1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: They should be played at im Aga. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to High Volume. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys being here today because we're talking 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 3: about greatness. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: That's what we like to do week in and week out. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: And we've got somebody here today that exemplifies some greatness, 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: a foundational member of this franchise. When it talks about 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: the success that they've had, super Bowl winning champion, three 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: time Pro bowler. I mean, the list goes on and 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: on and we'll cover a lot of that. Welcome into 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: the show, the great Tarrek Glenn. 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jeffrey Boarman. I appreciate you having me. 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: Well, I love having you. I love to talk this. 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: We've talked a few times through the years, but I 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: want to dive in kind of deep to your career. 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: First question, do your kids know how great of a 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: player that you were in the NFL? 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, I used to always say, you know that 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: there's a little TikTok real that keep circulating around me 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: jeff Saturday and Peyton's altercation in the early two thousands, 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: and that was the only piece of evidence, you know, 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: social media events, so like really justify and said that 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I played, but you know the fact that you know 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: I've got inducted into the Ring of Honor. Gave you know, 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: all of my family an opportunity to come to Indianapolis 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: and really receive, you know, just the full experience of 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: what it meant to be a cult and Yeah, to 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: be able to have that moment for myself, but more 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: importantly my family was super fulfilling and it gave them 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: a taste of what I had, what I experienced when 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I was in Indianapolis. 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what You've exemplified a great career 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: and obviously you're loved in the community when you played here. 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: After you retired, I want to start at I want 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: to start up in Berkeley. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: I want to start at U Cal. With your career. 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: And you're a two way player in high school and 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: you were being recruited from everywhere across the state of 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: California especially, and you decided to go to Cal and 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: play football up there. Were you undecided when you went 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: in or were going to stay in the offensive or 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball or did they recruit you 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: specifically to stay on the old line? 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they recruited me. Well, they told me that I 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: was going to play D line. But I think that 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: you know, the story is is that there's a ton 47 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: of old linemen that they recruited that they started out 48 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: on D line and then after a. 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: Year they just switched over. 50 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: And so myself, Todd Stucey, Jeredy Newberry, you know a 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: lot of great NFL players, you know, came to cow 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: started off at D lineman and then switched over to 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: off this line. 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: That's great, obviously, we're glad you stuck with that. 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: When did you know, Hey, I'm probably gonna get paid 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: to play this game in the next couple of years. 57 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: Sophomore junior year, you were a four year starter up there, 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: So when did you know my junior. 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Year, you know, when I switched over to the on line, 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: we had two first round draft picks, or you know, 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: soon to be first round draft picks, of Reagan Upshaw 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: and Dwayne Clemens, and you know, I went against them 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: in practice every day, and I felt, you know, that 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: I was holding my own competing. I was able to, 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, really pass protect against some of the best 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: in the nation. They both were all Americans after their 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: junior year, and so after you know that experience, I 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: was able to really gain the confidence necessary to just 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of see myself in the NFL. 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: Well, you were the nineteenth overall pick. Help me out 71 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: on this one, because i'm interviewing you here, I'm drawing 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: a blank. Was it Bill Tobin that picked you? Or 73 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: was it Bill polly In that picked you? Who was 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: the GM when you were coming out of Cal? 75 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Names from names from a long time ago. So Bill Togan, 77 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: he was famous for putting together that eighty five Bears team. 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: He was the GM at the time, and he's the 79 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: one that picked me that ninety seven pollion came in 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: ninety eighth, and you know, I think, yeah, the fact 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that Bill Tobin was here, you know, he picked me 82 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: at nineteen. We had some holdout issues initially put me 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: at right guard, and then Upoleon came in, brought Howard 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Budd and the rest was history. 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, so stay there for me that first year. 