like I said,

739
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: I have a great relationship with my brother Luke um

740
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: and don't really have that much of a relationship ouch.

741
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: And then in a follow up question, um, she asked

742
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Speaker 1: does he know? Does he know you're doing the show?

743
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: And he said, I'm not sure. She said, so you

744
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: guys don't talk at all and he said, no, no

745
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: relationship at all. And it makes me think, how did

746
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: we get to this that that? Did Jordan Rodgers not

747
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 1: think that this stage would he would reach the stage

748
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: or maybe he wanted to reach the stage because it's

749
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: made his star even brighter on the show, but is

750
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: making things even more awkward for the Rogers. Is it

751
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: is awkward? I mean it's it sounds like Aaron Rodgers

752
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about it at all either. One question,

753
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: how does I don't know what the bachelorette's name is?

754
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: What it's Jojo? Okay? So Joe Joe uh actually thinks

755
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: that he's gotten this far into this uh national television

756
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: show and that Aaron Rodgers has never heard of the

757
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: fact that his brother's on the show. I'm not saying

758
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: that he's sitting down and watching it. It sounds well,

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00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: this was all tape before even the premier, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Alright, Well, I don't know the battle fair.

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00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking to becoming week to week with

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Speaker 1: new episodes. But but this is how atomic the situation is.

763
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: And we know Aaron Rodgers one of the great quarterbacks

764
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Speaker 1: of all time, and in our opinion, um is kind

765
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: of a touchy guy, as we've seen through the years,

766
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: can be a sensitive type. Dude. Uh you never heard

767
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: him get asked about it at Minicamp, but I could

768
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: sure as hell tell you, especially if this Jordan Rodgers

769
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Speaker 1: goes on to win this thing, which I think he's

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Speaker 1: the favorite that there. You know, when Packers Camp opens,

771
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be sending people down. Extra is gonna be

772
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: sending people down to ask the questions that the Beat

773
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: guys are not gonna ask because they know that Aaron

774
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: Rodgers will never forgive them for it. Uh So he's

775
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to face this in Packers Camp. It's gonna

776
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: be a distraction for him during training camp, but at

777
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: least initially until the PR people would somehow figure out

778
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: how a way to keep these people out of the mix.

779
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: But he was on the Bill Simmons HBO show yesterday

780
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and like a thirty minute sit down with

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00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons, who's famous for his pop culture stuff. And

782
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: I think his new Ringer site just like Grant Grant

783
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: Lynn has like entire podcast dedicated to The Bachelor and

784
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette Nobody. He didn't ask one question about it,

785
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: which tells you that was slashed red Cross three do

786
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: not ask about Jordan Rodgers awkward situation there to answer

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00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the question the La Ravil mcnifico, Who's who is it?

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Speaker 1: A big a lot of revealed mcnief go. We don't

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00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: know enough about I won't say it. I don't want

790
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: to throw anybody under the bus. Maybe Joe Joe whoever.

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00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: You know. I don't have a full scattering import on her,

792
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: but she sounds suspect. That's the difference when you and I.

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Speaker 1: I with my Spotify playlist. I want to get more

794
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: women involved. You want to You're the first guy to say,

795
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: blame it on the girl. No, No, I'm getting her

796
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: involved by putting her on the You know she's equally

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00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: involved in this fiasco at this point. All right, let's

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: move on to another question. Uh at j A. Bergman,

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Bergman our shadowy league figures launching an investigation into

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Speaker 1: mark subliminal Instagram. Um uh this, I don't really care

801
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: about that answer so much. But what I do want

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00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: to know about is did Westling or did you follow

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00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: through with your band of myself and Westling and Greg

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00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: on your Instagram account? Ended west follow through with banning

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00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: you for sixty days? I actually have gone a different

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00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: route because I I don't. I have not looked into

807
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: how to ban someone and kind of thought it would

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00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: get a little tender with west if I did that.

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00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, he and I are friends. I sent a

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00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: message through the actual images. And I'm not done with

811
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: what I've done with what I don't even know if

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00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: you've even seen what. I'm not plugged in unless it's

813
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: the first unless it's Super Bowl week, I am not plugged.

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00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I know you're not, so you will skate by, you know, unhindered.

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00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: But I put um, put all three of you on blast,

816
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: and if if there's more antics, and if there are

817
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: more cross words and nonsense coming from the three of you,

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00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: then I will press the band button. Good. That is

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00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: how this works. Good to know. I feel like I'm

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00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: in the clear no matter what. Moving on this from

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Speaker 1: Joel while anger at Joel wheels More starts the season.

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Speaker 1: R G three or Mark Sanchez. It's a good question

823
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: because both have competition at the position, both are veterans

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00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: with some battle scars at this point and questionable um

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00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: talent level frankly to be starters in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Who do you have in this that is That's a

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00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: great question. I I think I would go with r

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Speaker 1: G three based on the fact that they don't have

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Speaker 1: a young guy that they really that they drafted high

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00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: that I think is going to probably just be pushed

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Speaker 1: into the lineup at some point, I think Paxton Lynch

832
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: has a chance to start more games than anyone the

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00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: Browns would want to put in unless it's Josh mccount.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's we could be talking between six and

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Speaker 1: five games. It's a coin flip there, because I think

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Speaker 1: if the defending Super Bowl champions get off to a

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00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: slow start and Sanchez is struggling, um, I think they

838
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: will pull the trigger on either this. Uh Si Simeon

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Speaker 1: was that his name us Trevor Simeons or um, of

840
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: course the rookie. Uh. Meanwhile, I think the Browns, I

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00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: think they have a little more of an investment in

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: r G three and see if they can make it work.

