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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans. Welcome, Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: from tonight the hun Day Texans Radio Studios relocated for

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Speaker 1: the moment Sports Radio six ten headquarters here in the

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Speaker 1: beautiful Greenway area. Chris Santiago on the board, and we

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Speaker 1: are ready to talk free agency and everything happening with

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Speaker 1: the league year getting started Wednesday, and legal tampering underway,

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Speaker 1: and obviously the huge story of the day, a mega

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Speaker 1: story that I don't want to say no one saw

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Speaker 1: it coming, but maybe it's highly largely unexpected. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all the ramifications because we are watching and

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Speaker 1: talking about this in real time. Laramie Tunseel traded to

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Speaker 1: the Washington commanders. This is a real time thing because

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Speaker 1: as you already know, Shaq Mason recently released. So there

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Speaker 1: are two of your five starters out and a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to do on the offensive line. And that

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Speaker 1: really is the top story of the day so far.

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Speaker 1: The day, I'm not going to say the day is young.

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Speaker 1: The day's is kind of winding down. But this is

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Speaker 1: going on. I mean, because if you are one of

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Speaker 1: these gms, it's not like you know it's six o'clock Eastern.

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Speaker 2: I'm done for the day, right, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to build your team, you better

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Speaker 1: be working the phones, texting agents. You want players, you

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Speaker 1: got to outbid, you have to wu, you have to

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Speaker 1: do whatever it takes in order to get the players

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Speaker 1: you want. And as usual, and this is not the

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Speaker 1: first item on the agenda, I always wonder what didn't

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Speaker 1: work out for teams? What did you want to do

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Speaker 1: that you weren't able to do? And I always want

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Speaker 1: Nick to tell us that, but he's not gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: So there are certain ones you can kind of figure out.

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Speaker 2: Like the Panthers. It was being reported by Panthers media

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Speaker 2: today that they were gonna sign Milton Williams, the hottest

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Speaker 2: thing on the other side of the Eagles. It was done.

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Speaker 2: They were reporting it, they were putting it on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's like Patriots signed

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Speaker 2: Milton Williams to four years and something. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what it was, something million. Yeah. I was like, wait

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Speaker 2: a second, the Panthers are reporting. Well, then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you see the Panthers go get to Shaw

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Speaker 2: Wharton from Treshaun Warton from the Chiefs, and get Bobby

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Speaker 2: that they've added too, so they ended up getting three

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Speaker 2: defensive lignment. So it's like when you get Milton Williams

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Speaker 2: kind of goes back to our nomdi Asoma. Think we've

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about. Right, you don't get namdi asoball,

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Speaker 2: but you can go get two three players with that

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Speaker 2: money you're gonna pay one guy you can give to three.

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Speaker 2: Tunsel traded. Look it for us, you know, in the

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Speaker 2: building and being in the building, you know full time.

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Speaker 2: He didn't actually you don't even have to be in

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Speaker 2: the building full time. He just knew that. You know.

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Speaker 2: He made a lot of money. And you got a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys that you you have to pay contracts

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Speaker 2: to that you feel really good about. Derek Stingley could

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Speaker 2: be this summer, could be the spring, could be any

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Speaker 2: minute now actually, because he's now eligible in his third

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Speaker 2: year as a first round draft pick. You know CJ's

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Speaker 2: coming up, you know Will's coming up. Price tags have

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Speaker 2: gone on. I mean, look at what you know, the

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby deal, trump by the Browns. And I saw

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Speaker 2: somebody say this on Twitter, and I'm glad they said this.

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett was gone from Cleveland. I want to go

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Speaker 2: where I can win a championship, right, be part of

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Speaker 2: a championship building team. Hey, here's forty million a year,

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to Cleveland. Damn it. Like what you know,

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Speaker 2: it's okay to say it's about the money. When Deshaun

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Speaker 2: took the deal with Cleveland, we all knew there was

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Speaker 2: only one deal exactly, and his agents and people are like, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: He took to the Cleveland deal because even though he

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Speaker 2: said no to them already, no, we we knew exactly

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Speaker 2: what it was all about. And that was one of

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Speaker 2: those where the building we had heard some things about

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Speaker 2: what was gonna what was gonna happen, and it happened

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Speaker 2: exactly that way. So from that standpoint with Laramie, well,

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people texted. I mean my

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Speaker 2: five different conversations going. I had to remember which one

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's heard me talk about Laramie before, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't know a big name and I just said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and she just goes, okay, we don't have to worry

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Speaker 2: can't really tell, if you know, Larry was supposed to

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Speaker 2: but they could they could hear and see the false

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Speaker 2: start number seventy eight. I mean it's like that.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, you're not saying that that's why he

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Speaker 1: was in neither and nobody is. But it's added to

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Speaker 1: the fans and the people's frustration. You heard it from Dre,

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Speaker 1: You heard it from Dre Kim or what game that

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Speaker 2: And Andre's reaction to things, it's just so priceless because

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Speaker 2: he just wears it on his sleeve during a podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's why he got will tell it like he sees it.

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Speaker 2: He'll give you his honest opinion, and it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: And he loves Laramie's performance as a past protector, and

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear on this, but they do this for

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Speaker 2: a number of reasons.

