WEBVTT - Cheap Starters

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your host, Paul Chargion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Very excited to be with you because my

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<v Speaker 1>co host today is the Haggard Remains of Scott Fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the grinder you've been in for the last three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>my man.

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<v Speaker 3>It has It has been a time. I've been traveling constantly. Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in a lot of airports you have, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to travel for only thirteen more days travel right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So how many different and I know you unfortunately because

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<v Speaker 1>of the global outage, you had to miss the LA

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have done as a live appearance at

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<v Speaker 1>the Scott Fish Bowl LA. But how many did you?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you hit Denver obviously, Minneapolis in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were in Boston. Which ones? What am

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<v Speaker 1>I missing?

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<v Speaker 3>You're missing Las Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Yeah? The big circa pool side. Oh, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to one? Yeah, that isn't in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the one. I will say that was the one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know I'm you know, using up time vamping

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<v Speaker 3>now for no reason. But if that is the one

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<v Speaker 3>where I nearly shatted to hear, I probably could have cried.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there were people from Ohio, Washington, Uh, Minnesota, Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch come from Canada. They were like all over

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<v Speaker 3>they came down to that one, and so we did

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<v Speaker 3>the drafts. We're having fun. But later that night we

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<v Speaker 3>go to a piano bar. It's just dark, there's moods

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<v Speaker 3>and vibes. It's just piano singing, singing in a piano bar.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sitting on the end of I look over

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<v Speaker 3>and all these people from all these different places around

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<v Speaker 3>the country and you know, different countries are just laughing, chatting,

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<v Speaker 3>having a good smiling And I'm like, you brought you

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<v Speaker 3>help bring them all together. How did we get here?

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<v Speaker 3>You remember sify from the days before live events seven

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. It's just how did we get here where

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<v Speaker 3>we're connecting people on that level? But that's so cool,

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<v Speaker 3>it's wonderful. That is I love it. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>that's a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, What else will bring a tear

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<v Speaker 1>to your eye is the if you get the cabana

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<v Speaker 1>yea at Circus Pool. Yeah yeah, paying that bill, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring a tear to your eye. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a tier at the in the swim stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>Swim a wonderful and if you have enough people, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth it. It's worth it to get the shade.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is worth it for the shade. When

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<v Speaker 1>we were there a couple of it was like about

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<v Speaker 1>one week after you, My wife and I were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it was a one hundred and ten degrees yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And yeah we were sharing the cabana with

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<v Speaker 1>another couple, which which helped a lot. Shout out pat

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<v Speaker 1>G and yeah, it was uh yeah, the food and beveragement,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, pretty significant. That's a that is a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's an epic experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what it is. You're paying for in part

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<v Speaker 3>for the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Now, what I need to do. Unfortunately you like me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're working on Sundays during the NFL season. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to find a way to get an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday in the circle parts.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard it here, folks. We're gonna need from the

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<v Speaker 3>circle from the make it like deep in the winter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I can't get NFL. How do I get

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<v Speaker 1>NFL action? And plus Vegas is cold in the winter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so the pool's not even.

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<v Speaker 3>Open, I mean cold for Vegas is cold like well,

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<v Speaker 3>winter in Vegas, Okay, you know the highest you know

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<v Speaker 3>it gets down to like thirty eight at night, it

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<v Speaker 3>still gets cold.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think I need to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get this. If I could pick a time,

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<v Speaker 1>probably be like October when it's cold here in Minneapolis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels like right, I feel like we should plan the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should do that. How do we how do we?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we finangle that into our schedule? Let mean, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how much money have you raised to this point? Got

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<v Speaker 1>fish bowl efforts?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, we're closing in on four hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>This unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, wow, last last I looked is I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was in the three seventies or something. I could I

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<v Speaker 3>could be a little off, but it's ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. Congratulations. I'm sure that's an all time high

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<v Speaker 1>for Fantasy care. Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's outstanding and well

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<v Speaker 1>most of the scott Fish Bowl stuff has wrapped. A reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>the Guillotine League. The scott Fish Bowl Guillotine League is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be launching coming shortly. I don't have an

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<v Speaker 1>exact date for anybody quite yet, but it's coming, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there'll be another opportunity and there are ways to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure your spot in next year's scott Fish Bowl by

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<v Speaker 1>participating in the Guillotine League. Super Shop super Chop for

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<v Speaker 1>scott Fish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, with all that under our belt, let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the Let's dive into the big content for today.

