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Speaker 3: Buy you lafouche should how you say it?

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Speaker 1: By you let? What's it mean?

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Speaker 3: The fuk, the fuk and the buyo right here? Okay,

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Speaker 3: when the the bike came down from the river, it

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Speaker 3: forked off, just like the push the push pull you

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Speaker 3: use when you're hunting. Yep, it funked off. So that's

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Speaker 3: where it's got it got its name.

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Speaker 1: Oh a push pulls of foush. Yeah, introduce yourself. Tracy Collins,

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Speaker 1: you ever been on a podcast before?

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Speaker 3: No start? My first one.

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Speaker 1: I could recall how's it feel?

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Speaker 3: I'm a little flushy?

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Speaker 1: Also joined by his son Rodny Collins. You've been on

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Speaker 1: the show before round? Yeah, we we did duck hunting.

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Speaker 1: I came on the famous Greg Fonts Yep. Chili's here,

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Speaker 1: and then Asa who doesn't know about Asa Carter's right?

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Speaker 1: Can you do me the fit? Can you listen? Asa

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Speaker 1: Jackson Clark, Asa Jackson Clark. You're a professional fisherman, right, Yep, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yep, I've done it for about ten years on and off,

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Speaker 4: charter fishing down here.

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Speaker 1: How old are you? Twenty nine? About to be twenty nine?

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks? Yeah, so you're you're you're a

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Speaker 1: professional fisherman. Yep? You single? No, I'm engaged.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to help you out.

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Speaker 5: Uh do me.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I want. I just want you

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to for a second now. And then

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Speaker 1: people will come to me and they'll say, you really

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Speaker 1: ought to You should really read blank book? Right, you

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Speaker 1: should really watch blank movie? I Am. I will say

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Speaker 1: to them, like, if it's not gonna happen. Rather than

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Speaker 1: creating tension and something that needs to be brought up

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Speaker 1: again and again, I would just flat out say I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna watch that movie, right, you know what I'm saying, Right,

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Speaker 1: And then it's just it just it ends and I

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Speaker 1: don't need to feel guilty about not watching it. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to feel guilty about not reading the book.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna ask me again if I watched it.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say leave it at that. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: watch that movie. Okay. I would like you to go

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Speaker 1: and listen to Have you ever heard of a show

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Speaker 1: called the Bear Grease Podcast? Yeah, with Clayton Nukeom. I

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Speaker 1: would like you to go listen to the three part

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Speaker 1: series on Asa Carter. Okay, I'll do that. I like listening.

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Speaker 4: You're going to do if you if you, if you

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Speaker 4: tell me to go rate an A Carter book, I

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Speaker 4: might not have, but I can listen. That's easy because

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Speaker 4: I drive a lot and I like I like clay

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Speaker 4: nukelemb He's interesting. So you're gonna listen to the As

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Speaker 4: Carter series. Yeah, well it'll change your life, actually will.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of it's not my namesake, but I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that it's not. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it is. You never know. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: so Asa Carter his name, his namesake for his middle

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Speaker 1: name was Forrest Carter. Who is he was a gorilla

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Speaker 1: kind of a famous gorilla fighter during the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, ye cool, like a somewhat of a tactical genius,

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Speaker 1: if not a somewhat compromised character, but a famous civil

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Speaker 4: Gotcha, Well, yeah, after what you told me about his

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Speaker 4: uh kind of dichotomy of his life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very complex person. I'm interested now, ye interest

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Speaker 1: speech writer, regular writer, brawler confused the wild wild man. Yeah, cool,

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Speaker 1: so you'll do that. I will do that, don't I

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Speaker 3: Read it, Chili? How was your first oyster? Man?

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Speaker 6: It was incredible.

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Speaker 7: I was telling Chief here uh that I feel like

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Speaker 1: You're by you man, I'm by you man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm working on the the lingo.

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Speaker 1: I I've been nervous about the lingo, and I want

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Speaker 1: to I'm reluctant to admit. Well, last night I had

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Speaker 6: I feel like something you would know it is?

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Speaker 1: Well, it is a slow moving stream or river in

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Speaker 6: Is that what you guys thought of?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is that what it means?

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Speaker 3: By you was actually a branch of the river.

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Speaker 1: Because like I'm as down on the bayou as anybody

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Speaker 3: So never really gave you can go right here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Uh so, Terry people call you chief? What's that all about?

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Speaker 3: It came about when Ronnie's son was born and His

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Speaker 3: I said, Chief?

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at. Really, yeah, I like it?

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Speaker 1: Is that what your grandkid calls you?

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Speaker 3: Now they'll call me my friends, my buddies, they call

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Speaker 3: Well last night, I mean I haven't gone out in

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Speaker 1: So we was able to pick up a few like that,

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Speaker 3: A few. Yeah, well that was a little mess. I

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was able to get a few.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been in the shrimp business, Well.

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Speaker 3: I was. You see, my family was always in the

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Speaker 3: Well, we'd shift from one season to the next, from

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Speaker 1: the oil industry, Well, actually, crazy different class jobs.

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Speaker 3: It was ulchstering almost a year round. Now, okay, we

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Speaker 3: It was pretty much r stream more than then going

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Speaker 1: How far back was your family go in this area?

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Speaker 3: Four five generations. Uh, four generations for sure, fishing behind

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Speaker 1: What big storm was at, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they had a name of It was

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Speaker 3: before Betsy. I want to say it was before Bets,

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Speaker 3: you know, because my dad was caught in the lake

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Speaker 3: during Betsy. All the water was sucked out from the

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Speaker 3: storm and the boats were landing in the mud and

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Speaker 3: the water just rushed back. They had dropped the anchor

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Speaker 3: and all trying to before the water rushed back water

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Speaker 3: the planks were flying off the sides the mud. They

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Speaker 3: But they didn't have no you know, phones to see

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Speaker 1: That's that's how you want to say it.

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Speaker 3: But I still have the property in Shinier where they

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Speaker 3: So uh so that's pretty much the arch They were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a gill net. So it's it's sort of sorting

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Speaker 1: what it catches, correct, I gotcha? Oh, so that catches

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Speaker 3: Fish that way, whatever whatever was in season, you know,

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Speaker 1: Diamond packed terrapins. Yeah, tell me about the trap again.

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Speaker 2: They come up the shore to lay there is I

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Speaker 3: But one of the odds he's gonna come up the plank. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Here's another thing I'm trying to work on in life,

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Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. So I'm trying

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Speaker 1: Uh, you can if you just want to mess around

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Speaker 1: guess yankee turtles up where they like to come out

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Speaker 1: got to do is spook them, because they don't back

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Speaker 1: the pent I get that, but I don't get but

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Speaker 3: No, that's good man.

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Speaker 1: We all right, you understand it.

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Speaker 6: Greg, have a good idea.

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Speaker 2: I think you really, No, you got to think the

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Speaker 8: Turtles not sea turtles diving so like like he was saying,

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Speaker 3: So a lot of the turtles would congregate there knowing

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Speaker 1: To come up with places.

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Speaker 8: I've seen tarrapins tend to be sandy or parts of

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Speaker 3: Didn't I show you one of the barrels we was

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Speaker 3: They still had the barrel there. I've seen one. I

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Speaker 1: When you grew up, you were raised by people who

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Speaker 3: I still didn't grow up yet.

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Speaker 1: How did that talk about how you called oysters when

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Speaker 1: what was that transition like from from guys going in

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Speaker 3: Well that was before my time. So when when I

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Speaker 3: and the dredge pulling it up and landing on the deck.

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Speaker 1: Yep. But how is that, like are the oysters so

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Speaker 3: Well, you saw when we when we was loading the oysters. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well we will go pick that up. It might take

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Speaker 3: we just we're going to pile them up. We could

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Speaker 3: pile them up maybe a six inches thick.

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Speaker 1: Back up and explain this process. Okay, so that you're

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Speaker 1: moving oysters, explain.

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Speaker 3: Well, you got the state reefs and you got your

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Speaker 3: private leafs. Okay, so your private leases you can have

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Speaker 3: want to restock it. Okay, so you're going to go

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Speaker 3: to the state grounds and sometimes when it opens up, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's full. You could keep pulling them in as fast

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Speaker 1: And it's regulated. The state grounds is the regulating spot. Correct,

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Speaker 1: And it's full of juvenile oysters?

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Speaker 6: Correct?

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Speaker 1: And how do you pick those out?

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Speaker 3: And it could be from a juvenile to or market

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Speaker 3: ready oyster. Okay, we just load everything up and we

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Speaker 3: bring them and what is what is that? What permit

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Speaker 3: do you need for that? Oh? You just need to

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Speaker 3: have a right now, you need to have a seed permit.

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Speaker 3: But seed they called a seed seed permit, but back

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Speaker 3: then you didn't have to have one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you're you're hand grabbing these no no, no,

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Speaker 1: with the dredge, so you're dredging off the state round. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Since I've been in the arster business, I've never had

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Speaker 3: my grandfather, they were handpicking. Now we moved up to

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Speaker 3: the larger boats, and now we're going to state grounds

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Speaker 3: and picking up the seed oyster and bringing them to

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Speaker 3: our private grounds and washing them over. So we might

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Speaker 3: do that for two months and just fill up a

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Speaker 3: few acres of grounds. But why move them to refish

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Speaker 3: them later? Yeah, but they maybe they're not market size yet,

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Speaker 3: But what do you Why not just leave them where

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Speaker 3: they are until they're because they're like nine hours away,

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Speaker 3: So we bringing them home where we can go out

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Speaker 3: our day and then we could resealm. We might fish

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Speaker 3: up shit, eight hundred sacks of oysters in a day

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Speaker 3: and a half.

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Speaker 1: Just to load up the boat. How much does the sack.

