1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Straight firefam, It's me Jason, give tire, Straight fire. Tuesday, 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: November seventh. Not much fire this morning, because you can 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: tell well subdued. That's what happens when the special teams 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: let you down. GARYL. Wilson lets you down, and you 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: dig Zach Wilson a fourteen nothing hole. This is what happens. Oh, anyway, 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be too down in the dump. 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Never get too high, never get too low. Very happy. 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: I did not put the Jets in the contest. Holy hell, 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: would a let down that was? I'd say, we have 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: an awesome show coming up today, but like, can I 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: feel awesome? The freakin Jets gets smoked on national television, 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: and they do so when allowing one hundred and ninety 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: one yards of total offense. My gosh, what an abomination. 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Obviously talk about that. Anthony Davis goes down injured, Jeez. 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: Lakers lose again. In other positive news, So a buddy 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: I grew up with his sister has a son and 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: he plays college basketball. He's a freshman at Saint Francis PA, 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: and of course Saint Francis Pia was playing at UCLA 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: last night, so I went to the UCLA home opener, 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: saw my buddy's sister, her husband. They have a freshman 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: or sophomore daughter who's a big time college basketball prospect 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: already has like five offers as a sophomore in high school. 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: And I'll say this about UCLA, they will work in progress. 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Rob G's Bruins a lot of guys gone him, HOWK 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: has gone to the NBA. They got a lot of 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: young guys. Listen, it was an all right game, but 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: my head just wasn't in the right space after watching 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: the Jets. I'll be up front, this was not a 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson problem. He's not the reason they lost. Let's 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: just get that out of the way. It's easy for 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: the media to pick a sid Who are we gonna 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: blame for this? Well, it's not fun to blame the 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: offensive line. It's not fun to blame Nathaniel Hackett, who's 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: a bum of an offensive coordinator, who's dumb enough to 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: leave Billy Turner Billy Turner on an island against Joey Bosa. 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: What are we doing? You could see that, like from 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: the first second drive, You're like, whoa wait a minute, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: We're not gonna double Bosa. Really, We're not gonna leave 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: a tight end into chip nothing and it just snowball 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: from there. Zach Wilson dropped like a bad habit eight times. 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean it was ugly, and I'm this isn't on, Zach, 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: It's not yet. Listen, we can You guys are gonna 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: want kill him because it's easy on. Zach Wilson stinks. 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: I was in a tough spot. I had to My 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: daughter had a team, have volleyball team at a big meeting. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: So I'm watching the game at the meeting. My daughter 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: sees like, Dad, you're watching a game. I'm like, yeah, 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I am, so. I had the volume off and all 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: these people are telling me Detroy Aikman is just killing 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. Like, what are you saying? Jack Wilson stinks. 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is news with Troy. That is like 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: splitting the atom here saying Zach Wilson's not good? Like 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: is he good? No? But was he the problem? Was 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: he the reason or even one of the remote reasons 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: that they lost this game? 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. The offensive line gave up eight sacks. You're 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: not gonna and listen let's be real. You can't give 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: up a punt return touchdown. Jets, by the way, where 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 3: I believe top twelve in DVOA special teams heading into 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: this game, top twelve, and they give up a punt 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: return touchdown to a rookie Burner. 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: This is a small kid. I was at the Chargers 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Bears game and when Josh Palmer was hurt, they put 66 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: this little kid in Davis and he's fast, and I'm like, wow, 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: but he can't really do anything a receiver. He's just 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: he's not ready. And they put him on the punt 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: return against the Jets and boom, he's gone two minutes 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: into the game, eighty seven yard punt return. It's like 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: seven to nothing. Old, Okay, we're screwed. Yep, that's not great. 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,559 Speaker 2: Jets get the ball instantly driving and it's like, oh, 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson are r awesome receiver who is pushing to 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: be an elite receiver in this league, top ten receiver 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: for sure, gets it, gets approaching first down yardage, and 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: he coughs it up fumble. Now. Luckily that didn't turn 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: into anything as the Chargers Chargers offense, which did not 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: look playoff ready and I'll tell you right now, this 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: is without Josh Palmer, without Mike Williams, this offense is 80 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: a tough watch. But the next time the Jets get 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: the ball back, Zach Wilson buried by Bosa, fumble forced 82 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: by Bosa, recovered by Bosa, and you know, fifty plays, 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: fifty yards later, Austin Eckler's in and it's fourteen to nothing. 