1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: wisdom and offering sizzling. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: your host, Newie Scrugs. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: Media mash Let's ride from the SWEC podcast studio at 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: the Star in Frisco, Texas. I am Newie Scrugs, joined 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: by former Cowboy beat writer and the author Jean Jacques Taylor. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: We've got the foot Wars Star Telegram's own Cowboys beat 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: writer Nick Harris joining us now as the Cowboys get 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: ready to face the New York Jets, the Windless Jets 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: who lost last night in Miami, Florida. So they've got 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: a short week. That game will be at the Metal Ends. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: So before we get into that, let's just recap a 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: little bit of Sunday night football. Cowboys forty forty tie 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: against the Packers. How did you feel about that, Nick, 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: Because some people thought, hey, this is not bad. It 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: wasn't a loss, not really a win, but they felt 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: pretty good about it. 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: You tell me, Yeah, I walked out of there, like, 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: did we just waste four hours of our time. But 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: all in all, the Cowboys wasted one of the best 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: offensive performances that we've seen from this Cowboys bunch in 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: a few years. And that's not to diminish what the 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy offense looked like at times over of course 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But when you can score 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: on every possession in the second half, and you even 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: go back to late in the first half and they 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: were able to string a couple of touchdowns together, and 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: you can't get a win out of that, man, that's tough, 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: especially against the best scoring defense in the NFL. Entering 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: that game. You knocked them all the way down to 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: thirteenth in the NFL and score defense. But that's what 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: his team is, and you couldn't do anything with it 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: except for a tie. You had to get your best 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: out of your offense to get a tie. Seven of 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: ten possessions with the Cowboys scoring on unreal. 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: These are between twenty five Texas Rangers. Yeah, who are 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: all pitching and defense and the best in the league 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: and wors than the league offense. It's just flipped around here. 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: One of the best offenses. Don't look at me like 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: that one of the worst defenses. It's gonna be like 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: this a lot of weeks, fellas, because here's the thing. 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: I respect the owner. Help ain't coming overshawing, ain't. I 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing special this year with that knee injury. 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Uh what's my man's name? Revels never seeing him play, 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: you don't know if he can play or not. Help 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: is not coming on the way. So it's gonna be 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: like this, man, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: It's like text tech, something like Texas teching. 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: I won't argue with you on revel I will on overshowing, 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: just because we've seen him come back from an injury 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: in the past and he hit the ground running. But 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: you can't expect to get the full solution. 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Out of there. That's what I'm saying. You're right, and. 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: It's so much positivity coming from you, Taylor. So it's 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: not Georgia to be positive this. I know this, I know, 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: but okay, Uh. 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: So that say I was positive about the offense, man. 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: No, look, after forty forty time trying to find I was. 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: I was happy because I thought this team was going 63 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: to get beat badly. I thought it was going to 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: be bad. They were there and that that and this 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: was just my thing. And I asked Brian shot and 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: high everybody yesterday the press conference, did Jake Ferguson miss 67 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: a block out there on Michael Parsons? And he said, 68 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, Micah is Mike is pretty good. And then 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: he said, and this is I give him credit as 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: the coach. He said, I probably should have had Javonte 71 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: out there to help him. But that's also a tough 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: ask as a play caller for Jake Ferguson to try 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: to block Michael Parsons, especially down there, something that shouldn't 74 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: have happened. 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Yes, you're not supposed to ask a tight end to 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: block Michael Parsons. 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Especially a pass catching tight end, not without some help. 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: Not without some help. And and I that that probably 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: possibly could have been the game. But then you pointed 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: out to play beforehand, they had an opportunity to score 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: touchdown as well. 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hunter Luki coming around around the edge, they had 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: him moving across the formation. He kind of decked Brevin 84 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: span Ford in his back, knocked Brevin span Ford off 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: his assignment, and Rashaun Gary flew through the whole untackle Javon, 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Say Williams, that doesn't happen. There's a walk in touchdown 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: right there. 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: And you can't get those back because we saw football. 89 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: You make a mistake like that, it'll kill you. It'll 90 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: kill you. So Cowboys offense thirty eight points in the game. 91 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Thirty eight should be enough for a win in the 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: National Football League, But this Cowboys defense is bad like that. 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott had to put the team on his back, 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: and he did. Dak Prescott forty attempts, thirty one completion, 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: three hundred and nineteen yards, three touchdowns in the game, 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: one rushing touchdown in the game, one hundred and twenty 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: four point nine quarterback rating. In this one rain, Dakota 98 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Prescott did his job. 99 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: No, he balls, Man, he looks. I mean, we've talked 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: about this son, but he looks very comfortable in the offense. 101 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I think shot he's put in some new wrinkles, some 102 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: nice wrinkles with the motion. You saw some like we 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: hadn't seen the quarterback drawn forever and on that direct 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: snap to Javonte was a nice little wrinkle. But more importantly, man, 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I just think he's at that point in his career 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: where he's got the keys to the answer to the test. 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's seen it at all. He knows where 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: he's doing, he knows where he's going, completely comfortable, he 109 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: feels good, he's healthy. So I mean, he's just in 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: his bag right now. 