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: You're known as that left tackle, that outside guy that's 87 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: not going to touch a quarterback, but you played guard 88 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: here your first year coming out of Cal. Was that 89 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: switch big for you or was that was it pretty comfortable? 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: Because obviously when you made the switch, you got a 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: new quarterback behind you named Peyton Manning. 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so like when I played guard, Jim Harball 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: was on quarterback right, and uh, and there's no, it 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of bragging, you know. During during 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: that season, I mean, I think we gave up like 96 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: fifty six sacks and it was it was a it 97 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: was a horrible situation. But I think it was a 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: blessing in disguise because myself and that in Meadows both 99 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: were rookie draft picks, got thrown in the fire, had 100 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete and get an idea of what 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the NFL was like. And then and then I think 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: when we got a new coaching staff, it really like solidified, 103 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: putting us in positions to set us up for success. 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: And then we drafted paid Manning that that can't hurt 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: it either, right, bringing in you know, you know, just 106 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: a generational quarterback, you know, it really helped out the situation. 107 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that first year it was my eyes wide open. 108 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot of right spots though. 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: I mean we had Marvin Harrison, sure, he was a 110 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: draft picker year before me. Yeah, it was the running back, 111 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: and man, it was easy to you know, block for 112 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: a guy who just kind of set you up you know, always, 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, put me in the perfect position, 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, the block, and so yeah, definitely had some 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: right spots. But it was a tough year. We went 116 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: three and thirteen. 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: How about you personally, though, you're coming out of you know, 118 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: you're coming out of Oakland, You're coming out of cal 119 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: your nineteenth overall pick. You spent two years playing on 120 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. I mean that's tough 121 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: to throw a young man into a situation. Not only that, 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: had you even been to Indianapolis or know about the 123 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: Midwest before that? Talk about hey this is a place 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: where I'm going to make my home. 125 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only time I've been Indianapolis was 126 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: the Combine, And so I always tell the story. I 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: was on the bus, you know, with you know, just 128 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: a bunch of the you know, the guys start flying 129 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: in from the Combine and so we were on the 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: bus driving from airport to uh, you know, the RCA 131 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Dome at the time and basically seeing all the snow 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: on the ground and that track on you know, Highway 133 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: sixty five on the way to the RCA Dome. In 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm thinking, man, I hope I don't get 135 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: drafted to this place. So you know, the day of 136 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, you know, get getting picked in the first round, 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: you're just excited. Yeah, you know at that point you're 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: not you don't care about, you know, anything other than 139 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: having an opportunity to showcase your skills and live out 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: your dreams. 141 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: That's Tarak Glenn and one of the foundational members of 142 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: Responsible as some have said, to make this from a 143 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: basketball state into a football state. And you were imperative 144 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: on that thing, Tark, because you were here in the 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: years of greatness leading the way. 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 147 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: When you talk about the difference between Jim Mora as 148 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: a head coach and and Tony Dungee, I mean you went, 149 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: you went, you went right into those two. What was 150 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: the biggest difference between those two head coaches in your eyes? 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think when Jim Moore came, it 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: was at a perfect time because the locker room was 153 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: just a complete mess. I mean, we just didn't have 154 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: any culture. We needed a coach that came in that 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: really you know, taught us how work ethic and really 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: taught us, you know, how to be tough, how to 157 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: play the game, you know, to be respected in the 158 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: NFL and so there was elements of just you know, 159 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Jim Moore's style that I bought that was appropriate for, 160 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, just the culture that he was coming into. 161 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: But then I feel like what took us over the 162 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: top was, you know, a guy like Dungeee who had 163 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more of an innovation to his coach 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and style. You know, he really learned how to meet 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the players where they're at, was really good on just 166 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: like making sure that there was like work life balance, 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, that guys were more than just what they 168 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: put on the football field, and what we did off 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the field mattered just as much. And then you know, 170 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: just really learning how to play winning football. You know, 171 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: I think that we won with Jim Moore, you know, 172 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: but I just think that the experience along the way 173 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: wasn't as enjoyable. And I just think Dungee did a 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: really good job of creating moments where we just really 175 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed each other's company and the journey was enjoyable. 