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, that was like midway 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: through the first quarter. You can't have two turnovers and 86 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: give up a special teams touchdown. When you have Zack 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Wilson at quarterback, you have Patrick Mahomes a quarterback, You're 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: gonna have a chance. Hell, you got two at quarterback. 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: You got brock perty back there, you're still alive. You 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: got Zach Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett in that offensive line. 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Not happening. It just not happen happening. It wasn't their night. 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: I saw some okay things from the Jets, But like again, 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: this was an opportunity. The Bills lost, the Dolphins lost, 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: the Patriots are done. This was a great opportunity for 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: the Jets to get to five and three, firmly in 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: the mix to win the division, solid footing in the 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 2: wildcard race, and on deck they've got the Vegas Raiders, 98 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: Like that's a winnable game. Now, I don't know if 99 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: that's a winnable game. And now Rob G's gonna be 100 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: talking shit all week because Raiders are coming off a win. 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: They smacked the Giants. Jets could barely get by the Giants, 102 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: like all of It's so crazy how a three game 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: winning streak can feel so good and then it all 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: comes undone in like a seven minute span to start 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: an Island game against the Chargers on Monday Night football. 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: It's stunning. I mean, they bottled up Austin Echoer three 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: point four yards to carry the Chargers. Are you ready 108 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: for this? Had two plays of over twenty yards the 109 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: entire game. That's it. A Caenan Allen twenty three yard 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: catch which I believe the one handed catch he had 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: to make because it was so far off by Herbert, 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and then Eckler had a nice twenty yard carry. That's it. 113 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: They couldn't really do anything offensively. Eckler had seven targets, 114 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen had nine, and everything else was like, oh, 115 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: let's just try Dan get dunk here and nothing was 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: doing anywhere. Just shut down everything. If you told me 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: coming in, Jay, the Jets are going to hold the 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: Chargers under two hundred yards of offense justin Herbert will 119 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: be sacked five times. Do you like your chances of winning? 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, We're probably winning that game ninety 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: percent of the time, and the Jets never stood a 122 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: chance because special teams and early fumbles. Rob. This is 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: one of those depressing games where I don't know, man. 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: I know I'm supposed to bring the fire and bring 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: the heat and kill people and crush people and name 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: and take names, and I just don't have it in me. 127 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: This is a dispiriting performance. You should know that you're 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: a Raiders fan, right, You've seen this kind of game before. 129 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: I've seen plenty of these games before, and beg you 130 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: for taking shot out my Raiders. They're right at the 131 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: end of your little LILLOQUI. I really appreciate it. Look 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: like you're being a little too kind to Zach Wilson. Okay, 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: I think I think Robert Sala said it best when 134 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: during the postgame press conference and somebody asked him about 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: there's confidence level in Zach Wilson and During his roundabout answer, 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: he closes it by saying was it his best game? 137 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Obviously not, but was it his worst game? No, I'm 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: not gonna say it was even close to his worst game. 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: And of course, you know that quote took got some 140 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: traction on social media after the game, and I looked 141 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: it up and shout out to Robert Sala. He knows 142 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: exactly what he's talking about, because just statistically, that wasn't 143 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: even his worst game of the season, right, Zach Wilson, 144 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: if you go based on passer rating, that was his one, 145 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: two three fifth worst game of the year, right, His 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: passer rating was just above eighty last night. People forget 147 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: September seventeenth at Dallas. I got twelve to twenty seven, 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: one touchdown, three picks for a passer rating of thirty 149 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: eight point one, blistering before mix. And then you know, yeah, 150 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: and then the following week Jets at the New England Patriots, 151 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: eighteen of thirty six, zero touchdowns, zero picks, So it 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't even that bad. And then he follows that up 153 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: here a couple weeks later, October fifteenth, Jets versus the Eagles, 154 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: he goes nineteen to thirty three so you're feeling pretty 155 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: good about that when one eight six, zero touchdowns, zero picks, 156 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: but he was sacked five times. And look, this kind 157 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: of is who Zach Wilson is at this point. You know, 158 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I hate to belabor the point, but he's not an 159 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, right, I mean, at best, he is a 160 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: lower rung backup quarterback in the NFL right now, and 161 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: at this point, I'm starting to feel bad for the 162 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Jets defense because they knew last year that this guy 163 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the guy. I mean, he was benched three different 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: times right for Chris Streveler, Joe Flacco, and I don't 165 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: even remember who the third guy was. I know it 166 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: was happened three times, and that's how that it was 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: Mike White, the legend. I think he's a backup now 168 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: in Miami. They benched him. Zach Wilson took no accountability 169 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: during that portion of the season, and it's why they 170 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: had to move on from him. And rather than just 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: cut their ties, cut their losses, Hey, we're gonna go 172 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers and I don't know, bring Matt Flynn 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: out of retirement. Literally, anybody to be like a veteran backup, 174 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: bring Brian Hoyer in I don't care anybody they decide. 175 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: You know what, We're already pot committed with this guy. 176 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: We invested a second round pick. He's not gonna play 177 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers being hurt, so we'll just keep him 178 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: on the roster. Now, look, I'm not saying I could 179 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: have predicted an Aaron Rodgers torn Achilles, like that's just brutal. 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers at age fifty nine behind that offensive line, 181 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have second guessed you. He said, Hey, yeah, 182 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers probably not gonna play a full season. 183 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: He might missed two or three games because he's nicked up. 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: So maybe have just a guy who you can count 185 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: on to just not turn the ball over and complete 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: sixty to case Keenum his way to a couple of 187 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: games with that defense. And he can't even. 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: Josh, how about this to Josh Dobbs his way exactly. 189 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: He couldn't even can't judge thoughts his way to any 190 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: of this stuff. And if this was the movie Full 191 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Metal Jacket, oh boy, we would already have the scene 192 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: where the defensive players find Zach Wilson in this hotel room. 193 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: They wrapped the towel around his body so we can't move, 194 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: and they beat him with socks and soap and stuff 195 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: like that would have already happened if they thought they 196 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: could get away with it. Unfortunately they can't, and now 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: this is just leading to yet another disappointing Jets season, 198 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: not because the team sucks, but because the quarterbacks play 199 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: is so bad that it drags the rest of the 200 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: team down with him. 201 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Harsh listen with Zach Wilson's got to put it up 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: forty nine times. 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Hey, 235 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: let's let's try Aaron Rodgers out there to offer some misdirection. Hey, yeah, 236 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: we did a shitty job with the offensive line. They're 237 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: they're really garbage. They couldn't protect. To borrow a phrase 238 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: from The Last Boy Scout? Do you have you seen 239 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: The Last Boy Scout? 240 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Rob, I actually have a fun fact feel once you 241 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: finished this little point. But yes, I adapt see the movie. 242 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Bruce Willis goes into the club where Halle Berry's stripper 243 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: and Damon Wayne's comes up and he's like, so you're 244 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: the bodyguard, and Bruce Willis says something like don't tell anybody, 245 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: and he goes, you look like you couldn't protect a 246 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: cup of warm piss. I don't know if I will 247 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: have to eat that or bleep that, but and I 248 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: just bust up laughing the first time I heard that. 249 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: And basically, the Jets offensive line couldn't protect anybody like 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: the idea of putting Aaron Rodgers out three months removed 251 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: from an achilles is insanity. He'll he will never play 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: football again if it happens, Like get a clue. I mean, 253 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 2: it's just silly, and you don't want to overreact to 254 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: one game. And I know Zach Wilson has been bad 255 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: for more than one game. But Rob, I'm looking abou schedule. 