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<v Speaker 1>The big topic for today. Cheap starters. Nobody wants except us.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I. Now we qualified what constitutes a cheap starter?

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<v Speaker 3>Did we?

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<v Speaker 1>And we did? You might not know that we think

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<v Speaker 1>we did. So it's got to be a starter on

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<v Speaker 1>his NFL team or probable starter. Right. So in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases I'm not even I'm not positive about my own guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guys who I think are all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be starters for their team at least at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, we need the ADP to be lower. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>These are cheap starters. They were cheap is important here,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were reasons for these players to be that

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<v Speaker 1>we think that they'll outperform their ADP. And we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you why we like these players and to be included

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<v Speaker 1>they I've decided not to do. We took I took

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<v Speaker 1>rookies off the table, as you know, because we spent

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<v Speaker 1>the last two episodes talking about rookies. So took the

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<v Speaker 1>rookies off the table. Because Thor and I have spent

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<v Speaker 1>two straight weeks on rookies.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're each going to give a quarterback, two running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>two receivers, and a tight end. Yes, I will yield

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<v Speaker 1>the floor to you, Scott Fish. Who is your cheap

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<v Speaker 1>starter at quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So mine is not as cheap because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>past about twenty where like eighteen nineteen twenty range is

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Kirk Cousins, et cetera. Types After that,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a whole lot of you're not sure who's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>win the job, or it's someone like Will Levis that

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, he's just actually not good, right, and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So I went with the QB nineteen, which

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<v Speaker 3>is again higher than yours. Yep, that's fine, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have a ton of faith in Kirk Cousins and that offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on this. Yeah, No, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>spreaching to the quiet right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Round ten, He's got Bijon who's a dual threat running back.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Drake London. You got Kyle Pitts, who, when

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<v Speaker 3>Arthur Smith isn't throttling him, has high potential. You got

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<v Speaker 3>Darnell Mooney coming over. You got Ron del Moore coming over,

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<v Speaker 3>who are absolutely capable number three and four wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, they they played the two two okay degrees

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<v Speaker 3>at other spots as a three or four with those

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<v Speaker 3>other threats around, I love them in that spot. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a top five PFF ranked O line. So Kirk's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stay clean, yep, and those wide receivers will have

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<v Speaker 3>to running backs and have time to get open tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Robinson's coming over from you know, the McVeigh stool whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>which is going to be the complete opposite of Arthur

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<v Speaker 3>Smith's super run heavy right.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at look at what Kevin O'Connell did as somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who has had a similar career path through the RAMS

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<v Speaker 1>organization with Sean McVay.

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<v Speaker 3>Even to the point of not calling plays sounds right yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and passing game coordinators, quarterback coaches. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>get to the NFL and Kevin O'Connell's been a top

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<v Speaker 1>five play passing play percentage coach. Interesting, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>the heavy, heavy passing play side of it. Yep. You

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<v Speaker 1>bring in Kirk Cousins, who's keeps every year Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>finishes as like QB nine, QB eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen and he's going off the board of QB

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen and one last one, last point on why I

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<v Speaker 3>like Kirk Cousins. Atlanta is the going into the season

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty first ranked defense with last year's worst pass rush,

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<v Speaker 3>which means maybe they have some shootouts, maybe maybe kirks

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<v Speaker 3>to keep them in games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I like the sound of that. Staying with a

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota theme, my cheap starting quarterback is Sam Donald. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't realize there's still people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that think Sam Donald might not start the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been pushing this on every show during my

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<v Speaker 3>SFB runs, that it's Sam Donald at least till Week six,

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<v Speaker 3>if not the whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand and okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean two parts I think are really important

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<v Speaker 1>for people to understand it. First, Sam Donald starts the

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<v Speaker 1>season the first time, as you mentioned, the first time

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<v Speaker 1>he might bow out would be their bye week at

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<v Speaker 1>six because the team the Vikings have got Week one

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<v Speaker 1>is against the Giants, that's a pick them, and then

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<v Speaker 1>after that it's a slew of difficult games of the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings and then in a trip to London and then

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<v Speaker 1>they go into their bye week. So Scott, the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>that Sam could bow out would be that week six, right,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he did, and this is I think important