843
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 1: So I feel like he might have the better chance

844
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Speaker 1: to make six starts and get old, and then I

845
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: could see Sanchez maybe lasting four games, just because the

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00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: stakes are higher for Denver right now, Yeah, I don't

847
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: think people are looking if Cleveland doesn't start four and one,

848
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: we're making a quarterback change. They could very easily start

849
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: one and four and it might not have as much

850
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: to do with r G three as the rest of

851
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: the roster. He just has to be okay, has to

852
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: be okay. But we'll see if he can be okay.

853
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: This from evez Ko at eve As one six four.

854
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: This is directed at Dan only. When will the Fantasy

855
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: Extravaganza returned couch come on? Well, not that that's also

856
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: not really fair. And now, of course the Fantasy Extravaganza,

857
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: which we have every August. Answer the question will probably

858
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: be in the final I would say ten days of

859
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: August will be a week long affair. Will each show

860
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: will have a really full, meaty segment devoted to fantasy talk?

861
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Was we help you win your fantasy leagues? Chris Westling

862
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal built Rhodo World brick by brick physically,

863
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: um so I really lean on them hard um as

864
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: the master of ceremonies. But that's not to say Mark

865
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: doesn't have a role. I mean he was the bad

866
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: boy on the Fantasy Corner last year. We threw it

867
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: to you for some hot takes if I recall, Yeah,

868
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: I think I was accurate with my takes. I mean

869
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: it is largely it's two shows I look forward to

870
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: if it's not three, because I can generally just completely unplug. Uh,

871
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: let's move on at h at the Funky Gibbon Illi

872
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: Star Gibbon, What do you honestly think of Greg? Remember

873
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: he won't listen. Greg's a was an excellent boss and

874
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: is a friend. Okay, I think that's very fair. I

875
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: like Greg. I respect him as a professional. I think

876
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: he's a gift of football writer with an eye for

877
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: the game. And um, I find him to be good company.

878
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. He's a mentor. But also

879
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: at pal uh from Richard Hunter at not that Hunter.

880
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: If you two, meaning you and I Mark had to

881
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: take it two week vacation together, where would you go?

882
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: Great question? Two weeks is a long time. That feels

883
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: too long. How about two days? Two days? Big Bear

884
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: no to secluded. I think we I mean we're we're

885
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Dad's you know, we're married, we've got kids, We've got

886
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of responsibilities. You kind of want to be

887
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: an animal, you know, let out of a cage. And

888
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: Big Bear is a little too quiet and remote. I'm thinking,

889
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just dial up New York City

890
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: or maybe New Orleans. We had a great time in

891
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: New Orleans. True for the Super Bowl we went there.

892
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: That's going to New Orleans that we don't have family

893
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: close by, no one, there's no responsibilities. You just go

894
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: and you let's see if you come back alive. In fact,

895
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna leave our cell phones there. That's

896
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: our wives will be like, oh did you leave already?

897
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, like on the kitchen counter, our

898
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: cell phones and anyway to reach us? Uh oh uh

899
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: did the reddit team? Uh? The Irishman reached out to

900
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: our subreddit board. Uh, the Around the NFL podcast subreddit.

901
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: Make sure you joined that if you haven't. For some questions,

902
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: did they give us anything? Yeah, Boiler Viking gave a

903
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: good one. What team would give the best storyline for

904
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: All or Nothing? Season two? And there will be a

905
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: season two? I can report uh that exclusively. You will

906
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: get a season two. Who the team will be? And

907
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: Mark and I talked a little downstairs about So they

908
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: went with the Cardinals last year and it really worked

909
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: out because not only were they compelling team filled with

910
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: great personalities, they were successful. And that's the danger with

911
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: hard knocks. You don't have to worry about it if

912
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good or not, as as long as

913
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: they're compelling during training camp, that's all you have to get.

914
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: You could get stuck with a team that stinks and

915
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: they get injuries or whatever, and then you're stuck with

916
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: them for the entire season and hurts the show. But

917
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: just on pure um charisma or what team would be

918
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: the juiciest, who would you go with? Well, it was

919
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: very NFC heavy last time obviously, even and even in

920
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: terms of plane the Panthers down the stretch, I would

921
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: go the Steelers because I think it starts with you

922
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: need to have an excellent head coach to watch. If

923
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: you don't, if you have a dud head coach, you're

924
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: in a lot of hot water. You've got that with Tomlin.

925
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: You've got a team that is going to compete and

926
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: be there at the end. And it also if they

927
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: ever got to the super Bowl, you know, we've seen

928
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: Brady and Manning win one. If it's Roethlisberger's year, it

929
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: could be absolutely a perfect storyline. That's a good one.