256 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: After Vegas, they have Buffalo, Miami, Atlanta. Atlanta's at home. 257 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: They should be okay with the defense. Miami's at home, 258 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: we'll see Buffalo. Buffalo probably will get revenge. Just got 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: to beat the Raiders, and then the rest of the 260 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: way Houston, which looks live now, Miami, Washington, Cleveland, New England. 261 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: They can still mess around and steal nine wins. I'm 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: firmly believing it. I'm feeling less confident about it now 263 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: after what they could have won this game. But coming 264 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: into this season, we didn't think this was a win, right. 265 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: I like the Chargers a lot. I didn't think that 266 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: that they would beat Philadelphia. Obviously, imagine that this Jets 267 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: team beat Philadelphia. Now, I know Hurts had a couple 268 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: of turnovers. I'm looking at the stat sheet. The Chargers 269 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: had three fumbles, none of them were lost. That's just 270 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: no interception. So the basically no turnovers for the Chargers, 271 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: and the Jets had two in the first eight minutes. Like, 272 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: you're just not gonna overcome that. So Rob, I don't 273 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: really know where else to go with this for the Jets. 274 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: Just utter disappointment. I thought. Before we got to the Lakers, 275 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: I quickly asked you what your thoughts were on a 276 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: couple of these lines, because I did bet several games. 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: Listen went four and one in the contest, felt pretty good. 278 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, let me, uh, let me take 279 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: a gander on some games here for this coming week. 280 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: This is gonna sound dumb, but Seattle Seahawks minus six 281 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: against Washington in Seattle, Baltimore minus six against Cleveland in Baltimore, 282 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Risky Divisional game. I took the Niners minus two and 283 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: a half in Jacksonville, and then unfortunately I went extremely 284 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: heavy and took the Dallas Cowboys minus sixteen at home 285 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: against the New York Giants, and either Mike DeVito or 286 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: Matt Barkley because Daddy Dimes is torn his acl and 287 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: he's out for the season, any thoughts on those four games. 288 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Well, before I answer that question, you brought up the 289 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: movie Last Boys Gun that I had a fun fact 290 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: for you. 291 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, last please Yeah, he. 292 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Went listening to the show. Know that my dad used 293 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,239 Speaker 1: to run the LA Sports tren in the LA Coliseum 294 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: way back in the eighties and nineties, right, So that 295 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: movie and the football scenes were all shot at the 296 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: LA Coliseum, which has been the case for a lot 297 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: of these you know, football movies. So you know, if 298 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: you work on set, you get some perks things like that. 299 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: And one of the things that was gifted to my 300 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: dad and his crew for a job well done, I guess, 301 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: was a LA Stallion's helmet that they used in the movie. 302 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: So I had we had that growing up. It was 303 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: on my dad's like little bookshelf with some you know, 304 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: earth Wind and Fire Michael Jackson records, and there was 305 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: an LA Stallion's helmet official like, not like a prop, 306 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: like a real helmet that we had propped up there. Yeah, 307 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: so safe to say I've put that bad way on 308 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: plenty of times, had budded some doors and stuff to 309 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: see if it worked, and it did work. It was 310 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: a real helmet. So yes, But but looking ahead to 311 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: next week, you know you hate to lay the lumber 312 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: like that. But I'm with you man that Dallas Cowboys 313 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: New York Giants line. I don't I don't know what number, 314 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: how high you'd have to go for me to not 315 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: be interested in it. Yeah, because if my Raiders can 316 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: make it, was it Tommy Davito, right? And I believe 317 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito is the guy. 318 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: I think it might as well be Danny Davito for. 319 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: All the matter, exactly might as well be Danny Davito 320 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: at this point. But if my Raiders can make him 321 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: look bad, can you imagine what Micah Parsons and company 322 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: is going to do to them? 323 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Like this, they won the early against Daniel Jones. 324 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: I think it was thirty seven nothing or forty to 325 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: nothing in the season open. I remember in the rain 326 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: looks like it's up to seventeen, so you miss sixteen. 327 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: Seventeen is a key ish number. But honestly, I listen, 328 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: you never want to advocate for double digit favorites. I 329 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: just I don't see a path to success for de Veto. 330 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: Even if let's say Dax throws a pick six, the 331 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: Giants run a kickback. You know, fourteen points. I still 332 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: I still think they cover the spread, even giving up fourteen. 