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: Three seats command controlling confidence and when you've got that 112 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: rolling for you the way he's rolling it, it just. 113 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean that thing a couple of people pouring it 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: out on Twitter, but I remember tweeting it as it happens, 115 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that planing overtime where he's checking and checking, Yes, he 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: checks and then Green Bay makes a check and then 117 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: he checks back. Chase Daniel put a video on Pip 118 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: right and then he hits George Pickens right between the 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: corner and the safety. I think I put tweeted out 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: right there and like, oh, the Maestro is getting down 121 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: right now, because you could. And that's what I mean 122 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: by he's in his bag. It's like, and I said this, 123 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Rumo had a couple of years like that before his 124 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: back gave out. Where you're not you can't really stop him. 125 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: It's just whether they make the catch and whether they 126 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: protect him so he can get the ball off. 127 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: And he erased a narrative that has kind of cooked 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: up over the last couple of years about what he 129 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: can do against zone defenses. And he torched the zone 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: defense from from Green Bay. They ran zone on eighty 131 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: seven point eight percent of plays. And you talk about 132 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: that George Pickens play along sideline, that was probably his 133 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: best opportunity in being able to find a hole in 134 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: the zone and he did that. He did that throughout 135 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: the night. 136 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's the deal. If he's going to be good 137 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: when you blitz him and he's good against zone, yeah, again, 138 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: you don't you know, you don't really have a you 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: can't really do a lot with them. The only thing 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: that slows them down, and this is me is if 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: the defense is so bad, did they get behind so 142 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: early that they can't play the way they like to play? 143 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: I e. 144 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Third quarter to Chicago. 145 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: The number of guys catching passes in this game without 146 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb here was very impressive. George Pickens eleven targets, 147 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: eight catches. You had Jake Ferguson who had seven receptions 148 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: in the game, Jalen Tolbert four catches in the game, 149 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Cavante Turpin with three catches in the game, Javonte Williams 150 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: with three catches in the game. Miles Sanders would two 151 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: catches in the game. Floorinoid with two catches in the game. 152 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Luke scoon Maker with two catches in the game, What Yes, 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Hunter Lipke was targeted once. And you're just looking at 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: an array of people who kept making plays, and then 155 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: you start looking at the longs of some of these catches. 156 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Here Pickings with a twenty eight yard score in the game, 157 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: his long Ferguson had eleven yard. 158 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: Or Tolbert with the thirty four yard of to tap. 159 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: That Zack made an incredible throw in. That catch by 160 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: Tolbert was sensational. Urby with a fifteen yard connection here, 161 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: Floinoid with eleven yard connection here. So he's getting He's 162 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: getting guys the ball and getting it down the field 163 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: as well. 164 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: So you guys are right, he's playing at a really 165 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: high level. But I think he's always been a distributor. 166 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue one of his criticisms is 167 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: he's been too much of a distributor. You know, I'm 168 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: always moaning and growing about why you're throwing about Jalen Tober, 169 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, because he tips, he 170 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: tends to go to where the Reeds taken. 171 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert four catches, sixty one yards. 172 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh he get the way that number one again after 173 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: that catch he made, No, he doesn't. He get to 174 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: rock that one for another week though. 175 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: I will say this, the entire receiver room stuffed up, 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: and you needed that when Ceedee Lamb went down. Not 177 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: only was it George Pickens who didn't get a reception 178 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: until the five minute mark in the second quarter, that 179 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: offense was largely gone until he was able to do so, 180 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: but the entire room stuffed up, Turping Tolbert, Ferguson, even 181 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: Flinoy getting two catches. You know it was a big time. 182 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Let us not forget to throw kudos to junior Atams 183 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: for wide receiver coach here, No CD Lamb. These guys 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: not just they made key plays in a game where 185 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: they The offense had to be good for them to 186 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: hang in here had to be If they're not playing 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: next level, If Dak's not doing what he's doing here 188 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: and they're not making the catches here, this game could 189 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: have been a blowout. Could have been a blow out here. 190 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: But junior Adams wide receiver coach his first year with 191 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Man, I'm watching Turpin make the kind of 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: plays that I saw him make in college. He's making 193 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: these types of contributions. And then with Tolbert has gotten better. 194 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: I know there's some people who were saying that after 195 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: a training camp came, do you even keep him? 196 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Do you move on from him? Right now? 197 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert, A game like this makes you say, let's 198 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: see what else he can do. 199 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: I'd still shop him quietly. 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: And I make him earn in one every week. I'm 201 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: just saying, let's stay right there, Okay, let's do it. 202 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 203 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: If you move on from him, you're trust in Turpin 204 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 2: and Floy's what or you can be. And now I 205 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: was saying, are you depending on Mingo here? 206 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: What do you go? Baby? Yeah? 207 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: Mingo is coming back assumingly this week. He's certainly ready, 208 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: just awaiting that practice window to open up, and you're 209 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: getting CD back. I'm not saying train him before CD 210 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: gets back, but I would shop him. I would shop 211 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: him in the last year of his deal. He had 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: seven touchdowns a year ago. He's proven that he can 213 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: step into a big role. You know, this year without Lamb, 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, I think you could get something in 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: return for Look for a team that needs just a 216 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: number two, you know, like a bottom feeder type team 217 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: that needs a number two. Why not the Miami Dolphins 218 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: just lost Tyreek Hill for the year. What are you 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: looking for defense? In anything? On defense, anybody a living 220 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: pulse on the defensive side. 221 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: Of the. 222 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Linebacker who won't commit a penalty after. 