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<v Speaker 1>for people, it's not clear that they would go to

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<v Speaker 1>JJ McCarthy to Nick Mullens absolu. They're so dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>giving twenty one year old JJ McCarthy the runway he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to get up to speed. Yep, they could go

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<v Speaker 1>to Nick Mullens first. So but I still think I

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<v Speaker 1>think Sam Donald's gonna be good enough. With the talent

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<v Speaker 1>around him, the coaching staff, the schemes they've got here,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's so much better for Sam Donald. Let's talk it

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<v Speaker 1>through for a second. And by the way, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>early training camp for the Vikings, but so far it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's bombs away on the deep stuff from Sam Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>He's look good. Don't read too much into it. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're three days in the training camp. But

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<v Speaker 1>the terrible coaching that he's had throughout his career, guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Adam Gase, Steve Wilkes, Dowel Loggings, Jeff Nixon, Ben mcado,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just, you know, almost nobody that he's

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<v Speaker 1>worked with, you made us exactly all these coaches, between

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<v Speaker 1>every head coach he's ever had, every offensive coordinator he's

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<v Speaker 1>ever had Sam through Sam Donald's career. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is still in the NFL. All the rest are out

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<v Speaker 1>of the league. It's unbelievable. Kevin O'Connell's a massive upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>over those guys. And then the terrible receivers he's always

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<v Speaker 1>had to work with, the Robbie Chosens and the Jamison

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<v Speaker 1>Crowders as his number one, and now you know, now

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<v Speaker 1>he gets justin Jefferson Vikings. He's always he's struggled with

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<v Speaker 1>bad pass blocking lines as well. Donald has, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed a lot of sacks and been under duress constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings are a significantly better one. They finished last

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<v Speaker 1>year's Pro Football Focus is third best pass blocking rank.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know that for Donald, I just you

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling like the pressure's off for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, granted he's starting, he's gonna be starting the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL as an NFL quarterback, so it's just amount of

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<v Speaker 1>presure to that. But he came into the league he

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<v Speaker 1>had to be the savior for the Jets, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it just I just feel like expectations are down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still in his prime at twenty seven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to carry his whole team. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like, you know, the stage is set for

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold to dramatically outperform his Round eighteen ADP is

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>That is insane. Let's go to the running backs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, uh, and we're doing two running back seats.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, you can do one. I'll do one, then

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<v Speaker 1>you and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Meat Okay, okay, I'm going to start out with Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Robinson Junior, going to RB thirty three off the board,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety ninth overall, round eight or nine, right in that range.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be the main guy. They've already reported

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<v Speaker 3>Eckler's looking at ten touches a game which Eckler can

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<v Speaker 3>be efficient with. And that's what Eckler's wanted for years,

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<v Speaker 3>is a second guy to help extend his career that

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have to take the punishment he You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Robinson's going to be the between the twenties guy for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you consider Eckler for this?

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I did, because he's going late to but

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<v Speaker 3>I feel Robinson is a shoe in for that short

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<v Speaker 3>distance and that goal line stuff. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>hammer Jayden Daniels. And he is not Josh Allen. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not Jalen. No, he's much more slightly build than that. No,

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<v Speaker 3>he's He's got my eleven year old's body shape. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kidding. That's extreme. But yeah, they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>hammer him him, and so Robinson's gonna get the goal

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<v Speaker 3>line work. He scored nine times last year. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can nine nine. I forgot totally forget. You're like

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<v Speaker 3>leaded back to listening. Either I threw it nine times

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<v Speaker 3>in there. I don't know if he scores nine again,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's gonna have that role. So uh. He also

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<v Speaker 3>showcased his pass catching. I know that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>mostly Eckler's rule, but he's still gonna get some That

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half catches for twenty five yards per game.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like five PPR points right there. But he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>the best between the tackles runner they have. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get the majority. It's it's a starting running back you're

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<v Speaker 3>grabbing in like round eight or nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm in a similar spot a Zamir White,

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<v Speaker 1>sure running back twenty four, round seven, he's the He's

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<v Speaker 1>the Vegas starter. Alexander Madison's going to be the back.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't even think it's close here. You'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>White was the starter for the last month of last

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<v Speaker 1>season and we got long looks at him. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen attempt game, a twenty two attempt game, a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty attempt game, and a twenty five attempt game for

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<v Speaker 1>the backup. The then backup for the Raiders. They bring

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<v Speaker 1>back the same coaching staff, the coordinator love with Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>loves to run the ball, and Luke gets he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get in line on that. We love volume,

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<v Speaker 1>and so does so does Antonio Pierce. So we love

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<v Speaker 1>that part of it. I thought White looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some explosive runs. In his fourth starts, White

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<v Speaker 1>had seven runs of more than ten yards and that

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<v Speaker 1>is double the rate that Alexander Madison had.

