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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. So don't do what what's up? What's what? What? What? What?

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Speaker 1: What's what's anyway? This is a podcast, which you know

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Speaker 1: you you probably know this is a podcast unless you

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Speaker 1: are someone who was living in an isolated hunter gatherer

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Speaker 1: like the right the consistency or whatever was the right

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Speaker 1: and it pressed start on a podcast. And you're hearing

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Speaker 1: this as your first recorded voices that that that have

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Speaker 1: you've ever listened to. And if that's the case, stay

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Speaker 1: away from civilization. Just just keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Do not do not, do not go past the trees. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: turn around, go back. Congratulations on learning English. Yeah really

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Speaker 1: you're a quick learner. Love that for you. Just stop

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Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, do not Spotify is enticing, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but but there's nothing. There's nothing on here that's going

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Speaker 1: to make you happy. Ultimately, for the love of God's

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Speaker 1: stay off of Twitter. Please stay off of Twitter. Do

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Speaker 1: not open that app, um. But to everybody else, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to ever podcasts that we are recording right now.

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Speaker 1: My name is Cody and I've got a last name too,

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Speaker 1: has everybody else doing? Johnston? The name of you I've got,

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Speaker 1: I've got between two and three of them, depending on

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Speaker 1: how you what you consider a name. Um, give us

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Speaker 1: two to three of what you consider I don't want

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Speaker 1: to know what you mean. Yeah, Um, you know everyone

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Speaker 1: has three names, right, you got your middle name, you

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Speaker 1: get your first name back. Not everybody has a middle

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Speaker 1: name I do. Do you guys know what my middle

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Speaker 1: name is? Do you even know what my real name is?

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Speaker 1: My full name is Cataford Datavin and I love that

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Speaker 1: Kathleen based off of my first name, Kathleen. What do

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Speaker 1: you think my middle name is? Yes, he gets it, Kathleen,

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Speaker 1: Jessica bille Stole. So I have four names that all

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Speaker 1: belong exclusively to me. We're just really shooting the ship, um,

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Speaker 1: and we've got something fun to do today. Everybody listening

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Speaker 1: except for the first person that that Robert, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not that person. Except for that except for that person

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Speaker 1: um knows that we are reading Ben Shapiro's short stories

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Speaker 1: as a fun little treat, and uh, Cody was regaling

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Speaker 1: us with the first story, and we have gotten precisely

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Speaker 1: halfway through, um, this work of art written in point font. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a children's book. Not a lot of paragraphs on

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Speaker 1: the page. And still yet too many paragraphs and too

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Speaker 1: many Yeah really walks that line. Yeah, when we met

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Speaker 1: our hero, it's not good. It's not meant to mhm.

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Speaker 1: We found out on page nine that the guy's name

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Speaker 1: is Tommy, right thing, we found it as a trend

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Speaker 1: in Ben Shapiro. He doesn't he doesn't necessarily like you

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Speaker 1: knowing who the characters are or what their relationships are

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Speaker 1: to each other. He likes to keep that mystery. It's

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Speaker 1: like fog of war in an RTS, but for the

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty. It's bold storytelling. I'll call it.

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Speaker 1: it's like a mammoth tank. You don't get the mammoth

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Speaker 1: and boy did we. Uh. Tommy works on a farm

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Speaker 1: you need more air in your more air in the soil.

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Speaker 1: Nobody thought about this until Also remember in the span

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Speaker 1: and it worked great. You don't have to do this

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Speaker 1: sweaty ass fucking anyway. Whatever. Sorry, it's just very frustrating

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Speaker 1: that Ben Shapiro does not know the first thing about

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Speaker 1: growing stuff. You do not need to apologize for anything.

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Speaker 1: You are right, I validate you ever power. Yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: Well I would you can't you know alive? Anyway, let's continue. Well,

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Speaker 1: when last we met our heroes, and with Jim out

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Speaker 1: was how we concluded. It was big. It was a

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Speaker 1: big the big reveal the amount of control everything spun

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Speaker 1: out of control. Ben Shapiro never read his own book.