223 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: The way pass. They had a couple of little dumb penalties. 224 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: They had a lot of. 225 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: Dumping in a young linebacker. They might have a couple 226 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: of years and get a couple of years out of 227 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: you know. Okay, all right, look, because are you resigning 228 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: Tolbert at the end of the year. No, No, I 229 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: don't see a reality where that happens unless he gets 230 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: another seven touchdown, seven hundred yard year, which I don't 231 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: even know how he gets those targets. 232 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: Now, you just go get you go get a rookie version. 233 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: At the time, I was gonna say here with pickings 234 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: and what we're seeing up this game, if he can 235 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: back this up, been put together, uh some. 236 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: More of these he got a month. 237 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: Tolbert wouldn't be in your price range because you're gonna 238 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: have to put it towards Pickens, and then you're gonna 239 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: have to They said, Mingo, you're under you're under contract. 240 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Try to get other people, said Turp, And you got 241 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: him under contract. So yes, it's going to get to 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: the point, how where you probably cannot afford him. So 243 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: you're you're Adam Grant's books called Think Again. You're making 244 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: me think again. And that's what you do. That's what 245 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: you're doing. You have the conversation, oh you know, okay, yes, 246 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: are you going to sign him? If you did want 247 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 2: to sign him, what would it cost you here? And 248 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: you're starting to look at the cost of what because 249 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: I would sign Pickens? 250 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: Can we wait three more games? And this is just me. 251 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: This is just me. I'm just asking you. And we 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: were talking about that. 253 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: You give Dack weapons like this, This is what you 254 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: can get from him the past couple of years. Man, 255 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: it's been CD into maybies, as claims would say. Now 256 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: you got two legit targets and a target like Pickings 257 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: where hey, man, I'm just gonna put it up for you. 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean just but if we get a holding. 259 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: Call and a p I mean this this guy we're seeing, 260 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: if they keep playing him properly can help make a difference. 261 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: But if I'm going to pay for I want to 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: pay for a difference maker. Philadelphia's got two dudes out here, 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: Why shouldn't you have two dudes? That's what It's what 264 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So when you say, can I see some 265 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: more here? 266 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I just said. I just said the month the month 267 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: while he's that guy. And so you want trust, which 268 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: is cool. Trust requires three things. 269 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: Time, proof of consistency, and you ask what you're asking for, 270 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Can I guess some more on this before I trust 271 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: you to give you a new deal? 272 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: And see, here's the other thing with it though, And 273 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: I think this is the blessing in the injury, which 274 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: is he and Dak can now find a rhythm between 275 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: practice and between games. By the time CD comes back, 276 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: he should be in rhythm with like he should know 277 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: how to get the ball to Pickings because they they've 278 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: had all this practice time because CD hadn't been out there. 279 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: Now you forced the table up a little Biteah. 280 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: That second half was the first time you can go 281 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: back and look at Pickens's targets throughout the season. That 282 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: is the first time you've seen a dack ball get 283 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: there before Pickens was a turnaround or it was out 284 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: of his hand before Pickens was turning around, like they 285 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: are understanding the time, and a switch flipped in that 286 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: second quarter, late in that second quarter, and this this 287 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: connection is really gonna benefit from that. 288 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: And once again considering this has been an organization's signed 289 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: guy so late in the process, if you chumped on 290 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: this thing and got Pickens done versus having to throw 291 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: a tag on h I would know this. If I'm 292 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, I would I would be pushing it very 293 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: much because and Nick, you and I have seen Pickens 294 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: in the locker room, they sit next to each other. 295 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: There is a true connection and you can see Dak 296 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: being the kind of person first if people if you're 297 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: around Dak Prescott. 298 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: He's a good dude. He's a guy that people like. 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: But for a dude like George Pickens coming in out 300 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: of the situation he was in, there's no judgment from 301 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: a guy like Dak. He's incorporating you in there. And 302 00:13:53,800 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: this guy feels comfortable, he feels very comfortable. And Pickens, 303 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: I actually think they may even I think there may 304 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: even be a I won't say closer, but I just 305 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: think there's my I think Pickens needed a guy like that, 306 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: a quarterback like he needed that. You know, I don't know. 307 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's had that. Well, he hasn't 308 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: had that in the league, but you can see it. 309 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: He hasn't had his whole career. Georgia hasn't had quarterbacks 310 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: since Matthew Stafford. 311 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: And see, I was trying not to go there, but 312 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: I want to hear them for Patrick Walker. Patrick come 313 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: down with the tweets, but yes, yes, but that kind 314 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: of guy that I think can make a difference for him. 315 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: And and really I think Dax can make a difference 316 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: for Pickens, not just on the field, but just in 317 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: the way he is. 318 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: Dak is that kind of dude, A young guy. 319 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: If I'm a young guy going in that room, that's 320 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: the word that go see him, Yeah, go see him, 321 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: uh in terms of what what he's doing, how he 322 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: goes about his business. 