176 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: And absolutely you're surrounded by greatness there with the arrival 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: of Peyton Manning, the arrival of Veger and James Reggie 178 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: Wayne as well. We can throw Marvin Harrison into that. 179 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: Dallas Clark, but you were that foundational guy. That's what 180 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I think that many people overlook how important 181 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: you were to the core of that, because you know, 182 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: it takes a locker room that has to be non divided. 183 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: You've got to be all in and obviously Peyton set 184 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: the way for that. You led by example though, Tark. 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: That's what I'm getting at is I watched it. 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: I covered you for years. You weren't a big talker. 187 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: When we wanted to talk to you, you would talk, 188 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: but you were a leader by example, much like that 189 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Tony Jungee had that same way. Didn't say a lot, 190 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: but if you watch what they do, you're going to 191 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: be in a good position. 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, whenever you 193 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: look back at, you know, really good football teams, it 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: requires to have just a core group of guys that 195 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: just embody like the culture that you want to create, 196 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: the winning culture that you want to have on a 197 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: football team. And I think that being a part of that, 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: I was an honor to be able to be a 199 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: part of that, you know, And I think my role 200 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: the fact that I had an opportunity, Me and Peyton 201 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: in particular, had an opportunity in Marvin to kind of 202 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: see what bad culture look like. Yeah, we really had 203 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: an opportunit unity as a young core to like really 204 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: build you know, something special, something different, something that we 205 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: would have appreciated to have when we came into you know, 206 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: to a football team. And I think that that's like 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: really what we try to create. I mean, I'll never forget. 208 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, me and Adam Meadows were Brookies, you know, 209 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: the same year, and we used to always say, man, 210 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: if we're ever veterans in the room, we would do 211 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: it different, you know. And so when we brought in 212 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: guys like Jeff Saturday, Ryan Dean, you know, it was 213 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: it was really about you know, making them feel a 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: part of something special. 215 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: You know. It wasn't about the Hazen. 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: The you know, the just the old school way of 217 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: doing things, and so yeah, it was. It was definitely, 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, great to be a part of building something. 219 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Obviously when you're doing it, you don't know how special 220 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be. But you know, looking back at it, 221 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, just I feel a lot of gratitude being 222 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: able to be a part of something. 223 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: And you knew greatness was around you, Tark. I mean 224 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: like I said, you knew these players there with Bill 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: Pollyan put in position Tony Dungee over from Tampa. 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: You know, you knew what you guys had. 227 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: I just want to touch on that Tampa Bay Monday night, 228 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: when Tony Dungee's birthday, he goes back in there. I mean, 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: the back and forth of that game. I always talked 230 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: to players that played in that game. I was exhausted 231 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: sitting up in the upper deck up there. Just if 232 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: you could just glance over that game and the way 233 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: that you I mean, we showed or it showed the 234 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: greatness of the Colts, mainly the great Paid Manning. 235 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can tell you this much. 236 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: You know that game obviously showed the grint and the 237 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: determination and I and it basically was the catalyst that 238 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: kind of took us in a new direction. But I 239 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: would have to say personally that was probably like one 240 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: of the you know games that that I didn't like particularly. 241 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the game I got hurt in, 242 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: and it's like it ended my streak. I had started, 243 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: like I think, over a hundred games in a row, 244 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: and I got hurt that game just on the flute, 245 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, somebody felling into my knee and then then 246 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: I missed like six games after that. You know, but 247 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, but but to playing a game like that, 248 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: I think was you know, just you know, very climatic, 249 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: obviously because you came from Tampa and yeah, everybody I 250 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: think in the league was thinking, like, they're crazy, you know, 251 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: to get rid of you know, such a talent. 