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Speaker 1: He didn't read it a second time the first time.

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Speaker 1: I guess I just need to I'm sure everybody's knows

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Speaker 1: I think are we talking like that you have any

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Speaker 1: moisture gets sucked out of your body instantly, and like

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Speaker 1: what are you anyway? Sorry again for anything? Ever? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had told m He'd told all right, the heat

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Speaker 1: It was burning. Oh dear, okay. I hollered at the

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Speaker 1: uh Jim to an answer, I hollered again. Silence from

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Speaker 1: It's not fair that he's been written by Ben Ship

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Speaker 1: you guys, Okay, okay, guys. I know what this reminds

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Speaker 1: time on the am I Am I the Asshole Reddit yah,

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Speaker 1: and this sounds like and in my the asshole thing

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Speaker 1: I said to him, you've been I mean, but also

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Speaker 1: dislike it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I would. I would

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00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: be more forgiving of it if he was at least

424
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: like competently doing that. Like, but there's no you know,

425
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: you've got two options if you're going to try to

426
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: write like romance um. One of them is to be

427
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: very descriptive of it um if that's the kind of

428
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: thing your story is. And another is to be circumspect

429
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: but clear to where like, you know, there's building tension

430
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: and then you kind of have the character acknowledge and

431
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: then we like we we you know, we we cheated

432
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: on it or whatever. Like you you can kind of

433
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: very bluntly and briefly go over what happened if you

434
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be like writing it out explicitly but

435
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: been somehow like threads the needle of doing neither. Um,

436
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: that's good, it's good. Yeah, we like it. Yeah, um,

437
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 1: it's also we don't need to get into this too much.

438
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: But there's like a trend I've noticed on like TikTok

439
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: about about Katie, what you're talking about, and just like

440
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: these like you know, guys like doing the fake crying

441
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: and like these fake stories of like oh you were

442
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: abused or like this, and like I'm helping you like

443
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: this sort of like hero fantasy. It's really I have

444
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: not seen it, but I don't want it. You don't,

445
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: and now I probably will because my fucking phone is

446
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: almost certainly listening. I bet within the next week I'll

447
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: see some of those videos somewhere. Any who. Any who,

448
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: she looked so beautiful with the tears in her eyes

449
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: dripping down her face. I reached over and wiped them

450
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: off with my big meaty hand. Wait is that a

451
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: second one? No? No, no, I'm just catching us up

452
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: just like. Uh, I wish he did it, just like

453
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: literally forbade him a second time. Do you remember when

454
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: I first brought you here, I asked her. Of course,

455
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: that's when I first met Jimmy. I stumbled for the

456
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: right words. You know, I had a crush on you.

457
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Do you remember we almost a frightened look across her face. No,

458
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: she finally answered, I liked you a lot, Tommy, but

459
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: never like that. That struck me hard. Sure you did,

460
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: I said, if Jimmy hadn't been home, I locked you

461
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: a lot, Tommy, she said again, but I lacked a

462
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: lot of guys. It was different with Jimmy. I put

463
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: my hand out. Oh not your big meaty hand, all right.

464
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I put my hand out and touched her arm. It

465
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense, but she pulled away. I hate

466
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: him so much, Okay, I think he is trying to

467
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: do the unreliable narrator, you know, in his head. They

468
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: were right on the edge of doing things, and she

469
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, no, I was never interested in you. But

470
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: again he's bad at it. He's doing like I didn't

471
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: think that. Like this scene makes sense to me. I

472
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: like reading it, like yeah, that she wasn't into you man,

473
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: she liked your brother and and the end. Uh. But

474
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I put my not big or meaty hand out and

475
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: touched her her wayfish thin, little dainty arm serious. No no, no,

476
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: no no, it just says I put my hand out

477
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: and touched her arm. Okay, that's fine. Whatever, you don't

478
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: always be purple. Good for you. It didn't make any sense,

479
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: but she pulled away. What it seems like it didn't

480
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: make sense based on the things that she said, or

481
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense, and she pulled away like

482
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: her pulling away is part of the thing that doesn't

483
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: make ends. So the word but doesn't work there, nippicky

484
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what. I got up and walked out of

485
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: the house. Then I ran a new section. This is okay.