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Speaker 1: It's not just cap space, right. They feel like there's

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Speaker 1: a higher level of performance. It's not even necessarily from him,

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Speaker 1: but in order to change the offensive line, that piece,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it has to go, but they

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Speaker 1: opportunity for others and others that maybe aren't in the

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Speaker 1: guys up front and develop a new offensive line, new

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Speaker 1: offensive line culture. Kole Popovich, the coach of the offensive

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Speaker 1: Not that he was a bad coach, but it's just

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Speaker 1: a different kind of mentality. And with Nick Careley coming

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Speaker 1: These moves are not made because Nick woke up this

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Speaker 1: morning and said, you know what, I'm gonna trade Laramie today. No,

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Speaker 1: they discussed these things. They have a strategy and this

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, tell me about these picks here, Who exactly are

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Speaker 1: they gonna get with these picks? I'm kidding, But they

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Speaker 1: get a twenty twenty five. So they got a third

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Speaker 2: Which was which was originally the Dolphins pick and somehow

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Speaker 2: that means they have two threes.

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Speaker 1: They have two threes. They get a seventh. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: they gave up a seventh for Kirk. They get a

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Speaker 1: seventh this year. Nick turns that stuff, you know, the

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Speaker 1: loose change. He turns it into higher picks very often.

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Speaker 1: Whatever he's gonna do. They get a two next year

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and a four next year. Now

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Speaker 1: Nick could probably take that two in the four and

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassio and you want to again real time. Things

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Speaker 1: change so quickly. We're going to go into the draft

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Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful ride during that Thursday, Friday, Saturday

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Speaker 1: and I'm on the air for almost all of it.

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Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see what they do with

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Speaker 1: these picks. Now, maybe they make a trade right now

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very well I take it back,

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Speaker 2: and this is going to be the next question. That's

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Speaker 2: what they got back into trade, which I felt like

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Speaker 2: getting what they got back into trade, I felt pretty

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Speaker 2: good about. Now, when you aggregate it all out, I've

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Speaker 2: seen some of the analytics people say it's like getting

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Speaker 1: Okay, like, wait, the contract goes to Washington, not all

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Speaker 1: of it all right, not all of it free.

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Speaker 2: Now you have to serve it yourself up.

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Speaker 1: You have seventeen million cap space, right, you have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to develop new and you have these picks and

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of a late first round pick. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I'd rather, hey, pick a two, turn something into

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Speaker 1: twos with a Nick Cassario selections track record. You know

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Speaker 1: you get starters out of this stuff. Yeah, there's no question,

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Speaker 1: and potentially nothing's guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I get it. So let's get to the sixty four

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Speaker 2: million dollar question. Okay, point who plays left tackle? And

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Speaker 2: how do you configure this thing? And what are kind

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Speaker 1: So I've got a question for you right about that,

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Speaker 1: A question based on your question. Can Titus Howard be

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Speaker 1: your left tackle? Because Blake Fisher last week I put

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Speaker 1: the label on you, you experts. You experts say Blake

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Speaker 1: Fisher's not a guard. I said that, But Titus can

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Speaker 1: be a guard. You tell me, Johnny Blake Fisher not

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Speaker 1: a left tackle, but Titus Howard could be a left tackle.

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Speaker 1: I still I think Blake could play left, but I

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Speaker 1: think for a younger player, i'd rather just leave him

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Speaker 1: where he is and continue along the ascent he's on

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Speaker 1: right there. Titus has kind of played all different positions.

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Speaker 1: I think there have been two times where Titus to me,

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Speaker 1: I've looked out a gun.

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Speaker 2: That's a dude. A lot of times I think he's

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Speaker 2: played very well, but I think there are times where

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Speaker 2: going man. Wow. One was when he had to play

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Speaker 2: left tackle in the COVID season. The year after the

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Speaker 2: COVID season twenty one, played left tackle and I said

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Speaker 2: something to him after the game. He said, my highest

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Speaker 2: grade all year. And I said, just like riding a bike.

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Speaker 2: He said, yes, sir, So I do think Titus, you

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Speaker 2: go over there and play left tackle. Titus, at the

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Speaker 2: end of this year developed into a really good guard.

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Speaker 2: So you've got one of the two taking care of

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Speaker 2: with Titus.

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Speaker 1: All right, But in all likelihood it's still guard because

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Speaker 1: Fisher is not moving at all likely.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he isn't moving. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: if you want to keep some continuity at least over there.

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Speaker 2: So let's say you do leave Titus at left guard.

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Speaker 2: All right. Let's say you leave him at left guard,

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Speaker 1: Okay, how many true left tackles have we drafted since

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Speaker 2: Josh Connery Oregon another solid player that I think can

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're drafting somebody left tackle number one.

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Speaker 2: Like Titus to me, would be the most comfortable one

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Speaker 2: When when Titus was in college, Titus played both left

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Speaker 2: but promise you whoever ends up starting at those spots.

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Speaker 1: Which is probably a big reason why that's exactly is happening.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go, well Patterson, Juice combos center guard somehow

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Speaker 1: because I understand, I feel it, the fans know based.