252 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, to. 253 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Be able to you know, see us be able to 254 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: pull a game out for him on his birthday, you know, 255 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: back at Tampa at a place that shouldn't. 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: Have got rid of him, you know. Yeah, and the 257 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: way that it happened, you know, it was crazy. I 258 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: mean I don't know, it was like what one in 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: the morning when the game was over. 260 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a late one. Man. That's incredible. I 261 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: like bringing back those old memories with you. 262 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Uh, there's a couple more on there I want to 263 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: talk to you about, like like when you saw Peyton, 264 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: when you guys went into the following year after that, uh, 265 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: two years after that, you guys are humming like this. 266 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: You you you're getting better with Howard Mutt, which is 267 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: a name that I don't bring up a lot to people, 268 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: but Howard mud and I hope you can explain to 269 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: the people that are listening, like the importance of it. 270 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: Dungee's important, Peyton's important, Tarret Glenn's important. But the responsibility 271 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: of that man, Howard Mud to make you guys better 272 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: and to get that trust of those stars that were 273 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: all around you making plays on the outside. 274 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Two coaches, you know, for at least for me personally, 275 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: that had probably the most impact on my career was 276 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: Howard Mud and Tom Moore. Those two individuals, their philosophy. 277 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, I drunk the kool aid, you know, and 278 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I think our team did, you know, from when they 279 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: got there in ninety eight and on the Jim Moore's staff, 280 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: and then you know, obviously Tony kept them on. They 281 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: they really built like a philosophy around you know, playing 282 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: the best players and doing what we do the best, 283 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily having a system to force people to play with. 284 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: And I just thought that, you know, that always kind 285 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: of really resonated with me, and I think it resonated 286 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: with a lot of the guys that we brought in, 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, you have a guy like 288 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Edwin James, and you know he's a special talent, but 289 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, and he could run any run, but he 290 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: ran you know, the slant and you know the zone 291 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: play the best. But that was one of his better plays. 292 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, Tom Moore, you know, his philosophy 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know why you know, have third 294 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: going to a game of thirty runs and we run 295 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: these five runs the best. I mean, he was kind 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: of like the pioneer of analytics before analytics, you know, 297 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: and it was just like, hey, we don't run run 298 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: these five runs because we run them the best and 299 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: we won't make you stop it. 300 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: And so then and so and. 301 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: Then Howard Mudd his his philosophy was basically like, you know, 302 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to thrive when he's most comfortable, 303 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: and so everything from day one that when he arrived 304 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: was like, we need to make him feel comfortable. So 305 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: we're going to focus on protection, you know, whether it's 306 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: like our past technique, past block techniques to us understanding 307 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: the past protection. We walked through every scenario, like every 308 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean literally every single practice there was some element 309 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: of how we're going to protect eighteam, how we're going 310 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: to make him feel comfortable. And I think that that also, 311 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, was a great you know, just philosophy for 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: a young quarterback because you know, a lot again, a 313 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: lot of times you see, you know why I'm a 314 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: fan of the game. You watch these young guys come 315 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: in and there's just a you know, obviously an expectation 316 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: for these guys to step up and produce, and there's 317 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of focus around you know, what 318 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: is the team doing to make that put that player 319 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: in the best position to thrive. And I think that 320 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: they did that for Peyton, they did that for all 321 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: of us, and so I just feel as if it 322 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: was great. 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: It was a great you. 324 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Know, obviously an office of philosophy, you know, Howard Mudd 325 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: and Tom Moore tandem that they put together to really 326 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: like evaluate the talent that they had, you know, make 327 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: sure that they put us all in the best position 328 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: to be our best selves and then gave us the 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: confidence to you know, to feel as if like, hey, 330 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Tom Moore used to always tell me, like, hey, 331 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you got boot Smith this week, I'm not coming to 332 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: help you. 333 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: You can do it. You know. 334 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Howard Mudd, you know, when I had a bad play, 335 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: he was always about you know, hey, you know, it's 336 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: all about how you respond not necessarily about it for 337 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: perfect you know, and so it was. But they both 338 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: both coached really, really hard. 339 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: You know. 340 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: You know, if anybody was around practices, they know that. 341 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, me and Howard, you know, both heads quite 342 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: a bit. But you know, our love hate relationship, you know, 343 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like was you know, one in which I would never 344 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: take away. He's probably one of the most important people 345 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: in my life. 346 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: You know. 347 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I really felt like he really taught me how to 348 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, really be a you know, really good professional. 