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<v Speaker 3>I am shocked Madison had that many.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I am too, having watched him all year.

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<v Speaker 1>White only scored one touchdown in those four starts. But

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<v Speaker 1>he will get the goal line work because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Madison, who scored zero rushing touchdowns last

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<v Speaker 1>year as the season long starter for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait for your side the five stat you

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<v Speaker 3>know talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go to your second cheap starting running back.

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<v Speaker 3>So my second cheap starting running back is more of

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<v Speaker 3>a flyers. It's a flyer on a talent that once

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<v Speaker 3>was and still was before he got injured last year

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<v Speaker 3>in Nick Chubb going off the board at RB thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen like it.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen the videos recently. He's only got guys like

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<v Speaker 3>Jerome Ford behind him and Deonta Foreman and stuff. We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen the videos of his workouts looking great. His his

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<v Speaker 3>weightlifting look.

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<v Speaker 1>Weightlifting was insane. It was five hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we need to see more lateral movement on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But in late twenty two he started catching more passes.

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<v Speaker 3>He caught four in the opener last year. Obviously he

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<v Speaker 3>got injured early the second week. But we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a team with the number three ranked offensive line, a

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<v Speaker 3>top three ranked defense, So maybe they get ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>just run and just run.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Stefanski loves to run. He doesn't need a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, they got, they got, They added Judy, so they

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<v Speaker 3>got Cooper, Judy and Djoku out there running routes to

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<v Speaker 3>keep you know, defenses a little bit honest out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nick Chubb on a contract year, I know you

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he has something to prove coming off an

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<v Speaker 3>injury on a contract year, wanting to get maybe another contract.

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<v Speaker 1>It all adds up.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say guys like Jamal Charles Adrian Peterson, like

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<v Speaker 3>they have come back from ACLTA, we'd normally say it's

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<v Speaker 3>an extra year. But we've seen it before. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>just last year with Breese Hall. And I know all

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<v Speaker 3>those guys were young, like Charles was twenty six, Peterson

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, Price Prize twenty three. You know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that he's job is twenty nine. But for an eighth round,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe ninth round flyer on a guy that could be

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<v Speaker 3>a Bellco starter. I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>In my Boston Scott Fish Bowl League, Okay, I drafted

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb? Yeah at round eight Yeah, four person, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're preaching to the choir that seems like

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous value on a guy. I am. I gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>starting Nick Chubb in week one? Probably will probably why

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<v Speaker 1>and just you know, seeing what it you know how

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<v Speaker 1>long it takes him to get back to having a

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<v Speaker 1>full workload. But am I starting him in December?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb's going to be there, and he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be back and running hard again. I'm confident. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my cheap starting running back. And I'll be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't love this player, but he fits all

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<v Speaker 1>he checks enough boxes. Devin Singletary new Start the Giants Motor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little nervous about super sleeper Tyrone Tracy Thor

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<v Speaker 1>nice from favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but and a Scott Fish favorite Thor Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Who stole from who on that? Like, Oh, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that was arrived at simultaneously organically.

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<v Speaker 3>He I'm sure he knew of Tyrone batt quicker than earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>There. Yeah, at this time last year, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who he was Singletary. You know, as you know Scott

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<v Speaker 1>good at a lot of things, not elite at really anything,

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<v Speaker 1>not and not a receiver. You know. He when I

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<v Speaker 1>went through all of his metrics looking for some eye

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<v Speaker 1>popping stats, like you know, Singletary, he ranks like his

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<v Speaker 1>running back fifteen twenty twenty five almost every metric he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's good, but he's still low mileage because he got

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<v Speaker 1>the light workload in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 3>In Buffalo his first two years he had very high

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<v Speaker 3>explosive run rates, but not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Less not so much lately. Right, you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>in that one hundred and twenty to two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen carry range for his career and never missed a

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<v Speaker 1>game in five years. I love that about Devin Singletary.