323 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: And and I think Pickens is. 324 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: A guy that I really after that game showed me 325 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: a lot because I talked to by Laffenberg before the game. 326 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: I said, listen, sent to Babe Loafenberg before the game, 327 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: and Babe said something I was one hundred percent on. 328 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, a lot of people are saying that 329 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: George Pickens is the number one. I don't think he's 330 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: a number one. I think he's the number two. But 331 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: I think he's one of the top forty receivers in 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: the game. And he says, I go back to what 333 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: Kurt Shilling should say about baseball, says, you know, if 334 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: you got to ask if a guy's an ace, is 335 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: he really a ace? And I'm like, yes, Pickens doesn't have 336 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, he doesn't make he hasn't made the approach. 337 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: He has potential. He's got that time. We hadn't seen 338 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: it well. 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His quarterback is justin fields. 412 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: He's oh for twenty five when the other team scores 413 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: at least twenty two points. 414 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: It ain't like he'd been on good teams. Man, that's 415 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: such a and this is not my bucket coming out, 416 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: but that's such a I mean, come on, man. If 417 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: he'd been on some good teams, I'd be like, oh, 418 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: he had a problem. But he's been He'd been with 419 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bears, He's been with an average stealer team, and 420 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: I've been with the raggedy rue. 421 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: But even when he was with the Steelers, he was 422 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: four and two. 423 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tomas, Mike Tom man get and there are better stats. 424 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: If you want to say he's part of a problem, 425 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: you can pull out that one. 426 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm with jj T here. I think johnsph Fields has had, 427 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, really bad luck in this league. 428 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: You see what did you see what he did last 429 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: night in a losing effort twenty twenty seven two hundred 430 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: and twenty six yards. Then he ran for eighty one 431 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. All I'm saying is against this defense, 432 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: he could be a problem. 433 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: Justin Fields has led his teams to an oh and 434 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: twenty five record when opponents scored at least twenty one 435 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: points and twenty five. Fields is the only winless quarterback 436 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: out of forty six quarterbacks in this sample over the 437 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: last five years with at least ten starts made. 438 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so now we're going down to clans Hill Road. 439 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: Can we still with his name on the show and 440 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get chastised later. And the Klan's 441 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: hill role is he put a tweet out the Cowboys 442 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: cannot lose to the JITs, and I'm like, it just 443 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna beat somebody this year. They ain't going on sixteen. 444 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: You just tell Shotty twenty two points. 445 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: And this this defense is twenty two points. I know. 446 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: So you keep putting that statut you know we're gonna 447 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: talk about next Tuesday. That record is what twenty five? 448 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: They scored thirty seven points and Dak could only must 449 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: have thirty five. I don't see it, man, I don't 450 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: see it. I don't see it. 451 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Man, don't trust Justin Peels. 452 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't trust the Jets. Hey man, we didn't trust 453 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: the Giants. Beat the Giants. Hey man, I'm telling you 454 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: we beat the with this particular defense. If me and Nick, 455 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: if me and Nicker alternating plays a quarterback, it'll be 456 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: a game in the fourth and Kayleb Williams won another game. Okay, 457 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: so maybe you know Okay, hey, I would love for 458 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: the defense to play better. Then we could talk about 459 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: how they blow out the Jets. Bottom line, you're not 460 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: picking the Jets. This week. I haven't made up my 461 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: mind yet. It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. Hey, what's the line? 462 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we're supposed to talk about this. 463 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: You can talk about it, you can bring it up. 464 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: It's three and a half. 465 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: See they think it's a pick them in Vegas. 466 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: Two and a half, three and a half, something like that. 467 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: Because the defense defense, the defense man's going out. 468 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 2: Allow everyone. Everybody's gonna get to hang in there, right, 469 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Russell Willis has got to go to the way back 470 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: this outay. 471 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Like you think Justin Fields wasn't at the opposite at 472 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: five o'clock this morning. Let me see that tape coach 473 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: late night flight he probably wasn't. Nah, you you know 474 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: what I mean? Man, He took chauffeur right right to 475 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: the right to the game. 476 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: What noon game on the road. This team never shows up. 477 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: It's been bad for years. And against a team that's 478 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: owing four, they're gonna be hungry. Against the quarterback that 479 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: likes to extend plays with his legs. All the right 480 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: things are in the in the pot to make this 481 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: a recipe for. 482 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: They should win. They should. But again I'm being very honest. 483 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't style point this team this team is not 484 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: good enough to be style pointing them. So if they 485 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: if they can win thirty seven, thirty five, if they 486 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: win seven to six, they just need to win. They 487 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: just need to stack Dubbs because if they lose. 488 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, this team is the Joshua Dobbs Arizona 489 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: Cardinal Performance and the Joshua Dobbs Tennessee Titans. 490 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: We have seen that before. So could Justin Fields come 491 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: out with one of those yes, because Justin Fields is average, 492 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: He's not trash. 