486
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: I found myself in the woods. It was dark all right,

487
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: but I okay, it was dark all right, but I've

488
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: been in those woods many times, so I could see

489
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: what about to find out he's part cat. That is

490
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: not how light works like night division alright, Like like

491
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: it was dark alright, but I've been in those woods

492
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: many times, so I could like navigate, like I knew

493
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: where I was going. Yeah, yeah, so I knew where

494
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: I was going. It was I could go through. Yeah,

495
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: it's dark, but I know this that Yeah, the next

496
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: line j K ran into tree and just kidding a

497
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: fucking eight ships real bad, my, my big meaty pinky toe.

498
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: It was dark, all right, but I've been in those

499
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: woods many times, so I could see. I didn't know

500
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: what I was looking for. Maybe I just needed to

501
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: clear my head, that's obviously what is the situation. The

502
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: woods had grown over since I was a kid, so

503
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: you're not taking care of the woods around your farm,

504
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: all right. And I stumbled on some tree roots, scraped

505
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: up my arms pretty bad, cursed my own stupidity. So

506
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: there's not a j K. But yeah, but yeah, literally

507
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: he did fucking follow his stupid face or his arms.

508
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: He scraped up his arms pretty bad, cursed his own stupidity.

509
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: How could I have said that to m? Humiliated myself

510
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: like that? Um, I'm sorry, center, Yeah, humiliated yourself. Okay,

511
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: But more than that, you made a woman on com trible.

512
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: You crossed multiple boundaries. Um, you touched her face with

513
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: your big meaty hands and you and you violated her

514
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: personal space. Let's you noticed her robe was open and

515
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: you can see her breathing. Don't feel embarrassed, feel ashamed

516
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: any who. All right, here's where it gets real salty.

517
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: And how could she say that to me? She knew

518
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: she was lying to me and to her side. I

519
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: remembered holding her in my arms, and I remember Jimmy's

520
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: smiling smart face. Smiling smart face. I think Ben is Katie,

521
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do too, But I think this character

522
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: has a little bit of that butter and her eyes

523
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: turning up to meet his. The cold water rushing through

524
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: my boots brought me back to reality. What okay, oh okay,

525
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I'd walked right into the creek and my feet were soaked.

526
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: I'd be slashing my way back home to I thought.

527
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Then I saw it glinting there beneath the rock. It

528
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: was like the movies. A beam of moonlight was hitting

529
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: it just right my hunting knife. I took it. What

530
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: how many years ago? How many year doesn't seem like

531
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: it would still be well? I mean, yeah, even if

532
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it's stainless, it's probably not going to be still shining.

533
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: After again, he couldn't have just walked and found like

534
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: in the direction of where he threw it. It doesn't

535
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: seem like he ever looked for it. We never hear

536
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: about him looking for it because he was one of

537
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: those you know how young boys when their brother gets

538
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: a watch and they get a huge knife, they're always

539
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: bummed because all young boys love watches, which I had that. Yeah,

540
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: is that a stupid knife? God? Um, I have to

541
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Then I saw it glinting there beneath the rock. If

542
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: it was beneath the rock, then you can't see it.

543
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Then it's beneath the rock. Right, Am I reading that correctly? Yeah?

544
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see the words. But then

545
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: I saw it glinting there beneath a rock. You're right,

546
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: it's not logical. I get the implication that maybe it's

547
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: peeking out, but you could say peeking out the rock

548
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: or like wedge to the side of the rock. I get,

549
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: like rights, Like so much of Ben's writing is like

550
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: they get what I mean right right, Like yeah, it's

551
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: good enough, sure, sure, but like whatever, only pussies that

552
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: at their work. Yeah, in agreement about that. Why would

553
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: you read something a second time or a first time? Yeah?