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Speaker 3: Back? Then? Shit, I got paid as little as eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: How many pounds?

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00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: One hundred, one hundred pounds or less? You know?

440
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so you you have a place, You have a

441
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: private place. He's a private property that is suitable for oysters.

442
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: Correct.

443
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: You go to a remote area far away and you

444
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: dredge up juvenile. You just dredge up oysters, and then

445
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: you're allowed to take those to your spot and distribute

446
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: them correct and then give them how much.

447
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: Time depending on the size within from like September to April.

448
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: Some of them will grow an inch and a half

449
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 3: with the salinity change. You might be taking an oyster

450
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 3: from a brackish water and putting them in a heavy

451
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 3: salinity area. Uh huh. And you got to fish them

452
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: before the summer toimp because the salinity, like we spoke yesterday,

453
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: may come in heavy and kill them. So we bringing

454
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: them to this area to for them to grow fast

455
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 3: and have a great tasting yster. Or we were known

456
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: if I would taste the oyster, because you could take

457
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: an orchester and move it a couple of miles away,

458
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 3: and if it has a different water source, it'll taste

459
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: different than that chester right there.

460
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Got it, And we had a great area for a

461
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: good taste and archster. That's the thing that I never

462
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: understood about oysters. Is it oysters blue muscles? Yeah, that

463
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: they're like these like circumpolar species. It's the same thing, correct,

464
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: So when you see oysters like this name, that name,

465
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: it's just different waters. Yeah, it's not like a different

466
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: kind of oysters, the same oyster.

467
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: I could take an East Cools yster and bring it

468
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: right here to Grand Island and leave it for a month,

469
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: not even that long. You know what, It's gonna taste

470
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: like a Grand Island arster. It's not an East cools uster. Yeah,

471
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: so we would take these oysters, especially the closer you

472
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: could get to the fresh water line that orchters are thriving.

473
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 3: You take those ysters and put in a heavy solemnity area. Yep, man,

474
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 3: they're just gonna explode and gruel and be happy. Man.

475
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: But they're vulnerable to death. Oh yeah, But we.

476
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 3: Usually know all the timing that we're going to fish

477
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 3: them out before to get to that point.

478
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: And then when you go back. So you bring these

479
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: seed oysters in and you plan them and then you

480
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: harvest them with a dredge, right, and you're bringing them

481
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: up Like Ronnie. When we were in your boat last night,

482
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Ronnie was talking about being a little kid and being

483
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse of that boat and we're looking out

484
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: on the deck where you were pulling shrimp nets what

485
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: do you call those skimmers?

486
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 8: Skims?

487
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: And he would talk about looking out that window and

488
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: not being able to he'd go just fall asleep and

489
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: wake up and couldn't see you, and he'd have to

490
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: try to climb over that mountain oysters to come down

491
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: and find where you were at out on the deck

492
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: of that boat.

493
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 8: Because he'd be driving in that front. They had that

494
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 8: front steering wheel, and that's where he'd run when he'd

495
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 8: be running the dredges.

496
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: And you just wake up and there it was. I

497
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: wake up and there was being polo issters. And then

498
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: are you needing to are you then taking all the

499
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: ones that are still too small and pitching them or

500
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: by that point is everybody harvestable? Right now?

501
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: We at the transplanting era, we're taking everything and then

502
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: when we're gonna go back to refishing for sale, then

503
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: we will grade them. Okay, the little ones, we could

504
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: bring them to a different area to continue.

505
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: They're growing. Oh, so you'll put them in another spot.

506
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: Correct, it's forming, you know, you could form, you could

507
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: kind of mark out with poles. You know what you

508
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: have where?

509
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Yep?

510
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: And then you.

511
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's that? What's that industry like now? For

512
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: this area?

513
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: It's uh, the the orsters just don't really take all

514
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: that great in the wild. But with Storm Ida, it

515
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: turned everything around. It made the arster, the crabs, the

516
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: shrimp more abundant. Now it's starting to play back out.

517
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: How is that? Well, you see, an archster takes three

518
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: years the harvests. So after the storm, the storm stirred

519
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: everything up. But anything that is in an Orchester growing area,

520
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: anything that would have been like a little shell or

521
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: anything that an oorster would want to stick to that

522
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: it stuck. So here we are three years later. There

523
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: was abundance of oysters this year and great prices, but

524
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: the prices are all going now down now because because

525
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: the abundance of oysters.

526
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh I got you. So it slowed things down and

527
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: then the price is shot up. Like immediately after.

528
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: After the storm there was no oysters. So anybody had

529
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: a sack of orster, you could get like seventy five

530
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: bucks right when you're down back to the thirties.

531
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when it started to creep up, it was good.

532
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: And then you hit saturation. It's too much oyster.

533
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Now shrimp also and crabs, Like people couldn't shrimp.

534
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: The bullsom messed up. People couldn't go crabbing for a

535
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: year or so, you know. So everything was able to

536
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: to just flourish. And when the people started going back out,

537
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: man they would catch and shrimp. They were catching crabs.

538
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: The baby arsters were there, they just weren't markt saw

539
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: market saw as yet got it. So now they're market saws.

540
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: So now they're starting to flood the market with the oarsters,

541
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: with the aftermatter idel with the seafood.

542
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Yep, can you can you explain a little bit that

543
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: process you were telling me about that you would lease

544
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: oyster ground.

545
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: From the state. Yeah, oh it's from the stately state

546
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: least correct, I got it? Yeah, but uh yeah, just

547
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: like if you lease a piece of property anywhere, you

548
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: know you can pay your lease every year, and you know,

549
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: you just got to know what you have on your bottom,

550
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: you know, how.

551
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 7: Much would you lease like like, for instance, like there's

552
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 7: an old saying like in the ranch world, like you

553
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 7: have an acre of ground for every head of cat

554
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 7: all you have?

555
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: It was like three bucks an acre. You know, it

556
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: wasn't that bad three bucks an acre a year.

557
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 6: But how much could you like put like how many

558
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 6: oysters could you put in like an acres?

559
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: Oh you could have. I've seen myself work a month

560
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: and a half, two months on an acre of a

561
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: acre of ground that had an abundance of orish. But

562
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: didn't you have hundreds of acres? Though I had a

563
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: like eighteen hundred. My father and grandfather don't accumulated. Well,

564
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: how the hell, you worked that much ache. Well not

565
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: all of it was producing areas.

566
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh yess, so you got a lot of ground.

567
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: A lot of ground was like mud or currants were bad,

568
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: or too much fresh water.

569
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: You know.

570
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: We also have these diversions that they're putting and there's

571
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: they're pumping this fresh water into the marsh hoping to

572
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: create create new ground. But uh so those areas were

573
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: no more good reason being the fresh water and there

574
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: was man made They could flush fresh water when they

575
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: wanted to, but like the rainy seasons, the water would

576
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: come up. They wasn't running the fresh water, so orsters

577
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: would take again. But here we go next. It takes

578
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: three years to make uh market orster. So here we

579
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: are maybe two years down the line. Your oarsters are

580
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: starting to grow but two inches. But they have a

581
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: rainy season. They flushing the water to grow land and whatnot,

582
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: and they all see, you know, they all die with

583
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: the fresh water. Sounds too much selantic. We never really

584
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: had too much problem.

585
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 8: No, I'm talking like you get too big of a

586
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 8: change straight from fresh.

587
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, too much fresh water would kill these oysters.

588
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 1: So so that eventually made the business untenable.

589
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: For some areas. Yeah, you just have to rely on

590
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: a different area.

591
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

592
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you eventually got where you were done with

593
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: oysters pretty much. I went after Katrina went into the

594
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: oil field business, you know, and uh did well there

595
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: and uh ended up getting back out of it.

596
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 6: And uh.

597
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: My little brother had the orster leases and everything, and

598
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: he had been working everything during the that era, but

599
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: uh then he gave it all up too much problem

600
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: with thieving and not enough oysters and this and that,

601
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: not knowing that Ida would have replenished the leases.

602
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, I got it. Yeah, how much like

603
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: you've been at this so long vision oysteram correct shrimp

604
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: and and all that, and you you broke the chain. Sorry, Ronnie,

605
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: but you broke the chain.

606
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

607
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: What like in your guys recollection of growing up, of

608
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: spending time here in the deep family history down here,

609
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: how would you begin to express the cultural change that

610
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: happened with oil?

611
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad he didn't get into the orster business,

612
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, you know, I mean,

613
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: it's a good culture, but it's just not it's just

614
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: not there anymore, you know, I don't he wouldn't have

615
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: really made it because just with mud and nature. Just

616
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: the orsters were not producing and you just wasn't having

617
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: a reproduct, real good reproduction anymore.

618
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: Are those leases something you can sit on, so you

619
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: don't you know, you can just maintain the lease, not harvest.

620
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Wait for as long as you pay your lease. As

621
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: long as you pay it, that's all they were about it.

622
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: They don't care if you're fishing it or not.

623
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: That's right, okay, because they can't tell you, oh, you

624
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: got to fish this area. Well there's mud, there's no oysters.

625
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: What you want to do with it. But sometimes you

626
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: maintain areas to keep the other people. You want to

627
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: put borders on yourself. But we had a lot of

628
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: problems with uh, with thieving going on.

629
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the thing I wanted to I wanted

630
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: you guys to explain it's oyster poaching.

631
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: Well, if if like when we seeding and we piling

632
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: these oysters up, so you're going through all the work,

633
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: a little boat could come there and in fifteen minut

634
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: just hurry up and make a few dredges and load

635
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: their boat up and go somewhere else and cultivate and

636
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: call them you.

637
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 8: Know, and they're lean them up and they're doing it

638
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 8: at night A lot. These little boats are coming at night.

639
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: You was doing it?