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Speaker 1: Take a minute, take a breath, don't overreact to anything. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to wide receiver here. We know they're acquired

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk seventh round draft choice today, Braxton Burrios. These

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Burrios five to nine and slot guy returns

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why he's available. Good deal, Burrios. If

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Speaker 2: Uh. Justin Watson for the Chiefs. Yeah. I like Justin

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Speaker 2: say this, and you'll know why when I say this,

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Speaker 2: you to Nico Metchi, Hutch Watson, Kirk Burrios Okay, and

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Speaker 1: That's that's I was talking to several people today and

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Speaker 1: You could get the band back together them all about

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Speaker 2: hurting like which conversation am I in right now? Is

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Speaker 2: this the one with Sean? This is the one my wife?

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Speaker 2: Is this the one with us? Like? Who? Okay, I

433
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Speaker 2: didn't want to mix those up. It's got to be

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Speaker 2: the right guy, it has. It doesn't just have to

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Speaker 2: be a talented Okay, this guy's got good feet, he's

436
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Speaker 2: got this. It's gotta be the right damn guy. That's

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Speaker 2: the most important thing. And I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 2: and tell you the Laramie was the wrong guy. But

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Speaker 2: I think with where this organization wants to go and

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Speaker 2: what it wants to do, I think they are looking

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Speaker 2: for somebody that fits them a little bit better. It's

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Speaker 2: like everything else. You know, teams run a three to

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Speaker 2: four h and back in the day, they'd run three four.

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Speaker 2: So you know a guy that was a really good

445
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Speaker 2: penetrating Aaron Donald type. Now it's a bad example, but

446
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Speaker 2: you know, a smaller two hundred and ninety pound guy

447
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Speaker 2: might not fit for them, might be good in every

448
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Speaker 2: single way, but he doesn't fit today in trading Laramie,

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, we don't think he's the right fit

450
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Speaker 2: going forward, so let's move forward. Let's go both sides.

451
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Speaker 2: So Washington gives up some picks. I'll be honest, I

452
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Speaker 2: was a little surprised to see the return that that

453
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Speaker 2: Nick was able to get for that trade. So that

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Speaker 2: that I like. So the Commanders they've got Dylan Thompson.

455
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Speaker 2: He's kind of running their their layer development program. He

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Speaker 2: knows Laramie. Yeah, Laramie's gonna want to do everything possible

457
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Speaker 2: because he's gonna be coming up on a contract year

458
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Speaker 2: very very quickly. And I think I think everybody is

459
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Speaker 2: going to win this whole thing and this whole trade.

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Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player. Look, I'm six years here.

461
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Speaker 1: Great contribution to the Robles, five Pro Bowls, Redivision titles,

462
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Speaker 1: three playoff victories. You know, came out of the darkness,

463
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Speaker 1: did well with the Demico era. The time is over now.

464
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Speaker 1: But you could say he's let me let me rate

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Speaker 1: this greatest left tackle in franchise history is a Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Brown or Laramie. I think Laramie is more talented, maybe

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Speaker 1: as a past protector overall, but Dwayne had I don't

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Speaker 1: do the run blocking and the.

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Speaker 2: Fit Dwayne had had as a player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the way it all fit together, the way

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Speaker 1: those five guys, five fingers and a gloves?

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Speaker 2: Are they stuck together?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying these guys don't do that, but

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Speaker 1: there was something special about that group off the field.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be more of that, more of that.

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Speaker 1: And again it's not nothing personal on him, but you've

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Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to get that through. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the new group, because it's not done yet. We call

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Speaker 1: it the new Group with players to be named later.

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Speaker 2: So the best of line Zeric went to the third rounder,

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Speaker 2: Mike Brizellen. Undrafted guy Chris Myers was a trade He

482
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Speaker 2: was originally a seventh rounder ye Chester. Uh No, Wade Wade,

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Speaker 2: Yeah was Wade Wade was a second agent. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 2: but he was originally a second I think I thought

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Speaker 2: he was a one with the He wasn't a first rounder.

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Speaker 2: I think he was a second rounder. And then you

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Speaker 2: dwayn who's the first rounder? So point being, it doesn't

488
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Speaker 2: matter how you get there. Third round? Wait, yeah, third round.

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Speaker 2: I mean look at the Eagles. The Eagles had a

490
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Speaker 2: dude from Australia had never played football before. They had

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Speaker 2: a guard in McKai Beckton who was a failure as

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Speaker 2: a tackle. They cam Jurgens. He took in the second

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Speaker 2: round and back up Jason Kelcey for three years the

494
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Speaker 2: right tackle lane. Johnson's a converted quarterback from way back

495
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Speaker 2: in the day. But they fit together. And next to

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Speaker 2: point about Kelsey, you know, you lose.

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Speaker 1: How are they ever gonna have any kind of cohesion

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Speaker 1: and that X factor without Jason Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Arguab to be the greatest center of all time, and

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Speaker 2: he steps away and the offense gets better. It's about fit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's about fit absolutely all right.

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Speaker 1: Sonora on Laramie Moore on the offensive line, and the

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Speaker 1: Texans moves of the day so far, and the division,

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Speaker 1: how's it shaping up so far? Anybody in Jacksonville, Nashville,

505
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis solving their problems. We'll talk about them and you

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Speaker 1: can text in. We're in the Sports Radio six ten

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Speaker 1: studio seven one three, five, seven two four, six ten

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Speaker 1: and also reach us on Twitter at Jay Harris Football

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Speaker 1: at Texans Voice. It's Texans Radio, Mark vandermir and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. Hyundai Texans Radio Studio temporarily relocated to

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Speaker 1: the Sports Radio six ten studios. So Johnny and I

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Speaker 1: live here with Chris Santiago behind the glass.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzel traded to Washington. That broke earlier. Now, other

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Speaker 1: things developing today. We've dug in so far and this

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Speaker 1: will all be available via podcast on the Odyssey app

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Speaker 1: right after the show, So anything you missed, you can

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Speaker 1: check it out there. And Area forty five come up

519
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Speaker 1: and keep you company all night long with the free

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Speaker 1: agent news, hot and heavy. Eric Murray is gone. He's

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Speaker 1: a Jaguar now, so we'll talk about that in the secondary.

