1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Minky. Listener discretion is advised. Recently, 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I found myself wandering the dark halls of an abandoned hospital, 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: as one does in my line of work. In this 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: particular moment, I was standing in the basement of said hospital, 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: and it was pitch black. I wasn't quite aware of 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: my surroundings or what was in front of me, but 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I began to hear a tapping sound. Eventually, the tap 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: turned louder, and soon it became a loud banging or crashing. 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Convinced an animal, or worse, an intruder had entered the building, 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: I turned on my flashlight and headed toward the sound. 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Except when I turned the corner where the sound was 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: emanating from, there was nothing there, nothing that could make 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: that sound, and yet it was still happening directly in 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: front of me. I must admit, if I was alone, 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: there's a chance I would have quickly exited the building. 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: But I did have someone with me, and my pride 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: was on the line, so I continued toward the sound. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: When it suddenly stopped with no explanation, we searched high 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and low for anything in that empty space that could 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: have made such a ruck as and we came up empty. 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Little did I know this was a common occurrence in 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: this building. And what I also didn't realize was I 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: was standing right behind the hospital's former morgue. So join me, friends, 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: as we had to Wisconsin and visit the Sheboygan County Asylum. 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm Amy Brunei, and this is haunted road. To fully 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: understand the hauntings, rumors, and confusion regarding the history at 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: the Sheboygan County Asylum, or what was officially known as 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: the Sheboygan County Comprehensive Healthcare Center when it closed, you 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: have to go back to its roots. Sheboygan Asylum refers 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: to three different structures between eighteen seventy six and two 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: thousand two. The Sheboygan County Hospital for the Insane was 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: a former lunatic asylum serving Sheboygan County, Wisconsin. Opened in 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy six in Winowski. It was replaced in eighteen 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: eighty two with a larger facility in Sheboygan, which underwent 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: several expansions before closing in nineteen forty. It was succeeded 37 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: by Sheboygan County Comprehensive health Care Center in Sheboygan Falls, 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: which operated until two thousand two. These three operations are 39 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: regularly confused in research and tragedies. History that occurred in 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the first two incarnations are often times confused with the 41 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: still standing, though not in use, healthcare center in Sheboygan. Regardless, 42 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: the history of each is interesting, so let's go through 43 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: each iteration to fully understand why the Comprehensive Healthcare Center 44 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: came to be and what actually happened within its walls. 45 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Before the original A. Winowski Asylum opened in June eighteen 46 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: seventy six, the chronically insane, as they were called, had 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: previously been housed in the state hospital and the jail. 48 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: In its earliest years, the Sheboygan Asylum was under the 49 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: direction of Glanville Jewett, who had about twenty two people 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: under his care. On February nineteenth, eighteen seventy eight, a 51 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: fire broke out in his facility, killing four of the 52 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: seventeen patients under Jewett's care at the time. An account 53 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: in the Oshkosh, Northwestern States the building was of wood, 54 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: erected by Mr Jewett about two years ago expressly for 55 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the purpose, and situated but a few meters from his residence. 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: There were eighteen inmates at the time, all of whom 57 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: had been locked in their cells for the night as usual, 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: at which time everything was right so far as could 59 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: be seen. At twenty minutes before twelve o'clock, an alarm 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: was raised by Lucretia Toothaker, an old lady, one of 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the incurable insane, brought from Oshkosh last summer. On hearing it, 62 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Mr Jewett arose and it once proceeded to learn the cause. 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Arriving at the building, he opened the door of the 64 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: furnace room in the basement and found it full of 65 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: dense smoke, and at once a bright flame dashed out 66 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: from the ceiling overhead and spread rapidly across the room. 67 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Using buckets of water, people on the scene tried to 68 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: tame the fire and rescue everyone inside. The cells were 69 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: quickly unlocked by Mr Jewett, who, with the aid of 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: two or three others who had arrived, got them out 71 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: with as much haste as possible, many of them having 72 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to be carried out nearly suffocated with smoke. On the 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: cause of the fire, Mr Jewett says there had been 74 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: no fire in the furnace since three o'clock the day before, 75 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and he thinks the fire to have originated from the 76 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: ashes of a pipe laid upon a projection of a 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: beam near the floor overhead, that is again from the 78 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Oshkosh Northwestern Afterwards, survivors were all cared for in Jewett's 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: own house and other buildings in the neighborhood. He proposed 80 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: to erect a new building again as fast as it 81 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: could be done. Unfortunately, he never saw that plan through 82 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: because that April Jewett passed away from injuries sustained in 83 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: the fire. After Mr. Jewett's death, a plan was formed 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: by the county board to move the asylum closer to 85 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: the city of Sheboygan. In eighteen eighty one, the county 86 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: purchased nineteen acres located just west of today's voll Wrath 87 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: Company Grounds, bordered by Superior and Erie Avenues. During construction, 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the patients were kept in neighboring homes. The building contract 89 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: was let and the new building was completed and furnished 90 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: by June one, eighteen eighty two. The committee then employed A. J. 91 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Whiffen and his wife as superintendent and matron, respectively, of 92 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: the institution. On June seventh, the building was opened to 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: forty inmates, being all those kept at Winowski and twenty 94 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: others transferred from the Northern Hospital. When this second iteration 95 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: opened in eighteen eighty two, it was called the County Hospital, 96 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: but became known as the Asylum. It also served as 97 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: a poorhouse the following year. In eighteen eighty three, an 98 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: addition increased the building's capacity from forty to ninety, and 99 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty six twenty acres of additional land were purchased, 100 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and two years later the number of patients increased so 101 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: rapidly that another edition was authorized and built. On December 102 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine, fire once again reared its ugly head and 103 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: claimed the life of the night watchman who discovered it. 104 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: According to reports, the County Insane Asylum was damaged by 105 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: a fire that started in the washroom about one o'clock. 106 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Chester Carver, the night watchman, aged sixty years, was suffocated 107 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: and Superintendent A. J. Whiffen was seriously injured in trying 108 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: to save Carver. Sounds eerily reminiscent of the building before. Meanwhile, 109 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: the asylum campus grew. It didn't take long for the 110 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: news structure to fill. In eighteen twenty more acres were added, 111 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: and thereafter the number of patients continued to increase from 112 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: year to year. In nineteen o five, the County Board 113 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: purchased the Tailor Farm, consisting of two hundred fifty acres, 114 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: together with the buildings on the property, and arranged for 115 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: the addition of more room at the institution. It farmed 116 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: its land to feed and employ the inmates. By nineteen eleven, 117 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: after further expansions and the acquisition of an adjacent farm 118 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: through a bond issue, it stood on three hundred nine 119 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: acres and had a capacity of two hundred twenty five inmates. 120 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: A name that is familiar to even the current building 121 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: entered the picture on March first, nineteen ten. That is 122 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: when the Whiffins stepped back from the asylum and the 123 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: r Key family stepped in. Dr Herman r Key entered 124 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: the role of superintendent and his wife acted as matron 125 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: at the institution. Herman ran the hospital until his death 126 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty. His son, Mr Harold as Happy r 127 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Key was appointed to head the County Mental Institution in 128 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: June of nineteen thirty. Between nineteen twenty five and the 129 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: forty there were discussions about a land swap between the 130 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: asylum and the mission House College in the town of Hermon. 131 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: The large amount of acreage was thought to impeed the 132 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: westward growth of the city. Although initially excited about becoming 133 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: a college town, the ideal lost momentum and then failed. 134 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: About the same time, another blow was dealt to the institution. 135 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: A former resident of the asylum spoke out about insufficient 136 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: food during his stay. The accusations were refuted and proven falls, 137 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: but the facility ended up closing to patients in nineteen forty. 138 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: When the facility closed, a new facility had been built 139 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: at five Corners in the town of Lima, which the 140 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: Archies continued to oversee. Before we get to the new facility, 141 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: there's one more bit of interesting history attached to this one. 142 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: In the spring of nineteen forty two, when things looked 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: especially grim for Allies, it was rumored that Adolf Hitler 144 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: planned an air drop of weapons to his soldiers held 145 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: prisoner at detention camps in England. That very real fear 146 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: led to the United States agreeing to take charge of 147 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: prisoners captured by the Brits. After nineteen forty two, thousands 148 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: of prisoners of war were brought to the United States 149 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: and housed for the duration of World War Two. The 150 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: old abandoned Sheboygan County Asylum had been selected to house 151 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: the POWs. While it could easily accommodate the expected five 152 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: hundred fifty prisoners, the maximum number housed in the three 153 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: story brick building never exceeded four hundred fifty. The prisoners 154 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: were accommodated in the asylum itself. By nineteen forty five, 155 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: there were disastrous labor shortages in the United States, and 156 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: because of its tremendous agricultural needs, Wisconsin would have suffered 157 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: greatly had it not been for the Pow labor program. 158 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: Camps were located close to farm fields that needed working 159 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: or factories in need of a labor force. The POWs 160 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: were not required to work, but boredom and the ability 161 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: to earn money or coupons for the canteen motivated them 162 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to volunteer for almost any job available. Prisoners were paid 163 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: an equivalent of eighty cents per day, not in cash, 164 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: but in canteen coupons, which they could spend for cigarettes, candy, 165 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: and beer. When the war ended in nineteen forty five, 166 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: the POWs were free to leave, but the majority of 167 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: German prisoners continued working in the United States until nineteen Finally, 168 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: the dilapidated structures that were once the Sheboygan County Asylum 169 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: were torn down in the nineteen sixties, and the plot 170 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: has since been developed into residential neighborhoods, the Sheboygan Clinic campus, 171 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: and Pick and Save grocery store. So Pick and Save 172 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: if you're listening, I am happy to come investigate if 173 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: anything weird is