640
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: What kind of dudes are doing it?

641
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 8: Boats in these little small Carolina skiffs were just kind

642
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 8: of sliding.

643
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: People that really don't have anything to lose.

644
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: You know.

645
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: But these guys will actually come like you have a

646
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: least area and it's worth someone's effort to come into

647
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: your least area.

648
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: And harvest. Yeah, in fifteen minutes, if they make a

649
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: couple of dredges and they make let's say ten sacks,

650
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: So ten sacks when the price is really hard. It

651
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: was getting anywhere from fifty to seventy bucks. They make

652
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: their night in I gotcha in fifteen men.

653
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: So they're just doing like like real quick, hitting small

654
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: chunks of small chunks of income, but like high high

655
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: money per hour of effort.

656
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, ten sacks at fifty all at fifty at all,

657
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: that's five hundred bucks, I see.

658
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you already had all the overhead to go

659
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: out there and get them and bring them.

660
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: And so it's more it's like a quick money thing. Quick.

661
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: It's not a three year play. And who they worried about?

662
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: No body? I got it, you know what?

663
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, if they get caught, sometimes they just

664
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: get a slap on the wrist.

665
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 6: You know.

666
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

667
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: When you you were saying that you uh, when you

668
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: when you sold your leases, like leases can move from

669
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: one individual to another. Correct, And you were saying you

670
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: kind of wish you would held on to like a

671
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: little bit, or tried to hold onto a little bit. Correct,

672
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: because now you you you want back in the game. Uh,

673
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: not really, oh, but you just kind of I really

674
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, I really, you know. I mean I've a

675
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: subleased some leases. Now you know, when I'm able to

676
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: get back out there, you know, oh, I got you

677
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: okay subleases. So and once I get out there, you know,

678
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I enjoyed for a little while and it's like I'm ready.

679
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: To go back home.

680
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Is it more work than catch a shrimp?

681
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: Uh? In some ways, yes, it's more physical.

682
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

683
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

684
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: And every archster just like the shrimps. You know, sometimes

685
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: you gotta pick all your big shrimp out, you know

686
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: where every archster has to pass through your hand and

687
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna grade it. You know, you gotta all those

688
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: mountains oysters, Well, those don't have to pass through your

689
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: hand until you refish them.

690
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: Ye.

691
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: When you're gonna go refishing, you put it on your

692
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: table and then you.

693
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: Gotta sort them all, shorting them.

694
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes they have a dead one on a live one.

695
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: You gotta knock the dead one off. You gotta clean

696
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: it up and put it in your pow. Then you

697
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: gotta sack them up. So then you gotta stack them.

698
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: Then you gotta load them on the conveyor. Then you

699
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: gotta put them in the truck. Then you gotta take

700
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: them out of the truck. You handle these arsters eight

701
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: ten times, you know. So it's it's a lot of

702
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: physical work. I mean, and how are you who are

703
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: you selling Most of those oysters to a lot of

704
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: these places are out of business now, but uh, it

705
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: was just some uh little shops that were we would

706
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: sell to and they would buy the orses, they would

707
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: shock them, they would pack them, and then they would

708
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: distribute with wholesale. Also, we had a retail business that

709
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: was out of this world.

710
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: You know.

711
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: We would just bring him in front of the house

712
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: and sell them off off the side of the road.

713
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: That was that sign you had.

714
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oysters, get you some get you some watch, and

715
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: you'd sell them shocked your whole We.

716
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Had a little shop that we would do some shucking. Yeah,

717
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: and we'd sell them by a sack.

718
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Ronni, did you get tangled up in that business when

719
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: you were young for a little.

720
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 8: While in high school? After school, I'd go chuck a

721
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 8: few sacks, you would.

722
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

723
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotten that special shucker with it.

724
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

725
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 8: Man, he made that, he made that bund yeah.

726
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 10: Uh.

727
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Then you when was the first time he started shrimping

728
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: for money, like commercial shrimping. Oh, about three years ago. Okay,

729
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: And you rigged out your oyster boat, correct. Ronnie was

730
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: explaining to me how that boat would be a little

731
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: bit different if it was fitted specifically for shrimp.

732
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't have had those tables and everything and

733
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: that big wench and stuff, you know. But like right now,

734
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: I could just move my cables and my nets out

735
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: the way, and I could throw my dredge off the

736
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: side and continue working oysters.

737
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 6: You know.

738
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, And then when you go out like that

739
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: for shrimp, how long do you normally go out for it?

740
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: Maybe two nights, three nights of the max, you know.

741
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you sleep on the boat in the daytime, yes, sir,

742
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: because it's a nock turn it's a it's a nocturnal.

743
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you're catching the daytime, you know, so I

744
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: mean sometimes you'll you gotta work with the shrimp. You know,

745
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: if it's given, then you fish. If it's not given,

746
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: once you see it slacks off, you might as well

747
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: slack off and go get you some rest. So then

748
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: you guys just anchor up wherever you're at, drop it.

749
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: You want to try and find some some little piece

750
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: of island to get behind, just in case, you know,

751
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: while you're sleeping you get a storm, because sometimes summer

752
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: storms will have fifty sixty mile our winds and come

753
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, yes, indeed, And then you cook up whatever,

754
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: cook up someone to catch from the night.

755
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 6: You know.

756
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: I'll get up and felay some fish and peel a

757
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: few shrimp and put some rice and beans on, and

758
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: got a meal meal like eat like a king's huh.

759
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: And then you like, then you guys go to bed

760
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: and get rolling again. Oh yeah, well yeah, and what's

761
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: the like layout for me? What the shrimp How the

762
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: shrimp market makes it good? You know, gets good times,

763
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: bad times, good times, bad times.

764
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: Well I really don't know it all that good, but

765
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's.

766
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I was reading we were all reading about this morning. Yeah,

767
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: I was reading about what you were telling me about,

768
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: right right, So like the tariffs that went in when

769
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Trump came in, well and it was your senator that

770
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: was I was reading about how your.

771
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: Senator you might know more about it than me.

772
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: Now, well talking about it too, Senator Kennedy. Senator came

773
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: who Ronnie was playing me a clip Senator Kennedy, who

774
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: was talking about the defund the police movement. He said,

775
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: next time you get in trouble, call cracket.

776
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 8: If you don't like cops just because they're cops, next

777
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 8: time you're in trouble.

778
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: But when Trump he was saying that when or he's

779
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, reading about it. Is when Trump started to

780
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: do tariffs on China, a senator from Louisiana came in

781
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: and said, please add crawfish and shrimp, oh yeah, to

782
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: the list, making the claim that a lot of stuff

783
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: was come from aquaculture facilities in China where they were

784
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: using antibiotics, antibiotics and shrimp some questionable practices injecting.

785
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that inject it's pretty scary.

786
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Injecting the silicon and then and then not having the

787
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: US not having proper regulation on what's coming in mislabeled seafood.

788
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: Seafood coming in mislabeled origin companies that was sort of

789
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: masquerade as regional companies with names that would be deceptive.

790
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: They were actually imported seafood, killing the killing the industry here.

791
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: And so your senator saying, man, I'd like to do

792
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: more protective tariffs to protect the local the American people. Yeah.

793
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: And then I was surprised to see in the same

794
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: little bit of casual reading we did this morning that

795
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: Louisiana is actually a major consumer of imported crawfish. Wow,

796
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: because people probably just see crawfish.

797
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: I think if you see the name, you just assume, yeah,

798
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: fish seafood.

799
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in Louisiana's crawfish. Who the hell was suspected?

800
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: Its overseas and a lot of people I guess they

801
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: go after the cheap the cheap price. Yep, you know

802
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: what I mean. But it don't help the American people,

803
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: you know.

804
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I would never think coming here that if I

805
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: was buying something in the store, I was buying something

806
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: from overseas, but just went I would just think I

807
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: was buying local naturally, right.

808
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: You don't think about it. Yeah, so what what kind

809
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: of price fluctuations you see? You told me something last

810
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: night about a price from forty years ago. Yeah, man,

811
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: forty years ago, not even adjusted for inflation. But forty

812
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: years ago you were getting more.

813
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: Than we are today for the same sage shrimp. It

814
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: was a sixty seventy shrimp. Right now we're getting like

815
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: thirty five cents. Forty cents. Forty years ago, we were

816
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: getting sixty five cents for that same sage shrimp. But

817
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: that's what's crazy is you're talking about wild caught, wild caught,

818
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: real good tasting shrimp, and and.

819
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: People not out of any kind of maliciousness. It's just

820
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: like people not understanding. No, people chasing like a little

821
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: bit of savings, restaurants chasing a little bit of savings

822
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: and buying.

823
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: Some farm raised bullshit from overseas. Yeah. Man, it's like

824
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: I think they blindfold of people. I mean, they just

825
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: the people don't maybe the people that just don't hear

826
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: and know any better or whatnot. I'm not quite sure.

827
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to say what what's the problem there,

828
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: because I've been in the supermarkets where the prices were

829
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: really high and it's not going to you, no, no, man,

830
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: no way, How can you give the fishermen a dollar?

831
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 3: And you go see you go see the same shrimp

832
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: in the market somewhere for maybe fourteen to fifteen dollars

833
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: and it looks rotten. Yeah, they charge you that much

834
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: to ring. You know how much it cost it's aged.

835
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: You don't know how much it.

836
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Costs to make that not so fresh. You can bring

837
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: you can bring.

838
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 8: Fresh shrimp to some areas like like further north that

839
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 8: that are far away and bringing fresh shrimp and they'll

840
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 8: be like, oh, that's that's good. It's wrong when it

841
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 8: was wrong. When it's like this is fresh, it's wrong.