333 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: But look at the giant scores recently, Rob, Like, they 334 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: can't score points, whether it's the Raiders, whether it's the Jets, 335 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: anyone they play Buffalo, they can't score points. Their offense 336 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: cannot do anything. Everybody's hurt, and you have to start wondering, Robert, 337 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: they tanking thinking, hey, let's just move on from Daniel Jones. 338 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: We got a great excuse if we're drafting in the 339 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: top three or four, and they might I don't know, 340 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: you taking Drake may or you like going, Oh, looks, 341 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: get Daniel Jones some weapons. Hell no, I'm rebooting. I 342 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: need to ask you about your uh, your Raiders real quick, 343 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: Rob this First it was the basketball hoop in the 344 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: locker room. Then it was everybody kind of throwing shade 345 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: at McDaniels. Then the Jay Glaser report comes out, and 346 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: then you've got the cigars. Afterward, you've got Josh Jacobs 347 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: making comments. I'm just wondering, like, can you recall a 348 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: time when everybody universally blasted someone the way McDaniels has 349 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: been lit up like a Christmas tree this is really 350 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he must have been a real asshole. 351 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that might be one of the understatements 352 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: in this POD's history. Like as much as I joked 353 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: around about the Zach Wilson getting beat like a full 354 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: metal jacket style, like, that's pales in comparison to what 355 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: they would have done to Josh McDaniels if they had 356 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity. Like I've had people tell me around the 357 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: team within the first month he was there, that they 358 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: knew they didn't like him, that he was a jerk, 359 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: that he was self righteous, that he was uncollaborative, that 360 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: he was everything you don't want in an NFL head coach. 361 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I mean, even just the stuff that's been well docman, 362 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of 363 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: things that I've heard that some of the star players 364 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: said about him, but just the things that are public. 365 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, for all of his faults, one of the 366 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: things that he does just as well as any quarterback 367 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: in football, is as good at adjusting it the line 368 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I mean, there's famous clips of him under 369 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: John Gruden basically audibling every single play to get into 370 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: what he wants. It's why he was completing upwards to 371 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes back then with you know 372 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: me and you a wide receiver, And Josh McDaniels says 373 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: in the media, I don't want him audibling. I want 374 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: him to run the play that I call, right, he 375 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: trots out Josh Jacobs in the fourth preseason game before 376 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: last season, the fourth preseason game is reserved for guys 377 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: who might make the practice squad, who might you know, 378 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: become a third string long snapper type situation. And he's 379 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: running your first round running back into the ground in 380 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game he goes, and then Josh Jacobs 381 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: of course goes and leads the NFL and rushing, so 382 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But that's just stuff that we 383 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: know about, like the things I've heard that reportedly, you know, 384 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: allegedly that Davante Adams has said about him behind closed doors. 385 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Like I can't even say it on the podcast because 386 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to out the people who told me 387 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: these situations. But Davante Adam is one of the classiest 388 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: guys in all of football. That's probably his biggest down 389 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: for He should have demanded a trade by now. But 390 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: he knew immediately that this wasn't the guy for the job. 391 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: So when you see them smoking cigars after that win 392 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday, it had appsbsolutely nothing to do with them 393 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: beating the New York Giants and Danny DeVito at quarterback. 394 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: It was just like ding dong, the witch is dead. 395 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: We finally rid ourselves of that tyrant, that little small 396 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: man Josh McDaniels, and we can actually be ourselves for once. 397 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: They hated him with the passion in Vegas. 398 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: You just wonder how, given how badly Denver went the 399 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: Colts thing, why they hired them in the first place. 400 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like they were going for like 401 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: a big name, all right, Rob quickly a couple NBA 402 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: atoms Before we wrap up, football is back. 