493 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: But they this I know, I said it during the 494 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: Bears game. 495 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Gotta win this one, dude. They had five hundred yards 496 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: offense last night the Dolph I mean the Jets Brest 497 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: Hall ran for eighty they had two hundred Russian and 498 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: two hundred passes. Okay, and again this defense don't make 499 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: me feel comfortable. Man, have to Yes, I get it, 500 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I get it. You're right, you're right. 501 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: This team is not good enough to just be like, 502 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: oh there's the Jets. Oh in twenty five. You're right, 503 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: You're right. 504 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man, oh in twenty five, I'm you know, 505 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: I put my dollar on the Cowboys by snicker arm. 506 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: What can I put on it? Chris? What can I 507 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: put on it? And I get it? Trump? Oh, the 508 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: league some being deal some black beam dip, black beam dip. 509 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: All right. 510 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: The magic number then is twenty one. Because along those 511 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: same lines twenty two. The Cowboys have lost thirty straight 512 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: games when they've scored less than twenty points. 513 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 514 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: Really, since it's twenty eighteen. That Thursday night game against 515 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: the Saints, that was eighteen, right, that was eighteen? 516 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really wow? Thirty straight? Look at that. That's a 517 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: great stet right there. There we go, here we are, there, 518 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: we go, first team to twenty one, get the dug. 519 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: They'll probably score twenty more points. This defense is we 520 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: said that against embarrassing. Yeah yeah, this defensive give up 521 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: more in twenties. But you need because again, they like 522 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: to run the ball a little bit. 523 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man. 524 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: As we when the locker room. Yes, the defense, they're 525 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: getting close to get these things. Communications getting better, I 526 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: mean about and the turnovers said, they got the turnover straight. 527 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: A little bit more communication, Okay, just like that. 528 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I would like to see it. But Sambourne and Murray 529 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: is still out there on a regular basis from now. 530 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw Sanborn get taken out for Shamar James 531 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: for some points in the second half. I wonder, you know, 532 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: they try to explore that route a little bit more 533 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: this week. I would like to see at this point 534 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: Murray is as bad as that is Murray, James and Clark. 535 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: What does that look like? At least you're maximizing the 536 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: athleticism of Clark and James. It's not a good core, 537 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: but it's it's athletic. 538 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: At least you just said down. 539 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there would I would put Yeah, I would still 540 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: Leah found the game and Clark. And that's my next 541 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: question is Okay, so if you're doing that, who you're 542 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: get to sit? Yeah, if you're putting, if you because 543 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: Clark sat Laborn, Sanborn. 544 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Sanborn, that's teachers that Sanborn gave you tea. 545 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: Right there. He showed he showed up with a pink 546 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: Lady Apple. 547 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: Every day a teacher might get laid off at the 548 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: end of the semester. 549 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Uh, well, I don't know if he's 550 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: speaking of that. It is a proper phrase. Uh. Talking 551 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: about this defense a lot of different directions. Talking about 552 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: the guys trade by Diggs what's up with him starting 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: on the bench? Man shot Y making a point? 554 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: You wonder, uh Diggs After the game he said, you're 555 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: gonna have to ask coach about that one. So he 556 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: said he was surprised by that decision. Uh. And when 557 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: Schottenheimer was asked, he's like, yeah, we're gonna let him 558 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: get healthy and you know, fit into the for a plane. 559 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I'm all. I'm all for sending messages. One 560 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: of the things I like about Chris Young and the 561 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Rangers is, hey, we gave you, Josh Young and some 562 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: other guys. We gave you playing time to play. You're 563 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: not playing to your standard. Why don't you spend some time, 564 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: spend a week or two of the miners eating off 565 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: that buffet at the end of the game, and decide 566 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: you want to be up here. And while you can't 567 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: do that in the NFL, I don't mind saying, hey, man, 568 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: you're not really playing to your pedigree. 569 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: Then you'll make the managers going to the Hall of 570 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: Fame walk the plank and go. 571 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you good with that with Chris Young? Good with that? 572 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 573 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: I like Chris Jall, you like brus Bochi, I like Christia. 574 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: You think I mean this turned into a baseball conversation. 575 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: You brought it up. Do we think Bruce Bochie connected 576 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: with the clubhouse this year or did he ayes to 577 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: them out because son like guys tuned him out as 578 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: great as he is going Hall of Fame. Okay, used 579 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: to be he don't make no honey. Grandma used to say, 580 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: Now Nick Nick over here, Nick over here cutting people. 581 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 3: So Bruce trading, trading, maximizing value. 582 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: I have a suspicion that if mister Bochie's managing the 583 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Giants or the Braves next year those will be. 584 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: Playoff teams, his message would be new. 585 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Maybe or maybe those players will be more receptive. I 586 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: don't think it's the carpenter. I think it's the carpenter's tools. 587 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: So you don't, like Christiana, know what I'm saying. 588 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Like Christian, you may want to ahead get somebody who 589 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: closed the back in the games, just saying. 590 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: No, Now you're a hundred percent true on. 591 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: That, Okay, just say it's like for people people get 592 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: on you're getting on ebra flutes. Okay, there's points of 593 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: times you can get on any flues. But I'm sorry, 594 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: does the carpenter have good tools? We talked about last 595 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: year with Mike Zimmer. My thing with Zim, I'm like, 596 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 2: Zim wins some big people. You know, big people here 597 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: up front, it's not what they do. So at some 598 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: point in time, when do we look towards the people 599 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: who are choosing the tools that. 600 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: You supposed to work? 601 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: Wait and say, man, that that's that doesn't fit. 602 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: No. I was correct with you on Nett, just like 603 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: you can't have multiple quarterbacks. I don't believe championship caliber 604 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: baseball teams have closed about committee. 