522
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Speaker 1: But Treymont Smith comes back. It's not a safety, but

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Speaker 1: Treymon great special teams player once upon a time, returned

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Speaker 1: to kickoff for a touchdown against Jacksonville twenty twenty one. Right, right, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins is back. Derek Barnett comes back.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Rankins was in Cincinnati last year, but he comes back

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Speaker 1: to play d tackle. He had viral meningitis. Ouch, he

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Speaker 1: had viral right, Yeah, that's you think. Yeah, Bell's palsy

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Speaker 1: like me, is that you didn't have meningitis? No, so

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Speaker 1: my four month well, my kid's twelve now, but when

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Speaker 1: he was four months he had four months old, he

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Speaker 1: had viral meningitis.

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Speaker 2: Really fricking nightmare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, four month old kid a nightmare, but apparently

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Speaker 1: you want that one instead of the bacterial.

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Speaker 2: If you have a choice. Nobody wants no choice.

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Speaker 1: So Derek Barnett back, Braxton Barrios, we mentioned him signed.

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Speaker 1: They signed Justin Watson at receiver. They also signed Daryl

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Speaker 1: Taylor Darryl Taylor. Tell me about Daryl Taylor, what he

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Speaker 1: brings to the table, Johnny, I think Darryl Taylor's healthy.

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Speaker 1: He gives them some twitch off the edge, he can bend.

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Speaker 1: He came on the edge.

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Speaker 2: He got traded from Seattle to Chicago, and then uh

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Speaker 2: just wasn't working in Seattle, and then he was only

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Speaker 2: in Chicago for a short amount of time and they

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Speaker 2: just let him be a free agent. So you know, look,

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Speaker 2: it's a one year deal, five million dollars, same as

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Speaker 2: Derek Barnett, kind of paying the same, you know, for

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Speaker 2: both of them. And I think, you know, obviously Barnett,

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Speaker 2: he knows a few things. He's been around. He's a vet,

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Speaker 2: he's his season vet. I'll bring him back. But I've

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Speaker 2: always loved Darryl Taylor's pop off the ball always. I

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Speaker 2: always love that, and he got my attention. He won

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Speaker 2: number nineteen in college and so whenever you see the

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Speaker 2: defense end like, you better be pretty good if you

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Speaker 2: were in that number. So I like it. You bring

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Speaker 2: him to the mix. So now you've Will Deneil, Darryl Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Derek Barnett, Dylan Horton shaping up kind of Ice.

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Speaker 1: Hughes was back last year. But who knows he's not

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Speaker 1: exactly a young man anymore. I mean he is, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: You're young and way younger than us in football years.

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Speaker 1: You're not that young anymore. Sorry, but he knows that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't quick question. Yeah, hey, Chris, y'all know how

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Speaker 1: to change the TV in here? We got like Telemundo,

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Speaker 1: Big Brother going on over here?

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Speaker 2: Good? I mean, yeah, yeah, which do you guys want?

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Speaker 2: I'll put it on something that gives us.

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Speaker 1: Free Yeah, boy, yeah, this is Telemundo and it's ronic

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Speaker 1: Clinton watching. It's very watchable. But I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what they're saying. He doesn't even matter, honestly, this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: watch it every other time. It's free agency.

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Speaker 2: Man. You no, of course, this is stuff to throw

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Speaker 2: you off track. Listen, if Chris Jones was still here,

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Speaker 2: would be on Charmed, not Chris Jones. Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, the ex producer Chris Jones, wonderful guy. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: they also have So this is day one, this legal

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Speaker 1: Tampa activity has been happening. The Texans still have twenty

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Speaker 1: one people that were in the organization that are free

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Speaker 1: agents that they have yet to re sign or have

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Speaker 1: yet to sign anywhere for that matter. Twenty one including

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Speaker 1: let me give you some names here, Okay, Neville, hewittt.

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Speaker 1: I want to see what's gonna happen with Neville. I

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Speaker 1: think Neville is testing the market. Okay, I think I

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Speaker 1: think Neville wants to be a starter, and I don't

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Speaker 1: blame him when he's been in there the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years and played in some linebacker position. He's done

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Speaker 1: some really good things and his coverage is improved, so

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Speaker 1: I could see him kind of want to try the market. Okay,

590
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Texans need guards. Kendrick Green is available, He's still out there,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they bring him back. Maybe this is one

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Speaker 1: of those go test the market. Will go test the market,

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Speaker 1: and with Neville, maybe we'll get back together. Let's date

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Speaker 1: other people for a few days. Let's let's play the apps.

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Speaker 1: Swipe right, swipe left, whatever, and you come back. Ustefon

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Speaker 1: Diggs is obviously still out there as well at the Rodeo.