554
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: The first time anyone reads your work should be someone

555
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: who's not you reading it. Would you self publish it

556
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. So we got we got about three

557
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: and a half four more pages of this, I would say, masterpiece.

558
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a short break to let the

559
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: people know that the whatever, the product or services that

560
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: you're about to hear about, supports this story. UM and

561
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Ben's writing UM unquote. Everybody on that I don't know,

562
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: that's what you must say. They love it everything. It

563
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: wasn't two days before Jimmy. It wasn't two days before

564
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy came running into How long wasn't dinner time? How

565
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: long was it? It was, Well, it wasn't two days.

566
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't it was one or three, or four

567
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: or five or six or seven or eight or nine.

568
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: But it wasn't any number of days other than two. Okay,

569
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't two days before Jimmy came running into the

570
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: house around dinner time. Everything had been awkward in the

571
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: house between me and M or M and me, but

572
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Jimmy had noticed anything. Now he came

573
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: rushing into the kitchen, his hands were covered in grease.

574
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: It works, he whispered, it works. It's exclamation point in

575
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: the next part. Um, so he whispered, and then shouted,

576
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. How is that it works? He whispered,

577
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah. Uh. He reached out and grabbed him

578
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: and whirled her around like a pin wheel. Her skirt

579
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: flew up a little and I looked away. Yeah, good guy, ben. Uh.

580
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: He looked at me too, and his eyes were bright. Tommy,

581
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: he said, I want to show you this. M looked confused,

582
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: but Jimmy grabbed me by the arm. Come on, kid,

583
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: this is our fortune. Why is 'm confused? She knows

584
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: she's been He's been working on this thing for a

585
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: long time. Uh. He led me to the barn. He

586
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: stood next to the machine. Now, Tommy, I want you

587
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: to look really closely watch what I do. We're gonna

588
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: have to sell these up and down the country, and

589
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need your help. You can be my sales deputy.

590
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: People like you and around here remember when you were

591
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns? Oh, people like you. People like you and

592
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: people around here, remember when you were scoring touchdowns. He

593
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: leaned over and pushed a red button. You hit this button,

594
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: he said, and that gets the motor going. Now look underneath.

595
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: I squatted and I saw a whole new fangled blade

596
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: system underneath the plow. It was jumping and shaking in

597
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: a queer way. What the fuck? Then, okay you can

598
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: just say, odd man, Uh, that aerates the soil better,

599
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean everything with this tractor is nonsense.

600
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: But whatever that areates the soil better. You don't have

601
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: to know how it works. You just have to know

602
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: that it does. That's convenient. He popped over to do

603
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: not know how it works? Well, you don't need to know,

604
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, I don't think about it. Um, ignore it,

605
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: close your eyes. Uh, just go to sleep. Just got asleep.

606
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: He hopped over to me like a jack rabbit and

607
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: grabbed me by the arms. Keeps doing that, kiddo. We're

608
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: all set from here to the flood. You're a junior

609
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: Floods Capitalized, you're a junior partner in the firm, and

610
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: we're headed right to the top. His smile was infectious.

611
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I could feel myself smiling too. And then the knife

612
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: was up under his ribs. He looked so confused. For

613
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: a minute. I was a minute I was confused too.

614
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Then the blood started to gurgle from his mouth and

615
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: I pushed him back, and the machine was still bucking

616
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: and shaking, and his legs went out from under him,

617
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: and before he could say or do anything, my foot

618
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: came out from under me and kicked him in the ribs,

619
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: and he grunted, and he rolled under that machine he loved,

620
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: and the ground was covered with his blood. That was

621
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: one sentence. By the way, Wow, he was a reliable narrator,

622
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: so he didn't he he throws, he stabs his brother,

623
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and his brother gets eaten by the tractor. He rolled

624
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: onto that machine. Everything else it's not as incompetent as

625
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: other passages in the story of Ben. It's not good,

626
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: no good. A lot of commas, but a lot a

627
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of commas. What are you gonna do? Uh? Spans

628
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: two pages. He didn't say anything, He didn't scream, but

629
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: m did when I came in the house covered with

630
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: his blood new section. After the funeral, the police came

631
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: to see me, but there was nothing to say about it.