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<v Speaker 1>Offensive line for the Giants was a disaster last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but comes back healthier this year, presumably, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>a second season under for center John Michael Schmidts, who

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<v Speaker 1>should get better. Daniel Jones being back though, is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing this whole you know, the whole Giants offense

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<v Speaker 1>gets way better having a functional quarterback. So yeah, Devin

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<v Speaker 1>Singletary round nine running back thirty two is just a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you plug in and and forget about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give it honorable mention of Chase Brown running

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<v Speaker 3>back twenty I had.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on my list originally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, round eleven. It's just the camp reports are great.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much I believe in Zach Moss

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<v Speaker 3>for that role. And just Chase Brown annoyed me last

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<v Speaker 3>year because you would watch him like we watched him

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, wow, is he pops? He saw something?

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<v Speaker 3>Then you look at the stat sheet four for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, wait, I saw a good run right in there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I swear you're better than this. Yeah, so we'll see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Honorable mention.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm really intrigued by the idea of going Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and round what'd you say he's going in eleven?

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<v Speaker 3>Eleven?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jack Masson twelve? Sure, and just know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I've spent almost meaningless draft capital, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Bengals starting running back one way or another,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do like that. That interests me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the wide receiver. Position, and let's go, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>who's your who's your cheap starting wide receiver, your first

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<v Speaker 1>or two.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to start with the one that's at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of a tier. He's he's probably not as cheap

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<v Speaker 3>as you'd want for this this exercise, but it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be Chris Godwin at wide receiver thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and one of your your your next year first

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<v Speaker 3>guy is wide receiver thirty eight, So they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>in the same range, but they are actually two rounds

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<v Speaker 3>of part art because there is a tear drop after

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<v Speaker 3>you take Chris Godwin, Chris Godwin and key now and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a nice tear drop there. So, uh, he's moving

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<v Speaker 3>back to the slot, which is its natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Position, where he did not like that move last year.

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<v Speaker 3>He averages more catches, more targets, more yards. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a per game on a per game basis more and

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<v Speaker 3>he's also weirdly scored more weirdly because a slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy usually don't get that from don't expect that.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. But after after him, there's there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of who wins the Denver wide receiver two jobs? Who

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<v Speaker 3>wins the Green Bay jobs? The Buffalo Jobs, the Indie

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<v Speaker 3>number two, the Chargers guy, like everything is such a

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<v Speaker 3>battle after him, except for possibly the three we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>mention in a second, but also on for that team,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Godwin, It's it's Mike Evans, It's Chris Godwin. Then

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<v Speaker 3>after that it's Trey Palmer, rackem Jarrett, Sterling, Shepard, Jalen McMillan,

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<v Speaker 3>Cephus Johnson, Cody Thompson, Latrelle Jones, Tyler Canoe, Cameron Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a guy named Tyler Canoe.

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<v Speaker 3>Tanner Tanner Suner Canoe, I think by Braid just to

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know yet there was a Canoe in

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<v Speaker 3>this league. Yeah, Kate, well it's k and you e

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<v Speaker 3>somebody to do. But I'm not, of course. The last guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Rally Webb, who was an old timey baseball player.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciated, no kidding with that name, Raley Webb.

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<v Speaker 3>So like he's got nothing behind him. They're like, they're

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<v Speaker 3>just a ton of targets. Should be available for Evans

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<v Speaker 3>and Godwin this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I need this canoe guy, Tannered Canoe to

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<v Speaker 1>make the league and be meaningful so we can start

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<v Speaker 1>getting Canoe Sounders. You know we can have I want

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname. Possibilities are going through me right now. Jacoby

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<v Speaker 1>Myers going off the board is wide receiver fifty two,

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<v Speaker 1>round eleven. Do you know where Jacoby Myers finished last

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<v Speaker 1>year among wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like he felt like he was scoring every

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<v Speaker 3>week for a little bit wide receiver twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Not surprised he's going as fifty two this year. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you people are like, oh, quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 1>christ the situation stunk last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it's not different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, it's better, if anything, because Gardner Minshew was

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<v Speaker 1>probably better than Brian Hoyer for Pete's sake. Remember last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Myers, they moved him to the slot and he