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Speaker 2: Oh he was, Yeah, I saw a video He's at

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Speaker 2: the Rodeo tonight or I don't know, I think it

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Speaker 2: was it's Paisley tonight right, maybe last night. But he's

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Speaker 2: at brad Paisley bringing out twenty different telecasters. I swear.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I were new to Houston, I'd want

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Speaker 2: to check out songs.

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Speaker 1: He's changing telecasters, the Great American Guitary, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, there's there are a lists

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Speaker 2: of guys that that you have, and this is where

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Speaker 2: the draft I think becomes altogether important, because you have

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Speaker 2: to have you I talked about this before, back in

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, before he took the job. I said to

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, I said, you've got a very top heavy team.

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Speaker 2: You've got your big you got your stars and guys

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Speaker 2: you would think are in that upper echelon, and then

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Speaker 2: obviously you had to turn to the bottom of the roster.

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Speaker 2: I said, you don't have that middle class. You need

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Speaker 2: a middle class. The middle class for this team going

615
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Speaker 2: forward is probably gonna have to start coming from the draft,

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Speaker 2: and you know, those third, fourth, fifth rounders that can

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Speaker 2: maybe develop into a star like Henry TOTOA. You brought,

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Speaker 2: you drafted Henry Totoa thinking you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you think. You get him in the fourth round.

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Speaker 2: He turns into one of your better defensive players last year.

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Speaker 1: So eight hundred reports today about everything, but there was

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Speaker 1: one about Drake Greenlawn the Texans flirting.

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Speaker 2: Well, how does that work? Though?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because you have Handriy, you have Christian Harris, still,

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Speaker 1: you have a z still. I mean, if you look

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Speaker 1: at you don't have Neville Hewitt. But it's not like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna replace me of those three guys, because Neville

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Speaker 1: Hewitt play special teams. This is not the same kind

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Speaker 1: of thing you signed Drake green law You think he's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna start if you knew, if you knew from the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the year, Toto, Christian Harris, and disease are

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Speaker 2: gonna play all seventeen games. You're probably not talking to

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Speaker 2: dre Right. But Harris has had a health problem. Has

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Speaker 2: Harris missed almost the entire year obviously his he's missed

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Speaker 2: for injury. And then you know Trevor Lawrence taking on

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Speaker 2: a late slide. Uh and Henry was really I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think Henry missed the game, maybe two, but not many.

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Speaker 2: I know mister packers game led the team in tackles,

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Speaker 2: So uh, I'm you know, and look who speaks fluent

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Speaker 2: de Miko Drake Greenlaw. So you know from that standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and I can promise you Drake green Law is swarm

642
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question, very swarmy. Now, I'm not gonna

643
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Speaker 2: sen to tell you that Christian Harris and Henry Totoa

644
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: and his ease aren't. No, that's not I'm just saying

645
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: that he gives you an extra level of juice and

646
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: extra level of swarm.

647
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Speaker 1: That can't be a splurge though. That has to be

648
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: an economically reasonable That's you're exactly right.

649
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: That you're exactly right, Yeah, because and that's that's a

650
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: that's a tough one because you know that he can

651
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: have an impact. You know that position has become that

652
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: much more important in the league over the years, But

653
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: you can't make that splurge none like last year where

654
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: you had all that money to make a splurge. You

655
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: don't have that. So it's got to be economical. And

656
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: that's why I say the draft is going to be

657
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Speaker 2: a big part. And it really wouldn't surprise me if

658
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: they bring in, you know, the last few years, they

659
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: really they have the opportunity to bring a bunch of

660
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents.

661
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: It's usually like six because they have all these other

662
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: free agents.

663
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, And so it might be where Okay,

664
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Speaker 2: well we've run in twelve undrafted free agent, get a

665
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: lot younger, thirteen fourteen undrafted free agents. I'm not saying

666
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: it's it's the right thing to do, but it but

667
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: it might be what they have to do based on

668
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: who they're paying what and how that all fits together.

669
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Speaker 1: So are gonna be bargains out there the longer you wait.

670
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Bargain their bargains for everybody.

671
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: Everybody knows about the Sam Donald contract signing with the

672
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Speaker 2: Seahawks and all that kind of stuff. There there, there

673
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: are bargains everywhere. Okay, you brought it up. Let's do it. Donald.

674
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: This is a little mini celebration to yes for you. Yes,

675
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: Donald will not be in the division. He's going to

676
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Great, spend your time there. Now we will

677
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: see him this year. Texan's going there for only the

678
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: third time in franchise history. We will see Sam Donald

679
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: at quarterback. By the way, breaking news put it to bed.

680
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Chris Grey Greenlaw, Okay, signing with the Broncos, Okay, we'll

681
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: see him, we'll see him, We'll see him at NRG Stadium.

682
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Kind of made no, kind of didn't make a whole

683
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: lot of sense for the Texas, like we just laid out.

684
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: But then again, maybe he maybe he knows that well.

685
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: First of all, good defense right then, and.

686
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: They just went out and got uh telenoahfonga safety. Yeah,

687
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: they're adding to the mix. They're gonna be here.

688
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Uh And if it's maybe green Law would love to

689
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: play for Tamiko, I would imagine he right good. But

690
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, if it's any kind of Denver Man's Joseph,

691
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, who does want to play for fans?

692
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? He aren't gonna play for Tomico.