842
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 8: It's rotten, like it's efficient. And on the display at

843
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 8: the store is like you could see like the heads

844
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: all black and starting to turn orange. It's it's rotten,

845
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 8: and they lose their The thing I found I'm just

846
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 8: a casual. I told you that's now I'm a big

847
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 8: time shrimper. I'm actually not very bad. I deal with

848
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 8: very small quantities of shrimp that we catch. But the

849
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: thing I found man is like a questionable shrimp. His

850
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 8: head is much more willing to detach from his body.

851
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 8: You ever notice that like a new one.

852
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: His head's on there pretty good, and you let him

853
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: sit around, his head gets to be where it's just

854
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: isn't He doesn't have a lot of fidelity to his body.

855
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: After a while, spots the fall away.

856
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Well, we were even doing spot prins last week and

857
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: you could tell day one the way they looked. And

858
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: then we were cooking up like our last meal for dinner.

859
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Just the look of them look different, different shade.

860
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their eyes, eyes are glowing when they're alive.

861
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: That goes away. You know the thing I found. Maybe

862
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: you guys can explain to it. Thing I found about

863
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: shrimp is it? Uh, if you pull him up from

864
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: deep water. So when we catch shrimp, we'll fishing three

865
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: hundred feet of water with pots. Okay, the shrimp pots

866
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: baited with fish heads. You don't think I've seen it. Yeah,

867
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: if you pull him up and just any kind of

868
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: minimal handling, you cannot put that thing back in the water.

869
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: Because you're bringing us from such a depth.

870
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Well, no, because like if you're pulling it up in

871
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: a shrimp squirts out at the surface. Yeah, you'll see

872
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: him kick down and I don't know if he's fine

873
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: or not, but he kicks down. I don't know if

874
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: he survives or not. But if you take that sucker

875
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: up on a boat.

876
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean and you dump them in a bucket, there

877
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: they're done.

878
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: You put them in a bucket and wait a minute,

879
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: and you put them back in the water. He is

880
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: deader like something that a fish would not phase the fish.

881
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: It seems they're just a sensitive correct, you know, sensitive creature.

882
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, here too, I mean you could they could

883
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: take so much. And then you know, especially these white shrimp,

884
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: even though they're big, they're really not all that a

885
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: durable you know, a brown ship shrimp they could have

886
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: survived a little drop of water. You know, they'll suck

887
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: in that little drop of water and still living. But

888
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: a white shrimp, man, it's just like I'm done.

889
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Yep. Is there a big price difference between what you

890
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: get for white shrimp and brown shrimp?

891
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: Well, the big difference there is the size is the

892
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: brown shrimp will not get big like a white shrimp.

893
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

894
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

895
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: And then when we were coming, I wish I knew

896
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: better where we were Chili. When you and me were

897
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: driving in, we got a little side tracks. We're trying

898
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: to find that pole boy place.

899
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: Order.

900
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: It was. The town started with an R. We were

901
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 6: in Racelan and that's where we got her.

902
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: First I got I thought, I hit the pole Boy Place,

903
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: and we want to buy a hospital. Then we thought

904
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: the poor Boy Place is in the hospital, and then

905
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: we eventually realized that somehow just clicked down the hospital.

906
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 6: And then to keep driving around the hospital.

907
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: Being like, I understand how there's a pole Boy place

908
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: in here to the cafeteria, I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Yeah,

909
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: it's like this right next to stand, just like the

910
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: ambulances and stuff. Yeah, see the pool we walk in.

911
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 6: She's like he is here for.

912
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I don't know how to explain it, Chili,

913
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: but I somehow clicked down the hospital, not the poor

914
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: Boy place, But we want about the pole Boy place where.

915
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I think this should have been our first sign that

916
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: the shrimp industry was in trouble because this guy lays

917
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: out mine, He lays out my bun. This is a

918
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: phenomenal poll boy. First I got a little nervous. Yeah,

919
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: he was very nervous about that. I come in and

920
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: I come in and there's a woman in front of me,

921
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: and she has a burger at the pole Boy place,

922
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: only whatever gets a burger, and that burger is.

923
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: A bun.

924
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: And a patty nothing, And I was like shit, and

925
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: we'd already ordered, and I'm kind of panicking, like I

926
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: don't want my pole Boy without shredded lettuce and tomato.

927
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 6: And he was very distraught about it the place.

928
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: But then we see in the background, we catch a

929
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: guy come through with a bunloaded with lettuce and that

930
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: breathed easy. Yeah. He takes fresh catfish, very fresh. We

931
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: saw him go. He went in the back room. It

932
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: looked like he flayed the damn fish. Yeah, comes back

933
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: a while later, holds the flave, treating his fingers.

934
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 6: And I'm like, they didn't freeze that.

935
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: No, no joke.

936
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: He goes in the room while later walks out with

937
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: a catfish flake like this, very impressed into that fire.

938
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: And then I made a bad call.

939
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I then he like very quickly lifted the basket and

940
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, Jill, you're gonna get some raw ass. I

941
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: was watching the wrong basket. He'll take anyway, The point

942
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: being I knew the shrimp business was in trouble. Yeah,

943
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: he lays my bun out and he was packing shrimp

944
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: into that bun, like when you're trying when you got

945
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: too much stuff in your duffel bag and you're trying

946
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: to get one more little bit of clothes in there

947
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: before you zip the shot. He was packing shrimp into

948
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: my bun with the palms of his hands pressing them

949
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: into it. They wouldn't even hold all the shrimp. When

950
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: I opened the wrapp rub, it was just shrimp. Yeah.

951
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 6: He spent like ten minutes just eating shrimp.

952
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: I know, And I thought I must have had one

953
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: hundred bucks worth of shrimp in my sandwich, because like

954
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: what you because grocery store prices right. But then we

955
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: left there and we're driving along, I guess the upper side,

956
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: what the hell it feels by you?

957
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: The foochs? Was that by the foosh?

958
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 8: So that same value you were driving along, the same

959
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 8: value that pumps out here that we the past.

960
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: We went out to go diving, shrimp boat after shrimp

961
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: boat after shrimp boat after shrimp boat with signs out

962
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: front selling shrimp three fifty pound four whatever the hell.

963
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's three fifty to go and rate.

964
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: And that's like, this is all shrimp is just selling,

965
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: selling to what you'd get, but selling it at a

966
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: quarter of the price you'd pay in a store when

967
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: you can't even get something that quality because these are

968
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: brand new, fresh caught shrimp r And is it so

969
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: that is that a function of what we're seeing. That's

970
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: a function of that the commercial market is just not present,

971
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and you're fishing for locals.

972
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 8: But what's what's the price sholl getting for like the

973
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 8: twenty sixteen twenties and the ten.

974
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: To fifteen for a dollar five and a sixteen to

975
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: twenty which would be the next size small?

976
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: Explain those terms that might fuse people.

977
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: Well, sixteen twenty, ten to fifteen to the pound, ten

978
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 3: to fifteen shrimp to the pound? Is that tails or heads?

979
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: And tail?

980
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: Heads and tail?

981
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: Okay?

982
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: So sixteen twenty ors sixteen twenty? I mean if you count,

983
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: if you take usually count them by threes. You take

984
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: three pounds and you dump them on your table, and

985
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 3: you come at threes yep, as one. Well, if you

986
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: count eighteen, what's a sixteen to twenty? If you count

987
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: nineteen sixteen twenty, God, it's just a way to caliact

988
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: insteatic doing just one pound? Look one pound and I

989
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: count fifteen shrimp? No, you do three pounds. That way,

990
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: it's more to.

991
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: Get a better average correct understood, And those little ones

992
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like as a consumer, you might

993
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: wreck popcorn shrimp correct, Yeah, yeah, you know if you

994
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: guys use that term now, Like yeah, the first the

995
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: first small shrimp we had was running like a sixty

996
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: seventy to the pound.

997
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: At sixty to seventy shrimp.

998
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: To that small those cents bitches.

999
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the last ones we caught. They had a

1000
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: lot more smaller ones that might have been eighty to

1001
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 3: one hundred to the pound.

1002
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: And those are worth if you take them, not if

1003
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: you go find a buyer for it, but you go

1004
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: to the shed. Yeah, like the shed, that's the commercial buyer,

1005
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: the shrimp shed. So you take it to enter it

1006
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: into the commercial market where it could get wherever distributed around.

1007
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: They're gonna pay you what for those little shrimp maybe

1008
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: thirty cents a pound a pound, yeah, not the sixty

1009
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: seventies right now, they might be around forty to forty five.

1010
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: And again, like I said, forty years ago, there was

1011
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: sixty five.

1012
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 8: Now that same shrimp. If you keep that same shrimp

1013
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 8: alive and sell it to the bait market, you get

1014
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 8: thirty cents apiece.

1015
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: For one nice shrimp for one when those little shrimp,

1016
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: but you got to keep it on the lost. Do

1017
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: you ever say, do you ever work in that trade?

1018
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: Though I've been, Uh, I came very close to it

1019
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: because you.

1020
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Got got all the air raiders and everything, and.

1021
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, not only that, you know, it's just

1022
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: a different market. You're not really if you load up

1023
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: with shrimp, well you just got live shrimp. You gotta

1024
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: go in with with just uh maybe a couple of

1025
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: thousand up to maybe six thousand shrimp where you know,

1026
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: you got to have a lot of live wells going

1027
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: on to keep these shrimp from dying.

1028
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 7: Wouldn't it Wouldn't that be extremely difficult though, because I

1029
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 7: think I don't know if it's you or you explaining

1030
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 7: yesterday that like when you catch shrimp in your net

1031
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 7: off your.

1032
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 8: Boat, a lot of them died.

1033
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: A lot of them died because they end up drowning

1034
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 6: it with when they're in the net.