going on there. The new hospital, then 174 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: dubbed the Sheboygan County Hospital for the Insane, was built 175 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and opened by nineteen thirty nine. There was a dedication 176 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: ceremony for the new facility held in early October nineteen 177 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: thirty nine. While more than one thousand person's watched, County 178 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Judge F. H. Schlichting Sunday afternoon tapped mortar around the 179 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: cornerstone of the new County Hospital for the Insane, now 180 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: nearing completion in the town of Lima. A copper box 181 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: containing pictures, coins, several issues of the Sheboygan Press, and 182 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: other items was sealed into the cornerstone by mortar wielded 183 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: from Judge Slichtings Trout. The judge addressed the crowd. It 184 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: is a source of great pride for all our citizens 185 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: that we are here today to lay the cornerstone of 186 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: another great institution. This mark is one or more mark 187 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: of progress in the history of this great Sheboygan County. 188 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: This great step forward is being taken to alleviate human suffering. 189 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: He continued. These fine modern buildings which are being erected 190 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: here are further evidence of the progressive, constructive attitude of 191 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: the people of this county. Sheboygan County never retreats. It 192 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: goes steadily forward, discarding the old and taking on the new, 193 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: whenever it is merited and proven to be the benefit 194 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: of its people. This is from the Sheboygan Press. Schlichting explained, 195 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: this is a new era. No longer do we put 196 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: people away in an insane asylum. We now commit those 197 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: afflicted as understanding fellow citizens to hospitals for the treatment 198 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: of mental diseases. No longer is insanity considered an affliction 199 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: about which nothing can be done. Rather, we now consider 200 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: it as a disease, just as is cancer, tuberculosis, or 201 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: any other physical ailment, and amenable to treatment. Right here 202 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: in this hospital we are having such fine facilities for 203 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: this purpose of hydrotherapy units which are recognized as essential 204 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: for treatment of mental diseases, but which are not now 205 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: and never have been in our institution. Full hospital facilities, 206 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: including operating rooms and the like, will be a part 207 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: of this building, and provisions are being made for a 208 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: full time trained nurse. The nineteen forty construction covers over 209 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand square feet assists of tunnels runs underneath it. 210 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: This new facility brought many features to patients, including a 211 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: recreation room, dental office, cafeteria, and courtyard. It was also 212 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: touted that the new building was being constructed so that 213 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: each and every room would have sunlight at some point 214 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: during the day. For almost a decade, between nineteen sixty 215 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: nine and nineteen seventy eight, the facility became an acute 216 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: care service for the mentally ill, and for some of 217 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: that time also offered rehabilitation services for various addictions. After 218 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, county officials discontinued the mentally ill services 219 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: and the facility became a home for the developmentally disabled 220 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: and chronically ill. Between nineteen eighty eight and two thousand two, 221 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: the facility slowly closed down and transferred patients as it went. 222 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: As of two The Sheboygan County Asylum still stands, but 223 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: is now privately owned and mostly closed to the public. 224 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: It's widely alleged that the medical building is haunted, partly 225 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: because it is so often confused with the original asylums. 226 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: But while yes, the health care center did not have 227 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: any fires or German POWs on site, it has seen 228 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: its fair share of death and tragedy. Before I go 229 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: into this, it's important to note that local residents were 230 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: hugely supportive of this facility. It was home to many 231 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: of their loved ones who could not go elsewhere. I 232 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: have interviewed as staff members, and it is widely looked 233 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: at as a positive place with no history of abuse 234 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: or neglect. But the nature of the hospital itself means 235 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: that yes, many people died on site, hundreds of them actually, 236 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: many of natural causes old age or terminal illness. One 237 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: of the rumors that persists is that multiple nurses took 238 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: their own lives in the structure. I was able to 239 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: find record of two staff members who died by suicide 240 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: on site. One was a janitor who died of a 241 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: self inflicted gunshot wound in nineteen sixty five. The other 242 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: was a woman who in nineteen sixty seven suffocated herself 243 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: by putting a plastic bag over her head, and she 244 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: was later found in her bed by co workers. Sadly, 245 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: being a mental health facility, there were also occasional suicides 246 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: within the patient population. In nineteen sixty three, a patient 247 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: hanged herself from a window handle in her room, and 248 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, in full view of other patients 249 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: looking out their windows, a patient jumped from a water 250 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: tower while trying to be talked down by multiple employees. 251 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: The gentleman had been in the care of the institution 252 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: for thirty seven years. Now keep in mind these are 253 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: only the debts I could find record of in newspapers. 254 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: It stands to reason there were many not made public. 