693
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Speaker 1: They swarmed to They still have Alex Singleton, yes, yeah,

694
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: so there you have it.

695
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: He goes to Denver. Where was I at?

696
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: Donald Donald? Thank you Seattle Seahawks. So he goes to Seattle.

697
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: So we'll see him. But I didn't want to see

698
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: him in the division. I didn't want to see him

699
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: improve Tennessee. Now, I know Tennessee is not the same

700
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: as Minnesota, and we'll talk about Tennessee in a second.

701
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: The other one, justin Fields. I didn't want to see

702
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: him in the division. Either goes to the Jets. Good, good,

703
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: go there. What are the cults doing?

704
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: Now?

705
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: It's only day one, but they have said themselves competition

706
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson. Sam Ellinger is not that good third guy.

707
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Maybe a good backup, but come on, they need somebody

708
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: who could possibly replace Richardson. It's not Ellinger. So who's

709
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: it going to be. We don't know, but it's not

710
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys. I doubt Russell Wilson

711
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: in an Indie, but Russell Wilson at Tennessee. That's got

712
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: some heat on the wire here. Talking about chatter, as

713
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: people would say that covers everything. If you say chatter,

714
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: it could mean anything. Is it media?

715
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Is it actual? NFL can help, it doesn't matter chowder.

716
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: Does that? Does that help the Titans? If Russell Wilson

717
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: goes there.

718
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say Pittsburgh. Let me just track here.

719
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh made the playoffs in twenty twenty three? Did they not? Johnny?

720
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: They was the quarterback then, right, but they were awful

721
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I know, No, No, twenty twenty three,

722
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: three years ago. Used the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers

723
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. A guy who just got traded, Yes,

724
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett just got traded for Dorian Thompson. Robbers the

725
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Browns back in the division. The Browns saw so much

726
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: of Kenny Pickett.

727
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: They love them.

728
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna know he's just a backup there. They have

729
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: other plans, but I guess they view him as a

730
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: stable guy to groom whoever they drafts forget about them

731
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Speaker 1: for the moment.

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00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: So the Steelers make the playoffs with no Russell Wilson

734
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: or Justin Fields. They make the playoffs with k take

735
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: it last year. Wilson ends up getting the job when

736
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: he gets healthy and they play well for a while,

737
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: then they go right into the tank at the end, right, Wilson,

738
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: that's a good team the Steelers. Not a great team,

739
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: but a good team. Now I have DK Metcalf and

740
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: now they have DK Metcalf. So Wilson if he if

741
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: he goes to the Titans, that's not a good team.

742
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they can get better He's not gonna make

743
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: them that much better. Now, it could be one or

744
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: two wins. You don't want to be one of those wins.

745
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: But the Texans lost to them anyway last year.

746
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: Dan will Levis, Yes, So I'm not gonna panic over

747
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson going to Tennessee. And I wasn't going to

748
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: panic over Donald going to Tennessee either. I'm just kind

749
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: of being facetious and having fun here that Donald out

750
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: of the division. Get out, don't come here. Donald, I

751
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: think would have given them a little something to build

752
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: off of. I think as supposed to Russell. You know,

753
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: Donald still got a lot of tank. He's only I

754
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: think he's only like twenty, Yeah, he's seven. He's like

755
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty ridiculous.

756
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: What'd you think of Devontae Adams deal going to I

757
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: heard Sewn Seth talking about it this morning. You getting

758
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: two years, forty six million dollars and about the Adams

759
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: goes to the La Rams and he talked about wanting

760
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: to be on West coast. So he goes to the

761
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: West Coast and now they sign him where they're they

762
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: agreed to terms with him, and so now the Rams

763
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: can't find a trade partner for Cooper Cup so they

764
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: have to release him. What if Nick swoops in with

765
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: that whole will trade you a seventh thing?

766
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: He yeah, he could could he could, but you get

767
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: but you have to do that contract.

768
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: I got the contract thing fixed.

769
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: That's a deal breaker because but but I don't know

770
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: how it would help them if you could split it

771
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: or something. Who knows the DeVante Adams thing. You talked

772
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: about needing a middle class. I mean, look, I just

773
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: mentioned you have twenty one guys who are on this

774
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: roster or in the organization in some way, shape or

775
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: form ir roster, and their free agents. You have a

776
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: lot of players to sign. I don't know what the

777
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: total roster is at right now this second, because the

778
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: website's not even going to track that because none of

779
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: these are official. But you're down you you have to

780
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: fill out a ninety man, never mind a fifty three.

781
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: A ninety man roster coming up here by you know,

782
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: soon enough.

783
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: And that that's why I said, I think the undrafted

784
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: number is gonna be higher than it's been in a while.

785
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: And the bargain basement, let's sign this gag y yeah,

786
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: and figure it out. By the way, the Rams, thinking

787
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: that the Rams have Adams, that's amazing, and they have

788
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: cut but they're gonna release them in all likelihood if

789
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: they haven't done it already.

790
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: They've got Puka, but.

791
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Pooka's on the rookie deal and he's not a first

792
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: round draft choice anyway, so you can it's hard to

793
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: pay two guys that premium receiver money. You have Nico Collins,

794
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: he's your guy.

795
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: You pay Adams. What was the money again, two for

796
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: forty six? Now forget it.