349 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: And I'm going to be able to show up every week, 350 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: being able to take constructive criticism, not lose my self control, 351 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: stay composed and really you know, put out the best product. 352 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: And you did and he did just that. Let's fast 353 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: forward to the super Bowl. 354 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: There's a story out there that Saturday was talking to 355 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: me about, and I think you were a part of it. 356 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: Before that game, you guys are set up to zone 357 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: block against those Bears, and like the night the night 358 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: before the game, something clicked in your your players, not 359 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: your coach's eyes, but you players that said, we can 360 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: take these guys man up one on one. 361 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: Let's get rid of this, Let's get rid of his zone. 362 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: Can you walk me through that because it was monumental 363 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: and obviously you're a super Bowl champion afterwards. 364 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: That probably the simplest way to describe it. But I 365 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: just think that, you know, we were like a play 366 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: action team where we were trying to like, you know, 367 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: obviously we would zone block, and then off the zone 368 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: we would play action and it would suck the safeties 369 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: in and get the receivers opened down the field. 370 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: And so you know that that was our secret sauce. 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: But you know, the Bears used to like Lance Bridge 372 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: uh and Brigs in er Lacer they would get them 373 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: in that A gap and they would show them and 374 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: so you know, the strategy going into the game was that, hey, 375 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's just the band Well initially was like, 376 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: let's play action them, but the reality was it was like, 377 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: what's the point of play action that they're already in 378 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: the A gap. You know, Let's just you know, abandon 379 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: the play action block them straight up, you know, and 380 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: and and and then and then you know, let you know, 381 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: let it all kind of play out. And I just 382 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: think that it's those type of like and I think 383 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: that that's what allowed us to grow and step to 384 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: the next level. It obviously won us a Super Bowl. 385 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, even though I didn't play 386 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: on the team, moving forward from that point forward, I 387 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: just think that we had finally, like you know, graduated 388 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: from a coach layer team to you know, a team 389 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: that had just like a group of lead leaders on 390 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the team that were players that could kind of see 391 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: experience things on the field, and if the game plan 392 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: needed to be adjusted, coaches were open and willing to 393 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: make those adjustments. And so yeah, we had to fight 394 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: for it that day because like the year before, you know, 395 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh had did something very similar and we didn't make 396 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: adjustments based on that, and so we were like, no, 397 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: let's not fall into that trap again, because teams are 398 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: game planning against us, trying to you know, suck us 399 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: into doing one thing. And I felt like that was 400 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: the first game we were able to, from a game 401 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: plan perspective, make an adjustment meant last minute to put 402 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: us in a position to be successful. 403 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And like we said, a super Bowl champion. I 404 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 3: love stories like that. Did you know walking off that 405 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: field that you were done playing professional football? 406 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I really didn't you know. I mean, 407 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: I you know, obviously you know, on a on a 408 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: mountaintop at the at that point, you know, walking off. Yeah, 409 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: when I think back of that moment, you know, I 410 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: never would have imagined that, you know, we, at least myself, 411 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, being a part of a super Bowl team. 412 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: I mean I never forget being in Peyton's room with 413 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Saturday and a couple of the guys and we were 414 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: watching like, you know, like every time before the Super 415 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Bowl played, Like you know, on ESPN, they'll show all 416 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: the past Super Bowl teams and you grow up and 417 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: you watch like the Cowboys or the Niners or you know, 418 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Still and all these like famous dynasties, right, and 419 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: then you know at the end of it, they're like, who's. 420 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: The next dynasty? Right? And you never can, you know, 421 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: put your team or yourself in that position. 