255 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: As far as paranormal activity goes, reports are rampant. Visitors 256 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: report a tall entity in the tunnels, They hear footsteps 257 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: in the halls, and multiple shadow figures are seen in 258 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the corridors. Old bangs and slams come from areas where 259 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: there are no doors to slam, and guests report being 260 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: touched or having their hair pold, and it's not uncommon 261 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: to hear screams or talking coming from empty halls and 262 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: rooms as evidence. In the beginning of this episode, I 263 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: can definitely vouch for these slamming phenomenon. To talk about 264 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: the paranormal activity on site and what the future holds 265 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: for the Sheboygan County Asylum, we will be talking to 266 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Craig Nearing. He is the founder of Fox Valley ghost 267 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Hunters and investigates the hospital regularly. He's got some interesting 268 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: insight and some wild experiences to share, so that is 269 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: coming up next. I am sitting here with Craig Nearing, 270 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: who is the founder of Fox Valley ghost Hunters, and 271 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: he is very closely affiliated with the asylum it's health. 272 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: What I have not mentioned yet is the fact that 273 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the asylum is actually featured on season six of Kindred Spirits, 274 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: So depending on when you're listening, it has not aired 275 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: as of this recording, but it is the season six 276 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: finale of Kindred Spirits. So Craig is our client on 277 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: the show, so we got to know each other that way, 278 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: and he's just a wealth of information as far as 279 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: the asylum itself and the activity that goes on there. 280 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: So welcome Craig, Thank you for having me. Of course, 281 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: happy to have you. It's been a few months since 282 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I visited. I don't want to give away too many 283 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: spoilers as far as the episode goes, just in case 284 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: people haven't seen it yet, but I would say that 285 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: our experiences at the Asylum and kind of our outcome there, 286 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: we're very different from what we've seen in the past, 287 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: and I think a large part of that was that 288 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: it was a location that was just so focused on 289 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: healing and fixing and kind of a had of its 290 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: time really when it opened, as far as seeing you know, 291 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: mental health as being something that was treatable and not 292 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: something to just lock someone away for forever. So that 293 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: being said, what got you so closely involved in the 294 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: asylum itself, Well, it was a place that most of 295 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: my paramormal team always wanted to visit or get involved in, 296 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: and it was very hard to get into. The owner 297 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't allow other teams or anybody to ever come out 298 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: and investigate there. And it just so happened that the 299 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: owner knows my brother, and my brother is a really 300 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: good businessman, and he says, anybody that's in the business 301 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: like that, he goes, I'd love to talk to their brother. 302 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: So that was kind of the starting point for giving 303 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: stepping foot into the asylum and being able to investigate there. Yeah. 304 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I do find that some of these relationships with property 305 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: owners and things, it's it's very organic. There's a lot 306 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: of these buildings that we see and we want to 307 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: get in there so badly because we know the history 308 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: and we know rumors of it being haunted. And many 309 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: times it's just about kind of meeting the right person 310 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: or you know, fostering up friendship or something along those 311 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: lines is how it eventually happens. And we did meet 312 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: him and he seemed very open at this point, so 313 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: well done on that. Yeah, thank you. He's an interesting individual, 314 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: because I mean, anybody who purchases a building like that 315 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: has to be an interesting person, I would say, and 316 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: he is. He seems like he's a collector. He's got 317 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of antiques in there. Um, he's renovating certain 318 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: areas of it. He's got very big plans for it, 319 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. But with all that 320 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: going on, do you think that that kind of does 321 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: anything to the activity. I would think so anybody that 322 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: would bring antiques or you know, old items in there, 323 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: even things related to hospitals and asylums and stuff like 324 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: that would definitely have things that could be attached to 325 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: that stuff even coming in. Yeah, and I felt like 326 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: while we you know, we really did investigate quite a 327 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: bit there, and I could have done on an entire 328 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: other episode on just the items themselves, because there are 329 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of historic artifacts in there. But that being said, 330 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: everyone it is under lock and key. That places very 331 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: heavily surveillanced, surveilled, whatever the word would be, and there 332 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: are people on site, so it is tempting. I think 333 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: these big old buildings, I think people assume there's no 334 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: one there, but in this case there are people very 335 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: much there and cameras everywhere, so be aware of that 336 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of just getting into the activity. Aside from even 337 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: all of the items that are there. If you visit 338 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the asylum, what can you expect to experience? Would you say, 339 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Like I tell people, when we don't pay our ghosts, 340 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: they're not on the payroll. We're very respectful to ghosts 341 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: as far as they were once people too, so we 342 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: don't do any provoking. We treat them like you would 343 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: treat a normal human being with respect. But people coming 344 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: into the asylum for tours and events and us in general, 345 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: we've had our hair pulled. I've had things touched me 346 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: on the shoulder, disembodied voices. A lot of times you'll 347 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: hear a little girl that likes to sing in the hallway. 