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<v Speaker 1>ended Hunter Renfro's career. That always it for Hunter reprol

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he is a Meyer's a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven years old, right in his prime. Not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of special traits, but he just does. He just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the effort is just solid. He's always trying hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a little bit of the Chase Brown cynerme.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just describing where you're like, ooh, I see things

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<v Speaker 1>that look really good. The box scores, he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred yards a year. The box scars aren't huge, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I just I like that guy. In three

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<v Speaker 1>years since becoming the full time starter, Jacoby Myers has

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<v Speaker 1>only missed three games. He's got that nose for the

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<v Speaker 1>ends of that you mentioned. He just he get this.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Myers last year converted ten percent of his catches

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<v Speaker 1>to touchdowns. We'll take that, ya, that is a nice

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<v Speaker 1>conversion percentage. And he is your possible kick return ooh

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<v Speaker 1>for Las Vegas. Oh, I like that. That's a possibility.

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 1>They gave him runs out of the backfield last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some chances that Jacoby Myers, I like his

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<v Speaker 1>chances of a dramatically outperforming wide receiver fifty two. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to your next receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's drop six spots down to Rashid Shahit at wide

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 3>receiver fifty eight. How is he so late? Round eleven

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<v Speaker 3>takes over the more clear cut wide receiver two role

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<v Speaker 3>in New Orleans. He's probably gonna take a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>that Michael Thomas volume that they shouldn't have even given

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 3>Michael Thomas last year. To be honest, but last year

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 3>he paid. He only played like fifty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the snaps, which is a pretty limited role. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised he was that low. But he scored

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<v Speaker 3>five times, was targeted on one out of every five

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 3>routes he ran. His true catch rate was ninety four percent,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning that that's basically the percent of his catchable targets

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<v Speaker 3>that he caught, you know, not the total targets, but

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<v Speaker 3>the catchable targets, not the ones that Derek Carr sailed

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<v Speaker 3>it over. But they credited him with a target you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>average nearly two deep balls of game, twenty fourth in

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<v Speaker 3>the league on that metric.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the specialty for Shihi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, so sixteen yards per catch. Everything on him

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 3>looks good and efficient, but the volume is what's kept

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<v Speaker 3>him down, which he should finally get.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that could keep him down in his

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Car's arm. But besides that, more volume should have

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<v Speaker 3>every one of those you know, creep up he should.

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<v Speaker 3>He should easily finish above wide receiver fifty eight. I mean,

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 3>that's that sane.

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<v Speaker 1>We just I just some guys just give you a

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<v Speaker 1>spark of talent that make you go man. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hitch my wagonto that that guy, and she's one

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>A guy like that. Marvin Mims is like that too,

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<v Speaker 3>And I know they drafted Troy Franklin, but that's like

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<v Speaker 3>he looks like there's sparks when he's out there. I

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with Sean Payton, so I'm gonna give you

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy my next, my next cheap starter, does not

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of those sparks. To be honest, He's

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<v Speaker 1>just a plug and play good receiver. Deontay Johnson wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, round seven Panthers offense is a candidate to

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<v Speaker 1>be the most improved. Now. Granted they were terrible last year,

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<v Speaker 1>so they always have to be improved, but I think

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get a lot better. I liked the new

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, Dave Canalis coach, head coach, excuse me, terrific

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>track record for extracting massive improvement from struggling quarterbacks. Absolutely,

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, you know about that. Johnson's the

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<v Speaker 1>clear number one, I think, yeah, And you know we've

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<v Speaker 1>loved Adam Thelend. It's been an amazing career, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>at the bitter end of his career right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, just think about Deontay Johnson in the earliest last season,

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<v Speaker 3>Adam thielen Roll with all those targets and catch ups, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>only not getting tired, right, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is unfortunately happened with Theland He started out really hot

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<v Speaker 1>and then fell off. So you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Thelan's really a factor that way. Xavier Leguette is just

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<v Speaker 1>a bombs away rookie who's I don't think going to

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<v Speaker 1>be much of a factor for this year outside of

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of big plays. And then Jonathan Mingo and

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Tarras Marshall look like they've they might already be done

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<v Speaker 1>before they even started. You know, Deontay Johnson's quarterbacks with