422 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: And to know that, you know, you had an opportunity 423 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: to do that, and then us actually accomplishing that was 424 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: just surreal. So yeah, man, I you know, at the moment, 425 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: I did not know, but yeah, that ended up being. 426 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: My last game, absolutely, and you went out in style 427 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: a super Bowl champion. I love the fact that I 428 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: want to let people know you got your master's degree 429 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: at Purdue university, you know. I mean that's like the 430 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: accomplishments that you've done in your professional career and then 431 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: this at that point of your life. 432 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 433 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: You're you're retired as a professional and a great player, 434 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: and got some money in the bank and a great family. 435 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Why go back for your masters? 436 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: Well, I mean two things. 437 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: One, I mean, I want, you know, my kids to 438 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, thrive for you know, being the best their 439 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: best selves, you know, And I think that one of 440 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the ways that you can do that is by just. 441 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: Being a lifelong learner. 442 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: And you know, the NFL does a great job of 443 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: providing that resource for former players. You know, we get 444 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: to go and continued education for free. And I had 445 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: started it and wanted to finish it, and I wanted 446 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: my kids to know that, you know that, yeah, anything 447 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: is possible. So, like, you know, I was the only 448 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: person between my wife and I who hadn't had a 449 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: second degree, so I wanted to get it. I think 450 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: the second reason is that I was applying for a 451 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: job that I needed a second degree as well, and 452 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: so it was just like, you know, I want to 453 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: be able to continue to like, you know, accomplish my 454 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: goals sometimes those require you to, you know, do take 455 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: steps in order to accomplish that goal. And wanted the 456 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: steps was to get a second degree, and so I 457 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: felt that that would be the great, you know, the best, 458 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: next best step and go to objective to accomplish in 459 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: order to get that, And so that's why I did it. 460 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: You're a leader, You've always have been that alpha alpha leader. 461 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: And for as long as I know and i'm you, 462 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 3: we can't stop this interview without talking about what you 463 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: talked about earlier, the TikTok thing, the craze that went 464 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: all over Saint Louis rams in town Monday night. Uh, 465 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: the offensive line is wondering why we're not running a 466 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: football and you know, the quarterbacks saying just block and 467 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: then you see number seventy eight come out, Tarak Glenn 468 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: who grabs by the shoulder, the great Peyton Manning the 469 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: sheriff at that time, and you weren't having it, Tarak, 470 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 3: and you said, go sit down, Go sit down. Like 471 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: the reason I'm bringing that up is because that's Peyton 472 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: Manning to us fans and everything like that. But you're 473 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: his left tackle, so I know you have a relationship 474 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: with him. Where you can put him in his place. 475 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: But it was great watching that and you had to 476 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: get the waters calm. This game was close at the time. 477 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: Well, we were teammates, you know. 478 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like the one thing about teammates is 479 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: that you know, we all have like we're all in 480 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: a position where you know, we know that we compete 481 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: with each other every single day, whether it's in practice, 482 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: whether it's in games, and we know what it takes 483 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: in order for us to be successful. When you see 484 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: two teammates, you know, you know, competing at a high level, 485 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, of course, you know, Jeff is like, hey, man, 486 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: let's let's run the ball, and Peyton is like, no, 487 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: let me continue to call the players like I may 488 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: call them the plays. And so I don't think one 489 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: person was right or one person was in a better 490 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: situation than the other. But I think the bigger point 491 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: of the matter is just making sure that we're just 492 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: respecting one another, right, and you know, and I think 493 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: that that was, you know, in a situation where we 494 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: we've always like learned how to establish you know, like hey, 495 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: we'll take care of ourselves. You take care of yourself, 496 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, like, well we'll get it together. You know, 497 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: it's all good to exchange words, but you know, you know, 498 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: for them to be on the sidelines, you know, like 499 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: beefing with each other, man, it wasn't necessary, know, and 500 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: so it's like I think it kind of got embellished 501 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, as if I was like jumping 502 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: in Peyton's grill, you know, defending you know, Jeff Saturday. 