797
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: You're not doing that like fans who complain about it's

798
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: never gonna happen. All right, I'm watching. Don't do something

799
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: like that. Now trade for guy. But no, no Adams,

800
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: no Metcalf. What did he get thirty or something like

801
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: that a year you got thirty.

802
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: You're not doing that.

803
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: It's never gonna happen when you have Nico making what

804
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: he's making right now, which is not that. But it's

805
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: a nice deal and he's your max wide receiver guy.

806
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: You know.

807
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: Now, oh, Mark, they did it with Diggs last year.

808
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite the same thing, right, So maybe Diggs's back,

809
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: who knows.

810
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Maybe. So we haven't heard anything on that yet, and

811
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: we look, a lot of these things may not only

812
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: take a day or two, they may take weeks, in

813
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: some cases a month or two, because you got to

814
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: let things play out.

815
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, rajis what he used to say in the commercial.

816
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: Where's he going? We'll talk about we'll pop probably hit

817
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: on that very briefly, but more on your Texans offensive

818
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: line under construction. More thoughts coming up on Texans All Access.

819
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Mark and John with you here at the sports radio

820
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: six to ten studios where we bring the hun Day

821
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio on the road. First few days of

822
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: free agency of the legal tampering period Wednesday, three pm Central,

823
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: That's when the league year begins. So all the teams

824
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: have to be at the number at the salary cap

825
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: number Wednesday at three.

826
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: It's a race to get to the number.

827
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: You can sign whoever you want right now, go nuts,

828
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: but you gotta be at that number Wednesday three. I've

829
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: been wondered, like, how strapped our teams and how stressed

830
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: are they trying to get to that number.

831
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: I gotta think the Saints are, Yeah, what have they

832
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: been doing? The Saints have been kicking the can out

833
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: on the road.

834
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: Now.

835
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: I know they restructured with Derek Carr. I know that,

836
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: doesn't that due at least they can do. Yeah, i'd

837
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: like you know, Johnny, I want them in the preseason again.

838
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: I want a home and home every year, back and forth,

839
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Saints making a thing.

840
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: Our fans like going there. Yeah they're fans. I don't care, actually,

841
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: but I like going there. I like that our fans

842
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: could drive down the road and see a preseason game.

843
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Only makes sense because you fill the building. NFL if

844
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: we play at Dallas?

845
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you not want to make money? NFL?

846
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?

847
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: I'd take going to Dallas every year because our fans would,

848
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, help them out and it's fun to go there.

849
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: But you know, it should be both ways because our

850
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: fans would fill the building to see even the reserves

851
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: and Dallas uniforms. They would fill the building to see

852
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: that or you know, close to it anyway in a

853
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: preseason context. Okay, the big story we started the show

854
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: with Laramie Tunzel traded to Washington earlier today, that story

855
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: break three o'clock. Broke three o'clock. Texans. They get four

856
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: draft choices. Now, the contract is a little tricky here,

857
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: but they do get cap relief it's a reported seventeen

858
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: million in change right now that they have. But they

859
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: just signed Darryl Taylor, right Taylor, Yeah, one year, five

860
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: and a quarter million. Okay, So we'll see how that

861
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: affects things. I mean, it should go down to twelve,

862
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: but then they do something else and it goes back

863
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: up because they're not done yet. Like I said, they

864
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: can go over, but Wednesday at three, they gotta be under.

865
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: They got to be at the number. But Laramie goes.

866
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: So it's a three and a seven this year, a

867
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: two and a four next year twenty twenty six. There's

868
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: a lot, as we all know that Nick Cassario could

869
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: do with these picks. Johnny said that he saw a

870
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: site calculate the value of the four picks as a

871
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: late first rounder.

872
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't like doing it that way.

873
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: I just like looking at a two, one of three

874
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: and saying, well, I get to take a two and

875
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: a four next year and turn it into a three

876
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: or possibly a two this year. Well a three, possibly

877
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: a two this year.

878
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: It goes back to the whole thing we're talking about,

879
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: a nomdiassima rule. Yep, would you rather have a first

880
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: round or would you rather have a second and a third. Yeah,

881
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: there's there a large part of me that would like

882
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: a second and a third. I just love Nick getting

883
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: another two this year somehow. So you know, we tried.

884
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. People are like, really, this is

885
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: from Sports Illustrated. Texas decision to trade five time Pro

886
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: bowler Larerman. Tons of left NFL experts confused. Well, then

887
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: maybe they shouldn't be experts. Yeah, Christi Prasso. Trading your

888
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: franchise left tackle with your star contract quarterback entering his

889
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: third year when the majority of the rest of your

890
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: old line was brutal is a perplexing choice by the

891
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Texans whenever something like this happens. And I don't know

892
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: whatever walk of life or whatever it is, but you

893
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: see someone that you like to listen to, you like

894
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: to watch, you like to talk to, you think is

895
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: really good at a job. When that person is then

896
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: moved out of that job for whatever reason, there's something

897
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: that is not there in the way that you consume

898
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: that particular individual.

899
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Well put a higher level of performance, you know. This

900
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: is what I've said for every Texans goodbye. Where it's

901
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: been kind of confusing to a lot of people. All right,

902
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this one is confusing to a

903
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: lot of people, but clearly it is to something. I

904
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: get it because Laramie is multi time pro bowler all

905
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: of that. But think about this, folks, and look with

906
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: some of the regimes here, I get it more than others.