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I mean, I thought Lebron's good, 419 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: didn't make any of his threes, had a chase down 420 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: block on Tyler hero that was magnificent. Austin Reeves was 421 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: very good. But when you lose a d like I mean, 422 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: this is listen, man, I'm optimistic for the Lakers. They 423 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: are now three and four. Ad goes down. Is there 424 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: a timetable in his return? 425 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: According to Ad things, he could play as early as Wednesday. 426 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: He thinks it was just like a knocked him out 428 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: of this game situation. Even though he had to get 429 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: subbed out multiple times in a span of six minutes 430 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: because he couldn't move, It was eerily similar to that 431 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: playoff game against Phoenix. I don't know if I remember 432 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: that when they got bounced out and he obviously had 433 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: like a groin injury and he couldn't move, and they 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: put him out there anyways, and he lasted all of 435 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: a minute and a half in that playoff game. I 436 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: don't remember that. 437 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, let's force him back against the Houston Rockets. 438 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: So why not just save him for Friday against Phoenix 439 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: you lose to Orlando and Miami after that exhausting Clippers win, 440 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: which was awesome and rousing, I don't it just doesn't 441 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: make sense to force a d back. I'd actually rest 442 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: Lebron and try to really go for the win. I mean, 443 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: they think might be able to beat Houston without Lebron 444 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: and AD. I don't know. We'll see. In other news, 445 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: James Harden made the long awaited debut for The Clips, 446 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: and the paper Clips went to New York and promptly 447 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: lost with Harden rob I've only seen highlights. I didn't 448 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: watch the game very closely. It was just one of 449 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: those games where, like, I don't know, the Knicks were better, 450 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: Like it was pretty clear that Mitchell Robinson was like 451 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: one of the best play on the court like this 452 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: did not look like the Clippers team from when they 453 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: faced the Lakers last week, and Kawhi was like unconscious. 454 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: It was like just medium games. Paul George, I guess 455 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: light's too bright. An MSG playoff p made an appearance 456 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: two of eleven ten points. What do you think Harden looked. 457 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: He looked like James Harden. He looked a little, you know, 458 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: out of shape, to be quite honest with you, but 459 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: he was making the same kind of passes and hitting 460 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the same kind of shots that we see on in Philadelphia. 461 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: The problem, though, is, and this is something that's been 462 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, well discussed, is that there's only one basketball 463 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: and you go a lot of stretches when you have 464 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and James Harden as your primarily primary ball handlers, 465 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: where Paul George is kind of just standing in the corner, yeah, 466 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: and Kawhi Leonard is kind of just standing at the 467 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: top of the key, you know, or the top of 468 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: the wing. And in those situations, those guys don't always 469 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: get into a g arrythm. And in this situation last night, 470 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Paul George got into zero rhythm. And even though you know, 471 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: statistically Harden and Westbrook had okay games. You know, if 472 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: you're not getting the most out of Paul George and 473 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, it's not really gonna matter either way. 474 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: So a little uneven real quick. The Celtics suffer their 475 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: first l to the Anthony Davis Show, he was magnificent. 476 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: I'm only gonna ask because I'm kind of a jerk. 477 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: Have you been monitoring how Carl Towns does? Like one 478 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: thing I do every time I look at the Timberwolves 479 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: box score, Anthony Edwards and then Carl Town's and Carl 480 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Town's is not having a good start to the season. 481 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: Now Minnesota's four and two. This can mask the stench 482 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: of the Towns. Go Bear duo. Town's always in foul trouble. 483 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I really think if a star 484 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: is going to get moved at the deadline, it's probably 485 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: gonna be Karl Anthony Towns. I just I don't see 486 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: this thing working. By the way, Jason Tatum is still awesome. 487 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: I have him first Team All NBA, one of my 488 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: favorite players. 489 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think if we were to make a bet, 490 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: which maybe we'll do in another pod, is like first 491 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: coach to get fired first star to get fired that 492 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: kind of or start to get traded. I think that 493 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Carl Towns will come off the board relatively quickly. Like 494 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: him and Zach Levine are probably in a race to 495 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: be the first overall pick on all start to get 496 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: traded before the deadline. 