605 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: Matt ebra Flus took this job. Oh, I got Michael 606 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: Parsons start right there. 607 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I got Parsons and Parsons so good. I can bring 608 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Jack Saymborn over here. Yeah, because he gonna have to 609 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: come a long right, I man gonna cover up something 610 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: that could be Okay. 611 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: Everybody say, there's an opportunity for this defense to fall 612 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: up over the course in the next couple of weeks. 613 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Tell me falling by losing Malie Hooker for a couple 614 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: of weeks. One yea Thomas getting an opportunity. Shotty said, yes, 615 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: something yesterday in the press conference I thought was really telling. 616 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: He said. When I asked him, I was like, Hey, 617 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: what do you like about wan Yer? Why does he 618 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: deserve this opportunity? He said, he's a great communicator, and 619 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: that's what we need right now. He's a very efficient communicator. 620 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: So I'm looking at that and I'm like, man, that 621 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: tells me wan Yer has a little bit more in 622 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: the communication department than anybody else in that secondary and 623 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: he's going to be able to elevate them right now, 624 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: at least from a communication standpoint. If he's able to 625 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: do exactly that's all. That's all it really comes down to. 626 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: And if he's able to do that over the course 627 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: in the next couple of weeks. 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We're gonna have fun while while last. 705 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: Okay, look, Eric Morris has done a good job over good, 706 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: good good head football coach North Texas. 707 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: Washington State OC. Before that, he was the head coach 708 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: at Incarnate Word. He's been responsible for cam wore John Mattier. 709 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I say. He got a quarterback right now. 710 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: And he got a quarterback right now. He never started 711 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: a game in high school this quarterback. So I'll tell 712 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: you if you get a quarterback, ask Eric Morris. 713 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: How about his quarterback from last year? 714 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chandler Morris balling of their Virginia's They beat 715 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Florida statele. 716 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Chandel Morris with his sixth school. 717 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: I did ask Gary Patters and during the week before 718 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: the game, I said, what turn? What click for this kid? 719 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: But Chandel Morris from Oklahoma to TCU to you and 720 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: t to Virginia. You know what, take advantage of the opportunities, 721 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: young man, Rumble, young man rumble. 722 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, when you've been in the 723 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: league six years, you started to get a field for 724 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: the nuanced. 725 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: And worked at the keys to thet. You know what, 726 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: it worked for Great bon Nicks. Bonnick's been a million 727 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: years at Auburn with the Oregon and now he's in 728 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: the league and that's out here balling on Monday in 729 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: at football. I did not think Bonnicks would be very 730 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: good in pro right. 731 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: I thought it, but you know, cam Ward incarnate word, 732 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: Washington State, Miami. 733 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Playing football, Matt playing football matters. 734 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: You're young for this. Getting fourteen fifteen hundred passing attempts 735 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: in your college career makes a difference. 736 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: Marcels talked about playing football a number of starts. He 737 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: wanted to see that. That's where the Bears truly screwed 738 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: up with Mitchell Trubisky. You took a dude who at 739 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: thirteen starts. You can't take a guy at thirteen starts 740 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: that that high trying to throw him out there. 741 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: It's it's just you ain't seen enough right now. He 742 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: didn't even seen the exotic stuff in college. Guy was 743 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: third team All acc. 744 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: When if only there was like a big twelve quarterback 745 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: in that draft who had like forty five. 746 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: Stars, or the dude who won a national championship in 747 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: the draft, you know who, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. 748 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 2: So so well, you know this is to me, that's 749 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: that's what you want. Dak Brits got play loud football 750 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: in Mississippi State, So that's that's what you want to do. 751 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: Go find some guys who are actually playing. So when 752 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: I hear this arch Manning stuff, and people Cowway fans like, 753 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: you know, well, let's just think we'll get arch Manning. 754 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: I said, first off, I don't think the kid's gonna 755 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: come out after one year. 756 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: No, no, because he got money and he ain't played. 757 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: And the second thing is, and this was before the 758 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: Ohio State game, I was like, man, I remember Colt mccoy' 759 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: first start against the Buckeye, and it could be easy 760 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: this this aink the team to come out here and 761 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: just say, hey, I'm the starting guy. Let's go fake 762 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: Ohio State and don't end well, I'm these Texas guys. 763 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: And then people jumping on the guy. And then you 764 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: have people like Paul fine Bomb, you know, annoint this guy. 765 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Some saviors like stop it. This is college. It's an adjustment. 766 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And too many times people have to look at 767 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: certain players who have these rocket ship things happened in 768 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: the college or the NFL. I think everybody's like that, 769 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: this is hard. It is hard. It is hard, and 770 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: you want guys who play. That's why I look at 771 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: a guy like Dak Pres got to play a lot 772 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: of football and played football to place in the Mississippi 773 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 2: State where they won a whole lot of great players 774 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: around him. 775 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: And that's the Mississippi State did number number one. Mississippi 776 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: State did number one one. 777 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: Other NFL player on that roster, he's pretty damn good too. 778 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: But was that sweet Chris Jones? 779 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: Here's Jones? 