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers after Ben retired, He's had Mason Rudolph, Mitch Trubisky,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and Kenny Pickett, and he's done well with it. And Okay,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so you know, sure you have concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacking in Carolina, but there's an opportunity here where

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young is gonna be better than Mason Rudolph, Mitch Trubisky,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kenny Pickett this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very likely.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually for sure, still drops so many balls, but that's okay,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>This is uh, this is still a nice opportunity for him.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>He's coming off of career highs Deontay Johnson in yards

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<v Speaker 1>per route run a dot yards per reception and the

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<v Speaker 1>best passer rating on balls thrown his way since Ben retired.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's you know, it's not like the game's passed

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<v Speaker 1>him by. Deontay Johnson's still young. Still can be a

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<v Speaker 1>nice kind of contributor for your team. All Right, thet'll

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<v Speaker 1>trap it up with tight ends. Sure your your cheap

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<v Speaker 1>starting tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a cheap one, and I gotta I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>throw in honorable mention again on this. Oh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start with a guy that you may have heard of

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<v Speaker 3>named John U. Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my guy twenty, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Round fifteen. I still believe in the athleticism and talent.

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<v Speaker 3>And if there's any what, any coach in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of good ones that do this,

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<v Speaker 3>but in extracting, like extracting some really good stuff from

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 3>people from players that just have athleticism and talent, it

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<v Speaker 3>might be Mike McDaniel. He's one of the best out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yes, And you know, they a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>weapons there. So they're gonna be games where John who

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't get his way because there's so many mouths

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to feed. Absolutely, but then there's gonna be games where

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 1>they do feed him, and he's going to have explosive

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<v Speaker 1>games if you can identify it.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely works both ways because Hill is there, because Wattle

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 3>is there, because a Chan is there, because they can

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>run it with a Chan and moster, but a Chan

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<v Speaker 3>out of the backfield too. He's who is double covering

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Smith and if you cannot, if you're not covering double

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 3>covering him at all, he's gonna have potential mismatches here

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 3>in a decent amount. To let the NFL in passing

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 3>last year, I expected a very similar situation this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just want the starting tight end on

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<v Speaker 3>that offense at round fifteen, round fifteen, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not even your starting tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>You draft no, right, he's your he's your backup, and

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<v Speaker 1>you pick your spots, and here in Fantasy Football Weekly

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>will help you identify those. When we drop our shows

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<v Speaker 1>every Friday. By the way, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Over under four take a chance on me of the

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<v Speaker 3>week for uh.

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<v Speaker 1>John Smith, He's gonna spurred me battling him constantly. But

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's only you and I, yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be picking our spots for John Ujohnu beloved John Johnna

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<v Speaker 1>before you do your your your your your backup honorable mention. Yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me get my guy in absolutely and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll save my honorable mention as well. Zach Ertz. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, round eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fighting a rookie. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fighting a rookie. Bensonit. And we all know that

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>rookie tight ends usually not always. Sam Laporta was awesome

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>last year. Usually as rookies, they don't do very much.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Ertz walks in is your probable starter, which was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the rules for today's exercise. Reunited with offensive coordinator

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury, with whom he played for twenty one games,

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and in each of Kingsbury's five seasons in Arizona, one

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<v Speaker 1>of his tight ends cracked the top five in yards

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and targets every single year, and two of those seasons

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>was Zach Ertz. You know, last year, Ertz missed most

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of the season with quad injury, which was unfortunate, and

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>then you know, the whole thing, you know, blew up

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>for you know Trey uh, Trey McBride ran away with

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>everything out, you know when once he went down, and

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Jaden Daniels in Washington could fit into that old rookie

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>stereotype of the kid looking for his safety blanket tight

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>end over the middle of the field when he gets

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>into trouble. You know the play. You know, everything's happening

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>so fast for a rookie, your first guy's cut go

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to that tight end safety valve. So zach Ertz, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not sexy, but let me give you a quote from Let

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>me give you a quote from Dan Quinn on zach Ertz.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the leadership for him would be good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's been remarkable. Ertz is not here to coach, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has the presence standards that others can emulate in

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the passing game. He has a very good awareness and

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the nuances of a route. So Dan Quinn loves zach Ertz.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury loves zach Ertz, has the history with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thirty three years old. Travis Kelcey was thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>last year. You know it's I think we can get

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>one last one last season on a zach Ertz.