348 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll even hear her humming. Dark shadows that moved 349 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: between the doorways and stuff, especially if you're looking down 350 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: some of the long corridors and always with the patients rooms, 351 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: you can sometimes see the like shadows pop in and out, 352 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: or even see a possibility of a head that pops 353 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: out of a room to speak around the corner. Many 354 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: of our guests I've seen that, Yeah, And I mean 355 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I found in particular kind of that basement area. We 356 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: had some very crazy experiences there, but that was the 357 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: area for me that seemed the most active. It's kind 358 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: of where you go down to where the org once 359 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: wasn't you go around the corner and up this hallway 360 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: to where the chapel is and everything is that kind 361 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: of the norm. Is that usually kind of the most 362 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: active place for people. Yeah, it seems to be a 363 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: lot of the hotspots seem to be in the basement. 364 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: A lot of running and screaming with guests down there too. 365 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Even in the tunnels. It's just you get some really 366 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: cold spots that just like come out of nowhere, and 367 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: it's a warm summer day and you can definitely seem 368 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: like something is definitely around you at the time, and 369 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: it's footsteps down there and a lot of interesting things 370 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: in the basement. This is something I don't really talk 371 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: about that often because it's slightly embarrassing, but you know, 372 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: sometimes when we are doing these kind of investigations in 373 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: larger locations. You know, years ago, when I was on 374 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: the show Ghost Hunters, there were six or seven of 375 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: us at a time setting up equipment, and now it's 376 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: just Adam and me on Kindred Spirits doing the equipment portion, 377 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: which I don't think we really thought out, you know. 378 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: But that being said, I do find, you know, sometimes 379 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I have to venture off on my own to go 380 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: get like a camera or you know, a piece of 381 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: equipment we left, and there was a point where I 382 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: did have to go down into that basement by myself, 383 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: and there's this whole other like tunnel section. There's there's 384 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: many tunnels, and I'm already terrified of tunnels. I hate 385 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: being underground, and so I do remember walking through that 386 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: tunnel at some point alone when I do that, and 387 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: I start feeling anxious or aunt say, or you know, 388 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: I get that kind of feeling like I'm not alone. 389 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: I always whistle because I feel like nothing bad can 390 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: happen if you're whistling, right. But I was whistling through 391 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: that tunnel and I walked through and I was by myself, 392 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: just walking, and I do think this has happened on 393 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: the show as well. But the lights started turning on 394 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: and off and I'm down there all by myself, and 395 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I think if I had not been faced with situation 396 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: is like this many times over the years, Like if 397 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: I was kind of like a new but newbie, I 398 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: probably would have run screaming out of that building. Yeah, 399 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: that lights an issue. It happened to me once too, 400 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: and I talked to the owner bout and he's like, well, 401 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: it's never done that before, so it's weird to happen 402 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: once in the lobby. And then they also happened in 403 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the tunnel where this one light would like flicker and 404 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: it was just a weird the way it flickered, and 405 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't some special bulb or anything. It was a 406 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: normal bulb. But the owner said, yeah, that don't normally happen. Well, 407 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: that's the thing too, is you know, it kind of 408 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: coincided with me feeling like maybe I wasn't alone, which 409 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: that could have just been my own paranoia, but that 410 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: was one of those moments where I was like, jeez, 411 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: if if under normal circumstances, I would probably have just 412 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: like run out of here, but then I would have 413 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: had to answer to Adam for like the rest of 414 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: my life. So so now one of the things that's 415 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: kind of hard when you're researching the asylum is like, 416 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: so you call it the asylum because its original roots 417 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: were the Sheboygan County Asylum. Now it's had like three 418 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: iterations at this point. When it closed, it was the 419 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: Comprehensive Health Care Center, which, as you and I have 420 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: spoken with like not recording that if you leave that 421 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: name kind of up, people think it is actually a 422 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: place that you can take someone who's injured because they 423 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: don't realize that it's closed. But I guess what I'm 424 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: getting at is that going through trying to research was 425 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: very difficult. I remember when we were filming there and 426 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: I was researching, trying to go back through records because 427 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: there are three different versions of basically the same place. 428 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: A lot of that history and lore kind of gets 429 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: crossed over and you know, mistaken for happening in that building. 430 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: You know, things like the German POWs or the fires 431 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Has that ever posed a problem 432 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: during your investigations or when people come in. Do you 433 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: have to kind of correct investigators sometimes on the actual history. Yeah. 434 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of helpers, a lot of them 435 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: are kind of in the darker, all confused about all 436 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: the different things because, like you said, they carry over 437 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: from one asylum to the next and everybody gets confused. 