1035
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 8: Talking about that you make so when you do live

1036
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 8: bait tarling, you tryal for very sharp drags. You don't

1037
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: make a long drag like we were doing to an

1038
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 8: hour drag because you're gonna kill a lot.

1039
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: Of your catch.

1040
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, once you pick up, you pick up, you dump

1041
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: your bag, you throw in, you deal with that. Then

1042
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: you heard me pick up again. You just continually pulling

1043
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: them in. You don't drag them in the net long

1044
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: at all. You're always dealing with whatever you're catching at

1045
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: the time. Just keep dealing with.

1046
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: And that's why you for saying he likes to do

1047
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: short pulls too, to keep him fresher longer. You know,

1048
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: look for you coast them, right, they look better because

1049
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: they're not being dragged in the water for that long

1050
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: after they're dead.

1051
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Right when you uh the porpoises, they'll tear that mesh

1052
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: getting at they want to get at the shrimp fish,

1053
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: or they want to get the fish.

1054
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: The fish that are trying to escape or getting stuck

1055
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: in the sod of your net. Sometimes you have a

1056
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: maybe a full five inch fish that will get stuck

1057
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: in the and they want to pull it out of

1058
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: your net. When they grabbing onto your net and they're

1059
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: gonna pull and tear your.

1060
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: Net, dude, you get what you wind up with quite

1061
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: the caravan man, you know, like you go on the

1062
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: back of this boat. Dude, it's like he's we started

1063
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: before it got We started before it got dark out.

1064
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: And you go on the back of that boat and

1065
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: it's like, first off, you get the sense of those

1066
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: birds have all done that before, you know it, multiple

1067
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: species of goals, pelicans, and they get in there and

1068
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: they could ride the uh they could ride the call it. Yeah,

1069
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: they can ride the draft of the boat over the back. Yeah.

1070
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: So but they got it, so dialed it. The boat's

1071
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: going in one direction and that bird is sitting in

1072
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: the draft of the boat cocked at a forty five

1073
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: degree angle to his line of travel and just moving

1074
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: along sideways. Man, do this all the time, dude, and

1075
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: coming down and grabbing stuff. And then in the water

1076
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: the porpoises porpoise.

1077
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1078
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: You see, if they would have had thirty forty boats,

1079
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 3: they would have been distributed. But they sense a boat,

1080
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: so they're all coming from all directions. Man. They want

1081
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: they want a free meal. Yeah.

1082
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: No, it's funny because you can tell everybody's done that before.

1083
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh yes, indeed they had one guy.

1084
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: Uh. In fact, that was right in the West Canal

1085
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: where we were. I seen him up against the bank

1086
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: and it was before the storm and he was hand

1087
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 3: feeding one it would come up and he'd hand feed

1088
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: it and hand feed it. And then I seen him.

1089
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, man, I've seen your feeding that porpoise. Yeah. Man,

1090
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: he would come all the top to me. But since

1091
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: the storm he hadn't seen him. So, I mean, it's

1092
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 3: what Yeah, yeah, since the storm he hadn't seen him anymore.

1093
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: But before the storm he used to hand feed that

1094
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: certain purpose at the same place all the time. You

1095
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: kidding me? Awesome? Yeah, straight, I mean I was. I

1096
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: was shrimping my buddy I had with me. I said, look,

1097
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: he's feeding that the purpose had their head up and

1098
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: just sitting there waiting with them out open. Yeah.

1099
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: It flipped me when the fish.

1100
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: It was there.

1101
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: And you like take you like take pictures of sunsets

1102
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: and stuff when you're out. Oh yeah, man, you never

1103
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: you never lost track of the beauty of it all.

1104
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: No, man, Nature's the thing of its own.

1105
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 10: Man.

1106
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: It's just so Yeah, it's nice.

1107
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: I could see getting like all after all your life,

1108
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: that you lose that doing it for work. No, man,

1109
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: you might after a while, just be ambivalent.

1110
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, man, Like I told you,

1111
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: the last three or four times I went shrimping, it

1112
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: causes me to go shrimping. It costs me the money

1113
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: bank to go shrimping and bait ice, I mean a

1114
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: few and ice. You know, it cost me a little

1115
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: bit to go shrimping. And but I enjoy you know,

1116
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: And like I said, the August season is when I

1117
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 3: really enjoy it. Those big shrimp they're red.

1118
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1119
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: They're jumping on the deck of the boat, on top

1120
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: of the net. And every time I see you, when

1121
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: I tell my my my crew members, look, look the

1122
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 3: on top, I'm just it's just so excited you. And

1123
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: uh they're jumping in front of that net just like popcorn. Man,

1124
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: they're running, They're jumping all over the place. When you're

1125
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: really fine them. It's pretty neat.

1126
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: To see, you know.

1127
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: It's just I enjoy it.

1128
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says.

1129
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 8: It's a famous phrase.

1130
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes, catch phrase.

1131
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: Catchphrase.

1132
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: Man, So you haven't gotten into have you gotten into

1133
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: spearfishing like your son here?

1134
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: Not as much?

1135
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: Man?

1136
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: He uh, he brought it to a different level.

1137
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1138
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: It was we started out just uh going dive for lobsters,

1139
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: you know, with the tank and haul and everything, you know,

1140
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: and and it come on, we're going to get lobs

1141
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 3: of Dad I don't want to shoot some fish man,

1142
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 3: so we he so we had to give up our

1143
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 3: my wife and I had to give up our lobster

1144
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: hunting so he can shoot him some little hogfish and

1145
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: then lo and behold, man, we was lost in one

1146
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: time and he's shooting some fish and I look in

1147
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: the distance and he got some little three foot sharks

1148
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: hitting the bloodline and coming back to hit it again.

1149
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: And they finding the trail to you know who. And

1150
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: then uh, when they when he sees the little sharks coming,

1151
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: they had like two or three of them. He's like,

1152
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 3: hm hmm, he sharks, you know it. And he goes

1153
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: and he's behind his mom. He grabs his mama and

1154
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: I could hear her screaming under the water. I said,

1155
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: I was like twelve years old Ronnie's original shark.

1156
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: Shark shield.

1157
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 3: I never thought you could scream under the water. But

1158
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: it's mama was screaming under the water. Man. And I'll

1159
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: looked off to the side and they had a big

1160
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 3: about eight nine foot, a big nurse just kind of

1161
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: sitting there.

1162
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1163
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: I'm glad they didn't see that one, you know, but uh,

1164
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: it's good man under the water is beautiful man. It's

1165
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: just a whole other world, you know. And then uh,

1166
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: like Ronnie, you know, Ronnie went for the with and

1167
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: then uh started the free diving.

1168
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 9: You know.

1169
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta start breathing up and learning how to

1170
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: free diving. I always got them big fans, and I'm

1171
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: not nowhere close to what they'd do, well y'all do

1172
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: you know? But I mean I enjoy you, you know,

1173
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: just go out there. And he likes to go to

1174
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: Bahamas and get some calk.

1175
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 6: You like that.

1176
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: That's fun, man, that's a little wrist diving too. Yeah,

1177
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: you're right, well it's about it's about nipple deep.

1178
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: We went a little bit further than nipple, you know,

1179
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: but it was about twenty five or sold. But I

1180
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: mean it's just nice to see. Also, you know, just

1181
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: a nature things. And I'm a crustacean fisherman, and so

1182
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: Conker right up.

1183
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Here, crustace your crustacean specially, yeah, man, Conker Lobster's like

1184
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: what he likes to do. Like when we go together

1185
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas. That's your idea vacation. You switch, you

1186
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: just switch crustaceans.

1187
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: Snails and crayfish.

1188
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 6: Man.

1189
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell me about that that ship man. I

1190
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: even made a note in my phone to ask you

1191
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: about the snails the begnas. Yeah, okay, okay, lay the

1192
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: snail situation out for me.

1193
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, snails are also in the salinity area, you know,

1194
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: so when we would transplant orses.

1195
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: Are you guys using the word s cargo, But it's

1196
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: because it's not a land begonna began, Yeah, be gonna.

1197
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how you spell it, or we just

1198
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: call it a big but uh you see, so we

1199
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: transplant these oarsters. Yeah, so these oorsteres have a scent.

1200
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: They have a smell of their origination, origional area. So

1201
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: when you put it in this new area, that's scent

1202
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: travels throughout the water. So drum fish, your snails, your trout,

1203
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: everything trout, they'll come to eat the little fish in

1204
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: the oysters, but the snails smell.

1205
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Them like they know something went on.

1206
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: Then the new food they smell us, so they come

1207
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: into the dinner table. So these snails are moving in.

1208
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: So whenever we bet arsters in the salinity area, we'll

1209
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: always check the edge. And I remember one time we

1210
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: checked the edge and we had like sixty five big snails.

1211
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: So we knew they were coming, so we put it

1212
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: down in September. But when the cool the winter comes,

1213
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: these snails go in the mud or they'll just hide out.

1214
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: So we knew it was gonna be safe that we

1215
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: had to fish them out before the water warmed up.

1216
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: So when so we are right for the winter. But

1217
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: when the water starts warming, we put out these snail traps,

1218
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: which would have been a we'd go cut like these

1219
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: little tall oak trees, about a two inch oak tree,

1220
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: and we'd uh nail some palmetta leaves on it, yeah,

1221
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: and the wrap the palmata leaves with some bailing wire.

1222
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: The hell's that? Yeah, and then we'd uh stick these poles.

1223
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: Thunder set again, so we'd.

1224
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 8: Uh sometimes a bamboo or an oak pole. I use

1225
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 8: the bamboos sometimes to No, bamboo is.