632
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: He'd been mashed up by that machine, so there was

633
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: no evidence. They just said it was tough for me.

634
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: There was no evidence. Okay, no, nothing to be done.

635
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: It's good. It's the classic accident. Yeah, classic, like eaten

636
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: by your own tractor that you were building. Accident happens

637
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: to the worst of us Man in the Moon. Uh,

638
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: that was a reference to the R. E. M Song

639
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: about what's his name? The guy the comedian? Right? Um,

640
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: uh it's a Wasn't there like a tractor accident in

641
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: the movie called the Man in the Moon? Then? Yeah?

642
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: But was the man from the nineties about and man?

643
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, they're different things. Where you are

644
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: referring to the Andy Kaufman uh song by R. E. M. Yes, yes,

645
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: do you believe? Yeah, yeah, you are correct my references.

646
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Nobody listening will know what I'm referring to. And I

647
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: don't even prove you wrong. It actually happens. Um, yeah,

648
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: proved me wrong. So um. The point is there was

649
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: no evidence. Uh. They just said it was tough for

650
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: me to go through this now that I was responsible

651
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: for Mom and M and asked what I would do,

652
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: and I told them that it was okay. I had

653
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: a way to take care of things all right. That afternoon,

654
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: I drove over to the big agricultural machinery store to

655
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: see the boss, Mr. Ebson. I told him about our

656
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: new specially aerating mechanical plow and showed him some of

657
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy's papers from his desk. His eyes lit up. He

658
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: asked if he could come out and see it. I

659
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: told him I'd give him a ride. When we got

660
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: to the barn, I didn't even hesitate. I murdered him right. Uh.

661
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: It was quiet in there, which I wasn't used to.

662
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: But I knew that my fortune was lying inside, and

663
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I knew that all I needed to do was to

664
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: hit the little red button. Now watch, if you please, sir,

665
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Mr Ebson, I said, in my best fancy voice, you

666
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: are about to see the machine that will revolutionize American agriculture.

667
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: And I hit the button. So he got it back

668
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: like the cops presumably they took it away when he

669
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: tore his brother apart, right, Like I mentioned that, that

670
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: would be just like they left it there, just left it.

671
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: There's no evidence, cleaned the blood off. Yeah, and then

672
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: right for the uh huh, Like, isn't he like a

673
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: guy Like yeah, we need the sucking cops because they

674
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: like self murders and stuff. But like they just like, well,

675
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: we're not gonna take your blood machine filled with your

676
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: brother's body, you know, Well, we'll leave that with you

677
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: to clean up. It seems like you've got a good

678
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: handle on it by now. Good luck very funny. Care

679
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: nice farm you got here? Ah, So he hit the

680
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: button and nothing happened. I could feel the sweat start

681
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: up under my collar. Probably should have tested this out

682
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: before you brought him over. Never done it before. Yeah,

683
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: it's the first time his brother died in the funeral, Like,

684
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: he's going around pitching this device and he never once

685
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: thinks I should figure out how to work it before

686
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: some one's interested. Just not a test run, I'm okaying ahead. Yeah,

687
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: well you know he's not a he's not a smart man.

688
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: I got down on my hands and knees and I

689
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: crawled underneath the machine that had killed my brother. You

690
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: killed your brother that Uh it was still rust colored

691
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: from his blood. I hadn't cleaned it off yet. What

692
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: he left the blood on there to show it to

693
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: a guy? He man? So you you're trying to sell

694
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: this product to like presumably some significant like investor corporation

695
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you don't even clean your brother's corpse

696
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: off of it, Like are there like bits of him

697
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: still there or is it just his blood? Like? Good God,

698
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: keep going, keep going. I don't know what Jimmy had

699
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: done under there, but it didn't look like any normal plow.

700
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: It was totally changed. So I hit it a couple

701
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: of times with a wrench, then got out and smiled.