438 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: The whole topic of the peel W's being over at 439 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: our asylum isn't true. They were never were there. They 440 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: were at the other asylum. However, the peel Ws were 441 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: busted over to our asylum to harvest the fields for 442 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: the food that were sometimes used for the people that 443 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: were eating in the asylum. So they're busted over to 444 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: the fields, but they never actually stayed in the asylum 445 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: or lived there, like it says in some of the 446 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: other outputs. Even Wikipedia has so many um wrong, you know, 447 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: things listed for the asylum, including that it's two thousand, 448 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: seven hundred fifty feet when it's actually two d seventy 449 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: square feet, just a lot of indiscripancies. That is interesting 450 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: in the sense that, you know, part of being a 451 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: paranormal investigator, and I do say this a lot, is 452 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: that obviously you can believe in ghosts or you cannot 453 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: believe in ghosts, and that's fine, but it's really important 454 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: to get the history correct, not just from the way 455 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: we do our job and making sure that we're addressing 456 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: the correct people, but for like respect issues, you know, 457 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: you just want to respectfully get things right. And I 458 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: think that we are posed with this problem a lot, 459 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: you know. Like I remember, I was we were investigating 460 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: a theater recently and it was called the Rialto Theater. 461 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you know how many realto theaters there are in 462 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: this country? And so I was trying to research it 463 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: and go through old newspapers and things, and I could 464 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: see how people could very easily kind of get their 465 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: information frost. So I respect how hard that must be 466 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of trying to shuffle through that. But have you 467 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: learned any interesting history or stories about the building that 468 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: is there now that people might not know? Um, A 469 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: lot of the nurses that used to work there come 470 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: through our tours, not a lot of them tell us 471 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: different stories, you know, different suicides that had happened over 472 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: the years. A couple that we have confirmed, one in 473 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: general with the woman named Kim that committed suicide in 474 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: the nurses wing. Um. I believe she had hung herself, 475 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: which is kind of a tragic story, but we did 476 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: find that that one was confirmed. And there was another 477 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: one that had jumped off of a waterteller I think 478 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: it was like a maintenance sky or something, and that 479 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: was confirmed as well. So there's a lot of people 480 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: that come through, like the nurses, have stories, but you 481 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: also have to basically kind of do your history there 482 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: too to make sure that even because every one of 483 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: them has like a different story to what happened. Yeah, 484 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: that's a tough one because I think sometimes you know, 485 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: employees will come in and it's been decades obviously since 486 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: they worked there. But then also they might have not 487 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: directly been associated with something that they're saying happened. It 488 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: might have been something that they even heard through the 489 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: grapevine at the time. And what I found interesting as 490 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: I interviewed, because I interviewed a few former employees when 491 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: we investigated there, and they were all very fond of 492 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: the location. They didn't necessarily have you know, bad memories 493 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: or there were no stories of like abuse or anything 494 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: like that. It was mostly there were some sad stories. 495 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: You know. There were some people that they really desperately 496 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: tried to help and I and it didn't work out 497 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. But I found that interesting. How often 498 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: do you have former employees or even maybe even former 499 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: patients come into the building. Yeah, I'm not sure about 500 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: the patients. Would never actually had anybody say I was 501 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: a patient there. I've seen some a couple online that's 502 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: that they were there for a little while as a patient, 503 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: but we never got into an actual you know interview. 504 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Probably with the nurses coming through last year and the 505 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: year before. We probably had maybe a total of ten 506 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: that have come through in the past two years. And 507 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: have they had any active video while they were there 508 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and wondering if the building remembers them. Yeah, I think 509 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: some of them did. Some of them had an amazing time. 510 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: I think that even been back like two or three 511 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: times since that, and others. I think just love to 512 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: see that the asylum technically, it's still in really good shape. 