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<v Speaker 3>And once again, these are players that they're not even

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>your starting tight end. They are the guys you're drafting

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>as your backup tight end that I could easily make.

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<v Speaker 1>Make hay talk to me about your honorable mention.

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my honorable mention is tight end thirty four twenty

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>all right, even deeper than Zach Kertz, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>Haydenhurst starting tight end for the wide receiver room depleted

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Chargers. Early reports out of the first couple

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 3>of days of camp are he is getting targeted a ton,

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 3>which was confirmed by Haydenhurst himself at s fbl A

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>when he said, Herbert is just throwing me on every play.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, he said himself. He was in attendance.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Haydenhurst was at s FBLA.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, Haydenhurst came out to s FBLA, hung

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>out with all of our drafts together. He has a

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 3>mental health foundation that we have supported, Fantasy Hurst has supported. Yeah,

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 3>there's actually like decent connections with a couple companies in

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the fantasy space. Yeah yeah, he's yeah, like like Austin

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Eckler has some of that similar stuff. Haydenhurst also does

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>and he showed up at s fbl A and he's

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>like Herbert is he is constantly targeting me. And that's

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the early reports in camp too, that apparently Hayden Hurst

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 3>is Herbert's Wood, be his security van.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this time last year, the fantasy experts, it

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>was Gerald Everett, Gerald Evert, Gerald Evertt, Gerald Everett. You

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>just yeah constantly, and that never really panned out.

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>There was Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. Now there's Lad

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 3>McConkie and Quentin Johnson tackle so Johnston excuse me, Josh

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>mixed in again preface twentieth.

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<v Speaker 1>Round, twentieth round. I'm look, I still have two rounds

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to go on my Scott Fish Boulder. Okay.

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I took Hayden with my the twenty two dot twelve

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 3>in mind.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So all right, I love it.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jolohnnie Woods, Johnny Wait.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Can't listeners like kode do we can we go one episode?

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>You mentioning Johnny Woods, Janie, I've already made my case

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>for him all the time. Yes, just one of these

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>times it's gonna pan. Look, this is my this is

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>my moss.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 3>What you need to do is I believe his wingspan

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 3>is like seventy four or something. But every time you

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>bet beted, the week sped, but increased it so by

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 3>week sixt Woodlin out there, man Wood, Listen.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>It took me four years to be right about Zach Moss.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm telling you, I'm gonna be right about

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Jillanny Woods one of these years.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this becomes a new thing with at least

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 3>with running backs, like year five were like take Bigsby's.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>A start out. Holy see, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a little bit of success at the beginning

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 3>with Peers.

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<v Speaker 1>Though Damian Pierce, we just this watch this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the year because Joe Mixon's cooked. But I feel

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like I burned all of my ability to stump for

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Damien Pierce last year. So I can't talk about it now,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>but some of you know us that the opportunity is

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>there if you're with me and you think that it's

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>effectively the end of the run for Joe Mixon Damian Pierce.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>By away, I was checking out secretly some of the

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>me in Pierce's metrics. Okay, last year, even last year

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>when you know he wasn't playing great. A lot of

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the advanced metrics are still really good on.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and he might be doing returns too, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's possible. He's got better hands than people know

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<v Speaker 1>or that they have your seem to use. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to Fantasy Football Weekly. Appreciate that we've got

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<v Speaker 1>guillotine leagues on the horizon. I promise we're getting closed

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<v Speaker 1>many of you. Of you, many of you are being

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're being patient. Thank you, Thank you. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>going on behind the scenes on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the curtain, under the hood, whatever the that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>There are really big things.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really excited. Man. Can't wait to tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>that soon. And we'll be back with more Fantasy Football

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<v Speaker 1>Weekly next week and we're only two weeks away from

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<v Speaker 1>the full long, two hourly season long show. Is a

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<v Speaker 1>training camp quick, yeah, feel free. We should so. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you in the greater Twin Cities area, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for an excuse to come to Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fantasy Football Weekly Live training Camp show is August

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth at Treasure Island Resort and Casino just outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Twin Cities. I'll be there, Yep, you will be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there. Most of our co hosts will be there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Thora will be there, Brian will be there,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you will be too. We'd we'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>see you in person, August sixteenth, Treasure Island. Yeah, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a ton of fun. Good Thanks for listening, everybody.

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