702
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Let me I again, Mr Ebson, I said, I hit

703
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: the button again, and again nothing happened. Mr Ebson looked

704
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: at me and shrugged. Well, he said, when you get

705
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: it working again, come and let me know. I think

706
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: we can do business together. How do you know that?

707
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: How do you know that? He just showed you a

708
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: broken tractor he described a miracle machine and it didn't work.

709
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: And you're like, I can't wait to see it. You're

710
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: very excited for us to work together. I respect the

711
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: way you didn't clean your brother's shattered corpse off of

712
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: it before showing it to be all right. He walked

713
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: towards the door after saying that they're going to be

714
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: in business together, and sorry about your brother. He was

715
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: a genius with those things. How do you know he

716
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: never made one? His first one killed him. We have

717
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: no we are He never explains that he's actually made

718
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: them like it doesn't. He doesn't establish that his brother's

719
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: operating like a tractor repair of business or something which

720
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: might make sense. And again, if Ben was a good writer,

721
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: he would be like breaking the DRM on a bunch

722
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: of John Deere tractors, and that would lead him to

723
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: a breakthrough that led him to make a better tractor,

724
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: and like everyone would know he was attractor genius, so

725
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: they'd be excited to anyway about this genius tractor man

726
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: is that he built one that doesn't work that killed him.

727
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: That's literally all that's the genius. Uh. Then he was gone.

728
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: I walked back to the house. It was empty except

729
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: for Mom and was gone to too. What. Yeah, that's

730
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: a weird way to phrase that. It was empty except

731
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: for Mom and was gone too. In addition to who,

732
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: I guess the guy that left Tommy, I guess Jimmy

733
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, the guy that was just there that left,

734
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's stupid. They didn't go to the

735
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: house and was gone too. I guess. Uh, like it

736
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: would have been so much more powerful, even like powerful

737
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: really putting hard quotes around that, but like it was

738
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: empty except for Mom. M was gone. That's it period anyway.

739
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, it wasn't fair. Yeah,

740
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: we're here here, we are none of it. I just

741
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: didn't have the breaks Jimmy had. I wasn't born smart

742
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: like him. I didn't get the education. I didn't get

743
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: the luck or the girl. So now I'm sitting here

744
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: messing with this damn contraption and I've got Jimmy's rusty

745
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: blood on my hands, and Mom's in the house waiting

746
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: for me, and the house is awful quiet. That's the

747
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: end of it. Oh God, Like what a sort of

748
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: embarrassing Like look into what he thinks about, like what

749
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: people think about fairness and like what yes, like anybody

750
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: who thinks like he was, like evokes the idea of

751
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: something being fair to be like this like spiteful murderer

752
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: or something. What it like? I mean, it's like a

753
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: commentary of like how people are like that, lazy people

754
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: are like so and so who doesn't want to work

755
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: or you know, like yeah, but like he did work

756
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: and he didn't work right, Like nothing makes sense, nothing

757
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: is justified, like this is anyway, It's a really bad story,

758
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: really bad as a parable, it's bad. Um. I'm sorry,

759
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: everybody listening. I You're welcome everyone listening. And Mary, Merry Christmas.

760
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Something our Christmas episode but it's probably not. But if

761
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: it is, there's your present. This really good story about

762
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: a fucking murderer, um for no reason, who found a

763
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: saw who like saw through a rock for his knife

764
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: that he never looked for and his genius brother with

765
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: his tractor that killed him. And I fair with you

766
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: guys reading terrible, it's so bad, but this was fun.

767
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I'd also like, so like, we're we'll be back, We'll

768
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: be back with more. Um uh here's uh something I

769
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: think is just funny about this book. Um it's called

770
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: What's Fair? Colon and Other short Stories? Um, and I

771
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: think a much better title would be What's Fair? Colon

772
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: and two Other short Stories? There are only two others left,

773
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: one third of the short stories in this book, which

774
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: only has three stories, three short stories, one of it

775
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: which is titled What's Fair. It's fair? So weird to

776
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: release a book that's just three of your short stories? Yeah,

777
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: it is right, you know what, keep going edit these,

778
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: edit these all you're thinking of the other ones? Right? Five?