907
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, Johnny and I went on the air hours

908
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: after DeAndre Hopkins was traded and we had nothing. We

909
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: had no guidance from management or whatever. Yeah, it was COVID, right,

910
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: it's just starting. And we went on and we were

911
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: perplexed about not so much about trading Hopkins, but the

912
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: take the take in return with this. Yes, and to that,

913
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: I say, especially in retrospect, you know, look at what happened.

914
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: Look at you know, DeAndre had one more great year

915
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: after that, but he's still playing. So and I love

916
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hodgkins. He's one of my own time faves. But

917
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: I say, they don't do things without thinking. They have

918
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: a higher level of performance. Now, they didn't get it

919
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: out of that. I will say this about that year.

920
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: They did put together an interesting wide receiver group. It

921
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: just never worked out. They led the league in passing,

922
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: but it just never worked out. Yeah, and so I

923
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: can't defend that this. Look at the people in charge,

924
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: look at what they've been doing, look at their performance

925
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: track record. You get Tamiko, Ryan's Nick Cassio. This is

926
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: a collective decision, cal McNair. There's no freaking way that

927
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: they're doing this.

928
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: Not a lark. Okay, this is a very well thought

929
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: out thing. Now.

930
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Look, they could be wrong, as it turns out, because

931
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: clearly they don't do it without thinking. These are the

932
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: next three options we have at left tackle. Either draft

933
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: or acquire a veteran who's got some experience, or both,

934
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: or whatever the case is, or move Titus. They have

935
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of different options here with left tackle. All right,

936
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: some of the texts quickly getting to this, can we

937
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: ask any question about football?

938
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: We want to?

939
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Of course you can. What about Kenyon Green? Hey, they're

940
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: hoping Kenyan Green can bounce back be a great player. Yeah,

941
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: he's still to take a massive step for that to happen. Yeah,

942
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: he's entering year four as a first hand draft choice.

943
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: They won't pick up that option, I doubt so. He'll

944
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: have a year to prove himself and he'll be competing.

945
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: What about Murray being gone? What could they do? Look

946
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Warter is under contract. You still have Kaylen Bluck,

947
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: and you have Jalen Peatrie coming back from injury. There's

948
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: three safeties right there. That's not the end of it.

949
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: M J.

950
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Stewart's also a free agent. Murray signed with the Jags. Yep,

951
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: So we'll see there's gonna be more. There'll be more

952
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: at safety and safety. You don't have to break the

953
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: bank to find a good, solid safety. Mean, look at

954
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: look at Murray. The last couple of years. Eric has

955
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: been instrumental in this defense, but he didn't they didn't

956
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: pay him a ton. Give me thumbnail, one sentence. Kenneth Grant,

957
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: third round, thir third round. What can I'd like to

958
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: smoke with that? Dude's smoking, you know, listed third round.

959
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't smoth.

960
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 1: Grant, defensive tackle, Michigan. He's going probably before twenty five, right,

961
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, but he imagine, yeah, I would imagine. Yeah,

962
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: Glendon Miller safety out of Maryland. Somebody wants to know,

963
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean day three of course, Yeah, Day three, late

964
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: round steal that kind of thing.

965
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, good good player. But he's the Day three guys.

966
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: So you know, it's kind of to that point of

967
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: going out and getting you know, some players that in

968
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: the undrafted world that you might have to have step

969
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: up and play. All right.

970
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: Also, let's see Justin Fields. Can he give the Jets

971
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: some explosion? I think I like Fields in New York.

972
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: If I'm a Jet fan, I'm not throwing a big

973
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: parade party today. By the way, Zach Wilson goes to

974
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins one year, ten million. He was with the

975
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: Broncos last year as a reserve, so he played. You know, look,

976
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: he had a better record as a starter than Aaron

977
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers in New York. Yes, that's not saying much. But

978
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: went to Denver, was cleansed in the show on Peyton Waters.

979
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: And now he goes to the Dolphins, where, look, you

980
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: play behind Toua, you might gonna play, You're gonna play,

981
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna play.

982
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: So Wilson with Mike McDaniel might be kind of interesting,

983
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: it might be kind of fun. Fields with Garrett Wilson.

984
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: I mean, look, when you take over a place as

985
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: a quarterback, if you know the number one guy and

986
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: have a good relationship with him, that's a big step.

987
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Garret Wilson never got out of the

988
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: same page.

989
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: And there's no divide Adams anymore to get confused about

990
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: who the number one guy is.

991
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, it is clearly that's exactly right. All right.

992
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for the show tonight. Man.

993
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: We covered a lot, but there's a lot more to cover,

994
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: and Area forty five is gonna be live with you

995
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: all night to discuss NFL free agency as more news

996
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: will undoubtedly break during their program, Keep it right here

997
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: and we'll be back tomorrow live at six Sean and

998
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: Seth in the morning breaking it all down. So much

999
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: to discuss, and again we're just mid stream and not

1000
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: even midstream early stream here and it's all in real time.

1001
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: And keep following all the accounts you love to follow.

1002
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: I would say Texans accounts too, but maybe for different

1003
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: reasons until we get to the official start of the

1004
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: league year Wednesday at three o'clock.

1005
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Christopher producing. Have a great night, Go Texans.