497 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: I would take Levine in a heartbeat over Towns heartbeat. 498 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: I think it depends on what your roster looks like. Well, 499 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: either way, I think those guys are vying for it 500 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: to me at least. 501 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, technically you're right. I mean, I like I 502 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: prefer Levine, but yes, you should look at the roster 503 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: makeup and the salaries. And finally, because I'm contractually obligated 504 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: to bring up Victor Wemben Yama, the Spurs lost by 505 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: forty one. What this is like a night off for 506 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: wemby only twenty one minutes? He did really nothing and 507 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: the looks like the Pacers just went off fifty eight 508 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: percent shooting Halibert. How about the Pacers? Remember they were 509 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: our sleeper team four and three start. But I'm rob 510 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm dreaming of a world where wembin Yama sneaks in 511 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 2: to the play in game. Can you imagine remember lastyear's 512 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: playing was Lakers Timberwolves, and it was a thriller. Can 513 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: you imagine like a Wembin Yama Anthony Edwards playing game? 514 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: Anybody don't say, can you can not? 515 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 516 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: No? 517 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 518 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 2: Now? 519 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. I think that that 520 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: one of the team is going to be in it, 521 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: just flat one of the top six teams, but a 522 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Wemban Yama chet Holmgren playing game. I know that Wemby 523 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: is getting all the headlines, but chet Holmgren is having 524 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: a Rookie of the Year type season very quietly, almost 525 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: matchinga is just raw numbers across the board, but doing 526 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: it at a much more efficient rate. So my Oklahoma 527 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: City Thunder look out for chet holme Green. 528 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: So I had three different people send me his behind 529 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: the back pass. Did you see that on the fast break? 530 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, Well, I mean he's been looking 531 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: like point magic out there at seven a gangly seven 532 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: to two or whatever. He is seven to one, Like, 533 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's it's fun. I'm sure there's 534 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people who listen to this rob who 535 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: just like the NFL. They're like, why do you care 536 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: about the NBA? You guys know I love basketball. So 537 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: watching my friend's buddy play against UCLA at Paul and 538 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: I just turned to him. I'm like, this is this 539 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: is like what you dream about, right, like as a kid, 540 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: you're shooting baskets in your driveway. You're playing against UCLA 541 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: and like, I don't know, they got a super young team. 542 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Everybody hit the portal so it's all freshman sophomores. They 543 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: were feisty. I think they covered the spread of thirty one, 544 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: and it's like maybe they win their division like FDU 545 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: and fter YOUU made a run. I think to the 546 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: elite eight like Saint Francis in that FDU conference, and 547 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: it's like, this is just amazing. Like I just I 548 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: love hoops. I don't know, Rob, Rob, you like any 549 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: hoops at all? 550 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Or No? I peaked at was that like age twelve, 551 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: we had an undefeated championship team in my local rec league. Wow, 552 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: I was an All Star, was an MVP of the 553 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: All Star Game. So I was like, Tentacle, are you making? 554 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: Is this real? No? Sw the coach, No, it was. 555 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: It was funny because the year before we flamed out 556 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs, and then my 557 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: dad just couldn't coach anymore because of work schedules. So 558 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: our coach was a woman who ran part of the 559 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: wreck whatever facility, and we went undefeated champions, and our 560 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: entire starting five was on the All Star team, and 561 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: when we were losing in the All Star Game, a 562 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: coach put the entire starting five in so we could 563 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: close it out. In your what's a home MVP? 564 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: Wow? 565 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Is there just. 566 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: No what was this? Just something about hoopsman? Anyways, all right, 567 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: that's too long of a bunch podcast. I'm down in 568 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: the dumps. I'm not looking forward to the herd. Cowhard 569 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: is just gonna make fun of me all morning. It's 570 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough one, folks, but I will 571 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: I will trudge through it. We'll talk to you tomorrow.