780 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: I asked somebody. 781 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: It was Justin Quintey. 782 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: He was doing a former Virginia Tech coach, Memphis coach. Well, 783 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: Justin I first met him he was at TCU and 784 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: I said, tell me then, Johnny Manziel's story recruiting story, 785 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: because you know I heard you guys pass on. He said, okay, 786 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: all right, here's what happened. We saw Johnny Camp. 787 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: We like Johnny. Johnny was really good. 788 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: So we were recruiting three guys at the time, and 789 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: we were all gonna be able to take one. 790 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: It's Johnny. 791 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: Treylon Boykin, who they offered pretty good, he said. The 792 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: third guy that we were recruiting was Dak Prescott. All 793 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 2: three guys had pretty good careers. 794 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: It's a fun trio, all three guys. 795 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: And so he said, we. 796 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: Were only going to be able to take one, and 797 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: that's the one he took, and then A and M. 798 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he just kind Johnny just kind of they 799 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: offered him. But it wasn't like, hey man, we got 800 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: Johnny Man. 801 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: Like they didn't. 802 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: They didn't run out there on on on Sunday Day 803 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: say we got johnny Man. 804 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: They ain't say it like that. 805 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 2: But they ended up getting getting a guy who ended 806 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: up playing pretty well for him. But but that was 807 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: that was what's happened with U. And then I said, 808 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: so what happened Baker Mayfield? It's like, that wasn't me. 809 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: I was going, so it is. It is amazing how 810 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: all these tales work. I want to ask Dak one 811 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: day about that whole experience. You know, I was, by 812 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: the way, who was number two? You can find that 813 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: out for that because he went to MISSISSIPI said, who's 814 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: number two? Who was the runner? 815 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 5: Know? 816 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: Who was the runner up? In his choice for school? 817 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: I was like asking guys, like I've made a live 818 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: in asking guys why you pick where you pick? 819 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: And the story often, you know, like basically who who 820 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: came in second? You know, it's always there's always a 821 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: good story. The one who almost well. 822 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: Talked to Pickts the other day. He was committed to 823 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 3: Auburn for a long time, but it was Miami that 824 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 3: came in second for him. 825 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: Really, as long as he can't go to all now, 826 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: recruiting stores are some of the best best conversations in 827 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: the locker room you can get. 828 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: They are they are especially for a guy like you know, 829 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 2: George's from Birmingham. R Birmingham is that's a roll tied 830 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: town and to go to Georgia. But it worked out 831 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: well for him, worked out well for him. So we'll 832 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: be interesting to see what he can do again and 833 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 2: against the Metal Ends and the Jets. 834 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: I really want to see what George Pickens can do. 835 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 2: Another performance from him and then uh, defense gotta find 836 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: some stops this week. 837 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: I gotta find some stops. Gosh, you gotta find I think, man, 838 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: they just gotta look up under the covers that Diana. 839 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: Look if they can this week go stop the run. 840 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: I mean this is imperative. Stopped to run because we 841 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: saw what Green Bay was doing against the run last week. 842 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: Thirty six carries one hundred and sixty four yards four 843 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 2: point seven yard average. Here Jacob's twenty two carries eighty 844 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: six yards. Josh was really good three point nine average. 845 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: They've got to figure out how to slow that slow 846 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 2: the Jets down little bit there and then at the 847 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: same time keep doing what they're doing. Offensive running the ball. 848 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams has been a dean good running back for them. 849 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: Twenty carries eighty five yards. That twenty six carries in 850 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: the game for one to seventeen. Maybe upped that up 851 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 852 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: This week now they ran about their office has been 853 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 1: very productive. Man, they're running it, they're being physical. Shot 854 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: he's good play card. No, he was, and just like 855 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: you gave Junior some props, the offensive line coaches have 856 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: done a good job because it wasn't very much drop 857 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: off with the man with. 858 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 2: Three different with three starting guys going. 859 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: Now, do we think Nate's going to get any more 860 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: playing time? 861 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 3: I thought that was fascinating. 862 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: You were talking to him yesterday. 863 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: Nick had a real in depth conversation, but we all 864 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 2: interrupted him yesterday. 865 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: And that was tough. I felt back for the kid. No, 866 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: but he got in the right tackle for four snaps, 867 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: then moved over to left for thirteen snaps after Goton 868 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: went down. Guton is in the concussion protocol, so if 869 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: he's not ready Sunday, it's gonna be Nate Thomas at 870 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 3: left tackle. Thought he played well in his limited snaps. 871 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 3: You know, there were times where footwork was a bit sloppy, 872 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: and he even admitted to that too. But he's still 873 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 3: learning the position. It's tough to ask of a guy 874 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: going into an NFL game still learning the position. But 875 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 3: you know, I thought he played well in his seventeen 876 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: snaps or whatever it was. But he was shocked to 877 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: get in. Was He was like, man, I saw TG 878 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: going the tent. They looked at me and said you're in. 879 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 3: He went, oh gosh, He's like, took me a couple 880 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: of seconds, got mentally prepared and I was ready to go. 881 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: And so, hey, man, that's a good story. That's a 882 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: really good story man. And he overcame a lot of 883 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: odds to be able to make this happen and spend 884 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: of a. 885 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: Year great story and also just attest him it to 886 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: what they have done as a staff. Clayton Adams who 887 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: came over from Arizona. He's the offensive coordinator, but he 888 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: was an offensive line coach out there, and then the 889 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: Connor who they brought in over it from Kansas State. 