513 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: The owner is trying to restore a lot of the 514 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: areas back to its original look, and I think just 515 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: having them come in and sees that, you know, and 516 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: and how it was when they were there and how 517 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: it looks now, just something that they'd like to see. 518 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: I think that sometimes when you do restore these locations 519 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: to look the way they were before, that actually causes 520 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: activity or raises the activity levels. And it's nice to 521 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: have the nurses because they definitely know, you know, doing that. 522 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: What what do you think the owner's hope is. Is 523 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: he wanting to open it as a museum or what 524 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: do you think he wants to do with it. He 525 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: had a lot of ideas where everything from like a 526 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: little tiny, not necessary a mall, but they wanted to 527 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: do like a coffee shop in the front section of 528 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: the building where you'd walk in and just with restoring 529 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: the floors, restoring all the hardwood. Upstairs, he wanted to 530 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: turn the second floor where the the owner of the 531 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: hospital their family would stay at the time, you know, 532 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: back when it was forties fifties. He wants to turn 533 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: that into like little condole units or something or something 534 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: where people can come and spend the night while on 535 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: events in town and stuff. It's interesting because when you 536 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: you know you you walk through this hospital and it 537 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: is like just very tiled and big hallways, and then 538 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: you walk through this door and you walk into these 539 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: living quarters that are gorgeous like somebody you know that 540 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: that's where the owner's family lived, and like these beautiful 541 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: hardwood floors. You would never know that you you look 542 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: like I can't even describe it. You literally look like 543 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: you were in a Victorian house or something like. You 544 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: feel that way, but you're in this little section of 545 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: a massive asylum, which I find to be so interesting 546 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: with that's how they did at in the time the 547 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: family lived there. So the asylum ultimately closed in two 548 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: thousand two. And how long have you been investigating it now? 549 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: This is our third year, so we've been there a 550 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: total of three years. And what do you think causes 551 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the most activity? Like when you go in, is there 552 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: anything in particular that you find that you do or 553 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: say that causes things to happen? A lot of times 554 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk to the spirits there on certain floors based 555 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: on what they were like drugs and alcohol, asked them 556 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: if they're like uh in an a a meeting, if 557 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: they're getting the help they needed, Sometimes even props are 558 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: brought in. We've actually had a few of the ghosts, 559 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: even down in the tunnels, say that they liked Papst 560 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: Blue Ribbon beer, so we'll bring them in a beer. 561 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: They liked cigarettes, we'll bring them in cigarettes. And I 562 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: also noticed that one time we tried doing we had 563 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: three girls in one of our always they were singing 564 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: any songs for like Christmas and gospel or inspirational songs. 565 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: They were singing them in the hallways, and it seemed 566 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: like the activity picked up at one they were singing. 567 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: Or we play some old tunes that maybe back in 568 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: the fourties and fifties they like to hear, you seem 569 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: to get more activity, noises, things that tend to come 570 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: out a little bit more. I think music does instigate 571 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: activity a lot, because it's kind of like scent in 572 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: the sense that it just transports you back instantly to 573 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: a time. And we've had great success with that. And 574 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, fun fact, when we're filming, you know, when 575 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: we're investigating not on camera, we can play all the 576 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: music we want, but when we're filming, we have to 577 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: be very careful about what we play because of licensing 578 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: rights and things. But we did play music knowing that 579 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't be able to play it on TV, 580 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure it did get us some results. 581 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: But that's interesting, and it's actually like a very respectful 582 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: way to go about it. Unfortunately, a lot of these 583 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: buildings like this, it's the inkland ation of people to 584 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: go in and start yelling or provoking or making blanket 585 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: assumptions about who they're speaking with and what their mind 586 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: set is. And it's not as I think exciting for 587 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: some people sometimes to think of it as just walking 588 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: in and sitting down and having a conversation, walking in 589 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: like you know, you're meeting someone for the first time. 590 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: But that legitimately is how you get the most activity. 591 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: Like that is how it works the most information. I 592 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: should say, you can go in guns blazing and provoke 593 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: and probably get some pretty extreme activity, but is that 594 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: really how people want to do that. So I'm glad 595 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: that you guys are proponents of being super respectful, especially 596 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: in a place like that. Yeah, it's hard to get 597 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the outside. They don't come 598 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: to our tours, they've never seen us, some of them 599 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: never even heard of us, and then they just get 600 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: that first opinion of us of all, we're being disrespect 601 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: full to the people that were once at the hospital 602 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: there because of their conditions and why they were there, 603 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: and we're not about that. Like I said, we're very 604 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: respectful to the ghosts of that past because there were 605 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: people that were like you and me. They're not evil 606 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: entities or anything dwelling within an asylum. They were once people, 607 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: So we treat them with respect and we don't provoke. 