1226
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: Just the mark. But uh we would nail these palmetal

1227
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: leaves to the to the pole and then wrap them

1228
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: with biling wire and we'd push the pole in the

1229
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: mud on the edge of the reef where the palmetto

1230
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: would just start touching the mud. And these snails they

1231
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: want to hurry up and lay. Then after they lay

1232
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 3: is when they're dangerous because after they lay, they don't

1233
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: want to eat, so they hurry up and they laying there.

1234
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: They climbing these poles to lay their eggs.

1235
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: So they wanted to lay the egg on the palmetal.

1236
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: Correct. They want to climb to put their egg in

1237
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: the water, cool in the water to float around. So

1238
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna climb anything they can. They climb the crap cages, poles,

1239
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: anything you have, they're gonna climb.

1240
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 8: We could actually walk outside right now, probably catch a

1241
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 8: couple of off the pilings, like those oysters you saw

1242
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 8: in the pilings. If you go walk outside now, you're

1243
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 8: gonna see begos on a metium.

1244
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay eating the oysters.

1245
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll they'll drill drill a hole in them, either

1246
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: drill a hole in them or they'll they'll cluster up

1247
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: on one and suffocate it until it opens up and

1248
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 3: they'll get there drilled in there really and they actually

1249
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: spit their stomach bile in the oyster and it it

1250
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: dissolves this orster like a jelly and they'll just suck

1251
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 3: it out. Liberty hole.

1252
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 8: Many way to go, you say, one time, like you

1253
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 8: actually ate one that had been started to get drilled on.

1254
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: If you eat an orster that just started to get

1255
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: that stomach ball in it. Man, you just don't want

1256
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: to see another oyster for a while, you know. But

1257
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 3: it's nasty, man, that stuff. So we we've caught up

1258
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: to like thirty five five gall and thirty five five

1259
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: guy on buckets of snails in one day, just passing

1260
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: out traps. Yeah is that? Are you do that more

1261
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: to protect the oysters?

1262
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Are you doing it to eat the snails?

1263
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: Protect the oysters?

1264
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but then you're eating those snails too. Yeah.

1265
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Well, when we have that big of an amount, it's

1266
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: hard to get rid of them, you know without back

1267
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: then we didn't have Facebook and this and that. Right now,

1268
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 3: you could get rid of them quick. People really want them.

1269
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: The crab fishing will catch them and they'll put them up.

1270
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: They'll sell them like a forty fifty bucks for a

1271
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: bucket of snails.

1272
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Really oh yeah, man, And how do you guys fix those?

1273
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: Well? I used to have a pressure cooker that could

1274
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: hold a five gallon bucket of snails and you pressure

1275
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: them for like fifteen minutes. Now you could put them

1276
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: in the freezer and boil them for fifteen minutes. But

1277
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: if just a raw snail, you got to boil it

1278
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: for about an hour, whistle, and you got to boil

1279
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: the hell out of it.

1280
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 8: That crab ball season we put on the craw fish

1281
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 8: bowling that same seasoning, and you just take them out

1282
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 8: with a little small knife.

1283
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 3: Now they have a little area on the backside of

1284
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: it you gotta peel or cut off. We call it

1285
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: the back out a tobacco whatnot. It's just the area

1286
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: where they keep that boil at their stomach ass. It

1287
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: turns purple off to you boil it or whatnot. Yeah,

1288
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: you want to cut that off. You eat too much

1289
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: of that of you'll get see got it?

1290
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 9: Uh?

1291
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: Talk about your gumbo. You were talking about your gumbo

1292
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 3: rest last night. Oh man, I'm getting hume girl ready.

1293
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, talking about all these oysters I

1294
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 8: want to go.

1295
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: We're talking about oyster gumbo.

1296
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1297
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: Man, he told me that he don't put sausage in

1298
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: his gumbo because the minute you put sausage in your gumbo,

1299
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: it's sausage gumbo.

1300
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: Sausage gumbo. Man, I don't care what gun of gumbo

1301
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: it is. You put sausage in it, it's a sausage gumbo.

1302
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: And that's my philosophy.

1303
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: You know, man, Now I've cooked, so you make a

1304
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: huge quantity.

1305
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a certain saucee pod. If I'm gonna

1306
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: cook a gumbo, that's my pot. I put all my

1307
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: same ingredients quantities or whatnot, and I'll freeze it up, man,

1308
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: and I'll eat it for whenever I want some gumbo.

1309
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: It's ready to go.

1310
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: And you do a gallon of oysters.

1311
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: Gallon of oysters. I put the chicken towes, chicken legs maybe,

1312
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: and some chicken wings, gizzards and maybe it's salt pork

1313
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: and the and then a gallon of oysters. Man. I

1314
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: make a dark ru and season it up so good,

1315
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: and you eat it out in your boat if you

1316
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: need to. Oh, if I need to, yeah, I'll bring

1317
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: some on the boat and we'll go shrimping and all

1318
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 3: I'll bring me some gum bull and yeah.

1319
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Good life, man, good life, living the dream. I like

1320
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: to eat out and never got burned out on seafood.

1321
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: You're still oh no, man, I'd like to see the

1322
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: palla oyster shells from the oysters I eat in my life?

1323
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 8: How many how many ocees you eating? The oyster eating

1324
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 8: competition that you did.

1325
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't think I eat that, man, I'm sure I

1326
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: ate about eighty oorsters. Maybe, I don't know, maybe not

1327
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: your own. I know they chucking for you, but you

1328
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: know you had over when they were counting dozens and

1329
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: you did over a dozen dozen. Cool. I don't remember, man,

1330
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: you have a better memory than me.

1331
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 6: Man, But did you win? Oh no?

1332
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 8: Those professional eaters ridiculous amount.

1333
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: They would just just inhale like I was trying to

1334
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: pull it. Oh yeah, I don't know.

1335
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: They throw them back up.

1336
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 6: I really don't.

1337
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: It's like those professional eaters, those people you just qualified.

1338
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: If you throw it up, you are Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1339
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. Yeah, I tell you. I don't

1340
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: mean to judge, man, but I'm not into that hot

1341
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: dog eating contest.

1342
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: I'd rather enjoy, you know, enjoy yours.

1343
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: Where they get where they're like, they dunked that bun

1344
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: in water, so you can basically slurp the bun and

1345
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: they inhale those dogs. It's pretty nasty. Come on, man.

1346
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: Then there's the controversies where they would dip them, but

1347
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: they would leave some of them in there, so not

1348
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: having to con man, they take the cups away.

1349
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to dip a hot dog bun have

1350
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: it all come back out. I've never tried it. I'm

1351
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: just guessing it's hard to do it. But we tried

1352
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: to give it a little shake in there. We tried

1353
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: with the bagel chips. This trip worked that well, Oh

1354
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, it's not good. Ronnie and Greg, Can

1355
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: you guys give Chili some critiques on his first sper

1356
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: diving expedition. Chili explained to us, he's not a waterman.

1357
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: No, what'd you think of it? From South Dakota?

1358
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 6: What did I think of it?

1359
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: So?

1360
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: I think for us, we see what's going on, but

1361
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: for someone it's hard to explain everything that's going on

1362
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: down there.

1363
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I was gonna say, like it's hard to

1364
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 7: like rationalize like everything that's going on, Like it's weird.

1365
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 7: It was weird, like being on the surface and just

1366
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 7: kind of rolling with all the waves, being next to

1367
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 7: a rig and then like you get below the surface here.

1368
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: Talk about being in the boat first, because I kept

1369
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: telling you got to get in the water else you

1370
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on?

1371
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, See was yelling at me that I needed

1372
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 7: to get in the water to just just to be

1373
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 7: able to put it all into perspective, and uh, I

1374
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 7: was like, yeah, I'll go, I'll go, and I'll end

1375
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 7: up going and yeah, it's just it was. It was

1376
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 7: incredible trying to just like just get below the surface

1377
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 7: and just seeing like all the different types of fish

1378
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 7: which I don't know about, and uh, everything is pretty

1379
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 7: pretty calm, and it was. Yeah, it was like one

1380
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: of the I was telling see if it was one

1381
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 7: of the coolest natural things I've ever seen in my life,

1382
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 7: Like not man made or anything like that, but like

1383
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 7: just the natural beauty behind it all was pretty pretty incredible.

1384
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 7: And uh, I would definitely do it again. I don't

1385
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 7: know if I would go around and buy all the

1386
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 7: spearfish and stuff come down and like make trips down

1387
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 7: to the Louisiana or wherever else to go diving and snorkeling. Uh,

1388
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 7: but if I got extra gear on the boat, yes,

1389
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 7: if there's if there's some extra flippers kicking around.

1390
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: I'd start playing with that and you gotta fish.

1391
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: I got it.

1392
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1393
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 7: The old South Dakota washing rarity, not many people know

1394
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 7: about it, well, they.

1395
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 8: Do know about it, they don't they just don't know

1396
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 8: about the new name.

1397
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 6: So yeah, and I'm getting a barracuda, which is which

1398
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 6: is great.

1399
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna stuff the head.

1400
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna hear amount the amount the head. Yeah,

1401
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 7: that was cool too. And he's gonna have a big

1402
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 7: fish fry. Gonna have a big fish fry. Everybody's invited

1403
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 7: except for you, Greg. Uh uh no, Yeah, that was

1404
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,919
Speaker 7: it was just it was incredible.

1405
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1406
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 7: When I I remember, I was actually right by Dan.

1407
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 7: It was a byhind the camera right now. Uh, And

1408
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 7: I saw barracuda and I kind of like had a

1409
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 7: moment of like, oh ship, because I didn't you.

1410
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: Know what you were looking at. Just sort of instinctively

1411
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that that was a bar Yeah.

1412
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: It's like a fish that like most people be like,

1413
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: oh I recognize, I have to. That doesn't look friendly

1414
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: at all, like a little snag. Yes, the mouth is

1415
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: a little open.

1416
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to fuck with that thing.