779
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: Five would be fine? Yeah. Also think about maybe what

780
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Like, what are you saying in this

781
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: first book because the story because it's it's not people,

782
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: And then ask yourself if you are actually saying I'm

783
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: sure the message is supposed to be that, Like, different

784
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: people have natural talents that make them better than others,

785
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: and so if you're not as good as someone else,

786
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: you should just let them run your life and take

787
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: care of you and be grateful. Like I think that's

788
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: the message that he should have just been happy that

789
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: his brother was better than him and let him run things. Yeah,

790
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: I didn't have the I didn't have a break Jimmy had.

791
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't born smart like him. I didn't get the education.

792
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: I didn't get the luck or the girl. He's feeling

793
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: resentful and he shouldn't. He should be grateful, and yeah,

794
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: let Jimmy run Tommy's life. Do I get those names right?

795
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter? Um. The closest thing to a message I

796
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: can determine is like, yeah, don't don't be mad that

797
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: other people have more than you. Otherwise you'll murder them

798
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: and you you won't be able to get the tractor working.

799
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: I guess I don't. There's not a message, is what

800
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not clear. Whatever is not clear. If you,

801
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: if you really want to be a writer, maybe think

802
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: what am I do I have anything that I want

803
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: to say? Am I just kind of crudely redoing the

804
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Tale of Cain and Enable, but without like any actual

805
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: message at all. Ask yourself if this is something you

806
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: even want to do, you know, because it seems like

807
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: maybe you don't rush through it really fast. You know,

808
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: you blaze through the parts where you might have fun,

809
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: developing some richness and some depth, but you don't. And

810
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make you feel bad, but I

811
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: think that maybe this just isn't something you enjoy, right, Yeah,

812
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: Like sit with this, like sit with your characters, like

813
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: let scenes breathe, like get in depth, like all the

814
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: all the off the cuff examples and suggestions we've made

815
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: through these two episodes or other ones that you might

816
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: have while reading your story second time. My primary feedback

817
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: would be, right, a short story, m hmm, yeah, if

818
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: you if you do think that, like there's a if

819
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: you want the version of this that's actually a story

820
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: with characters. Um, I don't know, uh read the Bible.

821
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like it literally is like he's

822
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: just trying to do that, but really bad job. Also

823
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: just one big am I the asshole thread? Yeah An

824
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: killed my brother with a and then responding like didn't

825
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: you hear? Like in the comments to people like, sorry, dude,

826
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: you're the asshole. Like, right, I tell you that she

827
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: touched me. It's good. Oh yeah, So Tommy, who's listening

828
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: to this? Um, Tommy, meet a second woman? Yeah, likewhere

829
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: there are other there's there's a second woman out there

830
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: that you could meet and maybe she'll like you and

831
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you won't necessarily find her like so beautiful because she

832
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: is crying and needs your comfort. Maybe not, maybe not,

833
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: who knows. Um. Also, I can't I can't stop thinking

834
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: about how the house is on fire. But really it's

835
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: just a sheet in a room. Yeah, we never got

836
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: an explanation for that kind of We don't know why

837
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: that was on she was just playing with matches the

838
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: mom the mom fire. We don't need no while the

839
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: let that mother burn. That feels like a good place

840
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: to wrap up. We gotta record our whole other book. Boys,

841
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: time quick, a little short story. Ben likes to call

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Speaker 1: from the pit, which I'm just gonna say is where

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Speaker 1: we've already been. Yeah, this feels this feels like we've

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Speaker 1: been drifting pit word for a while, But we'll be

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Speaker 1: back until then, go with Christ and indeed use his

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Speaker 1: connections to get some real quality blow because he Jesus

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Speaker 1: always knows if anything has been cut with fentel. That's

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Speaker 1: that's in the Bible, that's in the Bible, makes water

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Speaker 1: out of wine, and he knows if somebody's been cutting

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Speaker 1: your blow with fentnel. All right, but still Worst Year

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