503 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: But it was really about you know, hey, man, let's 504 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: let's go fight the Rams, not each other, you know 505 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And also to just we were young leaders, 506 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, Peyton at 507 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: that time wasn't like we know Peyton right now. It's like, 508 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's like generational guy, you know what I'm saying, 509 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: But like you know, a year five, year six or seven, 510 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: you know, like he was emerging into becoming who he was, 511 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so I feel like 512 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: you know that Peyton, manny, you know, required all of us, 513 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, to really come alongside of him and help, 514 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: you know, really like you know, get us focused on 515 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: what we were trying to get done. 516 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 4: You know. 517 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: By the time, like you know, like the Dallas Parks 518 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: got there and all you know, Anthony Gonzalez is hostin Colley. 519 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: You know, he was different. You know, he was like 520 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: he was like. 521 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Already you know there you know. But but but during 522 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: that time, you know, it was like really like we 523 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: were like a collective unit, like really trying to figure 524 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: out how to win, you know what I'm saying. And 525 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I think that that's also just kind of what you've 526 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: seen in clips like that as well. It's just that, 527 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: you know, you know, we were all just really trying 528 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: to support each other, you know, and trying to figure 529 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: out ways that we can, you know, just like you know, 530 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: keep our head on straight, you know, try to win games, 531 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, not you know, you know, don't not let 532 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: the pressure caused us to be internally you know, destructive, 533 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: but you know, to take out all that energy and 534 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: frustration on the opponent. 535 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what you you showed your greatness. 536 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: One thing I loved about is you're you are who 537 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: you are. You know what you get in Tarak Glenn 538 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: if I see out in public, I get a big 539 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: old bear hug and how's everything going? And I just 540 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: didn't understand how you did that because you're this gentle 541 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: kind beautiful man and friendly and then you go to 542 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: a bar fight for sixty minutes every Sunday against the 543 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: greats in the game. And I'm just another tip of 544 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: the half to you guys, because it's a bunch of 545 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: rare men that can do what you guys did and 546 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: walking off the field as a super Bowl champion and 547 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: waving goodbye to the game like you did, Tark. You 548 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: went out on top, man, and I just want to 549 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: again much respect, and I'm glad we had a chance 550 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: to catch up today and keep people caught up about 551 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: your greatness. And while we're at it, ho's things up 552 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: at Berkeley right now for you and your family. 553 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, thanks you great. You know, you know, my 554 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: wife and I are empty nestors now. You know, we 555 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 4: send our youngest to college at the beginning, you know, 556 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: a last ball, and so now yeah, we're like trying 557 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: to figure out life, you know, having kids in the house, 558 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: you know, working at UC Berkeley. Still, yeah, you know, 559 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: college football is in a frenzy, you know what I'm saying. 560 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: Just with the. 561 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: Nil you do a great job, and please give our 562 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 3: best de Maya and your family as well. I thank 563 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: you so much for sitting down, and like I said, 564 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: you're really a great guy to watch. I came into 565 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: this league, you know you had already had a couple 566 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: of seasons under your belt, and then just being able 567 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 3: to watch you and befriend you and your family. Man, 568 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm a lucky man, and Colts fans 569 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: are lucky that they have you as a foundational piece 570 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: because this place will always be known as greatness Lucas 571 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: Oil Stadium and Tarret Glenn, your name will never not 572 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: be up in the rafters at Lucas Oil Stadium. I'm saying, 573 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: wherever they play their games, one hundred years from now, 574 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: you will still be up there. 575 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: So again, tip of the cap in much respect. 576 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: Sir, Thank you, Jeffrey, appreciate you, brother the. 577 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: Great Tarrek Glenn right there, Glad you guys watched high volume. 578 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate you watching on YouTube. 579 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: Don't forget to like and give us five stars and 580 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: subscribe and everything else that you do. 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