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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, and welcome to our first episode of Unfiltered

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Speaker 1: the JBL Podcast, a JBL podcast produced by iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Betty who hi, and I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to be here starting this journey with all of you.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is meant to be a place to minimize

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Speaker 1: the noise and tune into what's unapologetically real and unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: So every episode I chat with the innovators and disruptors

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Speaker 1: who have taken a leap and dared to stand out. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So today's episode, though, we're gonna stall things off a

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Speaker 1: little differently because while I am also the host of

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Speaker 1: this podcast today, I am also going to be the

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Speaker 1: guest question mark. I know it's crazy, you guys. So

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know me, I am

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Speaker 1: an entertainer and a songwriter and an actor. I are

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Speaker 1: going to hear a little bit about that in this conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I have spent the last ten years seeing how

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Speaker 1: music can affect the world. I want to use my

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Speaker 1: powers for good instead of evil, and connecting with people

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Speaker 1: through vulnerable storytelling and sharing space with people is the

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Speaker 1: number one way I have figured out how to create

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Speaker 1: change and stop conversations. So I obviously relate so much

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Speaker 1: to the journeys our guests have taken finding their voice.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard being a creative person and trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out who you are. So today I am lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to share my story with all of you if

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Speaker 1: you will allow me. Um, But since I cannot interview myself,

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Speaker 1: our producer Sierra Kaiser is going to step into the

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Speaker 1: interviewer role for this one. So what you say? Should

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Speaker 1: we hop to it? Let's get to my story? Hi, Sierra, Hey, Betty? What? Oh?

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Speaker 1: You know? I'm just doing great. I'm so happy to

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Speaker 1: be here with you in conversation. What are something of

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Speaker 1: your first like music memories and and you know where

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Speaker 1: that started for you? Sure? Well, I started playing cello

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Speaker 1: when I was four, so I feel like that was

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Speaker 1: definitely like an early childhood sort of cello lessons, being

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Speaker 1: in the young kids orchestra and ensembles and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Actually playing music, so much of that is rooted in cello.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of expecting to hear a cello

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Speaker 1: performance from you, but I'll let you sit on that idea, Siarah.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you the album that I'm putting out

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Speaker 1: but it's official. I know it took me a long

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Speaker 1: time to get here, but I've made it. That's called

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Speaker 1: full circle, So it is. I can't wait to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you from cello. How did you get into singing?

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Speaker 1: And um, where were you first performing? Like on stage?

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Speaker 1: So I did a lot of musical theater programs and

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Speaker 1: kid at HASS I don't know if you get that

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Speaker 1: energy for me. I don't know if my extra version

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Speaker 1: is really giving you all that you need to know already.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was really where I found the

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Speaker 1: love for singing and performing, but especially singing and storytelling.

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Speaker 1: I started writing songs when I was fourteen, and that

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Speaker 1: like I couldn't possibly. Um No, I think the theater

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Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for the part of my brain that

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Speaker 1: think I'm very rare in that instance. So I love

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Speaker 1: that for me, love that for her. But I definitely

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Speaker 1: think that I have always felt much more comfortable. I

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Speaker 1: a Sarah burrillis Missy Higgins Ingrid Michaelson, like I was

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Speaker 1: the era of Grey's Anatomy music. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: As opposed to who we're all? I know who those

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean at this rate, I think I

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Speaker 1: smell like a Brandy Carlisle collaboration in your future, don't Sierra, Sierra,

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Speaker 1: her and those twins, her and those fucking twins and

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Speaker 1: those three part harmonies that she's been cooking out for

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Speaker 1: And you're here now, so I feel like we're in

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Speaker 1: the space to manifest you and Brandy, Sierra. You are

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Speaker 1: the universe. Ms. Carlisle, Hey, hey, Brandy, call a bitch.

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Speaker 1: You know where to find us any day. We all

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Speaker 1: and how they have an influence on your work now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think a huge part of my process um in

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Speaker 1: They all are triple threats in all these different ways.

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Speaker 1: But I think those women were born into different bodies

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Speaker 1: and and don't think us fans didn't notice you and unpregnant.

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Speaker 1: my god, baby's first movie. Thank you. I your peak, Sarah. Well,

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Speaker 1: other particularly young women. I think young queer people is

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Speaker 1: You can be anything you want to be. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's why representation is so important and so powerful. So

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Speaker 1: honestly to feel my best probably is dancing. I know

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Speaker 1: a dance floor, especially like a wedding dance floor. If

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a musician, I think I would stop like

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Speaker 1: a party company. But it's not event planning. It's like,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, you hire me to come make your party fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all your I'm gonna get your grandma

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Speaker 1: obsessed with me. Just you wait. It's on a dance floor,

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Speaker 1: just like feeling myself. I mean people stream she can

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Speaker 1: Dance by Betty Who wherever you find the music. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Sierra. She knows she gets it. We're

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Speaker 1: tying it in. What is your favorite music or artists

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Speaker 1: to listen to? Um ever? Changing on a big podcast kick.

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Speaker 1: I like audiobooks. I like to listen to stories. I

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Speaker 1: like to learn. I think I'm in a like input

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Speaker 1: I know that's kind of a cop out to your question.