1417
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 7: But uh yeah, So I saw it and then Dan

1418
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 7: was telling me. He's like, oh, yeah, like that's baracuda,

1419
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh, that's cool. And then I ended

1420
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 7: up swimming next to Steve and he's like, oh, we'll

1421
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 7: try to shoot a barracuda and he's like, shoot that

1422
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 7: one right there, and I was too far away.

1423
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 8: I was probably thirty feet away, way too far.

1424
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 6: Wait, I didn't know he had a rifle. Yeah yeah,

1425
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 6: fed out three hundred weather dead.

1426
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: But then I told I'll squeeze you when it's time

1427
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: to shoot.

1428
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and then we would get up there was cool.

1429
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: I was watching from you know, I don't know, thirty

1430
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: four feet give you a little.

1431
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 7: Goose when Yeah, He's like, I'll squeeze your rom when

1432
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 7: it's time to shoot, and I was probably like, I

1433
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 7: don't know, seven feet away from this thing and squeeze

1434
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 7: my arm, pulled the trigger and ended up getting.

1435
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 6: It, and uh yeah, I know. It was incredible though,

1436
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 6: Like I very very glad.

1437
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: I got on the in the water and we dripped

1438
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 4: it away too, So you'll manage to dispatch the South

1439
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: Dakota wahoo.

1440
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty big one like was going about it, and

1441
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: he came. He came swimming.

1442
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 6: Okay.

1443
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: I was about to say that looked like a Greg job.

1444
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: He didn't like my plan, so I take off and

1445
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: went out of the rig and I saw Steve chasing it,

1446
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: trying to wragule it.

1447
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: And it was very much alive. And then I just

1448
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: circle back. When you came after you, it was going No,

1449
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: he came right back, but I thought he was gonna

1450
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: get me. I thought he's gonna pale me with the shaft.

1451
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: He was all over you. They got crazy when you

1452
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: shoot him out of the water. Greg didn't like what

1453
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: was going on. It came. He thought he thought we

1454
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 1: were gonna get mold. This is probably reasonable.

1455
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: I gave it a few seconds and said to intervene

1456
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 2: with probably think I was playing cat and.

1457
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 8: Mouse with that big dogs messing and all that.

1458
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the end we.

1459
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: Got we've got amber we got amberjack, which we had

1460
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: in those delicious yep, the controversial amberjack.

1461
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: Meaning it's delicious amberjack.

1462
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's it's one of those many I

1463
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: keep saying, this is one of those many fish that

1464
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: people argue about. Yeah, there's certain fish that people don't

1465
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: argue about, like like if you go, I mean, there's

1466
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: certain fish is just universally accepted as good. Like no

1467
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: one wants to hear from someone who says that, why

1468
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: who's no good? Right, Sure there's.

1469
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: Someone, but it's just no one care Like snapper snappers.

1470
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Some some dude somewhere doesn't like it, but it's just

1471
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: accepted common carp Of course, you're gonna find a guy

1472
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: that says common carp were great. You know, you're gonna

1473
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: find a guy that says kyote meat is great. But

1474
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: it's just generally people aren't into common car. But it

1475
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: seems to me in my limited experience, the amber jack

1476
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: splits people right down the middle, supplits people right down

1477
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: the middle. There's a little bit of regionality to it.

1478
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: Well, there's even I feel like when I first came

1479
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: down here with some of the guys I was going with,

1480
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: it's the first fish I ever shot in Louisiana, And

1481
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: even they were like, eh, you know, maybe maybe I

1482
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: have a little bit. But they weren't like, oh good,

1483
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: you shot a shot a ambridge.

1484
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: Well my take on was, how bad could it be

1485
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: if it's so tightly regulated. Uh so this was like

1486
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: bad one a day, a short season. It can't be

1487
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: that bad.

1488
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: It was a little looser back then. I mean you're

1489
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 2: talking probably fourteen fifteen years ago. I shot it in March.

1490
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't even the same time of year.

1491
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm trying I'm trying to remember when they started

1492
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 8: bringing in the season on amberjack. Yeah, I say, I

1493
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 8: was trying like middle school when they started putting on

1494
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 8: so it's.

1495
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: A tight season.

1496
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: I also didn't realize how old I was getting, so

1497
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: I've been coming down here for a long time. And

1498
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: then you talked about and Ronnie's consumerly younger than I have.

1499
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's the regulations changed greatly with that fish

1500
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: over the year, so.

1501
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: It's a one a one month season one day. Yeah,

1502
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: it's a tight ass regulated fish, which says to me,

1503
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: someone wants it.

1504
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 8: But the commercial guy who got a long season, they could,

1505
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 8: Oh they do they get them like a winter, they

1506
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 8: long let them. No, they they bandit bandit fish them,

1507
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 8: kind of like snapper. They do what bandit fishing, big

1508
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 8: giant reel, put a big, big hand crank on it

1509
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 8: and they'll put like twenty to fifty hooks on it

1510
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 8: and up it down or with the amber jacks, sometimes

1511
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 8: they'll run a lot less hooks. But you never seem

1512
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 8: like a snapper boat. Like snaper boats fish with big

1513
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 8: bandit reels with and catch and god that mounts a snapper.

1514
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen it.

1515
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 4: It looks like a big black pulley on like a

1516
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: metal arm that they'll sticking a rod holder in the

1517
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 4: gunwale and they just crank it up.

1518
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: But it's it's got a big metal wheel on it,

1519
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: like it's got one main line with a bunch of

1520
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: droppers on it exactly bat them as it goes out. Yep. Yep.

1521
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: You'll have like an auto jig auto jigs or what.

1522
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: No, you just lay it on the bottom and then

1523
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 4: by the time on a good spot, by the time

1524
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: you get it all on the bottom, you bring it

1525
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 4: back up.

1526
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 3: Basically.

1527
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: God, it's all just circle hooks. Yep. Yeah. And that's

1528
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: how they catch them.

1529
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 8: That's how they fish them.

1530
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: Got amberjack, Yeah, got gray triggers yep. Also tightly regulated.

1531
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, very tightly regulated per day, and they all also

1532
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 8: have a very small season, like they close the same

1533
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 8: day as Amberjack.

1534
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay, kobea tighter and tighter all the time.

1535
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1536
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: That that was That was a killer for me, not

1537
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 4: one per person, but was hurting yesterday seeing all those

1538
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: Kobe and letting them swim away.

1539
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: There was a lot.

1540
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 8: First, my side job is commercial kobea and it's like

1541
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 8: you used to be able to go and you know,

1542
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 8: you get two per person and no boat limit. Now

1543
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 8: it's one per person to per vessel. Oh see, if

1544
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 8: you're out by yourself, it's one. Yeah, so if you

1545
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 8: buy yourself is on one.

1546
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: Yep. Mangrel snapper which still very you know, a very

1547
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: friendly regulatory structure.

1548
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 8: They haven't really changed much. They've been the same as

1549
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 8: long as I can remember.

1550
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 6: And no season on them.

1551
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: Something.

1552
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 8: I think it helps the mango snappers and they're tougher

1553
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 8: to catch on rod and reel. They're a lot smarter.

1554
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: Than the reds. They're slick, yeah, got it.

1555
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, And from what I heard back in the day too,

1556
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 4: is that you used to be the mangro What we

1557
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: like do with mangrove fishing now where we go up

1558
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 4: and chum a rig and then we'll let the you

1559
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 4: know kind of free line, let the hook float back

1560
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 4: with it. It used to be white trout and croakers

1561
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 4: like back this way before my time. But like, yeah,

1562
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 4: we used to fish on Grand on Grand, I would say, yeah,

1563
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: there used to be no mangroves do. It's all big croakers,

1564
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: like bull croakers, that big you know, like we're catching

1565
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 4: the little ones in the shrimp nets.

1566
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: They're like this big.

1567
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 4: So I heard I was never here for this because

1568
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 4: in the seventies eighties, but it's what it used to be.

1569
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: The mangrove fishery was a croaker fishery really yep. And

1570
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 4: as those croakers went down, the mangrels came up. Yeah

1571
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: you know cyclical, something else comes up and takes hereinks

1572
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 4: your spot and.

1573
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: We got red snapper yep, which went the other direction.

1574
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it fluctuates all the time.

1575
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1576
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: So we fished last year Friday Saturday, so the season

1577
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: was a certain window of time.

1578
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, just a weekend and you can only have two

1579
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 8: per person, and then as the season went one they

1580
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 8: opened it up to by the end of the season

1581
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 8: last year you could have four per person yep. Whereas

1582
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 8: I mean I can remember as a kid going out

1583
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 8: when I first started free dive and everything that it

1584
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 8: was like one week a year and you can only

1585
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 8: have two per person.

1586
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: And right now it's open all week.

1587
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 8: Now it's opening. It opened it up the I think

1588
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 8: in April they opened the mid April. They opened it

1589
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 8: this year and it's opened all week long and four person.

1590
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 6: Hmm, sixteen inch.

1591
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: It's a very uh in Louisiana. It's a very fluid

1592
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: regulatory structure, like they're fine tuning all the time.

1593
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: So one of the places you have to go to

1594
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: you really have to pay attention if you're coming from

1595
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: out of state. I'm just so used to a season

1596
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: and a size.

1597
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: That's you say, when I go to my mom's lake,

1598
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: Like when I go to Michigan fish my mom's lake.

1599
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: In my lifetime, there's been one change, yeah, and that

1600
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: was that pike went from twenty one to twenty four

1601
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: inches and bass went from twelve to fourteen. Other I

1602
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: can't think of a single change that's happened in fifty years.

1603
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: Well, even here the end season change, they'll be does

1604
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: he go throughout?