930
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: I like that. Um, I like that you went to

931
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: the a f C and I would pick an FC

932
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: team too, But I don't see when that jumps out.

933
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm intrigued a little bit by the

934
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: Raiders as a team because they are on the rise.

935
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Uh A, there uh a storied franchise that has a

936
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: lot of history and they've been downtrodden for many years,

937
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: so kind of being on the ground floor and seeing

938
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: when that potentially can turn. But again there's the risk

939
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: because if they if they stumble and our car takes

940
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: a step back or they have injuries, Uh, then they

941
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: become a terrible team to follow. But maybe I roll

942
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: the dice with the Raiders. Um, you know Aaron Rodgers

943
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: watching his interview yesterday and again a story franchise, and

944
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: and I'm I find Rogers so compelling and interesting as

945
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: a guy that always holds things back a little bit,

946
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: you're not really sure what's going on with him. Following

947
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: him for a full season that would be fun. So

948
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: the Packers are one from the NFC that would intrigue

949
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: me personally. I one third one and I if they

950
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: ever went with the Panthers trying to get back to

951
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: where they were, and you've got all the elements there,

952
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of personality characters on that team. It's

953
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna be different because you didn't None of those Cardinals

954
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: players knew what those cameras were there for. They had

955
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: no clue. Someone's gonna pick that up this time. Yeah, that,

956
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean it would be different. There was. Uh. I

957
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: spoke with someone at the Premier and he was told

958
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: that people kept on asking to go home with him

959
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: to his house cameraman, and he had no idea why

960
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: they were doing it. Uh. They oun out later on

961
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: anything else from the subreddit, Yeah, we have one for Mark.

962
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: Uh we'll get happy at Why was Mark living in

963
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: a y m C A good question? Uh, this was

964
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: well because I at the time was moving to Boulder

965
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: from the East Coast and took a bus to Denver. Well,

966
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: I was moving to Denver and I just didn't know

967
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: where with whom. There was a group of friends that

968
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: I've told you guys about. We lived in a it

969
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: was sort of a farmhouse slash commune. But that took

970
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: two months to get together. And so I needed like

971
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: a place that was very cheap, and they didn't even

972
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: have youth hostels. But but back then the Denver y

973
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: m C a in downtown had rooms that you could

974
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: rent for a week in the place had an absolutely

975
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: dangerous vibe to it, but it costs like it was

976
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: like ninety bucks a week. This is actually called I

977
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: looked on their website and these rooms are no longer

978
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: part of their plan as a y m c A.

979
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: They basically said, we shut that down fifteen years ago,

980
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it was for it was an unsavory,

981
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: Uh you felt environment. I did not. Yeah, I wouldn't

982
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: say that it was the It was not you know,

983
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: the Ramada, which is not even a good hotel anyways,

984
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: but sometimes strange to go with four seasons. It was

985
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: an odd environment. I would say, it's fairly remarkable that, uh,

986
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: you're alive. Some of the decisions you've made, it was

987
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: not a great decision in terms of being uh, putting

988
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: yourself out there for someone to be murdered by a

989
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: drifter or or some psychopath who praise on people in

990
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: vulnerable situations. It seems like you for a lot of

991
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: your life until you met the lovely Simone. Between basically

992
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: meeting Simone and graduating from college, it felt like a

993
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: nice meat a dozen years or so where it was

994
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: kind of a roll of the dice each day. There

995
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: were some things, there were some decisions that were suspect,

996
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: but you know, it was a gentler time, it was,

997
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: and it was really we really could live in y

998
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: m c A s and you know, ride busses around.

999
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: It was different. Yeah, Um, alright, good question, good mail bag. Uh,

1000
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: and that's it for today's edition of the A t

1001
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: L Debate Club. Uh. It's kind of like that music too,

1002
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 1: and we'll listen to the music on the playout too.

1003
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: It never reminded me of it when we first had

1004
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: a playing, but it does kind of reminded me of

1005
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: the old Mike and the mad Dog theme. It's almost like,

1006
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: I think that's Dick Banks uh checks loyal right hand

1007
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: man all things music. Uh, but it kind of sounds

1008
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: like the old w F A n Uh. That guy's voice.

1009
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: It has a similar vibe, doesn't it It does. I think.

1010
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think we learned today too that doing

1011
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: a show with two people is not as easy as

1012
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: with four. No, not as easy, but you know what,

1013
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: I think we came through it with the help of

1014
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Connor or with the help of the Irishman, and we'll

1015
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: be back, as he said on Monday, with the full

1016
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: team for the first time in three weeks, so that

1017
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: will be a lot of fun. But until then, this

1018
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: is Dan Hans's funding off for the Sizzler and the

1019
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Irish behind the Glass class out. Irish hands do some

1020
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: Mr Fancy fants the flames needing NFL Newts and is

1021
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: their chance? It's at l around the league, light of

1022
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: flame Boys, Pigskins, hot Tonight, Bird, baby burns. Well I

1023
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: know my name is Irish and I love to do

1024
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: draw rings. Well, I love to draw all day long,

1025
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: so wn't you do drawings with me