608 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: That's the main thing, absolutely, And I think historically it's 609 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: important that we kind of remember how these places existed 610 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: and functioned, and I think that investigating them and digging 611 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: into the history is a big part of that. And 612 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: you know, if I had someone who spent time in 613 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: one of these locations, like a relative or something, I 614 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to think that their spirit was just there 615 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: in this big, empty building and no one was trying 616 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: to help them or interact with them. So it's comforting 617 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: to me to know that there are people like you 618 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: and your team that go into these places just in 619 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: case there's someone who needs help or someone who needs assistance, 620 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: like if we are right about all this, but that 621 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: someone's going in and respectfully speaking to them. But yeah, 622 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: it is kind of a stigma that a lot of 623 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: us paranormal investigators have to deal with, like this idea 624 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: that we're taking advantage. Now, you guys do do tours, 625 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: but obviously, like we're very respectful tours, you know, So 626 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: do you guys do daytime tours as well as nighttime 627 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: tours or how does that all work out there? Last 628 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: year we started doing historical tours in the day for 629 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: people that wanted to learn the history rather than the paranormal, 630 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of more would I ask us what 631 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: you do a historical tour? So last year we did 632 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: two of them. The scup coming year will probably do 633 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: a couple more, so people can see it during the 634 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: day and get the historical part of it rather than 635 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: just the paranormal part of it. I would recommend doing both, 636 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: just having been there. It's one of those places that 637 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: photographs very very well if you're into that sort of thing, 638 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: Like it's just the lighting is spectacular in there, and 639 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: just the artifacts and it has held together very well. 640 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: Whenever we go into these super old buildings like this, 641 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: it's amazing how fast they just start falling apart when 642 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: no one is there to live in them, you know. 643 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: But this one is in very good shape and being 644 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: there even at like twilight, the lighting and so it's 645 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: it's obviously very spooky, but it is it's beautiful. I 646 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: love the history of it, and I think investigating there 647 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: taught me a lot about the motivation of some of 648 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: these therapists and doctors and nurses. And it was kind 649 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: of one of the first asylums that I investigated that 650 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have a bunch of horror stories coming out 651 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: of it, because it was kind of built in the 652 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: thirties and forties and they really were kind of turning 653 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: a page at that point as to how they treated 654 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: people with mental illness, and it was fascinating to me. Yeah, 655 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: as compared to like Waverly Hills where they had those 656 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: nask the experiments on people. Yes, I mean some of 657 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: the places I've investigated, like trans Alleghany, the things they 658 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: did to people are just horrifying. If it's fair to 659 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: say an asylum can be refreshing, this one was so 660 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about how people can get 661 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: in touch with you, what you guys do there, if 662 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: they want to go on tours, if they want to visit, 663 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: let's get people out there. If they want to see it. Yeah, 664 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: definitely follow us on Fox Belly ghost Unders on Facebook. 665 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: We also have Fox Belly ghost Hunters dot Com. There's 666 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: a page just especially for the Asylument's should Boygan Insane 667 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: Asylum investigations and yeah, I know the names a little misleading, 668 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: but we want to shy people away from visiting the 669 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: local downtown hospitals. So um, that's one of the reasons 670 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: for that. Me and my lead investigator just bought a 671 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: haunted school over in Glenbula, Wisconsin, and we'll be closing 672 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: on that in February and eventually we'll we haven't tours 673 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: there as well in the near future, so a couple 674 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: of different places, and then just following us on Facebook, 675 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: you'll see all the different locations and events that we 676 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: have to offer, including the Bogan Asylum. That's fantastic, So 677 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I'll probably be investigating that school in 678 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, and Adams got to come. Yeah, we 679 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: would love to. So well, it's been really great to 680 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: talk with you. I appreciate you taking the time, and yeah, 681 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: everyone listening. If you can go check out the asylum 682 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: or anything Craig is working on. They are a great 683 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: group and we loved working with them, so thank you 684 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: so much, and hopefully we'll chat again soon about this school. Yes, 685 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: thank you. The Sheboygan County Asylum Hospital, Comprehensive health Care Center, 686 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, is undoubtedly haunted and yes, 687 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: on its own, that is spooky and scary and for 688 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: some fun, but it's also an important reminder of why 689 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: we do our due diligence in finding out the history 690 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: of such places before you walk in and start talking 691 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: to its ghosts. Any empty hospital is going to look 692 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: scary inside and out, but this one had such a 693 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: positive focus and reputation. You're not going to meet the 694 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 1: ghosts of those faced with mal treatment. Rather, you're going 695 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: to perhaps be speaking to someone who had very real 696 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: struggles in life and may still be having them in 697 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: the afterlife. I encourage anyone who investigates there to remember 698 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: that and treat them accordingly, because who knows, you may 699 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: just be doing more good than you realize. I'm Amy Bruney, 700 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: and this was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is a production 701 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minkey. 702 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: The podcast is written and hosted by Amy Bruney, Executive 703 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: producers include Aaron Minky, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. 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