1605
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll close it on you last minute,

1606
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 8: or even like like the amber jack season just just

1607
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 8: popped up. What in April I think, or Scelda the text, Hey, look,

1608
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 8: they're giving us a springs amber jack season this year,

1609
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 8: which is Spring's my favorite time to shoot him because

1610
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 8: they come up higher in the water column. It's a

1611
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 8: little easier free dive for them versus like trying to

1612
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 8: shoot them in August because they give us an August season.

1613
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 8: Most most years like that's more I guaranteed season, but

1614
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 8: the spring season we hadn't had it in three years,

1615
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 8: and this was the first time in three years. Guy

1616
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 8: should go out again and in May and shoot them.

1617
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: What else did we get?

1618
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 8: Trying to think we had a dog snapper dog snapper

1619
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 8: scamps and they get a scamp sandwich.

1620
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't a monster one, but scamp, grooper, campgrouper.

1621
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: Yep, what else? That's about it?

1622
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: That's about it?

1623
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: Passed up.

1624
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: I mean there's all kinds of fish we didn't get.

1625
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean alma cot. Did we get alme CoA?

1626
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, they get some almal cozy.

1627
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: Special Almalco.

1628
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was great man, Thanks for having us down.

1629
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1630
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: You people bill watch all about it. Yeah, we'll be

1631
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: able to watch all about it.

1632
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 8: How do you like those amberjack amberjack fights?

1633
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: I could see getting drowned by one of those. I

1634
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: could see you got if you didn't do something right

1635
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: and got wrapped up, he's gonna drown you.

1636
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1637
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, to know where your knife is.

1638
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that line when he's going all crazy,

1639
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: If you got that line around your foot, he's gonna drown. No, man,

1640
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: you're not holding him back. He'd have no problem dragging you.

1641
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 8: Oh no, they're not even trying, and they're just working you.

1642
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: You cannot you'd get like you try to tighten down

1643
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: on him and you just going under water, Yeah, pulling

1644
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: you down as you go, and you got to realize

1645
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: you gotta let go to get a breath.

1646
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's all about finding that right amount to give

1647
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 8: him and attention to like yourself, but still not letting

1648
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 8: them get to the rig, because once they get to

1649
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 8: the rig, it's pretty much it becomes even game over.

1650
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: It becomes really tough to go retrieve them. Yeah, these

1651
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: fish like just people listening. These fish. If you shoot one,

1652
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: you can get over. And these guys will no joke,

1653
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 1: hand the lineup or hand the gun up to the

1654
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: boat and they tie this thing off to the cleat

1655
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: to try to stop it. Yeah, I mean tie it

1656
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: off to the cleat on the boat, and then you

1657
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: run the risk that he'll pop off because he's got

1658
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: something firm to pull against. But other than that, you're

1659
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: gonna lose it. Anyway.

1660
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 4: When we're riding real fishing forum on charters, it's we

1661
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 4: use big fifty with tigger fifty wides and they'll be

1662
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: Once you hook them up, you basically got to slam

1663
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: it in reverse and hold the hold the spool with

1664
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 4: your hands. And they're still screaming out like forty to

1665
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 4: fifty pounds of drag. Just to give some perspective, So

1666
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: use big uh what's the Jerry Brown braid? Like three

1667
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 4: hundred pound braid braid and you just basically lock it

1668
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: down and try to winch them in. But they're still

1669
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: screaming back towards that rig.

1670
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you try to back the boat away. Yeah, you

1671
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: have to. You have to use the boat.

1672
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, the biggest braid you could find with something like

1673
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 8: three hundred or up to five hundred pound test mind know,

1674
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 8: with a sixty knight circle hook with a live blue

1675
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 8: runner and you drop that down to the school and

1676
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 8: when you when you hit, when you feel meat it,

1677
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 8: you just throw it in four reverse the back of

1678
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 8: the school there. Because they go in the rig, they'll

1679
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 8: cut it instantly. I mean you saw like Greg had

1680
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 8: even was cutting his dynamo with his first one out

1681
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 8: on the strip.

1682
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 3: Rig donkeys, rig donkeys.

1683
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: Guy, they're strong.

1684
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 3: It's cool to see.

1685
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: Just it's like a pack of wild dogs coming in

1686
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: when you when you shoot a mangrove or something like that,

1687
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: and when Chili was fishing.

1688
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: Try it was the benefit of Chili's fishing. Yeah, Steve, Yeah,

1689
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: that's how we. Yeah, Chili dropped down with the rod,

1690
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: caught a snap or pulled it up, and they just

1691
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 1: come up with it like they're fish.

1692
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 8: I don't like to try and shoot deep on a

1693
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 8: free dive, like you ain't trying to shoot him because

1694
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 8: you know you got to. You're about to get your

1695
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 8: hands full, and uh, you definitely want to hurt them.

1696
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: You don't want to You don't want to just take

1697
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 8: any shot you could get on them because you want

1698
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 8: to give that that get that stunt on them, so

1699
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 8: where they're stunned and gives you a little time to

1700
01:20:58,840 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 8: get to the surface and prep yourself.

1701
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 6: They're not they're not dead.

1702
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: They're just charging their turbos.

1703
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: Greg says, you got to break their will, break their will.

1704
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes they break you because sometimes you lock down on

1705
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: them and.

1706
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: You're swimming up and you're trying to you know, you're

1707
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: trying to break their stread there. Then you look up

1708
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: and go, I'm deeper than I was when.

1709
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: I shot it.

1710
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: He says, when you hit it, if you if it

1711
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: stuns for a second, Yeah, then you got to hog

1712
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: it and it kind of He thinks it breaks their will.

1713
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 8: Well, I don't think it breaks.

1714
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: Then they then they puke out whatever they have in

1715
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: their stomachs.

1716
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 8: And the like when they flare the up, flare their

1717
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 8: gills up, and they'll charge up with auction. Like I said,

1718
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 8: like they're charging their turbos and then they're ready to

1719
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 8: kick your ass. He's like, I'm gonna vomit up my lunch,

1720
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 8: charge my turbos.

1721
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 6: Take it with me.

1722
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 8: When you see the tails start to flick like that,

1723
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 8: get ready because you bother go for a ride.

1724
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on, Yeah, I was legit a

1725
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: little bit, not not scares that the right word. But

1726
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: you just become aware of how you could do something wrong.

1727
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1728
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: If you're not being careful about your right well.

1729
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: You just have to be, especially if you're if you're

1730
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: shooting real like most of us do, and you start

1731
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: getting that line up. If you do not clean off

1732
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 2: to the boat and you get it up and they

1733
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 2: make another run where that line is, you just have

1734
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: to be very aware of what you're going.

1735
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 8: As you've seen they do, like you'll get you'll start

1736
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 8: gaining on them like, oh yeah, might I might have

1737
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 8: broke their wheel and they're like, oh no, no, no, no,

1738
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 8: we're making another run.

1739
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a fish, you know. Some fish, you

1740
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 3: do break them, they'll do wahoo.

1741
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: They'll do one or two maybe three runs, and then

1742
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 2: they'll turn side aways or run out of gas.

1743
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: Where.

1744
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the amberjack are just no nonstock resilient. Yeah yeah, well,

1745
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: yeah you did it.

1746
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 8: I lived, I lived, got you a big one, and

1747
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 8: then you got your good either.

1748
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I labeled that one Steve Steve's Special Amberjack,

1749
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: my little one.

1750
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1751
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: But man, yeah, I was. I thought it was pretty good.

1752
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: And I texted Yanni. He's he's got a strong North

1753
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: Carolina influence, married married into a North Carolina fishing family.

1754
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: I texted him and it said, he says, right off,

1755
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 1: do they eat those? That's crazy? I said, very popular,

1756
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: very popular, and then he followed up with congratulations, that's cool,

1757
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: so must be something. Well, Chief, thanks for coming on

1758
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: the show man, I appreciate it. You're the first oyster

1759
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: man we've ever had on all right, Yeah, and I

1760
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: hope they fix your prices up here, man or what oysterman?

1761
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: Man?

1762
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Man oysterman. What do you guys call it?

1763
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 6: Man?

1764
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: Ok? I hope they get your prices squared away. I

1765
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: think that consumers of it would be great if consumers

1766
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: of seafood uh factored in the if it costs them

1767
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 1: an extra buck or two, factored in the source of

1768
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: where they're getting there, the source of where they're getting

1769
01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:00,919
Speaker 1: their seafood, right to help sustain certain you know, sustained

1770
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,480
Speaker 1: certain industries and practices.

1771
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: Realize it's locally called and you know wild caught fish.

1772
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: Man's wrong.

1773
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Silicon free, silicon free, no added antibiotics. Still that's wrong,

1774
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: all right, all right, man, thanks for coming on the show.

1775
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thank you, thank you.

1776
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 6: Man.

1777
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 5: Row your boat.

1778
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 10: Gently down the stream, Oh your bod gently down stream?

1779
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 9: Man, That says an icey manro me an icey an icey.

1780
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 5: Life is not a dream? Row harboled.

1781
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 9: Gently down the street.

1782
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,480
Speaker 3: Roll your bod.

1783
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 9: Gently lead down the street. And I say, icey manly

1784
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 9: an icey an icey.

1785
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 5: Life is bo a dream? I listen, I say, I say,

1786
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 5: life is bod a dream? Rip yr pen.

1787
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 9: Gentlyad down the scene.

1788
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 2: Oh, rip yr pen.

1789
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 9: Gentlyad down the scene? An iceys and iceay manly an

1790
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 9: I say, an icey, here the lady scream, rip your pants, gent,

1791
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 9: lead down the scene. Rip your pants gently, lead down

1792
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 9: the scene.

1793
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 6: I say, and I say.

1794
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 8: Rollie, I say, I say.

1795
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 5: Here the lady. Stream stream stream