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Speaker 1: I guess if I'm listening to any artists for real,

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Speaker 1: I'm listening again listening to a lot of musical theater.

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Speaker 1: It's like story time for me. I'm thinking about storytelling,

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Speaker 1: and I have like a pretty bang and musical theater

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Speaker 1: playlist that beyond in the shower. I mean, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta bring that's the best place to belt it. So

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Speaker 1: you got to bring out the theater kid, Oh big time.

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Speaker 1: I've got rage and that shower like no one's ever heard.

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Speaker 1: I guess, if we're really being honest, probably the only

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Speaker 1: music that I have consistently been listening to is Renaissance.

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Speaker 1: She's got me out here, like I want to be

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Speaker 1: on a dance floor. I like, I really Beyonce is

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Speaker 1: who I have a Beyonce tattoo. I have a w

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Speaker 1: W B D. What would Beyonce do? Tattoo? Right there?

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Speaker 1: So it's very like renaissance is very important. I should

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Speaker 1: have let I should have started, that's so obvious. I

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Speaker 1: should have started with that. And what advice do you

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Speaker 1: have for others who may be listening and struggling with

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Speaker 1: finding themselves and figuring out who they are, especially as

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Speaker 1: young people. You're exactly where you're meant to be right now.

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Speaker 1: Everything that is coming for you will come when it's

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Speaker 1: meant to come. And be grateful about today. It's presence.

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Speaker 1: It's about enjoying literally the moment that you're in because

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Speaker 1: it's over, you know, it is all a part of

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Speaker 1: the journey. And and be kind to yourself. And if

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Speaker 1: there's something today that you don't like about yourself, do

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Speaker 1: something tomorrow to change that and make that something that

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Speaker 1: you can love about yourself. You know, And you're on

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Speaker 1: the journey, and I believe in you. Literally as you're speaking,

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Speaker 1: I'm like growing a small blonde like wig. I'm becoming

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Speaker 1: Betty who in spirit, which is really everything I've ever wanted.

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Speaker 1: I think we should get the entire team Betty who

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Speaker 1: wigs for for these interviews. I think that would be

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Speaker 1: really important. Molly's nodding, We've got the whole team on board. Okay, great.

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Speaker 1: Last question, I spoke about the type of music you

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Speaker 1: started out with. When did you know that the music

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Speaker 1: you were making was like like Betty who and who

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Speaker 1: you wanted to be? I actually know exactly what that

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Speaker 1: moment was. I spent. So I went to Berkeley College

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Speaker 1: and Music in Boston, which was my college education. And

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Speaker 1: the person that I met there who was probably the

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Speaker 1: most impactful person in my adult life was Peter Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who was my collaborator, co writer and producer of my

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Speaker 1: first three albums. And so he and I spent basically

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Speaker 1: three years like in his basement in my dorm room

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Speaker 1: in his parents house, writing and recording and trying stuff

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Speaker 1: out and trying to make songs and figuring it like

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Speaker 1: listening to Katy Perry records and being like, how does

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Speaker 1: it sound like good? And listening to you know, the

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Speaker 1: music of the top fem Fatale and Teenage Dream the

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Speaker 1: Brittany and Katie records were like our pop education at

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Speaker 1: this moment in time. Peter sent me a bounce of

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Speaker 1: he texted me saying, I think I figured out the drums,

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Speaker 1: and he texted me the first demo of Somebody Loves You,

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Speaker 1: which is my first single, and it was the first

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Speaker 1: time that I was like, I think we could put

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Speaker 1: this out. I think we made it. So it was

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Speaker 1: likelve January twelve or something was I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting somewhere. Hell yes. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: Katy Perry, big, big shout out to miss Pair Katherine Hudson.

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Speaker 1: What a gal Kathy Hudson, the coming out of a generation.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, she did kiss a girl and she

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Speaker 1: liked it. Datty who Thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 1: the time. I didn't think I could be more obsessed Sarah,

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Speaker 1: Feelings Mutual, more obsessed with you now than I ever

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Speaker 1: have been. Can't believe it. Okay, that's it for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: But starting next week, I'm taking the reins and I

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Speaker 1: will be doing the interviewing. I'm going to speak with

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Speaker 1: some really amazing people and I'm excited for you to

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Speaker 1: come along with me, and I want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the podcast? Who should we

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Speaker 1: have on the show, What are you loving right now?

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Speaker 1: What inspires you to live in the world your own

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Speaker 1: way right and review us wherever you're listening, And you

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Speaker 1: can always find me on Instagram and Twitter at Betty Who,

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Speaker 1: and on TikTok on YouTube at Betty Who Music. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, dare to be bold and dare to be

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Speaker 1: yourself unfiltered. The JBL podcast is produced by I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and j b L. Our show is hosted by

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Speaker 1: me Betty Who. Our executive producer is Molly Sosha, Our

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Speaker 1: EP of Post Production is Matt Stillo. Editor is Sierra Spreen.

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Speaker 1: This episode was written and produced by Sierra Kaiser. Special

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