890 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: He's done a good job too that these guys have 891 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: been able to come in here seamlessly. I mean, dude, 892 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: Riley DJ Bass Brock Coffee. I thought it was gonna 893 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: be a problem. I thought I thought Michael might be 894 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: able to get to them. 895 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: Anything. Ain't anything on them at all. Did a good job, man, 896 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: real good job. Now they did a good job. And 897 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: then Shoty did a good job scheming it. They moved 898 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: to pockets and they had some rollouts. They hit him 899 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: with some chips and some other thing, and he was 900 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: still disruptive, but he didn't wreck the game. Yeah, and 901 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: Dad got rid. 902 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: Of the balls, you know, on Vonte Williams got in 903 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 3: his way multiple times. If you're going to talk about 904 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: the offensive lines performance on Sunday, you gotta talk about 905 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: Javonte Williams. 906 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: And there's another there's another guy that if you're Jerry 907 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 2: and Steve and you sit around here and you start 908 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: to say to yourself, could we offer him another contract? 909 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: I liked it that twenty five years old. You know, 910 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: he's a probably best served as a complimentary guess. So 911 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: if you can get him for your price then yet. 912 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and still and Nick, you were talking about Nick 913 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 2: nickas our draft groover over here, still talking about going 914 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: in the draft and finding you know, going to finding. 915 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 3: The thing about it is, though, are you spending it 916 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: first or a second round pick on a noting back, 917 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 3: because if you're not, then you're gonna have to go 918 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 3: to round four and you're talking about another Day three 919 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: guy at that point because you don't have a third 920 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: round pick so well, and so maybe you trade did 921 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: win for yeah, man, that's an option. 922 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: And that's to me. 923 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: That's the one thing I've I've kind of said, is 924 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 2: that Green Bay pick may be the pick you say 925 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: to someone who wants to come and get at quarterback 926 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: or somebody and they want a five year deal on 927 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: and you move out of the first round, but you're 928 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: still high enough to try to get some of the 929 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: things you want, depending also depending on where you finish. 930 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 2: But these are great conversations to have here. But maybe 931 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: doing a trade down at some point in time could 932 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: net you some more players. 933 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: Now you're not a little good trade down right here, 934 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: you know. 935 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 3: What, Especially if you're in like that twenty eight to 936 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: thirty two range from the backers pick and that thirty 937 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: three to forty at the beginning of the second round, 938 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: that's the sweet spot for those running backs. You talk 939 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 3: about Trayvon Henderson, Quinchwn Judkins last year or a couple 940 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 3: more of the year before. 941 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: So that and even evens. I mean, you look at 942 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: a kid like Cooper Gjen I remember watching him play 943 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: at Iowa, so I thought he was a really good 944 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: player there. So you start to find some cats like 945 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: that in that second round where for whatever reason, they 946 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: don't get in the first, but they're right there. I mean, 947 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 2: Luther Burton, you know there's a guy. I mean, that's 948 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: the kind of thing where if I'm going to do 949 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: a trade down to the Cowboys, if I say, hey, man, 950 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: I'm I moved down out of the first let me 951 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: find some guys here who could potentially be starters and 952 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: help us a long term. And I think they could, 953 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, find a way to take one pick and 954 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: maybe get get two three players out of it, depending 955 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: on how they do it. 956 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: So just me, I'd much rather picking thirty three to 957 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 3: forty than twenty six to thirty two. I would much 958 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 3: rather do that. 959 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 2: I think it all depends on what you see. Sure, 960 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: that's for sure, what you know, what are your grades, 961 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: But also just hey, what all can we how can 962 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: you maximize the pick? Because there's some folks who will 963 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 2: give you a lot, you know, you find the right 964 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 2: like Atlanta, like, huh what they were doing last year? 965 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: So you never know. 966 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: It's all depends on who's the dude you're talking to. Man, 967 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: who's the dude who's desperate and saying you Bobby Bethward 968 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 2: for years, Fine, I want to move up. Bobby giveaway 969 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 2: next year's number one for two that was still find 970 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: that kind of guy who's who's willing to. 971 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: Willing to move offesome stuff and see what you can 972 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: mill there. 973 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: They kind of sort of have your answer to the 974 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott recruitment question. He was only offered by Mississippi State, 975 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: so he committed to Mississippi State before his senior year. 976 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: He grew up a Texas fan. Texas never gave him 977 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: the time of day and LSU tried to offer him 978 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: super late and he was like, nah, my man, of 979 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 3: my word, I'm sticking with Mississippi State. So I guess 980 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 3: you could say l s U came in second, but 981 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: it was really Mississippi State from the jump. 982 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: You know, and loyalty and it worked out well for him. 983 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: Great work and cares you come back tomorrow. I'm gonna 984 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 2: do some great working back, you come back tomorrow man, 985 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: you know heyday, Yeah it's not here. 986 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: I knew he's coregged. Thanks to Chris being that's the 987 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: media mash, We're out. 988 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 989 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club 990 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: Minute